The Citroën XM Story
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- Опубликовано: 13 фев 2020
- The Citroën XM wasn’t the first large Citroën and it wasn’t the last. It was widely praised, but largely ignored when it was sold. Over 20 years after production ended it’s becoming a collectable classic, like the Citroën SM before it. Any why not? If you’re going to drive a classic car, make it a stylish, luxurious, quirky ride that looks like something out of a 1980’s sci-fi movie.
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Errata: The large bar in the chart should be "total worldwide" rather than "rest of the world" as it also included UK sales.
The map showing the French design sites is majorly messed up!
Hi mate. I love your videos. Please make more and never stop.I've learnt so much off you. Can you do a video on the mercsades sprinter? Thanks
@@dieselpower7075 Thank you! Maybe, but lots of other ones ahead of it.
@@BigCar2 OK thank you for your reply and again keep these videos going mate you are awesome
hi, two corrections if i may. there never seemed to be a 2.1 diesel bx, and the prices for 1989 cxs and xms seem quite similar, no gap there
@@anatolbaskak the gap was the look ,one already seen a lot and other at the time looked like a spaceship, and i drove for a couple of years (and kept it) a high-end car ,CX model with a 2.5 diesel engine (silver metalized paint with blue interiors ,still with those 70´s side mirrors) ,maybe 2 years ago i went in holidays with it and after being stoped for maybe 5 years ,it never gave me a problem ,i took it because to get to the finest beaches there are no roads and the CX is great at is highest suspenction level , better than some allroad vehicules, regards
I love the look and engineering of old Citroens... I'd give almost anything to have a garage filled with an XM, a CX, an SM and a DS.
If you’d give almost anything, it should be no problem filling your garage with these cars.
And an Xantia Activa V6 ;)
Yeah they shouldn't cost much unless you want a pre-fixed one lol
that would cost you a grand total of 672 american dollars
You forgot the BX 😎
A beautiful XM is gathering dust in my granddads garage. I should start restoring it to its original glory!
If it isn't rusting too much it's totally worth it. Parts are getting scarcer but prices for them are still low.
@@marcbrasse747 but they are a beautiful looking car.
@@isthereanybodyoutthere9397 Indeed!
aventdrr Contact Citroën specialists and go for it!
do it since you cant do much during quarentine!
I have a XM V6 12v 1990 and I love it. It flies through time and space.
What I like the most in your videos is the extensive old footage, because it gives us an immersion on each era, helping us to understand the context on those 70's-80's-90's days!
I drove the XM Diesel Automatic. It had an 80 liters fuel tank and it used about 6,5 liters per 100 km. It had nearly the double of range, than MB 250D. That one used at least 9 liters per 100 km. What a car, and stunningly comfort.
they ALL have 80 liter fuel tanks 😂
2020, I'm 40...still love this car!
2021, I'm 18 and i just bought my first car. And this is a beautiful Citroën XM :)
These big Citroens and also the Renault 25 were like driving magic carpets - so comfortable.
Right. I owned a R25 and now 5 XMs.
@@hgsert2733 Me too!
@neil eastell Many people are balanced about this
I sold these brand new and they were a brilliant car. The quality of the ride had to be experienced to be believed. It always drove level thanks to the suspension no matter what the load. The diesel version was incredible. I loved the handbrake system too that worked really well and was very practical. A great car which was very much underrated.
They didn't have a handbrake (besides the release plunger) and it was a pain to use when doing hill starts - the complete opposite of practicality of having a conventional handbrake. The XM's suspension was firmer and nowhere near as good as the CX (which in turn was firmer than the DS), even when fitted with 'comfort' spheres - the XM felt more like a German car by comparison with the firmer suspension and seat cushioning. I had two XMs (V6 Si and a 2.0 SEi auto, later converted to manual on it's 3rd gearbox) and neither were a patch on my CX 25 GTi Turbo 2. The only plus points it had over the CX was it being a hatchback and having better ventilation. I never bought another big Citroen after the disappointment of the XMs.
