I remember that being added. It was neat, and now can be used alongside solar fragments to explain that Steve can’t even carry a percent of the Terrarian’s lifting strength (alongside Steve not being as strong without including Minecraft: Dungeons)
I like to believe the fallen star isn't a full, entire star, but instead a fragment of one, and the rest drifts off into space or math idk, but that would still mean it keeps the density of a star lmao
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha You can have a full three birds using a bewitching table and a summoning potion, but that's mostly irrelevant: shouldn't mana stars, heart crystals, and heart fruit count towards the terrarian's weight?
I wonder if possibly a stack of 9999 crates would weigh the most, with their maximum number of contents each, since some of said contents can weigh a lot individually, on top of the crate itself. Though I suppose several unique items might weigh enough on their own it would outweigh any combination of crate items.
Your mum so fat... that her weight is zero... Due to creating her own gravitational pull breaking our standard definition of weight and redefining our concept of the entire video.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha What about the bottomless liquid buckets? There's nothing stating they don't have mass. Of course if we do include these, that would mean we go into the infinities.
You forgot to take into account the weight of the slush blocks themselves. They are not just 11 platinum coins, they are 11 platinum coins AND a bunch of slush (which can be changed to fossil or silt depending of which one is heavier).
Pointing out how stuff like the Souls and Lunar Fragments float and thus don't necessarily weigh anything is a dangerous game, because minecraft blocks also float off the ground when reduced to an item
There's obviously some kind of force similar to atomic forces in the real world, that causes the mass of the floor and the items to repel each other, since they fall until close to the floor, then hover.
their floating is a special property! They aren't fixed in space they're actively bobbing bouyantly! blocks in both games "floating" behave more like magnetic levitation where minor changes in air don't affect them
It is rather annoying of him to do this so much. its playing favorites. Theres also the fact thats he delibrately ignoring that MAGIC EXIST in the universe so you can't always trust objects with large magic quantities to behave normally (see shimmer, souls, lunar fragments). then theres the star aspect too which is even more annoying cause no its not a meteorite
@rustygamer1250 I'll get around to weighing the magic don't worry, and we'll revisit the fallen stars if the magic deems it necessary! my favourite is math and math alone
10:29 According to all known laws of Terraria aviation, there is no way a Finch should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The finch, of course, flies anyway because finches don't care what Terrarians think is impossible.
Two things: 1. Still hoping for weight in negative average helium party balloons, and 2. I think the miner from 4D miner would win a battle royal all by himself, at least as long as he has the 4D glasses to navigate. The ability to reach out from another dimension directly into (a plane of) your brain while bypassing the skull, and being able to hang out completely safe in another space until you have the opportunity to be able to, is just impossible to counteract with any force or magic constrained to stay within the same dimensional plane as it's user.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha it's actually part of the entire point of 4D Miner in the first place, the 4D Miner player also has to fight enemies that do exactly this so it shows that the 4D Miner player knows how to do this
IDK how 4d works but I'm pretty sure if you high ball the terrarians speed then, the space drone that can appear in space can go (this is based off a random Steve vs terrain video) across multiple galaxy's, then the space ships that you fight come in one second accounting for the fact that the drone must have traveled far already back to home or at least close, so this at least sounds like a stand still at best but IDK how the powers of 4d miner work.
Good call on the coin drops. It doesn't matter how impossibly unlikely having an inventory full of 11-coin drops is; the important thing is that if you did, the Terrarian would be able to carry them!
Seraph from vintage story could hypothetically win because they can canonically time travel and respawn. But the miner from 4d miner can just slip into the 4th dimension and mine away their insides...
16:40 Ichor has two meanings, the blood of the gods from Greek mythology, or… pus. If we assume it’s the later, you need the weight of… a lot of pus. I’m not googling that.
It's implied that the majority of the Starbound Protector's inventory is compressed into their own matter manipulator. So, they probably are pretty weak to begin with compared to the other options out there, but it's definitely worth humoring how much they can carry if it's all hauled onto their back.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-NezhaPhysics. With conservation of mass, most of the weight is focused on the end of the spear. He can lift a lot of weight in a deadlift or distributed somewhat evenly, but the sheer difference of weight between the wood and the metal point throws him off.
knowing nothing at all about terraria makes this series extremely entertaining lmao. my opinion for the battle royale is that the 4d miner would win. now i know nearly nothing about any of the mentioned games other than minecraft but considering that the 4d miner could just hide in a different slice of 4d space none of the other combatants could reach them, and they probably have somewhat good stats considering the similarity to minecraft. also could you include both large and small blahaj as measurements next time please :3
I feel that the Noita (also known as Minä) from Noita would win, due to being able to create a wand that can instantly destroy nigh anything and the gods themselves fear.
@The_Black_Cat_4 Yeah... especially since endgame noita can have literally infinite health, but if you don't count post-ending noita (the effect is presumably not on the noita herself but on the world, so it probably doesn't matter) then there's basically no upper limit to max health - you just have to decide when to stop. It's definitely not possible to survive an optimised Noita wand. Probably not even in 4d, to be honest.
