HOW TO WELD A DIFF....THE CORRECT WAY!!!
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2019
- A few good tips and tricks in this one. Hopefully you guys take something away from this video and make sure your diff is welded properly. Nothing like being mid drift and having your diff explode.
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Finally, somebody that knows what they're doing lol
For the most part. I would welded a series of passes covering the whole plate and essentially doing a "2 over" pass. Just for extra insurance.
He should have welded the gears to the carrier also all the stress is going to be on the pin now an when that goes its all going to blow up carrier and all of he welds the gears to the carrier it will make it stronger cause then the whole thing it talking the force instead a ³/⁴ rod
@@bustedwrenchgarage2051 carrier is made of cast iron Imbecile 😂
Biggest issue is how TF u getting the c clips for the axles back in? I mean this particular car might not have them but a lot of diffs do so the way he did it means no c clips no crossing going back in
We welded my ford rear and it still works fine. 44 inch Mudders both turn and never a problem. Saved me from buying a locker. Why not. My family has had over 1000 HP engines for these applications and the rear end works just fine. Never a problem when done properly. Since the 1970s dad used to do this
How you weld it to hold 1000 HP?
The only problem i'm having now is my volvo smoking tires :P Thanks for the great tutourial man!
better than just the one burning!
There it is. The most clear video you need to watch on RUclips about welding diffs.
Nice one fella 👌
Thank you so much.
The no bullshit guide I wanted 👍🏻
The plates are definitely the way to it.
Excellent example to spool diff. Looked at another of videos of this topic. I think yours was the best example. Liked the plate idea. Good work. Thanks
Well done, great video. Always thought the process wasnt reliable, so i went with a locker instead. I turn 35" mud tires with some h.p. behind it. But if I get a chance, I'd like to try your method. Looks very promising. Once again, great video.
Perfect video with important details I could see me forgetting or doing wrong. Good to know.
I’ve gotta say your a amazing welder that sizzling bacon sound is golden and very consistent
Finally An Old School Deal That was done in Early 50'' s to Late 60' s!! Love it man ! You got it Right!! State of the ART!
Thanks man I knew it needed to be hot before welding but I didn't know it had to be that hot so thanks. 350 degrees and balls out on the welder. Good video thanks.
Excellent explanation and detail. That's the cutest diff I've ever seen, btw lol.
LOL! Did you see how the welding wire from the mig was able to push it out of the way? It's so tiny.
211 amps is about 28 volts which i use for vertical up welding with a weave pattern which i find would be still abit cold. I'd recommend at least 30 volts for better fusion with at least a 60 degree preheat. I would also after welding, wrap it up in a fire blanket to slow the cooling down as fast cooling could cause cracking due to weld and parent metals becoming brittle. If your method works, so be it.
Ya, I was wondering about getting underbead cracks for that very reason
I always tape up the bearings and ring gear surface with multi layers of masking tape to keep from having hot metal sparks land there and cause a surface defect.
Great video spent ages looking for a video on this and most just waffled on about other stuff and didn't even show or explain what they're doing. Great stuff 👍
Excellence !!! and thank you sir !!! i will make my friend watch this 20 times, before he starts LOL because he welds, but never done a diff before....
2 years later and I’m that “friend” watching this video 😂😂
All good tips ... Just be sure not to plate both sides of you need to install c clips to hold your axles in place lol
Lol yeah I've seen that done before. I've never done it though luckily!
Ok, so you only plate the one side correct? I was thinking this exact thing and began to wonder how many people actually weld a plate on crap sides.... lol
You know it’s funny because I welded my diff the first time with a harbor freight welder and not enough heat and it did exactly what you said 😂. Had to buy a new one and total was 1000!! For all new seals and ring and pinion. Im doing it with a miller this time
really want to weld my porsche 718 open diff, thanks for the video! very informative
Don't forget about the axel retainer 👀
I've always been against welding the rear end but that plate is a good idea.
Oh really? So how do you get the c clips in with the plates in the way.....uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh😂🤣yeah no
@@thehulkamaniabrother2.089 I was thinking the same thing 😂 but it’s race car stuff 🤷🏽♂️
2 years later I'm wondering the same thing
You only plate 1 side, then on the other side weld the corners and I personally weld the gears to the carrier itself
I appreciate the info. Learned A LOT!
