I do think at least that Cassidy does reference Evan/Crying Child as her friend due to her for a time sharing the suit with him as well as Andrew. I feel like if this all were true, Andrew and Evan would have far less control than Cassidy, but that Evan would definitely let go a lot sooner than either of Cassidy or Andrew, either through closure with Micheal due to Micheal trying to save everyone much like Charlie, or just because he is far from vicious or the type for revenge.
@@NothingHere9911-blank keep not believing. in the books, goldenandrew is canon, but in the games, andrew doesn't even exist. (I repeat: andrew does NOT exist in games.) I don't know where they got that andrew is part of games, but it doesn't make sense.
This is an interesting theory. Though I don't necessarily ascribe to the idea that the books and games are in the same timeline, I still think there are overlaps we can take from one to help clarify lore in the other. I come from a computer science background and have found and analyzed lore right at the start of SB that shows none of the Glamrocks, particularly Freddy, are haunted. I also agree with you that Glitchtrap's not some haunted sentient virus, though he is a computer virus and he probably is sentient. I've studied network security, including computer viruses and have had to clean some of that type of crap out of websites a few times, so I know how computer viruses work IRL, and Glitchtrap does nothing that wouldn't be plausible for an IRL given artificial sentience and access to the right hardware. My theory on how he gains control over characters like Vanessa, and Tape Girl, is though prolonged exposure to him in the horror themed VR game in Help Wanted, which he uses to psychologically torture the player until he's been able to brainwash them into doing tasks for him. I also don't think Glitchtrap's existence is any accident, but an intentional action of the Fazbear Entertainment CEO (or some other high level manager there). The CEO makes sure the VR game's developers scan in data from hardware sure to include digitized memories or personality traces from the burned out old SpringBonnie suit they found in the old FFPS location. Cassidy becoming The Princess I think was an unintended side effect, since Cassidy's linked her fate to Afton's. So when Afton gets his data digitized, so too does Cassidy. Where I think the "Haunted Arcades" fit in in SB is this. Since Vanny isn't representing a direct mind control of Vanessa by Glitchtrap, but rather an effect of brainwashing and psychological programming, Glitchtrap needs something to act as a trigger to activate Vanny. Otherwise all he's got is Vanessa the Security Manager who's very reluctant to help him. The 6 arcades are spread throughout the Pizzaplex, in places Vanessa's likely to see them in regularly (at least at first), all 4 of the building's arcades get a "haunted arcade cabinet, for example. Why don't we see them in the public arcades in SB you might ask? Well we have hard evidence at least one person got within a PQ3 completion of fixing things in the Pizzaplex already, even before the events of SB happened. So the arcades had to be moved and their records purged from the database. Obviously this purge was not complete, some evidence of them was missed, otherwise Gregory and a few other arcade techs, would not have found a few clues left behind to their existence. But they were hidden and unless Gregory's run includes finding and completing them, the hiding works. OF course, Afton, the serial killer, when digitized manifested as a computer virus. What would Cassidy, the one who wishes to torment Afton manifest as? What better program then an AntiVirus? Cassidy, The Princess, is an AntiVirus program, capable of destroying or quarantining Glitchtrap copies she was able to detect.
I like. But when it comes to the books (or at least ff and tales) being canon to the games. Tales is 100% confirmed by many details such as the epilogue. And when it comes to frights Scott had said in a steam post talking about ff. "Some will be directly canon to the games, and some not." Kind of hard to say no to that imo
@@GhostFNAF Either way, the events of the Tales books can at least be taken as suggestive of similar events going on in both timelines, even if they're not actually intended to be the same exact timeline. So what I'm saying is worst case scenario, the evidence you're bringing over from the Tales books is at least suggestive of similar things going on in the SB timeline. Your conclusions, though containing some differences from mine, and coming from different source material, still come to something pretty close, so there's at least some level of connection there. Or the connections are the world's biggest Happy Accident ever.
@@Seriously_Unserious Also if PQ3 had been beaten before SB happened…..like let’s just say by that Guy in the messages in SB about PQ….What would Glitchtrap have done?
Cassidy is definitely the Vengeful Spirit (The One You Should Not Have Killed), as William Afton never killed the Crying Child, so it wouldn’t really make since for the Crying Child to be, “The one you should not have killed.” The cutscene of Golden Freddy twitching whilst fading away symbolizes Cassidy’s anger and hatred towards William, and could mean two things: it could mean that she’s finally decided to let go and find peace, or that she’s never letting go of her hatred, and she refuses to find peace. The reason that I believe Cassidy is implied to be a male in _Ultimate Custom Night_ is because, regardless of the gender of her spirit, the characters in _UCN_ are likely referring to the gender of the animatronic, Golden Freddy/Fredbear (if you’ve watched MatPat for a while, then you’re probably familiar with this subject). Finally, let’s talk about Andrew. Drew is a parallel to Cassidy, and the _Fazbear Frights_ novel series has made this quite clear (assuming that you don’t believe in Stitchline, and also believe everything else that I’ve been talking about).
@@gigantesupremo97555 We learn from the novels that the animatronics can be controlled remotely, by Spring Bonnie They likely caused Fredbear to bite down on purpose, and they're the only one still dancing after the bite, everyone else has frozen.
Maybe they're talking about golden Freddy,who Cassidy posseses. In the survival logbook,puppet was giving a cake or something else to a little girl who matches with the description of Cassidy in the fourth closet book. And in security breach, there's a minigame called "Princess guest". People say that in the files of the game,the Princess name is "Cassidy." Which makes sense that it's Cassidy because the princess kills black rabbits (who represent William) and they also try to kill her. While vanny wouldn't kill her boss and William wouldn't kill his worker. (The point of this theory is that the princess is a female. So if she IS Cassidy,then Cassidy is more likely a female.) And in the comic of the fourth closet,Cassidy also is shown as a girl. Both in the book and the comic book.
@@yoxien_ Technically the black rabbits are fragments of Agony, who mimics William, as they're not a real being with a soul. And, Vanny is shown to actively avoid Agony and their Glamrock minions, and is shown working alongside Nightmarionne, who is Agony's enemy, who is always watching everything.
The Vengeful Spirit and "the one you should not have killed" are confirmed to be the same character. The casting call for the Vengeful Spirit confirms this.
Another clus that Cassidy is the princess: There is the segment in PQ2 when the princess meets a shadow clone of herself. Shadow Freddy is a Shadow clone of Golden Freddy. The princess is colored in gold and she has a shadow clone. Cassidy is the soul of Golden Freddy. so it tie together anyway, great video! and I never even thought about the idea that PQ tells Cassidy's story. nice catch
I want to agree that Cassidy is involved in UCN along with Andrew. However, in the 11th stinger, it also shows that Eleanor is involved in TMIR1280, meaning she’s possibly the second soul attached to Afton. So, that kinda ruins Cassidy’s role in UCN…
Wait a minute, Andrew is just a parallel for Cassidy. Since Cassidy doesn’t exist in the fazzbear frights book series. Those books set on a completely separate timeline compared to the games, with only some story beats overlaughing.
That's what a lot of people think. But they fit into the games and Scott said in his post talking about frights that some story's are directly canon. Also Cassidy is not a parallel to Andrew they are not really the same at all. The only way is if Cassidy was TOYSNHK which she isn't because TOYSNHK is a Boy not a girl. Also Tales from the pizzaplex (the new book) are 100% canon. As well as 100% connected to frights
Ok, the idea that tales of the pizza Plex is 100% canon’s is just an assumption. Yes, at least the epilogue and one story in each book is deemed Cannon. And Plus I never seen the name Cassidy in the fazz bear frights
@@brantjustilian3791 Just because you haven't seen the name does mean anythi. The Epilogue 100% is and that connects to TMIR1280 since William is not in ffps. Also this skips over the fact scott in his steam post said "Some stories are directly canon to the games, some not"
8:27 it is deniably Andrew, it was confirmed, Fazbear Frights is from a different universe. There is no Andrew in the in game version, it’s all JUST Cassidy.
Two people fighting for control and one of them is at one point represented by an Alligator mask. Monty is an Alligator and is constantly trying to overthrow Freddy. Is Monty's rivalry with Freddy trying reference the two people inside Golden Freddy fighting for control???
