Logic & Tarantino | The Art of "Stealing"
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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In this video I:
-explain The Art of "Stealing"
-how Logic and Tarantino craft their stories for their movies, mixtapes, albums
-why Michael B Jordan
LOGIC:
Sir Robert Bryson "Bobby" Hall II (born January 22, 1990), known by his stage name Logic, is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, and record producer. Raised in Gaithersburg, Maryland, he signed with Visionary Music Group, before releasing three more mixtapes over three years.
Quentin Tarantino:
Quentin Jerome Tarantino is an up and coming American director, writer, and actor.
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► Footage: Logic | Logic Records Flexicution, 44 More | Take It Back (Music Video) | All I Do (Music Video) | Band of Outsiders | Django Unchained | Pulp Fiction | Gone With The Wind | Psycho | 8 1/2 | Logic Tour Footage | Amazing - Kanye | Black Spiderman (Music Video)
► Interviews: Logic Beats 1 | Logic on Hot Ones | Logic's Incredible Journey (Documentary) | Brad Pitt on Tarantino
► Images: Logic | Everybody | Under Pressure | The Incredible True Story | Bobby Tarantino | Bobby Tarantino II | Chris Webby | 808 & Heartbreaks | Man on the Moon | Eminem Freestyle | Hotline Bling | The Life of Pablo | Quentin Tarantino | Shia Labeouf | Undeniable | Travis Scott | ASAP Rocky | Merry Christmas Lil Mama - Chance the Rapper | The Dark Knight | LotR | Twilight | The Departed | Michael B Jordan
► Fanart: Andrewss23 (Tarantino)
► Music: Everybody - Logic | Contact - Logic | Amazing - Kanye West | Pursuit of Happiness - Kid Cudi | Never Enough - Logic | Under Pressure - Logic | Hotline Bling - Drake | Everyday - Logic | Waves - Kanye West | 44 More - Logic | Contra - Logic
maybe i shouldnt have commented before i finished the video... this kinda opened my mind to the concept of inspiration and making a style and how that fits into the dynamic of the "culture" today. legit not a bad vid at all
Listenn....
Just like what Nas said: "No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun
It's never what you do, but how it's done."
terence wong what song
Logan Roark
No Idea's Original
Tib Khan thanks bro😂💯
Facts.
@The Hip-hop Underworld Kendrick ripped off Aquemini with GKMC...... Stop making it a big fucking deal.
This video so great Im about to steal it
Zipote this comment so good I legit already stole it and commented on this video
Hahaha this made me laugh harder than I thought 😂😂😂
i killed it with the 421st like :(
*Looks at the video description*
*sees the phrase "Quentin Tarantino is an up and coming director"*
Excuse me?
Fixed:
"Quentin Tarantino is a̶n̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶d̶i̶r̶e̶c̶t̶o̶r̶ the G.O.A.T."
Yeah the disrespect to the GOAT is definitely there.
The fact that no one is replying that the description is a very clear joke is making me think that this comment itself is a joke.
The hotline bling comparison was pointless
CornHD the hotling bling with everyday and waves with 44 more. Those last 2 wasn’t even close lol.
Heavy D The Hotline Bling one was pointless, but the one for Waves was close because of the shouting vocal sample used for it. Not the beat/flows or anything. That vocal adlib-shout-thing was the exact same in Waves as in 44 More.
@@jackyvstheworld 6ix sampled it,not logic
The hotline bling one was because the song slows down and the beat changes and it talks about a girl
HE TALKS ABOUT A GIRL? OMG YEAH BECAUSE DRAKE IS THE ONLY ONE TO EVER MAKE A SONG ABOUT A GIRL HAHA YOU KNOB@@jackdenzo
Boi, I'm about to get inspired by this video real quick
LMAO
😂😂😂😂
No, you stole it
Because inspiration doesn't exist
He was quoting Cudi....they are actually friends
James Millard
Obviously
Yeah literally he mentioned him
not at the time he dropped the album...