I would say the terrarium can beat the 49er because he summons many creatures that are outside of his dimensional capabilities. Which the terraria world is technically 3-D we only see it from a 2-D perspective. So the terraria fights at minimum one fourth dimensional being and wins.
For the shape of the fallen star, I would probably use a 'small stellated dodecahedron'. It seems like a fitting star-shape, and it looks very similar to the sprite, which seems to have a point sticking out towards the camera in the centre of its face.
Seems like a cool idea, like I actually wish it looked like that. But I think if it was supposed to look like that it would've gotten an updated sprite by now.
Using inner tube logic, you are actually able to calculate the density of both water and air on whatever planet this all takes place in. I’m not smart enough to give you the answers but I’m pretty sure both air and water is extremely dense for the inner tube to even work under these weights. This might have a side effect of getting to stupidly heavy water bottles but hey I don’t quite know.
6:47 I mentioned this in your last video, but lava rockets would be way heavier than fallen stars, even with the new value. Since they can release up to 21 blocks of lava, it totals up to 39.854 pounds per rocket, which can be stacked up to 9999 and can be placed in ammo slots.
Wow that's an incredibly specific answer, from some base level research looks like that would probably make it closer to 300-400 lbm, so a little lighter than the current stars What made you think of it?
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha Tetrataenite can, in a certain light, have a yellow-ish hue, like the Fallen Star. And pallasite meteorites are somewhat rare, just like a Fallen star (I think).
@EnigmaticBackhand69 Fallen Stars aren't really rare, they just only appear at night, but also vanish during the day if not in your inventory or a chest.
Seraph: "I have seen fourteen million, two hundred and seventy seven timelines to see if I achieve victory." Steve: "And how many timelines was that?" Seraph: **Pulls out temporal gear** "This one."
Still need to count the encumbering stone. The minimum weight of one encumbering stone is 1 pound heavier than the heaviest possible non-encumbering stone inventory, so we can add a lot by filling most of our slots with them. And actually, they come in sandstone crates, so you need to figure out the heaviest possible sandstone crate and fill the inventory with those.
There's a massive issue with this video. Completely unmissable. HOW IS THIS NOT 10M VIEWS??? What a masterpiece. As an engineer this is brain tickle. Excellent work my man!!! ❤❤
for the battle royal at the end: its the miner from 4d miner just beause no one else can move in the fourth dimension so they can dodge any attack by side stepping ana or kata
13:00 "It just sneaks in sometimes" is frankly the only way to explain e without losing your mind, and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone say this sooner.
The big thing missing from the whole "Terrarian vs Steve" debate is that neither of them shows any strain as a result of carrying all that they carry. There's no way to compare their strength as neither one of them gets properly tested by what's available to them in their respective universes. We'd need to see what kind of load would start to slow them down.
@Khaizen10 Minecraft’s world is also technically finite, so that doesn’t mean much, especially since the Terraria water bucket I’m referring to is literally endless.
most of the extra inventory storage items probably dont count BUT maybe the piggy bank could count specifically because even if you are nowhere near a piggy bank you can still spend money stored inside it at merchants, so maybe it could count solely for coins?
This video was very interesting, but I couldn’t understand the true scale of the terrarians strength because I only measure weight in supreme witch calamity plushies
My big complaints are these 2: 1. Fallen Stars are very clearly not meteorites - not just because they look very different from Meteorite ore, but also because of how they behave. Fallen Stars are used to make Mana Crystals and magical potions. They're also used in recipes to enchant worms, arrows, and boomerangs. Couple this with the fact that Fallen Stars originally (as in, WAY back when the game was first released) restored your Mana bar, and I think it's pretty clear that Fallen Stars aren't made of metal, stone, or plasma, but rather some sort of solidified *magic* itself. This is a bit of an issue since we don't know how much magic weighs, but I feel like the equivalent mass-energy of a beachball-sized hunk of concentrated phenomenal cosmic power is probably higher than an equivalent piece of space rock. 2. Saying Piggy Banks, Safes, etc. 'don't count' rings as bullshit to me when not only are Minecraft Bundles allowed, but more glaringly, the physics-breaking pocket dimension that is the Shulker Box is allowed. Shulker Boxes are literally made with material from another dimension to begin with, and they're the only storage items in Minecraft that don't drop their contents when broken, so obviously whatever is inside of them isn't being actively kept in there - just like all the banned Terraria items. Also, one other 'minor' gripe: If you're going to completely leave the realm of inventory mechanics by stacking infinite boats of infinite people on Steve's head or whatever, you might as well do the same and give the Terrarian a Gravitation Potion or a Lucky Horseshoe so the entire concept of mass becomes irrelevant in the first place.
