i just did my carbs last night, i noticed my needle didn't have any slots to adjust the c-clip and they already had 1 spacer. i added 2 more to each needle. im hoping i got this correct, after reading some of the comments i feel like i need to remove 1 shim from each carb. very informative, thanks for the good work.
I really appreciate this whole series. Just got my hands on my first project bike which is the vs800 intruder and I’ll be using these videos as a reference when putting my bike back together. Cheers!
Very informative, detailed, and professional. Thank you! Look forward to more as well as the tuning process. If I could hit the 'thumbs up' twice, I would!
3 года назад+1
Thanks J Lu! Most appreciated. The tuning videos will be following later this week :) Happy new year to you!
Perfect timing. I will be working on my carbs in a few days. The Intruder I recently bought is running super-rich. I will try to install smaller jets. Thank you so much !!!
After all this time came and revisited the video, and reading the comments find out that you are using 145/155.... I wonder why my bike is burning so rich, I have 170/180. I need to get to work again.
Just a heads up there is an even easier way to get to the a/f screws. Use self tappers then they pull right out without damaging the screw head. It can even be done with the carbs on the bike. I left my carbs on and did it with self tappers and was adjusting and riding in 5 mins. If your doing a full tear down then follow this video if not use self tappers you’ll be much faster and much easier
@ im trying to get the mix right just by jets alone. worked wonderfully for my tw200. im just going to have to tweak and keep trying. im amazed at anyone running the 190 jet lol its big as hell
When you installed your new main jet sizes 180 in rear and 170 in the front , did the bike run like it should with the 2" cobra pips or did you have to do more changes with the jets ?? Thank you for your time ...
Had to make additional changes over a few months. I'm now running smaller main jets as it was running rich. Now I'm on Mikuni Jets, front 150, rear 155 and this seems to be working well.
I only put a stage 1 jet kit on my 1400 and removed my baffles in my cobra drag pipes and running k&n filters (no pods) and my bike pops a little but not bad. Any suggestions? Should I get a higher stage jet kit? Or do I just adjust my mixture screw. Then again my bike has sat for a while. Mine is a 1987 Suzuki intruder 1400
Thank you for showing the build. Very helpful. I Plan on installing jets on my bike soon, Questions. Where is the AF mixture caps located on both carbs? Where to buy carb rebuild kits. I have trouble finding kits. Thanks 👍
@Hagar Moto - Intruder Viking ma man.... on a cleaning i removed the plastic vacuum piece with the needle and reinserted it, it didnt fit so i pushed down in place. now the right exhaust sounds bad and the engine lose power..... can i fix this and did i perhaps brake something? i will prolly disassemble the whole thing and check the carb to be sure. thanks for the great videos
Question rebuilt 13 The front carburator did you acculity change pilot jet,i whatc you tack out pilot 52,5 and put The same pilot back , did i understand right?
good night excellent your channel I hope you meet a question my intruder 1400 the front piston does not work as if it did not inject gasoline but it does and it does not work until it is already hot we already synchronized the carburetors but it remains the same when it is cold can you help me with some tip Thank you
What is the purpose of drilling out the slide? I have a factory Pro kit makes no mention of drilling out the slide having a nightmare getting bike to run well through out the rev range🤔
I wonder why only the front pilot jet? I am myself also in this position installed stage kit 3.And k&n pods and aftermarket exhaust. The a/f srews are now almost 4-5 full turns out 😏 the kit came with 150 and 155 main jet only. Huge difference if you ask me(you got 170/180)I wonder how you bike will run man. Cannot wait for more info . Good luck 👍
3 года назад+2
Only the front as the rear was rich out of the factory my friend ;) I'm looking forward to test riding her as well brother! It has been FAR TOO LONG
What happens if the needle gets bent? Any way to fix it?
2 года назад+1
Afraid not Kicker. I mean technically you could "straighten" it but you'll never be able to get your tuning, reliably right with it. For the sake of a few dollars, might be worth investing in a new one.