Nelson Mandela logic went on tour with kid cudi before logics album came out.... are you dumB?
you're lying@@jerads.7160
I love how you took this subject and broke it down so well and as a huge logic fan I can appreciate someone who can see a flaw but still understand what he is doing with his music and his own skill
Read my mind. Great comment
hes sampling. a hip hop song without a sample in my opinion is worst then one with one. no samples = crap
“Good artist copy; great artist steal.” - Pablo Picasso
plural
and hip hop artists samples because its part of hip hop and its great
「 Ju. 」 I
"This is how idea was made: Steal, but *Make it Better* " -- Willam Belli
Charles Garon yeah a lot of people forget the fact that Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and to rap over it
re-worded what you said and used it for a media seminar about Tarantino.
You've made it.
Nice!
"samples more than an elderly person at a Sam's Club" - perfect. lol
halokeeper
It was pretty funny though
Lool I read this just as he said it
Thank god he had a organized video, criticism but he is intelligent and hes not throwing dirt on logics name...he just gained a subsciber
logics best project has and always will be under pressure
The entire album is amazing
The Incredible True Story...
He really followed up well with The Incredible True Story though
@@MattGoetz personally I sometimes prefer TITS over UP, but only sometimes
@@BBGirlSamus Yeah recently I've been bumping True Story way more than I used to and it's just because sometimes the mindset you are in changes how you "hear" the music and how you perceive it and True Story just seems like a more mature UP to me. A more developed character of Bobby.
Hopefully everybody watched the whole video before commenting
Matth I did not. Dislike with the quickness
Most likely not
No need. Logic is a small fries learning life yet thinking his the first man to know it. 2018 kids can "feel" personalities nowadays
yea kids born in 2018 definitly listens to logic....
yo we was chill till you said bobby taratino 2 is his best mixtape. it's welcome to forever hands down 100%
Young Sinatra undeniable?????
Yessir
@@itzlawick that's what I'm sayin!
There’s a difference between a “fan” and a “Stan”
Bobby Tarantino II being his best mixtape?? Man did you listen to all the Young Sinatras?
EXACTLY
Welcome To Forever is easily the best Logic mixtape, BT2 is good but it's his worst mix tape imo
Clearly didnt
@@jd5726 indeed!!!!!!! WELCOME TO FOREVER IS A CLASSIC.
As a Logic fan, I like the way you presented this. You were able to simultaneously point out flaws and also show reasoning as to why he is liked. A lot of musical debates don't do that, so thank you.
P.S. favorite logic song from mixtapes would be inception, from albums it's under pressure (the full version, specifically)
Especially the last part ... :)
As a massive Logic fan I went into this video wanting to immediately dispute him "stealing".However I will say that you had a refreshing view on the difference in stealing and inspiration and where the line is drawn. Personally I agree with you there are so many artists that are "guilty" of this. But with so much music being made everyday and so many new artists emerging one could see how there is overlap sometimes. Overall a fantastic video that really covers all sides of the topic. Oh and my favorite logic song is till the end on Under pressure.
I appreciate you watching the whole thing.
That’s a damn good song too
Lol he made me actually rethink how things work in reality, everything is influenced even classics
Logic has borrowed a lot more than that lol. thats only scratching the surface.
he frequently uses flows and song styles from Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Common, Eminem, MGK, Gambino, Kanye, Travis Scott, Big Sean and even Joey Bada$$ at times.
and yet he's still one of my favorites. 🤷♂️ he gives the credit for stuff that inspires him and shows respect to people.
aside from that, he also has his own original flow, that you can always tell when hes being himself and no one else.
c yeaahh bro be copying rappers. Still playing with his grandads money !
c I’m logic fan. But that’s facts. He does do that. But he’s real. He gives credit. He took it but many of people do that. He still has a great mind for an rapper
c I think that's his appeal. It's that he's somehow made all the culture we know inti his own. A nerd that raps.
