Let's all be Xianzhou and not tell acheron Let's all be fire and not tell acheron Let's all be nihility and not tell lingsha Let's all be women and not tell Jiaoqiu
Breakeron is a real thing now. Acheron ult: colorless. Fugue ult: colorless. Fugue's tether: colorless. With Lingsha E1 (-DEF when broken) and Fugue S1 (+Vuln when broken), it's probably a pretty thicc gain in damage for Acheron whenever the enemy is downed. Not to mention exo-break. And because Fugue brings some superbreak, any BE% rolls on Acheron or JQ will be converted into useful damage. What a weird team.
Now Gallagher can work better as well for Acheron, not only his Enhance Basic and Ultimate apply Debuff ; but with Fugue's skill, Gallagher's Normal Basic will also apply Debuff. It is nice that the Debuff also work on Lingsha's Follow Up besides Basic, Skill and Ultimate, which will help stack Acheron's Ultimate faster.
Actually, if you have the multiply abundance lc, gallagher is the one that takes so much turns, even better you can always generate stacks fast with ult and 100 action adv. The only cons is that he does not have full team cleanse@@kaiky_3821
@@kaiky_3821 I'm assuming they didn't imply that Gallagher has a better synergy with Fugue than Lingsha. But that his performance will vastly improve in Archeron's teams with Fugue helping him generate stacks for Archeron with his basic attacks as well
@kaiky_3821 What I mean is that Fugue makes Gallagher better in Acheron team. Of course, Lingsha is now greater with Acheron since all her attacks can inflict Debuff with Fugue's skill, not forgetting Aventurine too (no need his S1 if Fugue skill). I am glad we have more sustain options for Acheron, even Fire MC or Fu Xuan with Trend are viable even if not optimal. Although I am not sure if Trend can stack regardless of Jiaoqu stack.
i love these "unorthodox" synergies that we find every time a new character comes out. sure it may not be the "best" for clear-time/damage, but seeing it perform in its own way is pretty interesting. cant wait to see what acheron + boothill + fugue + jiaoqiu/lingsha/gallagher would do 🤨
Fugue buff, the target when attacking puts defense reduction, and archeron gains charges with the allies that you put debuff, also lingsha and aventurine are additional attacks, it seems that they designed it so that fugue does not buff archeron but abundance / preservation
What? You're aware she's meant for break effect, right? HMC powercreep. She puts def debuffs, yeah, but she's not BiS for Acheron. Pretty sure Silver Wolf and maybe even Pela will still perform better.
@@Twigggggy Out of relevance and yet she is still better than Fugue for Acheron with a lot more defense reduction. 45% DEF down from ult, 8% DEF down from talent, and 20% DMG RES down to the type silver wolf implants. Fugue is DEF down by 18% and that's it. Not stackable. She gives a crap ton of break effect and enables exo-toughness, yeah, but how does that matter on Acheron's debuff and crit build? Also SW is literally BiS for an E0 Acheron's premium team with Jiaoqiu, over Pela, so... I don't really get your point... Silver Wolf is better than Fugue for Acheron in every way, Fugue is a superbreak enabler... Pulling Fugue for Acheron is like pulling Robin for Firefly, does it work...? Ehhh, a bit, I guess? Is it good? No xD
@@BenBeckmane you know all your points are well made but fugue in this team seems like she would be better than a sw for a pure fiction team that runs e0 archeron but like you said pela works fine in the role of just feel sw is so weak now that so many characters either ignore toughness bar or have a build in implant element as a weakness
@@BenBeckmaneIt's 18% but can be higher if you use resolution LC. The main thing is that her buff makes anyone a debuff applicator. So Lingsha and Fuyuan now apply Debuffs. And SW is rather niche when you fight 3+ enemies. She's not useless but very fallen off
1:22 The fact that fugue ult didn't even kill that mob with that hp just shows how underwhelming that ult is for the animation, I really hope they lower the cost or add some debuff to it to make it more impactful
She's a superbreak enabler and break buffer, cut her some slack 😭 She is NOT a crit character, she does no damage outside of break damage, she is NOT made for an Acheron team...
@@BenBeckmane yeah, but at the same time.. when i first checked her kit, i was FLABBERGASTED. Nothing on her ult, just damage? On a NIHILITY OF ALL TYPES?! we can cut her some slack with her super break enable but.. Damn. Just wished her ult did SOMETHING, atleast like boost break effect, even if it's a tiny bit? Like seriously, I checked on info about her and I saw nothing special on her ult, just.. Fire damage, and that's it.
