I own the Aviron machine and am so glad I picked this one over any others! The costumer service with Aviron is also something to seriously brag about along with their fb group!! Nothing better!!
I’ve owned the Aviron for about a year and have put over 500K meters on it. I started out on a Concept 2, but what I love about this rower is the variety of programs and other features. There is so much variety on top of RUclips integration... it is impossible to get bored. The customer service is impeccable. The Aviron community is positive, supportive, and motivating. I love that we can row virtually with each other. Love the ability to fold the Aviron. Easy to fold and move. Love that the content creators listen to the community and build in requests from the community into programs - again speaking to the never-ending variety of this rower. Love the seat. Only issue is shorter handle. Minor for me since I don’t have wide shoulders. Love that the handle rolls. Aviron all the way!
I have an Ergatta, and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. The games are great and I work out way harder/longer on it than other rowers. It's beautiful too obviously.
When I started thinking about rowing I was clueless from which machine I should purchase to even basic form.Thanks to all your knowledge and enthusiasm 4 months later and i’m 30 lbs down (I also changed my diet) and finally noticing real changes in my body and how I overall feel. You make fitness entertaining! Thank you!
Just got my Aviron on the weekend and I love it! I've been on it every day. It has lots of different ways to work out so my whole family is enjoying it :)
I'm a huge fan of more high-end rowers in the market. Rowing is hands down the most efficient workout. My family owns an Aviron and we love it. Nothing I've seen beats its extensive library of content: video games, live races and competition, strength programs, etc. it even has RUclips for when I just want to have a relaxed row. It is also the least expensive option.
Is part 2 going to be available any time soon? I'm leaning towards the Ergatta because of the game style training options, but would love to hear what you think of the other rowers as well. Thanks!
I'm liking the Hydrow. I'm in week 3 of it, and I finally figured out in the last couple days how to really push hard off with my legs to lower that split time. I'm now getting a lower split time, with lower strokes per minute on a breathe or sweat workout, vs before when I was doing drive workouts.
Awesome. Can’t wait for part 2. I have my finger on the buy button for the Aviron primarily because of the design features that assist with form that you mentioned in a separate video a few months ago. Would like to know more about your thoughts on the rowing content.
@@joimurray9798 www.waterrower.com/us/shop/design-upgrades/wider-17-handle-upgrade.html It's in the upgrade section of their shop, not the accessories (since that's where I initially looked).
Ok I am fairly new to rowing. I used a C2 in crossfit some and a water rower when I went to Orange Theory. I did enjoy rowing when I did it so now I am looking at rowers since I was an idiot and bought a trendy Peloton when I hate to ride a bike...although its programming was motivating enough to get me to use it 15 times or so in the past year that I owned it. It's now a nice ornament in my bedroom. With that being said, I am selling my Peloton and have decided to replace it with a rowing machine since it is a total body workout unlike the Peloton...the C2 is too loud for my liking and I am 49 so the likelihood of me becoming a professional or competition rower is miniscule. So....I have a rotator cuff issue in my left shoulder, bad knees, and low back pain (yeah gymnastics, cheer and kickboxing have demolished me) which of these rowers would you choose for your mom...assuming you like your mom and are not trying to torture her? I do like the sound of the water rower but I am open to your opinion. Would you help an old lady out?!
awesome keep it up, cant wait for round 2. thought i would share a lil advice. i was going to buy the ergatta but found that if i bought the WaterRower and then the ergatta upgrade package separately i would save $500 putting the combo at around $1700 after taxes which left me some room for upgrades... don don don!! i bought the A1 WaterRower's mono rail and seat so that my feet wernt so close. i had to do a lil modification, but i love wood working so yah! in total i spent $2,300ish. have fun yall
I only use the WaterRower at physical therapy, so I literally have no idea what I'm talking about, and I'm only 5'11 and 150 lbs, but the WaterRower has some or the worst ergonomics, even for me. I often only have two fingers on the handlebar at a time and my already tight hips are borderline fighting me with the foot plate, both width and height.
Thanks for the awesome video! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Lit Strength Machine. I keep getting their Ins ads recently and they seem pretty light. And I like their all in one strength training function
Thanks for this great comparison ! I think it misses the Technogym Skillrow to be complete on "high end" rowing machines :) One thing though, I do not get why people need widely separate footrests and large handles since you would definitely have your feet close in a rowing boat and the handles... well, I'd say your hands would be close and even touching most of the stroke.. I guess indoor rowing is to be separated from actual rowing
I honestly think they need to start making wider footplates for boats, too. Most people using rowing machines are using it for weight loss and most people who are rowing on the water do not need to lose weight haha
When is part 2 coming out? Will you also be reviewing Technogym Skillrow. Sounds like it has great feel and the benefit of no required monthly subscription to be usable.