@@GhostFNAFYour theory is debunked, because StichGames doesn't make sense and: 1. VS=TOYSNHK, They both have the same characteristics - they are in control and don't want to let you die. 2. If we are referring to Chica, she also says "I saw him, the one you shouldn't have killed" which means 2 things - either she saw Andrew die or Cassidy die. If Princess then Cassidy, you probably know the answer. 3. Golden Freddy is the one who controls UCN, we see this through the OMC minigame, deathcoin on GG and through the 48/20 cutscene. If Andrew is not Golden Freddy, then Cassidy is automatically, and therefore Cassidy is TOYSNHK. 4. Rather, Cassidy is TOYSNHK and VS, because before UCN her name was a mystery to solve and she was supposed to have a whole movie script, additionally Fazbears Frights were not planned before UCN, and in addition, 5 months after UCN, the first book Into the pit was written, which means that Andrew was not planned in UCN and we should look at him as Brooks from the trilogy - he was created to fill the place of Golden Freddy.
For me, I still think the yellow princess is Vanessa. Plus we have the Gregory mind in the BalloonBoy arcade theory. I do think the name Cassidy being a file name for the princess was just a reference. And the 1st arcade was about Vanessa accidentally letting SpringBonnieMan free and her mind being taken control. 2nd game is her fighting against him and trying to regain her mind. 3rd game is her beating Aubergine Man and being free. I don’t see how Cassidy fits into it. Perhaps it was the original story, until retconned it to be Vanessa, as DMuted believed (I think?). This is how I feel.
Cassidy actually is the princess The Princess has a golden skin and clothing color, a color highly connected to Golden Freddy. In the graveyard segment of Princess Quest 1, one of the graves is already lit up. This could suggest that one of the original six spirits is still, with Cassidy being a likely candidate for the identity of the spirit. In Princess Quest 2, the Princess can create a "Shadow" counterpart of her, similar how Golden Freddy has a Shadow Freddy as his counterpart. During Princess Quest 3, when the Princess enters the kitchen, we can see Chica watching the player. This could be a reference to Withered Chica's voiceline in UCN where she says: "I was the first, I've seen everything." This could mean that this section its a reference to how Susie could have seen Cassidy's death. In Princess Quest 3, The Princess is shown to be on the other side of the door that Vanessa finds herself locked behind at the end of Help Wanted. The Princess unlocking the door is what frees Vanessa from Glitchtrap's control. The Princess seems to take a different route and pass through different events to the ones Vanessa takes in HW. The Princess says, “something is not right…” when picking up the Glitchtrap plush and the VANNI mask. This could mean that The Princess is not familiar with these items, but still senses that something is off about them. In HW2, the files label the red old man as “OMC,” presumably standing for “Old Man Consequences.” Ir is unclear why OMC would be in Princess Quest helping Vanessa escape. It is more likely OMC would help Cassidy. In UCN, it is commonly theorized he is trying to help Cassidy move on
In my AU, Cassidy and Andrew are siblings (Cassidy being 13 and Andrew being 10) so that would explain option two of them fighting each other in Williams brain 😂. I could see it like this A: say that again you coward C: you’re a wimp A: well I would rather die again than be a wimp C: I only followed you to protect you B: * starts fighting in Japanese because that’s where they’re assentors where born and they know the language. * Edit :Also the Japanese part is apart of my AU as well 😅
For a while now, since ruins teaser was shown actually. I've thought that the story of ruin would be similar to this. However my interpretation doesn't include the stitchwraith stingers being Canon. As not EVERYTHING adds up. There's just too many plot holes for the stories to be Canon to the game universe. I still think its best they are separate but similar universes. As for my version of this theory. If Gregory being evan/the crying child is true, then as shown in the poster for ruin, he is in danger. The girl in the poster (aka the presumed protagonist of ruin) has a very similar design to Cassidy. My theory is Cassidy and evan are the two spirits in golden freddy (remember the books AND ANDREW aren't Canon to the games) Cassidy is the vengeful spirit in UCN (which I always thought was the case, I have nothing against it, but the "pronouns" explanation is kinda silly, the shared theory amongst the community has always been that Cassidy is the spirit in Golden freddy and the vengeful spirit, with the theory to explain the cc being the second spirit coming later) So lining up with the rest of your theory, if Cassidy is the princess. She is in the games code to try and stop glitchtrap, free vanny maybe, and possibly save Gregory (again the poster makes it seem like he's in danger). My overall theory is that the story of ruin will be focusing on the reuniting of the two spirits of golden freddy (Cassidy/vengeful spirit and evan/gregory/crying child, again ONLY if Gregory being him is true.) They will be finally reunited and HOPEFULLY FINALLY KILL MOTHERF***ING AFTON. Thank you for coming to my really sloppy and lengthy TED Talk.
Keep in mind I don't mind your theory, i just think it contains theories and lore assumptions I've been against that people have been making in the community recently. Mainly about the fazbear frights stitchwraith stingers (and the stories specifically connected to it) being Canon to the games. I understand the possibility of that conclusion, but your video is just as much evidence to show why it over-complicates too much shit even more. Thank you for the video anyway, hope you have a good one! 💙
I disagree on the stitchwraith stories with you. But I also had that Cassidy ruin idea and talked about it before. I'm glad even tho we disagree you were able to enjoy the video.
Some of these comments are wrong, Andrew isn’t connected to Evan/C.C, Andrew is a entirely different person, Evan Afton is the bite victim of 83’, Andrew has no confirmed death, the only thing I speculate is that there’s 2 angry spirits from both MCIs, the first being 1985, the original, and then 87’, William is confirmed to have killed 11 children, which can only be connected by two MCIs happening, and Charlie’s death, there has to be 3 children in Golden Freddy, Andrew and Cassidy, who are fighting for control, and Evan, who is quiet and talks through the survival log book, the man in room 1280 also, I don’t think the place in for William dies, it must be one of the signals being kicked out, probably Cassidy, and Andrew torments William for around 28 years, since FNAF AR and VR is in about 2048, 2 years before Security Breach.
At the start of the video, there was a golden freddy laugh, but the portion in the end is never heard in-game. Was it found in the files, or someone found an origin of the sound effect? If yes, then where is it from? (Sorry the for grammar, English is my second language)
I got it given the file idk where it's from. But I think it's one of Freddy's laughs sped up since they use the same laugh for golden Freddy and normal Freddy, just at different speeds
My theory on who manifests which animatronic in ucn is andrew/evan manifests the spring animatronics, the nightmares, the scraps, the original 4, and the funtimes because cassidy wouldnt have known about williams pep project of scaring his children away from freddy's aka the nightmares and his other project that killed his own daughter the sister location and the scraps and original 4 are litterally evan/andrew's family and friends the rest are cassidy's friends and the reason andrew/evan is called the one you shouldnt have killed is because the only thing william ever regreted was the death of his beloved youngest son and daughter (he hates micheal) but by this point he has long known that his daughter is still alive so he wouldnt feel that regret meaning the one you shouldnt have killed is what william believes him self
Cassidy isn't female, it was mentioned that he had the circus baby remnant part, which made him sound like a girl, and it's always mentioned as he in the voicelines
8:50 although the voice sounds like a girl, it is not. Because it’s just Scott trolling us once AGAIN. Just like he’s trolling us with Mangle’s gender.
@@GhostFNAF I may be getting this mixed up with the silver eyes trilogy. But I believe what Scott said was also for fazbear frights. Is that there two different canons and it can tie in with the games lore also But if what I said was wrong and you theroy is true I would love to have that in the fnaf lore.
@@BananaArt5803 He's talking about the Silver eyes books in that post. For FF he said "Some connected directly to the games, and some not." He fr said there directly connected
The fact that Cassidy and Andrew are fighting for the control of William's brain, rather than cassidy and William are doing so can be eliminated through beliving games and books (Fazbear frights) are not connected with each other. Stop trying to connect Ucn to the situation in the one of the books since they are not connected, William in this case isnt in UCN but rather in some other situation when he has control over his situation in some cases. The next thing is the fact that "Cassidy" is trying to escape from Glichtrap's prison witch is completely reversed event from what we see in the UCN and you kind of pointed out it in the video. About the Fazbear frights connections to the games - they are telling two different stories from a different perspectives and features in them - even if some of them are similar, events like this never happen in the games, why then we should belive those are associated? I will end the comment in free time.