Glad someone tried this strat It may or may not have higher damage per ult than her usual comps but the stack generation is so much better Also, as a request, could you try a superbreak team with e1 fugue, harmony mc, firefly and e1 lingsha? Thanks again
Could we see comparisons with all 5 stars e0s0 for Jiaoqiu Pela vs Jiaoqiu Fugue vs Pela Fugue in an Acheron + sustain team? Would be really helpful to get an idea of how they all perform as a f2p
If they make any changes on V3 to Tingyun they should put the def shred on her in enhanced basic attack and put a damage buff on her skill and change the break effect to the weakness break efficiency.
@@Vekysus no that’s why I said move the def shred to her enhance basic she would still be able to give her stacks well also just flat out, giving her a damage boost.
Yeah, I think she needs to get some other debuff. Ultra looks the best as it looks really useless.. so it would be nice to lower its cost or add a powerful debuff on it. After all, Fugue is nothingness, it's strange that all her passives only go towards buffing the team
@@songvumail Who knows? Maybe that 16 energy from QPQ could be a factor for smoother Burst Rotations from Jiaoqiu, Pela or the Harmony units such as Robin, which leads to faster clears.
@@JMike-bq6rlis it possible, that QPQ 'on accident' gives Acheron the 16 energy, but since shes not on energy-type ultimate, the 16 energy just...yknow..gone?
I didnt watch carefully all the gameplay but it seem like at e0s0, with lingsha its pretty much the same cycle and time with aven. The gallagher showcase didnt put fugue skill on galllagher so cant compare. The pela instead of fugue one finish a bit earlier but its with jq e0s1. Overall pela give higher dmg for ache ult but slower stack generation. I think fugue could be a substitute on equal strength for pela
She is about equal to Pela, weaker than Silver Wolf. BiS for E0 Acheron is Jiaoqiu + Silver Wolf (or Pela since nobody has Silver Wolf even though she IS better for Acheron), and Aventurine. Fugue is a superbreak enabler, her DEF reduction is super low, ALL of her other buffs are break/superbreak related. Putting Fugue with Acheron is like putting Robin with Firefly. Do you get bonus damage? Sure... Does it work together well...? Ehhhh... Not so much...
@@BenBeckmane The main thing about fugue is that aside from the break stuff she also allows another teammate to generate stacks with ANY of their attacks. Acheron also takes advantage of the break buffs because her ult is colorless. Hell, the proof is in this video. Lingsha generates stacks super fast thanks to fugue buff, while also being able to be a break subdps due to superbreak (and after v3 she is colorless aswell)
Help guys. I was thinking pull Acheron E2 and Aventurine's lightcone (my team is acheronE0S1,sparkleE0S1, JiaoqiuE0E0, aventurineE0S0), but Fugue ability in Aventurine makes like Aventurine E2S1, so... i dont know
If your acheron is already high invested then go for e2 bc it's an major upgrade and then go for Aventurine lc for additional debuff bc fugue is a good debuff but only for break teams tho yes u can make sub stats for break in acheron but that's up to u
Could you make a comparaison with Kafka Superbreak (with Ruan Mei + Lingsha) ? To me, it seems like Kafka has much better synergy with superbreak in general (better Toughness dmg, better affinity with the Break Effect and Speed stats)
On the S0 run, there's no point in running Resolution on Both Jq and Fugue, since the Def shred doesnt stack. Would be better to run somehing else on either of them.
What if we replace Linhsha with Marth 7th Preservation with "A New Round of Shuffling" lightcone ? I know this team will struggle with sustain, but just think about it. Each time a unit attacks Marth 7, Archeron instantly gains not 1, but 2 stacks (up to 3 times per Marth 7th's turn). Do I overcook?
maybe you're cooking for pure fiction. but trend market lc doesn't stack with jiaoqiu's enemy tuen debuff. so with jiaoqiu in the team, the enemy will only gain the stack from march's fua
ton of ult stack for acheron acheron skill & sig lc fugue resolution lc jq ba skill ult lingsha ba skill ult & fuyuan turn cause she apply debuff from fugue skill enemy turn from that footage she can ult twice every cycle
This team is so juiced, thanks for the gameplay my guy. So basically, on average Fugue + Acheron teams should be taking around 2-3 cycles against current end game bosses. Definitely better than Pela, and probably better than Sparkle. In your opinion, how do they stack up against Sunday and Robin?
@@bronben5479idk what u have against sustainless runs, i can 1 try without dying clear with mediocre build acheron, cuz ruan help her break faster and increase her dmg, work better in at least most lighting weak scenario but still
@@greenvega i don’t have anything against sustainless runs, they are just an unreliable metric when trying to assess on a character’s pull value. It forces you to have high stat investment, specific pre-planned rotations, resets in case of bad RNG, and they often change from patch to patch due to evolving enemies, changed enemy formatting, and varying buffs.
