Great video have enjoyed your enthusiasm for going off road and testing your and your vehicle's capabilities. You all understand how to have some serious fun, thank you.
Po nekoj logici, za voźnju skloniju turizmu i "normalnoj" voźnji put i offroad, bolje 2.7, lepo ide, ima snage, manje troši. Za agresivniju voźnju na teźim i blatnjavijim terenima, bolje benzinac, ima i 4.7H.O, brźe vrti točkove i bolje prazni ozbiljnije krampone.
nema tačnih podataka, ali više nego duplo manje troše dizelaši, nekada benzinci mogu da doguraju i 3x pa i veću potrošnju... moj drugar je uspeo da sa 4.0 rednim benzincem, u teškom blatnjavom terenu sa mnogo gasa i šlajfovanja, potroši 50 litara benzina na 50km
I think the diffs should work with 33" tyres as well. Works fine on my WJ (quadra-drive) with 32" BFG MT tyres. Have you tried to replace the diff oil (with the separate mopar diff additive)
No, definitely not working - if QD was working properly, as it should with 33s, your WJ would have been unstoppable. (Not nice to see that you've been owned by a Pajero!)
Your Hydra Locks are gone on that WJ. I have an 04 4.7L QDrive with a 242hd t/case swapped in running 33's and mine work great. I do like that it appears you have a tank tuck, that is next on my hit list.
вот вам сдравая оценка. по разам вышли норм)). а дорогу пробивал патрол))) шутка. конечно во первых. у пыжа резина мощнее. во вторых у пыжа двиг мощнее бензинка а чероке на дохлом дизеле. в третих чероке первый шел в начале в соответствии следом идущему легче проходить. потом в дальнейшем паджеро первым шел чероке без труда проехал. итог битвы. дай чероке его 4л или 4,7 бензу на резине что у пыжа, то паджеро сдуется ненамного. на данный момент в данном видео силы на равных за исключением первых минут но там причины описаны выше. а если 5,7 чероке на мощнецкой резине, то пыж и рядом бы не стоял при всем уважении.
The guy in the Jeep doesn’t know how to use the 4x4 system the qudradrive offers. Its has 3 off road modules. Each module is approximately for certain terrain and different situations. Seems like the guy doesn’t know how to utilize the systems properly.
Quadradrive works only at road and soft offroad and with standard tires, not with 33 like this. Only full ARB air locker or something similar can work...
@@Knochensplitter Unfortunately, on the WJ of all my friends. driving Off Road a lot. that happened... the system is not running close as it should be, i.e. as it was at the start with the factory wheels
Идеального решения не существует, иногда более широкая шина лучше, иногда более узкая шина ... иногда агрессивная шина MT проседает (песок) и AT лучше проходит ...
for those who like WJ, we recommend from newer clips for example ruclips.net/video/QvLaYz10DEI/видео.html or on mud ruclips.net/video/cau_7bC4Ujw/видео.html and this slightly older video clip should not be missed ruclips.net/video/LpRFVQa5FAQ/видео.html
Vozilo je dobro, to je prvi Grand, oznake ZJ, ali bolji izbor je 4.0 benzinac, ako se ne gleda na troškove, nego na performanse. U sledećem Grandu WJ 1999-2005 bio je i 2.7CRD (doduše samo od 2002-2005) koji je najbolja varijanta snage i ekonomičnosti.
Top Đir a slusaj zanima me jedno,jutarnje paljenje kod ovog moga 2.5 td ,nece da upali ujutru nema sanse verga vergla ,i onda jedva upali,sta bi moglo da bude,i izbacuje plavi dim
Ne znam, nisam majstor/mehaničar... pa bolje da ti ništa ne kažem nego pogrešno... možda je od bezazlenog, tipa grejači, ali pošto ima i plavog dima... nešto sa diznama ili turbinom... ali opet i to može da bude da je preštellovanu na veću snagu uz dim, pa može da se vrati... a može da bude i najgore, da je motor bio pregrevan i slično i da je na izdisaju, th za generalku... Mora to pravi majstor da pogleda...