Tonii The Shooter it’s called paying homage dumbass
When I saw him in Detroit he literally said “this that Travis” when he was rapping the auto tuned part in Wizard of Oz
I feel like, with logic, when he “steals” lines from other artists it’s just an allusion to that piece. It’s mostly just a little cameo for people who know that piece and I think that is ok. There are some where he uses other’s lines frequently and that’s where my issue arises. But whatever he’s to popular and to rich for anything to change.
And that makes it ok how....
@@Double189 because if you listen to all of logics sounds, albums, and freestyles, you can tell he has real tallent. The words have meaning and the very few cuts he may use from other songs is almost nothing.
This is Hip Hop. Dudes that did what he does as frequently as he does back in the day didnt last long, talent or not.
@@adonis8293 That is very true
Ethan Fast logic is overrated and a lame. He’s weird as hell
This is one of those videos you need to watch to completion before going to the comments
blvckraikage I read this and went back to the video 🙏
blvckraikage nigga raikage was already black like 4 times? Thats like saying white milk. Asian goku. Tall shaq...its self explanatory
James White 👍🏾
James White goku is an alien so nah hes not asian lmao
blvckraikage FACTS! 😂😂
HE’S BEEN HIDING THESE LOGIC REFERENCES..
“Undeniable, Execution,& Take it way back”
👀
He hid an Everybody as well.
Take it way way back to the first black man
...sampling? And the hotline bling one was the biggest reach.
However during the end you made some good points.
Everything is a Remix... watch the doc
ITS SAMPLES YOU FUCKTARD
Charles Garon
“Everything is a Remix” is a documentary that this person is asking people to watch
ikr, shoutout to Kirby1 😊
Hip Hop started by mixing two records to create a beat and rap on it
@@charlesgaron8131 Everything is a Remix is a documentary asshole. Do your research before trying to make someone look stupid.
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Pablo Picasso
but its sampling
@@charlesgaron8131 the difference
logic copies
"Every time I change wives I should burn the last one. That way I'd be rid of them. They wouldn't be around to complicate my existence. Maybe, that would bring back my youth, too. You kill the woman and you wipe out the past she represents." -Pablo Picasso.
Yeah, quote that bastard.
Not the quote at all.
Have you not heard, “ Welcome to Forever?” Bobby Tarantino is not the best mixtape
I know that rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam's club 😂😂
hip hop*, and cause its part of hip hop
I think its very disingenuous to say that an artist like Logic is simply "ordering take out and rearranging it to call it his own" just because you use the same samples as another song in one part doesnt mean by any stretch that the song as a whole is the same. You have to take into account all of the instrumentals, the vibe, beat, and lyrics. Its more like, say I made a painting of a room, and within that room are all of my inspirations. If within the room of the painting there is another small painting on the wall of, say the mona lisa- something iconic and relateable. you cant just shrug off my entire painting saying that the overall painting of the entire room is simply a copy of the mona lisa.
I agree.
That was a broad statement for those who don’t find their voice - I give Logic his props at the end.
Throughout, actually.
He does that on some songs but I wouldn't say that overall. That Travis Scott type song was a straight rip-off, he even copied his ad-lib.
He also just straight-up takes entire lyrics though
I think the mark of a good sample is how transformative it is.
Look at Luther Vandross' "A House Is Not A Home" and Kanye West's "Slow Jamz." The difference between the two songs is shocking. The sample elevates the status of the original song from relative obscurity, and shows that Kanye listens to a lot of diverse music outside of hip-hop.
When Logic samples "Waves", or "Amazing", 1. He isn't elevating the status of Kanye West, because Kanye is already an extremely popular figure, it comes across more like Logic is trying to elevate HIMSELF to Kanye's level, and 2. It doesn't show Logic's dedication to music, because who the fuck hasn't heard those songs. The popularity of Logic's samples comes across more like he's biting their style because those people are still around, still making fucking music. It doesn't feel like he's humbled by their greatness; rather, he's climbing their coat tails to get himself up to their level of greatness.
