************ Anyone USING THE AMAZON ENCODERS USE THIS for the programming : use a 1:4 Ratio on the encoder and a pulse width from 8ms to 24ms works well for me and enjoy your new button box!! ********************* Post pics of your build on our Facebook page let everyone see what you have created! Link in description
Hello. Many thanks for making this video. Spooky timing, just this week I have been looking around to see if there was a commercial product that was basically a set of switches I could add to MSFS. I had no idea that boards like this existed and made the process so straightforward. It was a second nice surprise to find that the supplier was in the UK as I am too. Board and encoders ordered and on the way ! As well as this video I have made good use of some of your earlier ones concerning MSFS performance tuning. So refreshing to have someone document a method for doing it rather than just posting a batch of settings that may not apply to an individual situation. Thanks again
Thanks so much for the comment .and I'm happy this video helped you to push forward in building your own custom switch panel that was my hope for this video and it's so rewarding for me to hear that people are taking the leap and creating something 😊. Post your build pics on the Facebook group we would love to see them . 😃
Thank you very much . My goal is to do just that help everyone to be able to enjoy this sim and to use it how we want like custom button box that won't cost you your arm .lol
I use the Leo Bodnar BU0836A as it is a perfect replacement board for the axes of the Logitech (Saitek) Yoke giving much more resolution and it has plenty of connections for more axes, buttons, switches and rotary encoders. - I keep meaning to make rotary controls for COM1, NAV1, Autopilot panel functions and G530/G1000 FMS rotary controls, I only "parked" this project as I recently got the Honeycomb Bravo (which has the autopilot buttons/dials) and have also used FSUIPC7 to map keybinds for the rotary inner/outer controls - also it will allow me to use what I learnt in my A' Level Electronics 36 years ago! 😉
Yes I am using the 836a board in my current build . I'm using it for three potentiometers and I'm also using it to drive all five of my encoders that I'm using. I'm currently using two faders with a center detent and I use these for my Rudder and aileron trim and I have a knob potentiometer that I'm using for lights and things like that the other thing that I really liked about this board is that they created a button Matrix board that plugs right on top of this bu 836 board and the button layout is the exact same then when you do that as the BBI 32 and 64 boards this makes it very easy to connect all of your buttons and switches into a button Matrix without all the hard work of doing a button Matrix and the board also has diodes built in so this way you can press more than three or four buttons at the same time without any ghosting I've posted all the pictures of my build on our Facebook group if you're interested. In this video I have two quick slides of my current build at about the time when I was talking about hot gluing the board into the bottom of my container that's when I showed the two pictures of my current build
Dude, if I wake up one day to see you have put out a video of modding Razor scooters and electric dirtbikes, you are going to be my official man crush.... 🤣🤣
@@2020fsers lol man i realized after that video that helped me so much with my display graphics and playing a while that I was trying to get VR going, not my monitor. But it's so good now. I got sidetracked. I've got VR dialed in pretty good now but just not sure if it's got room for improvement or If Im at max level. Still going through vids. Thanks!
@@2020fsers Meta Quest 3. My Son bought it, couldn't handle the motion, so I bailed him out of the $$ so I'm now the proud owner. I got to get to a point where I know I can stop because it's at the headset limits now. I think I'm close.
Very interesting video, thanks. It gave me an interesting idea to build a separate device for camera control. I Just hope I can get the BBI32 to Switzerland witout having to pay twice the prise in shopping charges.
Great video. Im still super grateful for your set-up videos for ultimate fps and performance. I was on the edge of ordering a mew cpu but after following your guides i now have butter smooth performance and average around 80fps with ultra settings. I was pulling my hair out before i watched your guides, especially after i had invested so much in the pc (7950X & MSI 4090 suprim x) Once i can afford it, theyll be a good donation coming your way my friend
Jon, that was awesome and thank you for taking the time and effort. I'm going build one myself customized for my preferences. I think I'll also do the altimeter setting and heading bug as well. Fun video as always! 🎉😄🍕 Pizza!?...
