This is the very best English language video concerning Brexit and the UK-EU relations I have seen on RUclips. I pinpoints exactly all the subjects and details most British citizens never seemed to have understood, like the UK mistake to believe that the EU is nothing but a giant supermarket where the British should pay as little as possible and benefit as much as possible. When they discovered that the EU was much more than that, in fact, the project of a Confederacy of ethnically and linguistically closely related sovereign nations, that are prepared to transfer important parts of their sovereignty to common institutions, all what the different UK governments did was trying to sabotage these efforts, making Britain in the process the hated parasite bully of Europe.
We were in the top 3 most influential countries in the EU. We had a very exclusive and priveliged deal in our membership in the EU. We threw it all away, the stupidity of it is truly baffling.
Because it was a scam. The ultra rich elites wanted to pilfer the govt / economy to get richer, but needed to get those pesky EU laws that prevented them, out of the way.
How the Brexiteers persuaded the UK that we could have the best bits of the EU without membership never did make sense. The EU would never allow a member to leave yet still have EU benefits to do so undermines the whole purpose of the EU.
They could do that because most of the stupid inhabitants of England never understood that many of the things that made border crossing trade and travel in Europe so easy were positive consequences of EU membership. They regarded all those advantages for granted even outside the EU.
In France, as well ! Marine Le Pen has completely evacuated the proposal in her program and François Asselineau, our "very soft" Nigel Farage, looks more isolated than ever.
@@fbean2489 It was very small in Spain, tho. Keep in mind that Spain started the join proccess right after the dictature was over, so in our minds the EU is associated to democracy and modernity, while nationalism is associated to shame. However, it is true that the extreme right parties were starting to play with the idea of being anti-Europeists, and that is not happening anymore.
German living in the Netherlands here: the Brexit was indeed good for the EU and the reasons layed out nicely in this video. It killed support for leaving the EU in all the other states and the biggest Handbrake is now out.
Also , living in the Low Lands, we saw a lot of business with the UK whither away BUT happily been replaced with new business inside the EU , especially with countries like Poland, Croatia, Czech rep. and so on...
@@MrMarinus18 Don't worry about that, complaining is just a way to pass the time here, we'll complain about anything, you'll get used to it. There used to be a strong anti eu sentiment her, but ever since Brexit it all but died out.
@@MinorZero But I also think the EU needs reforming and right now is the best time to do so. With the cost of the war and the sanctions against Russia as well as the changing world of geo-politics, Covid still fresh in people's mind and neo-liberalism increasingly been seen as discredit there is no better time to reform the EU. I am happy to see the strikes going on but we need to make more ambitious and specific demands to the EU. One of the ones I would like is a minimum corporate tax for countries in the single market and increased trade tariffs on countries that have a lower tax to bring it up to the same level. Mandatory worker representation on corporate boards and a veto right for them to give it teeth. transparency
@@MrMarinus18 Sadly so far Germany saw it as core responsibility to block any and all positive change for or comming out of the EU. Well at least with the UK out it's one country less doing so now.
See, this is what I never got! At it's most basic,selling is a numbers game and the easier you make it for your customers the more chances you have of making a sale. Making it difficult and more expensive to buy from you is lunacy and that's what's happened here. In the end you can argue about why people voted for this but it's simply numbers...better in than out. Hi from the continent!
@MyFaceBeHi EU to the UK: At first I was afraid, I was petrified Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong And I grew strong And I learned how to get along
All lies and stupid ones too. Of course the EU will survive better than Britain - they're a market of nearly 500m people and we're insignificant in world trade terms. I wish the EU renewed success in creating the greatest peaceful project for human cooperation and peace and I live in shame at what my ridiculous country has done and the unforgivable insults we threw at decent polite peaceful friends. That's what happens when you let Vlad Putin write your script! Nothing could be less true than the nazi jibe but since when did lying get in the way of Brexiters mouthing off and giving us all a bad name.
