14:05 In violin repair, this is called the "mouse". They are usually put back in the instrument, for luck. (No joke)... Thanks for another great video!
That guitar has been very extensively modded. Replacement fingerboard and binding; refinished (this is redder than an original); not originally a 2 pickup guitar (the switch on a real ES 175D is on the upper bout); tailpiece doesn't look quite like a real Gibson TP; knobs look wrong; replacement bridge; added strap button on the neck heel. Plus the stuff that Ted highlighted (at least one non-Gibson pickup; refret). Definitely an oddball. There's a story there.
Good observation!. Fretboard looks like ebony instead of rosewood, neck bindings and position markers are (similar to L5, Byrdland an JS model) not the usual split parallelogram, bridge pickup is to far down (compare other ES 175D), tailpiece could be correct these were used since the 40s (although this one looks chrome instead of nickel), knobs were used by Gibson (but these look somewhat new), double ring tuners not earlier than 1960.... a lot of things can happen in 60+ years....
That 175 appears to have a fretboard replacement. It *looks* like ebony. It's not from an L-5 because it doesn't have the point at the bottom of the fretboard. It's not from an L-7, which is rosewood, and both of those are 25.5" scale guitars. Might be from a Les Paul custom with the double edge binding. Or, it's a non-Gibson fretboard.
@@jbafromny I don't either. What other Gibson fretboard has the double binding and is 24.75"? An ES-355 doesn't have the double binding. Maybe an early Epi Sheraton, done at the Gibson factory but that would have the triangles in the block inlays. I even have some doubts about the treble pickup being original.
@@alanpecherer5705 I would guess it was custom made by some other luthier (not Gibson), maybe inspired the way Jimmy D'Aquisto replaced the board on Jim Hall's 175 with ebony and block markers.
Suffering through Bipolar II and you help keep me centered and excited for life. Can't wait to start an apprenticeship someday :) Thank you for documenting your work and taking the time out
I look forward every week for your video,Its almost sad when they are over. I enjoy the way you explain the history and repair methods you use.Thanks for sharing your knowledge and content.
Hi, use a heat gun and put aright angle bend in your electronic can cleaner nozzle . I have several of these nozzle that I have formed with a heat gun in various shapes so I can get cleaner and lubricant in hard to reach places. I keep them in a draw and pull them out when I need them. Thought this might help. Also I have found using forceps helps with maneuvering in these tight spaces along with string(which you are using) I have a variety of forceps sizes Ricky from IBM, Ret
Another option is to cut a length of wound guitar string the same length as the plastic straw and put them inside a piece of heat shrink tubing and shrink it with the heat gun, so that you have a malleable, bendable piece of wire formed alongside of the plastic straw. This way you can curve it and bend it and unbend it as needed.
2 weeks short of my 65th birthday, I learned "Carapaces"... I've tried to learn 1 thing every day of my life, so I'm done for today. Cheers from N. Carolina
I just figured this out. I watch this show the same way I watch Bob Ross. No, I'm never going to do this type of work, but can appreciate an artist doing their thing and explaining it. He even has his own repeated call outs. Instead of "happy little trees" , here we have "penetration is paramount".
Nicest , strongest 12 string I have seen is a 1965 Epiphone that used a TailStock instead of the standard bridge saddle combination. I tried to get it but couldn't come up with a deal
One pre-Snark trick to tuning a 12 string is first tune the regular 6 strings, then tune the octave and unison pairs to the previously tuned regular set.
I wonder if the guitar was custom ordered. I've never seen a ES175D with multi bound ebony fretboard with MOP inlays. I know Gibson offered the ES175D with rosewood fingerboard with the split parallelogram inlays. The other oddity is the toggle switch on the lower horn. Standard position would be the upper bought. Still a cool guitar from the history of Gibson.
Could have started life as a stock one pickup, then maybe returned to the factory for upgrades? Only other 175 I know of with the ebony/blocks was Jim Hall’s
instead of a drinking straw, try a piece of silicone air line from an aquarium. Fits perfectly over the knurl of a pot, and really holds on when you are pulling the pots through the holes.
I was a Power Quality specialist for 30 years, and have designed a number of clean rooms. Anyway just trust me, dust of conductive. How conducive is dependant on what the dust is made up of. In a house 60 to 90% of dust is made up of human skin and other organic compounds, if your in a place such as a fire station it could be Diesel soot. Even in a concrete warehouse the dust is conducive. Actually very conducive. I was involved in the design of a back up system that was designed to backed up a system that controlled a Nuclear Power system. My company was responsible for the UPS, Gen Set and transfer switch. The batteries were to be supplied by the end user. Unfortunately they ordered and received those batteries before everything else was ready. There were redesign after redesign and finally, after a full year, the UPS was ready for commissioning and the system failed. Turns out the end user let the batteries rest directly on the concrete floor. The dust was conducive enough that after a year all the power in the batteries was completely drained. Enough so, that even using pulse chargers the batteries would not hold a charge. Did I mentioned the batteries were worth 2 million.