@@chrisperyagh I was the Sales Manager of a Citroen Dealership when the XM came out and I drove many of them right across the model range. I know they don't have a conventional 'handbrake'. It was a foot operated parking brake with a release lever under the dashboard on the left hand side of the column. It could be used in exactly the same way as a handbrake on a hill start if you knew the technique, but it did fox some people. You like CX's, I liked the XM. Vive la différence 😀😀😀
It took some choreography to do a successful hill start at a set of traffic lights - at least the automatic ones made that whole routine easier. My ID19B had the same parking brake/release plunger set-up.
For those who don't know the hill start routine, it's come to a stop holding the brake pedal down and clutch in, into neutral, release clutch, set parking brake, set parking brake plunger, release brake pedal, clutch in, into 1st, bring the revs up and clutch up to biting point, then release the parking brake plunger and you're off accompanied with a bang from the parking brake pedal. Nice and dignified.
I also lost count of how many times I had hydraulic pipes burst and ended up having to be transported home on a low loader the moment I got to where I was meant to be and ended up missing the gig as a result - never had that with the CX or ID19B.
The XM was a great car on those times it was running well and an expensive, inconvenient nightmare when it wasn't.
@@chrisperyagh ooooo that's a bit of a long winded and complicated explanation. With the car stationary, in neutral, and with the parking break on, perform a standard hill start and release the parking brake at the biting point. I demonstrated it loads of times and people got straight away. Top Gear deliberately made it look difficult and ineffective. It wasn't, it was just different.
@@koll789 I've no idea what Top Gear did as I don't watch that drivel, but that's the detailed step-by-step routine I found myself having to go through whenever stopping on an upward gradient at a junction or at a set of traffic lights in a manual XM. It's always going to be long winded to explain anything in every single minute detail, even if it's fairly routine when done in practice.
If there's a much simpler way with far fewer steps involved, then by all means demonstrate it.
When Citroën came to Brazil in early 90's, my dad took me to a dealer to see this car. I was 7-8 years old. I'll never forget how impressed we were with its design and features. The self leveling suspension, the electronics, the comfort, the ride, the fact that it went all the way down when you lock it...amazing
The seller put me on the trunk and sat beside me to show the self leveling suspension. So cool. And he gave us a cassete tape with a video clip of the XM. I hope my dad has it stored somewhere.
I often recall this car, nevertheless I don't remember seeing one on the streets, at least for a long...very long time.
In early 90's Brazil was in a very unstable economy, so not many people could buy expensive and foreign cars. I think that's why it's hard to find these XMs around here. And the fact that it became an unreliable car, maybe was one of the factors that change the citroen mind of keep selling it here.
But as you said, I think it will be a collectable car someday, and I hope to find one in good condition to buy. I would love to have one.
Great comments. I live in Brazil and I'm a proud owner of two in great shape. We have a Citroen Club here but XM's are very few. I also own other classics cars but the XM it's so special. If you want one don't hesitate to contact me.
@@Francis0275 hi, where are you from?
@@ricardoramos1242 eu moro no mesmo pais que voce :)
@@Francis0275 ahahahahahahahaha. Sou de Curitiba e vc?
Well it was impressive. And it's interesting that all the most impressive French cars were designed by Italians...
I wish Citroën was as quirky today, sure the C4 Cactus exists but it’s nothing compared to cars like the XM
It's kinda sad that the cars had to become more mediocre for the brand to survive.
Maybe the merger with FCA will do something. After all we got the Giulia, the first sporty, rear drive Alfa Romeo since the 75.
The Cactus is on par with Fiat Multipla on ugliness
See the C6 with its concave rear screen (and to a lesser extent the C5).
@@gplusgplus2286 The original Multipla was fantastic!
I can remember my dad wanting an XM V6 when I was a kid in the mid 90's, but being a mechanic he was always looking for a bargain repairable example, the few that did pop up in the salvage section of the Auto Trader were either way too battered or sold quickly. In the end he bought a 1995 (3 years old at the time) Renault Laguna 3.0 V6 that needed a lot of repairing (B pillar, sill, 2 doors and several hours on the jig). My mum loved the car but my dad was always nonplussed by it because it wasn't an XM!
Hi! I am selling my Citroen XM turbo injection, automatic, 1998 cc, 1997, petrol, dark red, owned since 2011, under 82.500 miles. I have two keys and all service history. It is off the road, parked in my driveway (Greater London).