Thanks buddy 😃. Yes you can customize this any way you want . The main goal of this video was to get people that may have been on the fence of building button box to maybe push them over the edge to get going once they see just how easy the setup is not to mention there is very few videos online to show a complete build with any programming and keybinding in the simulator. I'm not sure if you caught the two pictures of my personal build that I'm doing in the video but I am actually using two of these 32 button box boards and one of their joystick controllers so that I can map a couple potentiometers to but my total switch count is 65 with 5 no sorry 6 encoders and three potentiometers two sliding potentiometers with Center dtents that I'm using for my aileron and Rudder trim and one is a knob potentiometer that I'm using to control my lights. But I didn't want to get into any potentiometers because that's a different board that you need and there's a little bit more work involved so that's why I stuck with this board as opposed to using their 64 button board with that one you also need to crimp one connections to attach all the wires and with the 32 you don't have to do any of that it was the easiest one to use
Thank you so much for this video. I wish I knew about using Leobodnar's product. Recently I bought Arduino Leonardo board and a dual concentric rotary encoder from Propwash. With help from a RUclipsr he showed me how to connected all the wiring and programmed with Arduino IDE software. I wanted the dual concentric rotary encoder to tune the COM frequencies, but it didn't work out that well. When I rotated the knob, there was long delay for the frequency to change and sometimes it skipped some numbers. I noticed Leobodnar sells a dual concentric rotary encoder, I would like to give it a try with their BB!-32. Thanks again for the precise instructions on how to use buttons, switches and encoders. Cheers!
Hey thanks for the comment. You should be able to use your dual encoders from propwash sim in the Leo board . If you already have a couple of them I would try them.
@@2020fsers That's great that I can use the Propwash rotary encoder with Leobodnar board. I have one question...does the Leobodnar encoder have detent when you rotate the knob?
I'm looking to make a box for American Truck Simulator. I have a few questions; 1. Do you know if you can use the 32 & 64 button boards for ATS? 2. How would you setup an ignition switch with an; off, Accessory, and start positions? 3. How would you setup a push pull switch for the Air Brakes and Trailer Air Supply?
Yes this will work with any simulator it shows up in the Sim as a game controller and they provide the firmware so you can rename the controller whatever you want. Go on Amazon and look up four position single pole rotary switch and those are what I use but I use the five position
@@2020fsers I ask about the 64 button because I read somewhere that a bunch of sims (ATS & ETS 2 included) will not recognize more than 32 buttons. I've seen others put ignition key switches in button boxes but they are not using the board you're using. I'd like to know how to do it with that board. I'm going to use this: MGI SpeedWare 4-Position Universal Ignition Key Switch. Another thing I haven't seen addressed is: when you hookup each component (steering/yoke, pedals, shifter, button box or boxes) can you use a USB Hub and just plug them all into that hub? That way you're only using 1 USB plug on your PC.
WRT the "Amazon encoders" you showed, the 5V supply is for pull-up resistors that the other type doesn't have. The BBI-32's electronics does that job anyway. As an electronics engineer, I'd leave that disconnected and probably remove the resistors on the board.
@@2020fsers It wouldn't. Leaving them in and connecting the 5V just reduces the effective pull-up resistance for those inputs, but not enough to cause a problem. It's just I'd rather not mess about with the extra wiring.
Yes No1sonuk is correct. The amazon encoders will work perfectly well without any 5v connection. I have many encoders hooked up to bbi-64's using only gnd and they are all working fine.
Very interesting and what I'm looking for. Can I build a 737-800 MCP along with the upper and lower overhead panels? I know that's a lot of buttons, switches, and encoders but I'm willing to attempt it if you confirm it's possible. Thank you.
Yes you can use the Leo boards for that the only thing they cannot do is activate any LED backlighting you may have behind the switch for instance when you turn a switch on you want an LED to light up behind the lettering for the switch like for Apu or something like that and you want that to light up the Leo board cannot do that for you however there is another board that you can use for all of your LED lights your back lighting behind the switches and it works very similar to the Leo board www.ultimarc.com/output/led-and-output-controllers/pacled64/ basically all your LEDs will get hooked up just like on the Leo board and you will use a condition in spad to tell the LED to turn on once the switch is turned on now if you need an LED to read out numbers to you that is different you may want to check out propwash sim their website they have boards to set up for Led readouts like frequencies and things like that
Is it possible to use the encoders to change info on the g1000NXI or the GS530. I have 4 encoders and was hoping to use them as the inner and outer knobs. Thanks for the video by the way. All your videos are great.