As an audio technician with a fair bit of experience working on tube amps, I can confirm that dust can and does conduct, especially in a humid environment. Dust settling onto tube sockets can cause short circuits between adjacent terminals, especially in a humid environment, because it's not uncommon for output tubes to have anywhere from 350 to 500 plus volts DC on them.
Ted, your skill and patience is inspiring. I have no love for hollow or semi hollow electric guitars without a control cavity access from the back. The one reason I do not own one.
@@mattrogers1946 That depends on the situation. In my case, I felt I needed the access hole. I wanted a piezo, which meant installing a preamp and a jack. Also, I had to address stability issues with the top.
I had that model 12 string. It was ok. Part of the Westerly Collection, made in China, based off of the guitars made from 1967-2001 in Westerly RI. But I replaced it with THREE vintage actual Westerly RI made Guilds. A 1973 D40, 1980 D25 and 1990 D2512 (the 12 string model used by Tom Petty). As a born and raised Rhode Island musician, its great to have guitars that were built here.
I can’t believe I’m trying to tell Mr Woodford anything, but… I always use fish tank tubing to hold pots into a hollow guitar because it seems to work better than string.
"It also smells pretty heavily of **basement**." VERY evocative :D "Most metal tailpiece ever. Thirty years ahead of its time!" Looks like a Starfleet Commander's insignia from some alternate Star Trek timeline.
Could be a replaced finger board or Custom order ...looking at the holes for the neck pickup and the switch position, they look like an add on, they do not look Factory drilled
My guess would be that it's the pickup itself. I've had the exact same experience with P-90s where the coil windings were "self-tapping" through a short in the coil wire. Great video, as always!
I once owned a 63 ES 175D sunburst with humburkers and it was in really good condition which I purchased in 2016 for 1200.00. I sold it for 2000 in 2017 and I regret it. Thanks for your time and the great videos. Play on!
Hey Ted, get one of those "pot cleaning caps" from Stew-Mac. It allows you to spray the cleaner into the pot (around the shaft), without having to remove the pot from the body first. Might be a time and frustration saver on a hollow body guitar. Don't think it fits on metric pot, though.
We have a similar vintage syringe- like pump at the audio shop I work for, probably 40 or more years old (made by GC or Pomona, IIRC) but it too is for SAE/Imperial thread potentiometer shafts. It lookes like a cross between a miniature bicycle-tire pump and a syringe; fill it with control cleaner, screw onto the pot shaft, and push on the piston. It would be more usefull if I made threaded adaptors to use it on metric pots....
i tried one of those with high hopes, but it mostly just seemed to be a way of getting contact cleaner all over your hands and the top without actually getting it down inside the pot instead i've had decent luck with gently heating and bending the end of the little straw that goes into the spray can, that lets me get the cleaner up into the pot from underneath through the F-hole
I appreciate your full examination of the guitar prior to making any repairs or changes.... Some just focus on the immediate problem and not the entire instrument. Well done!
is it possible that the bridge pickup was added to it later? The switch location is wrong for later 175's and does not have the poker chip. Again, just a guess that someone added the bridge pickup and switch later.
I know you've said in the past that humidifiers don't work. But as someone that installed a properly sized whole house one last summer. They do work, my house has bean 50% -+5% sins I installed it. And that is in a 130 year old house with old windows just a few hours north of you. Anyway, I wanted to thank you for these videos. They gave me the confidence to do more advanced work (making new nuts, custom bridge intonation etc) for my partner's growing and collection.
...Many years ago I stopped using contact/switch cleaner and instead use WD40, it cleans just as effectively but lasts far longer, I had a radio with a sticky pot' and maybe twice a month I had to clean it again with contact cleaner, then I did it with WD40 and it hasn't crackled since (over 18 months)...also you can buy the cans with the flexible tube so it makes it easy to get into difficult areas...hope that's useful to yourself or anyone else, I've certainly benefited from your channel, thanks for sharing your knowledge... :- )
You should give GIBBS Brand Lubricant a try. It’s a superior product for countless applications, and is an outstanding choice for any electronic component, especially those of a precision nature. It’s a bit expensive (a little goes a long way) , and it doesn’t harm wood, or painted/finished surfaces.
