Alexander Theoharis That’s exactly what I feel CES is like for me! I go and walk away with all sorts of gadgets I had no idea existed that I feel like I must have.
What an excellent overview of this TV!! This TV was gifted to me so I'm expecting it soon, so I wanted to look into it more. Thank you for this video!!
This was super helpful. My 5 year old Vizio 55 inch TV just went out today and I am in the market for a replacement. This video convinced me this is the model for me! So thank you for making this!
Glad it helped!!! But also sorry to hear your Vizio went out. My friends and I talk about how we can still find an old CRT TV and the thing will turn on and work after 30 years, and yet modern ones can't seem to compete with that. Well hoping this one brings you as much entertainment as it did to me!
Glad to hear it! It's definitely one of the oddest pieces of consumer hardware I've gotten just based on how hard it is to find basic answers. Glad this is helping others!
yeah IMO uploading your own photos is what made it worth it..I couldn't see paying 300 dollars for digital art myself, but I get that everyone's different. I'm glad this helped you!
Wow. Incredibly helpful video, it answers many of the questions I couldn't find straight answers to, in my search online. I'm going to wait until they release an in-wall rated cable. Thanks for saving me some disappointment!
I just received my Samsung frame 65" 2022 and it's awesome! I'm own away by the quality of the image and how thin it is. I love the mat options for custom pics. I wish Samsung provided a way to automate this. Anyway u love it and even enjoy watching media content on it
Thank you so much, this was very informational! I could not figure out where the HDMI outlets were on the dang thing with the continuous frame! Now I know! I'm going to do an over the fireplace mount and I had a previous estimate of $1000 for a standard TV to run the electrical in the wall to the nearest outlet, which did not factor in re-plastering or paint. I can work with a tiny wire!
On any estimate like that I'd get a few, and then make sure to ask them 'how would you solve this in your own house'. Sometimes they come up with an alternative that can save you a TON of money. It may be as simple as 'if you put the box here vs there it saves xyz dollars'.
Thankyou! Yeah I got frustrated watching videos and basically hearing a spec sheet read off, drove me crazy. It's a unique TV with a lot of unique features that I think are worth explaining!
I bought the 2020, 65 inch about a month ago I bought it for the art mode and subscribe to the art gallery for me it was worth every penny. The TV mode is very, very good. My cable is mounted in the wall and not in conduit, I assume if it's installed by a contractor then they will follow code as the homeowner and installer I will do whatever I want. Bottom line if you're on the fence jump over and buy this art/tv. I wasn't disappointed and I'm thinking of buying the 43inch just for art mode and ambient mode.
Undefined name I’m about to buy the tv myself and run the cable in the wall but through a conduit. Majority of the reviews I’ve seen, people put the cable behind the wall with no conduit. However if the cable isn’t in wall rated more then likely it doesn’t matter what a contractor does. The kicker is, if a fire started due to the cable being in wall and you house burned down, you can kiss your check goodbye from your home or renter insurer. Very doubtful but that’s the risk I’m willing to take when I install mine.
Thanks! I need to make a follow up I've learned a few more tricks and tips, and have since gotten a second one. I do wish I had gotten a 2020 version now for ambient mode!
Sold! I was on the fence about adding a tv to my office wall. Saw your very real, believable review which answered all my questions. I am getting one this week. BTW there are also 3rd party companies that make compatible frames just for Samsung (they even integrate the light sensor) The frames are more “real” ie wood , thicker multiple options etc. Thank you so much for the review!!
Thankyou!!! I’ll have to check out the third party ones that’s exciting to have more options! I did a follow up to this recently that shows off some stuff I discovered. Like I didn’t realize there is a full Remote Desktop solution and VNC built in, or a slideshow option for media on a thumb drive
Thankyou! I saw some with some fancy camera work and was nervous some geek in front of his TV wouldn't come off well, so I'm glad that the info I provided was valuable enough to overlook my lack of style. I watched other videos before making this and was intimidated. The way this video blew up is amazing
This is some REALLY good info, dude. Thanks so much. I love specifically how you talk about the cable; the end thicknesses and how much you can bend it -- that's exactly what I needed to know and nobody ever discusses these things!
Glad that helped! Yeah I didn't see anyone mention that, so when I got the TV and couldn't use my existing conduit I thought 'this needs to go into a video'. So many things about this TV were just way too hard to find out!
@@geektoolkit Great informative video. Are you saying you can do an in wall install through an exterior wall as long as you are feeding it through a conduit? Does it have to be a special conduit?
Thankyou! From what I’ve read it just has to be “in wall rated” conduit. I’m not an installer so I can’t speak beyond that sadly. But yes if it’s run through in wall conduit then it’s “to code”.
@@geektoolkit Thank you, I'll make sure the electrician does this. I don't have the TV yet, any idea what the Interior diameter of the conduit should be?
Thankyou! I've got a followup coming out hopefully in the next week or so. I've had the tv for 8 months, and learned alot. The main thing is the 2020 version has some great features that I wasn't aware of, and there's a 2021 coming out that's half the thickness. the 2020 models are starting to do the price drops that the 2019 did, and yet the 2020's are great TVs.
Yeah Samsung TV's, esp. the frame panels, are criticized for black levels, but I've not seen them criticized for colors...that's like the one thing they're REALLY good at....my QN85 I just got..when watching kids content/cartoons is so colorful its astounding. Hopefully it's a backlight or panel thing and they get you sorted
Thanks for the video. Just got it up on the wall and cannot wait to enjoy all the features. Wish I had known about taking a photo of the serial number before it went up.
