It would be interesting to take the exact same shot with all lenses, it makes spotting the differences much easier. I did the comparison once with four 50's and the results were quite illuminating.
I have owned the Canon and the Minolta and still own the Super Takumar but my favourite has to be the Konica Hexanon 57mm f1.4. It’s as sharp as a tack with lovely dreamy out of focus areas. It also provides bubbles till Tuesday. It has an all-metal construction and is built like the proverbial. It’s also aesthetically pleasing with a matt black finish and a silver ring featuring the hyper focal distance scale. I recommend you try one if you haven’t already done so. Thanks for the video, it was very informative.
First time I read from someone this lens has anything special in sharpness. I rather read it shines bc it's something else & so different than a sharp one, completely at the opposite side of a K 50 1.7 & even a K 52 1.8. Report us if u have some material. I like surprises, and I think too it's a fine tool by seeing some results. My best Ks up to now are 2 35-100 2.8, but for video applications on crop sensor, not full frame.
Another nice video thanks . Back when when my Nikkor 50 f1.4 came out of the box for the very first time I put a Hoya Skylight 1B on to protect that beautiful pinky looking coating and I never even thought about the natural colours of the lens being on the cool side. The biggest factor was the film in that regard, and I veered away from Kodachrome and Agfachrome and Ektachrome towards Fujichrome which was cheaper and I thought warmer, making the world look a better place, then came Provia and Velvia - hallelujah. But since I went digital I’ve never managed to get anything quite the same. So back then, for me, it was probably the choice of film and filter that determined the look of the world more than the lens - and there wasn’t anything like your great videos to make such interesting comparisons. I sense a Fuji camera coming on with the simulations to take me back, unless the brand new FM/FE inspired Z-fc drags me back to the mirrorless future first🤔 by the way, one reason for the increased price over some of the others - the oldest Nikkor still fits Nikon dslr today, and allows easy Aperture priority metering on the enthusiast and pro range of bodies, so they’re still useful for those who haven’t yet gone mirrorless. Last week on holiday my new Sigma Art zoom failed but the holiday was saved by an old 28 2.8Ai 😀
Great review. Just ordered a Canon FDn 50mm f1.4 for video work and this video was incredibly helpful in that decision. And the most laid back and relaxing delivery of the content on RUclips. Subscribed. Thank you. = )
Agreed. In terms of performance-price, the Canon FD 50/1.4 and Nikkor 50/1.4 are IMO tops. Often, these gems can be purchased with the bodies for bargain prices. In fact, it is usually when they are paired with the bodies that the lens value goes less noticed. As always, taking special care to observe lens condition...which is a bit riskier/more difficult with the online combo purchases.
I have an earlier SC version of the Nikon, it's a little soft wide open, stop it down a little and it gets sharp & contrasty. Keep a lookout, there are deals on Nikon glass. I really like the images from the Minolta!
I only have one 50mm f1. 4, a Nikkor s-c non ai on my wonderful Nikkormat ft2 all black camera. Focuses to 0.6m and built really well. I enjoy using the camera with this lens and love the results. I have a Yashica fxd quartz with a 50mm f2 ml lens which focuses to 0.5 is my smallest and lightest slr which also has AE which if I am lazy I enjoy. £12 from a charity shop. Excellent. If I had the 1.4 I would have to carry extra weight. My Pentax spotmatic with the 50mm 1.8 is my favourite all rounder. Classic.
I shot on a Yashica range finder with the 1.4 lens for years until it was stolen, then it was a Minolta Hi-Matic with a 1.4(?) until I got a K-1000. Still have both. Over the years I have collected many vintage lens and over the last 2-years went on a vintage collecting binge of lenses and cameras. Now because RUclips presenters feature these vintage lenses and cameras, lenses I usually picked up from free to $5-$25, and cameras from free to $30-$50, are now out of reasonable reach. Such as it is, but RUclips presenters do and important service, especially for those new to photography, and help to preserve, even grow the hobby, ensuring that MFG's keep designing and making new equipment. Even the price of film is coming down and is more available due to the increased interest in film. Thanks for the trip through the old, but great vintage glass as I think I have most of them somewhere in all these boxes on the shelves. Some are still waiting for my attention at the work bench, as fungus and dust inhabit many of them.
Yes, I have the Minolta 58mm, Canon FD 50mm SSC, and Pentax 50mm (8 element version). I agree with your assessment. I’d add my Minolta Rokkor-X PG 50mm 1.4 is even more of what Minolta does well and perhaps better background blur. It’s one of my favorites. I often use the Pentax for black and white. Keep up the good work on these videos. My wife and I enjoy them!
Thanks for another great video. The f1.4 lenses have their benefits, I suppose. They certainly have the cachet of being the best of their day. The fastest lens I have is an f1.8. Even an f1.8 in my experience as a rank amateur photography hobbyist is that when shot wide open, the depth of field is so shallow that it can actually be detrimental. For example my cat's eyes might be in focus but the ears and whickers are blurry. Same with a closeup of a flower. I need to stop down to get everything in focus. For what I shoot, a f1.4 lens would be unnecessary and too expensive for what I need. For me f1.8 is fast enough although an f1.4 stopped down to f1.8 might be sharper. Thanks again and I'll look forward to your next video.
The canon LTM 50mm 1.4 is another outstanding lens in this category …. i have a feeling you’d really love it too - gives some pretty wild bokeh. surprised you’ve never covered the Canon range of leica thread lenses, they seem right up your alley.
I sold my Canon FD 50 and bought the older LTM variety. LOVE IT! Became my favourite portrait lens on a Fuji mirrorless instantly. Excellent as the FD is, I agree with Nigel's assessment that it behaves more like a modern lens
Most of Canon's LTM lenses are currently underrated and undervalued. Surprised that they're inexpensive for essentially a Leica M mount compatible lens with a simple adapter.
Another great video! Yashica lenses were always very underrated as they lived in the shadow of Zeiss. The cameras were the same, Yashica was the Toyota to CONTAX's Lexus and they were excellent. Yashica ML lenses offer good value for anyone with a C/Y mount camera and are much more than just poverty lenses for people who can't afford Zeiss.
Absolutely, they’re very nice in their own right! And having had both a fancy Lexus and a simple Toyota, I preferred the Toyota! Neither took good photographs though.
I agree with you that your Yashica and Minolta lenses have fantastic colors. After watching this video, I'm definitely going to try to have my GAF labeled, Tomioka made, 55mm 1.4 lens fixed!
I adore your videos. Tons of unique content. You definitely activated a vintage lens maniac inside me (to the bitter grief of my wife) and helped to navigate through this ( _sometimes_ ) not so inviting world. But, just FYI, I watch all of your videos at 1.5x speed, pausing for photos. Probably I'm too _millennial_
How timely, I just picked up a Canon FD 50mm f1.4 a couple of days ago. I have a pretty decent collection of 50mm vintage lenses, and that Canon surprised me with its sharpness wide open; haven't seen anything like that in my other vintage lenses. Its blur is also fantastic, even stopped down. The copy I have also just happens to have perfectly damped focusing. It does have color fringing that doesn't go away as fast stopped down as my other favorites, but that's irrelevant if shooting B&W.
Thanks for the insights and the beautiful sample shots. I stopped here and there to take a closer look at the pictures and then forgot about the technical aspects.