On the good side : impeccable grey velvet interior. Spheres do not need replacing.
On the attention side : The lacquer has peeled, new tyres needed, new alternator required.
As a quick sale, because I am moving, I ask only £1.600. Reply here if interested
Sitting in a French car has always been as soft, plush and cozy as sitting on grandma's lap. :)
Very successful Citroen movie about a very rare underrated car! Go XM!
I loved the time I owned a Citroën BX. Considering that they had a bit of a cruddy reputation.. Mine was utterly reliable and in the 4 years of ownership, it only ever failed its MOT on a broken number plate. Not bad for a 9 year old car.
Got written off in a 40mph head on crash...
I was doing 40.. Wallyknob in a Granada came around the corner on my side of the road. I had seat belt marks for a while but the BX sacrificed itself and saved me.
Our family BX made it for almost 20 years. No other car (especially the "reliable" german ones) of that era was around, while at the same time, the humble citroen was able to make 1500+ km roadtrips without any issue....
My 18 years old BX failed Dutch MOT because of the rotten Subframe. It was not allowed to weld that subframe.
Replacing the subframe was absurd expensive in those days.
The rest of the car was 100% rustfree and it hurted alot bringing that car to the scrapyard.
Seeing a BX today still gives me a positive vibe.
The most comfertable car i ever owned !
We had a BX in the family for over 28 years. Never missed a beat!
Finally, a Fiesta hit me sideways and ran me off the road. The BX kept me safe but was written off.
What a shame, only two years before becoming a propper oldtimer...
I had one too. Loved it but the steering without servo was way to heavy. Unfortunatly the hydropneumatics didn't do anymore after a year. The car was 8 years old.
My BX manual gearbox was gone in 2 yrs after purchasing. Very stunt!!! Another strange phenomenon was fuel line was bitten to leak by rat which I'd never seen in any car before. Lucky enough I'd smell it prior to being grilled.
I always liked it when you got out of your car and after a few seconds it sat down. Like a good Dog making sit....
My C5 X seven Exclusive doesn't loose hydraulic pressure because of the electronic systems. But the ride quality is still excellent!!! Iam such a big fan of big Citroëns! My dad's BX 19 RD was a joy to drive an know what you mean as cool as bud!
A blast from the past. My parents bought 2 of them; the first at launch. This after 2 BXs
I remember the comfortable seats, cossetting ride and contrived footbrake
Always loved the “starship “ Xm it made others look old and stodgy
Actually the xm made itself look old and stodgy
@@fritzdaddy-135mmgetstagger4 actually nope
I saw one for the first time in Ireland in late 1989 and the word that came to my mind then was "spaceship". A spectacular car.
I owned a few Citroens and i loved the ride and the strange things you got for free, special was the suspension really a class on its own !
Even the ZX was fun with passive rear steering. Reliable as well.
The thing with older Citroens was guessing where they'd put the handbrake. Middle of the dashboard or fourth pedal on the floor next to the clutch pedal?
@@briansinclair2223 The pedal for the handbrakes was common with the older Mercedes-Benz (W115 aka /8) as well. Actually, I do not know any Citroen model with a pedal for the handbrakes.... The BX 19 RD I had from 1989 until 1992 had the usual lever and my current Berlingo does have one as well......Anyway, the high pressure hydraulic brakes of the BX were quite weird: No ABS, two centimetres of pedal way only and special tools required to press back the brake pistons when changing the brake liners (took me half day to do this without that special tool!). Finally, the BX was written off, when all the spheres of the hydraulic system needed a change and the costs exceeded the value of the car itself.
Primus Interpares the XM has foot operated handbrake
@@carmadme Just could not believe it, but you are right! Finally, I found a picture of an XM-cockpit where I can see the pedal! Too strange that Citroen used this technique as well......
My parents had a xantia, i loved it! Seeing it stand up on its wheels when you start it, the very specific sound it was doing... It was so cool! I will surely buy one after my drive test done.