Yes you can that is what they are used for . The knobs on the g1000 and 530 are encoders . So all you need to do is program your encoders for the specific knob and direction . Like (g1000 inner knob Inc ). Spad is best for this level of programming however.
Could you use an on on switch with this board? And just wire both inputs to the same button? Star citizen doesn’t have a “hold” feature for keybinds for powering on ships so I’d have to toggle it again just to press the button again
You can use momentary switches and 3way switches as well . Each terminal on the switch except ground will go to a separate input on the board . A momentary switch is probably what you need . A momentary toggle switch or a momentary push button. You can also use a 3way momentary toggle
Awesome hey when you program the encoder use the settings that are on the page for the encoder . But you can try the setting I suggested In the pinned comment if the encoder doesn't spin fast on screen . If you have any issue just give me a shout .
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************ Anyone USING THE AMAZON ENCODERS USE THIS for the programming : use a 1:4 Ratio on the encoder and a pulse width from 8ms to 24ms works well for me and enjoy your new button box!! ********************* Post pics of your build on our Facebook page let everyone see what you have created! Link in description
Every single one of your videos are easy to follow and understand. Thanks for all the time you put into this and we are all better for it! !! !!!
Your very welcome thanks for the comment 😀
Best demonstration and illustrations ever for building button boxes. It looks pretty easy, especially when using the Bodner hardware.
Thank you. Yes it's it very easy to set up and works great .
This is a spectacularly helpful video... thank you, sir!
Your welcome thanks for the comment 😁
Fantastic video. Have been looking for an Arduino alternative. Thank you.
Your welcome thanks for the comment
Hello. Many thanks for making this video. Spooky timing, just this week I have been looking around to see if there was a commercial product that was basically a set of switches I could add to MSFS. I had no idea that boards like this existed and made the process so straightforward. It was a second nice surprise to find that the supplier was in the UK as I am too. Board and encoders ordered and on the way ! As well as this video I have made good use of some of your earlier ones concerning MSFS performance tuning. So refreshing to have someone document a method for doing it rather than just posting a batch of settings that may not apply to an individual situation. Thanks again
Thanks so much for the comment .and I'm happy this video helped you to push forward in building your own custom switch panel that was my hope for this video and it's so rewarding for me to hear that people are taking the leap and creating something 😊. Post your build pics on the Facebook group we would love to see them . 😃
Wow, what a great tutorial. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you.
Thank you for all your great informational videos helping us all to enjoy our flight-siming experience!
Best to you ♥
Thank you very much . My goal is to do just that help everyone to be able to enjoy this sim and to use it how we want like custom button box that won't cost you your arm .lol
Tack!
Your welcome thanks so much 😀.
I use the Leo Bodnar BU0836A as it is a perfect replacement board for the axes of the Logitech (Saitek) Yoke giving much more resolution and it has plenty of connections for more axes, buttons, switches and rotary encoders. - I keep meaning to make rotary controls for COM1, NAV1, Autopilot panel functions and G530/G1000 FMS rotary controls, I only "parked" this project as I recently got the Honeycomb Bravo (which has the autopilot buttons/dials) and have also used FSUIPC7 to map keybinds for the rotary inner/outer controls - also it will allow me to use what I learnt in my A' Level Electronics 36 years ago! 😉
Yes I am using the 836a board in my current build . I'm using it for three potentiometers and I'm also using it to drive all five of my encoders that I'm using. I'm currently using two faders with a center detent and I use these for my Rudder and aileron trim and I have a knob potentiometer that I'm using for lights and things like that the other thing that I really liked about this board is that they created a button Matrix board that plugs right on top of this bu 836 board and the button layout is the exact same then when you do that as the BBI 32 and 64 boards this makes it very easy to connect all of your buttons and switches into a button Matrix without all the hard work of doing a button Matrix and the board also has diodes built in so this way you can press more than three or four buttons at the same time without any ghosting I've posted all the pictures of my build on our Facebook group if you're interested.