If it works then you can get it from a menu. Mine didn’t work and that was a big regret in that case...having to in mount a 65” during covid when I couldn’t get much help was tough
Thanks, this was helpful. I really love the concept and it is perfect for when I buy a home. For now I'll get a traditional TV but this will definitely be my home TV in the near future
@@geektoolkit I actually have my eye on the 2020 Vizio Quantum P series X 85". I currently have a Vizio and a Sony. Looking to replace the 10yrs old Brivia we have. I do love Samsung Tv's they are nice and thin with nice pictures. But vizion has me hooked. This frame though is just great for aesthetics in a room.
@@blueceligts180 Oh I just looked that up and read a bit about it...that's an awesome looking TV! Vizio has been good to me for quite a while (esp. when I get them from Costco and have their price/backing!).
Aw thankyou! I just really got excited about it and thought I'd share. My friends hadn't heard of it and so I wanted to share some of the stuff I thought was cool and unexpected.
QLED is just a marketing term for an LCD TV with a slightly fancy backlight. It’s just intended to sound like OLED, a superior display tech that Samsung doesn’t make (at least at TV sizes).
I love OLEDs contrast ratio, but for this use the screen burn in would make it unusable for this scenario. LGs OLED gallery TVs really demonstrate this when they change every five seconds. While OLED is superior on contrast, there are trade offs (color vibrancy is another area). I’m the end like most tech I think it’s all about what works for the scenario. I love my frame TVs where I want artwork, but I look forward to upgrading to an LG OLED or even a laser short throw projector at some point :)
We got a second one that's a 49, and love it as well. Went a different way with the border (dark wood to match that room) and it's really sharp. It also is ALOT easier to mount than the 65 :D
Hi Joe, have now mounted my Frame on the wall, and having used the supplied 6 large screws to affix the mounting bracket, I was surprised at the 4 tiny screws for fixing the bracket to the tv. I thought I must have missed something and would come down in the morning to find my very expensive tv lying, face down on the floor!
Yeah I felt the same at first. When my TV didn’t work initially I tried to take it off the wall though and couldn’t get it in hooked and put a lot of pressure on the screws...and they never budged. I also, after reading had only used 4. I have a feeling you’re in good shape with six in there!
LOL! Ideally review it before you buy it. That'd be awkward for me though...like what if you got a can of peas...I don't even know how to review peas. lol Thankyou for the kind comment!
Thankyou so much! I'm way behind on my comments but I'm reading through them all and really appreciate this. I'm more of a geek project channel but I've gotten some great feedback so I'm going to add tech reviews thanks to comments like yours ;)
Thankyou!! I love most fighting games...Tekken just looks so dang sweet with the current tech. I discovered 7 on a visit to Akihabara and got smoked at it (protip don’t try to learn a fighting game in a Japanese arcade). I thought my skills from Tekken Tag would carry forward...NOPE. Hworang is my fav character. Who do you play as?
@@geektoolkit That’s awesome! I’d love to play in a Japanese arcade. Those guys are too good. Hwoarang is my favorite character as well. You should add me on steam and psn. euroslick18 is my tag and I’d be down to play sometime. Also, I like the fireplace as well. I’m currently redoing mine and am looking for ideas. I did have a question and maybe you can provide some insight. I like how you said that Samsung took care of the issue you had. Do you think it’s better to purchase this expensive TV through Samsung or Amazon?
I’ll get you added on steam it’d be fun to play sometime! As far as Samsung...they cover it if the serial number shows it’s in the warranty period. We actually got ours on EBay. If you get it from Samsung it’s a bit easier for them to provide service and I think it’s a bit quicker but they took care of me within a week. But that’s why the serial number was so critical for me. They recently had some models at Costco so that may be another option to look into for price/service (I’ve always had good luck with Costco)
@@geektoolkit cool dude and thanks for mentioning ebay. I actually just bought one from there for cheaper than anywhere else. Hopefully everything goes well and there’s no problems. I was able to purchase a service for a couple years and it appears the manufacturer’s warranty is one year. Tekken on this thing will be amazing.
@@euroslick18 Yay congrats! I have a followup I'm editing tonight that'll show you some other fun stuff...I found out how to do 'true slideshow' settings if you're sharing pics with family, and you can remote desktop into a computer and use it as a monitor (pc or mac). I just keep discovering stuff it can do! And if you got the 2020, there's ambient mode and hdmi 2.1 on it. Crazy cool stuff
Hey appreciate your genuine review. I just ordered the 2024 65 verson of this in Canada, for $2500. Hella expensive. But wanted the frame look. Wanted to know, you, 4 years later, any long term issues? Has it gotten better with update, or worse? PS: you just gained a subscriber
@@sunkneeethanks! So for my four year old one things are going fine but it’s not my main tv any longer. But it didn’t have many features of the newer Samsung models, and the new frames are half the thickness which is much nicer. I have a new non frame Samsung I got which I should do a review on because the softwares much nicer with ambient mode and such. Hopefully yours has ambient mode and the game streaming if you’re a gamer
Thankyou!! And greetings from Washington USA :) I got to visit the Netherlands once, and it was insanely beautiful and friendly. The museums of Amsterdam are amazing, and the Tulips...Washington is known for it's tulips, but the tulip market in Amsterdam was amazing :) Hope you enjoy the TV!