I remember seeing one drive passed me as a kid. I thought it was some sort of concept car at the time. I remember chasing it on my bike as it got stuck in traffic up ahead to try and see the badge. It got away and remained a mystery as to what it was. I even remember my dad being quite interested and asking me all about it when I said I'd seen a concept car on the road. The next time I saw it it drove passed again before I could see what it was. I was annoyed but at least I now knew it stayed in the area. The mystery came to an anti-climatic end when I just stumbled across it parked up one day and checked it out properly.
The old feel of Cittroens comes back. Always loved the XM - there's an estate near me
And i thought peugeot 205 video was a treat for french car owners. Never expected to see video about XM. As a XM owner, nice way to start weekend. Thank you!
Congratulations!!!!
Every Citroën owner has been touched to his soul.
Even if you dont have a Citroën at the moment you still are connected to the brand and its heritage.
I have a 100% practical and reliable Japanese car now and am still hunting for a 1st generation Citroën HY van to restrore and drive.
@@obelic71 I could have had an HY for free back in 2004 in SW France.The brakes were binding but the engine was fine. I just didn't have the know how to make it roadworthy! Since then, by the the time it got covered with brambles an enthusiast came along and bought it !
@@melesmelesfaber3866 I know and he had propably to buy it for alot of money.
€4000 for a restoration project HY van is the starting point in France now.
They are highly sought after due to the foodtruck craze.
@@obelic71 I think he paid literally sommething like €200, need to confirm that with my friend however!
I have a 2L grey XM, truly an amazing car and still going strong. Thanks for the great video!
Glad you enjoy it!
My Dad swapped a Rover Sterling for an XM in the late eighties. He had lunch every day in a pub that was frequented by Joe Brown who tours the UK every year. He really liked the level suspension and bought an estate version which he could fill with his instruments and still have a level ride. Last time I spoke to him, he had had six XMs!
Still own a XM 2.1 diesel. I love this 1998 car. Thanks for the video!
Just one more cool car that we can't get here in the US. I was totally smitten the first time I saw one, both in pictures and in person, when I went to Europe for the first time in August 1990. I've always been a big fan of Bertone styling since the 80's. Thanks.
My overriding memory of those big Citroens is that the seats were more comfortable than my sofa. I didn't drive them very much but had a mate who had a CX followed by an XM as company cars so rode in them a lot.
The most beautiful car ever drawn.
I had a few of these - they were pretty good apart from the problems with the ABS warning light staying on - so pleasing to see it was doing just that in your video. If you turned it off and back on again it usually went out, unless you took it get it fixed and then it would refuse to anything wrong, so no fault - until you got back home.
I worked in a Citroen garage and loved driving the XM 2 litre turbo
I had one and I named mine Battlestar Galactica because of the amount of buttons in the dash. I absolutely loved it.
superb interior and exterior design
Citroen has the most beautiful elegant design ever and much better than new cars these days .
The C6 could easily be mistaken by anyone for a modern design.
The C6 could probably be produced today,with minimum changes! Too bad that european consumers didn't appreciate much all those large french cars! For some reason,Europeans just love paying Germany!!
C6 is not as pretty as cx and xm
Yeah for some reason Europeans prefer quality over rubbish
@@alphatrion100 I had CX,XM and still have a C6. They are all great cars, but had some ups and downs. C6 failure was marketing, and unpractical sedan configuration. XM was much more practical because it had giant trunk space.
MrCarGuy20
The C6 was and still is a tribute. It was introduced too late and with too little marketing. It is easily a great performer compared to the German models, reliability it on par with the 5 series, E class, A6, moreover because these German cars are as unreliable as the electronics they use.
I had a 'K' registered XM and did just over 140,000 miles in it. Apart from all the various "bells and whistles" it came with, people always commented on the seats - how comfortable they were.
I then had various other cars before going back to Citroen with a 2009 C4 Picasso the a 2015 C4 Picasso (both 1600cc Turbo Diesels). The seats are just as comfortable in the Picasso as in the XM.
Thank you for the video. Brought back some very pleasant memories.
The C6 is a beautiful car, and it's always a (rare) pleasure to see one in the UK.
I like the personal experiences in this episode. Makes it feel much more passionate.
Citroën, one of my favorite makers. Rented many in Europe, back in the day.
