I've had mine probably 6 months. It's survived all weather types. Mud, flash flood rains, hard knocks, recoil through thousands of rounds. Everything seems pretty spot on other than the cable. Potted electronics. Decent threads. Good seals. It's just the cord is a little flimsy feeling but I taped it out of the way and tight so it's fine.
Great video, Ive built several MK18 and Block II clones in the past and they get expensive when you are using clone correct parts. After burning $2000+ on these builds I've decided to build another MK18 CQBR SBR but this time on a budget. Still using good parts from DD,Colt..etc but instead of spending $200 on a KAC Flip up sight and $300+ on a surefire scout I decided to go this route. Picked up a chinese knock off for less than 40 bucks and found a company who makes knock off KAC front sights for $15. Just in those 2 items that are more for looks I saved myself almost $500.
Late to the party, but FYI, Surefire light caps and tail caps are made in China, in the same factories as the clones, then shipped and assembled in the USA. The clones are actually the run overs from the surefire production lines. This is why the China clones are so realistic.
I have 2 scout 600 sotac gear mounted on a 12 G shotgun and one on a ar15. No issues yet after hundreds of rounds. Sotac makes pretty solid lasers also. My knock off perst 4 is still holding solid after 2 years.
Caleb Downing I know you said the momentary press function was backwards but have you tried that with a different tail cap? Or different pressure switch ?
I have not. The only supplied pieces I have are the "clicky tail cap" and the tape switch. I tried to put my real surefire tail cap on my the thread pitch is different.
Mine runs beautiful, its now on my truck/shtf battle rifle, i think i have 1500 round with the light on it and the light still nice a bright and just as new as i took it out of the box!!
@CalebDowning is you're light still holding up?!? So far I have heard nothing but great reviews from this light, only thing I have heard was the cap with the button on it can be a little wonky.
@tony4metallicaify So mine is toast now. I’ve had it since making this video but in 2023 it finally but the dust. I swapped tail caps and batteries so it’s the light itself that died. It’s fine as a causal range light or something for posting IG pictures. But I wouldn’t trust it as a work light.
@ caleb downing i jave the SF chinese m300v and the tailcap button does do a momentary when just lightly pressing it without having to turn it on first then do a strobe or momentary on off. My clone is soo close to the real deal its scary lol
@@Hatchet_Jack556 i got it from ebay most of the newer element lights have this option now i believe. I can however speak for the m300v it is soo close to the real thing its ridiculous
Hey man nice vid! If thats not asking too much, would you measure the inner diameter where the battery goes? I wanted to know if a 18350 battery would fit. Itsbarely the same size of the CR123A. ( diameter 18.45mm and length 37.36mm) Thanks
Thanks man! It’s diameter is 16.4mm and 37.57mm length. I believe a 16340 will fit though. Here’s a link to the company I like to use for my rechargeable light batteries. www.orbtronic.com/cr123a-16340-rechargeable-lithium-ion-700mah-orbtronic-battery
@@CalebDowning oh thank you so much! I like to mod flashlights and for this project I needed a 18350 that I can put a lot of current through!! Are the walls too thin?? Do you think I could remove that 2mm in a lathe? Thanks
@@CalebDowning I am about to buy one of these from Ebay. They now make a legit tape switch that clamps onto a AR-15 top rail. Im going to get that and the light ans save some dollars instead of getting an overpriced Surefire.
If someone walks into the shop with velcro on their rig..... yeaaaahhhhhh even if SF sent a piece of velcro, abd the reddit 🤡's say its cool just cuz it cost $100, ur still gonna have a hard time having ANYONE that has a clue taking you seriously.. Zip ties do work, BUT if you wanna atleast look like u know what ur doing.... its ranger bands or nothing. Just sayin🤷♂️.
Video is almost 2 years old, soo... is this light still alive? Was it worth buying? Im thinking about purchasing this chinese clone, because i don't use lights that much anyways, but i want to have one for practise.
I have had good fortune with UTG lights . I have one that I have had on AK for almost 5 years. I am considering the UTG version . But am open to try any of them.