I'm wondering how well does this work in as with aven replacing lingsha? Still hope the def reduction occurs with both fugue's and the prayer's target's attacks
Hey V3 arrived can u do E2s1 acheron with sunday JQ and avent/lingsha thx in advanced (Also im curious of e2 fugue performance in E0s1 acheron with Jq and either avent/lingsha)
Need Fugue to have 100% adv forward/increased speed after casting skill. Its basically a waste of a turn, instead of doing more Toughness breaks or Debuff applications in that skill turn.
@kaiky_3821 But that's the problem, isn't it? Why the FRICK would a "Supposed Nihility class" still be doing Harmony stuffs like trying to WASTE an action trying to BUFF/Link with another unit.....instead of going directly at the enemies immediately applying all her DEBUFF kit as soon at the battle starts. Fugue could have broken Toughness Bars a bit faster, if she didn't waste her action "linking". She could be doing direct Blast attacks, similar to Jiaoqiu's...dealing alteast 2x Colorless Toughness Breaks and still gets her EBA after, so she isn't SP negative. Edit: And 100% action advance after doing her Skill Link is VERY HELPFUL in terms of her "Problematic ULT cost"....since it quickens her rotations to do her EBA immediately which is an instant 20-30 energy from EBasics. Like you haven't seen any Gallagher gameplay at all and how powerful an 100% Advance Forward is, when it comes to Rotations.
@@kaiky_3821 Skill Links, gets 100% Advance Forward immediately. Which leads to Quicker EBA rotations and easy 20-30 energy from EBA, thus reducing effectively the supposed "High Cost Ult". Haven't you guys seen Gallagher gameplay.....at all, in regards to his Ult Rotations?
@@JMike-bq6rlher ult cost is still really fucking high and it doesn’t solve the problem of doing nearly jack shit in most scenarios. Her skill should have the e1 included and a march hunt effect where she matches weakness type to the ally she chooses. Also ult cost unless changed to be more useful, should be lowered.
@@SUPERsourbum As I have said, Instead of wasting a turn trying to link in the first place, as a supposed "Nihility Class".... Fugue could have just do initial blast attacks similar to Jiaoqiu's skill...effectively reducing toughness bars "colorlessly" with 2x break efficiency or even deal direct break damage on her own, (if only her EBA and Ult scale with Break effect multipliers and if her traces weren't garbage)
It's Fugue's kit, the ally she buffs inflicts 18% def reduction when attacking, not stackable. Which is super low compared to Silver Wolf's 45-53% DEF reduction + 20% DMG RES down to the implanted element. Or Pela's 40% def reduction. Fugue inflicting DEF down is from her having Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat light cone, like you'd run on a Pela, for an extra 12% DEF down when she attacks. Which is gonna be her best cone along with Silver Wolf's sig if you wanna run her in an Acheron team (which, you honestly shouldn't since she's a superbreak enabler, but if you really can't wait for a sustain that can generate stacks, then it's decent. Gaining a tiny bit more stacks for a lower DEF reduction)
@@greenvega I mean superbreak scales off toughness reduction and Acheron's toughness reduction is not all that crazy, so at that point you might as well just use a break DPS character instead
@@BenBeckmane jiaoqiu also doesn't have good toughness reduction, but i used him on break effect build in AS on Sunday and he did 760k break dmg with ult, so at this point everything works, just need imagination
If they gave Fugue buff to Acheron, Acheron's skill would still only grant 2 stacks, since her light cone provides a debuff at the same time. Giving the buff to Lingsha means Lingsha's basics, skills, and follow-ups now have defense shred, which provides stacks for Acheron. Basically, extra action besides Tingyun using skill gives Acheron at least one stack.
So you are telling me the best character in the game is being held back because of that? Also it's not about applying Debuffs but how fast you apply it, Nihility characters are the best, with Boothill being right behind
Acheron gets access to Harmony-level buffs in her passive from just having Nihility units in the team + the debuffs like def down and vuls + flexible between spd and atk builds since she doesn't need to be fast if the supports are fast, she definitely gets more benefits to justify it, all other characters are also soft locked into needing specific units, it's just because Acheron clearly states it in her passive that people believe it's a con when it's not
@@NiaTheMilkTank JQ gives a lot to Acheron, more dmg, stacks, activates the passive, hell if you don't have JQ, am inclined to believe even Lil Gui or Pela will do better than RM, while still putting Fugue buff on the sustain (Lingsha/Gallagher/Aventurine)
Sorry but this is so stupid. You dont really generate additional Stacks for Acheron since you just trade the Person who apply Stacks and on the same Time also weaken Acheron.
you do generate more stacks, Fugue is on pearls LC, it means her attacks also generate stacks, so all allies attacks generate stacks here, and since Lingsha has FUAs, she generates the most, putting it on Aventurine will also work since he does a lot of FUAs especially against fast enemies like Hoolay
@@quockhanh5740 jeah call me ignorant but i dont need a full 5* Acheron Team to 3 Cycle MoC 😂 swap out Fugue for Pela and Acheron already clears way faster.