Thanks for the great explanation! Looks like I will be trying that!
Good info and instruction, thank you.
Good job and very useful video!
Way awesome video man thankyou! Great info
I am welding my aristo diff TOMORROW!
Thanks alot for your great video.👍
Greetings from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Best video i could come across
Always a great vid
Thank you! Great video!
Just some advice I would definitely cover up the bearings as well from slag👍🏻
Well done! Thank you!!!
A lot of great information.
I live in australia and welded my diff on my commodore with a 110 amp welder lol works fine and havent had an issue, its been on my car for 3 years, i have 3:08 diff gears
@A. Melbs Weldies have gotten me picked up twice, defected once. If ya worried about cops just invest in an LSD or a mini spool. Stronger anyway
Funny cause i wanted to weld my FC Rx7, if thats the cause then this should be very useful. Thanks
I cut a thin sheet of steel that looks like a C ... it covers the ring gear when welding that side.
Anti splatter spray it also.
This is how i do it while still in the axle house.
Thanks for the video i could only watch half of it as it gave me arc eye 😎
very informative. great video
dont forget if got c clips you leave one side open to get them and out
So if I got c clips I can still take the center out, get it welded and as long as one side is open, still get the axles back in?
Great Vid!
Great vid, thanks!
well done thanks for this ❤
cool thanks for the vid bro now ima weld my diff
Well done
You totally know what you do
Thank you for the video I already subscribe
The video is excellent however the proper way to weld the gears is with arc welding using a more powerful three-phase current. Also Since you are heating up de diff and all that work is best to press out the old side bearings and replaced with new ones
the comments, the customer put new bearings, new ring and pinion, and 3 phase,,,is not more powerful, (its about welder and settings and I do think arc is better also, but not everyone runs a Sa200 or such ) I think a decent 220 mig would do it if they took their time and preheated good too bad was not dissassembed and ground a bit for prep (but who takes that much time and care?)
This is a badass channel....
Do you have some sort of diagram of like what each and every single parts are so we know exactly what to weld and what not to weld?
Unfortunately if the diff breaks with that plate in there it will DESTROY the housing for the diff. Just happened to me. The housing for the diff can cost as much as the diff itself. Just a forewarning
great video boss! GG
Great job, Great vid
For Jeep... that plate goes on one side only. When you're done you have to take the center pin out so you can get the clips on the shafts. REMEMBER PLATE ON ONE SIDE ONLY
Dude your welds are nicee😌
I was getting stuck on wet grass I Lincoln locked I always plate the gears before Lincoln locking
I've never had one break.
Great video
Yes, careful with the ring gear. But the bearings likes slag ;)
and they make good ground
Hopefully those bearings didn’t get splatter on them or get replaced. Good video
I blew the spider gears on my first car('68 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 455) doing 60 down the highway. Too many one wheel peels I guess. I welded the side gears to the carrier with a 110 welder, bc it's all I had access to. No spider gears at all haha they were gone. It would randomly break one side, and the car would do endless burnouts. I could spin the tire at 60mph because it was basically direct drive from the ring gear to one axle. Luckily the GP rear end had bolt in axles from the factory(no junk c clips which would have tossed an axle). I eventually used a friend's 220 welder and that held up for years until I sold the car. I never should have sold that car
Thank you!
How about if you made a plexi glass box too House the go Pro to get a better close-up shots just an idea keep up the good work 😎👊🏽
Thats a great idea!
im doing a 10 bolts gm today with the aurburn diff. the gear are shot and the pin is bent into a s that is why im doing it
What should I do if after welding the diff using plates the car shakes after 60mph?
My old welded diff looked like rats nest compared to those welds😂 it lasted atleast 4 owners tho.
Is it safe on high speed?
@@landofcivilization7894 well depends are u going straight :D
@@maxx9941
I will drift and drag but I am afraid on high speed something happens
@@landofcivilization7894 it will go sideways if u dont have traction, like always because 100% lock and maybe broke few axels depends how u abuse it, plus it will eat your tires pretty quick.
