The link you provided is to Steven Hann's youtube chanel called Archery Supplies. He owns Archery Supplies, a archey shop in Australia. His website is www.archeryshop.com.au He has nothing to do with Lancaster Archery - an archey shop located in Lancaster Pennsylvania USA. Please fix that in the description. The lever bows are a niche product. They always were. They excel at bow fishing, they are not that good for hunting, 3D and target. John Paul Morris the son of Johnny Morris bought Oneida a few years ago. Johny Morris owns Bass Pro Shops (huge retailer for everything hunting, fishing, camping). They improved on the designs of CPOneida and came up with The Kestrel and Phoenix bows. The majority of the sales for these tipe of lever bows are for bowfishing. The RPM Nitro is also advertised as a bowfishing bow. Because that's what it is. Bowfishing in the US is HUGE. The lever bows are marketed for the thing they excel at - bowfishing. When you run a business you need to consider many variables. ROI is one of them.
You are absoulty right. I was a dumb ass, Archery Supplies. As far as the marketing goes. I understand leading with your strongest foot, but as far as I can see there is no attempt to advertise as anything else. I want them to do well but I can see them disappearing again
I can't see the issue with hunting with a lever bow. But in the UK bow hunting is not allowed so it's not something I can test. I just wish they advertised on more than just a bow fishing front
@@Lost_Hwasal Hello, my previous comment was based on my experience shooting an Oneida AeroForce ... What an improvement. There is no comparison. I've had a chance to shoot an Oneida Phoenix. I stand corrected, the Oneida PHOENIX bow shoots great. It should be a great bow for fishing , hunting and even 3D. I want to buy one. It's that good.
its funny. I mailed Oneida about some information and said I was interested in buying a bow. They never replied. A month later I send them the same email again but I also send an email to RPM Bowfishing asking the same information. I got a reply within an hour of RPM. Because of that I bought the RPM Nitro instead of an Oneida. Every time I emailed RPM I got a reply within hours. Their customer service is great. I received my custom made Nitro within 3 weeks and it shoots amazing. 2 months later and I still have no reply from Oneida. Glad I bought the RPM Nitro.
I too was primarily a traditional archer, got 4-5 wood bows, but I bought a Kestrel from the US about 2-3 years ago, as this was before Merlin started selling them. I have to agree, the Kestrel is now my go to bow and I’ve shot it ever since. It’s just lovely. The Arrow connection didn’t hurt either. I’ve currently got a RPM Striker on the way as the left hand Nitro’s are not available until next month. If it’s nice to shoot when it arrives I am planning on getting a customised Nitro too. You can never have too many bows 😀
Like yourself the moment I saw The Arrow with the Oneida, it got me interested into Archery. Since then I've joined a club, began shooting etc etc. When talking to other members about the Oneida series of bows there appears to be a bit of a stigma about them because they're a "hybrid" in design and aimed at bow fishing. How does your Phoenix handle/shoot if you're shooting longer distances? (50 - 70 Metres as an example) I have my eye on on a Kestrel. I've seen them at Merlin and the shop assistant was almost trying to put me off them. However the desire to have one is there. As for the RPM Nitro looking on eBay after shipping costs it's similar price to buy an Oneida direct from Merlin.
It's not too bad for long distance. With no sights I'm still happy with 50/60 meters. Defiantly need work but that's more me than anything. I ordered from Merlin, had to wait over a month for them to get it shipped- but that's more the company than Merlin. The stigma is an odd one. Maybe jealousy 😂
They certainly look more appealing. I don't like the design of traditional compounds but the Oneida's look fantastic. I've not seen the Phoenix up close but in Merlin they had the Ospray and Kestrel on show. Whenever I've been there I've been glued to them or I've had to stay in the range to avoid the temptation. But it's nice knowing there are people in the UK shooting them. Though I'm trying to restrain myself until I have reached a higher classification and skill level before I make the £900+ plunge into buying one. Any advise for shooting and general maintenance on them would be greatly appreciated. As I do see myself getting one eventually.
In this video I linked to a maintenance video from Archery Supplies that's worth a watch. But all I've done is wax the string. I've heard a couple of horror stories but so far I've nothing but good things. So doooooo it. Buuuuuuy it😁
I have watched the Phoenix rebuild video, it was useful. I've not heard of any problems with these bows. Oneida aren't really that helpful with details unless it's about Bow fishing or Sales. As for buying it... I'm trying to resist til next open season and potentially sales around Christmas.