@@DantoriusD you're right but in your comment you said "You dont really generate additional Stacks for Acheron" which is wrong, there are scenarios where getting more "weaker" ults is better than getting less "stronger" ults, like in PF
“Hey let’s all be fire & not tell Acheron”
Acheron can be fire if you squint hard enough 👁️👄👁️
“Let’s all be Nihility and not tell Lingsha”
@@tidebringer4517That's like, literally every double Nihility team Acheron has
shes hot though
Acheron's pretty fire though so she checks out.
The stack generation is crazy
Let's all be Xianzhou and not tell acheron
Let's all be fire and not tell acheron
Let's all be nihility and not tell lingsha
Let's all be women and not tell Jiaoqiu
Let's all be on our first life and not tell tingyun
Let's all be released and not tell Fugue
@@ahmdmoadi to be fair that's going to change eventually
we need this with the v3 changes.
Lingsha go brrrr
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Breakeron is a real thing now. Acheron ult: colorless. Fugue ult: colorless. Fugue's tether: colorless. With Lingsha E1 (-DEF when broken) and Fugue S1 (+Vuln when broken), it's probably a pretty thicc gain in damage for Acheron whenever the enemy is downed. Not to mention exo-break. And because Fugue brings some superbreak, any BE% rolls on Acheron or JQ will be converted into useful damage. What a weird team.
This is truly a “Honkai: Acheron Rail” moment
maybe the real acheron rail were the friends we made along the way
I love you, I've been waiting so long for someone to make a video about Acheron and Fugue together
Now Gallagher can work better as well for Acheron, not only his Enhance Basic and Ultimate apply Debuff ; but with Fugue's skill, Gallagher's Normal Basic will also apply Debuff.
It is nice that the Debuff also work on Lingsha's Follow Up besides Basic, Skill and Ultimate, which will help stack Acheron's Ultimate faster.
Not really, Lingsha still fares better since Fuyuan acts more in exchange for natural Debuffing
Actually, if you have the multiply abundance lc, gallagher is the one that takes so much turns, even better you can always generate stacks fast with ult and 100 action adv.
The only cons is that he does not have full team cleanse@@kaiky_3821
@@kaiky_3821 I'm assuming they didn't imply that Gallagher has a better synergy with Fugue than Lingsha.
But that his performance will vastly improve in Archeron's teams with Fugue helping him generate stacks for Archeron with his basic attacks as well
@kaiky_3821 What I mean is that Fugue makes Gallagher better in Acheron team. Of course, Lingsha is now greater with Acheron since all her attacks can inflict Debuff with Fugue's skill, not forgetting Aventurine too (no need his S1 if Fugue skill).
I am glad we have more sustain options for Acheron, even Fire MC or Fu Xuan with Trend are viable even if not optimal. Although I am not sure if Trend can stack regardless of Jiaoqu stack.
@@FeuraL. Trend and Roast dont stack unless the enemy attacks two times in one action and hits the unit with trend👍
i love these "unorthodox" synergies that we find every time a new character comes out.
sure it may not be the "best" for clear-time/damage, but seeing it perform in its own way is pretty interesting.
cant wait to see what acheron + boothill + fugue + jiaoqiu/lingsha/gallagher would do 🤨
Fugue buff, the target when attacking puts defense reduction, and archeron gains charges with the allies that you put debuff, also lingsha and aventurine are additional attacks, it seems that they designed it so that fugue does not buff archeron but abundance / preservation
What? You're aware she's meant for break effect, right? HMC powercreep. She puts def debuffs, yeah, but she's not BiS for Acheron. Pretty sure Silver Wolf and maybe even Pela will still perform better.
@@BenBeckmanesw aged out of relevance like 3 patches ago.
@@Twigggggy Out of relevance and yet she is still better than Fugue for Acheron with a lot more defense reduction. 45% DEF down from ult, 8% DEF down from talent, and 20% DMG RES down to the type silver wolf implants.
Fugue is DEF down by 18% and that's it. Not stackable. She gives a crap ton of break effect and enables exo-toughness, yeah, but how does that matter on Acheron's debuff and crit build?