Just some suggestions, you guys are overdoing it, thats whats causing your poor running conditions Put in your exhaust or air filters and RUN THE BIKE dont make any change from stock see how the bike is running and adjust from there This bike comes with 125 and 140 main jets, for the time being forget about needles and pilot jets Make sure you can get to the mixture screw whether you put in exhausts or air filters start slowly with main jets, go up in either 2.5 or 5 increments, start with the mixture screw 1.5 turns out and go from there Good channel, nice work
What dipstick oil termometer you recommend!? I yust did a stage 1 jet kit from SIGMA on my boulevard 1400 2008g., i debafled the exhaust and put on k&n filters. On Front carb i have put 140 main jet and 52.5 pilot jet, and on the rear is 155 main jet. And drilled the slides with 7/64 inch drill bit. It runs good after, and in couple of days i will do the sync. Your video helped a lot. lots of greetings from Croatia.
@@markovlastelicalav3569 Thanks for the reply and glad it's running good from the start but I wondered what you changed the rear carby pilot jet to? 52.5 or did you leave it standard as your first message mentioned a 52.5 pilot on the front carby. Thanks for your advice.
New to carb work! After watching this, Do I get this right that if I want to know what I have for a set up I have to rip it apart? Or are there clue’s ?
3 года назад+1
Afraid so brother. Although if you bought the bike with aftermarket exhaust, there is always a chance someone has played with jetting prior to you. ;)
@ yes cobra’s both on one side, original air box. The mixer screws are showing as well. I was afraid of that! I might get new air intakes then have a look!
Where did you find the cobra pipes? Been looking for some of them for my vs600 but I cant find yhem in the uk, plenty in the us but I dont fancy paying £100 plus for import tax and what not
2 года назад
I'm not sure the 600 cobra pipes are available here in the UK anymore my friend
So I put pod filters on my 2003 vs1400 and now it won’t idle? If I add throttle it runs but does if I let off Is this a possible jetting issue?
2 года назад
Yes, so because you have increased the amount of air going into the system by adding pods, you now need to up the jets to compensate. If you are keen to have pods, be prepared for a long process of finding what works. Go with factory pro stage 3 (pink) kit as a starting point
@ what do you mean by (pink) kit. I found the factory pro but don’t see anything about pink? Sorry to be dumb! Also found the rear carb to be fouling the plug?
2 года назад+1
They do 2 kits, one has a pink/red sleeve of paper in the top of the box, this is the "stage 3" kit. If rear plug keeps fouling its running rich
I know this might be a stupid question, but I have a VS800 and was wondering if this stage 3 kit will work on my bike?
3 года назад+1
Hey Nick, hope you are good. So Jetting all comes down the physicalities of the engine/air flow/exhaust system/carbs etc. You will likely be able to install a stage 3 jet kit, but the jet sizes will likely be different to that of a 1400. The carbs, to my knowledge, on an 800 are smaller than the 14 and there for require a different ratio of fuel/air etc. I would look into DynoJet Kits and see if you can find one for the 800. Best of luck brother!
Did you put the carbs back in the bike? I have to do this next time I am at the house, I have custom sister exhaust and is not working properly. Also, what the hole in the diaphragm does?
PLEASE HELP! How did you determine which pod filets to get for this kit? Bought mine with a stage 2 jet kit if I’m not mistaken. Still has box and filters. Do I need to get an 02 sensor to make sure the fuel/air ratio is correct after? If so what should that number be.I don’t want to buy the wrong size or brand and mess the mix up. Thank you!
Год назад+1
Hi Mark. Before you do any jetting work, it really is important that you understand that there isn't really a one size fits all approach. No matter what you end up installing, chances are you'll have to make numerous changes and adjustments to jet sizes and fuel mixture to get it about right. But if you are dead set on doing this, then the filters need to be a snug fit on the mouths of the carbs and of a high quality brand such as KandN or DNA. Fuel mixture sensor is worth doing if you want a reliable way of knowing if its lean or rich but I haven't personally added one of these myself so I can't advise on what to get. May the motoGods smile on you during this mod.
@- Hey thanks for getting back to me. Love the videos! I bought the bike with the jets done by the original owner so I’m committed at this point. But that kinda gives me an idea. There is no set pod filter for a jet kit. Just use what works. Test accordingly. Make adjustment as needed. Thanks for the help.
