Love your videos! Being a 70s baby aka Arcade nut and a electronic hobbyist I appreciate your down to earth troubleshooting. I live in central NC, the next time I go to Concord to visit an old Air Force buddy I would love to come down and see you guys!
MY OCD is driving me mad. On the 1st flash you made a note of bulbs not working and noted the bottom left flipper one bulb not working. I think in this video it is still not working when you showed it in attact mode. The second one appears to have two bulbs per flipper but the 1st only one on the left side. Great work videos are always great. I own a 1996 Epoch Homers melt down and all these videos keep me learning about gaming
Ron, if the two diodes are coming off of a center-tapped transformer where the center tap is the ground/return, just two diodes will form a FULL-WAVE rectifier. The only downside I see to using the 6A4 (6A, 400PIV) on that board is that the diodes touch (or are very close). so the each heat the other one up. It would be best to have some space between them, from a thermal standpoint. The P300A is a 3A, do you doubled capacity there. It's PIV is just 50V...so it is more susceptible to blowing due to any spikes. It tops out at 50VDC. So, your 6A4 is an upgrade, for sure. Something to consider while you are troubleshooting what is popping the fuse is to hook up a lamp/LED (with suitable dropping resistor to handing the higher voltage), so you know EXACTLY when that fuse/breaker opens.
I put that BLEEeeeppp on everything!!!! I tell you what if I ever get the courage to do a RUclips channel I'm full on swearing like Deadpool. People take themselves too seriously. Not you of course. Another great one!!!
yep, george the connector gremlin, he gets around, been around for years, he visited me once on a machine that had these connectors on it that i was working on years ago 😉😁 Honestly i think between the heat and just old age those connectors have a tendency to do that, they get warped, pin alignments get wacky and next thing you know you have a trick connector, kind of like trick candles. The fuse blowing thing, interesting, love those diagnostic challenges when it's not something obvious, look forward to seeing what you find. Happy Independence Day Ron, Joe 🎆🎆
Ron just had a similar issue with sol fuse blowing, i found one of the metal ball stops (small one) behind the 5 drop targets came out and fell into the drop mech.
🤔 Looks like the connector eject solenoid is intermittent 😕 Really interested to find out what gremlin is doing that! Great video as always thanks for taking the trouble to share with us! ☺
Im not into these older machines but played a Blackhole and Gorgar... have to admit it they were fun...this was after 45 minutes of playing Godzilla. i have yet to play a pinbot. Its on my bucket list. Putting on new rubbers make a huge difference. Blackhole was faster than a fly to a pile of dog shit...
What a different thing this Flash is compared to the last one. Intermittent issues are often so hard to work out. … I’m looking forward to you sorting this one out. Happy 4th July to all the guys at Joe’s Classic Video games. ….. where did that Bank A Ball go?
Great video, this might be a long series. A lot of little stuff needs to be done. Is that a walking connector you have? See you on the next video. Thanks Ronnie
Gremlins with newly transported pinballs are the worst. Connectors that wander, things that trigger strangely or not and so on. I bought one that had a catalogue of issues like this when I got her inside and setup. All were solved with a bit of clening with paper on the contacts, and a simple bit of going over on other contacts and connectors. They can be right bastards.
I notice that the persistent background sound - Ronnie talks about it on the other video, it increases in pitch the longer you keep the ball in play - is not present on this second Flash game. Anyway, I don't know if this is a clue about what might be happening, i.e. could the problem be on the sound board? Side note - Flash is a great table, but the art looks like it was done by someone in middle school.
There's a setting to turn the background sound off since all the boring people complain about it, so it was probably turned off on this one, we'll see :)
My power supply board does not have those two yellow capacitors. Is that a problem? You mention something about the earlier boards had them and maybe not the later boards?
You are fine, they designed those caps into the original design on the first couple games, it's like a warm up voltage for the displays that they later decided wasn't needed, if you've got the one without the caps it'll work in any of the games. Basically they use the other voltage for that voltage and it works fine.
Its a pinballgeist, when something strange is going on, something is wrong who you gonna call? Joes Classic Video Games! But all in all its prally wear and it being old, the pins get wonky with heat and other factors.
JOE CLASSIC, Any advantage or what is the reasons to use HALF wave rectification instead of FULL wave rectification? I have seen other pinball games use HALF wave rectification but I'm not sure why they would use it instead of FULL wave rectification because there must be a benefit or reason to use Half wave instead of full wave.
While I'm not the target for your question, as an electronics hobbyist and someone who watches ElectroBoom, I should be able to answer this question. There really shouldn't be one except cost. Half wave rectification is, as the name implies, only using half the sine wave while full wave rectification uses the full sine wave. Half wave can be accomplished with 1 or 2 diodes while full wave requires 4 diodes to create a FULL bridge rectifier. Either way you're still getting the same voltage, it's just more work for the smoothing capacitor to smooth the voltage into DC if you only do half the sine wave as it has to make up for the dead space while the other half of the sine wave is being blocked.
