The Lagrangian

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  • Опубликовано: 20 янв 2025

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  • @flomoose7315
    @flomoose7315 2 года назад +68

    This man is bringing me single handedly through my economics undergraduate degree!!! Keep it up and thank you!

  • @Rubikorigami
    @Rubikorigami 8 лет назад +1076

    Wait... Could it be... 3Blue1Brown?!

  • @Vaibhav101
    @Vaibhav101 6 лет назад +113

    Perhaps the best explanation on the Internet. Thanks 3B1B !

    • @andeslam7370
      @andeslam7370 4 года назад +3

      can't agree more....

    • @sjoerd7512
      @sjoerd7512 2 года назад +5

      Is this actually 3Blue1Brown??

    • @universal69
      @universal69 2 года назад +5

      ​@@sjoerd7512 yes he worked with khan academy

  • @NoahTopper
    @NoahTopper 3 года назад +15

    I just...can't believe that I took a whole course in Optimization and nobody ever told me this is where the Lagrangian comes from. It's so clear.

    • @borninthenorthMi
      @borninthenorthMi 3 года назад +3

      Well, I guess they had to take this part out to make room for the course in deconstructionist critical-race mathematics. Universities have become a straight-up scam.

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 3 года назад +9

      @@borninthenorthMi it is ok, michalina. you will go to a decent university someday

    • @borninthenorthMi
      @borninthenorthMi 3 года назад

      @@98danielray name one

    • @jasonports8517
      @jasonports8517 3 года назад +5

      @@borninthenorthMi CRT in maths? nice meme

  • @RaviShankar-jm1qw
    @RaviShankar-jm1qw Год назад +10

    Arguably the best explanation of Lagrangian on the internet! Thanks @Khan Academy!

  • @WigglyHedgehog
    @WigglyHedgehog 7 лет назад +38

    The usefulness of the Lagrangian equation is not only because it's easier to program into a computer. The lambda can also be interpreted as the amount that R(x,y) would increase if the constant b in the constraint function could be relaxed by one unit. That can also be explained given only the geometric setup, but it's a little easier to calculate it given the Lagrangian.

    • @rokarus7658
      @rokarus7658 5 лет назад +3

      This also justifies its usage in economics - marginal propensity to save and to consune are the bedrock for Keynesian (read: modern) economics.

  • @vambire02
    @vambire02 3 года назад +6

    Very clear and concise explanation. Thanks a lot. I had the lagrange function in many courses at college but this is the first time I fully understand the concept behind it.

  • @joezhang2633
    @joezhang2633 7 лет назад +113

    Awesome explanations! I've been struggling to figure this out for 3 years in my Ph.D. and this is the best one!

    • @hichamboukharsa1639
      @hichamboukharsa1639 4 года назад +1

      Could you explain me why lambda not equal to 1? Is shouldn't be 1 because the gradient is calculated for the same point (tangent)
      Thnx

    • @anmol.sharma010
      @anmol.sharma010 4 года назад +6

      @@hichamboukharsa1639 lambda could be 1 and it could not be. But there is no guarantee. And yes the gradient is being calculated at the same point, but we are calculating the gradient with respect to two separate functions and then equating the two. The two gradients will be proportional and in order to remove the proportionality, we add lambda(a constant). If It is still unclear, see the previous video on lagrangian multipliers. Hope this helps!

    • @harisrashid0773
      @harisrashid0773 2 года назад

      And our mad processor is teaching us this in bachelors electronics and communication engineering here in India.

    • @Kentucky_Fried_Man
      @Kentucky_Fried_Man 2 года назад +1

      @@harisrashid0773 Same, Economics

    • @Kentucky_Fried_Man
      @Kentucky_Fried_Man 2 года назад +3

      Hope you got your Ph. D

  • @moussatouhami7567
    @moussatouhami7567 8 лет назад +4

    hi khan family ,i'm very happy to find your videos on the internet free and very comfortable to watch your videos it's help me so much and we need more video about electromagnetism circuits magnetic (hyper circuits&circuits composite..& Coils ...)

  • @zachmiles3433
    @zachmiles3433 Год назад +1

    Khan academy is the GOAT of mathematical/physics topics!

  • @eughyuck
    @eughyuck 3 года назад +3

    Thank you! I have this issue in lectures where I frequently zone-out/forget to turn up so I appreciate your thorough clear explanation which leaves no knowledge gaps :)

  • @luiskraker807
    @luiskraker807 Год назад +2

    I was struggeling a bit with understanding the concept of Lagrangian, but this videos of you helped me a lot. Thanks!