I can answer all 3! I'm not arguing that they're the same meteorites I'm saying they're a different kind of meteorite because "meteorite" is a wide category like "wood" and terraria has lots of different woods! Plus iron-rich meteorites have a long history of being magical in the real world! I'll get around to figuring how much magic weighs in the next part though, I've got a few leads Bundles and shulkers are allowed because they physically store items, since my community decided that ender chests don't count a while ago, I thought it'd be fair to have items that are completely mechanically identical to also not count, those mechanics being: 1. Individual to the player, you cannot use them to pass items to other players 2. Item data not stored with the item, opening a second instance shows the same items all that together heavily implies they operate on pocket dimensions, but I calculated them anyway just in case people wanted to count them! (just make sure to count the ender chest too for fairness) I'm always in favour of people answering the same questions in different ways it'd be silly to pretend there's only one answer to problems like this For the last one you're right that neither of the games actually have an encumbrance mechanic, so however much I can stack on their backs is the max I'm going with! keep in mind that I'm not allowing infinite boats though that'd be against the rules of the challenge, nobody wants the final answer to be "they can both lift the same amount, infinity" I would personally find that boring
piggy banks share their content between all piggy banks and so they act like ender chests. While you can have many shulker boxes with their own specific items inside.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhaactually, terraria does have an encumbering mechanic! And it comes with some interesting implications, like the idea that your trash slot and cursor aren't actually being held by the Terrarian. You see, when the encumbering stone is in your trash slot or cursor (or piggy banks or whatever FURTHER proving they aren't part of your inventory), the effect of the encumbering stone does not occur. Since it seems to be powered by magic, it's still unclear if we treat this as a hard fact, but this does imply a limit to how much the Terrarian can carry! Also, just figured I'd mention it here, you could probably get a range on the weights of both Clorophyte AND Luminite by using their recipes for bullets and arrows. Which means endgame items can be given an estimate for their weight! We might change that platinum armor out soon!
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha can't you calculate the mass of the fallen stars by their velocity? Then use that to calculate how much magic weighs. Also, I don't know exactly how heavy it would be, but you might be able to calculate the density of spooky wood by figuring out the mass of the enemies that are made out of it. Since these enemies are burning (or ejecting fire to be exact) I would bet they don't have a lot of water, if any at all, inside of them. I think you'd be able to figure this out through the sprite sizes, and how much knockback affects them (compared to enemies that you know/can calculate the mass of)
magic probably doesn't have a defined weight, considering the staff of earth can convert mana directly into huge boulders. It would be quite funny to imagine that mana is super heavy though...
In a battle between all of them, in a situation where all of them are at their full potential, the Terrarian would likely win, even accounting for unfavorable scaling towards the Terrarian, mostly because they have infinite flight and infinite ammo high-powered ranged weapons. Even if there's the whole "Terrarian is confined to 2D" thing, therefore preventing him from attacking some of the others, he still could likely win due to thorns and tanking hits. Also, other than the Terrarian and Steve (both of which have thorns and I don't think any others do), the 4D Miner would win just because of the other dimension, which, if used at a high enough level, could allow him to attack the others without getting attacked at all.
That's so cool! A lot of this stuff was very hard to wrap my head around massive props for dealing with that, my exponential decay model is simplified to remove a lot of that stuff, including lowering the importance of vmax quite a bit. So its definitely an approximation, but it's based on simplified models that seem to be well-respected for ballpark estimates, and like I said it's hard to get better without more information
Maybe try ML treasure bags, they drop a fuck ton of money plus they drop weapons. The weapons are all immeasurable (I’m pretty sure), but I think they give more than 10 and they can stack up to 999 at least, meaning inventory slots would be more compact.
i just find it hilarious how this guy has to learn so much for these videos, like alot if things I think alot of people wont even come into contact with, the sheer amount of science used for a videogame is just mindblowing and funny.
Would falling from a great height count as “strength”? Because I know you can get to ludicrous speeds using the floatie, have a portal shoot you back down to the ground, then because you have a horseshoe you don’t take fall damage. but all of that speed didn’t destroy the ground, or the terrarian, so I’d assume they “absorbed” all of that energy and that has to count for something.
Considering end game still struggles against the Empress of Light, Terrarian can't solo Hakurei Reimu utilizing Innate Dream or Son Goku utilizing Ultra Instinct. Autonomous movement and intangibility is just broken.
While the Terrarian is very powerful, there is no way they can win against someone that they can't hit. Against a competent opponent that can move in a higher number of dimensions (4D miner), the best that the Terrarian can hope for is a stalemate. If everyone is constrained to a 3D arena, the Terrarian probably has strong winning chances, but if 4D guy can move/see in 4D, there isn't really a contest.
@SenGaming-105 Through lore, the Calamity Terrarian is actually weaker than the vanilla Terrarian. Though I don't think they get any stronger if you were to base it off of lifting strength instead.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhai mean, the simple option is to say the spine is similar enough to a human spine as the main body is honestly pretty close to that of our terrarian, and then scale its spine based on height, the issue is of course that multiple things drop vertebrae, so we go for the biggest ones i guess? though honestly the heaviest potion is likely to be flask of fire with 3 hellstone or spelunker with 1 platinum unless theres some really massive fish that weighs more than 8ft^3 of platinum ore
@Schmedley-the-Sign-NezhaRelating the vertebrae to only the Face Monster is an inaccuracy because the Blood Crawler, Crimera and Floaty Gross all drop it, all of them having varying masses and sizes. The only way you can analyze it is via real life human vertebraes.
@Golgothebest I don't think any of those exist properly either, and none of them seem very human except maybe the face monsters, so I don't know why I would default to human, I would probably figure out an approximation of each one and go with the heaviest, although considering not all of them are even vertebrates that could be difficult
The math around the food section almost made me cry from fear and horror
I'm lucky to have survived
me personally, it made me cry from fear and hunger.
