The Ultimate Upgrade (Ep109 GrizzlyNbear Overland)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Winter is here and we are no longer afraid!!!
Cold weather and condensation has always been our worst enemy.
After our recent diesel heater installation we are now toasty warm inside with negative 17 temperatures outside and a huge reduction in condensation.
We also recently added an MSR Dragonfly diesel stove to our inventory. We are no longer reliant on propane gas which has always been a complication to refill as we travel the world.
Diesel Heater - Chinese Diesel Heater installation
Four Wheel Camper
Land Rover Defender 130 with camper
Cooking with Diesel MSR Stove Dragon Fly
Réchaud multi-combustible
Less condensation in our camper with a diesel heater
Does diesel heater helps reducing condensation.
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Join us as we travel the world overland, exploring the cultures and traditions of all the countries we visit.
In our Land Rover Defender camper which is our full time home we will take you rock climbing, hiking and exploring across all the continents on this planet.
Glad you fitted a night heater to keep that poor woman warm. lol, great info and how to fit, only worried that you have air and exhaust together, normally they go opposite directions.keep driving safe you 2.
Easily the best travel blog in the world. Nothing comes close
That's a Big Call. 😀😁☺😍 Thank You.
Truth be told Leigh
Les chauve-souris sont plutôt comme les ours en hiver. Intéressant!
I don't understand almost anything you guys talk about but I love your videos... hahaha... cheers ausies. I'm brazilian old man
So cool to see Korea, I had no idea what to expect, bucket list item. PS, Thank you for the plumbers tip!
I have had a lot of diesel heaters on various boats for cruising in the Pacific NW and Canada. Nothing better than the good, dry heat they put out - 0 condensation. Love all the extras you did to tap the main tank, fill the cook stove and maintain the option to just use when the camper is not on, good work!
I’m planning to build a pop up truck camper in the next few years. I love your idea of having everything run on diesel. Having the diesel filtered as it goes into the main tank, then having the heater siphon off the cleaned fuel and having a tap to fill up your MSR cooking bottles from the same source makes a lot of sense. Great ideas that I’m going to steal! Thanks for sharing!
I live in the Scottish highlands where it can get pretty cold in winter. I fitted a diesel heater to our 110 a couple of years ago.. OH MY GOD! The difference it made.. Put it on in the morning when its -10 and its 30 degrees before you know it. It's very reliable, but it can soot up inside if it's run on low heat for too long or the air input is restricted (it needs a strop down and clean out - but its easy to do) and you probably need to replace the exhaust hose every year or so if it is under the vehicle but it's dead easy to do. I plumbed it into the tank... Greatest mod ever :)
Toujours aussi belles vos vidéos Steph and Leigh. Si vous passez par la Normandie un jour, dites le moi... :-)
Thanks for the great music choice 👌
Superb.
I would advise (on your fuel tap)-only leave the on/off lever on when parked up. It could drain your tank fully if it's knocked to the open position. (possibly think of changing it to a ball lever valve with a metal handle-that can be detached). I make bio-diesel and mine has been knocked and I lost a boat load of diesel without me realising. So I now take the handle off when not in use. Loving the videos- only started watching 3 weeks ago and we are nearly finished them all. Me and hubby in our 50's and we are going to go or a similar set up (not as adventurous tough with places visited=YET)- but you have inspired us so much. :-)
Thank you so much for the advice.
The drain tap system was only temporary.
Later in the video we showed the final installation.
A very small straight stainless steel ball valve with flexible rubber hose protected by the chassis outrigger.
I also have a plug in the end of the rubber hose if the valve that acts as a double isolation 😉
@@leighdearle5965 Good one leigh I like the belt and brace idea I would hate for the tank to drain . I have had a cheap Chinese multi fuel stove they don't like diesel/biodiesel that much so I think I will try a MSR dragon fly keep up the good films and info A++++++++++
I've been using the diesel heater for decades, espar are the brand, but most of them are very similar. If I can give you some advice. Always let the heater shut down completely when you turn it off before cutting the electric to the unit. In the ignition chamber will get massive carbon buildup if you don't let it completely shut down and you'll have to replace every year. Proper shut down and the chamber will last several years. I recently found your channel and really like your work, I think both of you are really nice people :-)
Thank you for your message and advice. 😁
Leight. Perfect job. The thing is I have the same (dry heating kactory system) system and I'quite confident The "fresh" air is to be taken fron inside of the habitat. Thanks to that temp bilans is much better and the machinery is working on lower power consumpsion. Consider this.