  • @danielc4267
    @danielc4267 8 лет назад +69

    3:06 "why is lambda so hard to draw?" lol

  • @silverlining6824
    @silverlining6824 3 года назад +5

    Turning some calculus into geometry is helpful to those who visualize. Thank you!

  • @principaljpnce9802
    @principaljpnce9802 4 года назад +3

    Simplest way of explaining the most complicated looking concept. Hats off to you Sir 👌👌👌

  • @peterfisher3161
    @peterfisher3161 4 года назад +3

    I just clicked on this video, because I trust Khan Academy as a knowledge source. But Grant was a welcome surprise.

  • @Chalisque
    @Chalisque 7 лет назад +26

    The art of creatively adding zero: B(x,y)=4 means B(x,y)-4 = 0 means lambda(B(x,y)-4) = 0 means R(x,y) - lambda(B(x,y)-4) = R(x,y) provided the constraint holds. So lambda only has an effect when the constraint does not hold. Minimising the magnitude of influence of lambda (i.e. how much effect changing lambda has) is equivalent to making that influence zero (since influence=0 can be attained when the constraint is), and making that influence zero for nonzero lambda means obeying the constraint. I always enjoy cleverness like this in mathematics. Zero is a creature with many disguises.

    • @gavtriple9
      @gavtriple9 3 года назад

      Very similar to a Perturbation

  • @shutupimlearning
    @shutupimlearning Год назад +5

    Apparently this is going to be important in my classical mechanics and QM class. Thanks!

    • @ES-qe1nh
      @ES-qe1nh Год назад +2

      I mean yeah classical mechanics is basically just fancy constrained optimization with some cool mathematical theorems behind it (

  • @lewistian7975
    @lewistian7975 4 года назад +13

    That perfect red curve looks satisfying

  • @ull893
    @ull893 7 лет назад +10

    Welcome Blue and Brown guy! You are such a great teacher !

  • @cesaaargm
    @cesaaargm 2 года назад +3

    thanks. I am studying the mechanical aspect of the lagrangian, applied to a mechanical system that is conservative. This approach is useful to widen my view of the probelam!

  • @sarahmushroomkiller9233
    @sarahmushroomkiller9233 6 лет назад +4

    omg, 3Blue1Brown never fail you. Always can find the best explanation from him! BRAVO!

  • @aeroscience9834
    @aeroscience9834 8 лет назад +156

    Dang it. I was hoping for Lagrangian mechanics.

    • @zairaner1489
      @zairaner1489 8 лет назад +22

      Well that is what is behind the first Lagrange formalism for mechanics ;)

    • @T33-q9c
      @T33-q9c 7 лет назад +1

      Same :(

    • @eulefranz944
      @eulefranz944 7 лет назад +12

      we are in 2. semester and learn Lagrange...

    • @eulefranz944
      @eulefranz944 7 лет назад +6

      We learn both actually^ :/

    • @Chalisque
      @Chalisque 7 лет назад +4

      Before you try to get your head around Lagrangian mechanics, it is perhaps useful to understand the Lagrangian itself, and the intuition behind it. When applying it to mechanics, you don't want to still be thinking about what Lagrangians are and how they work.

  • @liabraga4641
    @liabraga4641 7 лет назад +10

    3Blue1Brown ❤❤❤ thank you!!

  • @dangiscongrataway2365
    @dangiscongrataway2365 8 лет назад +205

    Is this 3blue1brown talking?

  • @tiberium87
    @tiberium87 Год назад +3

    Why does Sal sound like Grant when he explains math?

  • @tudor6210
    @tudor6210 4 года назад +1

    Such a nice presentation of the Lagrangian!

  • @sherifffruitfly
    @sherifffruitfly 2 года назад +1

    "lagrangian is nothing more than repackaging what we already knew". this seems false, and towards the end you finally mentioned why. the transform to lagrangian reduces the constrained optimization problem to an UNconstrained optimization problem by embedding the problem into "lambda space". and that's SUPER significant.

  • @1722mayur
    @1722mayur 3 года назад +2

    Imagine this guy being your university professor for every course you take.

  • @EvanMildenberger
    @EvanMildenberger 8 месяцев назад

    I think the constraint equation should actually be x^2 + y^2 =16 to match the red circle because when y=0 and x=4 (where the red circle intersects the x-axis on the right), x^2 would be 16. Or else the red circle should be made smaller to have a radius of 2 units.

