These scenes from childbirth to them as new parents are some of the sweetest Steam moments ever. This was well done by B&B. They did not gloss over this birth and the navigating as new parents Just magical and played extremely well by SC and JW. Rare to find chemistry and connection like this. Way different than her connection with Finn and the birth of Hayes.
Hope always wants to be the one that ends things, she always knew that Liam was going to say he is going back to Steffy, but no did she wait and give him the time to end it himself? Nah she has to be the one that does it so that she can tell steffy she gave liam to him, arg but whatever, they both belong together 🙄
In 2023, Hope used the excuse that it was Liam's divided feelings that caused the end of their marriage, but it was Hope kissing Thomas that ended it for Liam. Hope chased a man who was in a relationship and Steffy was pregnant. Brooke caused the most pain to Hope always pushing Hope on Liam
Facts, and Liam shouldn't never pick Hope, It's funny looking back at these old episodes because now hope messed up her marriage and Sheffy has nothing to do with it
Melissa_lifeinthebooks so in response to that I will say this. Hope and Liam had chance after chance to get it together and something always came between them and that was not always Steffy. It was Liam and Hope getting in their way. Hope was with Oliver wayyy before Liam and Oliver rejected Steffy’s advances what is Liam’s excuse? When Steffy left for Paris after she lost the baby. There was no one standing in there way. Then Wyatt came on the scene and Hope wanted Liam to feel what she felt all those times he was with Steffy which was understandable but even with Wyatt she wanted Liam. Both characters are childish and need to grow up and they are perfect for each other. Santimonious, hypocritical, and boring. Liam was only interesting with Steffy. I’m not saying what Steffy did during those times wasn’t wrong. She was a chip off her stepmother’s block but the difference is Steffy grew up. Hope never did, hell even Brooke didn’t really grow up but just got older. Hope was holding on to an old love that she couldn’t let the idea go that they weren’t meant for each other. Liam and Hope work better with other people. Now the past is the past because when Hope left Liam could have went after her. Liam could have told Ivy he still lived Hope and wanted a chance with her. Steffy is too much of a woman for Liam. Is she flawed? Yes but so is Hope. Hope should have never went after Liam while he was separated from Hope. There was a child involved and Liam needed time to heal and forgive Steffy. The point is there was a baby coming and Steffy could have lost that baby due to the stress of Bill harassing her, Hope going after Liam, and Liam’s indecisiveness. The real victim in this is Kelly. Hope wasn’t thinking about Kelly and as soon as she found out she was pregnant it was like Kelly didn’t matter no more. The writers should have never made Hope pregnant.
@Christina Bonvillian Hope has always been jealous and insecure when it comes to Steffy. And no matter what she does, she will never make a pimple on Steffy's ass!!
Episodes like this show me that Hope isn't a bad person. She just gets too caught up with all of her mother's 'concerns and pressures' and it almost always leads to more heartbreak for Hope. If she would stand up to her mother more often and make her own decisions, I would definitely like her more. Brooke is the problem and I really wish someone would put her in her place.
@@MenelikTimeThis is true..she came off as a bit spoilt but not deceitful or bad whilst she was with Liam in their younger days Steffy was a wild card and veryy manipulative ..doing anything to get her way to fill her own abandonment voids..but no excuse for her behavior and all the things she did to Hope for Liam Steffy however lessened the BS as she grew..with having Kelly being her peak time of her growing more sensibly and less whiny Hope on the other hand..well 2023 episodes speaks for itself
@@anikahtuitt4980 Steffy grew before she had Kelly... Motherhood doesn't give you special powers 🙄 Brooke had several kids and still slept with her daughters husband and played alot of games before & AFTER she had kids🙄🙄
Exactly Brooke wonder why karma always be knocking at her door does she ever get what goes around comes right back around even in her children Hope is constantly get it you don’t shit think you not going get it right back to her so I’m glad hope got it back to her now she feels exactly how Steffy felt now so no sympathy over here
Brooke was with Ridge first, Hope was with her first boyfriend first, Steffy went for him, Hope was with Liam first, Steffy went for him, Hope was with Wyatt first and Steffy went for him. I Love JMW, Kim Matilda and Annika Nicole. Three of the best actresses in soaps. But JMW is my favorite. And I want Finn to wake up and go home!
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 Sadly, Liam's eyes will never be opened because he is obsessed with being a hero and rescuing women- he can't do that with Steffy because she knows how to stand on her own two feet. Hope, on the other hand, can't be left alone for more than 5 minutes without a man in her vicinity. His feelings for Hope are not based on real love, he is only with her out of obligation.
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 , Lima can't see it because he is just as bad. Love Steffy's lines to Liam later that he is just as bad as Bill, he just has a better act.
Hope sleeping with Liam and getting pregnant with Beth while he was married to Steffy is why she's hurting right now. Liam went to Steffy and slept with her again while she's now pregnant and it could be Liam's. Karma. I wish that Steffy wouldn't waste her time in Liam at all anymore and just be with Finn.