In this video I have two quick slides of my current build at about the time when I was talking about hot gluing the board into the bottom of my container that's when I showed the two pictures of my current build
Dude, if I wake up one day to see you have put out a video of modding Razor scooters and electric dirtbikes, you are going to be my official man crush.... 🤣🤣
Lol what can I say to that ... thanks 😆 hey thanks for the comment
@@2020fsers lol man i realized after that video that helped me so much with my display graphics and playing a while that I was trying to get VR going, not my monitor. But it's so good now. I got sidetracked. I've got VR dialed in pretty good now but just not sure if it's got room for improvement or If Im at max level. Still going through vids. Thanks!
@scotmaciver your welcome .. vr can be tricky depending on headset
@@2020fsers Meta Quest 3. My Son bought it, couldn't handle the motion, so I bailed him out of the $$ so I'm now the proud owner. I got to get to a point where I know I can stop because it's at the headset limits now. I think I'm close.
@scotmaciver that set has great lenses .. i used the quest pro but due to issues sent it back .
Very interesting video, thanks. It gave me an interesting idea to build a separate device for camera control. I Just hope I can get the BBI32 to Switzerland witout having to pay twice the prise in shopping charges.
shipping to the USA was about $7 for reference
Great video. Im still super grateful for your set-up videos for ultimate fps and performance. I was on the edge of ordering a mew cpu but after following your guides i now have butter smooth performance and average around 80fps with ultra settings. I was pulling my hair out before i watched your guides, especially after i had invested so much in the pc (7950X & MSI 4090 suprim x)
Once i can afford it, theyll be a good donation coming your way my friend
Thanks so much for the kind words im happy my videos can help . I always appreciate any support .😁
Jon, that was awesome and thank you for taking the time and effort. I'm going build one myself customized for my preferences. I think I'll also do the altimeter setting and heading bug as well.
Fun video as always! 🎉😄🍕 Pizza!?...
Thanks buddy 😃. Yes you can customize this any way you want . The main goal of this video was to get people that may have been on the fence of building button box to maybe push them over the edge to get going once they see just how easy the setup is not to mention there is very few videos online to show a complete build with any programming and keybinding in the simulator. I'm not sure if you caught the two pictures of my personal build that I'm doing in the video but I am actually using two of these 32 button box boards and one of their joystick controllers so that I can map a couple potentiometers to but my total switch count is 65 with 5 no sorry 6 encoders and three potentiometers two sliding potentiometers with Center dtents that I'm using for my aileron and Rudder trim and one is a knob potentiometer that I'm using to control my lights. But I didn't want to get into any potentiometers because that's a different board that you need and there's a little bit more work involved so that's why I stuck with this board as opposed to using their 64 button board with that one you also need to crimp one connections to attach all the wires and with the 32 you don't have to do any of that it was the easiest one to use
Post your build on the Facebook group
Great job, thank you
your welcome thanks for the comment
Thank you so much for this video. I wish I knew about using Leobodnar's product. Recently I bought Arduino Leonardo board and a dual concentric rotary encoder from Propwash. With help from a RUclipsr he showed me how to connected all the wiring and programmed with Arduino IDE software. I wanted the dual concentric rotary encoder to tune the COM frequencies, but it didn't work out that well. When I rotated the knob, there was long delay for the frequency to change and sometimes it skipped some numbers. I noticed Leobodnar sells a dual concentric rotary encoder, I would like to give it a try with their BB!-32. Thanks again for the precise instructions on how to use buttons, switches and encoders. Cheers!
Hey thanks for the comment. You should be able to use your dual encoders from propwash sim in the Leo board . If you already have a couple of them I would try them.
@@2020fsers That's great that I can use the Propwash rotary encoder with Leobodnar board. I have one question...does the Leobodnar encoder have detent when you rotate the knob?
@dixonmak yes the Leo encoders have detents.
I'm looking to make a box for American Truck Simulator. I have a few questions; 1. Do you know if you can use the 32 & 64 button boards for ATS? 2. How would you setup an ignition switch with an; off, Accessory, and start positions? 3. How would you setup a push pull switch for the Air Brakes and Trailer Air Supply?