  • @SergioLopezSoriano
    @SergioLopezSoriano 3 года назад +1

    still the best explanation in youtube

  • @skunknetwork
    @skunknetwork 2 месяца назад

    2:24 how do we know that the gradients are proportional? where does this come from?

  • @sleeepymoe
    @sleeepymoe 4 года назад +1

    12:25 he mentioned modeling the revenue or the budget as functions, any idea how to calculate such functions?

  • @jordia.2970
    @jordia.2970 Год назад

    Seems crazy that, given how simple the explanation of where the Lagrangian comes from, that equation is commonly given without further justification... Makes one wonder if some teachers even know what they are doing beyond following a recipe...

  • @saurabhsharma7123
    @saurabhsharma7123 6 лет назад +2

    Such an excellent tutorial!

  • @Stardoll0tutorials
    @Stardoll0tutorials 3 года назад

    i won`t for sure need this in life , but i will for sure need this to pass my maths exam .

  • @waiitwhaat
    @waiitwhaat 3 года назад

    Ah the sweet voice of Grant. What a pleasure

  • @Uvenga
    @Uvenga 2 года назад

    When can see the function is less difficult to understand. Thank you

  • @naviderfani
    @naviderfani 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the great video. Would you please make a video about Lagrange duality.

  • @johnphillips4887
    @johnphillips4887 Год назад +1

    Very helpful - as always! Didn't ZZ top write a song about La Grange?

  • @MaxwellsWitch
    @MaxwellsWitch 7 лет назад +10

    Wait... 3Blue1Brown? Awesome!

  • @hardikgupta4038
    @hardikgupta4038 6 лет назад +2

    usually we have many constraints and not just one. suppose there was another constraint, how will the equation change?

  • @SuperDeadparrot
    @SuperDeadparrot Год назад

    Is it really necessary to include the b in R - lambda B? When you take the derivatives in later steps that will just go to 0 because it is constant. Is it really necessary to take dL/dlambda? You get information that was given in the first place.

  • @sigeeky
    @sigeeky 5 лет назад +4

    Great video, now it's clear and easy to understand! THANK YOU!

  • @ClosiusBeg
    @ClosiusBeg 3 года назад +2

    Could anybody explain: What the difference between Lagrangian multipliers and sequential quadratic programming (SQP)?

  • @franciscorivas4036
    @franciscorivas4036 4 года назад

    Can I suggest adding the link to the full playlist so one can find more videos related to the current video?

    • @benjaminrichards4709
      @benjaminrichards4709 4 года назад +1

      You'll be able to find it on the Khan Academy website in the Multivariable Calculus section

  • @mariofelipequevedolozano3659
    @mariofelipequevedolozano3659 4 года назад +1

    I have a question, in some textbooks the Lagrangian is written as ''L(x,y,lamda)=F(x,y)+Lamda*G(x,y)'' where G(x,y) is the constriction, and yours is L=GradF-Lamda*GradG, in the end the systems of equations that must be solved are different by a minus sign and it changes quite a bit the results. Why are this equations different? I mean, I understood your explanation and it's pretty cool, but i couldn't use your equation because it was different from the one I saw in cass.

    • @_nttai
      @_nttai 3 года назад +1

      I had the same question too. After some googling I found out that you'll get different values of λ (positive or negative) but the same solutions in terms of x, y, and your objective function. Using the Lagrangian you want to find the point (x,y) so that ∇f+λ∇g=0 which means the points such that ∇f and ∇g are linearly dependent so it is irrelevant the condition ±λ. In other words, you only care about x and y

    • @hbbh
      @hbbh 3 года назад +1

      @@_nttai thanks

  • @imbarron5015
    @imbarron5015 Год назад +1

    What are the prequisite of langrangian?

  • @hakeemnaa
    @hakeemnaa Год назад

    Tring to find the maximum
    when L does not change when x change, that when it reaches maximum( or minimum)
    same as y
    also, lima since at that point, it does not change, because of changing in direction ( increase to decrease)

  • @johnmelon45
    @johnmelon45 3 года назад +1

    God I wish you were my teacher for advanced diff eq!

  • @g3452sgp
    @g3452sgp 6 лет назад +4

    Which playlist does this video belong to?
    I want to see more.