If this guy was being honest and saw this comment he’d like it. I felt defensive for logic vibes disguised as objectivity lol that’s just my opinion though. Understanding the origin and actually being creative or using it in a new transcendent way is important and your comment shows that
I am logic fan. The title caught my eye, watched the full video. We’ll said and agree with most of your points. You got yourself a new sub!
Jacob your obviously not a real logic fan, he clearly just uses samples and says a sentence from a rappers song that he loves
I wouldn't say he's rearranging the food on a plate and calling it his own, I'd say it's more like he's Using the same plate as other artists with his own recipe on top.
That's the most accurate analogy I've ever read.
Yeah If his recipe is a combination of other artists recipes. This dude has used so many other artists sound, & it’s the exact reason I stopped listening to him recently. Plus he uses the same words & even sometimes bars a lot. Dude has rhymed every word that ends with -ated in like 40% of his songs. Logic is a fan of hip hop that wants to mash all his favorite aspects of it together. He’s not trying to create his own lane.
VinnyThePooh More like same recipe with a different colour plate.
You can give the same ingredients to different chefs and get two VERY different dishes. Similarly two artists using the same components in their art (music or film) can still result in two distinct pieces of art.
Estryus Flemming - We're having this discussion because there is debate on the issue. While the use of sampling, covering, remixing, homaging and other forms of creatively "copying" has been in use for decades, there remains a strain of thought that any form of influence from your predecessors must be attenuated as much as possible.
I always looked at logics style as if:
1: He's A guy who has been through alot has alot to talk about.
2: Who has a crazy ability to rap unlike alot of people.
3: Has alot of influences and proudly shows it while also at the same time still knows how to put his style on it.
Okay name a single song that he didn’t take lyrics, a flow, or a beat from somebody else. Make me 1 single song and I will find you the original work logic and six copied.
Dont Worry about it did you watch the video or read the comment correctly?? Lmao I don’t think you paid attention. The kid in the comment said he has a lot of influences. No one said he has any song that isn’t influenced. Nothing is new anymore. If you were to try to find a song from this year alone I can promise you that it would be pretty damn hard to find a song that won’t have similar lyrics, beat, or flow to a different work. Nothings new man. Pay a little attention
@@markharell5320 kendrick drake and j cole are all original. stfu scrub
his rapping isnt that crazy. and all he does is copy
@@montezleamonte1445 Dear God, 500 Days of Summer
My favorite Logic song?
#DeadPresidentsIIIAllTheWay
#DeadPresidentsIIIAllTheWay :)
PopGreen_Master chhjv
That song is fuckin dope
:Welcome back Tv: logic just don't give a fuck. Ratt pack
Dead presidents not to be confused with Growing pains 3
I agree that basically nothing is original anymore and it's all about execution.
EDIT: Also I just lost it at the Michael B. Jordon bit.
lol Kanye - Waves is also a sampled track.
Logic is like an always-inspiring learner. A pro is he is able to change to styles that people use. A con is he isn't experimental. Jack of all trades but master of none.
“Jack of all trades is a master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one” say the whole quote not just part of it.
@@itstroy4145 nah
@@LargeInCharge77 no one was talking to you
Bro what? He has mastered boom nap and to say otherwise is foolish
Damn he said if you take something and make it your own. Now others wanna steal it 🔥.
11 minutes of my life completely wasted. U have no point at all. You literally contradicted yourself the whole video lmao
This why you are my favorite RUclipser!!! A little older but I was talking to my nieces and nephews who are in their teens... I was trying to explain to them and I ended up showing them exactly what you just started with... How his shit is borrowed heavily!!!
ccole99 RUclipser is that like a Disney Imagineer?
Do you actually listen to rap? If you did, you'd know that when rappers use a line from another song, they're paying homage to that artist.