Got the canon fd, can't wait for it to arrive! I'm dabbling into oldie lenses
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Another great topic Nigel. I own 3 lenses of your set : the Zuiko, the Canon and the Minolta. I use the Minolta as an impressive macro lens by using an FD/55mm inverter. It is possible to focus 2/3 cm from the subject (I use a Canon New F1, A-1 and an Oly OM-10 MkII with a FD/M43 speed booster + the inverter).
Hi. Another typical example where less is better. If you were looking for the "blurry thing" and are not happy with the Yashica ML 50mm f/1.4, then the Yashica ML 50mm f/1.7 is also a "Zeiss clone". The optical construction (6 lenses in 5 groups) is very similar to that of the Zeiss Planar 50mm f/1.7. The f/1.7 gives swirly results very similar to those of the Biotar or the Helios 58mm lenses. For half the price of the f/1.4 lens.
I bet a lot of us are using crop sensor cameras instead of full frame digital cameras which means a vintage 50mm lens is really essentially a telephoto lens. For my camera it calculates to an 80mm lens (crop factor 1.6). A 28mm vintage lens calculates to a 45mm lens which gives you a close approximation to the old film slr set-up with a 50mm lens. There are a lot of nice 28mm f/2.8 lenses out there. I have one that works very well.
I'm so lost and indecisive what vintage lens to get. I have a canon rebel sl3, crop censor. You have a point, and tbh, I wanted to get a vintage lens that excels in low contrast, desaturated look, that old feel not overly sharp but not soft either, that 80s vibe of film days. I keep hearing issues about breech lock, half clicks and full clicks, light leaks, radioactive stuff, and now that you mentioned this, it's turr, essentially a 50 mm gonna be a telephoto lens. I just want a vintage lens I can use in almost any situation, botanical, street, urban, landscape, toy or product photography. I figured 1.4 lens would excel in low light situations, and be great for portraits, a vintage lens. So any recommendations on lens? And recommendations on adapters. My head is a swivel between canon fd, pentax, Olympus, Minolta, others. I wish there was a article showing what each type of look each cameras get Please help me with your experience and suggestions
@@tylerfields2368 I have an older Canon 600D which is similar to your camera. The vintage lenses I've been using are a Tokina 28mm f/2.8 and an Olympus 50mm f/1.8. Both are fine lenses. They are both very sharp. I'm finding that I go back to the Tokina more often though. It's great for flower close up photos. I've been using auto-ISO on my camera (my camera can set range limits on this). That way I can concentrate on the f-stop, focusing and shutter speed. With digital cameras ISO and graininess are not the concern they were with film. To tell you the truth, I'm not sure going to f/1.4 is worth the additional money. You're unlikely to be operating much at that aperture anyway. It would be best to put the money into a good quality lens.
Very nice review. I really like the Minolta 58 / 1.4 there are 3 or 4 versions, the autorokkor is earlier than the last two versions (MC), I have the first version of the MC, many say that the second is better although the optical design is the same . I think MCs have a bit better contrast at f 1.4 due to better coating.
I purchased a beat up olympus 50 f1.4, with separation at edges of lens groups, just to give it a try. It's a wonderful lens with great colors, is very sharp with extension tubes, and (maybe due to separation) has just enough highlight glow to add that special something. I much prefer it to my pentax 50 f1.4 (sharper, but flatter colors and a 'clinical' look to my eye). You should check out mamiya sekor m42 lenses, they are full of character and a lot of fun to use. Thanks for another great video!
We really look forward to Sundays, and a new Zenography video. Would loved to have seen a Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm Prakticar lens in with this group of tine optics.
The CZJ f1.4 Pancolar, as fitted to the Pentacon Super, was, in fact, a 55mm optic, they are out there, but are hugely expensive. The CZJ 50mm f1.4 Prakticar optic is much more affordable. It was available in two versions, one of which contained Thorium. There is a German website which gives details of the design brief, and it's very high quality construction. This lens was offered with Praktica 'B' series cameras.
Ah ha. I get what you mean by harsh blur, I quite like it, the way it pushes in front of the subject, giving a 2 step perspective. I know I have a yashika camera, wondering what lens it came with, if it was a removable, might be a rangefinder. A top 5 harshist lenses video would get me on eBay.
I have acquired quite a few nifty-fifties (50~58mm) in the 1.2-1.4 ultra fast to fast range. The 1.4's are often the best bang for the buck, IMHO. My favorite vintage glass in this category...the Super Takumar (7 element) 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/1.4, Nikkor 55/1.2, Jupiter-3 50/1.5, Canon FD 50/1.4 (chrome lip), Sears (Tomioka) 55/1.4. No issue for me as it relates to the venerable Thoriated glass...I am well aware of the radioactivity (former nuclear engineer and CRA on a nuclear powered sub) and know the exposure is insignificant when the lens is used as designed.
@@zenography7923 The 55mm f2.8 are quite rare and also based on a zeiss design I think. I paid £100 for mine buy it now on Ebay, but they seem to have doubled in price since. With the Yashica f1.4 you said you found the bokeh harsh. I quite like strong or harsh bokeh in certain circumstances. Did you try just stopping it down to f2 and see what difference that made? That should also eliminate any issues with vignetting completely.
An excellent description of the characteristics of each lens! Tell me Is it better to buy a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens with an SSC signature? And how much better will the FD 50mm 1.2 SSC version be?
Sorry you didn't have a chance to shoot with the Konica Hexanon 50mm f1.4 -- a really nice lens. Exceptionally sharp & with the traditional Konica color signature. Should you run across one... do not hesitate!
@@zenography7923 good hunting! :) As well, do keep your eye out for the 50mm f1.7 -- a truly exceptional lens! -- & the 40mm f1.8 pancake lens, which is fairly easily found & quite wonderful -- you may be familiar with it...? Love your channel, your attitude, your way of exploring.... Thanks!
Thanks for this comparison - lots of work behind a film like this. I'm addicted to Pentax old glass and have a nice 50mm f1.7 SMC which came with my ME Super back in the early 1980s but the Yashica 50mm 1.4 has a nice look too. I'm trading in my modern Sigma 50mm f1.4 EX DG HSM (towards a Sony A7 body). Don't like the ultra sharp, gritty look from the Sigma and it also weighs about 2lbs. Keep up the good work - much appreciated and a Sunday treat ;-)
Fantastic set of photographs, Nigel, and good to see that the lens info is included, it helps immensely. In the 70's I shot Nikon film and I agree with you that Nikon's pallete is on the cooler side of the spectrum, couple that with shooting Ektachrome slides and the world turned blue, lol. It was said, back in the day, that if you shot portraits and weddings the camera to have was a Canon, if you were a photojournalist you shot Nikon. Of course, film wasn't a variable so the difference had to be in the lenses. I have a couple of the lenses you test in this video (the Nikon and the Pentax) - these lenses were, of course, classed in the professional end of the market and it shows, in image quality and construction. I am taken, however, by the Minolts 58mm f1.4. The colours from that lens are second to none, in my opinion; it is the perfect focal length for use on APSC sensors, getting you as close tothe magical 85mm portrait focal length as it is possible to get. I really must look out for one. I can hear my wallet squealing as I type this :-) Great video, thank you, Sir. George
Thanks George, glad you enjoyed it! The Minolta 58 can often be found quite cheaply - I'm not sure why, but with a little patience you should find a good one. Good luck!