You could wait.... But then you've got that extra time to get used to the bow.... Your right with Oneida's feed back though. They really aren't good at customer service. It's kinda why I think the RPM will over take them but that's just speculation
@Samuel Moore How do you find shooting the Oneida bows as a recurve and thus not like a compound with a trigger? And do you / can you shoot the arrows off the shelf with an Oneida? Or do you use some form of a rest. Would you be willing to do a video on this? Regards.
@@darrenboocker I could do a video if I still had the bow, but shooting it like a recurve felt smooth, easy and never had an issue. But you will need an arrow rest. I used the Timber doodle
And what is the difference between the Phoenix and Osprey? Based on appearance, it seems the Phoenix has a few more bells and whistles for the shooting as a compound, and the Osprey doesn't meaning its better suited to be shot like a recurve - is that fair to say? Looking forward to you next video on it.
@@samuelmoore8611 Oh sorry, wrote my reply before reading this - thanks for that. Appreciated it. Did you move it on out of falling out of love with it?
@darrenboocker the biggest difference is the arrow stoppers. Helps the bow live longer and drops the risk of problems. The Phoenix is the upgrade in everyway- but they are both fantastic
The phoenix being American built makes it pricey. The phoenix has esc limbs instead of wood outboards. The phoenix has a cut past center riser the nitro is center shot. Limb pocket designs better on the oneida as well. Now. I do agree alot with you on basically everything. Refreshing to here someone like minded.
Samuel i do have an Phoenix as well and i love it too. You and your passion talking about it were one reason that i bought the bow finally in April and it was great , thank you for that and your videos ! By the way the guy in customes here in Germany war really interested in the box when they did inspect it and i payed the customs tax :o) he was a bow shooter as well . I agree and reall hope the tradition company will not suffer in the future and can continue. The where so long a outsider with no real competition for the bow lover like us. Have a good one ….Rg Bernd
Oneida's biggest issue has always been it's lack of marketing. they just need to hire a proper marketing director but refuse to do so. It's so sad really.
I am soo with you about Oneida... have the Osprey and love to shoot it, but not looking forward to the moment something will happen ... no support round here in Austria :(
Is it legal to stump shoot in uk? Uk law on archery seems a bit unknown, Even local police not sure 🤔 I would like to stump shoot but no private land available, 😞
mark maffey as long as you have permission from the land owner it's fine. When it comes to public land if you wanna be really safe, ask the local council for permission
I was thinking the same thing about arrow... there was no reason given to change it. Just one episode it was different. Which is fine but kinda takes us off guard as viewers. Checked out the nitro... why is it only $500? I want to see oneida succeed as well... hope they figure everything out.
I can only assume because it's a Chinese make- but that's just a guess. There are a lot of Chinese copies of various bows much much cheaper than the original. Going through the Nitro website I'm really impressed with what they offer.
@@samuelmoore8611 It is cheaper coz it is outsourced from china. Oneida is waaay outpriced. I have Nitro now and it is awesome mechanical piece of art. period
I managed to get my hands on one briefly a few weeks ago. Can't fault it. I still want Oneida to step up their game but... RPM are a credible substitute
Oneida suck. I also sent them few mails and trough facebook. They never reply to me. In the other hand RPM replayed within hours. I bought Nitro MAG from LeverActionArchery France. Mr Richard was and is extremely helpful and friendly to solve all eventual problems regarding bow and setup. He is also fitting better high quality galvanised airplane steel cables on every Nitro he sell. He machining all possible adapters to fit equipment on Nitro. He can powdercoat, anodise and water film transfer to customise every Nitro to your need. Spare parts are relatively cheap. Nitro is the way to go. It is a bloody rocket launcher and not a bow :) Cheers lever action lovers Shoot straight