@archon101That's not right, only 17.4 million actually voted to leave the EU out of 48 million electorate. And in the Dec 2019 election the tories only got 14 million votes out of 48 million or more electorate, they only got 44% of the actual votes and yet they have a massive majority now to basically do whatever they want. We don't live in a democracy, our first past the post voting system isn't fit for purpose or democratic. We need a proportional voting system, one that means every vote actually counts
I can say that from the perspective of North America, the brexit experience has made the UK a less relevant nation. The EU is a super power in economic terms and a strong advocate for health and environmental protection.
I'm Irish and I used to purchase stuff from the UK all the time but after Brexit It just became way too burdensome and expensive to buy anything from them, so after a little shopping around I found a good supplier based in Germany and I've been buying from them ever since. I found the pricing slightly cheaper because I don't have to convert to sterling or pay customs charges. I find the shipping is a lot faster and a lot cheaper from Germany so the UK's decision to leave the EU has actually saved me money because otherwise I wouldn't have switched. The UK, in an act of incredable stupidity, and arrogrance, cut its own throat with Brexit and is now paying a huge price for it - And to be honest I don't care. They made their decision and now they can bloody well live with it - That's exactly what the British would say if it was someone else other than them who left the EU - So yeah, screw them.
“That's exactly what the British would say” they have zero understanding of comeuppance now that it’s their turn. They are dead set, heels dug in and upper lip all ironed, to turn this all into a good hard stint of British class warfare to teach the poors a lesson about what happens when your overlords go insane, they are set for a good few generations of punitive desolate misery and then some, and then to blame the Irish.
The UK was never really pro-EU and you could feel it. It’s much smoother sailing since they’re out. They always wanted special treatment as well. They had quite an arrogance about them. I’m actually quite pleased they’ve gone.
The British exceptionalism was very hurtful for the European project, especially while at the same time retaining special rules for THEiR Commonwealth… Some people need to learn the hard way, Germany certainly had to wake from our own superiority complex… It’ll take Britain a good long while yet to realize on what scale they have blundered
Yes the European Union is so ever grateful that Brexit has happened and now all other countries now know the benefits of staying and not make the same mistake.
Well said, I could mention a few, Greece Italy Spain Netherlands France. All have top level politicians who have recently had a change of heart, including the French right wing woman Le Pen
Never did I think of M.LePen as a"top level politician",a noisy one ,may be,like most extreme right fellows,but only such people ever mentioned the possibility of France leaving the EU,and this idea was never taken very seriously.
@Never repeats And then we have Guy Verhofstad who admires UK so much he wants them in immediately. Completely forgettying the insults Farage threw at him in the parliament. He does not speak for all of EU!
So basically: a Karen rants about leaving a prestigious business club, burns their membership card and storms out, and the other members are... just relieved they have one fewer Karen to deal with.
Another "intangible" was the way the EU stood up for and protected the interests of a small member state (Ireland) against an egregious attempt at bullying from the UK. Remember *most* EU members are smaller countries. Many of whom had their own historical issues with powerful imperial neighbours... For seven years the British ran determined diplomatic campaigns to persuade specific EU countries to throw Ireland under the bus. At one point they were running a diplomatic offensive in EU capitals asking the EU to *expel Ireland from the Single Market* as their "solution" to the Northern Ireland border issue. This obviously totally backfired - it could never have worked anyway as to do so would immediately unravel the entire point of the EU - and just increased EU solidarity and the members distrust of Britain and distaste at such despicable tactics. And that is one of the main reasons is why Britain will never be allowed to "rejoin".
😠 Are you a citizen of the European Union 🇪🇺? Or not? Which ‘Britain’ are you describing? Do you understand that change happens? The EU has changed? Six became ten. Ten became twenty eight. That Britain can change? Or is it that the one state that remains in political stasis is Britain? Your condemnation of millions because of a few is prejudice on stilts.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat Yes, "Britain can change". It’s a very-long term potential. The Irish in particular have very good historical and present reasons not to trust Britain. "Britain MAY change" but distrust lasts a long time - centuries, even. As for the EU in general, it will take perhaps a generation before trust may be restored.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat I'm Irish, as in born and raised in Ireland Irish (and thus EU) citizen. I know people in Britain on the Remain side don't want to hear this and it is upsetting - but you have to understand from the EU's PoV the absolutely appalling, dishonest, untrustworthy behaviour of the British government over the last 7 years... and indeed all their disruptive behaviour within the EU before that going back to the 1980s. Simply put your government (and your media with their endless unhinged barrage of insults) has comprehensively burned your bridges and the rest of the club simply don't want you back. And it'll take *decades* of consistently positive and constructive engagement from future British governments to overcome that extremely toxic and negative legacy that Brexit has left behind. You might not like this - but it is what it is.