Have to save this for when my granddaughter goes for her nap I shoot Pentax on film, XM + super program, and adapt to fujifilm. Thanks for another video.
I was going to finally spring (buy) for a Nikon 85mm f2 ais lens from EBay, that costed 250.00 dollars altogether. But then I watched Ted Forbes video about owning a lens for years, went to use it one day. Only to find insect was inside it! He didn't know how it got there, but said on rare occasions did it show up on the image. After that video changed my mind on buying any vintage or used lens. It might have bedbugs in there!
Purchase your lens from a reputable seller like KEH. They inspect and warranty their products for 180 days. I always buy the additional warranty as well so that if I have any issues, they'll either fix or totally replace my purchase. It costs a little more, but it gives me peace of mind.
I have Canon 50mm 1,4 and Zuiko 55mm 1,2 also Fujica 50mm 2,0, using them in different situations, but i like them all. I do really like black&white photografing, so i suggest testing these lenses with b&w comparing other optics. Otherwise why not testing optics only as colour fotography?
Another wonderful segment. Simply wonderful. So... I have taken the lens off of a few parts grade Yashica Electro 35's and mounted the Yashinon DX 1.7/45mm lens to a focusing helical with a Sony mount for the A7. The images have the color pop you so eloquently discuss. It really does stand in stark contrast to the Nikkor lenses of the era, which are surgical, yet subdued. I recently got the Minolta 1.4/58mm and am really looking forward to seeing what I can create with it. One more note on the Yashinon DX 1.7/45mm... I mounted one on a 58mm helical so it became a macro lens that only focuses within about 1.7 meters. It may be my favorite lens for close-up work.
I would also like to add that I appreciate that you focus on wonderful glass that is available at affordable price points. it's wonderful to be able to experiment with a new piece of kit for very little cash.
That sounds like a really interesting project! Was it difficult to mount the lens at the right distance from the sensor to get the full focussing range?
@@zenography7923 I would send you one. I dont care if it makes an appearance in a video. It would simply be nice to share with you. You have shared so much with us. It took some time to do the first one, but then it got simple.
@@zenography7923 sure thing. Although my X pro2 is starting to do the thing , it wants you to turn the camera on and off after every other picture.. I think it's mechanical shutter
In 1976 german photographer Günther Richter conducted an mtf-test between the Canon FD 1,4 / 50mm s.s.c. and the Leica 2,0 50mm. The test setup was set at Rodenstock with the then most accurate technology. The Canon won.
Character, warmth, an organic look,…this old beautys show you the 70th and the 80th! The modern lenses are just calculated to be fast and more faster… instead of showing you personality or some art… A collection of these lenses will react different on different modern cameras I think. Today I use the Pentax and two Nikon on my GH5 and GH5s, but I went the next logic step. I bought an old Nikon F3 and shot on b/w film and develop it in my bathroom and scan it with my GH5 and a Nikon 55 micro lens….awesome!
I am familiar with and love the colors from Minolta (which I have) but Pentax pastel got me by surprise! Anyway, it surely depends also on sensor. Now, I would test them also on X-Trans sensor from Fujifilm. I mean, would Minolta look as beautiful on Fijifilm sensor? Then what about Pentax? And so on... Thank you for the presentation!
I have an aps-c camera and trying to find the equivalent minimum docus distance with adapted lenses...seems like faster lenses are needed for aps-c, to get the same results as full frame
I think color itself doesn't matter, I can produce whatever color I want in post production. The built quality, sharpness, rendition and the focus ring feeling is my concern.
You're spot on for the Minolta Rokkor 58 1.4 PF , it's my prefered lens for now , though I've not yet putted my hands on a Canon New FD. The Takumars are a bit overrated , I think.
I think so too - they're nice, certainly, but I think the Canon is nicer. Then again the Canon is a much more modern design, so is perhaps to be expected.
Wonderful video. I have had the Takumar, Canon FD and just had a really lovely Yashica fall into my hands at a thrift store. The Yashica looks like it came from an estate sale and was complete in its original box and packing. I’m really looking forward to using it as the focus is so smooth on this lens. Really has a great feel in the hands and a non radioactive lens.
My least favorite was unexpectedly the Canon and the Nikon because they're too sharp and too tidy looking. Reminds me of modern lenses with their lifeless, clinical and sterile looking images. I liked the Takumar for the defocus areas transitioning very well in some images. Pentaxians seem to think that Takumars and the like have brilliant colors because Pentax DSLR's have very very saturated images. I have seen other comparisons with Nikon lenses and they tend to produce a darker image with very different colors compared to other makers, and I think its not a good thing. But they're all fairly similar. What really counts is the 3D pop to me. You should have also included each lenses looks in terms of Black and White.
In general, your videos are well done. However, regarding the Minolta MC Rokkor - PF 58mm F1.4, there is no evidence that it is radioactive. What information source did you use to conclude that it's radioactive? Yes, Minolta did make some radioactive lenses such as earlier versions of the Rokkor 58MM F1.2 which I have, but I've not seen any reliable source that has measured the F1.4 version to be radioactive.
@@zenography7923 I haven't found a source that has stated that this lens is or isn't radioactive. So it doesn't mean that there isn't some trace of rare earth elements which could cause the yellowing for the 58MM f1.4. However the 3 Rokkor Lenses that have been verified to be radioactive are the earlier versions of 58mm f1.2, 85mm f1.7, and 28MM f2.5.
I think the Minolta 58mm lens should not have been included in the comparison. On the other hand, I think a comparison of various 58mm lenses would be very interesting, lenses like this Minolta, the Zeiss Biotar and the Takumar, if you can afford them, the Helios 58s, the Tomioka/auto Rikenon/auto Sears, again if you can afford one. I think Konica might have one, or maybe it's a 57mm. Then there's the Meyer Optik Gorlitz 59mm, is it? And? And?
I've got two 1.8 lenses and although ISO aint the big problem anymore I still use them for the same reason - their extra light capability. Either to be able to lower ISO or avoid flash at night time.
Surprisingly the Canon FD lenses were made so cheap and plastic inferior build quality to all of the others, but their image quality is outstanding As always, lovely photos!
You must be talking about nFD, because FD are the heaviest Canon ever made, some even have a the nicknale of chrome nose. Hope u can put your hands on one of them, and feel the weight of the chrome.
@@vivianvaldi7871 yes you are correct The breach lock lenses are very impressive but Canon really cheapened the build quality with the newer nFd’s being very light plastic feel
I like the 58mm Sears Auto f/1.4 (Tamioka manufactured) lens... Especially on a crop sensor camera (like my A6600) for portraits (81.2mm equivalent)...
Zenography, I want to see your photos in full res on a 3rd party site. RUclips just doesn\t allow a detailed look at your photos. Do you have a Flickr account or some other place where we can see all these great photos in good resolution? Please post us a link.
One other & then I'll shut up. Three old Nikkors have been converted to fit digital Nikon. These were pre 'AI' (I'm that old) I found a chart on the internet, remove prong and bin, remove mount/flange and file a groove in it to pick up the AI lever. 50 1.4, 105 2.5 & 200 f4 all converted. (I could not get the mount flange off the 135) It works!
I have a Mamiya Sekor 55mm f/1.4 vintage lens. I wonder if it might be a clone of one the those compared in your video. I use it with my Pentax film camera.