Thankyou! Please check out the followup I just released, there are some cool scenarios I discovered now that I've had it for a while. Sending a phone up to it is super cool, but also I found out you can remote into another computer and display it on the frame and control it via a bluetooth keyboard/mouse! Some really fun scenarios there :)
@@geektoolkit they should give you percentage on sales, the salesman or the manager that took care of my purchase didn’t do a fifth of your work, thanks again 👌
wow thats so great they made a wire so that instead of plugging the TV directly behind the TV in a recessed box, now there is a non-wall rated wire that you have to somehow have to hide. great idea
Definitely not ideal. The other thing I wish they didn't do was put huge ends on it...if it was HDMI sized then existing conduit would be fine, but it's about 3x that width on the wide end. I do wish they'd either done the work to make it in wall rated, provide an optional one that is in wall rated, or made the ends smaller. That being said, for those that don't have a box wired, it is realy convenient, and having the box off to the side makes hiding components MUCH easier I find. I'm hoping more manufacturers get into this style because I feel like it would then evolve into a perfect system.
When you say highest do you mean the fastest it can do? in frame mode it can go down to I believe 5 minutes..I'll have to double check. but it does have a slideshow mode that is different (my follow video talks abou tthat). You can upload your personal artwork i they're on the same network only. If you're not on the same network you can't control it at all. I was dissapointed about that myself.
You’re right it’s not an ideal height by any means, but it’s how the house was designed. It’s the only wall a TV would make sense on in our downstairs, but much better suited for a piece of art. And the max size we could get was 65” to fit in there. We decided we’d go big in our media room and get a projector eventually, and for this room the frame ended up being a great alternative to have a screen when we needed it. I do find when I’m watching standing up while doing dishes from the adjoining kitchen that it’s a nice height though :)
Not a criticism of the video or mount, but I despise house designs that force TV up above fireplace. A well designed home would have flexibility of a wall that is well suited to a large panel television at a moderate height.
@@rolfvellek Oh I totally agree. The rest of the house made up for it luckily, and it had an epic bonus room that I got to make into a makerspace/gameroom/theater, so I picked my battles on that one :)
Great Choice Audio Video I hadn’t heard of them and just checked them out...amazingly cool! I think there’s a few problems though with this particular TV...this TV depends on a proprietary mount to make it flush with the wall....I believe that mount would make push it out and ruin the effect. Also this TV is not VESA compliant for mounting points...so you’d have to have an additional plate to adapt the holes. I think in the end unless you did a highly custom job I fear it wouldn’t work here
Just ordered the 50" 2020 model. Getting it next week. Will be mounted in a bright room and one thing I am concerned about is reflections on the screen. Will update you after I get it up and running.
Cool! I think it should be fine, we have windows and can lights in the room with ours and it’s been good for the 2019. I’d be interested to hear if the 2020 has Ambient mode as well as art mode. The 2018 reportedly had it but 2019 does not. I didn’t learn about it till recently and it looks like a very cool feature!
@@geektoolkit The 2020 indeed has the Ambient mode. It's also supposed to have an improved image when watching off-centre, which seems like a good idea for a TV-disguised-as-art :) Just received our 55" set a few days ago - it looks fantastic on the wall with the white bezel attached.
Not sure if youre still looking at these comments, but whats up with the bright white line on the top left of the screen. It appears on a lot of images and it changes in length depending on what the TV is showing. it's not always there, like when the video ends it's not there. Is that a real artifact being displayed by the TV or is it some peculiar reflection happening that wouldn't normally happen. Thank you for the video!
Yep I always look at my comments!! That line is a timer when showing artwork from the store when you’re previewing it. I wanted to show what art from the store looks like and didn’t think to mention the timer. I have a follow up video for this that goes into stuff like that and my experiences after using it for 8 months that may be of interest
Now, if I can just decide between The Frame and the Q90T. The Q90T specs blow The Frame out of the water, but I'm not sure if it can do as good of a job as appearing as artwork. In theory, it should because it has ambient mode as well, and is even thinner than the frame. I wish I could talk to somebody who owned both and used it for that purpose. I'm not sure if there are small differences in his that works between them. I think the subscription service is only available to The Frame, but I'm not as worried about that. I can always upload my own artwork and not pay for their service.
Glad you liked it! I approached it as 'this is neat and I dont know if others have seen it' and just shared what I thought was cool. I should probably do that more :)
Glad it helped! I searched for articles and reviews, wrote down all of the questions I saw, and then tried to answer them in here, so glad that approach seems to have worked!
Thankyou!!! Image searches in search engines using things like “4K desktop wallpaper” or “4K Star Wars fan art”. Just took time but I’m glad they’re appreciated!
I’m wanting to mount this over a fireplace. Can I run the single cable through the wall and have everything plug in behind the wall (cable, cat5, power, etc) or are there some things that I would need accessible directly behind the tv on the fireplace? Thanks!
That's actually the beauty of the design...there's a single wire (it's I think 2-3inches thick on the end) that you'd have to run, and then that goes to a 'box'. The box has all of the plugins on the back of it, including power. So if you can run a conduit big enough to get that wire through, then you can have everything plugged in off tot he side and have a very very clean setup
Thank you for the review! This is one of the best review video i have seen! One question about the searching. Is it easy to search with their app instead of using the controller?