The bridge pickup on the Gibson might not be shorted out. Someone working on the guitar might have put the magnets back in wrong, because they are supposed to have like poles facing. When you take out a P-90 the magnets want to jump right out because the like poles are opposed. If someone put the magnets in the easy way, with the poles in opposition, you’ll get a little detectable output but nothing like what you get when the magnets are correctly placed.
The pickup selector switch is on the lower bought, like the 1954 version I found, but the 1953,1955, and 1956 versions I found all have the pickup selector on the upper bought, as do humbucker versions from 1957 on........?
If I am correct, Gibson also made a three quarter size 175 style guitar and they are very rare now. Love the Gibson ES175 but the best is the fabulous short scale Brydland. AUD$15,000 and up in Australia. Love your work mate.
It's actually a "fuzz-tone" ball; an owner-instaled modification to make the guitar suitable for grungy rock and roll. It will only be good for playing jazz now!
The ES 175 in the video has an L5 Ebony fingerboard and multi layer binding fitted instead of the usual rosewood fingerboard with single layer binding and the usual ES 175 double parallelogram inlays - ( perhaps a special order made for original customer from Gibson Factory ? )
i just found woodford a few weeks ago,, on a train. my guitar has never sounded so good. i spend a lot of time on a train. thank you matey, all the way from glasgow.
Thanks Ted for your videos on Sunday's. It makes my weekend perfect and gave me a lot of knowledge about guitar repair. You get always my thumbs up. Please keep on doing this good guitar jobs. Greetings from Germany. Eugen
I picked up on some of those anomalies, too. I have a '51 175, and I tried to learn a lot about them before buying. Mine is a single P-90, tall knobs, Klusons, old style tailpiece. Never had any repairs except for new frets and nut (by Gibson). and no extra strap button added! Still solid but plenty of graceful even wear by probably a sit down player. It sounds great! Ted amazing, great work and the most articulate luthier out there!
Hi TED, saw a greeat trick. Remove Control knobs and slip a piece of plastic tubing over shaft. 2=3 ft. of tubing To replace POT, just pull the whole thing back iinto place. Viola'
Hello, I had a couple of ideas, not really related to this video, but after watching a lot from your channel. You may have already thought of these, but anyway here they are. I wondered in using a down cut bit when deepening fret slots would eliminate any risk of tearout or chipping. I thought of this when watching rout a new pick guard and wondered if you might get chipping when machining the plastic. My hobby is making loudspeakers and I have a quite modestly priced digital multimeter which allows me to measure inductance and capacitance, as well as the usual other measurements. I thought that such a thing could be helpful to you for measuring suspect capacitors, and maybe checking pickups. Thanks for your videos, John
the thing to do while the pickup was out would have been to measure its DC resistance directly; my guess is it's got an open coil, so it still makes noise when you tap it with a screwdriver and generates a little sound but that's it
Yup, even a pickup with an open coil can still make sound because of the capacitance between the windings. In this case I suspect hat long term storage in a damp environment may have caused some of the windings to corrode and short-circuit themselves together, lessening the length and impedance of the coil.
It's a shame a valuable guitar like the ES 175 has been neglected like that. I guess at least the owner brought it in so that's good. Sweet sounding guitar.
This comment doesn't have to do with this video. I am a long time fan of your exceptional repair skills and I just recently re-watched one of your many Les Paul neck repairs. I believe this one was from February 2022. I was just struck again by how awesome of a skilled/ (gifted) Luthier you actually are !! You are the type of Luthier who if it was at all any way possible for me to apprentice under you , I would literally do whatever I could to be able to do that !! I'm not just blowing smoke ...I truly believe you are that talented and that as much as I Love playing guitars and also building and working on them, I believe it would be an Honor to apprentice under someone as gifted & talented, such as yourself. Just thought I would share that w/ you. Sincerely, Jeff Krainer ~
Love seeing a 175 show up. That's not the original fretboard, or at least inlays and binding are off. The second pickup must have been added later. The selector switch is not in the typical spot. I'm guessing around the same time they put a set of 4 newer knobs on, those don't look vintage. The bridge is the right style, but something about it also looks newer than it should.
my first "real" guitar was a Fender acoustic 12 string, back around 1975 or so, which I wish I had kept, but I traded it in on a Mossman 6 string in 1976, which I still have. I now have a Harley Benton jumbo 12 string and a Danelectro electric 12 string. Love both of them except when it comes time for new strings!
