Hi Joe. A B and C are rotational axes that relate to X Y and Z. A rotates about X, B rotates about Y and C rotates about Z. There are other 3 letter groups for CNC that you may be familiar with and I am led to believe that they all correspond in a similar manner. I J K for instance relate to arc points and centres for X Y and Z in turn. Also U V W which are secondary linear axes for X Y and Z. Think of a Bridgeport, you have the Z axis that the knee travels along and you also have the quill which is a secondary linear axis.
Hi. Yes did a 10 week cnc course at the training school but then other than my time in the tool room everything has been cnc. Been on cnc grinding machines for the last 2 years.
The "C" Axis is a control that allows for indexing the part around the Z axis. In the Cartesian coordinates you have X-Y-Z and A-B-C where A rotates along the X Axis, B rotates align the Y axis and C rotates along the Z axis.
Joe as usual is very knowledgeable about what he speaks and he is very articulate. He says things in a manner in which you not only learn but want to listen. Charles Boston
To add, you normally use the C axis on CNC lathes as this is the chuck rotation, therefore on a lathe/ machining centre you can for instance; drill on a PDC (pitch circle diameter). You can also mill profiles using the C axis
Joe, I just wanted to thank you for your Fadal videos. I took a job last week overseeing the CNC department at a local shop, and they have two Fadal VMCs in their arsenal. I haven't used Fadals before, but thanks to your videos I was up and running and machining on them within a day. Thanks so much!
Glad they helped. I have found that you really can't ask how to do things until you run for a while and hit obstacles. When that happens, keep me in mind, reach out, and i'll help you if I can. Good luck in your new position. ( hit that subscribe button )
Excellent explanation procedure to someone like myself who is very interested in the operation of cnc machining but I'm afraid at 70 years of age it's too late for me to invest in even a small cnc machine as I only manufacture in the model engineering hobby field. But, it's amazing to watch people like yourself program and use this technology to achieve such accurate and phenomenal parts that can be machined in minutes that would take me days, weeks and sometimes months to even remotely successfully finish and not with the accuracy achieved with cnc. Many thanks for commencing the series, I look forward to learning.
Hi Joe, I am not a CNC guy but find this VERY interesting. You have a very good way of teaching and helping me / us understand what is entailed to run and make parts on a CNC. Thank you! Take Care, Reid
Thanks for this series Joe. I'm an old school guy that believes all computers should be turned off with a 5lb sledge,but seeing as this is one of your vids and not from some 20something engineer that knows EVERYTHING.I'm willing to listen and learn.
Joe, thank you for the great videos! I have the same Fadal machine, mine is an 2002 4020HT with 24 ATC. I am new to CNC machines and have just finished rebuilding and learning how to program and old Mori Seiki SL-2H CNC Lathe, now moving on to the Fadal. Watched all 7 videos and they are so very helpful! Appreciate your teaching style. Thank you so much for taking the time to do these videos!!
Getting up to speed can be nerve racking. I am self taught, but had a good friend I could lean on for the tough stuff. Feel free to send me messages if you have specific questions. I'd be happy to assist you.
Great video!! I've had a little training on a cnc but most of my work has been on the Bridgeport mill or a lathe. Looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series!! Great channel and thanks for taking your time and sharing with us!!!!
aaaaamazing vid buddy, perfectly spelled out. so many videos drag out and throw other scenarios which do happen but very confusing when you are mainly need to know function. nailed it this helped me a lot after not doing it in years
Super! Very enjoyable for me particularly because I have no experience with CNC. I'm very much looking forward to the next programs in this series. Well presented btw.
Perfect timing Joe! Literally just got my CNC mill into my shop over the weekend. I have no clue how to even turn it on. Unfortunately mine is an much older (1984) German made machine called Chiron FZ-16 with a Fanuc system 6 controller. It's going be fun for sure! Jason
And to think now in 2021 the World of CNC machines are 5 & 9 axis,,,over whelming, and our county was sending good jobs off shore when you shot this. Now we have a new Academy that will train and help for free,,,Titians of CNC and his team have pumped me up, and building a small 3 axis column mill to help get our grand-kids motived in the world of manufacturing. Thx Joe, for taking out time to help all of us learn, Bear
No offense to titan but you’ll learn 100X’s more watching Joe, MrPete, Abom, this old tony…. Titans of CNC is just a sales rep, showing off machinery most machinist will never use.