Do you mean using voice? I haven’t had great luck with the voice...we had to turn it off. It would start listening and triggering in the middle of conversations, and didn’t have great recognition.
Thanks for the detailed review and insights from your experience. It's a beautiful TV and as an art lover, this really should be my obvious choice but I also love watching movies with my hi-fi surround sound system. I still love The Samsung Frame concept and it is gorgeous looking but the price of admission is a bit steep considering the tech spec is a bit lacking compared with the Sony X900H (2020) and LG 90 Nanocell (2020). Only if I can have the tech spec of the Sony X900H (2020) with the gorgeous Samsung Frame display and The Art Gallery mode (and art subscription)...Life would be perfect.
Yeah, I'm hoping that this 'form factor' takes off and that more companies offer a version. I heard LG was supposed to ship an OLED version, but I haven't seen an update on that yet. I'd like to have more options of brands and tech. I LOVE that my living room doesn't have an obvious TV, and I'm finding that having my family pictures up on the TV has been really really nice for ambiance. We can only hope either other TV makers jump onboard, or that TV tech in general just becomes more invisible. Some of the 4k UHD laser projectors are promising, but last I saw they're still 5k.
I dont know if there are any...can you use the phone smarthome app? If not i'd order another remote, this tv doesn't have many buttons to control it and certainly not enough to make it highly usable without a remote.
is the ADT the android development setup? if so I think it's 12345 while in the 'store' to bring up the menu, but I'll have to double check. I am investigating a videos showing sideloading apps to it :)
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This was a super helpful video about something I didn't realize I wanted until just now.
Alexander Theoharis That’s exactly what I feel CES is like for me! I go and walk away with all sorts of gadgets I had no idea existed that I feel like I must have.
GeekToolkit ty
thank you for making this video! i'm currently shopping this TV and it's nice to see a video on the realities of owning it.
Yay Thankyou! I had a hard time from the marketing materials understanding a lot of things so was hoping to help others...I’m glad it’s helpful!
Yeah this was very helpful..I was thinking about taking the plung and getting 2..I think I'm going to narrow it down to 1..
Literally everything I wanted to know about this tv and more. Big respect
Thankyou! Glad it helped!
What an excellent overview of this TV!! This TV was gifted to me so I'm expecting it soon, so I wanted to look into it more. Thank you for this video!!
Aw thankyou for the kind comment! Have a blast with it, and enjoy putting artwork on it!
This was super helpful. My 5 year old Vizio 55 inch TV just went out today and I am in the market for a replacement. This video convinced me this is the model for me! So thank you for making this!
Glad it helped!!! But also sorry to hear your Vizio went out. My friends and I talk about how we can still find an old CRT TV and the thing will turn on and work after 30 years, and yet modern ones can't seem to compete with that. Well hoping this one brings you as much entertainment as it did to me!
Nice video, clearly explained - well done!
Thankyou!!
looking into buying this for my kitchen. You unravelled the many mysteries! I appreciate that!!
Glad to hear it! It's definitely one of the oddest pieces of consumer hardware I've gotten just based on how hard it is to find basic answers. Glad this is helping others!
So thorough, thank you. I didn’t think about the subscription for artwork. That threw me for a loop but I’m glad you can upload your own photos
yeah IMO uploading your own photos is what made it worth it..I couldn't see paying 300 dollars for digital art myself, but I get that everyone's different. I'm glad this helped you!
Wow. Incredibly helpful video, it answers many of the questions I couldn't find straight answers to, in my search online. I'm going to wait until they release an in-wall rated cable. Thanks for saving me some disappointment!
I just received my Samsung frame 65" 2022 and it's awesome! I'm own away by the quality of the image and how thin it is. I love the mat options for custom pics. I wish Samsung provided a way to automate this. Anyway u love it and even enjoy watching media content on it
Excellent!!! Congrats on it!
Thank you so much, this was very informational! I could not figure out where the HDMI outlets were on the dang thing with the continuous frame! Now I know! I'm going to do an over the fireplace mount and I had a previous estimate of $1000 for a standard TV to run the electrical in the wall to the nearest outlet, which did not factor in re-plastering or paint. I can work with a tiny wire!
On any estimate like that I'd get a few, and then make sure to ask them 'how would you solve this in your own house'. Sometimes they come up with an alternative that can save you a TON of money. It may be as simple as 'if you put the box here vs there it saves xyz dollars'.
Thank you for all the explanation in depth, other RUclipsrs just showed the features they saw on Amazon or Samsung website
Thankyou! Yeah I got frustrated watching videos and basically hearing a spec sheet read off, drove me crazy. It's a unique TV with a lot of unique features that I think are worth explaining!
Thank you so much for this informative video. You answered my questions and gave info I didn’t even know I needed to know.
Yay I'm so glad! Sometimes I make the video I wish I'd seen in hopes it helps others, and glad it did!
I bought the 2020, 65 inch about a month ago I bought it for the art mode and subscribe to the art gallery for me it was worth every penny. The TV mode is very, very good. My cable is mounted in the wall and not in conduit, I assume if it's installed by a contractor then they will follow code as the homeowner and installer I will do whatever I want. Bottom line if you're on the fence jump over and buy this art/tv. I wasn't disappointed and I'm thinking of buying the 43inch just for art mode and ambient mode.
Undefined name I’m about to buy the tv myself and run the cable in the wall but through a conduit. Majority of the reviews I’ve seen, people put the cable behind the wall with no conduit.