As a long time Guild fan - my first not-awful guitar was an early 70's D-35 - it makes me sad to know that they make many or most of their guitars in China. I know, everyone does that (Rickenbacker notwithstanding) these days, but still. That 12 did sound fine however, so they're doing that right anyway. It'll sound great until it explodes and/or the finish disintegrates! Appreciated the history of the 175. For some reason I had associated that model more with early rockers, but that's clearly not the case. Too bad about that bridge pickup. Nobody likes the kind of fiddly work that it's going to require to fix it. The neck pickup shows how good the guitar sounds though. I wonder if the jazz guys ever use the bridge pickup at all? Can't see Joe Pass getting twangy, ever. Perhaps between Synanon sessions...
Finally…and maybe I missed an episode, after watching your wonderful videos for years, an Authentic ES-175. I almost bought one, but went with a Heritage Eagle. Quickly figured out I wasn’t a jazz player, but Ren at Hertiage couldn’t have been better. End result is I enjoy and appreciate your work. Thank you.
I’m betting the bridge PUP is some crappy aftermarket replacement with a short in the winding …all that takes is a little lacquer deterioration on the winding wire, caused by the damp storage. Was probably done in the 70s when someone installed the totally inappropriate jumbo frets. Maybe the owner was really into “Yes” or something 😂
I adore the sound of 12 string guitars but I could never own one, keeping it in tune would probably drive me mad unless it was a super expensive model that was stable with tuning. That Gibson neck pickup is what the word 'creamy' was invented for.
Those machinist's rules are absolutely perfect for measuring action on guitars. The idea sprang to mind a few weeks ago so I ordered myself one and it's a must-have tool, IMO. Looks like I probably got the idea from here. Good to know 👌The fact that those can come marked in 64ths or mm with a decimal conversion table on the back makes them that much more useful.
14:05 In violin repair, this is called the "mouse". They are usually put back in the instrument, for luck. (No joke)... Thanks for another great video!
That guitar has been very extensively modded. Replacement fingerboard and binding; refinished (this is redder than an original); not originally a 2 pickup guitar (the switch on a real ES 175D is on the upper bout); tailpiece doesn't look quite like a real Gibson TP; knobs look wrong; replacement bridge; added strap button on the neck heel. Plus the stuff that Ted highlighted (at least one non-Gibson pickup; refret). Definitely an oddball. There's a story there.
Good observation!. Fretboard looks like ebony instead of rosewood, neck bindings and position markers are (similar to L5, Byrdland an JS model) not the usual split parallelogram, bridge pickup is to far down (compare other ES 175D), tailpiece could be correct these were used since the 40s (although this one looks chrome instead of nickel), knobs were used by Gibson (but these look somewhat new), double ring tuners not earlier than 1960.... a lot of things can happen in 60+ years....
And pickguard is bolt on the body....
That 175 appears to have a fretboard replacement. It *looks* like ebony. It's not from an L-5 because it doesn't have the point at the bottom of the fretboard. It's not from an L-7, which is rosewood, and both of those are 25.5" scale guitars. Might be from a Les Paul custom with the double edge binding. Or, it's a non-Gibson fretboard.
I don't think it's a Gibson board at all.
@@jbafromny I don't either. What other Gibson fretboard has the double binding and is 24.75"? An ES-355 doesn't have the double binding. Maybe an early Epi Sheraton, done at the Gibson factory but that would have the triangles in the block inlays. I even have some doubts about the treble pickup being original.
@@alanpecherer5705 I would guess it was custom made by some other luthier (not Gibson), maybe inspired the way Jimmy D'Aquisto replaced the board on Jim Hall's 175 with ebony and block markers.
Ted’s videos are always a real treat to watch and to learn from. 👍👍
Suffering through Bipolar II and you help keep me centered and excited for life.
Can't wait to start an apprenticeship someday :)
Thank you for documenting your work and taking the time out
17:33 heat shrink tubing?
I look forward every week for your video,Its almost sad when they are over. I enjoy the way you explain the history and repair methods you use.Thanks for sharing your knowledge and content.
Hi, use a heat gun and put aright angle bend in your electronic can cleaner nozzle . I have several of these nozzle that I have formed with a heat gun in various shapes so I can get cleaner and lubricant in hard to reach places. I keep them in a draw and pull them out when I need them.
Thought this might help. Also I have found using forceps helps with maneuvering in these tight spaces along with string(which you are using) I have a variety of forceps sizes
Ricky from IBM, Ret
Another option is to cut a length of wound guitar string the same length as the plastic straw and put them inside a piece of heat shrink tubing and shrink it with the heat gun, so that you have a malleable, bendable piece of wire formed alongside of the plastic straw. This way you can curve it and bend it and unbend it as needed.
Thank the Lord. You’ve rounded off my weekend perfectly by uploading this. Much appreciated Ted. Cheers from London, England.