Cool, a series of tutorials for mills for my Easter Sunday viewing pleasure. I had to teach myself Haas TL2 Lathe from scratch. Lets imbibe on a little mill instruction. I like your vids. :)
Part 2 and 3 are already done. There is a reason for the sequence, so be patient. I'll probably post part 2 , tonight. I'd like the first day views to get up around 2500 at the 24 hour mark so I know the series will be watched. Stay tuned. Ask questions if you think of any.
I think that is an awesome idea Joe safety is always the first lesson and I am just getting my hands back on a CNC machining center after 15 years, so starting from the beginning is great as the maintenance and safe operation of the equipment is vital to be successful as an operator and programmer. Watching this first clip reminds me of the procedures that help to ensure success. I look forward to watching the rest of the series and don't worry about the thumbs down as I am sure these individuals will eventually experience a few crashes to change their minds. Take care and once again thanks.
Looking forward to the series Joe. I have a Haas TM-1 at home and I'm always interested to learn about other machines. Learning is always good and a great teacher makes it better. Go Gators! I'm out!
This stuff will become second nature if you do it every day. Some machine controllers are slightly different, but if you understand what Joe is showing you, then the manual for the machine you are running will make lots more sense. If you understand manual machining for the lathe or mill, you are 80% there for running a CNC machine. You know what you want to do and how to plan the order of operations. You also have at least a good idea what the speeds and feeds should be. You've used undersized cutters on a manual job and you know how to account for that...And you can do the same on the CNC machine. I would say the most important thing to keep in mind is that the machine is completely blind... it's like you running a manual lathe or mill blindfolded. The machine can't see any obstacles around or on your work. If you tell the machine to drive an end mill through the machine bed, it'll do it's best to do it.... Don't allow yourself to be distracted while getting a job planned and set-up. Make up a pre-flight and post-flight check list so that you won't overlook anything that could damage the machine or make for start-up problems the next morning. G and M codes will get you a very long way. The fancy-dandy computer software comes into it's own when things like 3-D curved surfaces need to be generated.
Excellent comment. So True. I have always said, " Its easier to make a CNC programmer out of a manual machinist, than it is to make a manual machinist out of a CNC programmer". Make a checklist and take your time. Crashes can be expensive.
My CNC experience is young compared to my career, but I wish I had a series like this to watch when I had to teach myself all this stuff. I hung in there, but it was very foreign and confusing. I like this machine and the controller is very friendly once you get over the OMG what if I F#$K up stage.
Joe, thanks for the videos, I always learn something from each one, you're a great teacher and explainer. My question, though, is if I watch all 29 videos are ya going to hire me to run your Fedal? Keep up the good work, I'm going to start packing for my move to Texas. 😉
Thanks Joe, this is great! One question: I know nothing about CNC, but I was surprised the machine would move even in jog with the door open and no manual override.
No tool changer on this machine? In the next year I likely will be going thru the begginer stuff myself when I get my CNC moved in and fired up. Sadly it is not the same control but likely I can still learn a lot of useful info from this series.
Enjoyed and found it interesting....curious..... age of the machine? bought new? cost? life expectancy? software/program compatibility as time passes......my 10ee lathe is 64 years old and still useable, can the same be said for cnc machine?....
Hey chuck. This machine is about 18 years old. I bought after it was rebuilt 4 years ago. The monitor and software are updated and compatible with today's modern CAM systems. Base machine is about $34K before tool holders, vises, delivery, setup, USB readers, electricity and air etc. All said and done you are mid $40's to make a part. I guess if you don't beat on it and do regular service, it should last. I don't know about 64 years, but hell, I won't be around in 64 years, so thats OK.
Thanks! I'm just getting a 4020 going myself. What's the chances you could take a close up picture of the z axis flag for me with dimensions and possibly post to ig? Mine has the z column flag but not on the actual axis, I'm assuming all vintages have the same flag. I'm not sure what the previous owners were using as a reference(maybe they were just usingthe bottom of the axis saddle). I'd hate to crash the changer!