Ughhhh. So much to say. So much to comment on and counter. While I agree with you to a fairly high degree, it's very so much more complicated than you realize. I recommend learning a bit more about the company and their history. You can start by watching my guy Dustin's video on his channel called "The History of Oneida Eagle Bows". It's the most informative and comprehensive source of information on lever bows on RUclips. By the way, you are aware that RPM actually pulled some pretty shady shit with Oneida right? Like they're using a bunch of their designs and patents and to this day still have yet to pay them a single cent. RPM currently still only makes a single type of cam (Nitro cam and Nitro XX cam; they look somewhat aesthetically different but they are literally functionally identical), and that cam design is a line for line carbon copy of the Oneida "Medium" type K-Cam (Oneida also makes a "Short" K-Cam, which is precisely 0.250"/6.35mm shorter in overall length than the "Medium"). Stack the RPM cam and Oneida cam on top of one another and they line up perfectly. The only difference between them is the milling pattern for the ends of the axles and the shape used for can alignment (Oneida uses a broached 'star' on the axles that's almost a knurl basically, while RPM uses a milled hex shape), and a bit of extra milling on the ends of the RPM cams in order to achieve some skeletonization cutouts for some weight reduction - making them a bit faster actually as long as your bow geometry is correct. Beyond these aesthetic alterations, RPM basically didn't bother to develop their own cam whatsoever, a majorly lazy and boring move in my opinion. I mean I get why they did it, but still it's pretty lame. Oh, and the Nitro cams and Nitro XX cams differ in shape/size of their respective aformentioned skeletonization/weight reduction cutouts. It's barely noticeable but they are in fact different. Oh yeah, and RPM must have stopped paying attention somewhere for a bit in their replication of the venerable K-Cam, because the draw modules they ended up providing for their cams are all damn kinds of screwy... They don't provide the results their supposed to and the letoff is all fucked up. Frankly it's even more odd that they decided to copy the K-Cam profile so exactly because the geometry of their platform isn't even the same as the Oneida. In both instances the cables are slung in two fairly different places. Unlike the Oneida Black Eagle Platforn (the design that all "modern" quad cam lever bows are based on) which sees the yoke cables fed through the middle of the hinges, RPM has their their cables slung up over some limb mounted saddle draw stops... This changes the absolutely everything about the draw curve and overall bow geometry... So why not develop a new cam in accordance with this alteration? Idk, seems silly to me. That said, RPMs are pretty nice setups as long as you IMMEDIATELY swap out all your cables for some custom aftermarket equivalents... RPM factory cables are complete and utter hot trash. By the way, and forgive me if I'm just being a bit pedantic at this point... You kept mentioning how Oneida only focuses on bowfishing and that RPM is going to beat them out due to a lack of diversity in market-share. While I agree whole heartedly that Oneida's marketing campaigns (if you can even call them that) and possibilities for future expansion and/or industry innovation in general certainly leave quite a bit to be desired, I'm gonna have to disagree with your premise and also be the one to say that this is actually not just a matter of subjectivity and opinion. Sorry man, but quite frankly you're just incorrect here lol. However there's a couple reasons for this so let me explain as quickly and succinctly as possible (you're holding up night time my target fondling right now actually lol). Although firstly, you shouod come join all of us over in the "Lever Lovers" Facebook group if you're so dissatisfied with the Oneida page. There, you'll find far more information and resources. Once you do that, then join the "Oneida Bow Hunters" group. It's a smaller splinter group founded by a few of us in the community who felt like attempting some 'aggressive expansion' in a more official communtiy approved capacity. Not to mention the people constantly asking the mods, admins, and community leaders if there was ever gonna be a lever bow group dedicated exclusively to Oneida only, so eventually we made it a reality. We just got it going a couple months ago, but it's already at a few thousand members and is now the second largest "Lever" group... However over in "Lovers", we're the largest lever bow group on the platform and officially recognized by Oneida, GCA/Area5150, Monster Bows, etc. Trust me, you'll love it. I'm extremely active in the group and I'm sure you'll see me around if you join. Shoot me a friend request and I'll open a whole new world for ya (my first name is Jake, last name starts with a "K". On Facebook, my displayed middle name is actually a nickname, and it begins with a "C". My profile pic contains both myself and 'Dr. Carson Beckett' from the series "Stargate Atlantis", if you're familiar. So now you can't miss me!) I'll introduce you to some of the big names within the community, see if we can't get you a nice little archery/lever bow network started. ANYWAY... So the thing is there's a reason for why all you saw was bowfishing stuff on the Oneida social media page. The primary reason for this is simply the fact that Oneida lever bows have more or less been used almost exclusively by anglers for the last 25 years. They just never grew too popular with bowhunters and stuff due to their niche design proclivities, and simply due to the fact that lever bows just