Sometimes it requires intervention from Jesus to get a new video from Ted.
Watching it now before falling to sleep happy!
Likewise piggy-back sentiment from Austin, TX. I consider them as the start of a new, hopefully woe-free week. 😊
It's London.
Not, London blah blah!
2 weeks short of my 65th birthday, I learned "Carapaces"...
I've tried to learn 1 thing every day of my life, so I'm done for today.
Cheers from N. Carolina
I just figured this out. I watch this show the same way I watch Bob Ross. No, I'm never going to do this type of work, but can appreciate an artist doing their thing and explaining it. He even has his own repeated call outs. Instead of "happy little trees" , here we have "penetration is paramount".
On board with all the comments Ted but as an Englishman and defender of our language, it's " solder"not "sodder". Great work as always.
It's the end of the weekend when Ted brings us along for the ride... back to the salt mines!!!
Man that 12 string sounded loud, even through the video, very nice!
That's quite the loudest 12 string
A 12 string guitar player spends half his life tuning the guitar...and the other half playing it out of tune...Pete Seeger.
Painfully accurate. But they're still fun!
🤣
Nicest , strongest 12 string I have seen is a 1965 Epiphone that used a TailStock instead of the standard bridge saddle combination. I tried to get it but couldn't come up with a deal
I'll settle for an octave pedal, or harmonizer to imitate that tone.
Aquarium tubing works great for fishing pots.
One pre-Snark trick to tuning a 12 string is first tune the regular 6 strings, then tune the octave and unison pairs to the previously tuned regular set.
I wonder if the guitar was custom ordered. I've never seen a ES175D with multi bound ebony fretboard with MOP inlays. I know Gibson offered the ES175D with rosewood fingerboard with the split parallelogram inlays. The other oddity is the toggle switch on the lower horn. Standard position would be the upper bought. Still a cool guitar from the history of Gibson.
Could have started life as a stock one pickup, then maybe returned to the factory for upgrades? Only other 175 I know of with the ebony/blocks was Jim Hall’s
I’m glad you pointed it out, I was thinking that couldn’t be the original fingerboard. Who would change that? The ES-175 fingerboard is so cool!
instead of a drinking straw, try a piece of silicone air line from an aquarium. Fits perfectly over the knurl of a pot, and really holds on when you are pulling the pots through the holes.
I was a Power Quality specialist for 30 years, and have designed a number of clean rooms. Anyway just trust me, dust of conductive. How conducive is dependant on what the dust is made up of.
In a house 60 to 90% of dust is made up of human skin and other organic compounds, if your in a place such as a fire station it could be Diesel soot. Even in a concrete warehouse the dust is conducive. Actually very conducive.
I was involved in the design of a back up system that was designed to backed up a system that controlled a Nuclear Power system. My company was responsible for the UPS, Gen Set and transfer switch. The batteries were to be supplied by the end user.
Unfortunately they ordered and received those batteries before everything else was ready. There were redesign after redesign and finally, after a full year, the UPS was ready for commissioning and the system failed.
Turns out the end user let the batteries rest directly on the concrete floor. The dust was conducive enough that after a year all the power in the batteries was completely drained. Enough so, that even using pulse chargers the batteries would not hold a charge. Did I mentioned the batteries were worth 2 million.
As an audio technician with a fair bit of experience working on tube amps, I can confirm that dust can and does conduct, especially in a humid environment. Dust settling onto tube sockets can cause short circuits between adjacent terminals, especially in a humid environment, because it's not uncommon for output tubes to have anywhere from 350 to 500 plus volts DC on them.
Ted, your skill and patience is inspiring. I have no love for hollow or semi hollow electric guitars without a control cavity access from the back. The one reason I do not own one.
I once bought an acoustic guitar to convert into a semi-acoustic bass. Literally the first thing I did was to cut an access opening into the back.
It's not a really big deal. No need to cut holes in the guitar.
@@mattrogers1946 That depends on the situation. In my case, I felt I needed the access hole. I wanted a piezo, which meant installing a preamp and a jack. Also, I had to address stability issues with the top.
Hi Ted, I appreciate the effort to demo each guitar with appropriate genre, just another nice little touch that makes your vids sweet.
I agree with some other comments. The neck on the 175 is not a standard for this model ie: block inlays a double neck binding.
that es is probably converted from single pickup version in 1970's the switch is wherever the owner wanted it.
I had that model 12 string. It was ok. Part of the Westerly Collection, made in China, based off of the guitars made from 1967-2001 in Westerly RI. But I replaced it with THREE vintage actual Westerly RI made Guilds. A 1973 D40, 1980 D25 and 1990 D2512 (the 12 string model used by Tom Petty). As a born and raised Rhode Island musician, its great to have guitars that were built here.