Great start never used one☹️ but I'm about to be informed how too. 😀👍 what depth & speed would one run a 3 inch face mill on a 3 hp gate mill, its 1500 kg so a big mill, I see you have Bridgeport's, it's on hard-ish steel, width of work 1"200
Hmm The HAAS stuff I run has a lot more buttons, still need to get a vid for you. Actually more user friendly due to less multifunction buttons, g code looks to be very similar. PS the newerl mill has 1000 IPM rapids which is kinda scaryl
Easiest control to use, like I need to make an offset. I just type in Df enter "Da Fixture" 😂. Fanuc is fun to use meanwhile the haas control panel is best for fast production and assembly parts
I'll probably never be able to afford one of these machines but I'll be watching this series, very interesting. That keyboard looks dated, if you can't move it to an horizontal position, typing in many lines of code must be a pain??
...4:00....A-B-C....are for rotating the fixture/s around the X-Y-Z axis...... 20 X 40 seems to be a standard for smaller machines....When I worked at Burgmaster (Los Angeles) in the1970's, 20 x 40 was standard travel for the smallest 2 and 3 axis, 8 spindle turret drills....these table travels went up to 60 X 120....120 was 'X' and could be extended as far out as 480", on the traveling column gantry machines...... In the 1970's...CNC was barely in it's infancy....I left Burgmaster in 1979......they were just starting to use the Fanuc controllers......a lot of opposition by the Union against these 'Japanese' machine controllers..... this appears to be an older VTL machine judging by the keyboard...BUT FADAL and HAAS are both USA made in the Los Angeles area......
I wish I had exposure to stuff like this when I was starting out. CNC was just getting started back then. I personally like Fadal machines for the money.
Its always good to know something about how the machine was used before you buy it. And your expectations afterwards. Mine has treated me well, but was purchased from a shop specializing in refurbishing used Fadal machinery.
@@joepie221 Thank you, you're quite right, but you do recommend the Brand Fadal as a starting machine? Nowadays is a little hard to start a business buying a brand new machine, unless is chinese.
As expected. The faces of the controllers do vary, but the code and cans have to be pretty similar. Just navigating around would be the learning curve.
Its a simple incremental simultaneous X,Y and Z movement of 5.00 inches. Its a sub routine looped indefinitely until you hit the stop button. I like to see 100 loops before I stop it. I'll be happy to share the actual code if you don't know how to do this. Hit me up on the contact page of the website i'll post in the video description.
Oh, I see.... the console reminds me, qua style of the Fanucs and alike I spent a lot of time on... I worked for an outfit that sold and serviced these things for a short while. This was during the late 70s'. This firm sold Fanuc and a few other makes, and was a dealer for Posilux, which made CNC drills for multi-layer PCB boards... if you ever see one of those.... there is but one thing you ought to do! Take 5 gallon of high octane petrol, pour over said machine, set a match to it.... you'll be doing the world a very big favour ! These miserable contraptions still used paper punch tape as late as the early 80s' and made many a grown engineer cry ! They couldn't stand the cold....or the heat.... they couldn't deal with drought or .....moisture... They even were known to start flipping on account of very loud noises.... Terrible machines they were.... Toodles! Paddy
Great video! C axis is typically rotation on the Z axis. As such A is rotation on the X axis and B is rotation on the Y axis.
Joe, the training that you're giving away for free is just priceless. What an awesome series. Many thanks!
You're welcome.
Hi Joe. A B and C are rotational axes that relate to X Y and Z. A rotates about X, B rotates about Y and C rotates about Z. There are other 3 letter groups for CNC that you may be familiar with and I am led to believe that they all correspond in a similar manner. I J K for instance relate to arc points and centres for X Y and Z in turn. Also U V W which are secondary linear axes for X Y and Z. Think of a Bridgeport, you have the Z axis that the knee travels along and you also have the quill which is a secondary linear axis.
Thanks Crispin. Did you cover CNC in your apprenticeship? CNC was in its infancy when I did mine.
Hi. Yes did a 10 week cnc course at the training school but then other than my time in the tool room everything has been cnc. Been on cnc grinding machines for the last 2 years.
The "C" Axis is a control that allows for indexing the part around the Z axis. In the Cartesian coordinates you have X-Y-Z and A-B-C where A rotates along the X Axis, B rotates align the Y axis and C rotates along the Z axis.