I'm pretty sure UCN spirit is Cassady, since this makes so much more sense than outfitting Andrew (at least in games storyline, cause your video is so confusing that i'm literally lost) P.S. Also isn't Evan is literally Fredbear in game storyline, like, who tf is Andrew in games canon what
Haven’t finished the video yet but Stichline still doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe it’s explained in the book but how tf would William even still have a brain and why would someone bring him to a hospital.. actually, HOW is he in a hospital ?? As ScrapTrap, his body is seemingly nothing. He has no body to be in a hospital bed. What hospital would let a 3x burned rabbit “body” in the building… makes no sense
In Stitchwraith Stingers they explain to us that Eleanor took William to the hospital. Even in Pizzeria Simulator itself, in Scraptrap's scene in the pizzeria's dumpster, you can see a poster of Heracles Hospital. But one thing that does, the fight between Cassidy and Andrew makes no sense if he never mentions having a problem with William's control, he literally explains that he separated from William when he saw the Fazbear Entertainment animatronics saved and that he wanted to infect them, even when He talks to Jake and never mentions any of that, he just says that the doctors tried to kill him but he avoided that
0:01 , no Cassidy isn’t a girl first of all 😭 the fourth closet is confirmed to be an alternate universe of the FNaF, though Scott told us that Cassidy’s gender would be in the Fazbear Frights series, though there was no sign of Cassidy, so how come? Andrew is the alternate version of Cassidy, Andrew has curly black hair, and the Irish name for Cassidy is “of curly hair” the vengeful spirit uses “he/him” pronouns in UCN and no its no mistranslation, neither is it speaking about Golden Freddy, it is speaking about the spirit itself. Also in the graphic novels, that Cassidy wasn’t the one possessing Golden Freddy and Elizabeth had brown hair.
Cassidy being the princess in princess quest doesn’t change a lot. Since the puppet is a boy, and Charlotte is a girl, and when the Charlotte possessed the puppet, the puppet was still a boy. Also, the face in UCN does NOT have long hair whatsoever
A soul couldn’t exactly turn into a whole video game, and given Vanessa’s soul is tied to princess quest, it would’ve made more sense if Vanessa was the princess, but she’s not, because when Cassidy possessed the video game, he became the princess.
Wtf...I thought Cassidy was a dude this entire time until now...Thanks Matpat for not including that character in the Fnaf storyline course (Yeah you basically have to watch an entire online course to get a degree in Fnaf...)
Bruh. She's in the novels as a girl. She is (possibly) the girl in the logbook, and she is the princess. The only reason you would say Cassidy is a boy is if you believe a certain theory that is incorrect
@@GhostFNAF I think you need to looks closely Cassidy is might as well be the vervfill spurt ( ahem the boy in the picture?) Cassidy name could possibly be like Jeremy's name , y'know the kids - oh wait no the guard oh wait no the FNAF VR person etc
You have to remember that the books are not canon to FNAF. Therefore, it's kind of strange when you say Cassidy is a girl with black hair because Cassidy's hair color is not black in UCN, and we don't know their canon gender. You could still be correct about Cassidy being the princess, but I wanted to say that
I feel bad for the Crying Child. Bros locked in there with probably the most angriest and vengeful kid there is on earth. Bro probably doesn’t even get to move a muscle she just hogs Golden Freddy to herself
We know they know each so she’s probably easier on him. And she’s just stronger than him since her corpse is in Fredbear. I mean Jake isn’t actively putting Andrew down, so sometimes it’s just chance
How exactly did Cassidy end up in Help Wanted if she wasn't attached to William in UCN? And no, UCNDuo can't be true, because the two signals in William's brain in The Man in Room 1280 are not Andrew and Cassidy, they are Andrew and Eleanor/The Shadow. In the games, it is Cassidy and Shadow Freddy/Nightmare/Nightmarionne.
Eleanor is not a soul, she is pure agony or because of her connection to the ball pit from into the pit and Shadow Bonnie, from Fazbear frights, so it can't be considered as a brain wave, and if it's a soul, which one?
I don't believe Cassidy is in the game at all, but considering what Steel Wool has done, wouldn't be surprised if she's in the game. And we've had zero proof of Andrew being in the games at all. Maybe he's a big character in the books, but that doesn't make him a character in the games at all. If he was in the games and as important as this theory says, we would've heard about him before now.
@@GhostFNAF That's the sad reality of this franchise. Idk if Scott has lost faith in the story, or just doesn't trust himself with a new one so decides to try starting the original story back up. Hopefully, this Ruin DLC can finish Afton off for good and finally give Vanny the spotlight and give us something new to look forward to.
not going to lie you had me in the first half with just regurgitating mat pats lines back to me, but you actually came up with your own theory i like that. and added bonus your theory makes alot more sense then any of mine.
I still think Elizbeth is Vanny/Vanessa maybe just a clone (not like Faz Goo but like actual clone) or something. The reason I say that is because of the secret ending with Gregory and Freddy why would Vanny be there unless she's Elizabeth. If Vanny isn't Elizbeth then Mike isn't Glamrock Freddy and Gregory isn't Evan, which their is a lot of evidence for and in support of (despite my grips about). They all are Aftons or none of them are. Plus Glamrock Freddy has the power to "resist" Afton's control (at least temporarily). Which from what we've seen is/should be impossible for animatronics to do meaning it HAS TO BE MIKE.
@@Nightout88 Oddly I agree with BV being Gregory and Vanessa being Elizabeth in some way. But I think Glamrock freddy is Charlie, not Michael. I think it just makes a lot more sense. Soon I will have a huge video explaining a lot of theories I have on SB. In that one, I will most likely explain Glamcharlie
Pause, I guess i missed something. How do we know Andrew is canon to the games? I mean, I get the creepy kid face but Scott said that it shouldn't be assumed a girl or boy at first. What is the evidence for Andrew being canon? And that wasn't supposed to be read in a I don't believe you way, I am just genuinely curious as to where you got that from.
I believe StitchlineGames which is the theory that the stitchwraith stingers are canon to the games. There is a lot of evidence for this. Mainly Tug implying that it is in the games timeline, Scott said "Some connected directly to the games, and some not." when talking about if the ff books are canon in his steam post, The new books are 100% canon to the games and they have links to FF in Frailty and Help Wanted, and There being many references to things that only ever appeared in FF in SB. It also fits in very well since 90% of the stories in the Stitchline happen inbetween Fnaf 6 and VR. The only thing it changes is that William afton killed Andrew at some point. Which is fine since it's implied already he killed way more kids.
@@GhostFNAF that's fair, and I kind of believe in stitchline games theory, However I didn't know about Scott downright confirming that some of the books of ff are canon. I knew that tftp were though.
@@wutrudoin5431 While yes in some places the book has problems. Anything that is said to be a fact in TUG is most likely a real fact. Fr ex. GoldenCassidy, CharlieFirst, and MikeBro. The reason it would help Stitchline Games is the line talking about how the man's plan didn't work as intended and saying the puppet mask is from the 6 fire. TUG is prob the weakest point for stitchline tho. Tales being canon and scott saying they are is my main point. Also id I remember that video talks a lot about stuff in the theories part of the book, as well as graphic errors. Which are not the same as informational errors.
The face is "the one you should not have killed" or just TOYSNHK I personally believe in a theory called Stitchlinegames. This would mean that the Stichwraith stories are canon to the games. and Under that Andrew would be TOYSNHK because of the man in room 1280. Although Cassidy is still prob in UCN with him.
Stingers is not in the games it is it's own continuity because for example ITP says the kids were murdered and put into a *party room* not stuffed into the main 4 suits like the games
They prob are. Also, ITP isn't literal it's implied in the story many times to be not literal and in the epilogue, it's confirmed just to be a memory. Meaning it doesn't need to match up 1:1 with the real MCI
Impulse_evan37 made a couple of videos where he shows that stitchline games doesn't work so maybe you could make a stitchline 101 proving how it could or if it doesn't
I have a question. Not related to the video. Why does the FNAF fandom make Cassidy EVERYTHING but Golden Freddy/Vengeful Spirit or just put in Evan (I’m too lazy to write Crying Ch)or Andrew and just erase her completely. Do you guys hate the character or something?
I don't personally think I erase Cassidy. Since I think she's like the 2nd most important kid even if she isn't TOYSNHK. Like at least IMO Cassidy is the only soul in Golden Freddy and I feel like a lot of FNAF fans just leave her behind
So is Andrew Williams son? I still think connecting all of the books to the game timeline is the dumbest thing one could do. It overcomplicates everything and tbh, idk who Andrew is-
No Andrew isn't William's son. It's fr, not that much of a change at all. The only thing that changes is Andrew is TOYSNHK and he dies sometime after Charlie and Before the MCI. Cassidy still does most of the shit in Golden Freddy. (Andrew doesn't even need to be goldden freddy with UCN duo too).