@DaKingKayden Say that again?
@DaKingKayden "A terrifying presence has entered the room"
@hannd15that again
i love listening to people talk about numbers i don't understand
Magic man using magic words
Truth
funny thing, when a fallen star falls, one of the existing stars in the background visibly falls
i really hope this is true
if true John terraria can canonically carry a galaxy in their pocket
wait ts is true
I remember that being added. It was neat, and now can be used alongside solar fragments to explain that Steve can’t even carry a percent of the Terrarian’s lifting strength (alongside Steve not being as strong without including Minecraft: Dungeons)
I like to believe the fallen star isn't a full, entire star, but instead a fragment of one, and the rest drifts off into space or math idk, but that would still mean it keeps the density of a star lmao
If you have a PDA that weighs 7-something-thousand pounds, you don't have a PDA: you have one of those old NORAD computers from the 60's...
At that point the PDA is also a weapon
when you use the finch staff it creates a bird nest, it should also be counted
my god you're right
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha Those 200 extra grams are absolutely vital to the calculations.
Bird up
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha You can have a full three birds using a bewitching table and a summoning potion, but that's mostly irrelevant: shouldn't mana stars, heart crystals, and heart fruit count towards the terrarian's weight?
@atlasthespy2707 they should, I'll need a part three to weigh magic down the line
Wait what if you stack 9999 Zenith's now since the 1.4.5?
Would the heavy modifier make it heavier?
@EchoBlossom059 duh heavy
The only thing measurable is the copper from the copper shortword, so you’d have to blindly guess for everything else
The portal gun actually multiplies terminal velocity by 3.5, not 2
great catch!
Can we get a redo now that EVERY item in terraria can stack up to 9999. Does that change things?
9999 zeniths
I wonder if possibly a stack of 9999 crates would weigh the most, with their maximum number of contents each, since some of said contents can weigh a lot individually, on top of the crate itself.
Though I suppose several unique items might weigh enough on their own it would outweigh any combination of crate items.
@yeahthatsmeiguess 9999 Drill Containment Units
@yeahthatsmeiguess the only thing in the Zenith made of measurable stuff is the copper shortswor
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Here in 2026. We can now stack weapons, so i imagine 9999 zeniths is the new limit
I didn't think clicking on this video to get a lecture on Terrarian Digestion system and Calculus II applied on Hamburger's time to digest
We take hamburger math very seriously here
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha as we should
how much damage could one deal with an instantaneous 74,00lb shit
the real question
now we know why there is a terraspark toilet
@thatguydownthestreat "Seriously? THIS is what you used the Broken Hero Sword for?"
Yes, Mr. Tooltip, and I did it to save the WORLD.
I read this while on the toilet and I've never nearly died from laughter like this 😭
@コーヒーJelly oh god its a jinx, its going to happen to you now
I think at this point you need to account for the force of gravity that Steve exerts on the world below him, since his carrying capacity is so large
an excellent point!
Your mum so fat... that her weight is zero...
Due to creating her own gravitational pull breaking our standard definition of weight and redefining our concept of the entire video.
Ah, but the amount of mass an object has does not affect how it experiences gravity. (The amount of force)
The terrarian jump and fall boom below colapse in black hole
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha What about the bottomless liquid buckets? There's nothing stating they don't have mass. Of course if we do include these, that would mean we go into the infinities.
Let's not forget how much they can carry in Olympic swimming pools.
....And don't to add the Factorio engineer into that fight
The Terrarian being the Vegeta to Steve's Goku is awesome
It really is the good ending
This is all about to change when the update comes out as armour, tools, and accessories are going to be stackable
Just got jumpscared by my comment getting featured! Thanks man! Great video as usual!
thanks!
You forgot to take into account the weight of the slush blocks themselves. They are not just 11 platinum coins, they are 11 platinum coins AND a bunch of slush (which can be changed to fossil or silt depending of which one is heavier).
He did, he just barely mentioned it
In addition to this you can get things in addition to coins!
@aquilo6661Wait, is there a small possibility that a block of silk or slush gives *everything*?
@Flame_Tusknope
@justcallme400Ah, oh well. That would have made the calcs even tougher XD
Pointing out how stuff like the Souls and Lunar Fragments float and thus don't necessarily weigh anything is a dangerous game, because minecraft blocks also float off the ground when reduced to an item
But Minecraft items still fall if you remove the block below them, whereas lunar fragments and souls don’t
There's obviously some kind of force similar to atomic forces in the real world, that causes the mass of the floor and the items to repel each other, since they fall until close to the floor, then hover.
their floating is a special property! They aren't fixed in space they're actively bobbing bouyantly! blocks in both games "floating" behave more like magnetic levitation where minor changes in air don't affect them
It is rather annoying of him to do this so much. its playing favorites. Theres also the fact thats he delibrately ignoring that MAGIC EXIST in the universe so you can't always trust objects with large magic quantities to behave normally (see shimmer, souls, lunar fragments). then theres the star aspect too which is even more annoying cause no its not a meteorite
@rustygamer1250 I'll get around to weighing the magic don't worry, and we'll revisit the fallen stars if the magic deems it necessary! my favourite is math and math alone
I would win, since I control all of them through my input through their respective games.
my god you're too powerful
but what about the game's cameraman?