The difference is: Liam filed for annulment and proposed to Hope, while Steffy and Liam hooked up being committed to their actual partners who treated them correctly. I think the second misdeed is worse on both parts (Steffy and Liam) and has nothing to do with karma
I really have zero sympathy for Hope. She did this to herself by pushing Liam to end things with Steffy, after telling Steffy she supported her marriage to Liam. Lying, entitled, selfish brat.
Liam ended things with Steffy because she cheated with Bill and the changed his mind about going back to Steffy because he believed Bill’s manipulations. She did support their marriage until they thought Liam shot Bill, that’s when it changed and Hope was honest about that to Steffy.
I still can't understand why everyone is so concerned about Hope's feeling when she inserted herself into the situation after coming back from Malian she should have just let Liam and Steffy alone to figure things out and if it didn't work then they could get together
I think people bring it up because Liam would not come out of his hotel or speak to anyone. When she first got back he was the only one he would talk to. Stephy asked her if she would talk to Liam on her be half especially since she was pregnant. Hope did start out trying to make Liam see he needed to work on things with Stephy because of his baby. She didn't let her feelings for Liam confuse her or get in the way until Wyatt started telling them Stephy was still sleeping with Bill, she got played just like Liam was it wrong yes but everyone knows you never completely get over your real first love. People can hate Hope if the want to, I will be honest and say I have always been a Hope fan so I personally will say she started off with good intentions and her and Stephy were actually getting along and looked like a bond was forming. I wish they would become super close like sisters I think they could be a real power couple but it's not far she gets blamed for everything and Stephy never see's the wrong within herself.
he didn't want Hope he felt sorry he hated hurting her and all through history this is why the Logans guilt tripped him into believing he belonged with miss Goody two shoes and Steffy kinda pushed Liam Hopes way on many occasions
Steffy did push them together but brook and hope she is teaching her daughter to become like her stealing other women's men. Wow I know that this isn't real because some females are not taking that crap (putting it nice).
@@oplenarain4057You do know that was the reason Brooke used to get Liam to be with Hope right? He said her daughter needs a father for her daughter's child. She didn't care that Liam already had a family. Brooke only cared about what Hope wanted.
This just shows how mush Brooke is happy with Kelly's birth she couldn't care less she a stepmother from hell So sorry steffy to have as a stepmother like Brooke
@@ehrenfriedostermann6839Steffy doesn't give Brook the time of day until she's in her face about Liam when Hope is in the picture Maybe in the earlier episodes..Steffy and and her grandmother/namesake Stephanie Forrester would plot to make Brooke's life a living hell because they both had reasons to dislike Brooke...Steffy looked to her grandmother as well But in these episodes...Steffy dgaf about Brooke unless she has to defend herself verbally..and after all the disgusting things Brook has done..she should be the last to talk
Brooke remember you use to use Bridget to manipulate Ridge when you know he wasn't her father why Liam shouldn't stay with steffy and rise his daughter. I still think hope is pregnant but steffy holding her baby in her arms now change her perspective an Liam is not the center of her world anymore
Hope is so selfish..the man just had a baby, he just gave that lil speech about everything taking a back seat...he can't answer that question right now...he is still processing the fact that he just became a father 🤷♀️
Hope knows he would choose his family do she did it for him. But I just know that she and her will milk Liam for what he is worth. Hope will keep making plays for him (Liam) and Brooke will guilt him into feeling guilty over Hope.
BROOK WILL NEVER EXCEPT KELLY AND STEFFY.. BROOK WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT HER KIDS GET THERE HAPPIES. BROOK IS A HATER .. BROOK LOVES TO SEE STEFFY AND THOMAS BE HAPPY IN THERE LIFE . EVEN IT COMES FAMILY . BROOK IS HATER
All parents do everything in there power the Kids had the most of happyness for there life.That had nothing to do with Brooke.What about Taylor did she not do the same and more for her children.
I want to smack Brooke and how the hell is Bill in all these women's lives like right now Bill and Brooke yet again like wtf give steffy a good storyline too she deserves it
Brooke dont support them she sends Hope after liam even though he is commited to Steffy but a man a man has needs Hope seduces Liam Steffy catches them but Hope is pregnant and says its Liams so Steffy gives up on Liam and this time dont forgive but Brooke once again rushes a wedding so LIam even though hoping Steffy to change her mind and ask him back dosent even though it hurt her but Brooke made sure Steam didnt have chance to rekindle because she got Hope butting in all the time but Hope was a rebound because Liam was angry but a decent mother would have told Hope to find a life of her own
Rumor has it that Bell Jr is FINALLY going to give Steffy a love interest. I can't wait to see Liam get his panties in a bunch and get jealous of the new guy spending time with Steffy and Kelly when Liam couldn't even be bothered to raise his own child.