That and the Pajero is gasoline (petrol), while the Jeep is running that awful diesel engine (where the 4.0L inline is more powerful, and the V8 would have had no issues running these trails.)
it IS QD. look at badge at 1:58. that being said it could be in shit condition. Clearly the front lsd isnt strong enough to move the tyre at 5:00, the question is if its due to the limits of system itself or shit maintenance. Considering the good condition of the car i would say the former
In different situations, some are better, but both vehicles are solid. The Pajero has a petrol engine and where higher revs are better, it has the advantage. On the other hand the Grand Cherokee WJ 2.7CRD has a quadra drive that sometimes helps well.
par mojih prijatelja je uzelo te Maxxis protekt, u startu su bile OK većini, nekima su tresle na asfaltu, nekima su vremenom počeli da otpadaju kramponi... tako da... kod protekta bilo kog nemaš garanciju... u startu odlične, kopaju ko lude, ali eto ima i negativnih primera, kako se kome zalomilo...
On the contrary, this is a real situation, real vehicles. Would you like an "vs" of two identical vehicles, that the vehicles differ only in color, and that they are driven by one driver? Quadradrive has a problem with bigger tires, it's a reality, it's not a fake.
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Very impressive performance by the Maxxix tires!
Which type/model is it under the Pajero?
Do you guys offer the WJ bumpers for purchase?
If you have the 2.7 CRD, you must be familiar with the gearbox going into limp mode when the ABS sensors are not working after offroading?
Great video have enjoyed your enthusiasm for going off road and testing your and your vehicle's capabilities. You all understand how to have some serious fun, thank you.
thnx, we love off road, nature,...
From which manufacturer are Jeep wj’s bumpers? Amazing video!
Nice bumpers on WJ, where can i get one like that, I need front, for now ;)
Mati Lacki bumpers are custom made by me and my friend.
Which rear bumper is that on the WJ? I need one!
This is custom one.
that Pajero thou 😀killing it
How is the front axle getting along running those 33" tyres?
works :) but this is maximum size... and quadra drive have problem with 33"
Planing on buying jeep grand cherokee wj 2003, should i get 2.7crd diesel or 4.0i petrol
Po nekoj logici, za voźnju skloniju turizmu i "normalnoj" voźnji put i offroad, bolje 2.7, lepo ide, ima snage, manje troši. Za agresivniju voźnju na teźim i blatnjavijim terenima, bolje benzinac, ima i 4.7H.O, brźe vrti točkove i bolje prazni ozbiljnije krampone.
Where i can buy this Pajero headlights?
China :) AliExpress :)
Pajero truly is the king of Offroading. I love it over my 2012 LC Toyota.
The Pajero proved to be very good for this type of Off Road driving. With good tires, you can do a lot.
I have a 2007 Toyota Hilux.
@@TopDjir Toyota Hilux is another beast mate.
does the cherokee have a diesel engine?if yes what kind?
kamal zeid yes, there are two versions. One with the the awful Italian 3.1 diesel and the much better mercedes 2.7 CRD
this WJ is 2.7CRD 163HP
what s the lift kit on the wj?
those days some 3-4" home made :)
The pajero has a suspension lift, or is standard height? Super snowtrip however 🤩
Standard, little lifted but without suspension lift :)
@@TopDjir thanks
That is why I have a Pajero!
Has it ever occurred to you that the guy that's driving the Jeep doesn't know how to us the 4x4 system probably.
U ovim teskim uslovima ovaj v6 je realno prelazio prepreke bez problema,e sad zanima me potrosnja goriva izmenju v6 i tdi motora u ovakvim uslovima?
nema tačnih podataka, ali više nego duplo manje troše dizelaši, nekada benzinci mogu da doguraju i 3x pa i veću potrošnju... moj drugar je uspeo da sa 4.0 rednim benzincem, u teškom blatnjavom terenu sa mnogo gasa i šlajfovanja, potroši 50 litara benzina na 50km
I have wj 6v 4.0l from 2009 and i love this car
Что за резина на белом паджеро?