@@GhostFNAF yeah no the books do change a lot actually. So many things and it creates a level of complexity that not one asked for or needed. Secondly Andrew sounds like a random ass kid and I'm still confused to why he's so important all of a sudden let alone why he's even involved in the UCN duo. Secondly, to support issues with the books: Springtrap child Eleanor and Baby Eleanor being rebuilt? ITP, I literally don't need to say anything because it should be apperant. Glitchtrap escaping very differently than the Canon escape [also he becomes Jig Saw?] The theory that William was inside of Fetch as a possibility is- its problematic to say the least. The stitch wraith and it being Ennard makes 0 sense. Scrap Giant William /Trash-trap MIR2180 even happening makes 0 sense as why would William be in a coma, in a hospital right after almost any of the Locations at any time. For example if he went into a coma before SB who tf took him to a hospital??? He's in Scraptrap- if he went into a coma before FNaF 6, how- theres- he's in a suit still- Andrew just makes no sense to me and combining the Book timeline to the Game timeline makes sense. Using the books to connect dots in the game timeline is perfectly fine and widely accepted, but meshing two separate timelines and saying it changes nothing is full hardy at best.
@@desperadowest2004 You clearly have 1. not read the books or 2. or just haven't read the epilogs based on what you are saying. as a few exsamples Springtrap child = Not an issue since it gets explained through agony. (also prob not canon) (remember only stitchline is prob canon) Eleanor and Baby = Eleanor is not circus baby even though they look the same since baby appears in a stitchline story that Eleanor is also in (DWM) ITP, I literally don't need to say anything because it should be apperant. = You very clearly have not read the books based on this alone that's not how the ballpit works. It's a messed-up memory meaning it doesn't need to be 1:1 Glitchtrap escaping very differently than the Canon escape [also he becomes Jig Saw?] = Prankster isn't canon to stitchline The theory that William was inside of Fetch as a possibility is- its problematic to say the least. = It's not a theory? It's an outright fact that Andrew and William are in fetch The stitch wraith and it being Ennard makes 0 sense. = The stitchwraith is not ennerd. That was a prediction that ended up being wrong. (again it's clear you haven't read them) Scrap Giant William /Trash-trap = So you are basically saying it's not canon because you don't like it. This smells of "I don't like it so not canon. Even though Scott said in his steam post that "some stories are directly canon to the games"
@@GhostFNAF @Ghost no, I haven't read the books, very cleaver observation you made based off the fact I started this whole thread with a question lmfao. A large majority of the FNaF community don't bother reading the books for various reasons. You failed to acknowledge most of the actual points I brought up, like the logic of Andrew's existence as a whole/his emotional importance to the Aftons, Springtrap in a Hospital bed. Like, if you wanna be a prick, at least debunk all of it, your making me sound like a whiney fan, I'm not, I actually like most of the stories and concepts of the book series, I'll absolutely point out how ridiculous they are though. ITP may be ridiculous and it absolutely is, nobody can ever say it isn't, is one of my favorites of the series. Out Of Stock, To be Beutiful, Fetch, Funtime Freddy's story [can't remember the name], I'm asking how a lot of these stories make sense for the game timeline, not that I'm hating on their existence. I question the fact they make little sense, their logic, the replacement of certain characteristics, new characters that don't add up well to the game timeline etc.
@@desperadowest2004 ok. for one their logic is Fnafs logic. They work under the same basic rules the only difference is it's not the same characters. Fetch, ITP and almost every story get explained how they work through Eleanor setting things up or Remnant. For example. The ballpit doesn't really travel through time. It puts you into a memory. And the reason for that is that Each ball in "the pit" has a memory inside of it. And the memories are fucked up after people go into them. So basically what Oswald saw is a memory that's fucked up he did not really go back in time. Also, all the memories are put there by Eleanor. Eleanor herself is an agony being with no soul. She's made of super strong bad emotions basically. She's basically like the shadows with the one difference being she has a robot body that her Agony went into. Andrew is not Aftons son in Stitchline. He latched onto William after his death due to him wanting revenge. For all, we know their only relationship is that William killed him. What happens in the story wise most of the ff books. Their logic, or what happens in them. Isn't a problem since it gets pretty well explained. When it comes to Timeline and why that's not a problem most of stitchline happens after the Fnaf 6 fire. (Also I want to mention the fnaf 6 fire is in stitchline even if it's not canon.) It's hard for me to explain fully if you haven't read the books. But basically the "it's common sense these stories are crazy!" thing. While yes in some stories crazy stuff happens, is not a good argument because a lot of their stuff gets explained in the stories themselves. Also, a lot of game characters are in these stories like Charlie and William (and maybe Michael depending on how you feel about YTB) The one big thing with stitchline is Andrew. But being honest it's this simple. Andrew was killed by William before the MCI. And he is TOYSNHK. Everything else you think about Andrew is extra stuff you put in. It fixes the pronoun problem, and the only thing you need to say is he died at some point. Not bad. Also I would read the books (up until 6) and stitchline there really good. The only one I would say to read after blackbird/book 6 is WWF, and YTB
I do think at least that Cassidy does reference Evan/Crying Child as her friend due to her for a time sharing the suit with him as well as Andrew. I feel like if this all were true, Andrew and Evan would have far less control than Cassidy, but that Evan would definitely let go a lot sooner than either of Cassidy or Andrew, either through closure with Micheal due to Micheal trying to save everyone much like Charlie, or just because he is far from vicious or the type for revenge.
I don't believe in GoldenAndrew
@@NothingHere9911-blank keep not believing. in the books, goldenandrew is canon, but in the games, andrew doesn't even exist. (I repeat: andrew does NOT exist in games.) I don't know where they got that andrew is part of games, but it doesn't make sense.
@@fort.3765 Yeah he's literally just a cassidy parallel
This is an interesting theory. Though I don't necessarily ascribe to the idea that the books and games are in the same timeline, I still think there are overlaps we can take from one to help clarify lore in the other.
I come from a computer science background and have found and analyzed lore right at the start of SB that shows none of the Glamrocks, particularly Freddy, are haunted. I also agree with you that Glitchtrap's not some haunted sentient virus, though he is a computer virus and he probably is sentient. I've studied network security, including computer viruses and have had to clean some of that type of crap out of websites a few times, so I know how computer viruses work IRL, and Glitchtrap does nothing that wouldn't be plausible for an IRL given artificial sentience and access to the right hardware.
My theory on how he gains control over characters like Vanessa, and Tape Girl, is though prolonged exposure to him in the horror themed VR game in Help Wanted, which he uses to psychologically torture the player until he's been able to brainwash them into doing tasks for him. I also don't think Glitchtrap's existence is any accident, but an intentional action of the Fazbear Entertainment CEO (or some other high level manager there). The CEO makes sure the VR game's developers scan in data from hardware sure to include digitized memories or personality traces from the burned out old SpringBonnie suit they found in the old FFPS location.
Cassidy becoming The Princess I think was an unintended side effect, since Cassidy's linked her fate to Afton's. So when Afton gets his data digitized, so too does Cassidy.
Where I think the "Haunted Arcades" fit in in SB is this. Since Vanny isn't representing a direct mind control of Vanessa by Glitchtrap, but rather an effect of brainwashing and psychological programming, Glitchtrap needs something to act as a trigger to activate Vanny. Otherwise all he's got is Vanessa the Security Manager who's very reluctant to help him. The 6 arcades are spread throughout the Pizzaplex, in places Vanessa's likely to see them in regularly (at least at first), all 4 of the building's arcades get a "haunted arcade cabinet, for example. Why don't we see them in the public arcades in SB you might ask? Well we have hard evidence at least one person got within a PQ3 completion of fixing things in the Pizzaplex already, even before the events of SB happened. So the arcades had to be moved and their records purged from the database. Obviously this purge was not complete, some evidence of them was missed, otherwise Gregory and a few other arcade techs, would not have found a few clues left behind to their existence. But they were hidden and unless Gregory's run includes finding and completing them, the hiding works.
OF course, Afton, the serial killer, when digitized manifested as a computer virus. What would Cassidy, the one who wishes to torment Afton manifest as? What better program then an AntiVirus? Cassidy, The Princess, is an AntiVirus program, capable of destroying or quarantining Glitchtrap copies she was able to detect.
I like. But when it comes to the books (or at least ff and tales) being canon to the games. Tales is 100% confirmed by many details such as the epilogue. And when it comes to frights Scott had said in a steam post talking about ff. "Some will be directly canon to the games, and some not." Kind of hard to say no to that imo
@@GhostFNAF Either way, the events of the Tales books can at least be taken as suggestive of similar events going on in both timelines, even if they're not actually intended to be the same exact timeline.