i feel for Liam though he got in between a logan and a logan the worse one Brooke and Hope thinks Liam still wants her but hes in love with Steffy and he knows it hes trying to save Hopes feelings but Hope chose to get in the middle in the first place so she only herself to blame but Beth i dont think she is liams baby time will tell but Brooke pushed out Steffy and Kelly for her brood
It will probably be so. Liam is such a type, so far he chased Hopeless claiming that "she's the love of his life, he always wanted her" blah blah blah. As if he didn't have such a passionate love story with Steffy. And when Steffy moves on with Finn, suddenly Liam remembers about her and now wants Steffy for a change
If Brooke was a good mother, she'd encourage her daughter to find someone who loves her unconditionally and doesn't waffle between women. For her, to keep Hope pining away for Liam is just abuse. 😡
I think you have that all wrong Steffy went after all Hope's boyfriend's if you can remember Oliver Steffy tried to get him in her underwear but he knocked her back then Liam came on the scene and Steffy was having it off with Bill while he was married to Katie then when Bill decided to stay with Katie and she found out Liam was Bill's son and he was with Hope from the start Steffy started sniffing around him so no Hope didn't go after everything Steffy had it was the other way around untill Steffy jumped in the sack with Liam. Because Hope wanted to wait untill they were married but it was easy for Steffy because she should be called easy..
@@beverleygrenfell3861 thank you forgive them, they all have dementia or Alzheimer's. They always painted hope as a bad person when she's far from that. Every single man hope been with Steffy goes after. She got to sleep with Liam first because we all know she practically throw herself so desperately like what she did with Bill a married man and hope wanted to wait. Then she went on with Oliver and Wyatt.
Who wants to follow Steffy, yes hope been with Liam and Wyatt but it's something different about getting involved with a married man, then his two sons. Let me get this Bill father, Wyatt and Liam both his son's and both brothers.. who has morals now? 💯 If I was Liam she would never had any more chances with me just communicate over Kelly, which by the way still has paternity doubts. I can't wait for that storyline.
Hope claimed she would hate herself if she somehow came in between his little girls life yet the second she found out she was knocked up, all that mattered is what she wanted
Liam always tells both Steffy AND Hope what he wants them to hear. That's just the type of man he is...If "man" is even the right word to describe him. 🙄 Thankfully Steffy's now moved on from him, hopefully one day Hope will too. Both women deserve better.
Where was this attitude when she was in a pregnant woman's face saying she wanted to be with him and not putting up with "being kept apart anymore" ? Why didn't she consider his family then?
hate to say it but Hpoeless baby will be illegitimate because Liam and she were not married at the time and Steffy's is not because she was married to Liam when she got pregnant, besides Hopeless is like her smother always wanted what she can't have.
Well, actually, Hope's baby was born in a marriage, therefore she is a legitimate child... Kelly wasn't.. Liam filed the annulmentpapers before she was born..
Liam didn't put up to much of a fight when hope gave her ring back an he could have demand she put that ring back on an when he got married to hope at the wedding he flew over there to steffy to check on her an he didn't take hope on no honeymoon either an steffy was pregnant an he took her so that wasn't an excuse
Waffling Lame. He said he will go back to Steffy then waffles to Hope. Grow some balls and take some responsibility for your family! Being a father doesn't change anything for this guy, he's still a boy and not a man.
It's kind of biased no matter what since Kim Matula's Hope had the equivalent history of Jmw as Steffy. Hope was actually getting more spicier and matured when she was with Wyatt and had the glamour. Annika is nice but would love for her to tap into the Hope that was becoming more spicier and sophisticated and mature not just goody goody...that melted away with Wyatt. Miss u Kim. Annika reach into that edge and material. No more crying whiny purest. She can be good with an edge that was the best of Hope b4 Milan.
I have got to give hope a lot of credit here she did the right thing by letting Liam go the fact that she finds out shes pregnant later doesn't change the mind that she did right here and if we're being honest this is all Bill's fault what kind of man sleeps with his son's wife when she's extremely hurt and vulnerable and then tries to destroy her family granted steffy made a mistake by sleeping with Bill but if everybody remembers the stroy line correctly they'll remember that she had literally just been told that Liam had betrayed her first by kissing Sally and she was not thinking straight at the time and Bill took advantage and if I recall this was the first time that Liam betrayed Steffy.
Oh wow hope saying this now once she sees that liam really is gonna go back to steffy so to save face she gonna say she was the one who made the decision when the whole time liam did but was too afraid of telling hope that he was going back once he found out it was all Bill ..she is so disgusting and Brooke too for pushing her to go after a married man who is pregnant with his baby smh the Logans
Yup, that's what happens when Hope is left alone to make her own decisions and Brooke can't influence her thinking. Hope literally looked him in the eyes and told him he needs to be with Steffy. That's about as straightforward as it gets.
Hope literally said "you need to be with Kelly which means you need to be with Steffy too." You are getting what you want yet you are STILL trying to spin this to make Hope seem like a bad person. It just never ends with you haters does it?
Brooke is so Lying through her teeth. The nerve of her saying. It's not fair to HOpe. HOpe knew Liam was involved and Steffy was pregnant. But Brooke and Hope don't care
Hope acts like a teenager instead of an adult woman.Hope and Brooke act they care about Steffy and the baby but they don't really care at all.Hope is a drama queen is still trying to get to Liam so he would leave Steffy.Liar Hope
JMW looks so beautiful without all the heavy extreme eye makeup… she’s a wonderful actress and a gorgeous woman!