Алексей Лосев ты дурак? В начале же было написано
Не тыкайте
Nice video as always! P.S. The Grand Cherokee WG have broken quadradrive differentials.. it should lock :)
No, not broken, just do not work with 33" tires :(
+Top Đir Oh, that's unfortunate! I have broke mime when I was pulling a truck on asphalt :/ €1000 and works like new :D
I think the diffs should work with 33" tyres as well. Works fine on my WJ (quadra-drive) with 32" BFG MT tyres. Have you tried to replace the diff oil (with the separate mopar diff additive)
MustAccord
My quadradrive on WJ works with 32's too😀
No, definitely not working - if QD was working properly, as it should with 33s, your WJ would have been unstoppable. (Not nice to see that you've been owned by a Pajero!)
Your Hydra Locks are gone on that WJ. I have an 04 4.7L QDrive with a 242hd t/case swapped in running 33's and mine work great. I do like that it appears you have a tank tuck, that is next on my hit list.
вот вам сдравая оценка.
по разам вышли норм)). а дорогу пробивал патрол))) шутка.
конечно во первых. у пыжа резина мощнее. во вторых у пыжа двиг мощнее бензинка а чероке на дохлом дизеле. в третих чероке первый шел в начале в соответствии следом идущему легче проходить. потом в дальнейшем паджеро первым шел чероке без труда проехал.
итог битвы. дай чероке его 4л или 4,7 бензу на резине что у пыжа, то паджеро сдуется ненамного. на данный момент в данном видео силы на равных за исключением первых минут но там причины описаны выше. а если 5,7 чероке на мощнецкой резине, то пыж и рядом бы не стоял при всем уважении.
Ты ещё забыл добавить что Паджеро на механике а Чирокез на автомате
The guy in the Jeep doesn’t know how to use the 4x4 system the qudradrive offers. Its has 3 off road modules. Each module is approximately for certain terrain and different situations. Seems like the guy doesn’t know how to utilize the systems properly.
Quadradrive works only at road and soft offroad and with standard tires, not with 33 like this. Only full ARB air locker or something similar can work...
@@TopDjir That is not true.
@@Knochensplitter Unfortunately, on the WJ of all my friends. driving Off Road a lot. that happened... the system is not running close as it should be, i.e. as it was at the start with the factory wheels
Lepo, voleo bih nekad da prisustujem ovakvom dogadjajima, ali ne znam gde ima to kod nas..
PAJERO HAS TALL SKINNY TIRES LIKE LAND ROVER CAMEL SERIES RIGS....THAT IS WHY IS BETTER.
Such videos from friends driving and with different vehicles and differently equipped vehicles, are used to compare the characteristics.
The LSD-s on the WJ don't work, my WJ doesn't have this kind of problems in terrain.
What is the size of your tires? I've heard that with bigger tires, it's 33" here, LSD starts to slip...
У Чероки проставки и походу расширение колеи не всегда благо.
Идеального решения не существует, иногда более широкая шина лучше, иногда более узкая шина ... иногда агрессивная шина MT проседает (песок) и AT лучше проходит ...
@@TopDjir я про расстояние между колесами на одной оси. Паджеро Уже и идет по колее, а Джип шире колеи и ему надо пробивать дорогу, это труднее.
extra ste
hvala :)
wj 3,1 ?
2.7crd
EL GANADOR ES MITSUBISHI!! THE WINNER IS MITSUBISHI!!