@@Mosblinker I'm not sure if its about saving moving because they are only saving 2 diodes but then you need a larger filter capacitor values to work harder to smooth out the voltage into DC. HALF Wave is only 2 diodes but the filter capacitors values are larger which cost more money plus they have to work harder to smooth out the pulsating 60hz into 0hz DC voltage. It just doesn't make sense why would pinball designers choose Half wave rectification instead of Full wave rectification.
I've complained about this twice already! We're being misled in these last two videos! LOL If there's No Queen, I'll Be Mean! I swear that their funnest album IS the soundtrack to the 1980 Flash Gordon film which I bought in a deluxe European HD release this past year! The movie has a so-so script but it's a guilty pleasure. The music softens a lot of the crap and bad special effects of the film! Ironically, it's still the best Flash Gordon movie ever made. Just like the 1986 Transformers animated film is better than of the Bayformers movies!
Flash, one time! Flash, two times! Doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon Flash--!! Ahh, ahhh! Not the Savior of the Universe? What the hell is this Flash? He's not blonde, he's not buff, and there's nooooo Dale!
Ooooh the taller one! Amazing how two identical machines can be different in terms of their faults and problems.
Flash looks like a fun machine. Cannot wait to see what you find and fix.
It's a really well designed early one.... thanks for watching Kent!
Square wave really made my day!
Good morning and Happy Bang Bang Day Ron. Everyone have a good one or two.
I'm going to celebrate my country by blowing up a small portion of it :)
Love your videos! Being a 70s baby aka Arcade nut and a electronic hobbyist I appreciate your down to earth troubleshooting. I live in central NC, the next time I go to Concord to visit an old Air Force buddy I would love to come down and see you guys!
Come on down Ken!
Great talent you possess
Greetings from Amsterdam, Netherlands. I love your channel, I repaired a lot of pinballs years ago and I love to see them back.
Remember the Alamo people 🤠
Always!
Got yourself a gremlin in the shop, great video
Thank you for watching Tucker!
MY OCD is driving me mad. On the 1st flash you made a note of bulbs not working and noted the bottom left flipper one bulb not working. I think in this video it is still not working when you showed it in attact mode. The second one appears to have two bulbs per flipper but the 1st only one on the left side. Great work videos are always great. I own a 1996 Epoch Homers melt down and all these videos keep me learning about gaming
Ron, if the two diodes are coming off of a center-tapped transformer where the center tap is the ground/return, just two diodes will form a FULL-WAVE rectifier. The only downside I see to using the 6A4 (6A, 400PIV) on that board is that the diodes touch (or are very close). so the each heat the other one up. It would be best to have some space between them, from a thermal standpoint.
The P300A is a 3A, do you doubled capacity there. It's PIV is just 50V...so it is more susceptible to blowing due to any spikes. It tops out at 50VDC. So, your 6A4 is an upgrade, for sure.
Something to consider while you are troubleshooting what is popping the fuse is to hook up a lamp/LED (with suitable dropping resistor to handing the higher voltage), so you know EXACTLY when that fuse/breaker opens.
Flash is nice Pinball Machine 😎👍
Yes, Flash finally!! Thanks for this Great video!!
I put that BLEEeeeppp on everything!!!! I tell you what if I ever get the courage to do a RUclips channel I'm full on swearing like Deadpool. People take themselves too seriously. Not you of course. Another great one!!!
Thank you buddy we appreciate you watching!
yep, george the connector gremlin, he gets around, been around for years, he visited me once on a machine that had these connectors on it that i was working on years ago 😉😁
Honestly i think between the heat and just old age those connectors have a tendency to do that, they get warped, pin alignments get wacky and next thing you know you have a trick connector, kind of like trick candles.
The fuse blowing thing, interesting, love those diagnostic challenges when it's not something obvious, look forward to seeing what you find.
Happy Independence Day Ron, Joe 🎆🎆
I'd definitely agree with that. Had connectors like this creep outwards and I'd absolutel guarantee it's a combination of age, wear maybe and heat.
Just keep doing what you do if they are that handy they would have Utube show.
It's not the same game without the drone!! Those engineers knew what they were doing. We signal like an Egyptian people. Happy 4th everybody!!
Great video. My friend haven’t watched in a min . Glad to see you still doing what you do best.
Ron just had a similar issue with sol fuse blowing, i found one of the metal ball stops (small one) behind the 5 drop targets came out and fell into the drop mech.
That would do it! Thank you CNKayutube!
🤔 Looks like the connector eject solenoid is intermittent 😕 Really interested to find out what gremlin is doing that! Great video as always thanks for taking the trouble to share with us! ☺
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Hello Lil Everette!
Im not into these older machines but played a Blackhole and Gorgar... have to admit it they were fun...this was after 45 minutes of playing Godzilla. i have yet to play a pinbot. Its on my bucket list. Putting on new rubbers make a huge difference. Blackhole was faster than a fly to a pile of dog shit...
LOL. that one is going in the archive.