Brittany Jorgensen like J. Cole in Adolescence, when he says “I grew up, a fuckin screw up.” shits nice. idk why people complain bout it
ccole99 but their all samples. Even the kid cudi line he said in an interview how he called cudi up and asked if he could use it even checked with his label and manager. Yeah he samples alot but every rapper samples. For the most part most beats on the mixtape were created by "6ix" his producer
Brittany Jorgensen yes, matter fact I remember my very first tape that’s right tape of the chronic!!! My dad bought it for me because I told him that George Clinton was on the tape... That was 94 or so... i’ve been alive long enough to watch wrap go from something that people just think is evil to the phenomena that is now... From Will Smith winning the first Grammy for rap album to triple six mafia winning Oscar for best song... One thing I can say is opinions are like assholes we all have one
I drew that Tarantino cartoon at the 2:17 mark back in 2013. It was actually part of a bigger artwork that I was designing as a gift for my friend's birthday. How did you find it?
Googled Tarantino PNG and popped up on related.
Cited it under “Andrews 23”, is that you?
Well, my DeviantArt name is Andrewss23 (with TWO 's'es), but you were close enough, so yes, that's me.
Gotcha, updated
Good stuff!
Thanks! I appreciate it!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with taking samples and inspiration from other songs and albums, I love logic and I love the artists he 'straight up jacked' from, he's a very talented artist with a bigger and even brighter future ahead of him #Rattpack
You know I read this title thinking that this guy was going to go in on Logic and call him out on stealing a bunch of shit. But after all the points he gives, im glad I heard him out. Great video!
Logic and stealing in the same sentence ? Pump your brakes! **watches before judgement**
Under Pressure will be his best work ever, nothing will ever top it because of how corny he has become.
Idk. Welcome to forever comes close. And the way, Young Sinatra: Ultra 85 - is looking. Be hard to tell
Young Sinatra IV is coming out soon, and so far the stuff Logic put out a few weeks before, like his YSIV freestyle, One Day, The Return, they all seem promising.
you mean metropolis?
TITS shits all over UP.
agreed
You slick boi, I saw that undeniable when you said undeniable
An amazing video. One of the most reasonable and constructive discussions I've heard about "stealing"/sampling/influence, etc.
iAzteca agree hahah
“...You can never criticize the artist you like...” HAHAHAHA then Logic just dropped COADM and practically the entire RattPack is inventing theories about how there’s gonna be an entire second half to this album because of how disappointing it is.
*The Art of Sampling
I really love Logic, probably my favorite artist, but I always understand where people are coming from when they talk about his influencers and if they don't fully appreciate him. But holy hell, Bobby Tarantino 2 is a near perfect mixtape for me. Just a fun time. Although, he does contradict himself SO MUCH... its still really lit. Love the video, really great parallels between Tarantino and Young Sinatra himself!
Ryan St. Hilaire what do you mean contradicts himself?
yh logic said bobby taratino mixtapes aren't serious projects they're just for fun and to vibe
Rap is not about the beat its about the lyrics just because a beat is similar it doesn't mean that they are bad
If you had good lyrics over a fart sound you wouldn’t listen to it. Beats in rap are equal to lyrics in the building of hip hop as a culture and personally I feel like they can be more important
It is always about the beat bro
@@ryanb.carden255 false. Bears eat beats. Bears, beats, battle star galactica
What is your favorite Logic song?
#Flexicution
The AtZ Show Never Been! I'm a HUGE Logic fan, but this is a great video. Well done, sir.
Are you a pusha t fan
Warm it up
Definatly Man of the year.