Hello, I have 2002 intruder 1400, aftermarket pipes, KN filters, and I recently installed jet kit complete with new idler jet (one carb only) When I syncroed the carbs, they were out a country mile, would barely run to get them set. I got them balanced at idle (starts and idles great) and got them balanced around 2k rpm. When taking for test run, anything over 1/2 throttle its spits, spudders and won't really respond till i back off. Suggestions? Do I need to move the location of needles? up?down? I"m in Calgary alberta so have high elevation - around 3500 ft ish Any help would be appreciated, thanks Quentin
What jet sizes are you running in the carbs? Have you inspected and set the floats accordingly? Have you inspected valve clearence? ,,,,,Get back to me and we can go from there
Thanks for responding. I put 145 jet in front and 155 in rear. As I’m reviewing this again, I have needles that can adjust the clip- now starting to wonder if I moved them towards the needle or towards the end. Also thinking I may have added a shim. Looks like I’ll need to take them out as I didn’t snap a pic when I moved them. Any best guess what they should be set at? No, I didn’t adjust the floats, or valves, inspected and seemed ok so left them. Thanks Quentin
@@quentinpatten7573 The further you put the clip on the needle down makes the mixture more rich,,,,try putting the clip in the middle and remove the shim, youll have to play with the jets to see which will work for you, it hard to say if you are lean or rich at this point, have a peek at the plugs,,,you wont have to do vlave adj on a 1400 as they are self adjusting,,,make sure the floats are set properly,,,,if you still have the stock needles you can try to put those back in, just make one change at a time
Simply excellent production and crystal clear steps. So glad there is somebody doing this for these bikes.
Glad it easy to follow brother!
i just did my carbs last night, i noticed my needle didn't have any slots to adjust the c-clip and they already had 1 spacer. i added 2 more to each needle. im hoping i got this correct, after reading some of the comments i feel like i need to remove 1 shim from each carb. very informative, thanks for the good work.
I really appreciate this whole series. Just got my hands on my first project bike which is the vs800 intruder and I’ll be using these videos as a reference when putting my bike back together. Cheers!
Very informative, detailed, and professional. Thank you! Look forward to more as well as the tuning process. If I could hit the 'thumbs up' twice, I would!
Thanks J Lu! Most appreciated. The tuning videos will be following later this week :) Happy new year to you!
@ Happy New Years bud!
Perfect timing. I will be working on my carbs in a few days. The Intruder I recently bought is running super-rich. I will try to install smaller jets. Thank you so much !!!
Good luck! and you are welcome :)
After all this time came and revisited the video, and reading the comments find out that you are using 145/155.... I wonder why my bike is burning so rich, I have 170/180. I need to get to work again.
Just a heads up there is an even easier way to get to the a/f screws. Use self tappers then they pull right out without damaging the screw head. It can even be done with the carbs on the bike. I left my carbs on and did it with self tappers and was adjusting and riding in 5 mins. If your doing a full tear down then follow this video if not use self tappers you’ll be much faster and much easier
Great tip Mr Skunk! Thanks!
I enjoy your detailed videos they have helped me greatly with my vs800 I’m glad these bike are so similar
Thanks for this video! Im gonna do this myself also soon!
You're welcome brother! Thanks for joining the Live chat tonight, best of luck with your jet kit ;) lol
i went with 2.5 points up on each main and went to 140 front and 150 main rear. boggs on top end. these bad boys take skill to jet right
Did you try adjusting the needle height?
@ im trying to get the mix right just by jets alone. worked wonderfully for my tw200. im just going to have to tweak and keep trying. im amazed at anyone running the 190 jet lol its big as hell
As usual excellent video!!!
Thanks Bennie! Happy new year!
@ Thx mate, Mrs Hagar and you have a happy new year too!
Do you have a video on syncing the carbs?
THX 👍👍👍
When you installed your new main jet sizes 180 in rear and 170 in the front , did the bike run like it should with the 2" cobra pips or did you have to do more changes with the jets ?? Thank you for your time ...
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Had to make additional changes over a few months. I'm now running smaller main jets as it was running rich. Now I'm on Mikuni Jets, front 150, rear 155 and this seems to be working well.
How many shims/notches are you running on your needle?
I only put a stage 1 jet kit on my 1400 and removed my baffles in my cobra drag pipes and running k&n filters (no pods) and my bike pops a little but not bad. Any suggestions? Should I get a higher stage jet kit? Or do I just adjust my mixture screw. Then again my bike has sat for a while. Mine is a 1987 Suzuki intruder 1400
Um.. You alright brother? Looking for updated videos and not seeing any..
Hope all's well!
Thank you for showing the build. Very helpful. I Plan on installing jets on my bike soon, Questions.
Where is the AF mixture caps located on both carbs?
Where to buy carb rebuild kits. I have trouble finding kits.
Thanks 👍
They are on the outside of the carbs my friend.
