@an1s_ isn't it crazy I forgot I was going to but you reminded me in the span of 6 minutes from when I said it but worry not I don't feel like watching it anymore I'm used to my impulses by now
@@BenganGamerAoE in Pure Fiction seems to be very different than AoE in MoC. The trash mobs are a lot less tanky so Himeko can actually capitalize on being able to break consistently. Likewise with herta. Because trash mobs are a lot less tanky, it’s very easy for her to trigger her follow up attack. Tier lists like Prydwen do specifically state that their tier lists are based off of MoC performance. With pure fiction now being a second endgame mode, either expect a separate tier list for Pure Fiction with new conditions, or an actual change to Himeko’s current standing. I expect the former. Pure Fiction seems to have completely different standards for clearing. Making a tier list that ranks characters based on their performance for both just seems a bit too nuanced.
at 4:41 that one brave farmer showing up to stand down against the mightiness of Himeko made me laugh more then it should have. Cant wait for this to go up on EU
Maybe now is the right moment to go back 5 months when Dreamy made a post talking about erudition characthers and said "my channel wich always promoted erudition characters since day one". Amazing video Dreamy, doing a great job in every game you played.
It was do satisfying to see you spamming Argenti's Ulti and Herta's follow ups while the Yukong buff was still working Time to build Herta and Himeko I gueess
A few months ago, my friend said it felt kinda bad to get Himeko as our starter banner 5*. He had to use his panic-built Himeko to help clear this and I got to faceroll it with my already built but still scuffed Himeko and Herta lmao.
@@BenganGamerI’ve actually seen videos of Herta and Himeko loops in Pure Fiction, however you need Ruan Mei, her weakness break efficiency buff just allows Herta to break ice weak enemies in one follow up and it’s pretty satisfying to watch
@@samkelly5045 well obviously but in fight 2 in this pure fiction stage, an enemy with ice weakness is like every 1/10 or something, which is why I said I doubt herta would be good in fight 2 here, everyone knows Herta and Himeko is a god combo if played on a stage with their respective element weaknesses
I actually think himeko+herta side 1 and argenti side 2 might be more efficient, argenti doesn’t really rely on type weakness and should still repeatedly one-shot enemies.
En rope is such a key part of this. I’m so glad you mentioned it in your guide cause every other herta guide has said to use an attack rope. So glad I built my herta early thx for the free jades
Herta was using an ATK rope here actually but hey, you could still use that on someone else. ER rope is very valuable for this mode due to the massive amount of energy from kills getting further increased by ER. My Argenti is wearing ER rope.
I like people be like 'oh Argenti ult1 is useless why bother to have it' and situations like these come out which make you want to spam it even more than the full ult lol.
I remember that you posted your thoughts about Erudition units being great but unfortunately, there were still misconceptions and doomposts around every unit except QQ (I am a firm believer that Himeko and JY are great). Now, how the turn has tabled! Btw nice showcase, miss Dreamy!
@@ZytenEspada The funny thing is that there will be people who think that all Erudition units, except QQ and Argenti, are only viable in PF. Kinda frustrating tbh 🙄
@tagihanbill494 oh yeah the metaslaves who follow Prydwen tierlist to a tee. For sure, meanwhile Himeko and JY have been clearing MoC for me without issue. Lol skill issue at its finest. Dreamy is the lone fact that that's a load of bull.
LOL what do you mean. Even MOC, Erudition were already owning! There are recently 0-cycles of MOC12 with Argenti and Qingque, no? I haven't had the time to do it myself yet though.
@@LisaraScarlet I know, your guides are the ones that teached me how to beat MoC with erudition in the first place. I'm just saying is good to see some love for Himeko
I love that this brought up a bunch of new semi new strats and characters Hímeko asta and herta have all been brought ip a tier because of pure fiction While argenti gets to spam ult instead of waiting for his 2nd form. And erudition as a path gets to shine after being looked down on
Imagine if the story mode has an Endless Horde mode where the Trailblazer has to Survive for a number of Waves before being Rescued and they give you a Trail Himeko because she's the only thing to Save you Butt. 😭
Ehh... She was always strong just hard to use well. Since a lot of units that are strong in pure fiction make good use of out of turn damage (ultimates, follow ups, and counters) it makes sense that it becomes a lot easier to align the big damage inside of her buff window.