Had such an impact on me
925
This is called an Interpolation. Its the artists own twist on the original.
its called sampling fuckhead
Charles Garon dude can you get lost?? 😂😂 you’re on everybody ass for no reason
Interpolation and sampling are really similar but they aren't the same. Interpolation focuses more on delivery, intonation and just general style. Listen to GOMD by J. Cole or Normal Girl by SZA and you'll notice how similar they are to the original but is used for a different purpose.
not everyone can actually make a really good sounding beat. as bright as logic is, he needs inspiration to come up with his hits and musical composition is something he needs to spark that. if he could do both he would've been a god. like if he could mix and master and rap all by himself without a single other hand.. damn
I love your videos man. They’re always so well put together and informational. As a huge logic fan you hit the nail on the head with your plot points. Thanks for this video man
DearNurse Nicole fuck logic
It’s actually plot points not point plots
Mythical Titan that’s what I meant lol thanks though
DearNurse Nicole he definitely did
The problem is, Logic takes so much "inspiration" from other rappers, that if those rappers didn't exist, Logic wouldn't exist. If Logic didn't exist, Kanye would still be putting out good music and Kendrick would still pump out classics. Like, if other rappers were to disappear, what would Logic do? He takes "inspiration" so much, but doesn't have his own sound.
How would logic’s existence affect Kanye’s music ? 🫠
@@GCASTROOO1 your question isnt related to what I said at all
@@skeletonizer7512 “if Logic didn’t exist, Kanye would still be putting out good music….”
I get the part where you said “ if those rappers didn’t exist , Logic wouldn’t exist “ but that second part has me like 🧐😐
@@GCASTROOO1 I ment that logics existence would not affect kanyes music
I see it as more paying homage to the original flows or samples he uses but I am boast because I love him
Bias
C'mon "crush a bit, little bit, roll it up, take a hit" is something schoolboy q has used as well. Plenty of rappers have said it just like C.R.E.A.M. Imo I don't think logic copies. It's similar but it's not copying. Even the hotline bling comparison I didn't really see copying I just saw a similar style in a different beat. The only one I could see is the contact song since that beat is almost exactly like amazing except a little slower.
I LOVE LOGIC
Salty Tea ok...?
“Rap samples more than an elder person at a Sam’s club” thank you sir you just ghost wrote some of my bars 🤷🏿♂️
Damone Tyrell STEALING
Bobby Clark “SAMPLING”
I liked the video and the fact your doing both criticism and positives towards Logic being influenced and stuff. If I have to say who does it the best, in my opinion I have to say Eminem. If you look at his songs he has some that straight up use music/lyrics from popular songs and makes them his own. Like rhyme or reason and in your head are two big examples.
yeah I love the under pressure album but it just sounds like a reskin of GKMC to me
Who can relate!
WOO!
"Once you've made something that's worthy of being stolen itself, then I think you've made it".......DAAAAAAAAMNN DUDE
6:30 when you talked about your OPINION on The Godfather I and II. I was about to unsubscribe. But I like the channel, so I’ll let it pass this time.
The whole channel is opinion
"Good artists copy; great artists steal."
If you're any kind of creative person, you already know the difference and what they mean.
100%
*I’m biracial*
[Insert very funny, original and new joke here]
How do you catch a unique rabbit?
YouNeak up on it
Ha.Ha.Ha
Hi biracial, I'm dad
ok sakura
Wanna know something? We wouldnt be anything without the people before us.
Was going to dislike till I watched excellent analysis will definitely be subscribing.
Perfect! This is the definition of analysis, viewing a topic from all aspects without bias! Critical feedback is what pushes up to greatness, people just don’t like hearing their flaws...but the great take it and improve upon it.
There is no such a thing as an "original" idea, it just doesn't exist.
Everything was, is, and will be inspired by something else, and we are condemned to it.
Nothing that you think you know came from nowhere, we only choose how to express it.
all of this is sampling how is it copying
Diego Medina how can u sample flows?
888extreme no one seems to have a problem with Drake jacking flows and entire bars from other artists. Why does Logic catch all the flack?
Ron Fuquay drake constantly gets hate for stealing but I don't know why most people let him slide.. It pisses me off.