These scenes from childbirth to them as new parents are some of the sweetest Steam moments ever. This was well done by B&B. They did not gloss over this birth and the navigating as new parents Just magical and played extremely well by SC and JW. Rare to find chemistry and connection like this. Way different than her connection with Finn and the birth of Hayes.
Steffy good strong woman wish I was like that
@@BabygirlBradley-ik3idagreed she’s a hell of a woman four boys in her real life! And a kickass actress
@@jenniferRodgers-fs9fhyes for sure one of the best moms ever
JMW is wonderful as Steffy. One of the best characters on BnB.
YES! SHE IS. I JUST LOVE HER!!
She absolutely is.
She’s an amazing actor
I LOVE ACTRESS JMW! SHE IS SO AWESOME!!
SAMC4:👍👍I agree!! Steffy is the Ultimate Queen of this show!❤
First time Eric has ever defended his granddaughter
Hope wouldn’t be going through this if you Brooke didn’t push your Daughter to get involved with a married man who had a pregnant wife. Who does that.
I know I know Brooke Hoegan
@@kirstenmason718 😂😂😂 Well Hoegan about to be single😂
@@jeannekellom7114Ikr an again in 2023
How can you say that after she got Beth back and Steffy is with Finn?! @lorikoenig6111
@@brianna9687 steffy and Finn are separated and hope and Liam have signed divorce papers steffy went to Rome and hope slept with Thomas
Hope always wants to be the one that ends things, she always knew that Liam was going to say he is going back to Steffy, but no did she wait and give him the time to end it himself? Nah she has to be the one that does it so that she can tell steffy she gave liam to him, arg but whatever, they both belong together 🙄
Steffie did that too feel wekes later!
Steffy does this too.. hope knows he's coming back. 😂
Brooke doesn't care if Kelly grows up without Liam, so long as Hope is happy.
Brooke is such a bitch
Erin Tweedy say that again! She kept Deacon away from Hope! Who forgot about that!
For real tho she just wants her daughter to be happy to heck with steffy
Ariana Pruitt and kelly...
Miesha Clarissa I second that she’s incompetent inconsiderate manipulative egotistical disrespectful person
For goodness sake put them back together. Unbelievable chemistry in a couple.
Brooke it’s not fair you crash That whole Family
In 2023, Hope used the excuse that it was Liam's divided feelings that caused the end of their marriage, but it was Hope kissing Thomas that ended it for Liam. Hope chased a man who was in a relationship and Steffy was pregnant. Brooke caused the most pain to Hope always pushing Hope on Liam
Facts, and Liam shouldn't never pick Hope,
It's funny looking back at these old episodes because now hope messed up her marriage and Sheffy has nothing to do with it
Hope should have not been checking for Liam anyway while he was separated from Steffy.
Shavonne Holmes FACTS
Melissa_lifeinthebooks so in response to that I will say this. Hope and Liam had chance after chance to get it together and something always came between them and that was not always Steffy. It was Liam and Hope getting in their way. Hope was with Oliver wayyy before Liam and Oliver rejected Steffy’s advances what is Liam’s excuse? When Steffy left for Paris after she lost the baby. There was no one standing in there way. Then Wyatt came on the scene and Hope wanted Liam to feel what she felt all those times he was with Steffy which was understandable but even with Wyatt she wanted Liam. Both characters are childish and need to grow up and they are perfect for each other. Santimonious, hypocritical, and boring. Liam was only interesting with Steffy. I’m not saying what Steffy did during those times wasn’t wrong. She was a chip off her stepmother’s block but the difference is Steffy grew up. Hope never did, hell even Brooke didn’t really grow up but just got older. Hope was holding on to an old love that she couldn’t let the idea go that they weren’t meant for each other. Liam and Hope work better with other people. Now the past is the past because when Hope left Liam could have went after her. Liam could have told Ivy he still lived Hope and wanted a chance with her. Steffy is too much of a woman for Liam. Is she flawed? Yes but so is Hope. Hope should have never went after Liam while he was separated from Hope. There was a child involved and Liam needed time to heal and forgive Steffy. The point is there was a baby coming and Steffy could have lost that baby due to the stress of Bill harassing her, Hope going after Liam, and Liam’s indecisiveness. The real victim in this is Kelly. Hope wasn’t thinking about Kelly and as soon as she found out she was pregnant it was like Kelly didn’t matter no more. The writers should have never made Hope pregnant.
Hope is so phoney!! Like nails on a chalkboard!! She is just awful!! Please send her away!😨😨
@Christina Bonvillian Hope has always been jealous and insecure when it comes to Steffy. And no matter what she does, she will never make a pimple on Steffy's ass!!
Its liam falt he save steffy life.when she all most drown.they fell in love they have good chemistry together.
Episodes like this show me that Hope isn't a bad person. She just gets too caught up with all of her mother's 'concerns and pressures' and it almost always leads to more heartbreak for Hope. If she would stand up to her mother more often and make her own decisions, I would definitely like her more. Brooke is the problem and I really wish someone would put her in her place.