And what about the game developer? And the internet provider?
@Golgothebesttheir power is yes. Although the Internet provider is far weaker, it cant withstand the power of free wifi
there is always a bigger fish...
10:29 According to all known laws of Terraria aviation, there is no way a Finch should be able to fly. Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground. The finch, of course, flies anyway because finches don't care what Terrarians think is impossible.
holy shit i just got flashbanged seeing you here what the FUCK
@macdoodleer Hello. From where
0:42 not been the kindest INDEED because I was robbed of this video for 11 days
4:30 is some Mandela bs, I totally remember being able to put coins in the ammo slot
You can in most mods
Maybe you could in 1.2?? I swear you could too
Coins are ammo for the coin gun so it makes sense
Two things:
1. Still hoping for weight in negative average helium party balloons, and
2. I think the miner from 4D miner would win a battle royal all by himself, at least as long as he has the 4D glasses to navigate. The ability to reach out from another dimension directly into (a plane of) your brain while bypassing the skull, and being able to hang out completely safe in another space until you have the opportunity to be able to, is just impossible to counteract with any force or magic constrained to stay within the same dimensional plane as it's user.
What about Minecraft’s nether and end?
hey that's pretty cool I didn't know he could do that
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha it's actually part of the entire point of 4D Miner in the first place, the 4D Miner player also has to fight enemies that do exactly this so it shows that the 4D Miner player knows how to do this
IDK how 4d works but I'm pretty sure if you high ball the terrarians speed then, the space drone that can appear in space can go (this is based off a random Steve vs terrain video) across multiple galaxy's, then the space ships that you fight come in one second accounting for the fact that the drone must have traveled far already back to home or at least close, so this at least sounds like a stand still at best but IDK how the powers of 4d miner work.
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Good call on the coin drops. It doesn't matter how impossibly unlikely having an inventory full of 11-coin drops is; the important thing is that if you did, the Terrarian would be able to carry them!
Seraph from vintage story could hypothetically win because they can canonically time travel and respawn.
But the miner from 4d miner can just slip into the 4th dimension and mine away their insides...
Life crystals which he eats and then life fruits
we could also consider every shimmer upgrade then, since they're all similarly consumable
I always knew finches were the best summon!
I'm failing AP calc, I came to RUclips to get away from it, it seems I cannot escape
Calc will find you, calc finds us all
i didnt think you could improve on the previous terraria video, but here we are
My powers of hyperfixation know no bounds
Well sub +1
16:40 Ichor has two meanings, the blood of the gods from Greek mythology, or… pus.
If we assume it’s the later, you need the weight of… a lot of pus. I’m not googling that.
How DARE RUclips hide this from me for 18 seconds
The audacity
12:14, could i get the paper(s) you read for the digestion research, lol? I'm just really curious lol
I love how I instantly noticed he used pre new war fortuna from Warframe as the background image during the final weight calculation
It's implied that the majority of the Starbound Protector's inventory is compressed into their own matter manipulator. So, they probably are pretty weak to begin with compared to the other options out there, but it's definitely worth humoring how much they can carry if it's all hauled onto their back.
im not the smartest but wouldnt compression keep the original weight of an object?
Soooo Terraria 1.4.5 makes every single item stackable...
This is shockingly well produced and I am hooked
If we base Steves carrying capacity on how quickly his arm gets tired from holding a spear then he is far weaker than the terrarian
Truly steve is nerfing himself, what could be his reason
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhavery heavy spear
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha maybe spears are just _that_ heavy
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha The terrarian can only hold the spear item for 1 minute before it dissapears, so both super-humans are weak to spears
@Schmedley-the-Sign-NezhaPhysics. With conservation of mass, most of the weight is focused on the end of the spear. He can lift a lot of weight in a deadlift or distributed somewhat evenly, but the sheer difference of weight between the wood and the metal point throws him off.
Great work. I really like these kinds of videos.
knowing nothing at all about terraria makes this series extremely entertaining lmao. my opinion for the battle royale is that the 4d miner would win. now i know nearly nothing about any of the mentioned games other than minecraft but considering that the 4d miner could just hide in a different slice of 4d space none of the other combatants could reach them, and they probably have somewhat good stats considering the similarity to minecraft. also could you include both large and small blahaj as measurements next time please :3
Yeah I have no idea how to handle 4D matter, but that's what people wanted so I'll have to give it a shot
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha it's really funny because all the other games are thinner than paper from a 4D perspective
I feel that the Noita (also known as Minä) from Noita would win, due to being able to create a wand that can instantly destroy nigh anything and the gods themselves fear.
@The_Black_Cat_4 Yeah... especially since endgame noita can have literally infinite health, but if you don't count post-ending noita (the effect is presumably not on the noita herself but on the world, so it probably doesn't matter) then there's basically no upper limit to max health - you just have to decide when to stop. It's definitely not possible to survive an optimised Noita wand. Probably not even in 4d, to be honest.
I would say the terrarium can beat the 49er because he summons many creatures that are outside of his dimensional capabilities. Which the terraria world is technically 3-D we only see it from a 2-D perspective. So the terraria fights at minimum one fourth dimensional being and wins.