Joe as usual is very knowledgeable about what he speaks and he is very articulate. He says things in a manner in which you not only learn but want to listen.
Charles Boston
Thanks Charles. Nice compliment. Stay tuned.
A is a rotation about the X axis,
B is a rotation about the Y axis,
C is a rotation about the Z axis
To add, you normally use the C axis on CNC lathes as this is the chuck rotation, therefore on a lathe/ machining centre you can for instance; drill on a PDC (pitch circle diameter). You can also mill profiles using the C axis
Nicely done Joe. The video length seems to be just about perfect for uninterrupted viewing for most us. Thanks again.
Joe, I just wanted to thank you for your Fadal videos. I took a job last week overseeing the CNC department at a local shop, and they have two Fadal VMCs in their arsenal. I haven't used Fadals before, but thanks to your videos I was up and running and machining on them within a day. Thanks so much!
Glad they helped. I have found that you really can't ask how to do things until you run for a while and hit obstacles. When that happens, keep me in mind, reach out, and i'll help you if I can. Good luck in your new position. ( hit that subscribe button )
Very cool Mr. Pieczynski. I've never seen an industrial CNC close up. Looking forward to this series.
Excellent explanation procedure to someone like myself who is very interested in the operation of cnc machining but I'm afraid at 70 years of age it's too late for me to invest in even a small cnc machine as I only manufacture in the model engineering hobby field. But, it's amazing to watch people like yourself program and use this technology to achieve such accurate and phenomenal parts that can be machined in minutes that would take me days, weeks and sometimes months to even remotely successfully finish and not with the accuracy achieved with cnc. Many thanks for commencing the series, I look forward to learning.
Thanks for watching. I've got good stuff on the way.
Hi Joe,
I am not a CNC guy but find this VERY interesting. You have a very good way of teaching and helping me / us understand what is entailed to run and make parts on a CNC. Thank you!
Take Care,
Reid
Thank you. The sequence of subjects is carefully planned. The good stuff is coming.
Great stuff Joe, were all sitting up, pencils sharpened and waiting for the next class..!
2nd video just posted. take a look
Thanks for this series Joe. I'm an old school guy that believes all computers should be turned off with a 5lb sledge,but seeing as this is one of your vids and not from some 20something engineer that knows EVERYTHING.I'm willing to listen and learn.
I will try not to let you down. The machines can do amazing things.
That's what I've heard.Thanks Joe!
Joe, thank you for the great videos! I have the same Fadal machine, mine is an 2002 4020HT with 24 ATC. I am new to CNC machines and have just finished rebuilding and learning how to program and old Mori Seiki SL-2H CNC Lathe, now moving on to the Fadal. Watched all 7 videos and they are so very helpful! Appreciate your teaching style. Thank you so much for taking the time to do these videos!!
Getting up to speed can be nerve racking. I am self taught, but had a good friend I could lean on for the tough stuff. Feel free to send me messages if you have specific questions. I'd be happy to assist you.
looking forward to the rest. Wishing you plenty of luck with work coming in for the machine
Will
Thank you.
Great video!! I've had a little training on a cnc but most of my work has been on the Bridgeport mill or a lathe. Looking forward to the rest of the videos in this series!! Great channel and thanks for taking your time and sharing with us!!!!
Thanks for watching.
Excellent primer for a complete beginner. Well done, and thanks for the information!
I'll start back up soon. Next inline is the min and max programming for drilling and pockets.
aaaaamazing vid buddy, perfectly spelled out. so many videos drag out and throw other scenarios which do happen but very confusing when you are mainly need to know function. nailed it this helped me a lot after not doing it in years
back in mexiiiico we made thermoforming moulds with this machine, brings back memories
Good memories I hope.
Thanks for sharing. I needed a crash course on Fadal CNC mills and this was a great helping tool.
Super! Very enjoyable for me particularly because I have no experience with CNC. I'm very much looking forward to the next programs in this series. Well presented btw.
Thank you. I actually had to make a schedule so the sequence made sense. Stay tuned.