Hope was never from the beginning a bad person, she's actually nicer than Steffy in my opinion.
@@MenelikTimeThis is true..she came off as a bit spoilt but not deceitful or bad whilst she was with Liam in their younger days
Steffy was a wild card and veryy manipulative ..doing anything to get her way to fill her own abandonment voids..but no excuse for her behavior and all the things she did to Hope for Liam
Steffy however lessened the BS as she grew..with having Kelly being her peak time of her growing more sensibly and less whiny
Hope on the other hand..well 2023 episodes speaks for itself
@@anikahtuitt4980 am mad they making her character change. I only wanted her to get a little backbone.
@@MenelikTime you mean Hope?..oh yea ..she got a lil too much backbone now🤣
@@anikahtuitt4980 Steffy grew before she had Kelly... Motherhood doesn't give you special powers 🙄 Brooke had several kids and still slept with her daughters husband and played alot of games before & AFTER she had kids🙄🙄
oh Hope he wants Steffy stop being desparate take the hint Liam wants back with Steffy
Steffy liam all the way
Agreed
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That's right stephy and Liam all the way always
That's right
That's right stephy and Liam all the way
And yet here is Hope telling Liam he needs to let Steffy go. Those Logans, I guess they could do no wrong
Exactly Brooke wonder why karma always be knocking at her door does she ever get what goes around comes right back around even in her children Hope is constantly get it you don’t shit think you not going get it right back to her so I’m glad hope got it back to her now she feels exactly how Steffy felt now so no sympathy over here
Brooke was with Ridge first, Hope was with her first boyfriend first, Steffy went for him, Hope was with Liam first, Steffy went for him, Hope was with Wyatt first and Steffy went for him. I Love JMW, Kim Matilda and Annika Nicole. Three of the best actresses in soaps. But JMW is my favorite. And I want Finn to wake up and go home!
I'm glad Liam and stephy are back together now they can get married again
Sadly they didn't..cuz Liam is a douche🙂
Brooke is always interfering in her daughters relationship. Listen to how she told Ridge your grand baby not our grand baby.🤐
this is funny Liam was gona break it off with Hope and she sensed it so jumped in first
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 Sadly, Liam's eyes will never be opened because he is obsessed with being a hero and rescuing women- he can't do that with Steffy because she knows how to stand on her own two feet. Hope, on the other hand, can't be left alone for more than 5 minutes without a man in her vicinity. His feelings for Hope are not based on real love, he is only with her out of obligation.
@@zuzanavystrcilova7001 , Lima can't see it because he is just as bad. Love Steffy's lines to Liam later that he is just as bad as Bill, he just has a better act.
Hope sleeping with Liam and getting pregnant with Beth while he was married to Steffy is why she's hurting right now. Liam went to Steffy and slept with her again while she's now pregnant and it could be Liam's. Karma. I wish that Steffy wouldn't waste her time in Liam at all anymore and just be with Finn.
The difference is: Liam filed for annulment and proposed to Hope, while Steffy and Liam hooked up being committed to their actual partners who treated them correctly. I think the second misdeed is worse on both parts (Steffy and Liam) and has nothing to do with karma
Some people said Hope getting karma. When Steffy and Liam lost their first child and Hope don't let Liam grieve for his child
Thorne has no loyalty to his family at all. So glad he was moved back to Paris..
I Was Thinking The Same Thing
I'm so heart broken for Hope 💔💔 but really happy for Liam,Steffy and little baby Kelly 💞🌺🙂❤🤗😘
I agree, except the part about feeling bad about Hope that bitch gets what she deserves she never gets consequences
Cool 😘🌉🌃😗😚😎❤️🤔.
I really have zero sympathy for Hope. She did this to herself by pushing Liam to end things with Steffy, after telling Steffy she supported her marriage to Liam. Lying, entitled, selfish brat.
Cari Wallis THANK YOU
I agree I don’t feel bad for her ass neither
Miesha Clarissa talks with disrespect about Hope. Does she have a brain defect? I don't like Hope, but it's not that way
I lost respect for hoepe when she married wyatt because liam was 5 minutes late. There was no bill or steffy back then
Liam ended things with Steffy because she cheated with Bill and the changed his mind about going back to Steffy because he believed Bill’s manipulations.
She did support their marriage until they thought Liam shot Bill, that’s when it changed and Hope was honest about that to Steffy.
I still can't understand why everyone is so concerned about Hope's feeling when she inserted herself into the situation after coming back from Malian she should have just let Liam and Steffy alone to figure things out and if it didn't work then they could get together
The same way Steffy stayed out of Hope and Liam’s relationship over the years. The way Steffy was his “friend” 🤣
I think people bring it up because Liam would not come out of his hotel or speak to anyone. When she first got back he was the only one he would talk to. Stephy asked her if she would talk to Liam on her be half especially since she was pregnant. Hope did start out trying to make Liam see he needed to work on things with Stephy because of his baby. She didn't let her feelings for Liam confuse her or get in the way until Wyatt started telling them Stephy was still sleeping with Bill, she got played just like Liam was it wrong yes but everyone knows you never completely get over your real first love. People can hate Hope if the want to, I will be honest and say I have always been a Hope fan so I personally will say she started off with good intentions and her and Stephy were actually getting along and looked like a bond was forming. I wish they would become super close like sisters I think they could be a real power couple but it's not far she gets blamed for everything and Stephy never see's the wrong within herself.
he didn't want Hope he felt sorry he hated hurting her and all through history this is why the Logans guilt tripped him into believing he belonged with miss Goody two shoes and Steffy kinda pushed Liam Hopes way on many occasions
Steffy did push them together but brook and hope she is teaching her daughter to become like her stealing other women's men. Wow I know that this isn't real because some females are not taking that crap (putting it nice).