Im trying to decide between the Aviron and hydrow. My only issue is moving this machine back and forth. Will it be better to keep them in the same spot? I usually move my budget rower back and forth from the living room and storage room. My guess that wouldn’t be possible with these machines?
Looking forward to part 2🙏. Looking at buying Rower soon and watched a bazillion videos of yours, all excellent! Not a big gamer, but not adverse to it either. Love do much about Hydrow but not that you can't really row and adjust resistance without subscription and can't use other apps on their screen. Aviron seems great, but no instructor led classes but can look up youtube classes on it. Didn't know if you could do ifit via their screen??? Also considering Concept 2👍. I'm not competitive but worried where Hydrow and Aviron are going in future. I like a lot with all of them! Any suggestions 🤔
Looking to buy a rowing machine for the home gym. Already have a proform treadmill with ifit so quite like the idea of having an ifit compatible rowing machine too. However, I have only ever used c2 rowers in the gym (very good). Are the proform 750r, r10 or any of the Nordic track range as good as the C2?
Concept 2 or Water Rower. Those are the only two rowers I think are worth the money. The others look good but don't perform. And their apps are not as robust. Concept 2 is the standard for all of the indoor rowing championships around the world. So that has to tell you something.
I think there main nuance to this depends on why you're looking at buying a rowing machine. If you want to become an ELITE rower and want a very specific program, then the C2 is the way to go. If you want to use rowing as a method of attaining health and fitness, the approachability and interactivity of something like the Hydrow might be a better option. It's a bit like CrossFit. If you wanted to become an elite CrossFit games athlete, then you'll probably need to be on a set program tracking very specific workouts. If you want to just become a better athlete and develop overall fitness, then signing up for a CrossFit box and going to group classes wouldn't be a bad idea (assuming CrossFit does what it says it does).
I agree with Concept 2, but I would argue that the Ergatta upgrade for WaterRower takes it to the next level. Many people are looking for a more engaging experience than simply staring at a metrics monitor and I think these machines help to fill that niche!
I need your advice which rower will keep me more interested in rowing? I like the iFit classes but I am not comfortable buying the NordicTrack Rower as there are so many negative reviews on the warranty and customer service.
It's similar to a rower, but not really a rowing machine. I haven't seen any negatives on it, but it's not like any of these others, which are roughly identical rowing motions.
Hey Austin, old video, but hope you can help. I was dead set on getting the Ergatta until this video about the seat as well as the return angle. Are you able to install the seat backwards or is there a different seat that can be purchased? Would that help significantly? I’m definitely going to replace the handle bar as well. The look of the Ergatta and the gaming platform is what sold me, but if it promotes bad posture, I’m not so sure anymore. Would love your advice on the seat if possible and thanks for the video!
i just don't see any of these machines justifying the difference in price between them and a concept2. i guess if you really need the video games for motivation? when i'm rowing hard i get pretty locked in on my splits and i dunno i have a hard time focusing on much else.
I'm overweight looking into losing some weight and I'm interested into getting the Aviron, do you know if the Tough Series is worth the extra money? The weight capacity is not an issue but since i have never owned a rowing machine or done much rowing I don't know if it's worth the extra. Im just looking for low impact fun exercise and this seems to check those boxes. Thanks!
@@trainingtall use it 3 days a week, couldn't be happier. Thank you for reviewing it so those who don't have one can get a great idea as to what it's all about.
I just think it's insanity to pay over 2 grand for a machine and then be stuck with their super expensive subscription as well. Makes no sense to me at all. I'll stick to my concept2.
Let me ask you something of pire curiousity because i m not short I m 6'2 -6'3 so does rowing help you with the height? Imagine kid at 10 y.o who start rowing and after 2 years (12 y.o.) is taller compared if not rowing. People will say every sport makes good overall health yeah but my specific questions is. Rowing as the basketball is good for height aport or not?
I own the Aviron machine and am so glad I picked this one over any others! The costumer service with Aviron is also something to seriously brag about along with their fb group!! Nothing better!!
Yeah they are really great! And it's an awesome machine!