Thanks
Hi have you got a link for stage 3 kit ?please
@Hagar Moto - Intruder Viking ma man.... on a cleaning i removed the plastic vacuum piece with the needle and reinserted it, it didnt fit so i pushed down in place. now the right exhaust sounds bad and the engine lose power..... can i fix this and did i perhaps brake something? i will prolly disassemble the whole thing and check the carb to be sure. thanks for the great videos
hi do you now the ps. after
Is there a link to buy the carburetors. I can't find them in Amazon
Question rebuilt 13 The front carburator did you acculity change pilot jet,i whatc you tack out pilot 52,5 and put The same pilot back , did i understand
right?
good night
excellent your channel
I hope you meet
a question my intruder 1400 the front piston does not work as if it did not inject gasoline but it does and it does not work until it is already hot
we already synchronized the carburetors but it remains the same when it is cold
can you help me with some tip
Thank you
What is the purpose of drilling out the slide? I have a factory Pro kit makes no mention of drilling out the slide having a nightmare getting bike to run well through out the rev range🤔
I wonder why only the front pilot jet? I am myself also in this position installed stage kit 3.And k&n pods and aftermarket exhaust. The a/f srews are now almost 4-5 full turns out 😏 the kit came with 150 and 155 main jet only. Huge difference if you ask me(you got 170/180)I wonder how you bike will run man. Cannot wait for more info . Good luck 👍
Only the front as the rear was rich out of the factory my friend ;) I'm looking forward to test riding her as well brother! It has been FAR TOO LONG
@ yeah. Looking forward to it man💪
What happens if the needle gets bent? Any way to fix it?
Afraid not Kicker. I mean technically you could "straighten" it but you'll never be able to get your tuning, reliably right with it. For the sake of a few dollars, might be worth investing in a new one.
@ that's kinda what I thought much appreciated I'll order a new one today
Where did u purchase these parts from and can u give me the part numbers thank you
Just some suggestions, you guys are overdoing it, thats whats causing your poor running conditions
Put in your exhaust or air filters and RUN THE BIKE dont make any change from stock see how the bike is running and adjust from there
This bike comes with 125 and 140 main jets, for the time being forget about needles and pilot jets
Make sure you can get to the mixture screw
whether you put in exhausts or air filters start slowly with main jets, go up in either 2.5 or 5 increments, start with the mixture screw 1.5 turns out and go from there
Good channel, nice work
Do you remove your Stock air filter boxes when you are drivning with these filters?
Yes, you have to
What dipstick oil termometer you recommend!?
I yust did a stage 1 jet kit from SIGMA on my boulevard 1400 2008g., i debafled the exhaust and put on k&n filters. On Front carb i have put 140 main jet and 52.5 pilot jet, and on the rear is 155 main jet. And drilled the slides with 7/64 inch drill bit. It runs good after, and in couple of days i will do the sync. Your video helped a lot. lots of greetings from Croatia.
Hi, what pilot jet did you use on the rear carby and did you get it to run right with that combination?? Thanks
@@caprilover6391 it is all written in my text. It was running ok from the second I installed it
@@markovlastelicalav3569
Thanks for the reply and glad it's running good from the start but I wondered what you changed the rear carby pilot jet to? 52.5 or did you leave it standard as your first message mentioned a 52.5 pilot on the front carby. Thanks for your advice.
New to carb work! After watching this, Do I get this right that if I want to know what I have for a set up I have to rip it apart? Or are there clue’s ?
Afraid so brother. Although if you bought the bike with aftermarket exhaust, there is always a chance someone has played with jetting prior to you. ;)
@ yes cobra’s both on one side, original air box. The mixer screws are showing as well. I was afraid of that! I might get new air intakes then have a look!
Where did you find the cobra pipes? Been looking for some of them for my vs600 but I cant find yhem in the uk, plenty in the us but I dont fancy paying £100 plus for import tax and what not
I'm not sure the 600 cobra pipes are available here in the UK anymore my friend
@they dont seem to do much for the 600 anywhere that Ive seen, they only made them for 2/3 years
So I put pod filters on my 2003 vs1400 and now it won’t idle? If I add throttle it runs but does if I let off Is this a possible jetting issue?
Yes, so because you have increased the amount of air going into the system by adding pods, you now need to up the jets to compensate. If you are keen to have pods, be prepared for a long process of finding what works. Go with factory pro stage 3 (pink) kit as a starting point
@ what do you mean by (pink) kit. I found the factory pro but don’t see anything about pink? Sorry to be dumb! Also found the rear carb to be fouling the plug?