For the shape of the fallen star, I would probably use a 'small stellated dodecahedron'. It seems like a fitting star-shape, and it looks very similar to the sprite, which seems to have a point sticking out towards the camera in the centre of its face.
I approve of this shape theory. Because its a cool shape
Seems like a cool idea, like I actually wish it looked like that. But I think if it was supposed to look like that it would've gotten an updated sprite by now.
I like it!
couldn't the 4d miner guy just hide in the 4th dimension until there's like one left
took the words right out of my mouth in the food section
Using inner tube logic, you are actually able to calculate the density of both water and air on whatever planet this all takes place in. I’m not smart enough to give you the answers but I’m pretty sure both air and water is extremely dense for the inner tube to even work under these weights. This might have a side effect of getting to stupidly heavy water bottles but hey I don’t quite know.
6:47 I mentioned this in your last video, but lava rockets would be way heavier than fallen stars, even with the new value. Since they can release up to 21 blocks of lava, it totals up to 39.854 pounds per rocket, which can be stacked up to 9999 and can be placed in ammo slots.
I must've missed that before sorry friend, I'll check it out
5:57 I think the Fallen Star might be a Tetrataenite-rich pallasite. Do you think this would impact your estimation of its weight?
Wow that's an incredibly specific answer, from some base level research looks like that would probably make it closer to 300-400 lbm, so a little lighter than the current stars
What made you think of it?
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha Tetrataenite can, in a certain light, have a yellow-ish hue, like the Fallen Star. And pallasite meteorites are somewhat rare, just like a Fallen star (I think).
@EnigmaticBackhand69 Fallen Stars aren't really rare, they just only appear at night, but also vanish during the day if not in your inventory or a chest.
@ChaoticJesterAlright. Thanks for enlightening me 😊
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha nebula fragment is heavier though
21:55
The Seraph is splattered against the pavement by any of the others simply looking at them ❤
true but also the seraph does respawn in cannon, so.. maybe out of sheer persistence they could win?
Seraph: "I have seen fourteen million, two hundred and seventy seven timelines to see if I achieve victory."
Steve: "And how many timelines was that?"
Seraph: **Pulls out temporal gear** "This one."
14:16 casually flexing he took calculus in sophomore year
is that a flex when is normal
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha 11th or 12th usually
@norlore5216 oh sorry every day I remember high school even less
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhaif you are in normal classes you take pre-calc in 12th grade and no calculus or derivatives until college 😭
WHO IS TAKING CALCULUS IN HIGH SCHOOL?!?
The true copper shortsword and the 11 terraprisma's slice through everyone at a range
Still need to count the encumbering stone. The minimum weight of one encumbering stone is 1 pound heavier than the heaviest possible non-encumbering stone inventory, so we can add a lot by filling most of our slots with them. And actually, they come in sandstone crates, so you need to figure out the heaviest possible sandstone crate and fill the inventory with those.
Banger video as always!
how many steves can the terraian lift
almost 10 trillion!
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha with or without the factorial?
@mayankthakur5341 ah you got me, I was excited about the 10 trillion
20:59 there was a your mama joke in there. I could feel it
The phasesaber ignores 100% of armor, so if you give the terraria that they would destroy Steve.
So do Minecraft potions
@100SideDicethey deal flat damage though, and a potion is easier to dodge when you can fly, than a 50mph+ person slashing you with a whole lihghtsaber
@mathiasjonstang7247tipped arrows
@100SideDiceI dont think tipped arrows would work if tge terrarian can technically dodge empress of light
@closedslinky4373 Canonically no damage too
specifically your computer as a unit of measurment
this guy took his math teachers seriously
I think he learned most of his knowledge on his own lol
The 1.4.5 stacking change looking around the corner
There's a massive issue with this video. Completely unmissable. HOW IS THIS NOT 10M VIEWS??? What a masterpiece. As an engineer this is brain tickle.
Excellent work my man!!! ❤❤
Also when creating your character you can make it heavyer or lighter and he also carries a large world map
12:36 canto 8 limbus company reference
I'm not getting it
@ashlyn-6614bolus is from a game called limbus
@Sinner8Ishmael your time stamp was way early, also limbus didnt invent boluses
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for the battle royal at the end: its the miner from 4d miner just beause no one else can move in the fourth dimension so they can dodge any attack by side stepping ana or kata
13:25 Called the WHAT?
The Bolus
13:00 "It just sneaks in sometimes" is frankly the only way to explain e without losing your mind, and I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone say this sooner.
The big thing missing from the whole "Terrarian vs Steve" debate is that neither of them shows any strain as a result of carrying all that they carry.
There's no way to compare their strength as neither one of them gets properly tested by what's available to them in their respective universes.
We'd need to see what kind of load would start to slow them down.
The humble spear:
Steve can hold a water bucket which is infinite water
@Khaizen10 I mean, so can the Terrarian, and with more slots to mold it as well.