I got the same flashlight as you. Which batteries did you use? I bought the "SureFire CR123a" batteries, but they didnt fit. They were too big. Which ones did you use? The website suggests "cr123a" batteries, they just dont fit lol
So far so good. I haven’t torture tested it but it has banged around in my tuck to and from the range and had kept working. I’ll finish up the review sometime this summer most likely
I thought you bought a full priced sure fire but got a knock off, that's the kind of video I am looking for. If you paid $30 for a flashlight you're going to get a $30 flashlight.
Sorry for the delay 🤦♂️ This light has worked about 85% of the time. I have used multiple switches and most of them worked. Currently the light is dead. I’m trying to assess if it’s a battery connection issue or if the head finally gave out.
You gotta keep in mind that these lights are made as toys. If you want one as a “prop” or just to see how you like the look of the light then these ones are fine. If you want a lit that will work reliably on an actual rifle then I’d go with Streamlight for a budget option or perhaps Surefire/Modlite/Arisaka for a higher end option.
I took the clone light off its mount to see and it did mount to a real SureFire mount. I do not have the thorn tail mount but if it fits a factory SureFire mount then I would think that it would fit the other aftermarket mounts.
Caleb Downing ... awesome thanks for the quick reply bub! Found one on ebay n ordered it but ill be ordering another seems well worth the money to me especially when you can prob replace some of the parts with SF parts im guessin ... if Sure Fire wants to sale them for $300 thats cool but i think they should at least make an affordable $100 version with most of the same features and colors ... IMO... i like buyin good american made stuff but flat out dont have $269 especially when i need 2 ha ... thanks again for the reviews man keep em comin!!!
Look into the Streamlight offerings. I’ve got a couple of their rail mount series and currently on them on my “for real” setups. The Chinese knockoffs are a fun toy but I wouldn’t trust them if anything serious was on the line.
Stick with streamlight. Sub $100 and you get a quality light and good tape switch. I use the Protac Rail Mount HL-X on my bedside gun and a Rail Mount 1 on another rifle.
According to other videos on the "tube", that light is actually an air soft clone. I've noticed a lot of the parts on Ali are just that, Air soft parts. Let the buyer beware.
How about some beard grooming tips? My god that thing is dare I say Chris Costa status lol Wondering how the light holds up over time, I have a mini scout on one of my rifles and it takes a lot of abuse from my muzzle brake and still holds up.
Haha, I wouldn't put myself up anywhere near Mr. Costa's beard but thanks. As far as the light goes, I have only heard good things about the reliability of the SF Scout lights. I don't have the highest expectations for this ~$35 light but I'll give it a fair test in the name of science.
I know where your coming from. I’ve been there. I would never recommend getting a light like this to be used in a serious application. I’m fixing to do a follow up video on this that may surprise you.
Buy once, cry once is what I've learned. And you pay to get guarantee and ruggedness. Not worth trying too cheap. SL lights are GTG. SL, Inforce and Surefire for me only. They're proven themselves.
@@JK-sy3tt Sucks for the loss but at least they proved they failed not under a threat. It's a shame for the prices of the higher end(SF, Arisaka) but there are alternatives like Streamlight and even Olight has some options. I just want something like you said, something you depend on.
Absolute garbage. Although I knew that buying it, put it on my 870 12ga and it was destroyed within 100 rounds. Good for airsoft, not for actual firearms application. I opened it up to see what failed, and surface mount components had literally detached, from where they were soldered on the board.
You should make a video showing it. I bought a few m600 lights from China and have them on my 870, 1 on my m16 clone, and a m300 on my midlength AR and every one of them have had minimum 3000 rounds from them with zero issues other than one of them is a bit chared on the side from when I had it a bit too close to the flash hider. Moved it back a bit and all is good on all of them. Most of the stories I hear of failures are bullshit from people that are upset over the name brand being stolen or are good ol boys that think everything has to be made in USA to be good quality.
I do plan on doing an update video. I have had some issues with them but it is currently working. I hear ya though. I agree, I think a lot of folks freak out when it’s not made in the US of A.
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I've had mine probably 6 months. It's survived all weather types. Mud, flash flood rains, hard knocks, recoil through thousands of rounds. Everything seems pretty spot on other than the cable. Potted electronics. Decent threads. Good seals. It's just the cord is a little flimsy feeling but I taped it out of the way and tight so it's fine.
2 years later and mine is still running great
Mine as well 👍 It flushers from time to time but it’s still lighting up.