This is an option and would definitely provide better efficiency on the heater.
The negative is it creates a lot of condensation.
Taking fresh dry air from outside reduces the condensation by a huge amount.
We tried both ways 😉
The heater is so powerful even with -17C outside we had 20C inside and heater on lowest setting.
last week I discovered your channel and watched about 15 - 20 videos; catching up. I am so pleased you are willing to share your adventures in places around the world very few of us get to see and visit. showing us how generous people are, how caring they can be. In Canada we rarely get to see the parts of the world you are sharing with us because of the American influence. thank you and keep up the great work. You know what they say about Land Rovers, they turn owners into mechanics. I can say that, I am a proud owner of an LR2.
Wow thanks so much for the kind words 😊
We are really happy you enjoy the videos, we are very happy to share our experiences with you.
Can't wait to get to Canada 😊🇨🇦
Another great video! Make sure you take the air from inside the cabin. That heats the air up quicker (not having to heat up cold air from the outside) and avoids pulling in moist air from the outside.
Keep up the great video's!
Hey thanks for the comment.
To avoid condensation our air intake is outside.
We've tried both ways over the years and this method is far better, almost eliminating condensation.
If you circulate the inside air it circulates the moist air created through your breathing and creates more condensation.
Belle installation de chauffage.......... attention à cacher et verrouiller le robinet sur le réservoire principale. ça évite le vol de carburant............. Perso, les voleurs m'ont percé le réservoir juste devant la maison.......... snif. Hâte de voir la suite de vos aventures.
These MSR cookers I awesome, I have one since 1997 and a bottle of white gas lasted us for almost 2.5 weeks cooking 2-3 coffees and one larger meal per day.
We should have more people in the world like you guys.
Love the respect you guys have with all the cultures you pass through. Respect to you.
Thank you for showing me. You two are really nice. Thumbs up!
You just have to like you.
LG, Alfred
We used our two dragon fly stoves for 7 years on the road. Multifuel was awesome, we preferenced unleaded fuel because it was cleaner but we changed based on what we could get at the time. Awesome piece of kit. Now 10 years since we finished our last trip we still regularly use them no issues.
Great to know. Thank you. 😁
Thanx Leigh this is great advice for me. Surely taking that into consideration when I start my build on Boeing...Just love the way you also positioned the heater. You are surely thinking ahead when doing things to GrizzlyNBear. Happy warm sleeping now
Thanks heaps Sean, I was so paranoid when loading Grizzly back onto Bear that it wouldn't fit... 😜
Make sure you get a CO alarm for inside the camper. Would hate to have something go wrong and you guys get sick...or dead.
We have a carbon monoxide, propane and smoke detectors in the camper.
We have had them since we owned the camper 😉
Also a dry powder fire extinguisher in the camper and one in the truck.
As Cheap as the diesel heater is, buying a spare heater to swap out and having all spare parts would allow for quick change out when the heater cokes up with soot and needs major service. They will coke up and quit it is just a matter of when. Clean the 1st unit and test it. Have on board for back up. I changed outa few on Minnesota Semi Trucks and sent the coked up unit to their Fleet shop for cleaning and service. The drivers would pick up the serviced heaters when they got home and again carry as a spare.
Absolutely!
I had already considered buying a second one but we are limited for storage space...
Amazon and ebay deliver so fast to anywhere in the world these days I'll just order another of this one dies 😉
GrizzlyNbear Overland 🦜oh man, the logistics has grown so fast since 2000. Amazing when the delivery guy shows up in the middle of Somewhere with a Duck 🦆 and some Orange sauce. 😋
I'm sure it has been commented but...be careful that the exhaust is not close to plastic or the fuel canister! it gets very hot!! :-)
Awesome
Glad you did go for Chinese Diesel heater. Being happy user myself, I could not disagree. I have 5 kW version being installed in slightly larger but much better insulated cabin and so far all good. These heaters also come with water heating option, so you might consider upgrade later on :)
All the best to Korea!