I’ve owned the Aviron for about a year and have put over 500K meters on it. I started out on a Concept 2, but what I love about this rower is the variety of programs and other features. There is so much variety on top of RUclips integration... it is impossible to get bored. The customer service is impeccable. The Aviron community is positive, supportive, and motivating. I love that we can row virtually with each other. Love the ability to fold the Aviron. Easy to fold and move. Love that the content creators listen to the community and build in requests from the community into programs - again speaking to the never-ending variety of this rower. Love the seat. Only issue is shorter handle. Minor for me since I don’t have wide shoulders. Love that the handle rolls. Aviron all the way!
I have an Ergatta, and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. The games are great and I work out way harder/longer on it than other rowers. It's beautiful too obviously.
Literally just waiting for part 2 in order to choose which one I'm gonna buy. I'd like to support you if you get any kickbacks with a promotion link!
He got signed to Aviron if that sways you.
When I started thinking about rowing I was clueless from which machine I should purchase to even basic form.Thanks to all your knowledge and enthusiasm 4 months later and i’m 30 lbs down (I also changed my diet) and finally noticing real changes in my body and how I overall feel. You make fitness entertaining! Thank you!
Which one did you go with?
I’m between the Ergatta and Aviron …. Can’t wait for the part 2 on the features!
Me too! Torn between the same two!
Just got my Aviron on the weekend and I love it! I've been on it every day. It has lots of different ways to work out so my whole family is enjoying it :)
SO glad you like it!!
I'm a huge fan of more high-end rowers in the market. Rowing is hands down the most efficient workout. My family owns an Aviron and we love it. Nothing I've seen beats its extensive library of content: video games, live races and competition, strength programs, etc. it even has RUclips for when I just want to have a relaxed row. It is also the least expensive option.
It really is awesome! SO glad you like it!!
How do they compare to the C2
Thanks for this comment… makes me lean to the Aviron with the RUclips comment!
That concept 2 swoosh sound effect - nailed it 👌🏼😆 Thanks for another great video!
Haha thank you! Have had plenty of strokes on it!!
Is part 2 going to be available any time soon? I'm leaning towards the Ergatta because of the game style training options, but would love to hear what you think of the other rowers as well. Thanks!
I'm liking the Hydrow. I'm in week 3 of it, and I finally figured out in the last couple days how to really push hard off with my legs to lower that split time. I'm now getting a lower split time, with lower strokes per minute on a breathe or sweat workout, vs before when I was doing drive workouts.
NICE! Glad things are clicking for you. You'd do great with my ROW-20 program!
Awesome. Can’t wait for part 2. I have my finger on the buy button for the Aviron primarily because of the design features that assist with form that you mentioned in a separate video a few months ago. Would like to know more about your thoughts on the rowing content.
Ditto.
Ditto ditto!
This was a fantastic video comparison, thanks!!
PS: The funny, infomercial style faces and re-enactments are HILARIOUS!
OMG thank you haha! I tried! :)
@@trainingtall you didn't just try, you SUCCEEDED! :)
I have the Ergatta and did get the wider handle from WaterRower. I love it!
GOOD CALL!!
I looked for the wider handle on WR website and couldn’t find it...
@@joimurray9798 www.waterrower.com/us/shop/design-upgrades/wider-17-handle-upgrade.html
It's in the upgrade section of their shop, not the accessories (since that's where I initially looked).
Ok I am fairly new to rowing. I used a C2 in crossfit some and a water rower when I went to Orange Theory. I did enjoy rowing when I did it so now I am looking at rowers since I was an idiot and bought a trendy Peloton when I hate to ride a bike...although its programming was motivating enough to get me to use it 15 times or so in the past year that I owned it. It's now a nice ornament in my bedroom. With that being said, I am selling my Peloton and have decided to replace it with a rowing machine since it is a total body workout unlike the Peloton...the C2 is too loud for my liking and I am 49 so the likelihood of me becoming a professional or competition rower is miniscule. So....I have a rotator cuff issue in my left shoulder, bad knees, and low back pain (yeah gymnastics, cheer and kickboxing have demolished me) which of these rowers would you choose for your mom...assuming you like your mom and are not trying to torture her? I do like the sound of the water rower but I am open to your opinion. Would you help an old lady out?!
Did you get one of these? Or are you holding out for the Peloton Row?
Anxiously awaiting part 2!!!!
Is there gonna be part two talking about the features?
I love my Ergatta!
I'm so glad!!!
I love those shorts. They look great and comfortable.