@@zenography7923 Regarding the close focus distance, I use the Fotodiox Leica-M to NEX helicoid adapter, and for each lens, I have another adapter that converts its mount to Leica-M mount. That way I can it gives me to macro to infinity focus. This is the helicoid adapter I'm using: www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Lens-Mount-Adapter-Mount/dp/B0095OLTDO So, that means I have these adapters as well: FD to M Minolta to M M42 to M NIK to M etc... Once in a while, I use the Fotodiox Pronto II adapter instead of the helicoid to get autofocus. This explains why I rarely use my modern lenses, which I only have just a few for video anyway. I really enjoy using vintage lenses. Thanks for the awesome channel.
Thanks again for your work. I often see you comment, “would like to get my hands on lense XXX”. I would be curious to see your lense to buy or try list. For example, I thought you had a 50 Panacola and have referred to its performance in the past?
У меня Yashica ML 50/1.9. На самом деле, Yashica сотрудничала с Zeiss, ноу немцев шли свои стёкла, у японцев свои. По цветам сильно различаются, хотя bokeh может быть похоже...
Suggestion. Take a look at one of Nikon's all time best lenses, the famous Nikkor PC 105/2.5. It's very cheap. Prices from $ 70, I paid $ 200 for the best I could find.
Have to agree...the best bang of the buck on faster vintage lenses seems to be with Nikkor F mounts. Not that they are somehow inferior...in fact I would argue the opposite in terms of their quality glass and construction. Also, Konika Hexanon (AR mount) glass is often very competitive, too.
I like the Pentax greens in the Takumar 50mm 1,4 I have a number of 50mm Pentax lenses the worst the Pentax 2.0 . The Pentax 55mm1.8 is another great manuel lens lens from Pentax
Old lenses should not die. There is a nice chap in Spain makes adaptors for most lens/body situations, David Llado - trades as 'Leitax' (get it Leica Contax!) I used his kit to mount a 1980's Zuiko lens on Nikon D700. Bargain.
I thought that this video is a good opportunity to ask somewhat different question regarding adaptation to E mount of 3rd party lenses like Tokina, mount would work the best: MD, F, OM, FD or 42?
M42 is the simplest and most straightforward; of the others the most complex and tricky is the fd mount - easy once you get used to it, but it can be baffling to begin with!
Late respond, and I agree about the M42, beeing the easiest option. But I would put the canon FL/FD/nFD as the thecnical best. Theys are often overlooked, but I find them having advantages above all the rest. The downside is that they are counter intuitiv in the handling, until you learn them. One of the positive sides, it shares with the M42, it the thight fitting you achieve. The lens connection thightens up when you lock it up, and assures a paralell set up, wich again gives you the result. Another positive feature, where it is better than the M42, is the fact it allways turn the right side up. I often find the "cheaper" adapters, not to turn the rightside of the lens up, when connecting them. The FD and the other bayonet lockings are better than M42 in this. Another positive feature with the FD, is that it will not unwind like the M42, when you get a old stiff lens with hardened grease in the focus helicoil. The last good thing about the FD mount, is that it seems like the lenses not are as popular as the other mounts, and can be bought a little cheaper vs. M42 version of the same 3th. party lens.
@@sidekickbob7227 I ended up picking the cleanest copy of a vintage lens rather then going after the mount type first. In this case it was Pentax mount. All my adapters are K&F - I am very happy with the quality.
A wonderfull review, thank's a lot! However, there is no reason not to put these vintage 50 1,4s onto vintage cameras, and put a roll of Kodak E100 in it, you won't be disappointed. I believe that another reason for the extra fee for Nikon lenses, is the fact that (AI) fits straight on new Nikon DSLRs. Canon FD lenses that are just as good, don't.
Modern lenses can vignette, but they generally do it rather less. As well as that, digital sensors, unlike film, need light to fall as near to right angles to the surface as possible - digital lenses take that into account, whereas film lenses don't!
Minolta has always been the "Bokeh-king", I thought that was common knowledge? Minolta was renowned for its rendering and there is a reason why Leitz (Leica today) struck up a partnership with Minolta, some designs were shared between them on both mounts.
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Perfect Sunday when Zenography drops a new video talking about delicious f1.4 lenses.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
It would be interesting to take the exact same shot with all lenses, it makes spotting the differences much easier. I did the comparison once with four 50's and the results were quite illuminating.
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I have owned the Canon and the Minolta and still own the Super Takumar but my favourite has to be the Konica Hexanon 57mm f1.4. It’s as sharp as a tack with lovely dreamy out of focus areas. It also provides bubbles till Tuesday. It has an all-metal construction and is built like the proverbial. It’s also aesthetically pleasing with a matt black finish and a silver ring featuring the hyper focal distance scale. I recommend you try one if you haven’t already done so. Thanks for the video, it was very informative.
First time I read from someone this lens has anything special in sharpness. I rather read it shines bc it's something else & so different than a sharp one, completely at the opposite side of a K 50 1.7 & even a K 52 1.8. Report us if u have some material. I like surprises, and I think too it's a fine tool by seeing some results. My best Ks up to now are 2 35-100 2.8, but for video applications on crop sensor, not full frame.
Weird: Nigel's peanuts become gold-coated diamonds after the sellers see his videos. Thanks for your work, it's always a treat to watch your reviews.
Another nice video thanks . Back when when my Nikkor 50 f1.4 came out of the box for the very first time I put a Hoya Skylight 1B on to protect that beautiful pinky looking coating and I never even thought about the natural colours of the lens being on the cool side. The biggest factor was the film in that regard, and I veered away from Kodachrome and Agfachrome and Ektachrome towards Fujichrome which was cheaper and I thought warmer, making the world look a better place, then came Provia and Velvia - hallelujah. But since I went digital I’ve never managed to get anything quite the same. So back then, for me, it was probably the choice of film and filter that determined the look of the world more than the lens - and there wasn’t anything like your great videos to make such interesting comparisons.
I sense a Fuji camera coming on with the simulations to take me back, unless the brand new FM/FE inspired Z-fc drags me back to the mirrorless future first🤔
by the way, one reason for the increased price over some of the others - the oldest Nikkor still fits Nikon dslr today, and allows easy Aperture priority metering on the enthusiast and pro range of bodies, so they’re still useful for those who haven’t yet gone mirrorless. Last week on holiday my new Sigma Art zoom failed but the holiday was saved by an old 28 2.8Ai 😀
There's a lot to be said for simplicity, I think! Glad you enjoyed the video.
My impression is that Takumars in general seem to have a warm tone. The 50 f1.4 however seems to me to be on the cooler side.
Great review. Just ordered a Canon FDn 50mm f1.4 for video work and this video was incredibly helpful in that decision. And the most laid back and relaxing delivery of the content on RUclips. Subscribed. Thank you. = )
And thank you, glad it was helpful!
Agreed. In terms of performance-price, the Canon FD 50/1.4 and Nikkor 50/1.4 are IMO tops. Often, these gems can be purchased with the bodies for bargain prices. In fact, it is usually when they are paired with the bodies that the lens value goes less noticed. As always, taking special care to observe lens condition...which is a bit riskier/more difficult with the online combo purchases.
I have an earlier SC version of the Nikon, it's a little soft wide open, stop it down a little and it gets sharp & contrasty. Keep a lookout, there are deals on Nikon glass. I really like the images from the Minolta!
I only have one 50mm f1. 4, a Nikkor s-c non ai on my wonderful Nikkormat ft2 all black camera.