I can’t believe I’m trying to tell Mr Woodford anything, but… I always use fish tank tubing to hold pots into a hollow guitar because it seems to work better than string.
"It also smells pretty heavily of **basement**." VERY evocative :D
"Most metal tailpiece ever. Thirty years ahead of its time!" Looks like a Starfleet Commander's insignia from some alternate Star Trek timeline.
Could be a replaced finger board or Custom order ...looking at the holes for the neck pickup and the switch position, they look like an add on, they do not look Factory drilled
You nailed it Ted. Hung on my wall for at least 20 years.
thhe fretard on the 175 should be a special order or a replacement they have split parallelogram inlay and single white binding from factory
Thanks! Needed this 21 minutes of Zen! 👍🏼
My guess would be that it's the pickup itself. I've had the exact same experience with P-90s where the coil windings were "self-tapping" through a short in the coil wire. Great video, as always!
That would be my guess too, but regardless, if I am changing a pot, I am also replacing the pup. That was ugly.
Not cat hair Ted, it’s from my beagle.
I once owned a 63 ES 175D sunburst with humburkers and it was in really good condition which I purchased in 2016 for 1200.00. I sold it for 2000 in 2017 and I regret it. Thanks for your time and the great videos. Play on!
Aww I was looking forward to see the Les Paul Jr. finished. But the 175 is a cool guitar. And it sounds great.
Hey Ted, get one of those "pot cleaning caps" from Stew-Mac. It allows you to spray the cleaner into the pot (around the shaft), without having to remove the pot from the body first. Might be a time and frustration saver on a hollow body guitar. Don't think it fits on metric pot, though.
We have a similar vintage syringe- like pump at the audio shop I work for, probably 40 or more years old (made by GC or Pomona, IIRC) but it too is for SAE/Imperial thread potentiometer shafts. It lookes like a cross between a miniature bicycle-tire pump and a syringe; fill it with control cleaner, screw onto the pot shaft, and push on the piston. It would be more usefull if I made threaded adaptors to use it on metric pots....
i tried one of those with high hopes, but it mostly just seemed to be a way of getting contact cleaner all over your hands and the top without actually getting it down inside the pot
instead i've had decent luck with gently heating and bending the end of the little straw that goes into the spray can, that lets me get the cleaner up into the pot from underneath through the F-hole
@@goodun2974 what is this thing?? i want one
Carapace; the exoskeleton or shell of an insect.
The vocabulary!😂
Un vrai plaisir de vous écouter et de vous voir travailler 🙂
I just started working part time doing guitar repairs... and I attribute it to falling asleep to your videos almost every night lol.
Also... the 2nd guitar I worked on was a 12 string that needed a custom bone nut and had garbage tuners. I massively undercharged for the work.
Sweet sounding guitars, they might complement each other perfectly, especially when the Gibson bridge pickup gets sorted out.
I appreciate your full examination of the guitar prior to making any repairs or changes.... Some just focus on the immediate problem and not the entire instrument. Well done!
love the gentle jazz riffs in the fade out
Steve Howe was the reason I bought a ES-175 I love it! It's also cool that it's left handed. Not too many of them around.
Ted that 12 string sounds fcking beautiful man.
It's so 'Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup'.
is it possible that the bridge pickup was added to it later? The switch location is wrong for later 175's and does not have the poker chip. Again, just a guess that someone added the bridge pickup and switch later.
Someone needs to sample Ted twisting that pot and saying 'Dirrrty' and use it on a dance tune.
These videos are so therapeutic. They are too few and, far between. I wish there was more of you to go around. Cheers from Kentucky.!
I know you've said in the past that humidifiers don't work. But as someone that installed a properly sized whole house one last summer.
They do work, my house has bean 50% -+5% sins I installed it.
And that is in a 130 year old house with old windows just a few hours north of you.
Anyway, I wanted to thank you for these videos. They gave me the confidence to do more advanced work (making new nuts, custom bridge intonation etc) for my partner's growing and collection.
This really changed the way I looked at Guilds
...Many years ago I stopped using contact/switch cleaner and instead use WD40, it cleans just as effectively but lasts far longer, I had a radio with a sticky pot' and maybe twice a month I had to clean it again with contact cleaner, then I did it with WD40 and it hasn't crackled since (over 18 months)...also you can buy the cans with the flexible tube so it makes it easy to get into difficult areas...hope that's useful to yourself or anyone else, I've certainly benefited from your channel, thanks for sharing your knowledge... :- )
You should give GIBBS Brand Lubricant a try. It’s a superior product for countless applications, and is an outstanding choice for any electronic component, especially those of a precision nature. It’s a bit expensive (a little goes a long way) , and it doesn’t harm wood, or painted/finished surfaces.