However if the cable isn’t in wall rated more then likely it doesn’t matter what a contractor does. The kicker is, if a fire started due to the cable being in wall and you house burned down, you can kiss your check goodbye from your home or renter insurer. Very doubtful but that’s the risk I’m willing to take when I install mine.
Great video. Thank you. Kicking myself for not finding this video earlier.
Thanks! I need to make a follow up I've learned a few more tricks and tips, and have since gotten a second one. I do wish I had gotten a 2020 version now for ambient mode!
Sold! I was on the fence about adding a tv to my office wall. Saw your very real, believable review which answered all my questions. I am getting one this week. BTW there are also 3rd party companies that make compatible frames just for Samsung (they even integrate the light sensor) The frames are more “real” ie wood , thicker multiple options etc. Thank you so much for the review!!
Thankyou!!! I’ll have to check out the third party ones that’s exciting to have more options! I did a follow up to this recently that shows off some stuff I discovered. Like I didn’t realize there is a full Remote Desktop solution and VNC built in, or a slideshow option for media on a thumb drive
Thanks. Great info
Best video on this frame tv I've seen, nice job
Thankyou! I saw some with some fancy camera work and was nervous some geek in front of his TV wouldn't come off well, so I'm glad that the info I provided was valuable enough to overlook my lack of style. I watched other videos before making this and was intimidated. The way this video blew up is amazing
This is some REALLY good info, dude. Thanks so much. I love specifically how you talk about the cable; the end thicknesses and how much you can bend it -- that's exactly what I needed to know and nobody ever discusses these things!
Glad that helped! Yeah I didn't see anyone mention that, so when I got the TV and couldn't use my existing conduit I thought 'this needs to go into a video'. So many things about this TV were just way too hard to find out!
@@geektoolkit Great informative video. Are you saying you can do an in wall install through an exterior wall as long as you are feeding it through a conduit? Does it have to be a special conduit?
Thankyou! From what I’ve read it just has to be “in wall rated” conduit. I’m not an installer so I can’t speak beyond that sadly. But yes if it’s run through in wall conduit then it’s “to code”.
@@geektoolkit Thank you, I'll make sure the electrician does this. I don't have the TV yet, any idea what the Interior diameter of the conduit should be?
@@karenbytherideau I'll have to measure it, I don't offhand. I think it was like 2" or so
I appreciate you taking the time to create this video.
Thankyou! I've got a followup coming out hopefully in the next week or so. I've had the tv for 8 months, and learned alot. The main thing is the 2020 version has some great features that I wasn't aware of, and there's a 2021 coming out that's half the thickness. the 2020 models are starting to do the price drops that the 2019 did, and yet the 2020's are great TVs.
Just moved house and am looking for a bedroom TV. This video was excellent and i am definitely interested in getting this system. Thank you.
Glad it helped!!
I wonder in the future if people will swing back to wanting tvs thatook like tvs? In the 80s, we loved our big sound systems.
I own two CRTs so maybe? lol
Thank you for all the great information about Samsung frame tv ....great video and information
Glad it helped!
That was excellent, thank you. This may well have to go on my shortlist...
Cool! I hope you enjoy it as much as I'm enjoying mine :)
Great breakdown. I'm considering buying this tv and while looking around this video was recommended. Great view!
Thankyou!! I really appreciate that, and the support of the community that made this recommended viewing!
Nice review! The Samsung Smart-remote is actually a Bluetooth-remote so there is no infra red used on the tv itself.
ThankyouI didn’t realize that till after, it’s awesome that they did that!
Really helpful video which has helped me decide to buy this tv
Yay! Glad it helped! Enjoy it, they're neat...it's like two toys in one...a neat smart TV and then a neat picture frame :)
Wow, this is as good a "review" as it gets! Features, costs, tidbits & lessons learned... Thanks, you did an amazing job !
Thankyou I appreciate that!!
Thanks for your video. I'm going to buy this TV soon and you help me! Thanks again
It is brand new. I will contact Samsung to check it out. Thanks for responding.
Yeah Samsung TV's, esp. the frame panels, are criticized for black levels, but I've not seen them criticized for colors...that's like the one thing they're REALLY good at....my QN85 I just got..when watching kids content/cartoons is so colorful its astounding. Hopefully it's a backlight or panel thing and they get you sorted
Superb video. Can’t wait to get mine
Thanks for the video. Just got it up on the wall and cannot wait to enjoy all the features. Wish I had known about taking a photo of the serial number before it went up.
If it works then you can get it from a menu. Mine didn’t work and that was a big regret in that case...having to in mount a 65” during covid when I couldn’t get much help was tough
Thanks, this was helpful. I really love the concept and it is perfect for when I buy a home. For now I'll get a traditional TV but this will definitely be my home TV in the near future
It’s been fun! If you get a Samsung for your traditional see if it has “ambient mode”. That looks like a fun feature I wish this had :)
@@geektoolkit I actually have my eye on the 2020 Vizio Quantum P series X 85". I currently have a Vizio and a Sony. Looking to replace the 10yrs old Brivia we have. I do love Samsung Tv's they are nice and thin with nice pictures. But vizion has me hooked. This frame though is just great for aesthetics in a room.
@@blueceligts180 Oh I just looked that up and read a bit about it...that's an awesome looking TV! Vizio has been good to me for quite a while (esp. when I get them from Costco and have their price/backing!).