Also SW is literally BiS for an E0 Acheron's premium team with Jiaoqiu, over Pela, so... I don't really get your point... Silver Wolf is better than Fugue for Acheron in every way, Fugue is a superbreak enabler... Pulling Fugue for Acheron is like pulling Robin for Firefly, does it work...? Ehhh, a bit, I guess? Is it good? No xD
@@BenBeckmane you know all your points are well made
but fugue in this team seems like she would be better than a sw for a pure fiction team that runs e0 archeron
but like you said pela works fine in the role
of just feel sw is so weak now that so many characters either ignore toughness bar or have a build in implant element as a weakness
@@BenBeckmaneIt's 18% but can be higher if you use resolution LC. The main thing is that her buff makes anyone a debuff applicator. So Lingsha and Fuyuan now apply Debuffs. And SW is rather niche when you fight 3+ enemies. She's not useless but very fallen off
1:22 The fact that fugue ult didn't even kill that mob with that hp just shows how underwhelming that ult is for the animation, I really hope they lower the cost or add some debuff to it to make it more impactful
reminds me of fuxuan's ultimate😭. all that animation for 4k damage
@@Namei116 at least fu xuan's ult heals and refreshes her stacks...
@@tawnytawniyeah... thats not... alot..
She's a superbreak enabler and break buffer, cut her some slack 😭
She is NOT a crit character, she does no damage outside of break damage, she is NOT made for an Acheron team...
@@BenBeckmane yeah, but at the same time.. when i first checked her kit, i was FLABBERGASTED. Nothing on her ult, just damage? On a NIHILITY OF ALL TYPES?!
we can cut her some slack with her super break enable but.. Damn. Just wished her ult did SOMETHING, atleast like boost break effect, even if it's a tiny bit? Like seriously, I checked on info about her and I saw nothing special on her ult, just.. Fire damage, and that's it.
Fugue releases to buff superbreak ❌
Fugue releases to buff acheron ✅
Fugue releases to create superbreak acheron 🔥
if they make another enemy like hoolay, against them aventurine instead of lingsha is stonks
or just get aventurines lightcone and get the same result while not wasting a slot on fugue
@@joey-desu i rather pull fugue so i can still use my firefly/boothill on superbreak as well in the future if remembrance trailblazer is cracked
Wait this is actually genius
2:49 bonkers how lingsha gave acheron 3 stacks in 1 action
is no one going to talk about the 213 cd, 83cr 4100 atk and 112 speed acheron WITH CRIT RATE BODY?
Sounds like a dream stats
Glad someone tried this strat
It may or may not have higher damage per ult than her usual comps but the stack generation is so much better
Also, as a request, could you try a superbreak team with e1 fugue, harmony mc, firefly and e1 lingsha? Thanks again
I definitely wannna see Acheron with fugue and Sunday
Probably going to be rough on your skill point usage, though I guess that depends on who you use for a sustain.
Could we see comparisons with all 5 stars e0s0 for Jiaoqiu Pela vs Jiaoqiu Fugue vs Pela Fugue in an Acheron + sustain team? Would be really helpful to get an idea of how they all perform as a f2p
If they make any changes on V3 to Tingyun they should put the def shred on her in enhanced basic attack and put a damage buff on her skill and change the break effect to the weakness break efficiency.
So you want them to kill this Acheron Synergy?
@@Vekysus no that’s why I said move the def shred to her enhance basic she would still be able to give her stacks well also just flat out, giving her a damage boost.
Yeah, I think she needs to get some other debuff.
Ultra looks the best as it looks really useless.. so it would be nice to lower its cost or add a powerful debuff on it. After all, Fugue is nothingness, it's strange that all her passives only go towards buffing the team
@@frieza2013 cant do that because of resolution LC already doing that for her
@@Shin-gn7ng hm I’m sure it wouldn’t be op cause it would only be 18% like it is now
What about 160 spd Gallagher with multiplication
i’m expecting similar perfomance
"Gallagher with QPQ"
Quid pro quo is kinda useless or not as effective.
@@songvumail Who knows? Maybe that 16 energy from QPQ could be a factor for smoother Burst Rotations from Jiaoqiu, Pela or the Harmony units such as Robin, which leads to faster clears.
@@JMike-bq6rlis it possible, that QPQ 'on accident' gives Acheron the 16 energy, but since shes not on energy-type ultimate, the 16 energy just...yknow..gone?
I didnt watch carefully all the gameplay but it seem like at e0s0, with lingsha its pretty much the same cycle and time with aven. The gallagher showcase didnt put fugue skill on galllagher so cant compare. The pela instead of fugue one finish a bit earlier but its with jq e0s1. Overall pela give higher dmg for ache ult but slower stack generation. I think fugue could be a substitute on equal strength for pela
Still, robin is probably better than both
The difference of the s0 showcase is in the aven one, jiao is S1 and in the Lingsha one it's s0.