So what I'm saying is worst case scenario, the evidence you're bringing over from the Tales books is at least suggestive of similar things going on in the SB timeline.
Your conclusions, though containing some differences from mine, and coming from different source material, still come to something pretty close, so there's at least some level of connection there. Or the connections are the world's biggest Happy Accident ever.
@@Seriously_Unserious
Also if PQ3 had been beaten before SB happened…..like let’s just say by that Guy in the messages in SB about PQ….What would Glitchtrap have done?
Cassidy is definitely the Vengeful Spirit (The One You Should Not Have Killed), as William Afton never killed the Crying Child, so it wouldn’t really make since for the Crying Child to be, “The one you should not have killed.”
The cutscene of Golden Freddy twitching whilst fading away symbolizes Cassidy’s anger and hatred towards William, and could mean two things: it could mean that she’s finally decided to let go and find peace, or that she’s never letting go of her hatred, and she refuses to find peace.
The reason that I believe Cassidy is implied to be a male in _Ultimate Custom Night_ is because, regardless of the gender of her spirit, the characters in _UCN_ are likely referring to the gender of the animatronic, Golden Freddy/Fredbear (if you’ve watched MatPat for a while, then you’re probably familiar with this subject).
Finally, let’s talk about Andrew. Drew is a parallel to Cassidy, and the _Fazbear Frights_ novel series has made this quite clear (assuming that you don’t believe in Stitchline, and also believe everything else that I’ve been talking about).
I still believe that William killed Evan (Crying Child)
Toysnhk and Vengeful Spirit are different characters
that's like saying Toy Freddy and Rockstar Freddy are the same character
@@gigantesupremo97555 We learn from the novels that the animatronics can be controlled remotely, by Spring Bonnie
They likely caused Fredbear to bite down on purpose, and they're the only one still dancing after the bite, everyone else has frozen.
Maybe they're talking about golden Freddy,who Cassidy posseses. In the survival logbook,puppet was giving a cake or something else to a little girl who matches with the description of Cassidy in the fourth closet book.
And in security breach, there's a minigame called "Princess guest". People say that in the files of the game,the Princess name is "Cassidy." Which makes sense that it's Cassidy because the princess kills black rabbits (who represent William) and they also try to kill her. While vanny wouldn't kill her boss and William wouldn't kill his worker. (The point of this theory is that the princess is a female. So if she IS Cassidy,then Cassidy is more likely a female.)
And in the comic of the fourth closet,Cassidy also is shown as a girl. Both in the book and the comic book.
@@yoxien_ Technically the black rabbits are fragments of Agony, who mimics William, as they're not a real being with a soul.
And, Vanny is shown to actively avoid Agony and their Glamrock minions, and is shown working alongside Nightmarionne, who is Agony's enemy, who is always watching everything.
The Vengeful Spirit and "the one you should not have killed" are confirmed to be the same character. The casting call for the Vengeful Spirit confirms this.
Another clus that Cassidy is the princess: There is the segment in PQ2 when the princess meets a shadow clone of herself. Shadow Freddy is a Shadow clone of Golden Freddy. The princess is colored in gold and she has a shadow clone. Cassidy is the soul of Golden Freddy. so it tie together
anyway, great video! and I never even thought about the idea that PQ tells Cassidy's story. nice catch
Andrew is not getting into the Fnaf lore only in the books so it would’ve been better if you said crying child a.k.a. Evan Afton maybe
I want to agree that Cassidy is involved in UCN along with Andrew. However, in the 11th stinger, it also shows that Eleanor is involved in TMIR1280, meaning she’s possibly the second soul attached to Afton. So, that kinda ruins Cassidy’s role in UCN…
To clear Eleanor doesn't have a soul. She is made of pure agony. Meaning even tho she is involved in UCN she would not show up as a brain wave.
@@GhostFNAF Ok, thanks. Great video BTW!
@@glamrockfriend some stories in the fazbear frights are cannon and there explained in the book called the freddy files.
i think Andrew is an allegory for Cassidy
(srry if this theory is wrong)
@@GhostFNAF yup, she has no soul
Wait a minute, Andrew is just a parallel for Cassidy. Since Cassidy doesn’t exist in the fazzbear frights book series. Those books set on a completely separate timeline compared to the games, with only some story beats overlaughing.
That's what a lot of people think. But they fit into the games and Scott said in his post talking about frights that some story's are directly canon. Also Cassidy is not a parallel to Andrew they are not really the same at all. The only way is if Cassidy was TOYSNHK which she isn't because TOYSNHK is a Boy not a girl. Also Tales from the pizzaplex (the new book) are 100% canon. As well as 100% connected to frights
Ok, the idea that tales of the pizza Plex is 100% canon’s is just an assumption. Yes, at least the epilogue and one story in each book is deemed Cannon. And Plus I never seen the name Cassidy in the fazz bear frights
@@brantjustilian3791 Just because you haven't seen the name does mean anythi. The Epilogue 100% is and that connects to TMIR1280 since William is not in ffps. Also this skips over the fact scott in his steam post said "Some stories are directly canon to the games, some not"
@@GhostFNAF the one that you shouldn’t have killed can’t be Andrew since the frights aren’t canon and the ultimate guide said so
@@W.golden_editz246Huh, on the contrary, the Ultimate guide says that they are directly connected to the games
8:27 it is deniably Andrew, it was confirmed, Fazbear Frights is from a different universe. There is no Andrew in the in game version, it’s all JUST Cassidy.
4:54 pretty much they're just Arguing each other 24/7
Love how Cassidy and the Princess sprites you use are both yassified crying child
"yassified crying child" ill never be able to look at 8bit Cassidy the same way again 😭😭
Two people fighting for control and one of them is at one point represented by an Alligator mask. Monty is an Alligator and is constantly trying to overthrow Freddy. Is Monty's rivalry with Freddy trying reference the two people inside Golden Freddy fighting for control???
I personal don't think Andrew is golden Freddy but that fr is a very good point for UCN duo. It honestly made me smile think about it lol
And should we also mention there’s a golden Freddy plush in Monty’s Room?
Yeah Freddy is a bear to!
@@GhostFNAFYour theory is debunked, because StichGames doesn't make sense and:
1. VS=TOYSNHK, They both have the same characteristics - they are in control and don't want to let you die.
2. If we are referring to Chica, she also says "I saw him, the one you shouldn't have killed" which means 2 things - either she saw Andrew die or Cassidy die. If Princess then Cassidy, you probably know the answer.
3. Golden Freddy is the one who controls UCN, we see this through the OMC minigame, deathcoin on GG and through the 48/20 cutscene. If Andrew is not Golden Freddy, then Cassidy is automatically, and therefore Cassidy is TOYSNHK.
4. Rather, Cassidy is TOYSNHK and VS, because before UCN her name was a mystery to solve and she was supposed to have a whole movie script, additionally Fazbears Frights were not planned before UCN, and in addition, 5 months after UCN, the first book Into the pit was written, which means that Andrew was not planned in UCN and we should look at him as Brooks from the trilogy - he was created to fill the place of Golden Freddy.
For me, I still think the yellow princess is Vanessa.
Plus we have the Gregory mind in the BalloonBoy arcade theory.
I do think the name Cassidy being a file name for the princess was just a reference.
And the 1st arcade was about Vanessa accidentally letting SpringBonnieMan free and her mind being taken control.
2nd game is her fighting against him and trying to regain her mind.
3rd game is her beating Aubergine Man and being free.
I don’t see how Cassidy fits into it.
Perhaps it was the original story, until retconned it to be Vanessa, as DMuted believed (I think?).
This is how I feel.
Cassidy actually is the princess
The Princess has a golden skin and clothing color, a color highly connected to Golden Freddy.
In the graveyard segment of Princess Quest 1, one of the graves is already lit up. This could suggest that one of the original six spirits is still, with Cassidy being a likely candidate for the identity of the spirit.
In Princess Quest 2, the Princess can create a "Shadow" counterpart of her, similar how Golden Freddy has a Shadow Freddy as his counterpart.
During Princess Quest 3, when the Princess enters the kitchen, we can see Chica watching the player. This could be a reference to Withered Chica's voiceline in UCN where she says: "I was the first, I've seen everything." This could mean that this section its a reference to how Susie could have seen Cassidy's death.
In Princess Quest 3, The Princess is shown to be on the other side of the door that Vanessa finds herself locked behind at the end of Help Wanted. The Princess unlocking the door is what frees Vanessa from Glitchtrap's control.
The Princess seems to take a different route and pass through different events to the ones Vanessa takes in HW.
The Princess says, “something is not right…” when picking up the Glitchtrap plush and the VANNI mask.