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About time England did something to benefit Ireland 😀 - it's only taken 400+ years. Enjoy your prosperity Ireland, you deserve it! You will soon not need Britain at all and get your entire country back and earn the respect inside Europe that the Brits have always denied to you - great! Here, Brexit is a tragedy and a total failure while we slide into semi-fascism....... but I'm happy it is showing some benefit for the better, more deserving people of Europe.
@@caballoloco100 : And unlike the British we're glad to have them. We should be giving those hard working immigrants Irish passports instead of somebody in the UK whose granny was Irish and who has never set foot on Irish soil.
Though Ireland has problems of it's own mainly the lack of a domestic economy. While Ireland's GDP is very high this is almost exclusively due to foreign capital. That makes the Irish economy very precarious as that foreign capital can just choose to leave one day and leave Irish impoverished once more. The Irish government needs to make a lot more public investments and investments into domestic industry and service and not let foreign companies handle everything. This is very possible as it's also what Norway did with it's oil. Oil can often ruin an economy if you let it because it can make all the other sectors of the economy disappear and once the money flow stops the economy is no more which is what is happening in Venezuela right now and was a big part of the collapse of the USSR. The Irish government needs to raise taxes on the rich and foreign capital and set higher standards to share resources and information. So that the money goes to the Irish people and that even if foreign capital leaves there is a lot left.
@@MrMarinus18 I hardly think FDI will depart Ireland ...and to where, might I ask? It will def. grow, not decrease and as to non FDI economy, Im in my mid 60's and never have I seen it as strong. We need more workers & of course houses too but all that will and is happening.
Yup! As a portuguese, I remember seeing Nigel Farage as a Member of the Euoropean Parliement, insulting my european beliefs, and just laughing at the EU values. Nigel Farage offended me as a portuguese citizen. Good Riddance!
@@zedaadega7420 Nigel Fatarse is still earning a lot of money as a journalist for GB News, an extremely right wing UK channel (and not a very good one).
Brexit was/is the BEST thing that ever happened to the EU: out with the Trojan Horse (uk), we lost the burden that was slowing us down towards more integration, lots of financial and other benefits, and above all record-high support for the EU among EU citizens. People became more aware of the benefits of the EU. I see more EU flags than ever before. Thank you, Brexit! Thank you, Nigel! 🇪🇺🇪🇺
New Italian / Finnish and Swedish governments ALL want EU reformed just as UK asked for !! Oh dear......didn't you know ? You should try to keep up with news from Europe . I'm always surprised how ignorant Remainers are about events in Europe ?!?!
Just remember it was never really a UK decision,the referendum was a sham. 17 million people voted for Brexit. Out of a 66 million population. And the ones that did vote leave were simpletons easily mislead by a pack of lies from a noisy passionate minority. For most people in Britain we're living through the painful hell of what was obviously a stupid decision from the beginning to anyone with more than half a brain.
I am Dutch with young relatives living in the UK. I was devastated for their future when Brexit was "won" in 2016 but also amazed to hear that in Brussels in some quarters champagne was drunk to celebrate not having to deal with the UK within the EU any longer. The Eu has seen a period of more alignement and solidarity due to Brexit and the fall out did lead to benefits for likes of Amsterdam Brussels and Paris. Disappointing that Labour has completely giving up on debating Brexit, and the Tories try and gaslight the people of England about the so called benefits.
