You mentioned that the left side of this cabinet butts up against the right side of the lazy susan cabinet. You also want the fronts on the two cabinets to be symmetrical when the cabinets are attached together. The left side of this cabinet has a stile. The right side of the lazy susan also has a stile. If you butt them together, you will have two stiles on the left side of the total assembly and only one on the right side, next to the handle. How do you handle this to maintain the desired symmetry? Or do you have to make the lazy susan and this cabinet as one cabinet with a shared frame?
Hi Pat, I've become intimidated about the cut list it seems. I'm not pulling the trigger on ordering the prefinished plywood I luckily found. You mentioned, I think in this video I was watching last night that you went over a cut list. But I haven't seen where? Is that still available? Do you use a computer program to figure your list? I feel I can draw my simple kitchen cabinets out on paper easier than learning Sketchup right at this moment, although I like what I see about Sketchup. I can of course get a pretty good idea about a cut list, it's just that I've not built kitchen cabinets before.
Whippetfest First, I'm glad you found prefinished plywood. I hope that makes your journey easier. Second, breathe easy, you got this. I put the cut list on our blog (warning, work in progress) at www.homeshopjournal.com just go to the "Free Stuff" page and you should see an excel file called "Cabinet Cut List". It's got samples of the sink base and lazy susan (on different tabs) for you to use as a template. Obviously, you'll erase my measurements and plug in your own. There are different sections for the actual carcass (box), face frames, drawer boxes and doors. Each section has some extra lines (custom 1, custom 2, etc) for more complicated cabinets. Let me know if you have any questions. I do not use an automatic method to compute a parts list. I still do most of it manually, though I'm thinking of giving a program a try that one of our viewers talked about. Google sketchup I think has an "add-in" or something that you can use to generate a cut list too but I've never used it and would imagine it's "picky" with respect to how all your parts need to be drawn the right way, etc. And I too sometimes just like to draw it out before i use sketchup :) I do however use a "panel optimizer" software program that I really like. I enter in all of my plywood sides, backs, bottoms, etc. and it lays it out 'optimally' on sheets of plywood so that i minimize waste. For a small number of cabinets though, it's probably not worth buying. Just make your list, check it against your drawings and trust yourself. The worst that happens is you make a mistake. I've made plenty :) Good luck, hope this helps.
Pat, You are such a Tremendous help! My brother was always my encourager and I've done so much over the years do to it. You remind me of him in that way. He said to me about mistakes, when I bought my first home. He said what's the worst that's going to happen? You make a mistake and you might then call in a professional. Only one time have I had to do that (plumbing). It's just amazing to be such a DIY'er, the amount of money saved and satisfaction of knowing "I did that". I could redo my kitchen three times for the amount of a quote I received. That frees me up in being okay with the idea of messing up here and there. Oh well, fix it........ So, I do know I can do this. With your videos and a question here or there, I think I'll be okay. Thanks to you! I remember writing down your "shop math" formula from the video because I knew it would be helpful. I have a ton of notes I need to go back and read. Your cut list example really gave me direction of how to get organized. Planning on paper is not my strong suit. I'm more the "Open Shop Friday" type :) Although I know with the kitchen, there is no way around being organized. I've not had to be this precise for this size of project to bring together. It's pushing me in order to be precise as I can be and that's how we grow right :) I have all winter to do this whole project and this is what I love about it. It's on my time and a lot less money, yet great quality materials. I've also seen the panel optimizer on a video, it does look like helpful software. Thank you again!!
jlynn11021 Whippetfest It looks like a decent program. If your interested, I use Cut List Plus. www.cutlistplus.com the downside is that the price has gone up since I first bought it a few years ago. It's now at $89, so probably not worth it for a single kitchen project.
Thank you guys for the links to check out. I've been busy making a rolling workbench/table to also use with table saw. Now I have so much more work space and more ready to start building once I have my plans in order (the hard part for me).
Random stuff literally one piece at a time. There is a great series of instructional videos at www.sketchupforwoodworkers.com that will have you off and running in no time. Thanks for watching!
In my quest to learn Sketchup, I found this book by Bob Lang. It is in pdf format with video embedded. He sends you a disc to download, about $39.00. I have learned so much about the tools of sketchup and more, so quickly, it's amazing! I'm only about 40 pages in to 170 something and it goes by rather quickly so far. It gets exciting! I have sketchup open while I'm reading, learning and trying out. Mr. Lang goes around teaching classes on Sketchup that one can attend, but luckily we have it all right here.... www.craftsmanplans.com/sketchup.htm
Whippetfest very cool. I'll take a closer look this week. In the process of designing an office wall-to-wall built-in, so it's timely. Thanks for sharing!
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You mentioned that the left side of this cabinet butts up against the right side of the lazy susan cabinet. You also want the fronts on the two cabinets to be symmetrical when the cabinets are attached together. The left side of this cabinet has a stile. The right side of the lazy susan also has a stile. If you butt them together, you will have two stiles on the left side of the total assembly and only one on the right side, next to the handle. How do you handle this to maintain the desired symmetry? Or do you have to make the lazy susan and this cabinet as one cabinet with a shared frame?