Perfect timing Joe! Literally just got my CNC mill into my shop over the weekend. I have no clue how to even turn it on. Unfortunately mine is an much older (1984) German made machine called Chiron FZ-16 with a Fanuc system 6 controller. It's going be fun for sure! Jason
If nothing else, this series will show you what to dig for in your controller and the mandatory setup check points. Good luck.
And to think now in 2021 the World of CNC machines are 5 & 9 axis,,,over whelming, and our county was sending good jobs off shore when you shot this. Now we have a new Academy that will train and help for free,,,Titians of CNC and his team have pumped me up, and building a small 3 axis column mill to help get our grand-kids motived in the world of manufacturing. Thx Joe, for taking out time to help all of us learn, Bear
No offense to titan but you’ll learn 100X’s more watching Joe, MrPete, Abom, this old tony…. Titans of CNC is just a sales rep, showing off machinery most machinist will never use.
Great stuff, Joe! Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Thanks for sharing
That was awesome: systematic and efficient. These videos should be supplements in training course media.
Thank you. There is so much to cover.
Cool, a series of tutorials for mills for my Easter Sunday viewing pleasure.
I had to teach myself Haas TL2 Lathe from scratch.
Lets imbibe on a little mill instruction.
I like your vids. :)
Thanks.
Great video. Really looking forward to the rest of the series.
I'll keep them coming.
Thanks Joe! Really looking forward to this series of videos.
Part 2 and 3 are already done. There is a reason for the sequence, so be patient. I'll probably post part 2 , tonight. I'd like the first day views to get up around 2500 at the 24 hour mark so I know the series will be watched. Stay tuned. Ask questions if you think of any.
Great idea for a series Joe, I'm looking forward to it enormously. :-)
Thanks joe great information. I was 18 again. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Joe great video looking forward to the series
Thanks Joe for doing this series on CNC I am sure they will be great
So far so good. I plan to cover enough to get a new operator up to speed and clear some of the mysteries.
I think that is an awesome idea Joe safety is always the first lesson and I am just getting my hands back on a CNC machining center after 15 years, so starting from the beginning is great as the maintenance and safe operation of the equipment is vital to be successful as an operator and programmer. Watching this first clip reminds me of the procedures that help to ensure success. I look forward to watching the rest of the series and don't worry about the thumbs down as I am sure these individuals will eventually experience a few crashes to change their minds. Take care and once again thanks.
I bet Kurt were happy when you said, send me six vices. interesting, thanks!
They were. My wife......not so much.
Looking forward to the series Joe. I have a Haas TM-1 at home and I'm always interested to learn about other machines. Learning is always good and a great teacher makes it better. Go Gators! I'm out!
Haas is a nice machine.
such a warm and beautiful display and keyboard.
Its an older machine. I'll keep the keyboard, but an LED display is in my near future.
I run a big Mitsubishi 5 axis mill at work and C axis rotates the spindle 0 - 360% and A axis angles the spindle from 0 - 90%
Thanks.
This stuff will become second nature if you do it every day. Some machine controllers are slightly different, but if you understand what Joe is showing you, then the manual for the machine you are running will make lots more sense.
If you understand manual machining for the lathe or mill, you are 80% there for running a CNC machine. You know what you want to do and how to plan the order of operations. You also have at least a good idea what the speeds and feeds should be. You've used undersized cutters on a manual job and you know how to account for that...And you can do the same on the CNC machine.
I would say the most important thing to keep in mind is that the machine is completely blind... it's like you running a manual lathe or mill blindfolded. The machine can't see any obstacles around or on your work. If you tell the machine to drive an end mill through the machine bed, it'll do it's best to do it.... Don't allow yourself to be distracted while getting a job planned and set-up.
Make up a pre-flight and post-flight check list so that you won't overlook anything that could damage the machine or make for start-up problems the next morning.
G and M codes will get you a very long way. The fancy-dandy computer software comes into it's own when things like 3-D curved surfaces need to be generated.
Excellent comment. So True. I have always said, " Its easier to make a CNC programmer out of a manual machinist, than it is to make a manual machinist out of a CNC programmer". Make a checklist and take your time. Crashes can be expensive.
Thanks for the vid, I am thinking this could be a great series.
Looking forward to this series of videos 👍
Me too actually. Part 1 got a good response.
I like how you did a "older"control . A machine center like this is with in reach!!