I run one of these in my defender and its amazing. Nakatenga makes a spacer where you can hide the diesel heater under the cubby box and its a super clean installation. I preach these heaters to everybody because they are the truth forsure!
Another great video stay happy!!😃🏴
Great job Leigh, I have the same unit heating my bungalow. Liked the tape tip, not wanting to sound condescending, here is another tip in exchange, next time with fuels, use yellow or coloured tape, white will degrade over time as its meant for water, but we are talking years..
Yes you are right 😉
If it gets a drip one day I'll use the yellow.
Things were hard to find in the Korean hardware store.
Yellow tape is actually the gas standard thread seal but will work for fuel also 😉
I was going to ask if the diesel heater is good for heating a home as my electric bill for heating my flat is silly and not keeping me warm. Any advice please?
@@sanatandharma4435 you should join the Facebook group Chinese diesel heater owners. There is a lot of great information and you can ask any questions.
I have actually seen many posts about this and I think it's possible for sure.
Some people are heating large garages with these units.
Very important on these units is to let them fully shut down before you remove power as they purge the diesel in them to prevent uncontrolled fires and the gelling problems of cold diesel. Just saw a video today of another RUclipsr that cooked the board by disconnecting power before it was finished.
They are also making a hybrid unit now with a built in liquid heat block so you get hot air and hot fluids out of the same unit so can make hot water at the same time you are heating the space.
Great job installing the heater, I hope you have a Carbon dioxide alarm in the camper. I would also use a bolt in the rubber diesel hose as a plug in case your ball valve gets bumped a leaks out you fuel as you drive. Love your vids, keep up the great work.
We have both of those things thanks for the comment 😉
You guys are having such a fantastic time in beautiful South Korea 🙂 glad you now have a fantastic source of heating, I have used one in my defender 110 for the last three years and it has been a life saver.....thank you for the wonderful footage and thanks again for the time you both put into bring this 🏴
What a great set up on the heater !! Food looks mighty tasty too !!
Make sure the heater exhaust is well away from the air feed for the camper & get a carbon monoxide detector, we have one fitted in our land rover 110. 👍
Great advice and very important.
The exhaust is run through the tub of the truck and a long way from any air intake.
We have carbon monoxide, propane gas and smoke detectors fitted in the camper 😉
The air intake on the bottom of the unit is just for combustion air not heated air. The unit has an air intake on one side and output on the other for cabin air keeping it separate from the combustion side which also reduces the humidity you get off a vent less propane unit.
Loving these "TechTalks"! Such a great way to see the other side of overlanding!
Awesome job my friend.
great stuff and very informative! glad to see you are now both snug as bugs inside the camper, and the spaghetti bolognaise looked very inviting Leigh!
Thank you Jan we certainly are 😊
Have you managed to convince my mum and dad to buy a place in your estate yet...? 😜
@@GrizzlyNbearOverland Not yet but will keep working on it! :)
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰 to a beautiful and loving couple
happy for you guys. you guys are in ridiculous temperatures
👍👍👍 Shit hot !! You two rock. I really really do love watching your videos. I don't say much from time to time but let me tell you both it's probably the best world trip I'm watching, No bull shit !! It's fantastic 👍👍👍
Thank you so much, that comment made our day 😍
I've been following the 2 of you for some time now and it's been great to see all the mods that are taking place. Best wishes from Perth Western Australia.
G'day to beautiful Perth 😉
Thanks for the kind words mate.
Nice installation! Good solution for the cold days and again a very good video👌👌
Nice one guys and looks like a good job done with the diesel heater 👍👍
Great video! Absolutely loving your Korean chapter. So good. Steph your filming skills and creativity are making the videos look so interesting. Such a treat to watch! And Leigh good job on the heater install!))
Cheers mate, really appreciate it.
I need an expert electronics guru such as yourself to give the wiring a once over and make sure I haven't done anything too dodgy 😂
Steph is getting so bloody good now...