Never have and never will buy a Citroen.
When I was studying in Coventry in the 90s, I had 2 friends with Citroens, one had a base spec 1.4 BX, the other an XM V6. Both were amazing in their own way. I was always in awe of the XM though. That wonderful styling and excellent ride. Another Grande Damme.
I know a guy who had an XM with the 2.5 turbo diesel and it was great for towing his large caravan and the comfort and the ride was sublime. After a couple of years the engine head gasket failed and he spoke to three Citroen dealers about having it repaired: only one of those dealers had ever had an XM come in for a minor repair, the other two had never even physically seen one and none of them had ever come across the 2.5 TD engine so could not give an estimate of the repair costs, how long it would take, whether the parts would be available or if they would need any special tools to do the repair.
The guy then contacted Citroen UK who very nicely provided him with a service manual that covered the head gasket replacement on that engine - but it was all in French! He was able to get it translated, managed to source the correct head gasket kit and did the full replacement on his driveway in his spare time over two weeks. Unfortunately, he missed tightening one bolt and the head gasket failed again two weeks later. He had to do the replacement again, but this time it only took him two days and he made sure he tightened all the bolts up.
He kept the car another couple of years and it was perfectly reliable, but eventually the transmission started playing up (it was an automatic) so he quickly sold the car to avoid a potentially ruinous repair bill.
Yeah, The big Citroëns are always subject to a certain amount of unnecessary fears. Typical though that you could not find a manual. An English Hayness workshop manual does however exist. I guess it's mostly a matter of the car being so rare in the UK that nobody has any experience with it. Replacing a head gasket is however a standard repair. No specific Citroën expertise is needed.
He sold someone a lemon that's messed up
The Citroën XM has always been a staple car for me. I love its spaceship design, the smooth suspension and the fact that it is a large luxury car. Infact it is my absolute favorite car!
Agh, now I have to have one. *looking on Autotrader now*.
I remember sittning om the passenger seat in this one. The amount of space in front was jawdropping and I still remember the feeling of what felt as out-of-this-world interior chilin from Volvos and audis
Lucyperson to own 2 CXs. Enjoyed every bit of its comfort.
My mother on back seat never realised, I was doing 150.
It never ceases to amaze me that while Citroen and Toyota have both utilized the same basic aerodynamic shape, the XM makes it look classy and futuristic while the Prius looks like something my cat hurled up on my Persian rug. Great video!
Not really sure why the prius had to look like it did. The wheels were much to small the car was to narrow for how long it was, a hybrid auris looked much better. I think they just made it look bad like the nissan leaf. Looked like a ugly frog with wheels
Japanese always struggled with designs especially in the 90s, old Daihatsus are some of the most disgusting things on the road
As a fan of Citroens, the XM is one of my favorites. Love the futuristic design. I wish they sold more here. Buy us Yanks are a picky lot. But I would have bought one even used. That’s why I like Swedish cars as well, they are also quirky. 😀
"Quirky" is the right word for Citroën and Volvo at that time, because it's useless to tell stories. "Time is performance", upon Volvo? 😉
My dad got a dark green metallic 98’ V6 24V XM Exclusive back in 2000. It was like new, with manual TM, leather seats and no solar roof. He would let me drive it soon after I got my driving license with him on the passenger’s seat. We made a few long familly vacation trips in it. The car’s acceleration and overtaking performance was impressive for such an elegant sedan, and once you put the suspension in Sport mode the roll reduced a lot in twisty roads. My dad loved to that car so much. Sadly, we sold it soon after he passed away in 2013. I miss them both!
I had an absolutely enormous XM estate around the turn of the century. It was my 3rd Citroen and the most unreliable heap of junk ever screwed together by man. Permanent electrical problems, dodgy hydraulics and it eventually threw a con-rod through the crank case near the German border and spent 18 months living on a garage forecourt in Luxembourg before it was scrapped.
It was also the smoothest, most comfortable car I have ever been in and I'd buy another now if I could find a good one.