This is just a brilliant video. Real opinions from a real customer.
Aw thankyou! I just really got excited about it and thought I'd share. My friends hadn't heard of it and so I wanted to share some of the stuff I thought was cool and unexpected.
@@geektoolkit based on your video I bought the 2020 50" model and could not be happier. Thanks again
Great video and this helps out a lot since I am considering a Samsung Frame TV or a Meural 27" digital art frame.
QLED is just a marketing term for an LCD TV with a slightly fancy backlight. It’s just intended to sound like OLED, a superior display tech that Samsung doesn’t make (at least at TV sizes).
I love OLEDs contrast ratio, but for this use the screen burn in would make it unusable for this scenario. LGs OLED gallery TVs really demonstrate this when they change every five seconds. While OLED is superior on contrast, there are trade offs (color vibrancy is another area). I’m the end like most tech I think it’s all about what works for the scenario. I love my frame TVs where I want artwork, but I look forward to upgrading to an LG OLED or even a laser short throw projector at some point :)
Thanks for this helpful, in-depth video !
Glad you liked it!
Really great info
Very useful video. I've got my 49" arriving in the next couple of days so I'm looking forward to getting to know it.
We got a second one that's a 49, and love it as well. Went a different way with the border (dark wood to match that room) and it's really sharp. It also is ALOT easier to mount than the 65 :D
Thank you... very informative and useful.
You are welcome! I just did a followup with even more stuff if you're interested!
Thank you! excellent video, just what i was looking for from a review, answered the questions i needed, thanks again-subscribed
Yay glad it helped! Also Love your avatar!!!
Hi Joe, have now mounted my Frame on the wall, and having used the supplied 6 large screws to affix the mounting bracket, I was surprised at the 4 tiny screws for fixing the bracket to the tv. I thought I must have missed something and would come down in the morning to find my very expensive tv lying, face down on the floor!
Yeah I felt the same at first. When my TV didn’t work initially I tried to take it off the wall though and couldn’t get it in hooked and put a lot of pressure on the screws...and they never budged. I also, after reading had only used 4. I have a feeling you’re in good shape with six in there!
Great video, been considering this in our own home. Thank you for the excellent overview!
Thankyou glad it helped!!
Well done- I need you to review everything I buy. 👌
LOL! Ideally review it before you buy it. That'd be awkward for me though...like what if you got a can of peas...I don't even know how to review peas. lol Thankyou for the kind comment!
Thanks so much for this, super helpful. You are great at product reviews. Keep it coming!
Thankyou so much! I'm way behind on my comments but I'm reading through them all and really appreciate this. I'm more of a geek project channel but I've gotten some great feedback so I'm going to add tech reviews thanks to comments like yours ;)
Thank you for this, very informative !
Glad you liked it!!
Thanks for the info great video
Glad it helped! It's a neat TV, but not well understood
Really well made and informative video.. thank you!
Thankyou!
Bro you play Tekken!!!! I’m buying just ‘cause I saw Tekken. Great video by the way!
Thankyou!! I love most fighting games...Tekken just looks so dang sweet with the current tech. I discovered 7 on a visit to Akihabara and got smoked at it (protip don’t try to learn a fighting game in a Japanese arcade). I thought my skills from Tekken Tag would carry forward...NOPE. Hworang is my fav character. Who do you play as?
@@geektoolkit That’s awesome! I’d love to play in a Japanese arcade. Those guys are too good. Hwoarang is my favorite character as well. You should add me on steam and psn. euroslick18 is my tag and I’d be down to play sometime. Also, I like the fireplace as well. I’m currently redoing mine and am looking for ideas. I did have a question and maybe you can provide some insight. I like how you said that Samsung took care of the issue you had. Do you think it’s better to purchase this expensive TV through Samsung or Amazon?
I’ll get you added on steam it’d be fun to play sometime! As far as Samsung...they cover it if the serial number shows it’s in the warranty period. We actually got ours on EBay. If you get it from Samsung it’s a bit easier for them to provide service and I think it’s a bit quicker but they took care of me within a week. But that’s why the serial number was so critical for me. They recently had some models at Costco so that may be another option to look into for price/service (I’ve always had good luck with Costco)
@@geektoolkit cool dude and thanks for mentioning ebay. I actually just bought one from there for cheaper than anywhere else. Hopefully everything goes well and there’s no problems. I was able to purchase a service for a couple years and it appears the manufacturer’s warranty is one year. Tekken on this thing will be amazing.
@@euroslick18 Yay congrats! I have a followup I'm editing tonight that'll show you some other fun stuff...I found out how to do 'true slideshow' settings if you're sharing pics with family, and you can remote desktop into a computer and use it as a monitor (pc or mac). I just keep discovering stuff it can do! And if you got the 2020, there's ambient mode and hdmi 2.1 on it. Crazy cool stuff
Thank you for being so on point with information 👌
Always! Thankyou for the kind comment!
This was so helpful! Thank you!
Glad to help!!
Thank you for the thorough and very helpful information. Well done!
Thankyou!!
Thanks answered all my questions!
Yay! Keep in mind this is a few versions old and they may have updated a bit too!
Hey appreciate your genuine review. I just ordered the 2024 65 verson of this in Canada, for $2500. Hella expensive. But wanted the frame look.
Wanted to know, you, 4 years later, any long term issues? Has it gotten better with update, or worse?