@gdmayhem3056 technically the terraria water bucket can’t go infinitely because the world is finite
@Khaizen10 Minecraft’s world is also technically finite, so that doesn’t mean much, especially since the Terraria water bucket I’m referring to is literally endless.
most of the extra inventory storage items probably dont count BUT maybe the piggy bank could count specifically because even if you are nowhere near a piggy bank you can still spend money stored inside it at merchants, so maybe it could count solely for coins?
hey that's a fun idea
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhacould include money bank/piggy and the portal from the old one army
8:26
I like those odds
LETS GO GAMBLING
Measure it in hotdogs pls I don’t understand those weird units
Hotdogs³
Lol didn't expect this, also the food section is scary
This video was very interesting, but I couldn’t understand the true scale of the terrarians strength because I only measure weight in supreme witch calamity plushies
finally, horrors JUST outside my comprehension!
This common is only for your algorithm boost
ai, gaming, terraria, new year, 67, stocks
thank you for including djgungelskog measuriements, i have one so i think i know how heavy that is now
Yes he will beat Steve. Stomp even. Curb. Atomize
why the hell is the stuff from my biochemistry class coming up in my silly terraria video
My big complaints are these 2:
1. Fallen Stars are very clearly not meteorites - not just because they look very different from Meteorite ore, but also because of how they behave. Fallen Stars are used to make Mana Crystals and magical potions. They're also used in recipes to enchant worms, arrows, and boomerangs. Couple this with the fact that Fallen Stars originally (as in, WAY back when the game was first released) restored your Mana bar, and I think it's pretty clear that Fallen Stars aren't made of metal, stone, or plasma, but rather some sort of solidified *magic* itself. This is a bit of an issue since we don't know how much magic weighs, but I feel like the equivalent mass-energy of a beachball-sized hunk of concentrated phenomenal cosmic power is probably higher than an equivalent piece of space rock.
2. Saying Piggy Banks, Safes, etc. 'don't count' rings as bullshit to me when not only are Minecraft Bundles allowed, but more glaringly, the physics-breaking pocket dimension that is the Shulker Box is allowed. Shulker Boxes are literally made with material from another dimension to begin with, and they're the only storage items in Minecraft that don't drop their contents when broken, so obviously whatever is inside of them isn't being actively kept in there - just like all the banned Terraria items.
Also, one other 'minor' gripe: If you're going to completely leave the realm of inventory mechanics by stacking infinite boats of infinite people on Steve's head or whatever, you might as well do the same and give the Terrarian a Gravitation Potion or a Lucky Horseshoe so the entire concept of mass becomes irrelevant in the first place.
I can answer all 3!
I'm not arguing that they're the same meteorites I'm saying they're a different kind of meteorite because "meteorite" is a wide category like "wood" and terraria has lots of different woods! Plus iron-rich meteorites have a long history of being magical in the real world! I'll get around to figuring how much magic weighs in the next part though, I've got a few leads
Bundles and shulkers are allowed because they physically store items, since my community decided that ender chests don't count a while ago, I thought it'd be fair to have items that are completely mechanically identical to also not count, those mechanics being:
1. Individual to the player, you cannot use them to pass items to other players
2. Item data not stored with the item, opening a second instance shows the same items
all that together heavily implies they operate on pocket dimensions, but I calculated them anyway just in case people wanted to count them! (just make sure to count the ender chest too for fairness)
I'm always in favour of people answering the same questions in different ways it'd be silly to pretend there's only one answer to problems like this
For the last one you're right that neither of the games actually have an encumbrance mechanic, so however much I can stack on their backs is the max I'm going with! keep in mind that I'm not allowing infinite boats though that'd be against the rules of the challenge, nobody wants the final answer to be "they can both lift the same amount, infinity" I would personally find that boring
piggy banks share their content between all piggy banks and so they act like ender chests. While you can have many shulker boxes with their own specific items inside.
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhaactually, terraria does have an encumbering mechanic! And it comes with some interesting implications, like the idea that your trash slot and cursor aren't actually being held by the Terrarian. You see, when the encumbering stone is in your trash slot or cursor (or piggy banks or whatever FURTHER proving they aren't part of your inventory), the effect of the encumbering stone does not occur. Since it seems to be powered by magic, it's still unclear if we treat this as a hard fact, but this does imply a limit to how much the Terrarian can carry! Also, just figured I'd mention it here, you could probably get a range on the weights of both Clorophyte AND Luminite by using their recipes for bullets and arrows. Which means endgame items can be given an estimate for their weight! We might change that platinum armor out soon!
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha can't you calculate the mass of the fallen stars by their velocity? Then use that to calculate how much magic weighs.
Also, I don't know exactly how heavy it would be, but you might be able to calculate the density of spooky wood by figuring out the mass of the enemies that are made out of it. Since these enemies are burning (or ejecting fire to be exact) I would bet they don't have a lot of water, if any at all, inside of them.
I think you'd be able to figure this out through the sprite sizes, and how much knockback affects them (compared to enemies that you know/can calculate the mass of)
magic probably doesn't have a defined weight, considering the staff of earth can convert mana directly into huge boulders.