He did untill Steffy went after him like a dog on heat and sucked him into marriage in Aspen..
@@beverleygrenfell3861 I'm glad someone sees the truth. Everybody overlooks all that she did and deem it as ok.
When Steffy find out she can't have anymore child. She told Hope take care of Liam and she left town
Hope takes it all back about getting between Kelly and her dad
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Not true
Liam shouldn't be deciding anything he has a wife and a baby already There should be no other choice in the matter he should be a man and step up.
Why should people stay together for a child
I hate Ridge he bullied Liem to staying with Steffy
They weren’t married here
Brooke and the Logan's doing the same thing want Liam and Hope stay together for Beth sake
@@oplenarain4057You do know that was the reason Brooke used to get Liam to be with Hope right? He said her daughter needs a father for her daughter's child. She didn't care that Liam already had a family. Brooke only cared about what Hope wanted.
This just shows how mush Brooke is happy with Kelly's birth she couldn't care less she a stepmother from hell
So sorry steffy to have as a stepmother like Brooke
Sara: I totally agree with you on that one Sara🌝 And Cinderella thought she had an evil stepmother! LOL!! BROOKE IS THE EPITOME OF EVIL@😠😨
A stepdaughter like Steffy is the same.
Brooke yeah right hell on earth ain’t got nothing on her
@@ehrenfriedostermann6839Steffy doesn't give Brook the time of day until she's in her face about Liam when Hope is in the picture
Maybe in the earlier episodes..Steffy and and her grandmother/namesake Stephanie Forrester would plot to make Brooke's life a living hell because they both had reasons to dislike Brooke...Steffy looked to her grandmother as well
But in these episodes...Steffy dgaf about Brooke unless she has to defend herself verbally..and after all the disgusting things Brook has done..she should be the last to talk
Cutie-Kelly.
Brooke remember you use to use Bridget to manipulate Ridge when you know he wasn't her father why Liam shouldn't stay with steffy and rise his daughter. I still think hope is pregnant but steffy holding her baby in her arms now change her perspective an Liam is not the center of her world anymore
Yep
Liam you broke Steffy heart now she on drugs. Bring Taylor back now
True
And then shortly after Kelly's birth, Hope ends up pregnant with Liam's second baby girl, Beth
Hope is so selfish..the man just had a baby, he just gave that lil speech about everything taking a back seat...he can't answer that question right now...he is still processing the fact that he just became a father 🤷♀️
Hope knows he would choose his family do she did it for him. But I just know that she and her will milk Liam for what he is worth. Hope will keep making plays for him (Liam) and Brooke will guilt him into feeling guilty over Hope.
Like ain’t nothing new
Liam and Hope are nauseating together
SO WHAT. WT BEEF
LUCKILY HES THERE IN HER LIFE AT ALL😢
BROOK WILL NEVER EXCEPT KELLY AND STEFFY.. BROOK WILL DO ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT HER KIDS GET THERE HAPPIES. BROOK IS A HATER .. BROOK LOVES TO SEE STEFFY AND THOMAS BE HAPPY IN THERE LIFE . EVEN IT COMES FAMILY . BROOK IS HATER
Brooke is a witch!!
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All parents do everything in there power the Kids had the most of happyness for there life.That had nothing to do with Brooke.What about Taylor did she not do the same and more for her children.
@@ehrenfriedostermann6839 that's not helping Hope. That's setting her up for failure.
It's a tv show . Dont take it seriously.
I want to smack Brooke and how the hell is Bill in all these women's lives like right now Bill and Brooke yet again like wtf give steffy a good storyline too she deserves it
Hope need to leave him alone and let him go.
Hope the Dope wont do that as long as her mom's Nasty Brooke. She's teaching her to follow her body part oops I'm sorry heart
That's were Liam needs to be
Brooke is the worst. Followed closely by Hope, always playing the victim.