haven't been able to keep up with modern compound bows in producing the performance numbers most compound archers have become accustomed to. They've remained extremely popular with bowfishers though, due to their unmatched smooth draw curve and capabiltiy to be tuned essentially on-the-go. Not to mention the fact that they can be drawn using a finger technique without concern of catastrophic failure should the user torque the string a bit. The simple fact is that Oneida knows who their core demographic is, and they're gonna be marketing to them before they market to anyone else. This is part of the problem; they basically have been relying far too much on repeat business and collectors for the better part of the last decade, so they haven't been working towards trying to wrangle any new customers. What's especially baffling about this is the fact they haven't done much of anything to keep the already existing fans on-board with the brand, and haven't changed the model line-up at all since 2014 I believe. Bear in mind their model line-up consists of not but TWO models with somewhat limited option, the Osprey and the Phoenix. But at any rate, I'm getting off topic. Point is that Oneida USED to actually give a shit and try to appeal to the rest of the archery market at one time... Back in the early 2000's when they released the Stealth Eagle, that blew people's friggin minds! Not only was it a radical new idea/design for the platform, but it was marketed almost exclusively to bow hunters. Specifically, bowhunters who might want to take their lever bow out west to take down an Elk or some shit, or journey up to Alaska and bag themselves a Grizzly Bear. To thos day it remains an either absolutely adored or utterly abhored model, and one of the only Oneidas to be sold standard with 60#/80# power limbs (actually one of the only ones to have such limbs period, come to think of it), and the absolute fastest shooting Oneida model to have ever been produced. It's got a bit of a cult following honestly lol. Now fast forward a bit, and Oneida appealed to their bowhunting clientele once again with the release of the Kestrel series, another one of my personal favorites. What was great about the Kestrel is that not only was it aimed directly at hunters, but turned out to be a great all-rounder to make its way to the line-up, much like it's older cousin the Black Eagle. Fast forwatd a bit more, and Oneida appealed to their bowhunting fans for one last time... Back in 2017 with the release of the Phoenix. That thing was built entirely with the hunter in mind, and it was intended to be the greatest, nicest hunting bow they ever made. While I may not be a huge fan of the Phoenix riser myself, I definitely feel like they achieved that goal.... Now the Nitro... I actually don't have much to say about RPM, the makers of the Nitro, the Striker, and the Nitro/Striker XX. However I do have something to say in regards to your talkng about their overtaking Oneida due to Oneida's seemingly singular focus on angling rather than the archery market as a whole... Are you aware of the actual FULL name of the company that designed the Nitro, usually just referred to as RPM (they don't even make any of their products actually, those are all manufactured/produced overseas in China)? They're actually literally called "RPM Bowfishing, LLC." 😆😂🤣. Go poke around their website sometime man and you'll understand that they definitely have a pretty specific intended market in mind for their products... Almost everything they do is related to or intended for bowfishing. They even make reels and shit too. The website is RPMBowfishing.com lol. Anyway, I hope to see you in L.L real soon! Can't wait to meet ya.
Lever bows are mediocre for everything except bowfishing nowadays, they used to be better but normal compounds have far exceeded them as hunting and target bows. Oneida is marketing for the only thing they are still the best at.
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The link you provided is to Steven Hann's youtube chanel called Archery Supplies. He owns Archery Supplies, a archey shop in Australia. His website is www.archeryshop.com.au He has nothing to do with Lancaster Archery - an archey shop located in Lancaster Pennsylvania USA.
Please fix that in the description.
The lever bows are a niche product. They always were. They excel at bow fishing, they are not that good for hunting, 3D and target.
John Paul Morris the son of Johnny Morris bought Oneida a few years ago. Johny Morris owns Bass Pro Shops (huge retailer for everything hunting, fishing, camping). They improved on the designs of CPOneida and came up with The Kestrel and Phoenix bows.
The majority of the sales for these tipe of lever bows are for bowfishing. The RPM Nitro is also advertised as a bowfishing bow. Because that's what it is. Bowfishing in the US is HUGE.
The lever bows are marketed for the thing they excel at - bowfishing. When you run a business you need to consider many variables. ROI is one of them.
You are absoulty right. I was a dumb ass, Archery Supplies.