When we decided to make this video I thought it would be a tough one and she made it turn out great😉
Good job mate, this wll save your journy👍
Awesome video guys, merci beaucoup
Yeah, I have this diesel heater too. Pretty happy with it, maybe a bit noisy.
We were a bit scared when we first tried it. Be honestly we can't really hear from inside.
..a heater is a necessity in the cold nights, when snuggling up is not enough..great vid and install...
Good video, thanks for sharing 👍
The knowledge involved blows me away. I have no idea how our hot water works etc. I turn a switch ... ahah
My old boss on the rigs used to tell me if there's a day goes by that you don't learn something new then you are not trying hard enough.
I'll always remember that and try my best to keep at it 😉
Hope NZ is ok? Our thoughts are with you and Wayne 😘
@@leighdearle5965 excellent advice, keeps you feeling capacitated. Hehehe opportunity to use verb of the day.
Wayne & his family going through tough time at moment, feels a little dejavu with Nanna. I can see another trip for him to NZ in the next few months.
@@debmcc8854 our thoughts are with him and his family 😘
i love defender, i love both of you. please Be careful guys, covid-19 is there. be safe. cheers!.
Glad the heater is working out for you! I’ve got to do it too. Two other bits about your camper that similar to mine. The exterior water tap and the massive basement drawer. Two features I find so valuable and looks like you do too. Thanks for another great video.
Trop cooool ! J'aime bien les vidéos "techniques" on apprend toujours plein de trucs 😁 pas mal la transition avec les spaghettis bolo !
Du haut niveau ! 🍝 😉 merci pour le message.
you guys are the best at this. there so many channels doing similar things but you guys have a special feel to things. difficult to put in words, i suppose is the love you have for each other and the life you live. you can feel it through the screen. im happy for you. found the channel a couple weeks ago and have been on a marathon since then, I particularly like the ones where you meet locals and fix the car. I am also saving to buy my first defender, i am still very young. keep the love up keep going. Leigh is a legend, always makes me laugh he always has a smile on his face; and Steph, wow, not sure how Leigh would do without you. what a team. a song for you two and your travels: ruclips.net/video/srK1TlIT82c/видео.html .
Such a nice message to read before bed. Thank you so much for your kind words. 🤗 made a big smile on our face. And a lovely song too. Thank you.
Thank, merci
It’s good to be handy
very nice fc from thailand.
Heater best thing we bought. Keep warm this winter.👌
Love your cooking
What's warmer than snuggling with Stephie? A diesel heater. What's more fun to snuggle with? Stephie. Just sayin'..... ps: LOVE your adventures, can do spirit, and DOING it.
Nice instalment 👌👍💝
I have a webasto just for my James baroud rooftent on my series 2A. Coldest I've slept is -20degC. In Himalayas.
Had to open a few windows :-D
Very, very good addition if you're going somewhere high too.
You have to fit an altitude compensation module for above 8000ft tho. 👍
Every man does not notice the moment his wife becomes a boss and eventually adapts! 😅
It seems to be an international understanding between men 😂
If you go into the advanced settings, you can change the lower limit to 0.8 Hz. I always use that in my van (which is quite small). There are other things to adjust as well, I don't remember right now. Maybe max/min fan speed as well.
Awesome video was looking at getting a heater like that for my rig . Was very informative thanks . The rock climbing looked fun with your friends . Loved that sign there at the end , Land rovers just drive normal . Made me laugh awesome . Cheers from Steve stott in sutherlin Oregon u.s.a.
Thanks so much Steve 😉
Super MacGyver !
thank you special beauty detail video on your travel around world as beauty to watching every time
have safety traveling and good health to young pair
Leigh "McGyver".., Overhaulin' mode.. Aussie style. That is a hell of plumbing advise. I've never heard somebody say "Diesel" so many times jajajajaja. Totally agree. I hope you are doing good with "The Virus". Greetings from the other side of the world.
Fantastic videos loving the content keep them coming please be safe
Something to consider down the road with your fuel tank drain, if you're still concerned about breaking it, turn-up ninety degrees, then turn ninety degrees again to the horizontal, then install your valve.
This means you won't be able to completely drain-out the fuel tank from the valve, but on the other hand, even if the valve breaks or somehow opens, you won't drain *all* of your fuel by accident.