So it's like the hot psycho ex
you still find good ones - if you pay the price..i've found a V6 12 exclusive from 1996 with 92.000 km on the counter, for 8.000 € , strangely enough, in germany ! but it's almost perfect - the only problem is finding spare parts...you actually should buy TWO xm's, and keep one for the parts .. :-)
An uncle in law had one of these for some years. Don't think he has it now think he has a C5 now. He only ever drives Citroens as he works on them too and knows everything about them.
I have to say out loud. I LOVE THIS MAN
As a teen I stayed with a host family in France one summer. The neighbors had a CX I rode in a few times. I totally forgot about the cool gauges on the dashboard!!! Thanks for posting!
Fantastic video. I was so in love with the design of the Citroën XM when it was released. For me it was the future of car design, back then at least!
Thanks for another great video!
I found this really interesting because my first large car was the Xantia and my next was the C5 which I kept for 15 years!!
It's interesting to hear the history that came before them and why finding a car like them now is so difficult.
i loved my 2 XMs back in the days, one of them ran 550.000km without any problems, only had standard repairings and a view electric problems which they were known of until the 92 models, the V6 (not the early 24V version which was crap!!) was great and had enough power. A wonderful car.
Had one in the 90s, loved it to bits.
I love this Car. My dad himself owns a Xantia and both of these Designs are so nice and sleek! Why does nobody today produce cars with such a nice and sleek design?!
I think exactly the same! I just bought a Xantia 2.0 from 1998 one month ago and im loving it! Cars today look all the same, and Citroen lost all the charme they always had since the DS
Cars have become marketing soulless items today
The yought is not interested in cars anymore and see them as pure apliances.
Citroën is one of those soul having brands.
The old ones have their faults you hate and love them at the same time.
Pedestrian safety bullshit has basically killed off bumpers and sleek front ends. Now virtually every car has to have a tall, flat front end to be safety certified. As a child of the 80s and 90s, it makes you miss all the low, sleek, futuristic designs we had back then!
Oh wow, I loved the xantia, my favourite childhood car, would absolutely love one now
It's today's adhd society they need tasteless big ugly SUVs to show how rich they are
Indeed hilarious translations. Thanks for another great feature. I never owned a citroen but they sure are quirky.
Remember seeing the XM at my local dealer. It was huge, it was cool, it was like The Future.
I wish Citroen still made quirky, weird cars. The Citroen DS was one of the most revolutionary cars ever
You have done a great job making this short documentary. Thank you very much for your valuable effort. XM sure deserves it.
Warm regards from France
Thank you! If you're able to make French subtitles, it would be wonderful! ruclips.net/user/timedtext_cs_panel?c=UCTGrgT-Ld4kH3CxHnCMGn8w&tab=2
@@BigCar2 I will try and do it as soon as possible. Team work. I like that.
@@guillaumeromain6694 Wonderful!
Love that car, owned 4 of those
I learned a lot of lessons in my Dad's new 1982 Volvo 265GLE. When I pressed the windscreen defrost button on the over simplified HVAC and turned the heat on the windscreen instantly fogged up completely...at 110 km/h...I'd never heard him swear that much...then I learned about live rear axles and Michelin high profile tyres....I've distrusted Michelin since then. I sure learned a lot about vehicle undynamics in that car. These Citroens have always appealed. Thanks. Great presentation.
Another fantastic story!! I love the imagery and inside info you find.
I loved my XMi Turbo. Great acceleration and really comfortable for driving across Europe. It could sit comfortably and quietly at 200kph on the German autobahns. It also had a huge petrol tank. But I admit I bought it because of depreciation, it was cheap at 2 years old. It replaced my Renault 25, which my ex girlfriend called the Enterprise. I thought about replacing the XM with a Citroem Xanthia but it was very mundane.
Another great informative show, i just love Citroens, so quirky so innovative, so ahead of their time, oh and big car i was a messer as well ha ha. Keep up the great work :)
Citroen XM was my first car. Bought second hand with a bit of financial help from my dad. Since then I have owned at least 9 other cars but if you ask my wife what car I should ideally get, guess what her answer is? Yes, another Citroen XM. The other 9 cars, she doesn’t even remember their names. I remember once in the lake district we were stuck in a jam because the road was inundated after heavy rainfall. Nobody dared to cross it, fearful of flooding their engines. We drove out of the jam, stopped in front of the flooding, raised the suspension to max and forded the road. Once across, we stopped again and brought the suspension back to normal. The looks on the faces of the other motorists! Gold.