As far as the marketing goes. I understand leading with your strongest foot, but as far as I can see there is no attempt to advertise as anything else. I want them to do well but I can see them disappearing again
Interesting. No good for hunting or 3d. Funny as ive been using them for that successfully for over 10 years.
Could you explain why lever bows suck for hunting? Ive seen people take deer with them.
I can't see the issue with hunting with a lever bow. But in the UK bow hunting is not allowed so it's not something I can test. I just wish they advertised on more than just a bow fishing front
@@Lost_Hwasal Hello, my previous comment was based on my experience shooting an Oneida AeroForce ... What an improvement. There is no comparison.
I've had a chance to shoot an Oneida Phoenix. I stand corrected, the Oneida PHOENIX bow shoots great. It should be a great bow for fishing , hunting and even 3D. I want to buy one. It's that good.
its funny. I mailed Oneida about some information and said I was interested in buying a bow. They never replied. A month later I send them the same email again but I also send an email to RPM Bowfishing asking the same information. I got a reply within an hour of RPM. Because of that I bought the RPM Nitro instead of an Oneida. Every time I emailed RPM I got a reply within hours. Their customer service is great. I received my custom made Nitro within 3 weeks and it shoots amazing.
2 months later and I still have no reply from Oneida. Glad I bought the RPM Nitro.
Same with me and i also have Nitro MAG and this is one hell of a rocket launcher :)
I too was primarily a traditional archer, got 4-5 wood bows, but I bought a Kestrel from the US about 2-3 years ago, as this was before Merlin started selling them. I have to agree, the Kestrel is now my go to bow and I’ve shot it ever since. It’s just lovely. The Arrow connection didn’t hurt either.
I’ve currently got a RPM Striker on the way as the left hand Nitro’s are not available until next month. If it’s nice to shoot when it arrives I am planning on getting a customised Nitro too. You can never have too many bows 😀
neophyl I agree complelty, if anything you should be looking for more bows :) let me know what you think of your RPM when it turns up
Like yourself the moment I saw The Arrow with the Oneida, it got me interested into Archery. Since then I've joined a club, began shooting etc etc.
When talking to other members about the Oneida series of bows there appears to be a bit of a stigma about them because they're a "hybrid" in design and aimed at bow fishing.
How does your Phoenix handle/shoot if you're shooting longer distances? (50 - 70 Metres as an example) I have my eye on on a Kestrel. I've seen them at Merlin and the shop assistant was almost trying to put me off them.
However the desire to have one is there. As for the RPM Nitro looking on eBay after shipping costs it's similar price to buy an Oneida direct from Merlin.
It's not too bad for long distance. With no sights I'm still happy with 50/60 meters. Defiantly need work but that's more me than anything. I ordered from Merlin, had to wait over a month for them to get it shipped- but that's more the company than Merlin.
The stigma is an odd one. Maybe jealousy 😂
They certainly look more appealing. I don't like the design of traditional compounds but the Oneida's look fantastic. I've not seen the Phoenix up close but in Merlin they had the Ospray and Kestrel on show. Whenever I've been there I've been glued to them or I've had to stay in the range to avoid the temptation.
But it's nice knowing there are people in the UK shooting them. Though I'm trying to restrain myself until I have reached a higher classification and skill level before I make the £900+ plunge into buying one.
Any advise for shooting and general maintenance on them would be greatly appreciated. As I do see myself getting one eventually.
In this video I linked to a maintenance video from Archery Supplies that's worth a watch. But all I've done is wax the string. I've heard a couple of horror stories but so far I've nothing but good things.
So doooooo it. Buuuuuuy it😁
I have watched the Phoenix rebuild video, it was useful. I've not heard of any problems with these bows. Oneida aren't really that helpful with details unless it's about Bow fishing or Sales. As for buying it... I'm trying to resist til next open season and potentially sales around Christmas.
You could wait.... But then you've got that extra time to get used to the bow....
Your right with Oneida's feed back though. They really aren't good at customer service. It's kinda why I think the RPM will over take them but that's just speculation
@Samuel Moore How do you find shooting the Oneida bows as a recurve and thus not like a compound with a trigger? And do you / can you shoot the arrows off the shelf with an Oneida? Or do you use some form of a rest. Would you be willing to do a video on this? Regards.