That Pajero is disappearing into the woods.
wj is the monster of offroad
for those who like WJ, we recommend from newer clips for example
ruclips.net/video/QvLaYz10DEI/видео.html
or on mud
ruclips.net/video/cau_7bC4Ujw/видео.html
and this slightly older video clip should not be missed
ruclips.net/video/LpRFVQa5FAQ/видео.html
Mitsubishi super select
Sta mislite o dzipu ,grand cheroke 2.5 td ,dizel 96 godiste,iskustva neka mozda
Vozilo je dobro, to je prvi Grand, oznake ZJ, ali bolji izbor je 4.0 benzinac, ako se ne gleda na troškove, nego na performanse. U sledećem Grandu WJ 1999-2005 bio je i 2.7CRD (doduše samo od 2002-2005) koji je najbolja varijanta snage i ekonomičnosti.
Top Đir a slusaj zanima me jedno,jutarnje paljenje kod ovog moga 2.5 td ,nece da upali ujutru nema sanse verga vergla ,i onda jedva upali,sta bi moglo da bude,i izbacuje plavi dim
Ne znam, nisam majstor/mehaničar... pa bolje da ti ništa ne kažem nego pogrešno... možda je od bezazlenog, tipa grejači, ali pošto ima i plavog dima... nešto sa diznama ili turbinom... ali opet i to može da bude da je preštellovanu na veću snagu uz dim, pa može da se vrati... a može da bude i najgore, da je motor bio pregrevan i slično i da je na izdisaju, th za generalku... Mora to pravi majstor da pogleda...
Top Đir vazi,hvala u svakom slucaju
wj is the best
***
WJ правильный с 4,0 и 231-й раздаткой, а с мерседесовской начинкой далеко не уедешь
правильный WJ - это 4,7 и 242 HD раздатка
Это совсем правильный)
4-литровые мы (ездуны на 4,7) ласково называем "малолитражки")))))))))))
У меня 5,4))) Но абзывать не буду, уважаю Джипы)))
Open differentials on the Jeep. 🤷🏻♂️
clearly the Jeep has open diffs. How is this any kind of comparison??
Exactly - if it was quadra drive version, with working vari-locks in both axles, it wouldn't stop even once :)
That and the Pajero is gasoline (petrol), while the Jeep is running that awful diesel engine (where the 4.0L inline is more powerful, and the V8 would have had no issues running these trails.)
Pajero too :)
it IS QD. look at badge at 1:58. that being said it could be in shit condition. Clearly the front lsd isnt strong enough to move the tyre at 5:00, the question is if its due to the limits of system itself or shit maintenance. Considering the good condition of the car i would say the former
@Randal @@RandalLovelace the 2.7 is not awful 163 HP and 400 NM
Better Mitsubishi
In different situations, some are better, but both vehicles are solid. The Pajero has a petrol engine and where higher revs are better, it has the advantage. On the other hand the Grand Cherokee WJ 2.7CRD has a quadra drive that sometimes helps well.
Джип топ
Той е страхотен, но Pajero също се справя добре.
Opet mi grand lose ide ovdje :) samo je ovi grand cheroke,al ne mogu da vjerujem da je pajero bolji od granda?
gume, samo gume u ovom slučaju.... Pajero nove Maxxis protekt, a Grand KM2 stare.... ali nije u svim situacijama Pajero bio bolji :)
Top Đir to sam i htio da kazem
Jer vidim kliza zestoko..
Jesu dobro nove protektne za ovs stvari?
par mojih prijatelja je uzelo te Maxxis protekt, u startu su bile OK većini, nekima su tresle na asfaltu, nekima su vremenom počeli da otpadaju kramponi... tako da... kod protekta bilo kog nemaš garanciju... u startu odlične, kopaju ko lude, ali eto ima i negativnih primera, kako se kome zalomilo...
fake.. various tires,drivers, motors,i think jeep quadradrive off
On the contrary, this is a real situation, real vehicles. Would you like an "vs" of two identical vehicles, that the vehicles differ only in color, and that they are driven by one driver?
Quadradrive has a problem with bigger tires, it's a reality, it's not a fake.
Ланд
100
Poorly tuned Jeep badly driven
Quadra drive is not working well, the vehicle has been driven a lot off-road.
Diesel sucks :) need a V8
if we are not looking at the finances, you are absolutely right :)