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11. Thoughts on the Human Nature of Christ by Pastor Stephen Bohr - Last Generation Theology
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2021
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Thank you so much for this sermon Pastor Bohr. It has given me a greater understanding of how I can overcome sin through the help of the Holy Spirit and now I fully understand what it means that Christ was an example to us and that it is not only impossible but expected of us to enter into the Kingdom.
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Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, 100% human 100% God. Jesus love for His Father was so Great He considered it a delight to do His Father's will.
Where Adam failed Jesus overcame.
John 14:30.
A wonderful biblical presentation Pastor Stephen Bohr of Christ's true nature. Thank you, dear servant of the Lord.🕊
I have never fully understood this, until now!!! Praise God! Hallelujah, what a Saviour, is mine!
God bless you Pastor and your ministry.🙏🙏🙏
God bless you pastor Bohr
“Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grievous crime, and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God.” Testimony for the Church, N. 23, p.40.3.
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Is it possible that Jesus had the spiritual nature of Adam before the fall and the physical nature of Adam after the fall?
Explain deeply
Wow, that is called “arbitrary selectivism”.
“In ALL THINGS it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren” Hebrews 2:17. (His brethren were the people around him, at that time, who had the fallen moral nature)
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3SM 131.1 “Christ did not possess the same sinful, corrupt, fallen disloyalty we possess, for then He could not be a perfect offering” Note- Ellen White is saying that this is what we including herself currently possess.
MR 16- 181,182 “He had not taken on Him even the nature of angels, but humanity, perfectly identical with our own nature, EXCEPT WITHOUT THE TAINT OF SIN”. Note- Jesus did not take on the fallen spiritual nature of Adam, because it is tainted with sin.
PP 61.4 “They confessed that they had forfeited all right to the happy abode, but pledged themselves for the future to yield strict obedience to God. But they were told that their nature had become depraved by sin ; they had lessened their strength to resist evil and had opened the way for Satan to gain more ready access to them “
Question- Is this the nature that Christ received? A “nature depraved by sin” which would allow Satan access?
“Jesus began where Adam began” with an unfallen spiritual nature.
@@michaelbrutsche75 Thanks so much my brother in Jesus Christ.If it is possible,you may give me your email address for further questions
Kelley Herr-Roadruck but then couldn’t people say “well Jesus only got our fallen nature at 4 000 years, and WE have to deal with a fallen nature of 6000 years of degradation.” So really He isn’t the same as us no matter what.... That’s what people would say.
In my opinion, If Jesus would have received the spiritual nature of Adam after the fall, He would have received propensities toward sin, but Ellen White said that He did not have propensities towards sin. Again, this is my opinion at this point, I could be wrong
Listen to the presentation again. He had our fallen moral nature, but he was repulsed by the thought of sinning, so close was his connection to God the Father. To be tempted is not sin. To CHOOSE to give into the temptation is sin.
In a way you are correct. Jesus did not have the desire to sin, he was tempted from without and from within, as we are (in our fallen nature)! But he overcame those temptations through the power of God the Father. We have that same power. Jesus lived a sinless life, leaving us a “perfect example” of how to follow him in our sinless Christian walk.
@@kelleyherr-roadruck8937 Interesting thought. I’m not sure if anyone has propensities toward being tempted, I might say that we have propensities toward tempting ourselves, but not toward being tempted of the devil. Not totally sure, I’ll have to do some study on that one.
@@michaelbrutsche75 We are temped from without (Satan) and from within (our own inherited fallen moral nature).
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PP 61.4 - “They confessed that they had forfeited all right to the happy abode, but pledged themselves for the future to yield strict obedience to God. But they were told that their nature had become depraved by sin; they had lessened their strength to resist evil and had opened the way for Satan to gain more ready access to them.”
Question- Is this the “nature” that Christ received? A “nature depraved by sin which would allow Satan ready access?
3SM. 131.1- “Christ did not possess the same sinful, corrupt, fallen disloyalty we possess, for then He could not be a perfect offering. Note: Ellen White said that “we” including herself, currently possess a sinful, corrupt, fallen disloyalty of a nature, and that Christ did not possess that. Therefore He must have taken on the spiritual nature of Adam before the fall.
MR. 16: 181,182 - He had not taken on Him even the nature of angels, but humanity, perfectly identical with our own nature, EXCEPT WITHOUT THE TAINT OF SIN “. Note: All are born with a taint of sin , Jesus was born without a taint of sin ( without the fallen spiritual nature of Adam)
LGT contains a contradiction, on one hand the Law does not give eternal life, on the other LGT requires 100% obedience to the Law.
Conclusion is that LGT is not a Protestant Biblical teaching.
Who came first Jesus or the Protestant Biblical teaching?
Jesus says "“If you love Me, keep My commandments."
John 14:15 NKJV
He is talking about the 10 Commandments he gave to Moses, which in 1 John 3:4-24, the apostle, in great length, explains that sin is "transgression of the law". He says that whoever sins belong to Satan and give the example of Cain killing Abel to show us that the law he is talking about is the 10 Commandments.
1 John 2:1-6 - Are these verses a Biblical teaching or not? Specifically this one; "He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
1 John 2:6 KJV
Hebrews 2:17-18 are pretty clear for those willing to see, listen and obey.
Jesus can give us the power through the Holy Spirit to live like He did whe He walked on this earth, even though we have a fallen nature, through the power of Jesus we can overcome sin. Amen!
The only part of Jesus that was 100% human, was the pain he went through during his crus fixation. The 100% of the God particle to be obedient to the Fathers will, to be the one time redeemer for all man kind for ever more.