@@darrenboocker I could do a video if I still had the bow, but shooting it like a recurve felt smooth, easy and never had an issue. But you will need an arrow rest. I used the Timber doodle
And what is the difference between the Phoenix and Osprey? Based on appearance, it seems the Phoenix has a few more bells and whistles for the shooting as a compound, and the Osprey doesn't meaning its better suited to be shot like a recurve - is that fair to say? Looking forward to you next video on it.
@@samuelmoore8611 Oh sorry, wrote my reply before reading this - thanks for that. Appreciated it. Did you move it on out of falling out of love with it?
@darrenboocker the biggest difference is the arrow stoppers. Helps the bow live longer and drops the risk of problems. The Phoenix is the upgrade in everyway- but they are both fantastic
The phoenix being American built makes it pricey. The phoenix has esc limbs instead of wood outboards. The phoenix has a cut past center riser the nitro is center shot. Limb pocket designs better on the oneida as well.
Now. I do agree alot with you on basically everything. Refreshing to here someone like minded.
Samuel i do have an Phoenix as well and i love it too. You and your passion talking about it were one reason that i bought the bow finally in April and it was great , thank you for that and your videos !
By the way the guy in customes here in Germany war really interested in the box when they did inspect it and i payed the customs tax :o) he was a bow shooter as well .
I agree and reall hope the tradition company will not suffer in the future and can continue. The where so long a outsider with no real competition for the bow lover like us.
Have a good one ….Rg Bernd
I'm happy I could help. They are special bows and I'm happy for more people to shoot them :)
how much in total cost? did you buy it from ebay?
This cost £1557 plus postage from Merlin archery. The price is still the same. I honestly don't remember the cost of postage anymore
I really don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers keep up the great work
FreshTurkey323 thank you, I appreciate it
No problem man
Sam I had problems with the first bow ordered, after some discussion they took it back and gave each new bow
I’m going to buy one really soon. My max draw length is 27.5. Should I get the small or medium
Medium. the let off on these are very different to normal compound bows. a little under draw is always better than over draw
I would swim away from a country where you cannot bow hunt.
Great review thanks!
Oneida's biggest issue has always been it's lack of marketing. they just need to hire a proper marketing director but refuse to do so. It's so sad really.
I am soo with you about Oneida... have the Osprey and love to shoot it, but not looking forward to the moment something will happen ... no support round here in Austria :(
hello friend the bow when did you buy it with what did it get to you? with what accessories?
Hi, I bought this about 2 years ago. I bought with the case and the arrow rest.
Is it legal to stump shoot in uk? Uk law on archery seems a bit unknown, Even local police not sure 🤔
I would like to stump shoot but no private land available, 😞
mark maffey as long as you have permission from the land owner it's fine. When it comes to public land if you wanna be really safe, ask the local council for permission
Tim Wells is using an Oneida, Bass Pro wants to get back into hunting.
I was thinking the same thing about arrow... there was no reason given to change it. Just one episode it was different. Which is fine but kinda takes us off guard as viewers.
Checked out the nitro... why is it only $500?
I want to see oneida succeed as well... hope they figure everything out.
I can only assume because it's a Chinese make- but that's just a guess. There are a lot of Chinese copies of various bows much much cheaper than the original. Going through the Nitro website I'm really impressed with what they offer.
@@samuelmoore8611 It is cheaper coz it is outsourced from china. Oneida is waaay outpriced. I have Nitro now and it is awesome mechanical piece of art. period
the country of Robin Hood doesnt allow bowhunting?
what a pitty!!
Great Bow
Have u shot an rpm?
I managed to get my hands on one briefly a few weeks ago. Can't fault it. I still want Oneida to step up their game but... RPM are a credible substitute
Oneida suck. I also sent them few mails and trough facebook. They never reply to me. In the other hand RPM replayed within hours.
I bought Nitro MAG from LeverActionArchery France. Mr Richard was and is extremely helpful and friendly to solve all eventual problems regarding bow and setup. He is also fitting better high quality galvanised airplane steel cables on every Nitro he sell.
He machining all possible adapters to fit equipment on Nitro. He can powdercoat, anodise and water film transfer to customise every Nitro to your need. Spare parts are relatively cheap.
Nitro is the way to go. It is a bloody rocket launcher and not a bow :)
Cheers lever action lovers
Shoot straight
I’ve sent numerous mails to them and they never answered any of them either.! Never buying another one. They were good but not anymore..