PS: you just gained a subscriber
@@sunkneeethanks! So for my four year old one things are going fine but it’s not my main tv any longer. But it didn’t have many features of the newer Samsung models, and the new frames are half the thickness which is much nicer. I have a new non frame Samsung I got which I should do a review on because the softwares much nicer with ambient mode and such. Hopefully yours has ambient mode and the game streaming if you’re a gamer
Hi Joe. Greetings from the Netherlands. Great video, thanks. Ordered my “the Frame” today. Can’t wait.
-subbed- take care. William
Thankyou!! And greetings from Washington USA :) I got to visit the Netherlands once, and it was insanely beautiful and friendly. The museums of Amsterdam are amazing, and the Tulips...Washington is known for it's tulips, but the tulip market in Amsterdam was amazing :) Hope you enjoy the TV!
Very detail explanation. Great Video!
Thankyou!!
Great video! Cant wait to try out your ideas on our new Frame.
Thankyou! Please check out the followup I just released, there are some cool scenarios I discovered now that I've had it for a while. Sending a phone up to it is super cool, but also I found out you can remote into another computer and display it on the frame and control it via a bluetooth keyboard/mouse! Some really fun scenarios there :)
very good review, thanks for your time
Glad you liked it! Thankyou for the support :)
Great video -- exactly what I was looking for!
Perfect!
This is the best review I have ever watched! Thank you!
Glad you liked it Thankyou!!
extremely helpful, thank you!
Thankyou for the kind comment, and I'm glad it helped!
Thank you. Your video answered a lot of questions.
You're welcome! I wish I could go back in time and watch it, because i had all of these questions and wow it was hard finding answers :)
Thanks for the patience and explanations man just bought it, just subscribed also, take care 😉👍
Tha is for the support!!!
@@geektoolkit they should give you percentage on sales, the salesman or the manager that took care of my purchase didn’t do a fifth of your work, thanks again 👌
wow thats so great they made a wire so that instead of plugging the TV directly behind the TV in a recessed box, now there is a non-wall rated wire that you have to somehow have to hide. great idea
Definitely not ideal. The other thing I wish they didn't do was put huge ends on it...if it was HDMI sized then existing conduit would be fine, but it's about 3x that width on the wide end. I do wish they'd either done the work to make it in wall rated, provide an optional one that is in wall rated, or made the ends smaller. That being said, for those that don't have a box wired, it is realy convenient, and having the box off to the side makes hiding components MUCH easier I find. I'm hoping more manufacturers get into this style because I feel like it would then evolve into a perfect system.
Appreciate this information very much. Thank you!
Your welcome! Thank you for the kind comment glad it helped
Really nice video. Thanks for all the info.
Thanks So much for this...I thinking of getting to the 43" and you swaying me to buy it.
A couple questions:
-What’s is the highest rotation speed option for the art works
-Can I upload my personal artwork remotely (different WiFi’s)
When you say highest do you mean the fastest it can do? in frame mode it can go down to I believe 5 minutes..I'll have to double check. but it does have a slideshow mode that is different (my follow video talks abou tthat).
You can upload your personal artwork i they're on the same network only. If you're not on the same network you can't control it at all. I was dissapointed about that myself.
You convinced me to definitely buy it now :D
Awesome hope you enjoy it! I’m actually watching RUclips in mine now while responding to comments...still love it
Thanks for that. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
great video , thanks!
Extremely useful info, and well presented - thank you!
Excelent video. Thanks for sharing! One question: how much we can pull down from the mounted wall (in case of lower seating)?
Robson Ferreira I believe it’s 10 degrees. It’s quite a bit more than I expected.
Great feedback, great TV, Great look, but my that seems to be mounted too high for TV watching.
You’re right it’s not an ideal height by any means, but it’s how the house was designed. It’s the only wall a TV would make sense on in our downstairs, but much better suited for a piece of art. And the max size we could get was 65” to fit in there. We decided we’d go big in our media room and get a projector eventually, and for this room the frame ended up being a great alternative to have a screen when we needed it. I do find when I’m watching standing up while doing dishes from the adjoining kitchen that it’s a nice height though :)
Not a criticism of the video or mount, but I despise house designs that force TV up above fireplace. A well designed home would have flexibility of a wall that is well suited to a large panel television at a moderate height.
@@rolfvellek Oh I totally agree. The rest of the house made up for it luckily, and it had an epic bonus room that I got to make into a makerspace/gameroom/theater, so I picked my battles on that one :)
@@geektoolkit A Mantel Mount would work perfectly here. Thoughts?
Great Choice Audio Video I hadn’t heard of them and just checked them out...amazingly cool! I think there’s a few problems though with this particular TV...this TV depends on a proprietary mount to make it flush with the wall....I believe that mount would make push it out and ruin the effect. Also this TV is not VESA compliant for mounting points...so you’d have to have an additional plate to adapt the holes. I think in the end unless you did a highly custom job I fear it wouldn’t work here
Just ordered the 50" 2020 model. Getting it next week. Will be mounted in a bright room and one thing I am concerned about is reflections on the screen. Will update you after I get it up and running.
Cool! I think it should be fine, we have windows and can lights in the room with ours and it’s been good for the 2019. I’d be interested to hear if the 2020 has Ambient mode as well as art mode. The 2018 reportedly had it but 2019 does not. I didn’t learn about it till recently and it looks like a very cool feature!