This could mean that The Princess is not familiar with these items, but still senses that something is off about them.
In HW2, the files label the red old man as “OMC,” presumably standing for “Old Man Consequences.”
Ir is unclear why OMC would be in Princess Quest helping Vanessa escape.
It is more likely OMC would help Cassidy. In UCN, it is commonly theorized he is trying to help Cassidy move on
I had a video about Cassidy is the princess I did with my friend back in spring.
Anyways good video
YOU FINALLY MENTIONED THE AR SPRINGTRAPS, YYYEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH
In my AU, Cassidy and Andrew are siblings (Cassidy being 13 and Andrew being 10) so that would explain option two of them fighting each other in Williams brain 😂.
I could see it like this
A: say that again you coward
C: you’re a wimp
A: well I would rather die again than be a wimp
C: I only followed you to protect you
B: * starts fighting in Japanese because that’s where they’re assentors where born and they know the language. *
Edit :Also the Japanese part is apart of my AU as well 😅
Your editing and audio work is amazing how in the UCN do you only have two hundred subs
Thank you for being so nice it means a lot to me
T-T 💙
"Where the Golden Bunny Goes, The Golden Bear Follows"
The Golden Princess:
*IT'S ME!!!*
This is a pretty awesome theory. Great video.
thank you
For a while now, since ruins teaser was shown actually. I've thought that the story of ruin would be similar to this. However my interpretation doesn't include the stitchwraith stingers being Canon. As not EVERYTHING adds up. There's just too many plot holes for the stories to be Canon to the game universe. I still think its best they are separate but similar universes. As for my version of this theory. If Gregory being evan/the crying child is true, then as shown in the poster for ruin, he is in danger. The girl in the poster (aka the presumed protagonist of ruin) has a very similar design to Cassidy. My theory is Cassidy and evan are the two spirits in golden freddy (remember the books AND ANDREW aren't Canon to the games) Cassidy is the vengeful spirit in UCN (which I always thought was the case, I have nothing against it, but the "pronouns" explanation is kinda silly, the shared theory amongst the community has always been that Cassidy is the spirit in Golden freddy and the vengeful spirit, with the theory to explain the cc being the second spirit coming later) So lining up with the rest of your theory, if Cassidy is the princess. She is in the games code to try and stop glitchtrap, free vanny maybe, and possibly save Gregory (again the poster makes it seem like he's in danger). My overall theory is that the story of ruin will be focusing on the reuniting of the two spirits of golden freddy (Cassidy/vengeful spirit and evan/gregory/crying child, again ONLY if Gregory being him is true.) They will be finally reunited and HOPEFULLY FINALLY KILL MOTHERF***ING AFTON. Thank you for coming to my really sloppy and lengthy TED Talk.
Keep in mind I don't mind your theory, i just think it contains theories and lore assumptions I've been against that people have been making in the community recently. Mainly about the fazbear frights stitchwraith stingers (and the stories specifically connected to it) being Canon to the games. I understand the possibility of that conclusion, but your video is just as much evidence to show why it over-complicates too much shit even more. Thank you for the video anyway, hope you have a good one! 💙
I disagree on the stitchwraith stories with you. But I also had that Cassidy ruin idea and talked about it before. I'm glad even tho we disagree you were able to enjoy the video.
Some of these comments are wrong, Andrew isn’t connected to Evan/C.C, Andrew is a entirely different person, Evan Afton is the bite victim of 83’, Andrew has no confirmed death, the only thing I speculate is that there’s 2 angry spirits from both MCIs, the first being 1985, the original, and then 87’, William is confirmed to have killed 11 children, which can only be connected by two MCIs happening, and Charlie’s death, there has to be 3 children in Golden Freddy, Andrew and Cassidy, who are fighting for control, and Evan, who is quiet and talks through the survival log book, the man in room 1280 also, I don’t think the place in for William dies, it must be one of the signals being kicked out, probably Cassidy, and Andrew torments William for around 28 years, since FNAF AR and VR is in about 2048, 2 years before Security Breach.
I know why…
Because she always gets what she wants 🤣🤣🤣
At the start of the video, there was a golden freddy laugh, but the portion in the end is never heard in-game. Was it found in the files, or someone found an origin of the sound effect? If yes, then where is it from? (Sorry the for grammar, English is my second language)
I got it given the file idk where it's from. But I think it's one of Freddy's laughs sped up since they use the same laugh for golden Freddy and normal Freddy, just at different speeds
Got confirmed with help wanted 2, in princess quest 4 its says she need help to get rid of glitchtrap forever,what would cassidy want.
I still believe they worked together once c.c and Cassidy but they fought over Williams brain because they were equally mad at him
My theory on who manifests which animatronic in ucn is andrew/evan manifests the spring animatronics, the nightmares, the scraps, the original 4, and the funtimes because cassidy wouldnt have known about williams pep project of scaring his children away from freddy's aka the nightmares and his other project that killed his own daughter the sister location and the scraps and original 4 are litterally evan/andrew's family and friends the rest are cassidy's friends and the reason andrew/evan is called the one you shouldnt have killed is because the only thing william ever regreted was the death of his beloved youngest son and daughter (he hates micheal) but by this point he has long known that his daughter is still alive so he wouldnt feel that regret meaning the one you shouldnt have killed is what william believes him self
Game theory: i'm already explain like a few months ago
Cassidy isn't female, it was mentioned that he had the circus baby remnant part, which made him sound like a girl, and it's always mentioned as he in the voicelines
Cassidy is not the vengeful spirit
Thanks for this but who is Andrew ?
Andrew is a character from the Fazbear Frights books. (which I suggest reading (only 1-6 and the stitchwraith stingers) there really good)
I have tô ask, Who The hell are Andrew? A Characther of The Books, i know, but How He is 100% *CANNON* with The Main Timeline?
I'm talking about that in my next video which is a remake of the UCN part of this one so I would wait for that
8:50 although the voice sounds like a girl, it is not. Because it’s just Scott trolling us once AGAIN. Just like he’s trolling us with Mangle’s gender.
I knew the face in ucn was a boy i just knew it!
But did anyone didn't notice but what year of the FNAF restaurant was built actually did Noah didn't notice that
Hey Ghost Scott said that fazbear frights was a different canon.
wdym?
@@GhostFNAF I may be getting this mixed up with the silver eyes trilogy. But I believe what Scott said was also for fazbear frights. Is that there two different canons and it can tie in with the games lore also But if what I said was wrong and you theroy is true I would love to have that in the fnaf lore.
@@BananaArt5803 He's talking about the Silver eyes books in that post. For FF he said "Some connected directly to the games, and some not." He fr said there directly connected
@@GhostFNAF then I 100% agree with your theory.
Nightmare Fredbear at UCN is Evan and Cassidy
The fact that Cassidy and Andrew are fighting for the control of William's brain, rather than cassidy and William are doing so can be eliminated through beliving games and books (Fazbear frights) are not connected with each other. Stop trying to connect Ucn to the situation in the one of the books since they are not connected, William in this case isnt in UCN but rather in some other situation when he has control over his situation in some cases. The next thing is the fact that "Cassidy" is trying to escape from Glichtrap's prison witch is completely reversed event from what we see in the UCN and you kind of pointed out it in the video. About the Fazbear frights connections to the games - they are telling two different stories from a different perspectives and features in them - even if some of them are similar, events like this never happen in the games, why then we should belive those are associated?
I will end the comment in free time.
Why wouldn't William have a brainwave?
He would I have a new take on this and am currently making a video on it. SO get ready for that :>
If Cassidy really is the Princess I am super curious to know what happens to her after the game.😭✋
I have a question. Who the hell is Andrew?
Andrew is from the Fazbear Frights books
I'm pretty sure UCN spirit is Cassady, since this makes so much more sense than outfitting Andrew (at least in games storyline, cause your video is so confusing that i'm literally lost)
P.S. Also isn't Evan is literally Fredbear in game storyline, like, who tf is Andrew in games canon what
But in the books Cassidy has Light brown hair
Cassidy is also in the Logbook
I absolutely disagree that the Stitchwraith Stingers are canon to the games, there are far too many blatant contradictions for this to ever be true
Agreed
Andrew tate 🗿🍷
Who tf is Andrew
He's in the Fazbear frights books. He's in the epilogues and the man in room 1280
Haven’t finished the video yet but Stichline still doesn’t make sense to me. Maybe it’s explained in the book but how tf would William even still have a brain and why would someone bring him to a hospital.. actually, HOW is he in a hospital ?? As ScrapTrap, his body is seemingly nothing. He has no body to be in a hospital bed. What hospital would let a 3x burned rabbit “body” in the building… makes no sense
In Stitchwraith Stingers they explain to us that Eleanor took William to the hospital. Even in Pizzeria Simulator itself, in Scraptrap's scene in the pizzeria's dumpster, you can see a poster of Heracles Hospital. But one thing that does, the fight between Cassidy and Andrew makes no sense if he never mentions having a problem with William's control, he literally explains that he separated from William when he saw the Fazbear Entertainment animatronics saved and that he wanted to infect them, even when He talks to Jake and never mentions any of that, he just says that the doctors tried to kill him but he avoided that
The princes is suppose to be vanny/vanessa.