Brooke dont support them she sends Hope after liam even though he is commited to Steffy but a man a man has needs Hope seduces Liam Steffy catches them but Hope is pregnant and says its Liams so Steffy gives up on Liam and this time dont forgive but Brooke once again rushes a wedding so LIam even though hoping Steffy to change her mind and ask him back dosent even though it hurt her but Brooke made sure Steam didnt have chance to rekindle because she got Hope butting in all the time but Hope was a rebound because Liam was angry but a decent mother would have told Hope to find a life of her own
Brooke isn’t a decent Mother Be Serious SHES A DAMN JOKE LITERALLY
Hope such a winer
Ikr just like her mother Brooke
Hope would have been able to uphold her principles if she didn't have Brooke as a mom.
all that crying Hopeless is doing and no tears lol , what a guilt trip
Rumor has it that Bell Jr is FINALLY going to give Steffy a love interest. I can't wait to see Liam get his panties in a bunch and get jealous of the new guy spending time with Steffy and Kelly when Liam couldn't even be bothered to raise his own child.
i feel for Liam though he got in between a logan and a logan the worse one Brooke and Hope thinks Liam still wants her but hes in love with Steffy and he knows it hes trying to save Hopes feelings but Hope chose to get in the middle in the first place so she only herself to blame but Beth i dont think she is liams baby time will tell but Brooke pushed out Steffy and Kelly for her brood
It will probably be so. Liam is such a type, so far he chased Hopeless claiming that "she's the love of his life, he always wanted her" blah blah blah. As if he didn't have such a passionate love story with Steffy. And when Steffy moves on with Finn, suddenly Liam remembers about her and now wants Steffy for a change
Not true
@@lindapeters7182 uh, yes, it is!
He died though
Liam and stephy will be married again forever always
forever always??? no.
Beautiful love it amazing made me cry
Liam a part time Dad to kelly nowcause hope got PREGNANT and now push douglas on to liam so kelly LAST and hope love that
katherine: I agree. But what else are we suppose to expect from Hope?? She is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A manipulating snake in the grass. 😠
He is.
Hope you and Liam will never be together again stephy won and she always wins Liam back
And the baby should beLiam’s not Finn
If Brooke was a good mother, she'd encourage her daughter to find someone who loves her unconditionally and doesn't waffle between women. For her, to keep Hope pining away for Liam is just abuse. 😡
Beautiful love it amazing
Aww...so noble Hope! Not!!!
Hope is carrying wyatt's baby not Liam's baby
Hope seem to want everything that steffy have.
I think you have that all wrong Steffy went after all Hope's boyfriend's if you can remember Oliver Steffy tried to get him in her underwear but he knocked her back then Liam came on the scene and Steffy was having it off with Bill while he was married to Katie then when Bill decided to stay with Katie and she found out Liam was Bill's son and he was with Hope from the start Steffy started sniffing around him so no Hope didn't go after everything Steffy had it was the other way around untill Steffy jumped in the sack with Liam. Because Hope wanted to wait untill they were married but it was easy for Steffy because she should be called easy..
@@beverleygrenfell3861 thank you forgive them, they all have dementia or Alzheimer's. They always painted hope as a bad person when she's far from that. Every single man hope been with Steffy goes after. She got to sleep with Liam first because we all know she practically throw herself so desperately like what she did with Bill a married man and hope wanted to wait. Then she went on with Oliver and Wyatt.
Who wants to follow Steffy, yes hope been with Liam and Wyatt but it's something different about getting involved with a married man, then his two sons. Let me get this Bill father, Wyatt and Liam both his son's and both brothers.. who has morals now? 💯 If I was Liam she would never had any more chances with me just communicate over Kelly, which by the way still has paternity doubts. I can't wait for that storyline.
AWESOME EPISODE❤❤❤
Old hope looks like Brooke
Hope claimed she would hate herself if she somehow came in between his little girls life yet the second she found out she was knocked up, all that mattered is what she wanted
Well that's because the circumstances changed. It wasn't necessarily all about her, she was pregnant with Liams child.
Hope should have been left barren after she was so happy when Steffy lost her first baby. Episode 8000 is awesome
When Steffy find out she can't got pregnant again she left town and told Hope take care of Liam@@nataliearreola6361
Didn't Liam Just Say The Same Thing To Steffy
Liam always tells both Steffy AND Hope what he wants them to hear. That's just the type of man he is...If "man" is even the right word to describe him. 🙄
Thankfully Steffy's now moved on from him, hopefully one day Hope will too. Both women deserve better.
Hope back off, but being your just like Brooke you won't.
They are the biggest
Babies.
"Cant stand in the way u and ur family" "i care about u too much to do that" yeah well u should have done that in the first place 🤨
Where was this attitude when she was in a pregnant woman's face saying she wanted to be with him and not putting up with "being kept apart anymore" ? Why didn't she consider his family then?
@@nataliearreola6361
It may have had something to do with the fact Liam filed the annulment papers.
@@QuietRiot3991 he still had a family and she was clearly trying to get between them
The writer's had to make Hope pregnant with Liam baby. He had to choose again between Kelly and Beth
Oh boo-hoo, Hopeless 😒
hate to say it but Hpoeless baby will be illegitimate because Liam and she were not married at the time and Steffy's is not because she was married to Liam when she got pregnant, besides Hopeless is like her smother always wanted what she can't have.
Well, actually, Hope's baby was born in a marriage, therefore she is a legitimate child... Kelly wasn't.. Liam filed the annulmentpapers before she was born..
@@h06anbjo exactly!!!