Discovering your channel was probably the best move I've made for my HSR account 😂 Congratz on the clear. Can't even 3 stars the first one as i only have one AoE character lmao. Looking forward to more uploads ❤
Yeaa they could make it harder in turn of getting rid of that cause like id be more fun if there’ll be sacrifice to die in the moc rather than trying to get a annoying perfect run with no deaths
I actually want to see if defeating the boss is actually possible 🗿and here you are 🙌. I don't have enough resources to level up Herta 😭(yet), and looks like Argenti makes this game mode easy mode.
On my main account since I have no Argenti, I really struggled on first part. With Herta Blade Xueyi and Pela (Herta and Xueyi half ass build, I had no one else who might have chip in on damage properly) So I had to pull though on 2nd half, after couple of retries I came up with following party Tingyun, RM, Himeko and General. Hypercarry Himeko didn't really worked for me, so I decided to go with general breaking shields, so Himeko really pulled though here. On account where I have Argenti on the other hand stage 4 was a breeze, took me 2 retries, DHIL worked too as usual. Good showcase. I really think that couple Erudition/Destruction characters is a way to go, so supports like Asta and RM are really good basically those who have aoe buffs. Pela on the other hand is not really good here, only shield breaking, I get it now.
I still need to build my herta and himeko but I haven't totally neglected them. I did level th em up to 70 and got their traces at to like level 5 or so because I knew that if ever a time came where they would be useful, I'd want to use them just cuz they're too effing fun, and I also want to enjoy an elation run in SU at some point.
Pure fiction so far feels easier than MoC (as of now i can't clear moc12 at all, partially cuz i don't have DHIL or Jingliu, and only 1 limited sustain, also mid relics). But pure fiction i cleared it all first try for 68k 1 stage : Argenti e0s0 , Tingyun e3, bronya e0s1, fu xuan e1s0 2 stage: Himeko e0s1, Kafka e1s1, Ruan mei e0s1, and Fire MC with moment of victory and dps relics (cuz game trolled me with way too many def+double crit pieces, so i decided why not sp positive sub dps Fire MC?)
The nice thing is people can’t complain about “Bronya is not F2P” anymore. Most people likely have her from a lost 50/50, or the standard banner selector.
Thank goodness, I thought it was just me who wasn’t able to 40,000 clear 2nd half first try. I am sure you will find some way to 0-cycle the 2nd half as I sure can’t, btw nice video as usual.
If you would’ve told a theory crafter anytime from patch 1.0 to 1.5 that herta and Himeko were gonna be meta for an important game mode in the future they might’ve collapsed on their knees. On a real note I hope “those” tier list makers don’t just throw their performance aside just cause “their calculations don’t change”
what's your opinion on Himeko's break? Mine has 50% crit, 130% critdmg, 85% break, 125 SPD and 2.9k ATK. Is that enough? :D (4pc Ashblazing Grand Duke, 2pc Firmament Frontline Glamoth) I love your videos btw.
Always try to aim for almost 90% CRIT. I know my Himeko doesn't have it too but I am trying. Himeko's break is great especially if with Ruan Mei, Fire's break upfront damage has always been very high.
5:55 is this a mistake or intentional? You could have used Himeko's ult at the end of her turn instead of at the beginning of Ruan Mei's turn to have Ruan Mei's buff still apply to Himeko. You also could have used himeko ult at the end of Ruan Mei's turn. Yet you chose to use Himeko ult before Ruan Mei's skill. Notably, your "big mistake" at 6:54 wouldn't have happened because svarog would have already been broken by then due to the weakness break efficiency Ruan Mei could have give Himeko at 5:55
Really depends on how you use her. If you are rotating with her, she needs decent speed. If you are fast cycling, then she doesn't need to move that much.
dreamy, have you done a budget moc video with only 4 star character to help f2p players at least just to pass every moc? thanks im only asking because i been browsing your video and i couldnt find it specifically.
I used to especially when I still wasn't a HoyoCreator so my characters had low eidolons and stuff. Now, I should be able to do 4-star clears but people might just nitpick how all of my 4-stars are E6. You might be mistaking me for Lily Aquina.
I have neither Bronya, nor Ruan Mei, my second team can ALMOST clear Wave 3 anyway.... is it worth trying to build Himeko if I don't have her supports?