Hi Pat, I've become intimidated about the cut list it seems. I'm not pulling the trigger on ordering the prefinished plywood I luckily found. You mentioned, I think in this video I was watching last night that you went over a cut list. But I haven't seen where? Is that still available? Do you use a computer program to figure your list? I feel I can draw my simple kitchen cabinets out on paper easier than learning Sketchup right at this moment, although I like what I see about Sketchup. I can of course get a pretty good idea about a cut list, it's just that I've not built kitchen cabinets before.
Whippetfest First, I'm glad you found prefinished plywood. I hope that makes your journey easier. Second, breathe easy, you got this.
I put the cut list on our blog (warning, work in progress) at www.homeshopjournal.com just go to the "Free Stuff" page and you should see an excel file called "Cabinet Cut List". It's got samples of the sink base and lazy susan (on different tabs) for you to use as a template. Obviously, you'll erase my measurements and plug in your own. There are different sections for the actual carcass (box), face frames, drawer boxes and doors. Each section has some extra lines (custom 1, custom 2, etc) for more complicated cabinets. Let me know if you have any questions.
I do not use an automatic method to compute a parts list. I still do most of it manually, though I'm thinking of giving a program a try that one of our viewers talked about. Google sketchup I think has an "add-in" or something that you can use to generate a cut list too but I've never used it and would imagine it's "picky" with respect to how all your parts need to be drawn the right way, etc. And I too sometimes just like to draw it out before i use sketchup :)
I do however use a "panel optimizer" software program that I really like. I enter in all of my plywood sides, backs, bottoms, etc. and it lays it out 'optimally' on sheets of plywood so that i minimize waste. For a small number of cabinets though, it's probably not worth buying.
Just make your list, check it against your drawings and trust yourself. The worst that happens is you make a mistake. I've made plenty :) Good luck, hope this helps.
Pat,
You are such a Tremendous help! My brother was always my encourager and I've done so much over the years do to it. You remind me of him in that way. He said to me about mistakes, when I bought my first home. He said what's the worst that's going to happen? You make a mistake and you might then call in a professional. Only one time have I had to do that (plumbing). It's just amazing to be such a DIY'er, the amount of money saved and satisfaction of knowing "I did that". I could redo my kitchen three times for the amount of a quote I received. That frees me up in being okay with the idea of messing up here and there. Oh well, fix it........ So, I do know I can do this. With your videos and a question here or there, I think I'll be okay. Thanks to you!
I remember writing down your "shop math" formula from the video because I knew it would be helpful. I have a ton of notes I need to go back and read. Your cut list example really gave me direction of how to get organized. Planning on paper is not my strong suit. I'm more the "Open Shop Friday" type :) Although I know with the kitchen, there is no way around being organized. I've not had to be this precise for this size of project to bring together. It's pushing me in order to be precise as I can be and that's how we grow right :) I have all winter to do this whole project and this is what I love about it. It's on my time and a lot less money, yet great quality materials.
I've also seen the panel optimizer on a video, it does look like helpful software.
Thank you again!!
Whippetfest, try this program. I have used it in the past, and it's pretty good for figuring out cut lists. delphiforfun.org/Programs/CutList.htm
jlynn11021 Whippetfest It looks like a decent program. If your interested, I use Cut List Plus. www.cutlistplus.com the downside is that the price has gone up since I first bought it a few years ago. It's now at $89, so probably not worth it for a single kitchen project.
Thank you guys for the links to check out. I've been busy making a rolling workbench/table to also use with table saw. Now I have so much more work space and more ready to start building once I have my plans in order (the hard part for me).
Pat,
Is it possible to get a copy of that file? Learning Sketch Up now to do exactly this...
Thanks! Scott
Scott Van Nostrand I just switched our blog "provider" they should be up shortly
www.homeshopjournal.com
How did you design your cabinets on Google Sketchup?
Random stuff literally one piece at a time. There is a great series of instructional videos at www.sketchupforwoodworkers.com that will have you off and running in no time. Thanks for watching!
In my quest to learn Sketchup, I found this book by Bob Lang. It is in pdf format with video embedded. He sends you a disc to download, about $39.00. I have learned so much about the tools of sketchup and more, so quickly, it's amazing! I'm only about 40 pages in to 170 something and it goes by rather quickly so far. It gets exciting! I have sketchup open while I'm reading, learning and trying out. Mr. Lang goes around teaching classes on Sketchup that one can attend, but luckily we have it all right here....
www.craftsmanplans.com/sketchup.htm
Whippetfest very cool. I'll take a closer look this week. In the process of designing an office wall-to-wall built-in, so it's timely. Thanks for sharing!
So glad it may be of help to you :)
Something else I like about the book is how it is set up, makes it easy to refer back.