Sazid _ DREAM DID care, but there was nothing he could do, he was hoping for a shout-out at least and felt he got ripped off.
because he doesn't turn the samples into anything original
I think some people are getting inspired by Logic , and mostly show that in other ways but not in music. Like doing what they love. & Aye I listened to this whole video and I do see what you mean . I totally agree Logic has been inspired by others but I feel he makes it his own.
i do music and logic inspires me with the stuff he does
Ive been a Logic fan for a long time and youre right. I hate how everyone thinks artists are "stealing" when really they're js inspired and trying to chase their dream. Logic is talented as hell and definitely deserves respect. You explain and understand! Subscribed!
The entirety of Logic's last 2 albums have 0 original ideas in them.
Let’s see you do better
@@buzzhype9744 Lmao, are you twelve?
My best bass teacher taught me that the best way to come up with your own music is to look at the playing of others and learn it, and then splice it all together to create your own sound. I'm not plagiarizing if I learn the same lick as my favorite bass player, I'm not plagiarizing if I use that lick in my own solos and creation, but I if I use that lick over the same backing with the same context, we have a different story. Even though Logic is using beats and even some lines that don't belong to him, they're more like allusions to famous rap titles and artists rather than blatant stealing. Logic is so good because he knows the sounds he likes, from the artists he likes, and how to present it all to his fans while still being original. This creates a holistic sounding mega album that is mass produced and circulated through millions of hands, while, again, still being original. In this sense, he's merely following in the footsteps of artists of his monetary and commercial calibre (Kendrick, Rihanna, etc)
Half of this comment is accurate and the other half is riding Logic, what is original? Trippie Redd and Carti have more unique work in their songs, lyric/flow/melody wide within the past 2 albums than Logic has had across his last 5
@@tb8654 4 years after writing this comment I can definitely agree that I was riding Logic there. I think I was just trying to get at the fact that he made it as a successful artist because of those traits. His album is original in the sense that he didn't plagiarize the work but the song ideas themselves aren't original
@@evsanger crap I didn't even notice it was YEARS 😭 I def agree on that bro, I do like Logic both musically and as a person
He didnt say he's the greatest of all time, but he said he's the greatest at what he do. He's the greatest in the art of stealing, respectfully. But its not stealing, its retroactively paying homage, but with a twist he's actually using something similar to something familar made by his famous artist to attract new fans by using his twist or influence on it, whether its the cadence/flow, lyrics or track/instrumental. Kinda like reverse psychology in a sense like, maybe by using something ppl are used in his unique way, he promote his message to ppl who wouldnt give it a look, otherwise. The power of suggestion with a familar phrase or sound, maybe.
@Stan Henderson Does he know everyone who's apart of & has contributed to the Art of Stealing. If not, how can he decide that?
It’s called an homage you clout chaser
PREAACH, IVE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS... godfather2 > godfather1
ALL of them lmao 😂
na lmao
JRA RAPPER! Everyone says that i think you sampled that
Nah.. The Godfather: Part III > The Godfather, The Godfather: Part II
Sofia Coppola was far too magnificent in the film.
"To when your grandma was naming your parents everyone steals" please explain your parents being siblings.
Maybe your grandma knew your other grandma and gave her a name suggestion... That grew up to be your other parent
*This video is so good I'm about to steal it*
This comment is stolen
The way I look at it is no artist, to my knowledge, has called Logic out for "stealing" their beat, flow, line, etc.(Iguess Joyner for that 1-800 song). But really the only people getting mad or bringing it up are fans. Obviously, these artists know Logic and if they felt Logic was taking their shit, they would call him on it. Logic has been very open about who inspires him, and I see his "stealing" more as tributes to those artists who inspire him. Whats that saying, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery." Anyways I thought this was a great video! I bet you write great argumentative essays haha
not a logic fan at all. but its called sampling and everything he sampled was almost already taken from another samples sooooo ''lol''
Josh he gets inspired by a lot of people like Sinatra Kanye all those people. 1-800 was not stolen from Joyner. Joyner made a number album 1-800 is a number song to complete different things
Josh fax
He stole Freddie Gibbs album cover to the tee and got called out
Damn you really went in because I initially thought this was gonna be very opinionated but really this was very informative
Great video man! I have never seen your stuff and I was pleasantly surprised by the level headed attitude on this subject. As a guy in a band, I can tell you that you got alot of these things right from the perspective of many musicians. I think your point about whether anyone can call themselves the best if the steal is really valid. I have been forced in my time in college to study music history, and I can tell you that this has been happening forever. Beethoven was hugely inspired by Haydn and Mozart and he is considered by many to be the most influential composer in that realm of music. The difference is like you said, setting yourself apart, and for rap that usually means lyrically, at least for me. I think the Cudi rip that you showed is an example of logic stealing, but to specifically show the love to a huge influence of his. I personally don't think logic is the best to do it, not because he steals from others, but that he recycles lyrics from mixtape to album of vice versa. Everything aside though, it seems like you are doing good, thoughtful videos and I'll be checking more out. I'll leave you with a quote from Stravinsky to double down on how good your thoughts on the subject are. "A good composer does not imitate, he steals."