With how much Argenti spins he might as well be an honorary Kuru Kuru member
Erudition mains rise up
@@an1s_it's been so long since I watched that now I want to
@an1s_ isn't it crazy I forgot I was going to but you reminded me in the span of 6 minutes from when I said it but worry not I don't feel like watching it anymore I'm used to my impulses by now
L
Erudition mains win this patch. I have all the 5* ones built 😊
yeah, for one game mode
Himeko its your time to shine.
From "C" tier all the way up to S we believe.
I mean her value in the game will increase, her calculations wont really change though so she will still be an A tier AOE unit
That will only be for aoe damage but hey moving up the tier list is still a W
@@BenganGamerAoE in Pure Fiction seems to be very different than AoE in MoC. The trash mobs are a lot less tanky so Himeko can actually capitalize on being able to break consistently. Likewise with herta. Because trash mobs are a lot less tanky, it’s very easy for her to trigger her follow up attack. Tier lists like Prydwen do specifically state that their tier lists are based off of MoC performance. With pure fiction now being a second endgame mode, either expect a separate tier list for Pure Fiction with new conditions, or an actual change to Himeko’s current standing. I expect the former. Pure Fiction seems to have completely different standards for clearing. Making a tier list that ranks characters based on their performance for both just seems a bit too nuanced.
She was already good, and if anything, PF with the current buff is far more favourable to Argenti.
@@TheWindsofWonder True, should be a separate tier list because Hunt is like F tier in here
You didn't have to destroy me too adding Nightglow to the 2nd half.
Great video.
LOL
Exactly what I came to comment as well.
Had the same thought xD
The trauma remains, I allways tear up hearing the song
at 4:41 that one brave farmer showing up to stand down against the mightiness of Himeko made me laugh more then it should have. Cant wait for this to go up on EU
I don’t think they’re a farmer but I get it bc the shovel lol
This truly was Kashimo's Jujutsu Kaisen
"Alright lets see who this-"
"fuck"
LMAO
The guy was like "Ohh shiiiiiiiiiii I overslept!!!!"
*the fact his party has been wiped sets in*
"Ohh no..." *gets pummeled by Himeko's case* LMAO
dreamy on a scale from 1-10 how erudition pilled are you feeling rn
9/11 EVERYTHING IS EXPLODING LIKE THE TOWE--
@@LisaraScarlet😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@LisaraScarletay yo lmao 😆💀
@@LisaraScarlet ayooo hold up
Maybe now is the right moment to go back 5 months when Dreamy made a post talking about erudition characthers and said "my channel wich always promoted erudition characters since day one". Amazing video Dreamy, doing a great job in every game you played.
TRUE ERUDITION BROS, TRUE! FAX!
You can say this mode is very *dreamy* for erudition fans
It was do satisfying to see you spamming Argenti's Ulti and Herta's follow ups while the Yukong buff was still working
Time to build Herta and Himeko I gueess
Bro, How can I enjoy the Himeko gameplay if I'm crying?
@@LisaraScarletyou monster 😂
A few months ago, my friend said it felt kinda bad to get Himeko as our starter banner 5*.
He had to use his panic-built Himeko to help clear this and I got to faceroll it with my already built but still scuffed Himeko and Herta lmao.
Thank god for this channel that I built Herta. She's literally made for this mode lmao
2:59 the sync is just BEAUTIFUL
This video is truly a full dreamy special
Hoshiboshi, Kuru Kuru, Himeko
Im gonna love this mode
When this was announced my friends kept saying ,,You can finally be happy with being a Herta main”
My only thought was ,,But I was already happy tho”
Probably using Himeko+Herta can get a faster cleaning on side 2
I'll try later.
I highly doubt that as Herta wont be breaking almost anything
@@BenganGamerI’ve actually seen videos of Herta and Himeko loops in Pure Fiction, however you need Ruan Mei, her weakness break efficiency buff just allows Herta to break ice weak enemies in one follow up and it’s pretty satisfying to watch
@@samkelly5045 well obviously but in fight 2 in this pure fiction stage, an enemy with ice weakness is like every 1/10 or something, which is why I said I doubt herta would be good in fight 2 here, everyone knows Herta and Himeko is a god combo if played on a stage with their respective element weaknesses
I actually think himeko+herta side 1 and argenti side 2 might be more efficient, argenti doesn’t really rely on type weakness and should still repeatedly one-shot enemies.