@@FIGGY65 Thanks for the recommendation but I've already tried it and found the WD40 gave better results...YMMV... :- )
Gotta love that Guild 12-string!
The bridge pickup on the Gibson might not be shorted out. Someone working on the guitar might have put the magnets back in wrong, because they are supposed to have like poles facing. When you take out a P-90 the magnets want to jump right out because the like poles are opposed. If someone put the magnets in the easy way, with the poles in opposition, you’ll get a little detectable output but nothing like what you get when the magnets are correctly placed.
The pickup selector switch is on the lower bought, like the 1954 version I found, but the 1953,1955, and 1956 versions I found all have the pickup selector on the upper bought, as do humbucker versions from 1957 on........?
If I am correct, Gibson also made a three quarter size 175 style guitar and they are very rare now. Love the Gibson ES175 but the best is the fabulous short scale Brydland. AUD$15,000 and up in Australia. Love your work mate.
Is there a part number on the tone-ball? I want to see if Stewmac has it. 😂
Nah try Solo Guitars or Allparts man Stewmac's tone-balls are way overpriced.
It's actually a "fuzz-tone" ball; an owner-instaled modification to make the guitar suitable for grungy rock and roll. It will only be good for playing jazz now!
The ES 175 in the video has an L5 Ebony fingerboard and multi layer binding fitted instead of the usual rosewood fingerboard with single layer binding and the usual ES 175 double parallelogram inlays - ( perhaps a special order made for original customer from Gibson Factory ? )
The Gibson is beautiful. I’d never leave her in the basement.. (that sounder stranger than I’d hoped..)
Sold my 12 string 40 plus years ago .
Dam! Now I need another 12 string! 😱
i just found woodford a few weeks ago,, on a train. my guitar has never sounded so good. i spend a lot of time on a train. thank you matey, all the way from glasgow.
I can certainly hear what you were talking about with the neck pickup being the jazzy one.
Thanks Ted for your videos on Sunday's. It makes my weekend perfect and gave me a lot of knowledge about guitar repair. You get always my thumbs up. Please keep on doing this good guitar jobs.
Greetings from Germany.
Eugen
The sweet warmth and woodyness of that front pickup is all that matters 😂.
GORGEOUS GIBSON!!!
I picked up on some of those anomalies, too. I have a '51 175, and I tried to learn a lot about them before buying. Mine is a single P-90, tall knobs, Klusons, old style tailpiece. Never had any repairs except for new frets and nut (by Gibson). and no extra strap button added! Still solid but plenty of graceful even wear by probably a sit down player. It sounds great!
Ted amazing, great work and the most articulate luthier out there!
Tasty couple of jazz licks there Ted
Hi TED, saw a greeat trick. Remove Control knobs and slip a piece of plastic tubing over shaft. 2=3 ft. of tubing To replace POT, just pull the whole thing back iinto place. Viola'
Enjoyed the show bud thanks for taking the time to share. 👍👍🥃Respect to you mate.
John Fogerty had a ES-175 with humbuckers.
LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
That 175 has a new fret board, the originals were parallelograms.
Always wanted a 12 string Guild, underrated Electric guitars also.
Don't buy a Chinese one...
@@mattrogers1946 Of course not a early 70's
I've got a '77 Oak Leaf S100 lefty. I call it my Guild SG.
@@frankperricone2065 Agreed!
Hello,
I had a couple of ideas, not really related to this video, but after watching a lot from your channel. You may have already thought of these, but anyway here they are. I wondered in using a down cut bit when deepening fret slots would eliminate any risk of tearout or chipping. I thought of this when watching rout a new pick guard and wondered if you might get chipping when machining the plastic.
My hobby is making loudspeakers and I have a quite modestly priced digital multimeter which allows me to measure inductance and capacitance, as well as the usual other measurements. I thought that such a thing could be helpful to you for measuring suspect capacitors, and maybe checking pickups.
Thanks for your videos,
John
the thing to do while the pickup was out would have been to measure its DC resistance directly; my guess is it's got an open coil, so it still makes noise when you tap it with a screwdriver and generates a little sound but that's it
Yup, even a pickup with an open coil can still make sound because of the capacitance between the windings. In this case I suspect hat long term storage in a damp environment may have caused some of the windings to corrode and short-circuit themselves together, lessening the length and impedance of the coil.
It's a shame a valuable guitar like the ES 175 has been neglected like that. I guess at least the owner brought it in so that's good. Sweet sounding guitar.