They do 2 kits, one has a pink/red sleeve of paper in the top of the box, this is the "stage 3" kit.
If rear plug keeps fouling its running rich
@ awesome thank you sir. I really appreciate your help!!
So do you have to resync the carbs after this
Yes you do brother.
I know this might be a stupid question, but I have a VS800 and was wondering if this stage 3 kit will work on my bike?
Hey Nick, hope you are good. So Jetting all comes down the physicalities of the engine/air flow/exhaust system/carbs etc. You will likely be able to install a stage 3 jet kit, but the jet sizes will likely be different to that of a 1400. The carbs, to my knowledge, on an 800 are smaller than the 14 and there for require a different ratio of fuel/air etc. I would look into DynoJet Kits and see if you can find one for the 800. Best of luck brother!
@ Thanks for the info! I’ve been looking into it and so far I’ve only been able to find a stage 1 kit online for it. So I might be out of luck haha
Olá irmão! Estou no brasil e tenho uma vs1400 ano 99! Gostaria de saber no que muda esse furo que vc refez na peça do carburador ? Obrigado
Any updates on rideability? Were the jets correct?
They worked but just a tad too rich, I have dropped in size a few times now and have landed on 155 rear, 145 front
@ what about power?
Did you put the carbs back in the bike?
I have to do this next time I am at the house, I have custom sister exhaust and is not working properly.
Also, what the hole in the diaphragm does?
PLEASE HELP! How did you determine which pod filets to get for this kit? Bought mine with a stage 2 jet kit if I’m not mistaken. Still has box and filters. Do I need to get an 02 sensor to make sure the fuel/air ratio is correct after? If so what should that number be.I don’t want to buy the wrong size or brand and mess the mix up. Thank you!
Hi Mark. Before you do any jetting work, it really is important that you understand that there isn't really a one size fits all approach. No matter what you end up installing, chances are you'll have to make numerous changes and adjustments to jet sizes and fuel mixture to get it about right. But if you are dead set on doing this, then the filters need to be a snug fit on the mouths of the carbs and of a high quality brand such as KandN or DNA. Fuel mixture sensor is worth doing if you want a reliable way of knowing if its lean or rich but I haven't personally added one of these myself so I can't advise on what to get.
May the motoGods smile on you during this mod.
@- Hey thanks for getting back to me. Love the videos!
I bought the bike with the jets done by the original owner so I’m committed at this point. But that kinda gives me an idea. There is no set pod filter for a jet kit. Just use what works. Test accordingly. Make adjustment as needed. Thanks for the help.
What jet kit is it trying to find it
I'd recommend going with factory pro
Hello, I have 2002 intruder 1400, aftermarket pipes, KN filters, and I recently installed jet kit complete with new idler jet (one carb only) When I syncroed the carbs, they were out a country mile, would barely run to get them set. I got them balanced at idle (starts and idles great) and got them balanced around 2k rpm. When taking for test run, anything over 1/2 throttle its spits, spudders and won't really respond till i back off. Suggestions? Do I need to move the location of needles? up?down?
I"m in Calgary alberta so have high elevation - around 3500 ft ish
Any help would be appreciated, thanks Quentin
What jet sizes are you running in the carbs? Have you inspected and set the floats accordingly? Have you inspected valve clearence? ,,,,,Get back to me and we can go from there
Thanks for responding. I put 145 jet in front and 155 in rear. As I’m reviewing this again, I have needles that can adjust the clip- now starting to wonder if I moved them towards the needle or towards the end. Also thinking I may have added a shim. Looks like I’ll need to take them out as I didn’t snap a pic when I moved them. Any best guess what they should be set at?
No, I didn’t adjust the floats, or valves, inspected and seemed ok so left them.
Thanks
Quentin
@@quentinpatten7573 The further you put the clip on the needle down makes the mixture more rich,,,,try putting the clip in the middle and remove the shim, youll have to play with the jets to see which will work for you, it hard to say if you are lean or rich at this point, have a peek at the plugs,,,you wont have to do vlave adj on a 1400 as they are self adjusting,,,make sure the floats are set properly,,,,if you still have the stock needles you can try to put those back in, just make one change at a time
If this makes the fuel economy worse than its a no for me ill stick to stock jetting the small 13L tank barely gets me 180klms as is lolz🤣