  • @MrCobraTraders
    @MrCobraTraders 4 года назад

    Best best best best explaination ever!!!

  • @edwinyangtw
    @edwinyangtw 4 года назад

    Could you please put the link of the next course blow for convenience.

  • @juliechoudury6912
    @juliechoudury6912 8 лет назад

    Please do a video explaining the inter-temporal rate of substitution

  • @ugursoydan8187
    @ugursoydan8187 4 года назад

    why we define the action integral of lagrangian times dt? has we got a proof for it?

  • @Saptarshi.Sarkar
    @Saptarshi.Sarkar 4 года назад

    We can get both the maximum and minimum using this. Right?

  • @TLumVids
    @TLumVids 7 лет назад +9

    There is a big mistake in this video. Optimizing with constraints is not the same as Optimizing the Lagrangian without constraints unless the function we are optimizing is convex and the constraint is affine!

  • @kamitube1059
    @kamitube1059 4 года назад

    why do we substract the b ?

  • @Urias_Velasquez
    @Urias_Velasquez 6 лет назад +5

    This vídeo has an huge error! The graphic o Gradient is not what they paint. The Gradient is the parallel plane to the vector they said.

  • @vitorbraga28
    @vitorbraga28 6 лет назад +1

    what is the program that he uses for the graph?

    • @legendariersgaming
      @legendariersgaming 6 лет назад +1

      I am pretty sure it is a custom program, probably adapted from his Python library that he uses to animate his videos on 3Blue1Brown

  • @tashitashi9997
    @tashitashi9997 2 года назад

    Can somebody explain to me how the gradient of R is promotional of B...please

  • @momolesumo201
    @momolesumo201 5 лет назад

    I think you can add a variable and have '

  • @shibaneethakur5035
    @shibaneethakur5035 4 года назад

    Sir which book you have preferred for this

  • @yanceq2690
    @yanceq2690 3 года назад

    Can somebody please tell me, what is this all for? I mean, if we can use the Pythagorean Theorem to find lengths in triangles, what can we use this for?

    • @robertbrandywine
      @robertbrandywine 2 года назад +1

      Solving motion problems in mechanics. Sometimes difficult problems in Newtonian mechanics are much easier using Lagrangian mechanics.

  • @sachin_suthar
    @sachin_suthar 5 лет назад

    Nice explanation

  • @zack_120
    @zack_120 3 года назад

    Why the term "gradient" is used instead of velocity or slope in this video, any hidden meaning?

    • @robertbrandywine
      @robertbrandywine 2 года назад

      And why is the arrow he drew perpendicular to the slope?

    • @ES-qe1nh
      @ES-qe1nh Год назад

      The gradient vector is defined as an n-tuple of partial derivatives of some multivariate function

  • @minsoe8014
    @minsoe8014 7 лет назад +1

    Could someone please tell me that the reasons to assume the gradient equal to zero?

    • @McRaylie
      @McRaylie 7 лет назад +1

      You are not assuming the gradient is zero, you are looking for values, so it equals zero.

    • @iwtwb8
      @iwtwb8 7 лет назад +1

      There's surely deeper meaning, but he shows from about 6:00 onward that the way L is constructed makes it so that the gradient of R and B are proportional and that the value of B equals the constraint.

  • @TheAmigodaniel
    @TheAmigodaniel 3 года назад

    What courses in mathematics do I have to have in my body before going inside the famous Lagrangian?
    Somebody can explain?

    • @robertbrandywine
      @robertbrandywine 2 года назад

      It looks like you just have to know how to take partial derivatives. Those are covered, I believe, in Calculus III (maybe Calculus II).

  • @baruahsarthak_
    @baruahsarthak_ Год назад

    Superb!

  • @hichamboukharsa1639
    @hichamboukharsa1639 4 года назад

    Why gradient of R not equal to gradient of B ? Is should be equal because we calculate the gradient in the same point

  • @Adrian124
    @Adrian124 4 года назад +7

    "You'd never have a budget that looks like a circle"
    Huh, didn't think so

  • @THEDIVINEMISCARRIAGE
    @THEDIVINEMISCARRIAGE 6 лет назад +3

    The Lagrangian function is now my god.

  • @BKAM78
    @BKAM78 3 года назад

    where is the next video??!!

  • @thinkanddo2352
    @thinkanddo2352 7 лет назад

    Thank you!

  • @craigmalcom6294
    @craigmalcom6294 4 года назад

    why are the gradients not equal to each other but proportional?