Ughhhh. So much to say. So much to comment on and counter. While I agree with you to a fairly high degree, it's very so much more complicated than you realize. I recommend learning a bit more about the company and their history. You can start by watching my guy Dustin's video on his channel called "The History of Oneida Eagle Bows". It's the most informative and comprehensive source of information on lever bows on RUclips. By the way, you are aware that RPM actually pulled some pretty shady shit with Oneida right? Like they're using a bunch of their designs and patents and to this day still have yet to pay them a single cent. RPM currently still only makes a single type of cam (Nitro cam and Nitro XX cam; they look somewhat aesthetically different but they are literally functionally identical), and that cam design is a line for line carbon copy of the Oneida "Medium" type K-Cam (Oneida also makes a "Short" K-Cam, which is precisely 0.250"/6.35mm shorter in overall length than the "Medium"). Stack the RPM cam and Oneida cam on top of one another and they line up perfectly. The only difference between them is the milling pattern for the ends of the axles and the shape used for can alignment (Oneida uses a broached 'star' on the axles that's almost a knurl basically, while RPM uses a milled hex shape), and a bit of extra milling on the ends of the RPM cams in order to achieve some skeletonization cutouts for some weight reduction - making them a bit faster actually as long as your bow geometry is correct. Beyond these aesthetic alterations, RPM basically didn't bother to develop their own cam whatsoever, a majorly lazy and boring move in my opinion. I mean I get why they did it, but still it's pretty lame. Oh, and the Nitro cams and Nitro XX cams differ in shape/size of their respective aformentioned skeletonization/weight reduction cutouts. It's barely noticeable but they are in fact different. Oh yeah, and RPM must have stopped paying attention somewhere for a bit in their replication of the venerable K-Cam, because the draw modules they ended up providing for their cams are all damn kinds of screwy... They don't provide the results their supposed to and the letoff is all fucked up. Frankly it's even more odd that they decided to copy the K-Cam profile so exactly because the geometry of their platform isn't even the same as the Oneida. In both instances the cables are slung in two fairly different places. Unlike the Oneida Black Eagle Platforn (the design that all "modern" quad cam lever bows are based on) which sees the yoke cables fed through the middle of the hinges, RPM has their their cables slung up over some limb mounted saddle draw stops... This changes the absolutely everything about the draw curve and overall bow geometry... So why not develop a new cam in accordance with this alteration? Idk, seems silly to me. That said, RPMs are pretty nice setups as long as you IMMEDIATELY swap out all your cables for some custom aftermarket equivalents... RPM factory cables are complete and utter hot trash.
By the way, and forgive me if I'm just being a bit pedantic at this point... You kept mentioning how Oneida only focuses on bowfishing and that RPM is going to beat them out due to a lack of diversity in market-share. While I agree whole heartedly that Oneida's marketing campaigns (if you can even call them that) and possibilities for future expansion and/or industry innovation in general certainly leave quite a bit to be desired, I'm gonna have to disagree with your premise and also be the one to say that this is actually not just a matter of subjectivity and opinion. Sorry man, but quite frankly you're just incorrect here lol. However there's a couple reasons for this so let me explain as quickly and succinctly as possible (you're holding up night time my target fondling right now actually lol). Although firstly, you shouod come join all of us over in the "Lever Lovers" Facebook group if you're so dissatisfied with the Oneida page. There, you'll find far more information and resources. Once you do that, then join the "Oneida Bow Hunters" group. It's a smaller splinter group founded by a few of us in the community who felt like attempting some 'aggressive expansion' in a more official communtiy approved capacity. Not to mention the people constantly asking the mods, admins, and community leaders if there was ever gonna be a lever bow group dedicated exclusively to Oneida only, so eventually we made it a reality. We just got it going a couple months ago, but it's already at a few thousand members and is now the second largest "Lever" group... However over in "Lovers", we're the largest lever bow group on the platform and officially recognized by Oneida, GCA/Area5150, Monster Bows, etc. Trust me, you'll love it. I'm extremely active in the group and I'm sure you'll see me around if you join. Shoot me a friend request and I'll open a whole new world for ya (my first name is Jake, last name starts with a "K". On Facebook, my displayed middle name is actually a nickname, and it begins with a "C". My profile pic contains both myself and 'Dr. Carson Beckett' from the series "Stargate Atlantis", if you're familiar. So now you can't miss me!) I'll introduce you to some of the big names within the community, see if we can't get you a nice little archery/lever bow network started.