@@maxx9941
Well in that case better If I get an LSD
very informative
Nice, I wish you could weld one for my 01 Suburban for off reading 📚
Hi yes seem to be really solid. But how Do you put back the c clip that hold the axle?
good shit bro.
So I have a question. If you put those plates to help strengthen everything how do you secure or ever pull your axles out again? No access to the c clips. At least in my instance I wouldn't be able to put plates. I don't know bout that diff you welded how those axle shafts lock in......
What about the bearings and ring gear serfice should it be covered.
Is that car door in the background from an e39?
Looks so familiar.
Andreas D it is!
Toasty stuff love it1👍
What is your method for heating up that differential?
I have a 93 ford ranger with limited slip can it be lock welded and could a stick be used.
so with fwd, just tack nuts too spider gears? and just filler up with weld..?
Those bearings could possibly be toasted also. Good practice is too replace them or remove them so you do get too much heat into them. You might have a strong welded diff but it will be noisey 💁♂️
The customer replaced all of the bearings as well as the ring and pinion.
How thick of plate did you use? It would be for a Toyota
weld spatter on bearings!!!!!! big no no, cover the bearings, Tig weld if you can.
The customer replaced the bearings with new ones. Good info for everyone though! Thank you.
Do you not need to put the c clip back in? Or does that diff not use one?
How did you put your keys in that hold your axles in with that pate there
Your case - hardened ring gear is a magnet for spatter .splines too.
Smear your gear in tip,- dip. Yay.
What happens if an axle snaps, Is there an easy way to replace it or does it just have to get cut out?
Damn good job buddy
If anyone is wondering there is a company called Rise Fab Shop that makes premade R200 weld in plates for $12
Did you use ER 70-6 wire on this?
Also you don't want any splatter on the splines , it will cause your axles not to go in then you'll have to do a bunch of de-burring.....
What size did you cut the plates to. ?
What other material to use to weld if I don’t have mig
Will you have too get new bearings where they got so hot
How much should someone pay to have this done ?
Where is your shop ?
Great video
how do you get the c clips in/out
Do you weld diffs for people and how much?
What type of shop do you run, I’ve literally been calling fabrication shops in my town and they have no clue what I’m talking about when I ask if they can weld a diff
I'm an everything shop. General maint, fabrication, machining, I do it all.
Could i weld my half ton truck rear differential?
Back Country69 yes
Did you flux core that or .030 or .035? Just wondering as I have to do one in a Dakota and I have a mig but wasn't sure which wire to use, maybe flux core cux it gets hotter? But throws more splatter idk
It was non flux core. Flux core throws a TON of slag. Not fun.
Thangk,s brother. 👍
How much would yall pay/charge to weld a diff like this? Assuming I bring it all cleaned up, bring my own plates, just heat it up and weld?
What about the C clamps on the axles
What's that intake for that's over your right arm? And don't you need to have the axles in the center section so it doesn't warp from the heat
B series honda, and no those gears wont warp.
not sure about all that heat into the bearings ?? I mist water over mine to slowly slowly suck the heat out and then do the other side , I dont use plates , I cut the pivot pin centre section out , pencil point them on all 4 ends , put back in and you have a see through centre , weld up the pencil points inside and outside of carrier and weld up the corners of the teeth , slowly slowly misting water to keep temp out of bngs . repeat to other side , dressing the weld down a bit to refit ring gear may be needed !! no drama -a flap wheel will do this just fine , now you have a diff if you break an axle just take both out and with no pin in the centre you tap the broken bit out with a long and strong enough rod , 40 years doing this with great success , but now you can buy mini for stuff all and full spools for a bit more , but for the DIY the above system works fine .
would .030 070s mig wire on a Lincoln 180amp welder and a preheated to say 400degrees Fahrenheit with a torch differential still in the carrier with say playdoh on the main ring and pinion welded at its max setting on 220v and plated on each side be sufficient to weld a differential like that?
Absolutely. It should be plenty. Just get it nice and hot on the preheat
How do you weld the gears the right way if your axle shafts are held in with C clips like a mopar 9.25 open diff..?
If you have c-clip axles you can only plate one side of the gears. It’s a bit weaker but it does the job.