Thanks for the advice, the initial drain was only a temporary installation.
Later in the video we show the final installation.
A very small straight valve protected by the chassis outrigger with flexible rubber hose.
Very small chance of it breaking off now.
Well done - Ces trés bien
Ooooh Leigh, now I'll go and eat something :)
Bon appetite my friend 😉
comme d'hab. super vos vidéo et très différentes des formats habituels sur RUclips
ne changez rien
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fred
Merci Fred pour ton retour. Ca fait toujours plaisir.
14:50 the little girl is crying, "dad come down now! im saying come down now!" so cute
She was so cute 😍😍😍
Her dad did great for his first time rock climbing! 😊
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Just a heads up you should buy a MSR parts kit because the diesel will burn dirty and you’ll have to clean it more often than if you were burning white gas.
Thanks, good advice.
The stove came with spare parts and cleaning kit 😊
Now I know how to cook spaghetti :)
Nice, well done! I'm sure you know this but be careful to secure that tap on the secondary tank. It would be a shame if it gets open somehow while being off road and you could loose precious fuel, especially out back. I think of that immediately as I saw you poor from it. Take care and safe travel. I enjoy your adventure, thank you!
I remove the tap after each time I fill up 😉
Also the brass valve and initial installation was only temporary.
Later in the video you can see the final installation of a very small straight stainless steel valve with flexible rubber hose to minimise risk of breaking the line when offroad.
Hi Guys, have put Korea on our Bucket List, have noticed that you have commented in several episodes that you do not use your installed Hot Water System because of the gas consumption ect, I have an Australian developed HWS (Duetto) 10 Litre that runs on 12/240 volt. I have a dedicated 140 amp AGM battery and Cetek model 250, DC2DC/mppt charger, this system maintains hot water while driving and when I have good solar charging conditions. When plugged in to shore power works like any other HWS, cost 340 Aust $ available online and dead easy to install, not sure if you have a DC2DC charger but there are many available. I am sure you could sell your existing HWS and fit the electric one in the same space then Steph could have hot showers.
Hello
Very good idea to add Korea to the list mate 😉
Thanks heaps for that info, really appreciate it.
I have also seen that the Chinese diesel heaters now come with a water heating option?
So it's exactly the same unit with 2 extra outlets. A flow and return water line.
We actually didn't plan to replace the LPG hot water unit after we get rid of it as we've never really used it even when we had access to easy gas bottle refills.
In the warmer weather we enjoy cold showers and in the winter we just heat a little bit of water and have a sponge bath or visit the local public baths 🛀😉
Amazing work :)
Epic editing skillz 🤘🏻
Awesome love it!!!
hello guys, spaghetti bolognese doesn't exist, it's a dish for tourists, spaghetti with ragu and ok, minced meat, onion carrot celery, oil or butter salt pepper and cook for at least 3 hours. with mushrooms better garlic .. good trip, available x other requests !!
Ha ha we live in a camping car and we did our grocery shopping in a small village in Korea...
Not exactly famous for pasta dishes.
We make do with what we have access to 😉
Finally👍👍👍 I was wondering when you guys would install a diesel heater!!!??? It didn't look too cosy in freezing conditions through Russia/Mongolia... Good job👍
Yes . Why. Why we didn't do it earlier. Well that's why we share that video. Hopefully plenty of people can be cosy too.
We have a wabatso in our sprinter van. Keeps us warm on toasty on a cold winters night. Enjoy!
Have you installed muffler for your heater? In my 110 i have Eberspacher and mullfer from webasto, since I've installed it, it's almost 100% quiet.
Direct diesel feed directly from tank is good idea, but check where you have it installed, in my defender it's installed in way, that it will never drain tank empty and leaves about 1/5 diesel always in the tank.
Also, maybe you should make one episode just with easy cooking recipies and tips :)
We do have the muffler on the exhaust.
We can't hear anything with the unit outside and the exhaust discharging under the truck 😊
I am amazed you went this long without a diesel heater. Propane is just such a bad option for Overlanding, especially for heating inside.