@@geektoolkit The 2020 indeed has the Ambient mode. It's also supposed to have an improved image when watching off-centre, which seems like a good idea for a TV-disguised-as-art :) Just received our 55" set a few days ago - it looks fantastic on the wall with the white bezel attached.
@@jonashamre9738 hi Jonas what about the picture quality please, can i find better and what are the things you do not like about that TV
thank you, this was very helpful
Thankyou for the feedback glad it helped!
I love this TV. Gonna buy
Not sure if youre still looking at these comments, but whats up with the bright white line on the top left of the screen. It appears on a lot of images and it changes in length depending on what the TV is showing. it's not always there, like when the video ends it's not there. Is that a real artifact being displayed by the TV or is it some peculiar reflection happening that wouldn't normally happen. Thank you for the video!
Yep I always look at my comments!! That line is a timer when showing artwork from the store when you’re previewing it. I wanted to show what art from the store looks like and didn’t think to mention the timer. I have a follow up video for this that goes into stuff like that and my experiences after using it for 8 months that may be of interest
So helpful!
Excellent! Thanks for the feedback and glad it helped!
Now, if I can just decide between The Frame and the Q90T. The Q90T specs blow The Frame out of the water, but I'm not sure if it can do as good of a job as appearing as artwork. In theory, it should because it has ambient mode as well, and is even thinner than the frame. I wish I could talk to somebody who owned both and used it for that purpose. I'm not sure if there are small differences in his that works between them. I think the subscription service is only available to The Frame, but I'm not as worried about that. I can always upload my own artwork and not pay for their service.
Great vid, very informative - thank you
Thankyou for the kind comment!
Great review. Really helpful and genuine stuff!
Glad you liked it! I approached it as 'this is neat and I dont know if others have seen it' and just shared what I thought was cool. I should probably do that more :)
@@geektoolkit 💯 absolutely.
Great job, got all my answers
Glad it helped! I searched for articles and reviews, wrote down all of the questions I saw, and then tried to answer them in here, so glad that approach seems to have worked!
Excellent review- thanks. Great info.
Good job man! Really helpful!
This was very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Excellent job! Kudos
Thankyou!
lol i wonder if you wanted to add any features you saw from the tv to your Dynaframe program
Oh yes :) I'm working on motion and local dimming, but they're tough when you don't 'own' the panel electronics like Samsung does...
Thank You, all my question answered!
Yay perfect! That was my intent...I even browsed FAQs on Amazon to get some ideas of stuff people were asking :)
Thank you!
Your welcome!
Loved your review, it was super helpful. I am curious. Where did you get your wallpapers, they looked amazing.
Thankyou!!! Image searches in search engines using things like “4K desktop wallpaper” or “4K Star Wars fan art”. Just took time but I’m glad they’re appreciated!
Great review, thank you.
excellent video ! Thank you ..subscribed !
Wait what 😂
hoezay everywhere !😍🤩
btw hoezay..pleaseee dont discontinue the series where you feature chloe..they are so damn cute
I’m wanting to mount this over a fireplace. Can I run the single cable through the wall and have everything plug in behind the wall (cable, cat5, power, etc) or are there some things that I would need accessible directly behind the tv on the fireplace? Thanks!
That's actually the beauty of the design...there's a single wire (it's I think 2-3inches thick on the end) that you'd have to run, and then that goes to a 'box'. The box has all of the plugins on the back of it, including power. So if you can run a conduit big enough to get that wire through, then you can have everything plugged in off tot he side and have a very very clean setup
Thanks for the detailed video. Does anyone know how the glare on this tv is when compared to the Q80T? Thanks again.
Thank you for the review! This is one of the best review video i have seen! One question about the searching. Is it easy to search with their app instead of using the controller?
Do you mean using voice? I haven’t had great luck with the voice...we had to turn it off. It would start listening and triggering in the middle of conversations, and didn’t have great recognition.
GeekToolkit I meant is there a way to do search without the voice and with the app in the phone by typing?
Thanks for the detailed review and insights from your experience. It's a beautiful TV and as an art lover, this really should be my obvious choice but I also love watching movies with my hi-fi surround sound system. I still love The Samsung Frame concept and it is gorgeous looking but the price of admission is a bit steep considering the tech spec is a bit lacking compared with the Sony X900H (2020) and LG 90 Nanocell (2020). Only if I can have the tech spec of the Sony X900H (2020) with the gorgeous Samsung Frame display and The Art Gallery mode (and art subscription)...Life would be perfect.
Yeah, I'm hoping that this 'form factor' takes off and that more companies offer a version. I heard LG was supposed to ship an OLED version, but I haven't seen an update on that yet. I'd like to have more options of brands and tech. I LOVE that my living room doesn't have an obvious TV, and I'm finding that having my family pictures up on the TV has been really really nice for ambiance. We can only hope either other TV makers jump onboard, or that TV tech in general just becomes more invisible. Some of the 4k UHD laser projectors are promising, but last I saw they're still 5k.
great explanation.
Thankyou! I appreciate the kind comment :)
Great video! How do I find the Manual control as I have broke my remote?
I dont know if there are any...can you use the phone smarthome app? If not i'd order another remote, this tv doesn't have many buttons to control it and certainly not enough to make it highly usable without a remote.
Would help if you showed what buttons you need to press for the the Adt
is the ADT the android development setup? if so I think it's 12345 while in the 'store' to bring up the menu, but I'll have to double check. I am investigating a videos showing sideloading apps to it :)