Thank you!! Love them too!
awesome keep it up, cant wait for round 2. thought i would share a lil advice. i was going to buy the ergatta but found that if i bought the WaterRower and then the ergatta upgrade package separately i would save $500 putting the combo at around $1700 after taxes which left me some room for upgrades... don don don!! i bought the A1 WaterRower's mono rail and seat so that my feet wernt so close. i had to do a lil modification, but i love wood working so yah! in total i spent $2,300ish. have fun yall
I love that you mixed and matched to make the rower the best it could be for you!
What did the extra $600 go for? Wood modifications or did you get other upgrades you would recommend?
A1/gx monorail assembly $150
A1 rail y-bracket $10
A1 home hirise adapter kit $200
A1/gx home (4 wheel) seat assembly $50
A1/gx home/ studio seat cushion $35
WaterRower starter kit $145
Plus tax
After im done with build ill post a picture so keep watching training tall
NICE! Love that!!!
I'm looking at the Aviron and Ergatta. Which one would be the best option for beginners?
Looking forward to part 2!
I only use the WaterRower at physical therapy, so I literally have no idea what I'm talking about, and I'm only 5'11 and 150 lbs, but the WaterRower has some or the worst ergonomics, even for me. I often only have two fingers on the handlebar at a time and my already tight hips are borderline fighting me with the foot plate, both width and height.
Wish you could get an Aviron seat for the Concept 2. Seat is the feature I like least about my Concept 2.
You're right, I find the Aviron seat very comfy!
Can you do the "best" water rowing machine without a subscription?
Great review. Thank you
Picked up the Hydrow because of yours and Garage Gym Reviews video on it. I love it so much, and it was worth the money.
LOVE the Hydrow!!!
Thanks for the awesome video! I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Lit Strength Machine. I keep getting their Ins ads recently and they seem pretty light. And I like their all in one strength training function
I have a water rower, not the stupid expensive ones but quite nice, it's great and perfect resistance! OHM.....
What's the clicking noise on hydro ?
These sound effects are next level lol 😂
Thanks for this great comparison ! I think it misses the Technogym Skillrow to be complete on "high end" rowing machines :)
One thing though, I do not get why people need widely separate footrests and large handles since you would definitely have your feet close in a rowing boat and the handles... well, I'd say your hands would be close and even touching most of the stroke.. I guess indoor rowing is to be separated from actual rowing
I honestly think they need to start making wider footplates for boats, too. Most people using rowing machines are using it for weight loss and most people who are rowing on the water do not need to lose weight haha
@@trainingtall it's all about flexibility ahah. By the way, any thoughts on the Technogym skillrow?
When is part 2 coming out? Will you also be reviewing Technogym Skillrow. Sounds like it has great feel and the benefit of no required monthly subscription to be usable.
Waiting for part 2 :)
What happened to part 2?
What you think about the LITmethod rower. I don't need stats just a hit station but want to see a real rower review
Would love to see you do a dynamic rower comparison.
I’m down to the Aviron and Ergatta. If you are forced to pick one which one would you select?
I am waiting for your part 2 to make decision 🤣
Where's Part 2???
I have independently flipped around WaterRower seat as well . Otherwise it is super uncomfortable.
Where is the part 2 video? Can someone link it please?
This is like if Jim Carey’s the mask had a baby with a 90s Mountain Dew commercial and it grew up
Where is part 2? I can’t find it..?
Im trying to decide between the Aviron and hydrow. My only issue is moving this machine back and forth. Will it be better to keep them in the same spot? I usually move my budget rower back and forth from the living room and storage room. My guess that wouldn’t be possible with these machines?
Have you ever reviewed combination push/row machines like the Power10 and the CrossRow?
Looking forward to part 2🙏. Looking at buying Rower soon and watched a bazillion videos of yours, all excellent! Not a big gamer, but not adverse to it either. Love do much about Hydrow but not that you can't really row and adjust resistance without subscription and can't use other apps on their screen. Aviron seems great, but no instructor led classes but can look up youtube classes on it. Didn't know if you could do ifit via their screen??? Also considering Concept 2👍. I'm not competitive but worried where Hydrow and Aviron are going in future. I like a lot with all of them! Any suggestions 🤔
I have the WaterRower cuz I found someone selling it local on Ebay for $500
Is part 2 ever coming out?
Looking to buy a rowing machine for the home gym. Already have a proform treadmill with ifit so quite like the idea of having an ifit compatible rowing machine too. However, I have only ever used c2 rowers in the gym (very good).
Are the proform 750r, r10 or any of the Nordic track range as good as the C2?
I`m renting a rowing machine that really looks like this Aviron, howerver it`s called Protheus Vantage W8. I`m enjoying it so far.
Interesting! Glad you like it!