    • @joluju2375
      @joluju2375 3 года назад

      Why would they be equal ? R & B are 2 different functions, and we are interrested in contour lines to be tangent. So far, no need for gradients.
      The trick is that for lines to be tangent, their perpendiculars (gradients) have to be aligned.
      V1 = λ V2 is merely the way to say the vectors are on the same line. Aligned, or proportional, or colinear are synonyms here.

    • @ES-qe1nh
      @ES-qe1nh Год назад

      They are linear combinations of eachother, kind of by definition if you look at the constraint function

  • @kamitube1059
    @kamitube1059 4 года назад

    why is the gradient equal to 0

  • @iamjisiah3065
    @iamjisiah3065 8 лет назад

    What drawing thing is that

  • @krasnoyarsk512
    @krasnoyarsk512 6 лет назад +3

    I didn't get it :( too complicated or just too much writing I don't know..

    • @mooloongee9595
      @mooloongee9595 4 года назад +1

      Thats the problem with American videos.

  • @Amanpreetkaur-cp4fs
    @Amanpreetkaur-cp4fs 2 месяца назад

    Nice Very nice🎉

  • @pengzhou8926
    @pengzhou8926 4 года назад

    非常的透彻

  • @faraza5161
    @faraza5161 8 лет назад +3

    Hi.. I am just curious.. Which software has been used in the making of this video?

    • @nabzo46
      @nabzo46 8 лет назад +5

      Microsoft paint

    • @McRaylie
      @McRaylie 7 лет назад +1

      I think he said it was Python once, but not sure

    • @Chalisque
      @Chalisque 7 лет назад +1

      The pen sketching stuff, I use mypaint, though I don't know what he uses. Set the brush to work like a small pen, and nicely you can paint where you like and mypaint automagically extends the canvas for you. Also, though 3b1b doesn't use this for these videos, geogebra is worth playing with.

  • @smcheeto
    @smcheeto 2 года назад

    3b1b does Khan Avademy videos??????

  • @vladzyk10
    @vladzyk10 2 года назад +1

    He kills me with... it's just artificial fanciness... "it looks like you'redoing advancedmath but it is just artificial xD"

  • @pi17
    @pi17 5 лет назад

    Grant Sanderson in the house ladies and gentlemen!

  • @fahimhossain165
    @fahimhossain165 4 года назад

    Yasser Abu Mostafa himself sent me here!

  • @bxmoreno1988
    @bxmoreno1988 8 лет назад

    Do a video on Bitcoin !!

  • @bobbywinston116
    @bobbywinston116 2 года назад

    "And all these letters make it look like were using some advanced math"
    Me, a normal guy who looked up a math video to see how stupid it will make me feel: 🤓🤡😶

  • @mithsaradasanayake3211
    @mithsaradasanayake3211 3 года назад +1

    I notice that voice from anywhere

  • @ranvirsinha9149
    @ranvirsinha9149 2 года назад

    Can someone pls explain the Standard Model Lagrangian as a 15 year old wld understand it?😅

  • @gaurangagarwal3243
    @gaurangagarwal3243 5 лет назад +1

    Me : let me check out some Lagrangian mechanics online
    Also me: hmm khan academy videos are good I should probably check it.
    Hears the voice in the video
    "WAAAAAAIT A SECOND"

  • @raulreyes7125
    @raulreyes7125 8 лет назад

    DANG THE DRAWING

  • @nu11y61
    @nu11y61 7 лет назад +4

    3Blue1Brown!

  • @Jimmy-vy7lk
    @Jimmy-vy7lk 6 лет назад +4

    I tried to scroll up the video.

  • @DarwinsChihuahua
    @DarwinsChihuahua 8 лет назад

    Sounds like the name of a Highlander spin-off.

  • @hello_neighbor0_05
    @hello_neighbor0_05 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey, hey , grant?

  • @pedrosanchez1747
    @pedrosanchez1747 4 года назад

    Good but very messy with the space needed for the explanation.

  • @Postermaestro
    @Postermaestro 7 лет назад

    Commenting to spread on the tubes!

  • @jeremiasdonner5028
    @jeremiasdonner5028 2 года назад

    wait a minute, this is 3B1B. You can't fool us..

  • @peterd5843
    @peterd5843 4 года назад +3

    3B1B!!!!

  • @morningmoon6100
    @morningmoon6100 5 лет назад

    3Blue1Brown is here !!!!!