Playing Nightglow during the Himeko part was so uncalled for 😭
Seeing Himeko and Herta's follow up attack is so satisfying
Nightglow and Moon Halo is so beautiful 😢
En rope is such a key part of this. I’m so glad you mentioned it in your guide cause every other herta guide has said to use an attack rope.
So glad I built my herta early thx for the free jades
Herta was using an ATK rope here actually but hey, you could still use that on someone else. ER rope is very valuable for this mode due to the massive amount of energy from kills getting further increased by ER. My Argenti is wearing ER rope.
I like people be like 'oh Argenti ult1 is useless why bother to have it' and situations like these come out which make you want to spam it even more than the full ult lol.
I remember that you posted your thoughts about Erudition units being great but unfortunately, there were still misconceptions and doomposts around every unit except QQ (I am a firm believer that Himeko and JY are great). Now, how the turn has tabled!
Btw nice showcase, miss Dreamy!
Always have been.
@@ZytenEspada The funny thing is that there will be people who think that all Erudition units, except QQ and Argenti, are only viable in PF. Kinda frustrating tbh 🙄
@tagihanbill494 oh yeah the metaslaves who follow Prydwen tierlist to a tee. For sure, meanwhile Himeko and JY have been clearing MoC for me without issue. Lol skill issue at its finest. Dreamy is the lone fact that that's a load of bull.
2nd half kinda hard to watch with all these "sweat" in my eyes
THIS SONG and himeko with bronya at the second half destroyed me
The queen of erudition does it again.
Good to see hoyo added a mode for dreamy
LOL what do you mean. Even MOC, Erudition were already owning! There are recently 0-cycles of MOC12 with Argenti and Qingque, no? I haven't had the time to do it myself yet though.
@@LisaraScarlet I know, your guides are the ones that teached me how to beat MoC with erudition in the first place. I'm just saying is good to see some love for Himeko
The Final Lesson theme is makeing me cry, even if this is a different universe..
We'll never let her go this time!
my erudition family WE RISE
I love that this brought up a bunch of new semi new strats and characters
Hímeko asta and herta have all been brought ip a tier because of pure fiction
While argenti gets to spam ult instead of waiting for his 2nd form.
And erudition as a path gets to shine after being looked down on
Imagine if the story mode has an Endless Horde mode where the Trailblazer has to Survive for a number of Waves before being Rescued and they give you a Trail Himeko because she's the only thing to Save you Butt. 😭
march, gepard, fire mc, dps/healer fu xuan
@@TiaNeedsSleep I should have added for Free Players who haven't rolled those 5 stars.
*One must imagine Kiana happy.*
not the himeko music 🎶 😢
NGL, that music hit on Argenti's first ult..... very satisfying! Good edit.
The most surprising thing here is Yukong making a comeback with Pure Fiction.
Ehh... She was always strong just hard to use well. Since a lot of units that are strong in pure fiction make good use of out of turn damage (ultimates, follow ups, and counters) it makes sense that it becomes a lot easier to align the big damage inside of her buff window.
A comeback ? 🤨 Yukong is S tier in MoC.
@@t2rs603 yukong is only usable at e6
@@t2rs603People just don’t like speed-tuning or something idk 😖
since when was Yukong bad?
That Argenti Kurukuru combo, so satisfying.
I just finished story 2, holy moly Herta killed enemies so fast and easily got high score
Looks Like herta, Himeko teams will be an S tier Pure fiction pick
Got 3* with JL and IL+Clara in every stage
Destruction just built different 🥴😏
I 3* MoC 12 with erudition what are u on?
nah the music choice with himeko on the screen, i couldn't get a particular scene out of my head 😭
Time to build my lvl1 himeko e2 s1..... Damn this vid tempting me.
Discovering your channel was probably the best move I've made for my HSR account 😂
Congratz on the clear. Can't even 3 stars the first one as i only have one AoE character lmao.
Looking forward to more uploads ❤
Love seeing another good use of 3 star light cone! And it’s actually good for duo dps team comp
They said I was mad when I hit 300 standard pulls and chose to E3 Himeko and… yeah they were probably right, but I have no regrets.