Flat out which one for you
Concept 2 or Water Rower. Those are the only two rowers I think are worth the money. The others look good but don't perform. And their apps are not as robust. Concept 2 is the standard for all of the indoor rowing championships around the world. So that has to tell you something.
I think there main nuance to this depends on why you're looking at buying a rowing machine. If you want to become an ELITE rower and want a very specific program, then the C2 is the way to go. If you want to use rowing as a method of attaining health and fitness, the approachability and interactivity of something like the Hydrow might be a better option. It's a bit like CrossFit. If you wanted to become an elite CrossFit games athlete, then you'll probably need to be on a set program tracking very specific workouts. If you want to just become a better athlete and develop overall fitness, then signing up for a CrossFit box and going to group classes wouldn't be a bad idea (assuming CrossFit does what it says it does).
I agree with Concept 2, but I would argue that the Ergatta upgrade for WaterRower takes it to the next level. Many people are looking for a more engaging experience than simply staring at a metrics monitor and I think these machines help to fill that niche!
I was offered $500 for 24 hours for being a nurse on the Hydro and I think I would train better with live coaches so I may go with that.
Short shorts! 😍
Haha yessss!
I need your advice which rower will keep me more interested in rowing? I like the iFit classes but I am not comfortable buying the NordicTrack Rower as there are so many negative reviews on the warranty and customer service.
Have you heard about exr app? It could give sort of Ergatta gamification to other rowers. Any plans to review it?
Yes! Need to really check it out!!
Did I miss the release of Part 2??
I think you oughta review the Teeter Power 10 Rower.
It's similar to a rower, but not really a rowing machine. I haven't seen any negatives on it, but it's not like any of these others, which are roughly identical rowing motions.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but could you pan up and zoom so I can pay attention
Where is part 2???
Which one is the most fun?!?
I’d definitely purchase a Hydrow if it didn’t have a screen.
aviron or echelon?
PM3
Hey Austin, old video, but hope you can help. I was dead set on getting the Ergatta until this video about the seat as well as the return angle. Are you able to install the seat backwards or is there a different seat that can be purchased? Would that help significantly? I’m definitely going to replace the handle bar as well. The look of the Ergatta and the gaming platform is what sold me, but if it promotes bad posture, I’m not so sure anymore. Would love your advice on the seat if possible and thanks for the video!
Yes: ruclips.net/video/hyG-DITCz8o/видео.html
I have tried different rowers but for me Concept 2 all day long
Can't go wrong!
Any word on part 2?
i just don't see any of these machines justifying the difference in price between them and a concept2. i guess if you really need the video games for motivation?
when i'm rowing hard i get pretty locked in on my splits and i dunno i have a hard time focusing on much else.
Part 2 never came out. 😂
I'm overweight looking into losing some weight and I'm interested into getting the Aviron, do you know if the Tough Series is worth the extra money? The weight capacity is not an issue but since i have never owned a rowing machine or done much rowing I don't know if it's worth the extra. Im just looking for low impact fun exercise and this seems to check those boxes. Thanks!
I just noticed that the Though Series doesn't fold up, that would be a deal breaker for me, so I guess this answers my question :-)
None of the above. C2 remains no1.
C2 will always be an amazing machine!!
No concept 2
i'm thinking the ergatta would be almost perfect for me: quiet, game-style progression. but with the foot placement my balls would get squished
Does anyone have an opinion on what the best rower is if I don’t want to pay for a subscription to use the rowers features? Thank you
Concept 2
A V I R O N
It's great!!
@@trainingtall use it 3 days a week, couldn't be happier. Thank you for reviewing it so those who don't have one can get a great idea as to what it's all about.
I like to pay for my machine once and avoid any subscriptions. I use WaterRower with extra Bluetooth S4 Comm and free android apps
So part 2 never happened...😏
I just think it's insanity to pay over 2 grand for a machine and then be stuck with their super expensive subscription as well. Makes no sense to me at all. I'll stick to my concept2.
Aviron you don't have to do the subscription
Let me ask you something of pire curiousity because i m not short I m 6'2 -6'3 so does rowing help you with the height? Imagine kid at 10 y.o who start rowing and after 2 years (12 y.o.) is taller compared if not rowing. People will say every sport makes good overall health yeah but my specific questions is. Rowing as the basketball is good for height aport or not?
His shorts are 🔥 🥵
Huehue
Erg go woooosh
Aviron looks cheap and gimmicky
Biased
Matrix THE QUIET all the way.
Can't beat the quietness of it for sure!