@@h06anbjo Still doesn't change the fact that Hopeless screwed him while he was still married to Steffy.
Please hope go away
Seems like everyone forgot about Douglas as the other great grand kid lol.
Why does Liam petty Hope so much.
Hope did it to her self now live with it !
hope sounds a stalker
She is. Look what she’s been doing while she was pregnant and Liam was spending time with Kelly, she was always interrupting on their family moments.
She is.
Loved these scenes but as usual it was all trashed to make Hope the centre of attention.
Can we bring back Kim as hope. Just can't get used to this new one, it's almost unwatchable! : (
Ridge should've just stayed out of Steffy & Liam's marital business, but he nor Brooke can't seem to resist meddling
Liam didn't put up to much of a fight when hope gave her ring back an he could have demand she put that ring back on an when he got married to hope at the wedding he flew over there to steffy to check on her an he didn't take hope on no honeymoon either an steffy was pregnant an he took her so that wasn't an excuse
Waffling Lame. He said he will go back to Steffy then waffles to Hope. Grow some balls and take some responsibility for your family! Being a father doesn't change anything for this guy, he's still a boy and not a man.
It's kind of biased no matter what since Kim Matula's Hope had the equivalent history of Jmw as Steffy. Hope was actually getting more spicier and matured when she was with Wyatt and had the glamour. Annika is nice but would love for her to tap into the Hope that was becoming more spicier and sophisticated and mature not just goody goody...that melted away with Wyatt. Miss u Kim. Annika reach into that edge and material. No more crying whiny purest. She can be good with an edge that was the best of Hope b4 Milan.
I think hope wanted liam to say no we are in love and getting married still thats why she breaks up with him
One of my favorites love it and
Hope 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎😡😡😡
They need to put Liam back with Steffy and Hope with Finn
hell no leave Finn out of this, let hope have Thomas
@@sandramoonsammy3227😂😂😂😂😂😂 No more Liam with Steffy till Liam knows how to love wholeheartedly and Steffy hopefully becomes less impulsive
What did hope expect was going to happen once the baby showed up. But she pushed hard for the marriage anyway.
I'm glad Liam and hope are not engaged anymore now he can be with stephy and his daughter Kelly who he loves very much
💙my fav season, 2018 💙Dr. Phillips
Steffy and Liam finally happy, Baby healthy
cute💙
I just can't see Liam and Steffi story.. I need to fast forward
Brooke pushed and pushed
I have got to give hope a lot of credit here she did the right thing by letting Liam go the fact that she finds out shes pregnant later doesn't change the mind that she did right here and if we're being honest this is all Bill's fault what kind of man sleeps with his son's wife when she's extremely hurt and vulnerable and then tries to destroy her family granted steffy made a mistake by sleeping with Bill but if everybody remembers the stroy line correctly they'll remember that she had literally just been told that Liam had betrayed her first by kissing Sally and she was not thinking straight at the time and Bill took advantage and if I recall this was the first time that Liam betrayed Steffy.
SO WHAT ILL MORALES 😢
Oh wow hope saying this now once she sees that liam really is gonna go back to steffy so to save face she gonna say she was the one who made the decision when the whole time liam did but was too afraid of telling hope that he was going back once he found out it was all Bill ..she is so disgusting and Brooke too for pushing her to go after a married man who is pregnant with his baby smh the Logans
Hope Liam stays with Steffi
As usual with HOpeless it's all about Me Me Me, she never thinks of anyone but herself
That wedding would have been a mistake
Liam makes me wonder as if something wrong in his head just smile instead of giving an answer
So hope gets pregnant after one pop and he goes back to her? I’ve watched it the last two years and can’t remember how this all happened
Yes she does
i am so glad that this is over and I didn't like the original hope she feels not hope like this hope.
New hope looks like Donna
Brooke couldn’t believe that Hope broke it off, because Brooke would never be so unselfish.
Yup, that's what happens when Hope is left alone to make her own decisions and Brooke can't influence her thinking. Hope literally looked him in the eyes and told him he needs to be with Steffy. That's about as straightforward as it gets.
Hope is letting Liam go because she knows he was going back to Steffy anyway… she always has a need to be seen as the one who decides what Liam does.
Hope literally said "you need to be with Kelly which means you need to be with Steffy too." You are getting what you want yet you are STILL trying to spin this to make Hope seem like a bad person. It just never ends with you haters does it?
@@QuietRiot3991 💯
Brooke is so Lying through her teeth. The nerve of her saying. It's not fair to HOpe. HOpe knew Liam was involved and Steffy was pregnant. But Brooke and Hope don't care
Hope acts like a teenager instead of an adult woman.Hope and Brooke act they care about Steffy and the baby but they don't really care at all.Hope is a drama queen is still trying to get to Liam so he would leave Steffy.Liar Hope
Liam and hope are not engaged anymore so they are not getting married again at all deal with it brookehoe and hopehoe
Havent you watched the last years? Liam married hope and steffy married finn.
Hope needs to get a life
Brooke and Hope act like Steffy got pregnant after Liam proposed to Hope. The baby wasn’t a surprise
i love you so much ladasha thomas