Unusual example with the toggle in that position and a non-ES175 fretboard...
This comment doesn't have to do with this video. I am a long time fan of your exceptional repair skills and I just recently re-watched one of your many Les Paul neck repairs. I believe this one was from February 2022. I was just struck again by how awesome of a skilled/ (gifted) Luthier you actually are !! You are the type of Luthier who if it was at all any way possible for me to apprentice under you , I would literally do whatever I could to be able to do that !! I'm not just blowing smoke ...I truly believe you are that talented and that as much as I Love playing guitars and also building and working on them, I believe it would be an Honor to apprentice under someone as gifted & talented, such as yourself. Just thought I would share that w/ you. Sincerely, Jeff Krainer ~
Love seeing a 175 show up. That's not the original fretboard, or at least inlays and binding are off. The second pickup must have been added later. The selector switch is not in the typical spot. I'm guessing around the same time they put a set of 4 newer knobs on, those don't look vintage. The bridge is the right style, but something about it also looks newer than it should.
Beautiful playing on the 175 sounded really nice
Looks like the exact model Guild 12 that I own.
"Tone-ball"...
...aaaand I'm dead!
my first "real" guitar was a Fender acoustic 12 string, back around 1975 or so, which I wish I had kept, but I traded it in on a Mossman 6 string in 1976, which I still have. I now have a Harley Benton jumbo 12 string and a Danelectro electric 12 string. Love both of them except when it comes time for new strings!
Another thing to add to a list of ES175's prog rock achievements is Don't Fear The Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult.
Love the Eye-of-Sauron pickguard at 4:00!
pre-emptive congrats on 100k subs!
That 12 string is really bright, and the craftsmanship leaves a lot to be desired. The Gibson has certainly been refretted.
As a long time Guild fan - my first not-awful guitar was an early 70's D-35 - it makes me sad to know that they make many or most of their guitars in China. I know, everyone does that (Rickenbacker notwithstanding) these days, but still. That 12 did sound fine however, so they're doing that right anyway. It'll sound great until it explodes and/or the finish disintegrates!
Appreciated the history of the 175. For some reason I had associated that model more with early rockers, but that's clearly not the case. Too bad about that bridge pickup. Nobody likes the kind of fiddly work that it's going to require to fix it. The neck pickup shows how good the guitar sounds though. I wonder if the jazz guys ever use the bridge pickup at all? Can't see Joe Pass getting twangy, ever. Perhaps between Synanon sessions...
Finally…and maybe I missed an episode, after watching your wonderful videos for years, an Authentic ES-175. I almost bought one, but went with a Heritage Eagle. Quickly figured out I wasn’t a jazz player, but Ren at Hertiage couldn’t have been better. End result is I enjoy and appreciate your work. Thank you.
Know that you are appreciated Ted
Would like to see you and Lyle (not Kyle) of Psionic audio do a little live stream.
I’m betting the bridge PUP is some crappy aftermarket replacement with a short in the winding …all that takes is a little lacquer deterioration on the winding wire, caused by the damp storage. Was probably done in the 70s when someone installed the totally inappropriate jumbo frets. Maybe the owner was really into “Yes” or something 😂
I adore the sound of 12 string guitars but I could never own one, keeping it in tune would probably drive me mad unless it was a super expensive model that was stable with tuning. That Gibson neck pickup is what the word 'creamy' was invented for.
Lovely video! Thank you Ted
Nice jazz stylings.
Those Gibson pots sounded like the Eddie Van Halen "I'm of Fire" palm scratch riff...lol
Love the "smell of basement" note... Interesting guitar overall.
First thought on the 12 string…those crossing wraps on the tuning pegs make my OCD a little anxious….
Those machinist's rules are absolutely perfect for measuring action on guitars. The idea sprang to mind a few weeks ago so I ordered myself one and it's a must-have tool, IMO. Looks like I probably got the idea from here. Good to know 👌The fact that those can come marked in 64ths or mm with a decimal conversion table on the back makes them that much more useful.
To me that is the best of the 175s. I love p-90s and those wider frets are a good thing in my opinion too. I’d love that puppy!
I have a “The Loar” which is very much like the Gibson 175. I’d like to install treble bleeds but dread removing the pots.
Dude, you're a jazz guy! Fabulous! Thank you for another great video. I always always always learn something from you.
Checked for this yesterday, last night, this morning and now…
Yeah, 12-strings are a pain, but MAN do they sound lovely! Nice work, Ted!! As always.
Wow! Amazing rejuvenation, definitely worth the cost - easy for me to say. Cheers.