Focuses to 0.6m and built really well. I enjoy using the camera with this lens and love the results.
I have a Yashica fxd quartz with a 50mm f2 ml lens which focuses to 0.5 is my smallest and lightest slr which also has AE which if I am lazy I enjoy.
£12 from a charity shop. Excellent.
If I had the 1.4 I would have to carry extra weight.
My Pentax spotmatic with the 50mm 1.8 is my favourite all rounder. Classic.
That little Pentax 1.8 is an outstanding lens, a real unsung gem - I actually prefer it to the 50 1.4!
I shot on a Yashica range finder with the 1.4 lens for years until it was stolen, then it was a Minolta Hi-Matic with a 1.4(?) until I got a K-1000. Still have both.
Over the years I have collected many vintage lens and over the last 2-years went on a vintage collecting binge of lenses and cameras. Now because RUclips presenters feature these vintage lenses and cameras, lenses I usually picked up from free to $5-$25, and cameras from free to $30-$50, are now out of reasonable reach. Such as it is, but RUclips presenters do and important service, especially for those new to photography, and help to preserve, even grow the hobby, ensuring that MFG's keep designing and making new equipment. Even the price of film is coming down and is more available due to the increased interest in film.
Thanks for the trip through the old, but great vintage glass as I think I have most of them somewhere in all these boxes on the shelves. Some are still waiting for my attention at the work bench, as fungus and dust inhabit many of them.
i love the glowing effect the minolta gets wide open and then stop down to get more contrast sharpness if i need it.
Yes, I have the Minolta 58mm, Canon FD 50mm SSC, and Pentax 50mm (8 element version). I agree with your assessment. I’d add my Minolta Rokkor-X PG 50mm 1.4 is even more of what Minolta does well and perhaps better background blur. It’s one of my favorites. I often use the Pentax for black and white. Keep up the good work on these videos. My wife and I enjoy them!
Great videos!! I'd love to see you review the Fuji Fujinon 50mm 1.4. Please keep up the great work.
Hi!! Which one of the Minolta and Canon would fit better with fujinon lenses?
Thanks for another great video. The f1.4 lenses have their benefits, I suppose. They certainly have the cachet of being the best of their day. The fastest lens I have is an f1.8. Even an f1.8 in my experience as a rank amateur photography hobbyist is that when shot wide open, the depth of field is so shallow that it can actually be detrimental. For example my cat's eyes might be in focus but the ears and whickers are blurry. Same with a closeup of a flower. I need to stop down to get everything in focus. For what I shoot, a f1.4 lens would be unnecessary and too expensive for what I need. For me f1.8 is fast enough although an f1.4 stopped down to f1.8 might be sharper.
Thanks again and I'll look forward to your next video.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
The canon LTM 50mm 1.4 is another outstanding lens in this category …. i have a feeling you’d really love it too - gives some pretty wild bokeh. surprised you’ve never covered the Canon range of leica thread lenses, they seem right up your alley.
I intend to cover some of those lenses as soon as I can - stay tuned!
I sold my Canon FD 50 and bought the older LTM variety. LOVE IT! Became my favourite portrait lens on a Fuji mirrorless instantly. Excellent as the FD is, I agree with Nigel's assessment that it behaves more like a modern lens
Most of Canon's LTM lenses are currently underrated and undervalued. Surprised that they're inexpensive for essentially a Leica M mount compatible lens with a simple adapter.
@@zenography7923 this one I love😍
Дошло до того, что ставлю Лайк ещё до просмотра. Очень хорошие обзоры!
Another great video! Yashica lenses were always very underrated as they lived in the shadow of Zeiss. The cameras were the same, Yashica was the Toyota to CONTAX's Lexus and they were excellent. Yashica ML lenses offer good value for anyone with a C/Y mount camera and are much more than just poverty lenses for people who can't afford Zeiss.
Absolutely, they’re very nice in their own right! And having had both a fancy Lexus and a simple Toyota, I preferred the Toyota! Neither took good photographs though.
Always interesting reports about vintage stuff. Follow your Chanel for years. Congrats!
I agree with you that your Yashica and Minolta lenses have fantastic colors. After watching this video, I'm definitely going to try to have my GAF labeled, Tomioka made, 55mm 1.4 lens fixed!
I adore your videos. Tons of unique content. You definitely activated a vintage lens maniac inside me (to the bitter grief of my wife) and helped to navigate through this ( _sometimes_ ) not so inviting world. But, just FYI, I watch all of your videos at 1.5x speed, pausing for photos. Probably I'm too _millennial_
How timely, I just picked up a Canon FD 50mm f1.4 a couple of days ago. I have a pretty decent collection of 50mm vintage lenses, and that Canon surprised me with its sharpness wide open; haven't seen anything like that in my other vintage lenses. Its blur is also fantastic, even stopped down. The copy I have also just happens to have perfectly damped focusing. It does have color fringing that doesn't go away as fast stopped down as my other favorites, but that's irrelevant if shooting B&W.
Thanks for the insights and the beautiful sample shots. I stopped here and there to take a closer look at the pictures and then forgot about the technical aspects.
Aesthetics beats technicalities every time! Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for watching.
Got the canon fd, can't wait for it to arrive!
I'm dabbling into oldie lenses
Another great topic Nigel. I own 3 lenses of your set : the Zuiko, the Canon and the Minolta. I use the Minolta as an impressive macro lens by using an FD/55mm inverter. It is possible to focus 2/3 cm from the subject (I use a Canon New F1, A-1 and an Oly OM-10 MkII with a FD/M43 speed booster + the inverter).
Thanks for the tip! Glad you enjoyed the video!
My favorite 50mm 1.4: auto revuenon on a Fuji x-t20 with a kipon-baveyes focal reducer. Love that combo
Hi.
Another typical example where less is better.
If you were looking for the "blurry thing" and are not happy with the Yashica ML 50mm f/1.4, then the Yashica ML 50mm f/1.7 is also a "Zeiss clone".
The optical construction (6 lenses in 5 groups) is very similar to that of the Zeiss Planar 50mm f/1.7.
The f/1.7 gives swirly results very similar to those of the Biotar or the Helios 58mm lenses.
For half the price of the f/1.4 lens.
Nice video ! I will have to add a f1.4 lens example to my Zuiko standard lens lineup.
I bet a lot of us are using crop sensor cameras instead of full frame digital cameras which means a vintage 50mm lens is really essentially a telephoto lens. For my camera it calculates to an 80mm lens (crop factor 1.6). A 28mm vintage lens calculates to a 45mm lens which gives you a close approximation to the old film slr set-up with a 50mm lens. There are a lot of nice 28mm f/2.8 lenses out there. I have one that works very well.
I'm so lost and indecisive what vintage lens to get. I have a canon rebel sl3, crop censor.
You have a point, and tbh, I wanted to get a vintage lens that excels in low contrast, desaturated look, that old feel not overly sharp but not soft either, that 80s vibe of film days.
I keep hearing issues about breech lock, half clicks and full clicks, light leaks, radioactive stuff, and now that you mentioned this, it's turr, essentially a 50 mm gonna be a telephoto lens.
I just want a vintage lens I can use in almost any situation, botanical, street, urban, landscape, toy or product photography.
I figured 1.4 lens would excel in low light situations, and be great for portraits, a vintage lens.