It would be quite funny to imagine that mana is super heavy though...
awesome video. this is a comment of more than nine words to help out the video. love this series
In a battle between all of them, in a situation where all of them are at their full potential, the Terrarian would likely win, even accounting for unfavorable scaling towards the Terrarian, mostly because they have infinite flight and infinite ammo high-powered ranged weapons. Even if there's the whole "Terrarian is confined to 2D" thing, therefore preventing him from attacking some of the others, he still could likely win due to thorns and tanking hits. Also, other than the Terrarian and Steve (both of which have thorns and I don't think any others do), the 4D Miner would win just because of the other dimension, which, if used at a high enough level, could allow him to attack the others without getting attacked at all.
Also, the Terrarian isn’t actually confined to 2D, that’s just a game mechanic.
My best understood unit of measurement it dust mites
You should use Steve’s max carrying capacity as a unit of measurement
That's so cool! A lot of this stuff was very hard to wrap my head around massive props for dealing with that, my exponential decay model is simplified to remove a lot of that stuff, including lowering the importance of vmax quite a bit. So its definitely an approximation, but it's based on simplified models that seem to be well-respected for ballpark estimates, and like I said it's hard to get better without more information
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha🤔?
@Art3misTheDoge oh this was meant for an entirely different comment sorry, wonder how that happened
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezha😅all good
Yes took the words right outta my mouth
For Steve math, you should measure it in how many times what terrarian can carry. It will be much more understandable.
doing a video on vintage story would be cool
Maybe try ML treasure bags, they drop a fuck ton of money plus they drop weapons. The weapons are all immeasurable (I’m pretty sure), but I think they give more than 10 and they can stack up to 999 at least, meaning inventory slots would be more compact.
Weapons can’t stack
@ShazamKing the treasure bags can and each of them contains weapons
im amazed by how much you dedicates yourself into this, just because of some silly numbers on a video game. And I love it
I never expected a 4d miner reference here. You should see how much weight he could carry!
man do I have some stuff to figure out for that one
New update increased number of stackables.
now that weapons are stackable does the weight go up?
we'll have to see!
i just find it hilarious how this guy has to learn so much for these videos, like alot if things I think alot of people wont even come into contact with, the sheer amount of science used for a videogame is just mindblowing and funny.
the terrarian and steve can both hold a water bucket which can fill infinite water bottles, so they both can carry infinite weight
Boring
That's literally disqualified for the purposes of this video, did you even watch?
i have an OBSESSION with starbound and it has been SO long since someone has even made a reference to it thank you for this once in a year experience
Would falling from a great height count as “strength”? Because I know you can get to ludicrous speeds using the floatie, have a portal shoot you back down to the ground, then because you have a horseshoe you don’t take fall damage. but all of that speed didn’t destroy the ground, or the terrarian, so I’d assume they “absorbed” all of that energy and that has to count for something.
yeah I'm not sure how to interpret that either
Magic turns kinetic energy into magical energy?
thank you for this insight Nezha
I shall now continue to crack open your relics to assemble your primed form
The terrerian is 3D!!!!
He is gonna ignore you. Also ignore nebula fragments
i did not expect to see it in the result. wysi.
I'm sorry, I didn't understand the final weight total, could you please convert it into U.S. dollar bills in weight? Thanks.
8:19 hearing you struggle to pronounce this brought me joy
End game terrarrian wins vs anyone.
Considering end game still struggles against the Empress of Light, Terrarian can't solo Hakurei Reimu utilizing Innate Dream or Son Goku utilizing Ultra Instinct. Autonomous movement and intangibility is just broken.
end game calamity terrarian:
While the Terrarian is very powerful, there is no way they can win against someone that they can't hit.
Against a competent opponent that can move in a higher number of dimensions (4D miner), the best that the Terrarian can hope for is a stalemate.
If everyone is constrained to a 3D arena, the Terrarian probably has strong winning chances, but if 4D guy can move/see in 4D, there isn't really a contest.
@SenGaming-105 Through lore, the Calamity Terrarian is actually weaker than the vanilla Terrarian. Though I don't think they get any stronger if you were to base it off of lifting strength instead.
@Magneticals hmm
wasn't that new lore
In old lore they were stronger
We now have weapon stacking so even more possibilities
16:40 did he really just ask for the real world equivalent of the vertebrae? A REAL THING, and he's asking for the real world equivalent XD
I don't know what a face monster is is there a real face monster whos spine I could measure
@Schmedley-the-Sign-Nezhai mean, the simple option is to say the spine is similar enough to a human spine as the main body is honestly pretty close to that of our terrarian, and then scale its spine based on height, the issue is of course that multiple things drop vertebrae, so we go for the biggest ones i guess? though honestly the heaviest potion is likely to be flask of fire with 3 hellstone or spelunker with 1 platinum unless theres some really massive fish that weighs more than 8ft^3 of platinum ore
@Moonlite_Kitsune we could do that!
@Schmedley-the-Sign-NezhaRelating the vertebrae to only the Face Monster is an inaccuracy because the Blood Crawler, Crimera and Floaty Gross all drop it, all of them having varying masses and sizes. The only way you can analyze it is via real life human vertebraes.
@Golgothebest I don't think any of those exist properly either, and none of them seem very human except maybe the face monsters, so I don't know why I would default to human, I would probably figure out an approximation of each one and go with the heaviest, although considering not all of them are even vertebrates that could be difficult
currently thinking about the encumbering stone