Jeeze. These lights are almost $70 now. Dec. 2023.
Gotta love that inflation 😏
Great video, Ive built several MK18 and Block II clones in the past and they get expensive when you are using clone correct parts. After burning $2000+ on these builds I've decided to build another MK18 CQBR SBR but this time on a budget. Still using good parts from DD,Colt..etc but instead of spending $200 on a KAC Flip up sight and $300+ on a surefire scout I decided to go this route. Picked up a chinese knock off for less than 40 bucks and found a company who makes knock off KAC front sights for $15. Just in those 2 items that are more for looks I saved myself almost $500.
Ya buddy 👍 cloning is not a cheap hobby. 😬 Some of the knockoffs out there, like this one, work pretty stinking well.
Caleb Downing have you tried JE Mechine Techs knock off KAC sights?
Not yet, HoldenSS
Late to the party, but FYI, Surefire light caps and tail caps are made in China, in the same factories as the clones, then shipped and assembled in the USA.
The clones are actually the run overs from the surefire production lines. This is why the China clones are so realistic.
Thanks brotha for making this type of video. Im subscribing due to this video. This is the only one I’ve seen so far. So definitely appreciate man.
Well awesome! Thanks for the encouragement man!
I have 2 scout 600 sotac gear mounted on a 12 G shotgun and one on a ar15. No issues yet after hundreds of rounds. Sotac makes pretty solid lasers also. My knock off perst 4 is still holding solid after 2 years.
This video alone got you my sub, loved your clone videos as well. Look forward to seeing more!
Thanks man. I'm glad you enjoy the content. I'm hoping to get some more content, recorded at least, this week.
Caleb Downing I know you said the momentary press function was backwards but have you tried that with a different tail cap? Or different pressure switch ?
I have not. The only supplied pieces I have are the "clicky tail cap" and the tape switch. I tried to put my real surefire tail cap on my the thread pitch is different.
Haha, I ordered a Scout M600 from ChyNa on Sept. 8th and got it on Sept. 23rd as well. Mine was $20 and some change. It's legit, not gonna lie.
I just today got a m300V, the dual IR/White mini. Very solid piece.
Mine runs beautiful, its now on my truck/shtf battle rifle, i think i have 1500 round with the light on it and the light still nice a bright and just as new as i took it out of the box!!
Nice! Good to hear 👌
@CalebDowning is you're light still holding up?!? So far I have heard nothing but great reviews from this light, only thing I have heard was the cap with the button on it can be a little wonky.
@tony4metallicaify So mine is toast now. I’ve had it since making this video but in 2023 it finally but the dust. I swapped tail caps and batteries so it’s the light itself that died. It’s fine as a causal range light or something for posting IG pictures. But I wouldn’t trust it as a work light.
@ caleb downing i jave the SF chinese m300v and the tailcap button does do a momentary when just lightly pressing it without having to turn it on first then do a strobe or momentary on off. My clone is soo close to the real deal its scary lol
@@Hatchet_Jack556 i got it from ebay most of the newer element lights have this option now i believe. I can however speak for the m300v it is soo close to the real thing its ridiculous
Olight is made in China, been around for many years with improvement. Its up there now with the higher end tactical lights.
They are definitely trying to improve their products for sure.
Wow. You talk a LOT… lol. But seriously, great review… you answered just about every question I had over 21+ minutes! Dig it!
Haha, well thanks 👍
Haha… I’m just Playing around… Seriously though, glad to see someone reviewing an item like this. 🤘🏼
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Thanks man, I appreciate the support.
Hey man nice vid! If thats not asking too much, would you measure the inner diameter where the battery goes? I wanted to know if a 18350 battery would fit. Itsbarely the same size of the CR123A. ( diameter 18.45mm and length 37.36mm) Thanks
Thanks man!
It’s diameter is 16.4mm and 37.57mm length. I believe a 16340 will fit though.
Here’s a link to the company I like to use for my rechargeable light batteries.
www.orbtronic.com/cr123a-16340-rechargeable-lithium-ion-700mah-orbtronic-battery
@@CalebDowning oh thank you so much! I like to mod flashlights and for this project I needed a 18350 that I can put a lot of current through!! Are the walls too thin?? Do you think I could remove that 2mm in a lathe? Thanks
If you’ve got a lathe then you should be able to, go for it 👍
@@CalebDowning thanks again!!!!!!