I had a Citroën GSA Pallas (1981) in 1993 and I loved it.
My parents had one, I loved it :)
My Dad bought one and loved it so much that when it was time to replace it, he bought a younger one to replace it.
Thank you, thank you!
Your videos are getting better and better, Sir 🙂 The timing, the edit, the narration, the music....all good, stuff. Hats off. Best regards from a car detailer in Norway.
Brilliant, comprehensive and engaging. Good car history/documentary.
I hope the electric fairy appears in my suspension someday
I read your comment before watching the whole video and I thought it was quite original LOL
2:40 That map is very accurate ^^
It is awesome isn't it?!? Looks like I missed that mess while editing it.
@@BigCar2 if you were trying to be disrespectful to half of Europe, you sucked seed err... succeed.
@@ChristianJanssen I would never try to do that!
Love the XM have owned 2 of them, my favourite was the top of the range v6 auto I owned for about 3 years.
Fantastic, informative and interesting as usual. Keep up the great work.
Ha! I used to have a Majorette version of the Citroen XM, it had an opening bonnet.
Very suitable, Majorette were the only ones making cars with a suspension!
the "off" green one or the silver one?
Insta-clicked when I saw this.
My father had a 90 first serie and I remember it fondly. I remember the speed on every surface and the troubles at the Hal-like computer. Couple of years ago met a gentleman in one,and excitedly asked him about keeping one. His answer chilled me:"I have 3, 2 for spares and 1 working".
i had a 1990 2.0si as my third car when i was 19 or 20. comfort incredible, performance perfectly adequate, technology crazy. reliability ...eerrr.... but i totally adored it. it was an adventure every time you got in it. great video!
My dad was a Citroen car dealer!
My uncle had one of these purely down to him having a bad back so the sofa like driver's seat was ideal
When we moved from Germany in 1980, my dad sold his DS to an older gentleman who’d been a test pilot during the war. He’d had so many crashes and broken bones that he couldn’t bend his knees more than 90 degrees, which makes standing up from a low position rather difficult. The high, armchair-like seats and ability to set the suspension high when getting out of the car were perfect for him.
Can't belive how much you can learn on cool old French cars from other countries, usually if you would want some info about late 80 Citroëns and Renaults you would ask your uncle who has too many dogs. Thanks for keeping it alive
I inherited of a XM V6-24 it was a hell of a magic carpet ride, and this engine was really powerfull and could handle a 3.5T trailler thank to the autolevelling. I had to renew the engine camshafts myself.... and it was a hell of a mechanical nightmare. Can you imagine, water loop, air conditionning loop, suspension oil loop, diravi oil loop, petrol loop, ... so many tubings and connectors before accessing the mechanical parts. It was out of this world. Mercedes and Bentley paid royalties to use these suspensions.
Great video. How 'bout Simca/Talbot Horizon? Another "lost" car.
Yes, probably at some point.
My late Uncle worked on the assembly at Linwood building them
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Uhh yeah. My first car in 1982. That would be interesting😊
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As always a great video. A few mistakes: the 2,0 l petrol engine was never used in de 205 GTI, the 2,1 l diesel was never used in the BX. Both engines were the successors of the petrol and diesel engines with 1.905 cc displacement.
Correct. A more correct way of saying it was that it was a later evolution of the one from the 205gti.
Exactly. And the PSV engine does not exist. It is called the PRV engine.
I remember when it came on the market - looked like a spaceship. I’ll always like them.
Love this channel. Very informative. Underappreciated channel.
Excellent presentation as always! I enjoy every one of your videos.
I've always been a fan of these big Citroens. I'm stunned at the level of electronic sensor tech that they were using in the mid 80s, as well as the overall cost of development. Then that later model you mentioned, before the turn of the century, with wireless and internet? Wow!
Seems they may have spent too much money trying to be too far ahead on technology while neglecting the basics like reliable engines, competitive horsepower, and the driving characteristics customers actually wanted at the time. If they had put their genius to work on those issues, what might they have wrought? An early hybrid, revolutionary power output, a pneumatic suspension more suited to a sport saloon?