One cycle of difference
@@ChiNgo-u2nno difference in terms of cycles unless robin is e1 s1
She is about equal to Pela, weaker than Silver Wolf. BiS for E0 Acheron is Jiaoqiu + Silver Wolf (or Pela since nobody has Silver Wolf even though she IS better for Acheron), and Aventurine. Fugue is a superbreak enabler, her DEF reduction is super low, ALL of her other buffs are break/superbreak related. Putting Fugue with Acheron is like putting Robin with Firefly. Do you get bonus damage? Sure... Does it work together well...? Ehhhh... Not so much...
@@BenBeckmane The main thing about fugue is that aside from the break stuff she also allows another teammate to generate stacks with ANY of their attacks. Acheron also takes advantage of the break buffs because her ult is colorless.
Hell, the proof is in this video. Lingsha generates stacks super fast thanks to fugue buff, while also being able to be a break subdps due to superbreak (and after v3 she is colorless aswell)
gotta see a remake of this team with the new changes to Fugue! it should be even better
I wish to see Acheron with JQ and Sunday pls
"Oh great, now there are two of them!"
Could you make a Sunday VS Robin in a Acheron team? Thank you in advance
This is great! but bruh what the hell, they really made Svarong so tanky LOL
In an ideal Lingsha turn, she can give Acheron up to 5 stack in a single turn
Swap acheron to firefly for mono fire 🔥🔥🔥
Using Fugue skills on Aventurine/Lingsha/Gallagher/any sustain would be the best to add stack faster for Acheron..
Alright guys how does a Acheron E2S2/PELA E6S1/ aventurineE0S1 and Fugue E0S1 sound?
Looks OP and I like it
Help guys. I was thinking pull Acheron E2 and Aventurine's lightcone (my team is acheronE0S1,sparkleE0S1, JiaoqiuE0E0, aventurineE0S0), but Fugue ability in Aventurine makes like Aventurine E2S1, so... i dont know
If your acheron is already high invested then go for e2 bc it's an major upgrade and then go for Aventurine lc for additional debuff bc fugue is a good debuff but only for break teams tho yes u can make sub stats for break in acheron but that's up to u
Go for Acheron e2, and you only need jiaoqiu for that nihility spot.
Don't pull for anything until we get Tingyun V4. This is still V1, so her kit will 100% be changed, maybe even drastically.
@@Dado_nastro No this is V2
you probably need E2 if you're not running 2 Nihility
this is actually genius
What is this? SUPERBREAK Acheron INSANE
Can you do one with pela or gui instead of jq?
hope u can make some video Fugue + Acheron + 1 nihility (except Jiaoqiu)+ sustain
i want know without Jiao this team is still strong or not
Use Lil Gui for a full fire Xianzhou team.
Acheron , fugue , pela and Ghallgher?
Could you make a comparaison with Kafka Superbreak (with Ruan Mei + Lingsha) ?
To me, it seems like Kafka has much better synergy with superbreak in general (better Toughness dmg, better affinity with the Break Effect and Speed stats)
On the S0 run, there's no point in running Resolution on Both Jq and Fugue, since the Def shred doesnt stack. Would be better to run somehing else on either of them.
How about tutorial lc on jiaoqiu? Helps with his ehr while also giving him energy
@@daridon2483 Definitely better. Since Jq already applies debuffs on all his skills.
Can you do Fugue Herta JQ Acheron for the most chaotic PF team ever?
What if we replace Linhsha with Marth 7th Preservation with "A New Round of Shuffling" lightcone ? I know this team will struggle with sustain, but just think about it. Each time a unit attacks Marth 7, Archeron instantly gains not 1, but 2 stacks (up to 3 times per Marth 7th's turn). Do I overcook?
maybe you're cooking for pure fiction. but trend market lc doesn't stack with jiaoqiu's enemy tuen debuff. so with jiaoqiu in the team, the enemy will only gain the stack from march's fua
This can actually be good
That 1% killing me 😂😂
can you guys help me to understand how this thing work
ton of ult stack for acheron
acheron skill & sig lc
fugue resolution lc
jq ba skill ult
lingsha ba skill ult & fuyuan turn cause she apply debuff from fugue skill
enemy turn
from that footage she can ult twice every cycle
Can you try E0S1 Acheron, Jiaoqiu, Robin and a sustain?
Can you do: acheron, fugue, pela, gallegher pls?
This team is so juiced, thanks for the gameplay my guy. So basically, on average Fugue + Acheron teams should be taking around 2-3 cycles against current end game bosses. Definitely better than Pela, and probably better than Sparkle.
In your opinion, how do they stack up against Sunday and Robin?
Acheron can still 0 cycle with Pela with a good plan
@ In a regular comp? Not that I’ve seen. It’s probably possible with Eidolons/sustainless, but that’s a whole other ballpark.