Good thing you technically don't need to finish the round to get the 60k requirement. If only MoC would remove the "No Downed Characters" thing...
Yeaa they could make it harder in turn of getting rid of that cause like id be more fun if there’ll be sacrifice to die in the moc rather than trying to get a annoying perfect run with no deaths
I actually want to see if defeating the boss is actually possible 🗿and here you are 🙌. I don't have enough resources to level up Herta 😭(yet), and looks like Argenti makes this game mode easy mode.
I was wondering how the grand duke set fairs on Herta compared to the ice set. Would love the input of the Herta Master
Grand Duke is a slight upgrade for Herta specifically in PF but outside of PF, Ice set is still better overall.
Pure fiction is really fun. I used my level 69 himeko and was just 5000 points short of 3*'ing the last stage.
On my main account since I have no Argenti, I really struggled on first part. With Herta Blade Xueyi and Pela (Herta and Xueyi half ass build, I had no one else who might have chip in on damage properly) So I had to pull though on 2nd half, after couple of retries I came up with following party Tingyun, RM, Himeko and General. Hypercarry Himeko didn't really worked for me, so I decided to go with general breaking shields, so Himeko really pulled though here. On account where I have Argenti on the other hand stage 4 was a breeze, took me 2 retries, DHIL worked too as usual. Good showcase. I really think that couple Erudition/Destruction characters is a way to go, so supports like Asta and RM are really good basically those who have aoe buffs. Pela on the other hand is not really good here, only shield breaking, I get it now.
I still need to build my herta and himeko but I haven't totally neglected them. I did level th em up to 70 and got their traces at to like level 5 or so because I knew that if ever a time came where they would be useful, I'd want to use them just cuz they're too effing fun, and I also want to enjoy an elation run in SU at some point.
Argenti is ulting like its Simulated Universe xD
ER Rope Argenti Gang!
Dayum, what a terrible day to rain
Great song choice for himeko.
This motivated me to build granny herta
I just realized the song that was playing in the background
daaaaaamn.
this is so amazing.
Never gonna let you go while playing Himeko that feels personal
ERUDITION WAS NEVER DEAD
It’s kinda funny since Argenti himself spins like Herta lmao, and him ulting while spinning followed by spinning Kururin made it hilarious
Now i know which standard 5 star that i should pick rn. 15 pulls away from the selector ✊️
Argenti mains rise🔥
this is peak music choice for peak fiction
Ironic how when we first started the game everyone was hating on erudition
I never did, erudition chars can clear any content just fine if u build them right. those haters are just a bunch of "meta slaves" 😂
Not as hard as I expected
I can clear fullstar comfortably using 1st half Argenti hyper and 2nd half Serval hyper
NEVER LET YOU GO
And they called me a mad man for choosing himeko and building herta
Pure fiction so far feels easier than MoC (as of now i can't clear moc12 at all, partially cuz i don't have DHIL or Jingliu, and only 1 limited sustain, also mid relics).
But pure fiction i cleared it all first try for 68k
1 stage : Argenti e0s0 , Tingyun e3, bronya e0s1, fu xuan e1s0
2 stage: Himeko e0s1, Kafka e1s1, Ruan mei e0s1, and Fire MC with moment of victory and dps relics (cuz game trolled me with way too many def+double crit pieces, so i decided why not sp positive sub dps Fire MC?)
The nice thing is people can’t complain about “Bronya is not F2P” anymore.
Most people likely have her from a lost 50/50, or the standard banner selector.
I see Herta uses Himeko's lightcone and Himeko uses JingYuan's lightcone, I know Jingyuan's kit is the problem, nothing else :)
Man, if only you basic attack before Svarog popped so you can stack the follow-up 😢
Me looking at Argenti like "you'd be nice to have" but ig JY, Herta and Himeko it is.
Thank goodness, I thought it was just me who wasn’t able to 40,000 clear 2nd half first try. I am sure you will find some way to 0-cycle the 2nd half as I sure can’t, btw nice video as usual.
Kuru kuru heaven mode indeed!
Kurukuru is love, Kururin is life.
Uh!