Yes this will work with any simulator it shows up in the Sim as a game controller and they provide the firmware so you can rename the controller whatever you want. Go on Amazon and look up four position single pole rotary switch and those are what I use but I use the five position
@@2020fsers I ask about the 64 button because I read somewhere that a bunch of sims (ATS & ETS 2 included) will not recognize more than 32 buttons. I've seen others put ignition key switches in button boxes but they are not using the board you're using. I'd like to know how to do it with that board. I'm going to use this: MGI SpeedWare 4-Position Universal Ignition Key Switch. Another thing I haven't seen addressed is: when you hookup each component (steering/yoke, pedals, shifter, button box or boxes) can you use a USB Hub and just plug them all into that hub? That way you're only using 1 USB plug on your PC.
Msfs recognizes 64 buttons I can't say for other sims . Yes you can use a USB hub
Yes you can use that ignition switch . It will work fine
@@2020fsers How do you wire that ignition switch with the board you used?
WRT the "Amazon encoders" you showed, the 5V supply is for pull-up resistors that the other type doesn't have. The BBI-32's electronics does that job anyway.
As an electronics engineer, I'd leave that disconnected and probably remove the resistors on the board.
It doesn't seem to have any negative effect for me .
@@2020fsers It wouldn't. Leaving them in and connecting the 5V just reduces the effective pull-up resistance for those inputs, but not enough to cause a problem.
It's just I'd rather not mess about with the extra wiring.
Yes No1sonuk is correct. The amazon encoders will work perfectly well without any 5v connection. I have many encoders hooked up to bbi-64's using only gnd and they are all working fine.
@cammy9r good to know I never tried it without the 5 volts thanks for the tip
Very interesting and what I'm looking for. Can I build a 737-800 MCP along with the upper and lower overhead panels? I know that's a lot of buttons, switches, and encoders but I'm willing to attempt it if you confirm it's possible. Thank you.
Yes you can use the Leo boards for that the only thing they cannot do is activate any LED backlighting you may have behind the switch for instance when you turn a switch on you want an LED to light up behind the lettering for the switch like for Apu or something like that and you want that to light up the Leo board cannot do that for you however there is another board that you can use for all of your LED lights your back lighting behind the switches and it works very similar to the Leo board www.ultimarc.com/output/led-and-output-controllers/pacled64/ basically all your LEDs will get hooked up just like on the Leo board and you will use a condition in spad to tell the LED to turn on once the switch is turned on now if you need an LED to read out numbers to you that is different you may want to check out propwash sim their website they have boards to set up for Led readouts like frequencies and things like that
@@2020fsers Thanks for the response. Thanks to your easy-to-understand instructions, I will move forward with this task and let you know the outcome.
Is it possible to use the encoders to change info on the g1000NXI or the GS530. I have 4 encoders and was hoping to use them as the inner and outer knobs. Thanks for the video by the way. All your videos are great.
Yes you can that is what they are used for . The knobs on the g1000 and 530 are encoders . So all you need to do is program your encoders for the specific knob and direction . Like (g1000 inner knob Inc ). Spad is best for this level of programming however.
Thanks for the comment 😁
Could you use an on on switch with this board? And just wire both inputs to the same button? Star citizen doesn’t have a “hold” feature for keybinds for powering on ships so I’d have to toggle it again just to press the button again
You can use momentary switches and 3way switches as well . Each terminal on the switch except ground will go to a separate input on the board . A momentary switch is probably what you need . A momentary toggle switch or a momentary push button. You can also use a 3way momentary toggle
I just ordered the BBI32 and 2 encoders. To my good surprise, the shipping cost was only $4.25.
Awesome hey when you program the encoder use the settings that are on the page for the encoder . But you can try the setting I suggested In the pinned comment if the encoder doesn't spin fast on screen . If you have any issue just give me a shout .
What if I want a display showing altitude for example in the same box? How can this be done? :)
For that you need adruino .
@@2020fsers aa ok. do you know if Arduino has this card for button connections like you showed? :)
@AdventureGutta they are similar but vastly different in programming
@@2020fsers ok :)