ANYWAY...
So the thing is there's a reason for why all you saw was bowfishing stuff on the Oneida social media page. The primary reason for this is simply the fact that Oneida lever bows have more or less been used almost exclusively by anglers for the last 25 years. They just never grew too popular with bowhunters and stuff due to their niche design proclivities, and simply due to the fact that lever bows just haven't been able to keep up with modern compound bows in producing the performance numbers most compound archers have become accustomed to. They've remained extremely popular with bowfishers though, due to their unmatched smooth draw curve and capabiltiy to be tuned essentially on-the-go. Not to mention the fact that they can be drawn using a finger technique without concern of catastrophic failure should the user torque the string a bit. The simple fact is that Oneida knows who their core demographic is, and they're gonna be marketing to them before they market to anyone else. This is part of the problem; they basically have been relying far too much on repeat business and collectors for the better part of the last decade, so they haven't been working towards trying to wrangle any new customers. What's especially baffling about this is the fact they haven't done much of anything to keep the already existing fans on-board with the brand, and haven't changed the model line-up at all since 2014 I believe. Bear in mind their model line-up consists of not but TWO models with somewhat limited option, the Osprey and the Phoenix. But at any rate, I'm getting off topic. Point is that Oneida USED to actually give a shit and try to appeal to the rest of the archery market at one time... Back in the early 2000's when they released the Stealth Eagle, that blew people's friggin minds! Not only was it a radical new idea/design for the platform, but it was marketed almost exclusively to bow hunters. Specifically, bowhunters who might want to take their lever bow out west to take down an Elk or some shit, or journey up to Alaska and bag themselves a Grizzly Bear. To thos day it remains an either absolutely adored or utterly abhored model, and one of the only Oneidas to be sold standard with 60#/80# power limbs (actually one of the only ones to have such limbs period, come to think of it), and the absolute fastest shooting Oneida model to have ever been produced. It's got a bit of a cult following honestly lol. Now fast forward a bit, and Oneida appealed to their bowhunting clientele once again with the release of the Kestrel series, another one of my personal favorites. What was great about the Kestrel is that not only was it aimed directly at hunters, but turned out to be a great all-rounder to make its way to the line-up, much like it's older cousin the Black Eagle.
Fast forwatd a bit more, and Oneida appealed to their bowhunting fans for one last time... Back in 2017 with the release of the Phoenix. That thing was built entirely with the hunter in mind, and it was intended to be the greatest, nicest hunting bow they ever made. While I may not be a huge fan of the Phoenix riser myself, I definitely feel like they achieved that goal....
Now the Nitro... I actually don't have much to say about RPM, the makers of the Nitro, the Striker, and the Nitro/Striker XX. However I do have something to say in regards to your talkng about their overtaking Oneida due to Oneida's seemingly singular focus on angling rather than the archery market as a whole... Are you aware of the actual FULL name of the company that designed the Nitro, usually just referred to as RPM (they don't even make any of their products actually, those are all manufactured/produced overseas in China)? They're actually literally called "RPM Bowfishing, LLC." 😆😂🤣. Go poke around their website sometime man and you'll understand that they definitely have a pretty specific intended market in mind for their products... Almost everything they do is related to or intended for bowfishing. They even make reels and shit too. The website is RPMBowfishing.com lol.
Anyway, I hope to see you in L.L real soon! Can't wait to meet ya.
Why can't you bow hunt in the UK
We have very odd laws. Can only hunt with a gun. Bow fishing also counts as bow hunting here too. Shame really
I have had no problems with Oneida service I have called the number and I had mine bow strings within a week
I'm always glad to hear good stories. I wish that was the standard though
You just have to call them
Lever bows are mediocre for everything except bowfishing nowadays, they used to be better but normal compounds have far exceeded them as hunting and target bows. Oneida is marketing for the only thing they are still the best at.
I agree they are marketing on their strongest foot, but I think they are doing it while ignoring everything else
I loved shooting it too until my brother dry fired it
It's being fixed as we speak hbu
I honestly don't know how I'd react to that
@@samuelmoore8611 well I hit him with slipper again style hbu