A real fan will tell the person they support honest opinions . That’s the #rattpack
No one has EVER broken down the “copycat” mentality as accurately as you have and for that, you have earned a sub keep up the good work
I saw the title and instantly clicked. I’ve always talked to friends about how Logic and Tarantino are similar because of how they take inspiration and wear them on their sleeve. Thank you for making this video, I gotta show some friends this.
In my opinion 1-3 lines are inspiration it becomes stealing when they jack a verse
It is because of Logic that I started listening to A Tribe Called Quest, Kanye, Cudi, Kendrick, and J Cole. so many roots
ps. my favorite logic song has to be Buried Alive or YS3. rattpack
I like logic but what u say is true
I'LL STEAL IT, NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW
Hit the nail on the head with those points. Thanks to Logic, I listened to more music I haven't been exposed before. Favorite track of Logic is definitely Soul Food followed by City of Stars.
Drake uses that method but isn’t perfect at it yet 😂
he uses the method but hes the biggest rapper on the planet, and it's paid off a lot
What is the definition of a MIX TAPE? As in the difference between an EP or LP and a MIX TAPE. I'm 37 so to me a MIX TAPE is made with two cassette players and given to a middle school crush! Thanks.
Emerald damn! Was it my use of terms like LP and EP or the fact that I said was 37?
I believe a mixtape is a compilation of the artist music(s) they want to release online but for free download. no paywall, on SoundCloud, their website, etc.
Daniel Gamez thanks, that makes sense.
LP stands for long player which is normally the length of a standard album 10 tracks or more. EP stands for extended player and it's shorter than the length of a normal album so around 2-6 songs 8 at most. A mixtape can be as many songs as it wants it's normally made up of throw away tracks from the artist and songs that aren't mixed and mastered properly. Normally the tracks have no connection to each other it's just fun stuff for the fans.
mostly mixtapes are little albums with sometimes used beats.
Tracks get sample
Lyrics get sample
We all grew up with many inspirations so I’ll call this video that he was inspired.
Same way Nas Illmatic was inspired with so much jazz but we wouldn’t call it stealing. Same way J Cole used Biggie lines on three different tracks inspired. Everyone in 90s had sample beats and sample lyrics
I’ve been listening to logic for years now and now I feel like he’s being very egotistical.
Hmm, how?
Everyone borrows ideas from everyone
The truth is that every thing you know
is borrowed hence the term being "influenced"
I agree 100% with this!
But some people are so focused on what’s original and what’s not- that they have correlated what’s “un original “ to “not being good “
For example I wasn’t into rap at all. Until I listened to logic .
And because of that , I started to explore more.
I Moved on to cole, kendrick, gang star!
Shit like that.
Yet I still dont fuck with most rappers music because what they stand for or speak about is boring and repetitive (bitches money and drugs)
Logic is simply taking something good and making it even better.
That’s why people gravitate to him.
most rappers can’t keep my attention 🤷🏻♂️
His lyrics are so 1 dimensional. You really can’t pick it apart. He’s just very shallow to me
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Bounce is pretty awesome