Belle installation. good job. vous n'avez pas peur de vous faire voler du carburant avec des robinets de purge sous le véhicule? Vous me direz, moi ils m'ont percé le réservoir pour voler .......... alors autant qu'ils se servent sans destruction. pffff!
I forgot to say, if that heater doesn't last. Espar makes one that also heats the engine coolant while it heats the truck. I live in Colorado and go to northern Canada and Alaska all winter. Even in -50 fahrenheit and the truck has sat days, I'll start the heater and 2 hours later the truck starts like it's warm out.
I'm building my third 1 I recommend you take the air from the camper and put it back in not polare from outside in. It will triple the efficiency. And also kill all humidity and moisture and condensation
We have tried both ways and actually circulating the inside air created so much more condensation as you circulate the moist inside air created from breathing.
Since taking fresh air from outside we've almost eliminated the condensation issues that we've had over 3 years of full time living in the camper 😉
The heater is so powerful even when it was -17 degrees C outside and the heater was on the lowest setting it was still too hot inside.
We had to have a window open 🔥😊
Heater install and cooking segment does it get any better? Nice work mate. Hey, stay safe won’t you?
Thank s Paul ! Safe always. 😉
10/10
Cuisiner avec un réchaud à pétrole ne laisse t'il pas un goût chelou de pétrole ?
Quand je vois Leigh cuisiner je me pose constamment cette question.
Je suis vos expériences et conseils, parce que nous allons aussi faire comme vous.
Vous êtes si cool
Hey folks! Nice job and channel here, love your vids! Quick health question: Where are you at the moment and are you affected by the border closings around China?
I am in the process of building an overland camper and I’m very interested in your ProPex Propane heater vs your new diesel heater. I have seen so many people complaining about their diesel heaters getting a carbon build up and stopping working until they completely take them apart and clean them. If memory serves correct it has something to do with running them so low and not getting a complete combustion in the combustion chamber. I had decided to go with the ProPex because of the clean burning propane but after seeing your condensation issues I am questioning everything again. My first question would be; If the unit is an indirect heat source (the air heated by the propane never enters the vehicle) only the indirect air from outside or recirculated air from the living space is heated and enters the living space, so where is the extra moisture coming from? I would seem to be the same system, one using diesel and the other using propane, for that matter you could do the same thing using a wood fire and never get smoke from the wood fire in the living space. I hope I am explaining my question clearly. Thank you both for the amazing videos!!!
Leigh l can advice you a other upgrade to cook also with diesel with a closed glass plate and under it a diesel heater no water or pollution in your camper from Webasto or Wallas even Wallas has also an oven combination Our camper has no gas everything on diesel only above 4500m not so good working but same as your new heater
The Wallas XC duo is my dream, I've been thinking about it for a few years 😉
Is it not too hot cooking inside with the Wallas in summer as I know it's also a heating unit?
Leigh Dearle when you have the standard cooker is whiteout heating The heating is under the glass plate It gave less heat inside because no open fire Wallas cooker is designed for salingboats with less space and you use no oxygen from inside more save then gass heater with open fire and no gas’s bottles But this is my advice
I’ll be getting that exact unit very soon for my overland Defender. there is a Facebook group dedicated to those with tons of info. I’ll invite you to the group. They are very well regarded. Did you get a 5k or 3k unit? most recommend getting a smaller unit and running at harder to prevent coaking, versus a larger unit.
I've been a member of that Facebook group for a long time before I bought the heater 😉
It's a wealth of information, the RUclips videos by John McK are even better.
We got the 5kW unit but it's too powerful, if I got another I'd definitely go with the 2kW.
The unit we have has a shut down cycle where even if it's on the lowest setting it ramps up to maximum for a few minutes before switching off to clear out the build up.
@@leighdearle5965 if you need to improve the control of your Diesel heater a fellow Aussie has made a controller called afterburner worth looking into.
Really enjoy following your adventures 👍
@@macca545 awesome thanks a lot I'll have a look into that 😉
NO NO Don't Damage the Threads as he done use LockTite mastergasket on the Threads covers Fule Petrol. Gas .Diesel .Ps BSP Fittings are Tapered Male Threads so they Dam Near Seal Themselves But use a Sealer on Them to make sure not Plumers Tape OK.....