Get a Streamlight ProTac HL-X 1000 Lumen. Best light for the money.
Can’t argue with you there 👍 That’s the light I currently run on my house gun.
Exactly what I bought after destroying my aliexpress surefire knockoff
Curious to see how it holds up, and the adhesive velcro that isn't great as you mention.
I've already ditched the velcro and went straight for the zip tie. So far so good.
@@CalebDowning I am about to buy one of these from Ebay. They now make a legit tape switch that clamps onto a AR-15 top rail. Im going to get that and the light ans save some dollars instead of getting an overpriced Surefire.
Link to tape switch www.ebay.com/itm/Constant-Momentary-Tail-Switch-Fits-SF-M300-M600-M951-M952-Scout-Light-/162945030894?_trksid=p5731.m3795
If it’s just for fun than for for it man👍
If someone walks into the shop with velcro on their rig..... yeaaaahhhhhh even if SF sent a piece of velcro, abd the reddit 🤡's say its cool just cuz it cost $100, ur still gonna have a hard time having ANYONE that has a clue taking you seriously..
Zip ties do work, BUT if you wanna atleast look like u know what ur doing.... its ranger bands or nothing.
Just sayin🤷♂️.
Hi. Thanks for the rewiev. I'm looking for one of those for mine airsoft gun. Do strobe works on the cable momentary push button?
This model doesn’t have strobe. I think it would work very well for an airsoft light though 👌
What's going on, for a budget light can't beat for the price, just add your own Velcro on it..
Hey man, not much. The price is right but well see about the quality here in the future.
Video is almost 2 years old, soo... is this light still alive? Was it worth buying? Im thinking about purchasing this chinese clone, because i don't use lights that much anyways, but i want to have one for practise.
It’s still going 👍 The pressure pad is a little finicky sometimes but for the money it’s well worth it.
I have had good fortune with UTG lights . I have one that I have had on AK for almost 5 years. I am considering the UTG version . But am open to try any of them.
Rechargeable batteries are only supposed to be used with led. It will kill all other bulbs
True that. My first Surefire was an E2E and I made the mistake of using rechargable batteries.
I got the same flashlight as you. Which batteries did you use? I bought the "SureFire CR123a" batteries, but they didnt fit. They were too big. Which ones did you use? The website suggests "cr123a" batteries, they just dont fit lol
Nevermind... I was trying to put the batteries in from the back. It didnt fit, i opened it the way you had, and it fit lol thanks for the video!
It’s the simple things sometimes 👍
How is holding up??? I was thinking of buying 5 of those lights...
So far so good. I haven’t torture tested it but it has banged around in my tuck to and from the range and had kept working. I’ll finish up the review sometime this summer most likely
They are honestly 1:1 clones and last forever and take a lot of abuse
When did it come in ?
I can’t log in but it would have most likely been shortly before the video was made.
Lathes are fun...
I thought you bought a full priced sure fire but got a knock off, that's the kind of video I am looking for. If you paid $30 for a flashlight you're going to get a $30 flashlight.
Very estate observation 🤓
Any update?
Sorry for the delay 🤦♂️
This light has worked about 85% of the time. I have used multiple switches and most of them worked. Currently the light is dead. I’m trying to assess if it’s a battery connection issue or if the head finally gave out.
@@CalebDowning thanks for the response. I'm wondering if it's even worth buying one of these
You gotta keep in mind that these lights are made as toys. If you want one as a “prop” or just to see how you like the look of the light then these ones are fine. If you want a lit that will work reliably on an actual rifle then I’d go with Streamlight for a budget option or perhaps Surefire/Modlite/Arisaka for a higher end option.
If you take the 1913 mount off does the light have stand offs for like a Thor tail mount?
I took the clone light off its mount to see and it did mount to a real SureFire mount. I do not have the thorn tail mount but if it fits a factory SureFire mount then I would think that it would fit the other aftermarket mounts.
Yes they do
Can you tell me where you got this thing please!!!
AliExpress
Caleb Downing ... awesome thanks for the quick reply bub! Found one on ebay n ordered it but ill be ordering another seems well worth the money to me especially when you can prob replace some of the parts with SF parts im guessin ... if Sure Fire wants to sale them for $300 thats cool but i think they should at least make an affordable $100 version with most of the same features and colors ... IMO... i like buyin good american made stuff but flat out dont have $269 especially when i need 2 ha ... thanks again for the reviews man keep em comin!!!