@@bronben5479sparkle is weaker than pela for E0 Acheron, btw.
@@bronben5479idk what u have against sustainless runs, i can 1 try without dying clear with mediocre build acheron, cuz ruan help her break faster and increase her dmg, work better in at least most lighting weak scenario but still
@@greenvega i don’t have anything against sustainless runs, they are just an unreliable metric when trying to assess on a character’s pull value. It forces you to have high stat investment, specific pre-planned rotations, resets in case of bad RNG, and they often change from patch to patch due to evolving enemies, changed enemy formatting, and varying buffs.
I'm wondering how well does this work in as with aven replacing lingsha? Still hope the def reduction occurs with both fugue's and the prayer's target's attacks
Guys hear me out.. March7 preservation w/ trend LC + Fugue. You essentially get stacks from both lc + march counters up to 3x
plus emergency freeze which counts as debuff but is a counter play to M7 fua
Thing is trend and the counter would be taken as being in the same turn, so it would only give you one stack instead of two.
U cant stack it dude😂
@@sgnomiya.odidi1362 aww mann i thought i was cooking 😭
Now all I'm waiting on is a Sunday, Topaz, Aventurine, Robin comp
Another team that critLingsha would perform well
woah 🙀
can u do this again?? but this time on v3
Hey V3 arrived can u do E2s1 acheron with sunday JQ and avent/lingsha thx in advanced
(Also im curious of e2 fugue performance in E0s1 acheron with Jq and either avent/lingsha)
It's fugue lc worth to gacha??
Fugue compared to Robin, who does better in Acheron teams (at any eidolon)?
please could u make again with v3 fugue?
Need Fugue to have 100% adv forward/increased speed after casting skill.
Its basically a waste of a turn, instead of doing more Toughness breaks or Debuff applications in that skill turn.
Are you special? It's a buff, like most buffers, it buffs and that's it. The real waste is her ult, it barely does anything and it's too expensive
@kaiky_3821 But that's the problem, isn't it?
Why the FRICK would a "Supposed Nihility class" still be doing Harmony stuffs like trying to WASTE an action trying to BUFF/Link with another unit.....instead of going directly at the enemies immediately applying all her DEBUFF kit as soon at the battle starts.
Fugue could have broken Toughness Bars a bit faster, if she didn't waste her action "linking".
She could be doing direct Blast attacks, similar to Jiaoqiu's...dealing alteast 2x Colorless Toughness Breaks and still gets her EBA after, so she isn't SP negative.
Edit: And 100% action advance after doing her Skill Link is VERY HELPFUL in terms of her "Problematic ULT cost"....since it quickens her rotations to do her EBA immediately which is an instant 20-30 energy from EBasics.
Like you haven't seen any Gallagher gameplay at all and how powerful an 100% Advance Forward is, when it comes to Rotations.
@@kaiky_3821 Skill Links, gets 100% Advance Forward immediately.
Which leads to Quicker EBA rotations and easy 20-30 energy from EBA, thus reducing effectively the supposed "High Cost Ult".
Haven't you guys seen Gallagher gameplay.....at all, in regards to his Ult Rotations?
@@JMike-bq6rlher ult cost is still really fucking high and it doesn’t solve the problem of doing nearly jack shit in most scenarios. Her skill should have the e1 included and a march hunt effect where she matches weakness type to the ally she chooses. Also ult cost unless changed to be more useful, should be lowered.
@@SUPERsourbum As I have said, Instead of wasting a turn trying to link in the first place, as a supposed "Nihility Class"....
Fugue could have just do initial blast attacks similar to Jiaoqiu's skill...effectively reducing toughness bars "colorlessly" with 2x break efficiency or even deal direct break damage on her own,
(if only her EBA and Ult scale with Break effect multipliers and if her traces weren't garbage)
Just do hybrid E2 Acheron atp
Why does Fugue apply DEF shred and a debuff at 2:34?
The light cone she is using is the reason!
wait, i dont know what skill does, im dumb. can someone explain
What if you put Ruan Mei instead of Jiaoqiu?
Leaning more towards extending the break for added Superbreak damage than just normal damage from Acheron
does fuge's ult no generate a charge for acheron? 3:07
You saw that one comment I made didn’t you?
where the hell those DEF Reduction from Fugue and Lingsha's attacks came from? is it Fugue's innate ability?
It's Fugue's kit, the ally she buffs inflicts 18% def reduction when attacking, not stackable. Which is super low compared to Silver Wolf's 45-53% DEF reduction + 20% DMG RES down to the implanted element. Or Pela's 40% def reduction.