So any recommendations on lens? And recommendations on adapters. My head is a swivel between canon fd, pentax, Olympus, Minolta, others. I wish there was a article showing what each type of look each cameras get
Please help me with your experience and suggestions
Please see my comment
I don't want a lens that's too sharp.! Please help with recommendations
@@tylerfields2368 I have an older Canon 600D which is similar to your camera. The vintage lenses I've been using are a Tokina 28mm f/2.8 and an Olympus 50mm f/1.8. Both are fine lenses. They are both very sharp. I'm finding that I go back to the Tokina more often though. It's great for flower close up photos. I've been using auto-ISO on my camera (my camera can set range limits on this). That way I can concentrate on the f-stop, focusing and shutter speed. With digital cameras ISO and graininess are not the concern they were with film. To tell you the truth, I'm not sure going to f/1.4 is worth the additional money. You're unlikely to be operating much at that aperture anyway. It would be best to put the money into a good quality lens.
Very nice review. I really like the Minolta 58 / 1.4 there are 3 or 4 versions, the autorokkor is earlier than the last two versions (MC), I have the first version of the MC, many say that the second is better although the optical design is the same . I think MCs have a bit better contrast at f 1.4 due to better coating.
I purchased a beat up olympus 50 f1.4, with separation at edges of lens groups, just to give it a try. It's a wonderful lens with great colors, is very sharp with extension tubes, and (maybe due to separation) has just enough highlight glow to add that special something. I much prefer it to my pentax 50 f1.4 (sharper, but flatter colors and a 'clinical' look to my eye). You should check out mamiya sekor m42 lenses, they are full of character and a lot of fun to use. Thanks for another great video!
We really look forward to Sundays, and a new Zenography video. Would loved to have seen a Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm Prakticar lens in with this group of tine optics.
I'd certainly like to try the very rare CZJ 50mm f1.4 Pancolar - just got to find one first!
@@zenography7923 i got the 80mm 1.8 Pancolar which is an amazing lens!
The CZJ f1.4 Pancolar, as fitted to the Pentacon Super, was, in fact, a 55mm optic, they are out there, but are hugely expensive. The CZJ 50mm f1.4 Prakticar optic is much more affordable. It was available in two versions, one of which contained Thorium. There is a German website which gives details of the design brief, and it's very high quality construction. This lens was offered with Praktica 'B' series cameras.
Ah ha. I get what you mean by harsh blur, I quite like it, the way it pushes in front of the subject, giving a 2 step perspective. I know I have a yashika camera, wondering what lens it came with, if it was a removable, might be a rangefinder.
A top 5 harshist lenses video would get me on eBay.
I have acquired quite a few nifty-fifties (50~58mm) in the 1.2-1.4 ultra fast to fast range. The 1.4's are often the best bang for the buck, IMHO. My favorite vintage glass in this category...the Super Takumar (7 element) 50/1.4, Nikkor 50/1.4, Nikkor 55/1.2, Jupiter-3 50/1.5, Canon FD 50/1.4 (chrome lip), Sears (Tomioka) 55/1.4.
No issue for me as it relates to the venerable Thoriated glass...I am well aware of the radioactivity (former nuclear engineer and CRA on a nuclear powered sub) and know the exposure is insignificant when the lens is used as designed.
I have the Yashica 50mm f1.4 but also try out the Yashica 55mm f2.8 Macro which is a far more useful lens as it focuses down to 9 inches.
I'll certainly give one a go, if one should come my way! Thanks for the tip.
@@zenography7923 The 55mm f2.8 are quite rare and also based on a zeiss design I think. I paid £100 for mine buy it now on Ebay, but they seem to have doubled in price since. With the Yashica f1.4 you said you found the bokeh harsh. I quite like strong or harsh bokeh in certain circumstances. Did you try just stopping it down to f2 and see what difference that made? That should also eliminate any issues with vignetting completely.
An excellent description of the characteristics of each lens!
Tell me Is it better to buy a Canon FD 50mm 1.4 lens with an SSC signature?
And how much better will the FD 50mm 1.2 SSC version be?
Sorry you didn't have a chance to shoot with the Konica Hexanon 50mm f1.4 -- a really nice lens. Exceptionally sharp & with the traditional Konica color signature. Should you run across one... do not hesitate!
I'll certainly look out for one - thanks for the tip!
@@zenography7923 good hunting! :) As well, do keep your eye out for the 50mm f1.7 -- a truly exceptional lens! -- & the 40mm f1.8 pancake lens, which is fairly easily found & quite wonderful -- you may be familiar with it...? Love your channel, your attitude, your way of exploring.... Thanks!
Thanks for this comparison - lots of work behind a film like this. I'm addicted to Pentax old glass and have a nice 50mm f1.7 SMC which came with my ME Super back in the early 1980s but the Yashica 50mm 1.4 has a nice look too. I'm trading in my modern Sigma 50mm f1.4 EX DG HSM (towards a Sony A7 body). Don't like the ultra sharp, gritty look from the Sigma and it also weighs about 2lbs. Keep up the good work - much appreciated and a Sunday treat ;-)
It's true, a lot of work does go into these, so it's great when they're appreciated! Thanks!
Fantastic set of photographs, Nigel, and good to see that the lens info is included, it helps immensely.
In the 70's I shot Nikon film and I agree with you that Nikon's pallete is on the cooler side of the spectrum, couple that with shooting Ektachrome slides and the world turned blue, lol.
It was said, back in the day, that if you shot portraits and weddings the camera to have was a Canon, if you were a photojournalist you shot Nikon.
Of course, film wasn't a variable so the difference had to be in the lenses.
I have a couple of the lenses you test in this video (the Nikon and the Pentax) - these lenses were, of course, classed in the professional end of the market and it shows, in image quality and construction.
I am taken, however, by the Minolts 58mm f1.4. The colours from that lens are second to none, in my opinion; it is the perfect focal length for use on APSC sensors, getting you as close tothe magical 85mm portrait focal length as it is possible to get.
I really must look out for one. I can hear my wallet squealing as I type this :-)
Great video, thank you, Sir.
George
Thanks George, glad you enjoyed it! The Minolta 58 can often be found quite cheaply - I'm not sure why, but with a little patience you should find a good one. Good luck!
Hello there!
Nice video, Nice leases and nice folklore music at the end 👌.
Take care
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Here in the USA we always called it YA-SHE-CA
Have to save this for when my granddaughter goes for her nap
I shoot Pentax on film, XM + super program, and adapt to fujifilm. Thanks for another video.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it!
I was going to finally spring (buy) for a Nikon 85mm f2 ais lens from EBay, that costed 250.00 dollars altogether. But then I watched Ted Forbes video about owning a lens for years, went to use it one day. Only to find insect was inside it! He didn't know how it got there, but said on rare occasions did it show up on the image. After that video changed my mind on buying any vintage or used lens. It might have bedbugs in there!
I seem to have escaped any insect content - so far anyway!
Purchase your lens from a reputable seller like KEH. They inspect and warranty their products for 180 days. I always buy the additional warranty as well so that if I have any issues, they'll either fix or totally replace my purchase. It costs a little more, but it gives me peace of mind.
Just bought a Minolta PF 58 f1.4 for my Minolta XD-11.
I have Canon 50mm 1,4 and Zuiko 55mm 1,2 also Fujica 50mm 2,0, using them in different situations, but i like them all. I do really like black&white photografing,
so i suggest testing these lenses with b&w comparing other optics. Otherwise why not testing optics only as colour fotography?