Intermittent problems are more of a mystery - looking forward to seeing what it turns out to be.
good job again
Happy 4th! God Bless the USA 🇺🇸
Now Ron fixes pinball machines with a bromstick and not multimeter 😀
What a different thing this Flash is compared to the last one. Intermittent issues are often so hard to work out. … I’m looking forward to you sorting this one out. Happy 4th July to all the guys at Joe’s Classic Video games. ….. where did that Bank A Ball go?
C'mon I see double dragon 👍👍👍
Great video, this might be a long series. A lot of little stuff needs to be done. Is that a walking connector you have? See you on the next video. Thanks Ronnie
It’s your head and you can do it anyway you want to
That's what I thought too
Gremlins with newly transported pinballs are the worst. Connectors that wander, things that trigger strangely or not and so on. I bought one that had a catalogue of issues like this when I got her inside and setup. All were solved with a bit of clening with paper on the contacts, and a simple bit of going over on other contacts and connectors. They can be right bastards.
I notice that the persistent background sound - Ronnie talks about it on the other video, it increases in pitch the longer you keep the ball in play - is not present on this second Flash game. Anyway, I don't know if this is a clue about what might be happening, i.e. could the problem be on the sound board? Side note - Flash is a great table, but the art looks like it was done by someone in middle school.
There's a setting to turn the background sound off since all the boring people complain about it, so it was probably turned off on this one, we'll see :)
My power supply board does not have those two yellow capacitors. Is that a problem? You mention something about the earlier boards had them and maybe not the later boards?
You are fine, they designed those caps into the original design on the first couple games, it's like a warm up voltage for the displays that they later decided wasn't needed, if you've got the one without the caps it'll work in any of the games. Basically they use the other voltage for that voltage and it works fine.
Its a pinballgeist, when something strange is going on, something is wrong who you gonna call? Joes Classic Video Games! But all in all its prally wear and it being old, the pins get wonky with heat and other factors.
JOE CLASSIC, Any advantage or what is the reasons to use HALF wave rectification instead of FULL wave rectification? I have seen other pinball games use HALF wave rectification but I'm not sure why they would use it instead of FULL wave rectification because there must be a benefit or reason to use Half wave instead of full wave.
While I'm not the target for your question, as an electronics hobbyist and someone who watches ElectroBoom, I should be able to answer this question. There really shouldn't be one except cost. Half wave rectification is, as the name implies, only using half the sine wave while full wave rectification uses the full sine wave. Half wave can be accomplished with 1 or 2 diodes while full wave requires 4 diodes to create a FULL bridge rectifier. Either way you're still getting the same voltage, it's just more work for the smoothing capacitor to smooth the voltage into DC if you only do half the sine wave as it has to make up for the dead space while the other half of the sine wave is being blocked.
@@Mosblinker I'm not sure if its about saving moving because they are only saving 2 diodes but then you need a larger filter capacitor values to work harder to smooth out the voltage into DC. HALF Wave is only 2 diodes but the filter capacitors values are larger which cost more money plus they have to work harder to smooth out the pulsating 60hz into 0hz DC voltage. It just doesn't make sense why would pinball designers choose Half wave rectification instead of Full wave rectification.
"So let's see. If I wiggle the head, does that make it pop off?" What?
Stay hot, Ron.
And, don't get electrokilled.
LOL.
Okay, raise your hand if you said/thought AH-AH! after each time Ronnie said Flash.
I've complained about this twice already!
We're being misled in these last two videos! LOL
If there's No Queen, I'll Be Mean!
I swear that their funnest album IS the soundtrack to the 1980 Flash Gordon film which I bought in a deluxe European HD release this past year!
The movie has a so-so script but it's a guilty pleasure. The music softens a lot of the crap and bad special effects of the film!
Ironically, it's still the best Flash Gordon movie ever made. Just like the 1986 Transformers animated film is better than of the Bayformers movies!
Did you have background sounds off while playing and testing
Hey Joe is there any way I can order a pinball machine from you?
I shere He would for the right amount of cash flow. I jump through hoops for 5 bucks. LOL. Have a great 4th of July.
Hey buddy good to see ya again boy it's been a long day since ur last video. Were you been? Hahaha
Looks like somebody's got your number...
Does it play Queen?
It doesn't!
@@LyonsArcade Awww…
I’ll watch your vid through nevertheless!
What a lovely electro mechanical beast!
Although Ron & Joe are the saviors of the universe when it comes to pinball machines and video games!
Flash, one time!
Flash, two times!
Doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon doon
Flash--!! Ahh, ahhh!
Not the Savior of the Universe?
What the hell is this Flash?
He's not blonde, he's not buff, and there's nooooo Dale!
Come on, George.
Square wave???? Linear PSU ripple will always be sinusoidal.
For the love of electrons, replace those old wax capacitors! They WILL fail! And most likely fail shorted.
Those aren't Wax capacitors. How about you keep being Grumpy, because you're good at it, and leave the pinball repair to me bucko
i knows what u were doing a sine wave init
It's almost a sin.
Ooo. Ooo. Sine Language?