Cassidy isn't a girl.
She is
Possesing Foxy : :/
Possesing Golden Freedy >:)
ist evan/cc the bite wicton doesnt the other spirit be evan/cc?
what?
@@GhostFNAF I don’t even know what they were tryna say😭
@@GhostFNAF they are asking if the other spirit would be "evan" or the crying child. Aka the bite victim
@@VirusXtra Like in golden or Ucn. (the anwser to both is prob not tbh.) Maybe golden freddy, but only maybe
@@GhostFNAF Then who does the Crying Child/Evan become after death?
is Cassidy and Andrew siblings?
Sorry about the comment. It just that the vid felt like copying so my bad😅
copying?
@@GhostFNAF 1:27 to 1:33
I’m just saying
Sounded real familiar
@@Ultrainium69 Well it would prob sound familiar It's a pretty common opinion from what I have seen.
0:01 , no Cassidy isn’t a girl first of all 😭 the fourth closet is confirmed to be an alternate universe of the FNaF, though Scott told us that Cassidy’s gender would be in the Fazbear Frights series, though there was no sign of Cassidy, so how come? Andrew is the alternate version of Cassidy, Andrew has curly black hair, and the Irish name for Cassidy is “of curly hair” the vengeful spirit uses “he/him” pronouns in UCN and no its no mistranslation, neither is it speaking about Golden Freddy, it is speaking about the spirit itself. Also in the graphic novels, that Cassidy wasn’t the one possessing Golden Freddy and Elizabeth had brown hair.
Cassidy being the princess in princess quest doesn’t change a lot. Since the puppet is a boy, and Charlotte is a girl, and when the Charlotte possessed the puppet, the puppet was still a boy. Also, the face in UCN does NOT have long hair whatsoever
A soul couldn’t exactly turn into a whole video game, and given Vanessa’s soul is tied to princess quest, it would’ve made more sense if Vanessa was the princess, but she’s not, because when Cassidy possessed the video game, he became the princess.
Wtf...I thought Cassidy was a dude this entire time until now...Thanks Matpat for not including that character in the Fnaf storyline course (Yeah you basically have to watch an entire online course to get a degree in Fnaf...)
There's more proof of Cassidy being a boy so
Bruh. She's in the novels as a girl. She is (possibly) the girl in the logbook, and she is the princess. The only reason you would say Cassidy is a boy is if you believe a certain theory that is incorrect
@@GhostFNAF I think you need to looks closely
Cassidy is might as well be the vervfill spurt ( ahem the boy in the picture?)
Cassidy name could possibly be like Jeremy's name , y'know the kids - oh wait no the guard oh wait no the FNAF VR person etc
@@devanloa This is a bad argument on your side also she is called Cassidy in the files. She is very clearly a girl
@@GhostFNAF okay tell me , who in ucn who's the vegel spurt why is Cassidy at the end ?
@@GhostFNAF Yu do people use he
But actually Cassidy in the game is a boy.
You have to remember that the books are not canon to FNAF. Therefore, it's kind of strange when you say Cassidy is a girl with black hair because Cassidy's hair color is not black in UCN, and we don't know their canon gender. You could still be correct about Cassidy being the princess, but I wanted to say that
Character games same characters book
Scott himself confirmed it
If kid number 5 name is Cassidy means she same Cassidy book but different story like henry
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Ucn kid never Cassidy
It's Scott who play Andrew ucn
Andrew canon same way Henry who never mentioned games but appears one game
I feel bad for the Crying Child. Bros locked in there with probably the most angriest and vengeful kid there is on earth.
Bro probably doesn’t even get to move a muscle she just hogs Golden Freddy to herself
but he can just sleep for a while annd be lazy
We know they know each so she’s probably easier on him. And she’s just stronger than him since her corpse is in Fredbear. I mean Jake isn’t actively putting Andrew down, so sometimes it’s just chance
i actually find this funny 😂 poor guy
How exactly did Cassidy end up in Help Wanted if she wasn't attached to William in UCN? And no, UCNDuo can't be true, because the two signals in William's brain in The Man in Room 1280 are not Andrew and Cassidy, they are Andrew and Eleanor/The Shadow. In the games, it is Cassidy and Shadow Freddy/Nightmare/Nightmarionne.
Eleanor is not a soul, she is pure agony or because of her connection to the ball pit from into the pit and Shadow Bonnie, from Fazbear frights, so it can't be considered as a brain wave, and if it's a soul, which one?
I don't believe Cassidy is in the game at all, but considering what Steel Wool has done, wouldn't be surprised if she's in the game.
And we've had zero proof of Andrew being in the games at all. Maybe he's a big character in the books, but that doesn't make him a character in the games at all. If he was in the games and as important as this theory says, we would've heard about him before now.
Again this is under StitchlineGames. Which I do admit can be wrong
but at this point think it can go ether way
@@GhostFNAF That's the sad reality of this franchise. Idk if Scott has lost faith in the story, or just doesn't trust himself with a new one so decides to try starting the original story back up. Hopefully, this Ruin DLC can finish Afton off for good and finally give Vanny the spotlight and give us something new to look forward to.
not going to lie you had me in the first half with just regurgitating mat pats lines back to me, but you actually came up with your own theory i like that. and added bonus your theory makes alot more sense then any of mine.
I still think Elizbeth is Vanny/Vanessa maybe just a clone (not like Faz Goo but like actual clone) or something.
The reason I say that is because of the secret ending with Gregory and Freddy why would Vanny be there unless she's Elizabeth.
If Vanny isn't Elizbeth then Mike isn't Glamrock Freddy and Gregory isn't Evan, which their is a lot of evidence for and in support of (despite my grips about).
They all are Aftons or none of them are.
Plus Glamrock Freddy has the power to "resist" Afton's control (at least temporarily).
Which from what we've seen is/should be impossible for animatronics to do meaning it HAS TO BE MIKE.
@@Nightout88 Oddly I agree with BV being Gregory and Vanessa being Elizabeth in some way. But I think Glamrock freddy is Charlie, not Michael. I think it just makes a lot more sense. Soon I will have a huge video explaining a lot of theories I have on SB. In that one, I will most likely explain Glamcharlie
Pause, I guess i missed something. How do we know Andrew is canon to the games? I mean, I get the creepy kid face but Scott said that it shouldn't be assumed a girl or boy at first. What is the evidence for Andrew being canon? And that wasn't supposed to be read in a I don't believe you way, I am just genuinely curious as to where you got that from.
I believe StitchlineGames which is the theory that the stitchwraith stingers are canon to the games. There is a lot of evidence for this. Mainly Tug implying that it is in the games timeline, Scott said "Some connected directly to the games, and some not." when talking about if the ff books are canon in his steam post, The new books are 100% canon to the games and they have links to FF in Frailty and Help Wanted, and There being many references to things that only ever appeared in FF in SB. It also fits in very well since 90% of the stories in the Stitchline happen inbetween Fnaf 6 and VR. The only thing it changes is that William afton killed Andrew at some point. Which is fine since it's implied already he killed way more kids.
@@GhostFNAF that's fair, and I kind of believe in stitchline games theory, However I didn't know about Scott downright confirming that some of the books of ff are canon. I knew that tftp were though.
@@GhostFNAF how does TUG imply it?
The book had looooooots of problems.
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@@wutrudoin5431 While yes in some places the book has problems. Anything that is said to be a fact in TUG is most likely a real fact. Fr ex. GoldenCassidy, CharlieFirst, and MikeBro. The reason it would help Stitchline Games is the line talking about how the man's plan didn't work as intended and saying the puppet mask is from the 6 fire. TUG is prob the weakest point for stitchline tho. Tales being canon and scott saying they are is my main point. Also id I remember that video talks a lot about stuff in the theories part of the book, as well as graphic errors. Which are not the same as informational errors.