Hi, actually the 200 hp V6 24 only had trouble in the beginning. They replaced the lifters with upgraded ceramic coated ones to fix this issue. And true, not many people loved the suspension. They preferred the harder and more sporty ones. Even though the XM could offer comparable sportiness thanks to its adaptive suspension. And that's exactly the reason why I drive them today. Go slow and easy to enjoy a comfy ride. But if you go harder, the car allows it too. Without the insane amount of body movement from other comparable cars of the era, like the Ford Scorpio.
Wow this brings back a lot of memories! We had 2 XM in our family! My grandpa had an entry level 2.1 turbo diesel from 93 to 2006.
He was supposed to trade in his BX for a ZX but brought the XM back home. My grandma was so mad, she didn’t talk to him for a whole week! As a kid, I remember playing with my cousins with the dash. Using every button to control our spaceship through the galaxy! I also remember the sequence of the suspension when he started the car... you couldn’t drive right off, you had to wait for the car to rise. The car always had a problem and he spent about the value of the car in repair over the course of his ownership! We often moked this car but I felt sad when he sold it for a C3. My brother also had one, from 1998 to 2000. Still turbo d 12 but higher grade with electronic A/C, hydractive. This one handled a lot better, but also spent more time in the shop than on the road. It’s been a while and I probably forgot everything about the following cars but these, I clearly remember the plain wheels covers with the 4 circles, the way the suspension rises, the one spoke steering wheel, the clock at the right of the steering wheel, the lever to raise the suspension... everything that was unique to the XM!
I was overtaken yesterday by an XM on the M4, whilst in my E30. Made me smile seeing such a rare car.
Awesome!
Oh oh oh!!! Follow up video of the Citroen suspension and how it ended up in the Rolls-Royce 🤓
Beautiful looking car. For some reason, the Citroen XM was never sold here in North America. Probably because of its complex hydropneumatic suspension, among other things, it wouldn't have sold well. There'd probably have to be specialty shoppes all over the country that could service the car.
Superb video as always. Thank you.
I soooo wish these were sold in the US. Always loved this car.
I voted for this one! Thanks so much for doing this! Don’t suppose you’ve done a CX video at any point? I used to dream as a kid in the 1980s of having a CX estate because it just looked like some enormous spaceship
Not yet, but I have similar CX memories as a kid, so I'll likely do a video on it.
@@BigCar2 Another vote for a CX video, thanks for all your great work!
My old cx turbo diesel familiare are one of the best cars i will ever have owned, my dad bought a xm and had it for 10 years and only did service on it so they are great cars to have!
Ralf Risberg Why do they have such a bad reputation?
@@nicola6323 HOW would i know why their reputation, People must be stupid or something!
Hooray! Not just a new Big Car video, but one of my favourite cars! Yeah!
Xantia had produced in Iran too between 2001 and 2010 in Saipa group ( auto maker in Iran ).
We had a lot of memories with this car .
Everytime I see an XM I can't help but picture Jeremy Clarkson's 3-story RV attempt
Correction: it was a CX. I am a dumb yank :(
That was a cx
Was it an XM or a CX estate?
CX estate
That's ok, you're welcome here
I chuckled twice. First, at your self mocking. Then at the memory of that RV attempt video. And now, as a Dutch dude, and the chuckles have faded away, I am contemplating my love/hate-relationship with Citroëns. Cheers, Indycoone!
"powered by a 2.1 Diesel from the BX" ??
BX never had 2.1 engine only 1.7 and 1.9 Diesel AFAIK ??
Exactly 1769cc or 1905cc, spent many a hour behind the wheel and under diesel BX's we had a taxi company local that ran nothing but them, they'd all be over 300k in the first 3 years a very good vehicle in its day.
@@-DC- and im still driving one today as a daily driver 👌
Correct, the XUD11 was only fitted on the 605/Xantia/XM. The BX did use a shorter stroked version, but so did a metric ton of other cars.
The 2.1 in the 406 was supreme.
My Peugeot 406s had 2.1 TD & 2.0HDI both 110bhp. I loved my Peugeot 405s&406s.