Look into the Streamlight offerings. I’ve got a couple of their rail mount series and currently on them on my “for real” setups.
The Chinese knockoffs are a fun toy but I wouldn’t trust them if anything serious was on the line.
How is it holding up?
So far so good👍 I haven’t forgotten to do the follow up video, it’s coming.
How’s the light held up?
If still works, but it’s not very bright and it does flicker from time to time.
Caleb Downing looking for something for my 7.5 saint m lok. Suggestions?
Stick with streamlight. Sub $100 and you get a quality light and good tape switch. I use the Protac Rail Mount HL-X on my bedside gun and a Rail Mount 1 on another rifle.
Caleb Downing thanks for the reply and suggestion 👍 keep them vids coming
Thanks, Will do man👍
can you remove the mount?
Yup 👍
What battery u use.
Those are CR123A’s. I’ve used deferent brands of rechargeable ones but the ones I like the most are Orbtrinic.
Caleb Downing thanks. I bought some streamlight batts. So far so good. Wish app hasn’t let me down yet as far as Tactical clones.
They’ve got some good stuff, just be careful what you use for any “lifeline” applications 😉
Caleb Downing agreed
Caleb Downing I like to test it all at the range jic
According to other videos on the "tube", that light is actually an air soft clone. I've noticed a lot of the parts on Ali are just that, Air soft parts. Let the buyer beware.
Ya that's what it is advertised as but so far it has held up fairly well.
@@CalebDowning its advertised like that because the ATF doesnt want people on ali or wish Selling anything related to firearms
It’s a 1:1 clone. You could sell them as legit if you had the right packaging tbh
How about some beard grooming tips? My god that thing is dare I say Chris Costa status lol Wondering how the light holds up over time, I have a mini scout on one of my rifles and it takes a lot of abuse from my muzzle brake and still holds up.
Haha, I wouldn't put myself up anywhere near Mr. Costa's beard but thanks. As far as the light goes, I have only heard good things about the reliability of the SF Scout lights. I don't have the highest expectations for this ~$35 light but I'll give it a fair test in the name of science.
It doesn’t look like a SureFire 300 Scout, and the tail cap doesn’t have the dual on/off and momentary switches so it’s not a clone
Yes it does and the real one does not come with a remote switch at all it’s an accessory.. I have both and the switch you speak of is about $100 extra
Buy once cry once! If you know it’s not going to last it’s not worth spending the money on it. No point, but to each their own
I know where your coming from. I’ve been there. I would never recommend getting a light like this to be used in a serious application. I’m fixing to do a follow up video on this that may surprise you.
I have both. Same flashlight.
Buy once, cry once is what I've learned. And you pay to get guarantee and ruggedness. Not worth trying too cheap. SL lights are GTG. SL, Inforce and Surefire for me only. They're proven themselves.
My department just sent them all back. We had several fail. We won't be trusting my life with them.
@@JK-sy3tt Sucks for the loss but at least they proved they failed not under a threat. It's a shame for the prices of the higher end(SF, Arisaka) but there are alternatives like Streamlight and even Olight has some options. I just want something like you said, something you depend on.
Chinese suRefire m300 clone
hahaha
Absolute garbage. Although I knew that buying it, put it on my 870 12ga and it was destroyed within 100 rounds.
Good for airsoft, not for actual firearms application. I opened it up to see what failed, and surface mount components had literally detached, from where they were soldered on the board.
You should make a video showing it. I bought a few m600 lights from China and have them on my 870, 1 on my m16 clone, and a m300 on my midlength AR and every one of them have had minimum 3000 rounds from them with zero issues other than one of them is a bit chared on the side from when I had it a bit too close to the flash hider. Moved it back a bit and all is good on all of them. Most of the stories I hear of failures are bullshit from people that are upset over the name brand being stolen or are good ol boys that think everything has to be made in USA to be good quality.
I do plan on doing an update video. I have had some issues with them but it is currently working. I hear ya though. I agree, I think a lot of folks freak out when it’s not made in the US of A.
@@CalebDowning I'll wait for it.