@@GhostFNAF It says that Sister Location takes place at Circus Baby's Pizza World and has even more mistakes.
It's not reliable.
Overall the princess quest theory was very good! But the UCN duo and Cassidy being a girl was not quite right 😭 but it’s alright
tbh this video makes sense
7:19
Can someone explain please- isnt the face Cassidy’s????? I’m so confused
The face is "the one you should not have killed"
or just TOYSNHK
I personally believe in a theory called Stitchlinegames. This would mean that the Stichwraith stories are canon to the games. and Under that Andrew would be TOYSNHK because of the man in room 1280. Although Cassidy is still prob in UCN with him.
@@GhostFNAF oh alright! Thanks for the explanation!
Stingers is not in the games it is it's own continuity because for example ITP says the kids were murdered and put into a *party room* not stuffed into the main 4 suits like the games
They prob are. Also, ITP isn't literal it's implied in the story many times to be not literal and in the epilogue, it's confirmed just to be a memory. Meaning it doesn't need to match up 1:1 with the real MCI
Impulse_evan37 made a couple of videos where he shows that stitchline games doesn't work so maybe you could make a stitchline 101 proving how it could or if it doesn't
Make sense why the princess is gold which is a reference to Golden Freddy's quest to save the remaining victims of William Afton
Fun fact: I thought cassidy was a boy and I still do but I dont want to fight with any other people
I have a question. Not related to the video. Why does the FNAF fandom make Cassidy EVERYTHING but Golden Freddy/Vengeful Spirit or just put in Evan (I’m too lazy to write Crying Ch)or Andrew and just erase her completely. Do you guys hate the character or something?
I don't personally think I erase Cassidy. Since I think she's like the 2nd most important kid even if she isn't TOYSNHK.
Like at least IMO Cassidy is the only soul in Golden Freddy and I feel like a lot of FNAF fans just leave her behind
it feels like matpat is contaminating fnaftube as a whole
Wait... Isn't... Isn't Cassidy confirmed to be a boy in ucn tho??
Nope, she is confirmed to be a girl in TFC. And she isn't TOYSNHK who is a boy
That’s GF the suit she in
But there’s only one thing where is the crying child he was missing after Williams death at fnaf 1
a.k.a Evan Afton or Norman Afton I mean he have A lot of nicknames or the actual name
So is Andrew Williams son? I still think connecting all of the books to the game timeline is the dumbest thing one could do. It overcomplicates everything and tbh, idk who Andrew is-
No Andrew isn't William's son. It's fr, not that much of a change at all. The only thing that changes is Andrew is TOYSNHK and he dies sometime after Charlie and Before the MCI. Cassidy still does most of the shit in Golden Freddy. (Andrew doesn't even need to be goldden freddy with UCN duo too).
@@GhostFNAF yeah no the books do change a lot actually. So many things and it creates a level of complexity that not one asked for or needed. Secondly Andrew sounds like a random ass kid and I'm still confused to why he's so important all of a sudden let alone why he's even involved in the UCN duo. Secondly, to support issues with the books:
Springtrap child
Eleanor and Baby
Eleanor being rebuilt?
ITP, I literally don't need to say anything because it should be apperant.
Glitchtrap escaping very differently than the Canon escape [also he becomes Jig Saw?]
The theory that William was inside of Fetch as a possibility is- its problematic to say the least.
The stitch wraith and it being Ennard makes 0 sense.
Scrap Giant William /Trash-trap
MIR2180 even happening makes 0 sense as why would William be in a coma, in a hospital right after almost any of the Locations at any time. For example if he went into a coma before SB who tf took him to a hospital??? He's in Scraptrap- if he went into a coma before FNaF 6, how- theres- he's in a suit still-
Andrew just makes no sense to me and combining the Book timeline to the Game timeline makes sense. Using the books to connect dots in the game timeline is perfectly fine and widely accepted, but meshing two separate timelines and saying it changes nothing is full hardy at best.
@@desperadowest2004 You clearly have 1. not read the books or 2. or just haven't read the epilogs based on what you are saying. as a few exsamples
Springtrap child = Not an issue since it gets explained through agony. (also prob not canon) (remember only stitchline is prob canon)
Eleanor and Baby = Eleanor is not circus baby even though they look the same since baby appears in a stitchline story that Eleanor is also in (DWM)
ITP, I literally don't need to say anything because it should be apperant. = You very clearly have not read the books based on this alone that's not how the ballpit works. It's a messed-up memory meaning it doesn't need to be 1:1
Glitchtrap escaping very differently than the Canon escape [also he becomes Jig Saw?] = Prankster isn't canon to stitchline
The theory that William was inside of Fetch as a possibility is- its problematic to say the least. = It's not a theory? It's an outright fact that Andrew and William are in fetch
The stitch wraith and it being Ennard makes 0 sense. = The stitchwraith is not
ennerd. That was a prediction that ended up being wrong. (again it's clear you haven't read them)
Scrap Giant William /Trash-trap = So you are basically saying it's not canon because you don't like it.
This smells of "I don't like it so not canon. Even though Scott said in his steam post that "some stories are directly canon to the games"
@@GhostFNAF @Ghost no, I haven't read the books, very cleaver observation you made based off the fact I started this whole thread with a question lmfao. A large majority of the FNaF community don't bother reading the books for various reasons. You failed to acknowledge most of the actual points I brought up, like the logic of Andrew's existence as a whole/his emotional importance to the Aftons, Springtrap in a Hospital bed. Like, if you wanna be a prick, at least debunk all of it, your making me sound like a whiney fan, I'm not, I actually like most of the stories and concepts of the book series, I'll absolutely point out how ridiculous they are though. ITP may be ridiculous and it absolutely is, nobody can ever say it isn't, is one of my favorites of the series. Out Of Stock, To be Beutiful, Fetch, Funtime Freddy's story [can't remember the name], I'm asking how a lot of these stories make sense for the game timeline, not that I'm hating on their existence. I question the fact they make little sense, their logic, the replacement of certain characteristics, new characters that don't add up well to the game timeline etc.
@@desperadowest2004 ok. for one their logic is Fnafs logic. They work under the same basic rules the only difference is it's not the same characters. Fetch, ITP and almost every story get explained how they work through Eleanor setting things up or Remnant.
For example.
The ballpit doesn't really travel through time. It puts you into a memory. And the reason for that is that Each ball in "the pit" has a memory inside of it. And the memories are fucked up after people go into them. So basically what Oswald saw is a memory that's fucked up he did not really go back in time. Also, all the memories are put there by Eleanor.
Eleanor herself is an agony being with no soul. She's made of super strong bad emotions basically. She's basically like the shadows with the one difference being she has a robot body that her Agony went into.
Andrew is not Aftons son in Stitchline. He latched onto William after his death due to him wanting revenge. For all, we know their only relationship is that William killed him.
What happens in the story wise most of the ff books. Their logic, or what happens in them. Isn't a problem since it gets pretty well explained.
When it comes to Timeline and why that's not a problem most of stitchline happens after the Fnaf 6 fire. (Also I want to mention the fnaf 6 fire is in stitchline even if it's not canon.)
It's hard for me to explain fully if you haven't read the books. But basically the "it's common sense these stories are crazy!" thing. While yes in some stories crazy stuff happens, is not a good argument because a lot of their stuff gets explained in the stories themselves.
Also, a lot of game characters are in these stories like Charlie and William (and maybe Michael depending on how you feel about YTB)
The one big thing with stitchline is Andrew. But being honest it's this simple. Andrew was killed by William before the MCI. And he is TOYSNHK. Everything else you think about Andrew is extra stuff you put in. It fixes the pronoun problem, and the only thing you need to say is he died at some point. Not bad.
Also I would read the books (up until 6) and stitchline there really good.
The only one I would say to read after blackbird/book 6 is WWF, and YTB
Who’s Andrew?
Andrew is a kid from the Fazbear frights books. He is in the stitchwraith and TMIR1280
It’s not Cassidy 🤓
Based theory
thank u
If glitchtrap is no longer afton and was always the mimic01 program, does that change princess quest? How do you interpret that?
How change princess quest
Cassidy name by mistake
Princess is vanessa and cassie
Cassie has same mask in princess quest
Overall the princess quest theory was very good! But the UCN duo and Cassidy being a girl was not quite right 😭 but it’s alright
She is a girl😭✋
@@LeaveMeAlone3omgIgotloggedouta not imo, wanna hear my theory?
@@Whoiscassie lemme hear it
Cassidy does not exists in fnaf and cant be proven with in-game facts since logbook has only in-game facts the ppl who -found- cassidy where wrong