Meanwhile in Eridition empire:
*Your Majesty, I am pleased to inform you that your crown is currently being polished to perfection*
Himeko and Argenti are clear winners in this mode. Herta too ❤
If the leaks on Harmony Trailblazer are true. They will DOMINATE this mode.
Has it changed since earlier?
They will dominate MoC too.
you really love to make people remember with that himeko ost huh
Reminder that we'll never let her go this time >:)
Dreamy are you going to make a guide for this game mode?
Just use AOE attack, nothing much to it.
Probably not. I think Guoba already has one.
This is where Erudition class actually shine :DDDD
4:00 Himeko back from the dead🎉
I might actually get Himeko from my select 5 star. It was between Gepard and Himeko and I think himeko just won by a landslide.e
Very nice score, sir/ma'am..... Nearly full marks. I got only about 63k. Finally an event that is Erudition squad's playground.
If you would’ve told a theory crafter anytime from patch 1.0 to 1.5 that herta and Himeko were gonna be meta for an important game mode in the future they might’ve collapsed on their knees.
On a real note I hope “those” tier list makers don’t just throw their performance aside just cause “their calculations don’t change”
It's funny because, I predicted how Erudition will become meta around 5 months ago in a community post you can still see today if you dig it.
6:53 made me really sad, i thought i was finally gonna see the legendary himeko double :(
Nice run but holy fk you didn't have to have to choose these songs. I had to mute because I'd be crying seeing Himeko 😭
what's your opinion on Himeko's break? Mine has 50% crit, 130% critdmg, 85% break, 125 SPD and 2.9k ATK. Is that enough? :D (4pc Ashblazing Grand Duke, 2pc Firmament Frontline Glamoth)
I love your videos btw.
Always try to aim for almost 90% CRIT. I know my Himeko doesn't have it too but I am trying. Himeko's break is great especially if with Ruan Mei, Fire's break upfront damage has always been very high.
5:55 is this a mistake or intentional? You could have used Himeko's ult at the end of her turn instead of at the beginning of Ruan Mei's turn to have Ruan Mei's buff still apply to Himeko. You also could have used himeko ult at the end of Ruan Mei's turn. Yet you chose to use Himeko ult before Ruan Mei's skill.
Notably, your "big mistake" at 6:54 wouldn't have happened because svarog would have already been broken by then due to the weakness break efficiency Ruan Mei could have give Himeko at 5:55
There are plenty mistakes yea but I didn't really mind correcting any of it, it's just a "First Look" into the new mode.
RETURN of the KURU KURUUU !!!
Hunt just can't stop taking Ls
I see many proc of Herta follow-ups, is it worth to change the ice set to the follow-up relic set just for pure fiction?
With Yukong, it could be worth for a slight damage increase but in majority of cases, 4pc Hunter would still be better on a Slow Herta.
this is the beginning of a new era...
im going to need new updated builds guides for all the aoe characters that people thought were trash lol
BEHOLD THE POWER OF ERUDITION!
I'm one Eidolon away from E6 Yukong and my Argenti will be happy
Dreamy forgor about Reverse so I'm here🫠🥹
So much stuff going on in HSR atm so I don't have much time for R1999.
I saw your Ruan Mei is a bit slow. Mine has 136 spd with sig LC, is that a good thing or should I change her to a slow spd?
Really depends on how you use her. If you are rotating with her, she needs decent speed. If you are fast cycling, then she doesn't need to move that much.
THE MUSIC CHOICE FOR HIMEKO
dreamy, have you done a budget moc video with only 4 star character to help f2p players at least just to pass every moc? thanks im only asking because i been browsing your video and i couldnt find it specifically.
I used to especially when I still wasn't a HoyoCreator so my characters had low eidolons and stuff. Now, I should be able to do 4-star clears but people might just nitpick how all of my 4-stars are E6. You might be mistaking me for Lily Aquina.
@@LisaraScarlet understandable, thanks for the reply and good luck for you :)
I have neither Bronya, nor Ruan Mei, my second team can ALMOST clear Wave 3 anyway.... is it worth trying to build Himeko if I don't have her supports?
Himeko paired with Asta already gives her a significant boost. So yea, if you got some spare resources.
@@LisaraScarlet I'll think about it, but for now the Herta strat already got me to 60K points, so thanks^^
2nd half ruanmei himeko serval asta. fast clear tried it already
Now this is spin to win strategy