Another wonderful segment. Simply wonderful. So... I have taken the lens off of a few parts grade Yashica Electro 35's and mounted the Yashinon DX 1.7/45mm lens to a focusing helical with a Sony mount for the A7. The images have the color pop you so eloquently discuss. It really does stand in stark contrast to the Nikkor lenses of the era, which are surgical, yet subdued. I recently got the Minolta 1.4/58mm and am really looking forward to seeing what I can create with it. One more note on the Yashinon DX 1.7/45mm... I mounted one on a 58mm helical so it became a macro lens that only focuses within about 1.7 meters. It may be my favorite lens for close-up work.
I would also like to add that I appreciate that you focus on wonderful glass that is available at affordable price points. it's wonderful to be able to experiment with a new piece of kit for very little cash.
That sounds like a really interesting project! Was it difficult to mount the lens at the right distance from the sensor to get the full focussing range?
Glad you're finding them useful!
@@zenography7923 I would send you one. I dont care if it makes an appearance in a video. It would simply be nice to share with you. You have shared so much with us. It took some time to do the first one, but then it got simple.
It's true that film cameras didn't go up in ISO, but they could go down. We didn't use ND filters, but we use ISO 25 films, as Kodachrome and so on.
If only I could shoot some kodachrome today!
Just in time for bed. Your Fuji recipe video was awesome. The olympus I have gives very unique flair. Never seem it on another lens
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks!
@@zenography7923 sure thing. Although my X pro2 is starting to do the thing , it wants you to turn the camera on and off after every other picture.. I think it's mechanical shutter
In 1976 german photographer Günther Richter conducted an mtf-test between the Canon FD 1,4 / 50mm s.s.c. and the Leica 2,0 50mm. The test setup was set at Rodenstock with the then most accurate technology. The Canon won.
While I've only shot one Leica lens (a 1950 Summitar) this doesn't surprise me - that fd 1.4 really is outstanding.
You do not really want to compare the canon fd 1.4 to any Leica f1.4 lens no🤣
@@artisfine Maybe, given price-performance ratio.
@@jb678901 maybe .
Excellent video! Does anyone know if vintage radioactive lenses like the Super Multi Coated Takumar 50mm 1.4 will damage new mirrorless sensors?
Character, warmth, an organic look,…this old beautys show you the 70th and the 80th! The modern lenses are just calculated to be fast and more faster… instead of showing you personality or some art…
A collection of these lenses will react different on different modern cameras I think.
Today I use the Pentax and two Nikon on my GH5 and GH5s, but I went the next logic step. I bought an old Nikon F3 and shot on b/w film and develop it in my bathroom and scan it with my GH5 and a Nikon 55 micro lens….awesome!
It sounds like you have the perfect set-up there - enjoy!
Very good review as always, but I loved the song, what is the group? Thanks
I am familiar with and love the colors from Minolta (which I have) but Pentax pastel got me by surprise! Anyway, it surely depends also on sensor. Now, I would test them also on X-Trans sensor from Fujifilm. I mean, would Minolta look as beautiful on Fijifilm sensor? Then what about Pentax? And so on...
Thank you for the presentation!
I have an aps-c camera and trying to find the equivalent minimum docus distance with adapted lenses...seems like faster lenses are needed for aps-c, to get the same results as full frame
I think color itself doesn't matter, I can produce whatever color I want in post production. The built quality, sharpness, rendition and the focus ring feeling is my concern.
You're spot on for the Minolta Rokkor 58 1.4 PF , it's my prefered lens for now , though I've not yet putted my hands on a Canon New FD. The Takumars are a bit overrated , I think.
I think so too - they're nice, certainly, but I think the Canon is nicer. Then again the Canon is a much more modern design, so is perhaps to be expected.
Watching this 3 years later on the hunt for a 1.4 lens!
Wonderful video. I have had the Takumar, Canon FD and just had a really lovely Yashica fall into my hands at a thrift store. The Yashica looks like it came from an estate sale and was complete in its original box and packing. I’m really looking forward to using it as the focus is so smooth on this lens. Really has a great feel in the hands and a non radioactive lens.
Congratulations for taking interest in such photo-hobby
Thank you so much 🙂!
My least favorite was unexpectedly the Canon and the Nikon because they're too sharp and too tidy looking. Reminds me of modern lenses with their lifeless, clinical and sterile looking images. I liked the Takumar for the defocus areas transitioning very well in some images. Pentaxians seem to think that Takumars and the like have brilliant colors because Pentax DSLR's have very very saturated images. I have seen other comparisons with Nikon lenses and they tend to produce a darker image with very different colors compared to other makers, and I think its not a good thing. But they're all fairly similar. What really counts is the 3D pop to me.
You should have also included each lenses looks in terms of Black and White.
I do have a video on lenses to shoot black and white with, from around February 2020.
In general, your videos are well done. However, regarding the Minolta MC Rokkor - PF 58mm F1.4, there is no evidence that it is radioactive. What information source did you use to conclude that it's radioactive? Yes, Minolta did make some radioactive lenses such as earlier versions of the Rokkor 58MM F1.2 which I have, but I've not seen any reliable source that has measured the F1.4 version to be radioactive.
Well, I thought it might be as the lens elements are a little yellowed - happy to be corrected, if you know different!
@@zenography7923 I haven't found a source that has stated that this lens is or isn't radioactive. So it doesn't mean that there isn't some trace of rare earth elements which could cause the yellowing for the 58MM f1.4. However the 3 Rokkor Lenses that have been verified to be radioactive are the earlier versions of 58mm f1.2, 85mm f1.7, and 28MM f2.5.
I think the Minolta 58mm lens should not have been included in the comparison. On the other hand, I think a comparison of various 58mm lenses would be very interesting, lenses like this Minolta, the Zeiss Biotar and the Takumar, if you can afford them, the Helios 58s, the Tomioka/auto Rikenon/auto Sears, again if you can afford one. I think Konica might have one, or maybe it's a 57mm. Then there's the Meyer Optik Gorlitz 59mm, is it? And? And?
Do you have a video about fast rangefinder lenses? For aps-c
Excellent teaching
Hello,
I recently put my father's Nikkor 80-200 f4.5 zoom on a Z6. It is fantastic. Have you used this lens before. I'd be interested in your opinion.
I've got two 1.8 lenses and although ISO aint the big problem anymore I still use them for the same reason - their extra light capability. Either to be able to lower ISO or avoid flash at night time.
Indeed - they're still very useful in that respect!
Surprisingly the Canon FD lenses were made so cheap and plastic inferior build quality to all of the others, but their image quality is outstanding
As always, lovely photos!
Many thanks Ronald, glad you enjoyed it!
You must be talking about nFD, because FD are the heaviest Canon ever made, some even have a the nicknale of chrome nose. Hope u can put your hands on one of them, and feel the weight of the chrome.
@@vivianvaldi7871 yes you are correct
The breach lock lenses are very impressive but Canon really cheapened the build quality with the newer nFd’s being very light plastic feel
I like the 58mm Sears Auto f/1.4 (Tamioka manufactured) lens... Especially on a crop sensor camera (like my A6600) for portraits (81.2mm equivalent)...
TYPO: I meant to type 55mm, not 58mm...
I've heard that's a very nice lens - it has quite a reputation!