Fugue inflicting DEF down is from her having Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat light cone, like you'd run on a Pela, for an extra 12% DEF down when she attacks. Which is gonna be her best cone along with Silver Wolf's sig if you wanna run her in an Acheron team (which, you honestly shouldn't since she's a superbreak enabler, but if you really can't wait for a sustain that can generate stacks, then it's decent. Gaining a tiny bit more stacks for a lower DEF reduction)
@@BenBeckmanereplacing acheron with ruan and it's actually busted superbreak team, what will clear faster:)
@@greenvega I mean superbreak scales off toughness reduction and Acheron's toughness reduction is not all that crazy, so at that point you might as well just use a break DPS character instead
@@BenBeckmane jiaoqiu also doesn't have good toughness reduction, but i used him on break effect build in AS on Sunday and he did 760k break dmg with ult, so at this point everything works, just need imagination
Can u play acheron premium team with all e0s1
i believe resolutions should still be better than fugues signature for this team
fugue's ult doesnt apply debuff??😭
It does
Why when you attack with Lingsha (basic attacks) it generates charges? Is it because of Fugue?
Yes.
Can fugue play with dot team ?
I'm quite curious on why u didn't put fugue break buff on acheron ?
I guess because Lingsha benefits more from break-related effects since she’s thought to be in a break based team
@Laef_dream fair enough
It's also because it lets Lingsha debuff on basic
@ Right, so one more stack for Acheron
If they gave Fugue buff to Acheron, Acheron's skill would still only grant 2 stacks, since her light cone provides a debuff at the same time. Giving the buff to Lingsha means Lingsha's basics, skills, and follow-ups now have defense shred, which provides stacks for Acheron. Basically, extra action besides Tingyun using skill gives Acheron at least one stack.
Is it bad for using fugue skill on acheron
Wouldnt gallagher provide 1 more stack (even with her sig lc, gallagher can use it too)
No
He doesn’t attack as often when compared to Lingsha + Fuyuan
Am i trippin cuz your achreon relics stats are
Oh you use Atk planar instead of Lightning boost.
Is fugue S1 worth it?
We are witnessing the rise of super break acheron
can you 0 cycle?
Nah I'd win
With eidolons it could be possible
Acheron needing Nihility unit is actually crippling her, especially when we have units that can apply debuffs without them being a Nihility unit.
So you are telling me the best character in the game is being held back because of that? Also it's not about applying Debuffs but how fast you apply it, Nihility characters are the best, with Boothill being right behind
Himeko is one of the top debuff appliers too @@Vekysus
@@dankmeimes4274 depends on breaking, definitely one of the best batteries for Acheron in PF, but not as reliable in other content
Acheron gets access to Harmony-level buffs in her passive from just having Nihility units in the team + the debuffs like def down and vuls + flexible between spd and atk builds since she doesn't need to be fast if the supports are fast, she definitely gets more benefits to justify it, all other characters are also soft locked into needing specific units, it's just because Acheron clearly states it in her passive that people believe it's a con when it's not
Never seen E6 Asta doing 3 basic attacks, burn rotation before?
did her v3 dropped?
3 hours 36 min left
Is this v3 fugue ?
Nope
Can you replace Jiao with RM in this exact same comp? Fugue buff probably to RM so she can at least do debuffs on basic attack idk
And then you do 0 damage per Acheron ult
@oliveratom5957 that's why I'm asking, cause I want to see the numbers
Jiaoqiu is a must for acheron
@@NiaTheMilkTank JQ gives a lot to Acheron, more dmg, stacks, activates the passive, hell if you don't have JQ, am inclined to believe even Lil Gui or Pela will do better than RM, while still putting Fugue buff on the sustain (Lingsha/Gallagher/Aventurine)
@@NiaTheMilkTankit would be awful lol
Looks pretty mid. Fugue gives NOTHING for acheron being a stack bot😆.
midsha
Sorry but this is so stupid. You dont really generate additional Stacks for Acheron since you just trade the Person who apply Stacks and on the same Time also weaken Acheron.
you do generate more stacks, Fugue is on pearls LC, it means her attacks also generate stacks, so all allies attacks generate stacks here, and since Lingsha has FUAs, she generates the most, putting it on Aventurine will also work since he does a lot of FUAs especially against fast enemies like Hoolay
ignorance at its peak
@@quockhanh5740 jeah call me ignorant but i dont need a full 5* Acheron Team to 3 Cycle MoC 😂 swap out Fugue for Pela and Acheron already clears way faster.
@@DantoriusDThe showcase were never meant to be optimal anyway. Just do what you want with your team.
@@DantoriusD you're right but in your comment you said "You dont really generate additional Stacks for Acheron" which is wrong, there are scenarios where getting more "weaker" ults is better than getting less "stronger" ults, like in PF
wonder if you could try these without jiaoqiu? cause yknow, a bunch of people skipped him lol