I think C is for a 4th axis .no guarantee ...
The Fadal is perhaps the easiest CNC machine to run. I ran them for years. Great show.
My CNC experience is young compared to my career, but I wish I had a series like this to watch when I had to teach myself all this stuff. I hung in there, but it was very foreign and confusing. I like this machine and the controller is very friendly once you get over the OMG what if I F#$K up stage.
Oh, how perfectly timed Joe ;) Thanks for this buddy, appreciate it.
Hi Brad, I'll experiment with the G54, G55... stuff for you. Let me know if you have immediate need for something.
Fantastic- I was going to ask if you be so kind as to do this :) Never did the CNC thing but I am itching to!! Thanks Joe
Great Job explaining
Thanks. I hope you find them helpful.
Joe, thanks for the videos, I always learn something from each one, you're a great teacher and explainer. My question, though, is if I watch all 29 videos are ya going to hire me to run your Fedal?
Keep up the good work, I'm going to start packing for my move to Texas. 😉
If I post 58 videos, I'll only have to pay you half. But welcome to Texas anyway !
Great Video Joe and posted to "RUclips Machinist" group on Facebook.
Thanks. Get the members to subscribe and show me the love.
Thanks Joe, this is great!
One question: I know nothing about CNC, but I was surprised the machine would move even in jog with the door open and no manual override.
Me too actually, the door safetys are not installed on this one. You can open the door and reach right in on full auto. Not Suggested !
Very interesting Joe, thanks.
The good stuff is coming. Hang in there.
No tool changer on this machine? In the next year I likely will be going thru the begginer stuff myself when I get my CNC moved in and fired up. Sadly it is not the same control but likely I can still learn a lot of useful info from this series.
No arm like the side carousel. This is an umbrella style that advances for tool changes. It will be covered.
That IS an 88HS control. Multi-processor refers to the fact that there is a single 8088 processor on each axis board.
Does the 88 base controller not have multiple processors?
As I understand it, there is one master processor in the base controller and a single slave processor in each of the axis boards.
A B and C refer to work rotation axis according to work plane be it XY XZ or YZ
have the same fadal at my shop you did a good explanation on everything. .keep making chios..
Thanks. I like this machine.
Enjoyed and found it interesting....curious..... age of the machine? bought new? cost? life expectancy? software/program compatibility as time passes......my 10ee lathe is 64 years old and still useable, can the same be said for cnc machine?....
Hey chuck. This machine is about 18 years old. I bought after it was rebuilt 4 years ago. The monitor and software are updated and compatible with today's modern CAM systems. Base machine is about $34K before tool holders, vises, delivery, setup, USB readers, electricity and air etc. All said and done you are mid $40's to make a part. I guess if you don't beat on it and do regular service, it should last. I don't know about 64 years, but hell, I won't be around in 64 years, so thats OK.
Awesome Joe.! Thanks!
Thanks! I'm just getting a 4020 going myself. What's the chances you could take a close up picture of the z axis flag for me with dimensions and possibly post to ig? Mine has the z column flag but not on the actual axis, I'm assuming all vintages have the same flag. I'm not sure what the previous owners were using as a reference(maybe they were just usingthe bottom of the axis saddle). I'd hate to crash the changer!
Sure. I'll get you a table to spindle measurement as well. feel free to ask questions as they arise.
Joe Pieczynski not sure I've been looking in the right place, did you ever happen post that info?
Joe Pieczynski HI again! Just pestering you again for the z height/flag dimensions yet. Thanks
Great start never used one☹️ but I'm about to be informed how too. 😀👍 what depth & speed would one run a 3 inch face mill on a 3 hp gate mill, its 1500 kg so a big mill, I see you have Bridgeport's, it's on hard-ish steel, width of work 1"200
Is it an insert cutter? How many inserts and what type? If its a high speed steel cutter, I'd keep it under 300.
Joe Pieczynski yes 6 carbide 45 degree inserts don't know the make. Will have a look when I get home 👍
Hmm The HAAS stuff I run has a lot more buttons, still need to get a vid for you.
Actually more user friendly due to less multifunction buttons, g code looks to be very similar.