Zenography, I want to see your photos in full res on a 3rd party site. RUclips just doesn\t allow a detailed look at your photos. Do you have a Flickr account or some other place where we can see all these great photos in good resolution? Please post us a link.
One other & then I'll shut up.
Three old Nikkors have been converted to fit digital Nikon. These were pre 'AI' (I'm that old)
I found a chart on the internet, remove prong and bin, remove mount/flange and file a groove in it to pick up the AI lever.
50 1.4, 105 2.5 & 200 f4 all converted.
(I could not get the mount flange off the 135)
It works!
That sounds like a very useful mod, thanks for the info!
I have a Mamiya Sekor 55mm f/1.4 vintage lens. I wonder if it might be a clone of one the those compared in your video. I use it with my Pentax film camera.
It might be a clone, but I think Mamiya made their own lenses?
@@zenography7923 There are two schools of thought: manufactured by Mamiya or Tomioka.
I have a bunch of 50-ish mm lenses, and seems like each one has unique characteristics.
I know exactly what you mean!
@@zenography7923 Regarding the close focus distance, I use the Fotodiox Leica-M to NEX helicoid adapter, and for each lens, I have another adapter that converts its mount to Leica-M mount. That way I can it gives me to macro to infinity focus.
This is the helicoid adapter I'm using: www.amazon.com/Fotodiox-Lens-Mount-Adapter-Mount/dp/B0095OLTDO
So, that means I have these adapters as well:
FD to M
Minolta to M
M42 to M
NIK to M
etc...
Once in a while, I use the Fotodiox Pronto II adapter instead of the helicoid to get autofocus. This explains why I rarely use my modern lenses, which I only have just a few for video anyway.
I really enjoy using vintage lenses. Thanks for the awesome channel.
Thanks again for your work. I often see you comment, “would like to get my hands on lense XXX”. I would be curious to see your lense to buy or try list. For example, I thought you had a 50 Panacola and have referred to its performance in the past?
I've often referred to the Pancolar, it's one of my favourites, and my gold standard for vintage 50mm lenses!
I have the Minolta 50mm 1.4 MD Rokkor adapted for my Sony A6500 and it's one of my favourite lenses.
Totally agree on the photography community's over emphasis on sharpness.
it depends on the shot you want to make - sharpness isn't always required!
У меня Yashica ML 50/1.9. На самом деле, Yashica сотрудничала с Zeiss, ноу немцев шли свои стёкла, у японцев свои. По цветам сильно различаются, хотя bokeh может быть похоже...
For me, the Olympus has something the others don't. I love my Olympus cameras and lenses. The Pen F vintage lenses are also amazing.
I'll look out for a Pen lens - thanks for the suggestion!
@@zenography7923 oh please do! They are incredible! I love your channel and all the work you do. You make all of us better photographers.
Suggestion. Take a look at one of Nikon's all time best lenses, the famous Nikkor PC 105/2.5. It's very cheap. Prices from $ 70, I paid $ 200 for the best I could find.
what does the PC stand for? is it ai or ais?
Have to agree...the best bang of the buck on faster vintage lenses seems to be with Nikkor F mounts. Not that they are somehow inferior...in fact I would argue the opposite in terms of their quality glass and construction. Also, Konika Hexanon (AR mount) glass is often very competitive, too.
It really is hard to beat that Nikon.
It really is!
I like the Pentax greens in the Takumar 50mm 1,4 I have a number of 50mm Pentax lenses the worst the Pentax 2.0 . The Pentax 55mm1.8 is another great manuel lens lens from Pentax
The 55 1.8 is an absolute gem, and inexpensive too!
Good info.
“Skittish and willful”. Describes my old girlfriend
Very nice
Well done you.
f1.4? Who uses that? Well, I do, every time I look through the viewfinder and focus.
Absolutely, me too!
Old lenses should not die.
There is a nice chap in Spain makes adaptors for most lens/body situations, David Llado - trades as 'Leitax' (get it Leica Contax!)
I used his kit to mount a 1980's Zuiko lens on Nikon D700. Bargain.
That's interesting, thanks for the info!
I enjoy the shots. I remember shooting with ASA 25 black and white...the other reason you needed a 1.4.
Indeed! Glad you liked the images.
I thought that this video is a good opportunity to ask somewhat different question regarding adaptation to E mount of 3rd party lenses like Tokina, mount would work the best: MD, F, OM, FD or 42?
M42 is the simplest and most straightforward; of the others the most complex and tricky is the fd mount - easy once you get used to it, but it can be baffling to begin with!
Late respond, and I agree about the M42, beeing the easiest option. But I would put the canon FL/FD/nFD as the thecnical best. Theys are often overlooked, but I find them having advantages above all the rest. The downside is that they are counter intuitiv in the handling, until you learn them. One of the positive sides, it shares with the M42, it the thight fitting you achieve. The lens connection thightens up when you lock it up, and assures a paralell set up, wich again gives you the result. Another positive feature, where it is better than the M42, is the fact it allways turn the right side up. I often find the "cheaper" adapters, not to turn the rightside of the lens up, when connecting them. The FD and the other bayonet lockings are better than M42 in this. Another positive feature with the FD, is that it will not unwind like the M42, when you get a old stiff lens with hardened grease in the focus helicoil. The last good thing about the FD mount, is that it seems like the lenses not are as popular as the other mounts, and can be bought a little cheaper vs. M42 version of the same 3th. party lens.
@@sidekickbob7227 I ended up picking the cleanest copy of a vintage lens rather then going after the mount type first. In this case it was Pentax mount.
All my adapters are K&F - I am very happy with the quality.
A wonderfull review, thank's a lot! However, there is no reason not to put these vintage 50 1,4s onto vintage cameras, and put a roll of Kodak E100 in it, you won't be disappointed. I believe that another reason for the extra fee for Nikon lenses, is the fact that (AI) fits straight on new Nikon DSLRs. Canon FD lenses that are just as good, don't.
It's certainly nice to shoot some film from time to time, mostly black and white these days though!
Still using them for film. They can save a photo in low light.
Still invaluable for low light film work!
Minoltas have a beautiful buttery blur. Canon FD 50 / 1.4 probably has the most "modern" or neutral colour rendition.
I know what you mean, that Minolta is quite something!
I love the Minolta too. ❤️
I love my vintage FD lenses 👌🐷
Me too!
the best 50mm lens was Kern macro switar 50mm/1.8
Well, hello everybody
Hello indeed!
I like my Pentax-M 50 mm 1.4 on my MFT camera and it is also better than the Oly om 50 mm 1.8 in mechanic, haptic and micro contrasts.
I've heard that's a very nice lens!
Is vignetting normal for vintage lenses? Do modern lenses not vignette?
Modern lenses can vignette, but they generally do it rather less. As well as that, digital sensors, unlike film, need light to fall as near to right angles to the surface as possible - digital lenses take that into account, whereas film lenses don't!
Konicas?
I never understood why FD lenses were so disrespected and under-priced for years and years. Glad I stocked up when they were cheaper than dirt.
People assumed the nFD versions were too plastic ridden and the mounting system was too fiddly, overcomplicate and fragile for mirrorless adaptation.
Indeed!
Yaßhica is underated but performs well
Sin of death!!!!!
Minolta has always been the "Bokeh-king", I thought that was common knowledge?
Minolta was renowned for its rendering and there is a reason why Leitz (Leica today) struck up a partnership with Minolta, some designs were shared between them on both mounts.