PS the newerl mill has 1000 IPM rapids which is kinda scaryl
cant wait for more vids like this.... :)
There are 30 topics to cover to make a part. I'll try to do 4 or 5 at a time. Thanks for watching.
Hello Joe. Great Video and good looking CNC center. P.S. I like style of analog console. It's looks simple and easy to enter command. But is it true?
You be the judge. I think so.
Easiest control to use, like I need to make an offset. I just type in Df enter "Da Fixture" 😂. Fanuc is fun to use meanwhile the haas control panel is best for fast production and assembly parts
My controller experience is limited.
I'll probably never be able to afford one of these machines but I'll be watching this series, very interesting. That keyboard looks dated, if you can't move it to an horizontal position, typing in many lines of code must be a pain??
I don't even give it a second thought anymore. I actually look at the keys as I type, so having them in my face kinda helps.
Nice work Joe. What year is your Fadal VMC 4020?
Probably 20 years, and maybe 30 years old.
1999
...4:00....A-B-C....are for rotating the fixture/s around the X-Y-Z axis...... 20 X 40 seems to be a standard for smaller machines....When I worked at Burgmaster (Los Angeles) in the1970's, 20 x 40 was standard travel for the smallest 2 and 3 axis, 8 spindle turret drills....these table travels went up to 60 X 120....120 was 'X' and could be extended as far out as 480", on the traveling column gantry machines...... In the 1970's...CNC was barely in it's infancy....I left Burgmaster in 1979......they were just starting to use the Fanuc controllers......a lot of opposition by the Union against these 'Japanese' machine controllers..... this appears to be an older VTL machine judging by the keyboard...BUT FADAL and HAAS are both USA made in the Los Angeles area......
I wish I had exposure to stuff like this when I was starting out. CNC was just getting started back then. I personally like Fadal machines for the money.
Do you recommend a used FADAL as a starting machine in a shop??
Its always good to know something about how the machine was used before you buy it. And your expectations afterwards. Mine has treated me well, but was purchased from a shop specializing in refurbishing used Fadal machinery.
@@joepie221 Thank you, you're quite right, but you do recommend the Brand Fadal as a starting machine? Nowadays is a little hard to start a business buying a brand new machine, unless is chinese.
I only know Haas, looks like it's all same/same (~) just a bit different layout/names for a few things.
As expected. The faces of the controllers do vary, but the code and cans have to be pretty similar. Just navigating around would be the learning curve.
on the second vid when you hit the jog button it says that c is rotation speed
Awsome sauce!!!!
Save some of that. More to come.
thanks!
Thanks for watching.
Great info! Thanks!
Hey buudy could you Share your warm up program?
Its a simple incremental simultaneous X,Y and Z movement of 5.00 inches. Its a sub routine looped indefinitely until you hit the stop button. I like to see 100 loops before I stop it. I'll be happy to share the actual code if you don't know how to do this. Hit me up on the contact page of the website i'll post in the video description.
woo hoo it's on where's the line shaft on this thing?
I am confident the mystery will be lifted if we get through the whole schedule.
Great machine, but I really do dislike that 1970's typewriter fadal control
The onscreen ones are sweet.
joe interesting.
a little to advanced for me i don't understand the terminology yet. i need basic first.
from the 1980-90s ?
Paddy
Full rebuild and upgrades in 2003
Oh, I see.... the console reminds me, qua style of the Fanucs and alike I spent a lot of time on... I worked for an outfit that sold and serviced these things for a short while.
This was during the late 70s'.
This firm sold Fanuc and a few other makes, and was a dealer for Posilux, which made CNC drills for multi-layer PCB boards... if you ever see one of those.... there is but one thing you ought to do!
Take 5 gallon of high octane petrol, pour over said machine, set a match to it.... you'll be doing the world a very big favour !
These miserable contraptions still used paper punch tape as late as the early 80s' and made many a grown engineer cry ! They couldn't stand the cold....or the heat.... they couldn't deal with drought or .....moisture...
They even were known to start flipping on account of very loud noises....
Terrible machines they were....
Toodles!
Paddy
Everyone knows 'c' is for cookie. Switch to that a cookies fall out.
I tried it....It worked. Thin mint. Thanks for the tip.
ABC is easy as 123.... Doe ray me ......
Once you finally figure it out. It really is.