I've said as far back as 2015, Brexit should be celebrated as the best thing that will and has happened to the EU. It is the only useful contribution the UK ever made in all its 47 year membership. No more whinging, no more whining, no more Widdecombe and no more Farage. In the end, everyone got what they voted for and wanted. EDIT - spelling mistake
No, they were wrong, UK made France and everyone else inside the EU money, it worked well. Not as good as it could have, but it was not wrong to allow them in, and France despite what everyone says France would rather the UK stayed. However, the reason they were hesitant was because at the time the UK was known as the sick man of europe or something, it lost that and became good, but its quickly becoming the sick man of europe again.. The reason for this seems obvious, the UK has forgotten that Ireland/Scotland/Wales helped build the empire and think England did it all on its own. They forget without the Scottish, the industrial age in the UK might have never happened. The riches of the empire went to the English peoples heads and made them think it was all them. They cant even stand up and say sorry to Scotland for dragging them out of the EU, instead they tell them to shut up and tell them they wont let them have another referendum.. this to the people who spear headed the industrial overhaul of the UK and bled all over the world for the UK, sit down and shut up, dismissive. Some day the English will realize that Ireland, Scotland, and Wales were shinging diamonds, that they took and dumped in cow manure while drinking champagne .
@@geroutathatmy man saying one thing and its complete opposite in the same sentence. "UK made France richer" true. But not that much really. "UK was known as the sick man of Europe" not sure how a sick man can be of any help. By the time you guys joined the EU you were in the same situation third world countries were. Europe saved your arse, brought wealth to YOU. But you still bit the hand that fed you. No issues, suffer well !
Brexit is a subset of a much wider lesson that really needs to be learnt. Inventing an alternative version of reality to suit your world view does not change reality, but it can result in stupid or even destructive decision making.
Brexit is what happens when people don't listen to Permanent Secretary Humphrey: "Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. . . . We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing. . . . the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes." Some people call it cynicism, Secretary Humphrey calls it diplomacy.
@@careydepass130 Yeah, but unless you wrap it in cheese, Jesus, guns and American flags and present it with a movie trailer voiceover, they won't listen.
@@michaeladkins6 Well, I'm not British or American. My country doesn't exactly have a history of exceptionalism in the same way. In fact, seeing yourself as exceptional to everyone else has historically been seen as kinda cringe around here, both on an individual and national level. But it's pretty clear the basis of US exceptionalism is actually something they inherited from the British.
As a european i was really sad Britain left, but the english always had a foot on the break in the EU and its kinda nice that now there are less countries not pulling their part.
@@angelcabeza6464Hungary is problematic in the EU, but I don’t think Poland is. Poland is an emerging power in the EU, especially militarily. And they want to gain more power, which is understandable. So they are quite vocal about France and Germany, but that does not mean that they say no to everything. They actually usually vote in favor of EU strengthening most of the time. That’s for once because they know the EU benefit them, and, speculation on my part, for two, that counterpart to the UL which was the 2nd largest economy of the EU, Poland received a lot of money from Western Europe. So much so that their strong military is basically financed with just what France and Germany gave them in 2021 and 2022.
It is important to understand that the UK was never "punished" for leaving EU. They just got exactly what they asked for: "Non membership status." They are treated no worse than US or Canada. The infamous "visa waiver program" is more of a "tit-for-that" against the US policy of a paid not-quite-visa. It just affect the UK as well because they are not members.
Yeah nobody intelligent in the uk believes that. Just the Brexiters were given ridiculous promises by the likes of Farrage and Johnson that "We hold all the cards" and "we'll negotiate x/y/z". When that unsurprisingly didn't happen, rather than admit they were wrong they just stirred up more lies and blaming brexit's failure on any pathetic excuse they could think of.
I hope Donald Tusk's words come true: "There's a special place in Hell for all those who promoted Brexit, without the slightest idea how to carry it through".
This was in context of the Northern-Ireland protocol, potentialy igniting the IRA again. Leaving the EU is no reason to go to hell, just freedom of uninformed choice, allowing violence like that to return is.
That is probably correct. Certainly the EU does not seem to have harmed the EU in any way I am aware of. Some trade must surely have been lost, but all in all, it seems that so much investment is now coming to the EU from 3rd countries (e.g. USA) that would have gone to the UK, and companies have moved directly from the UK to the EU, or opened branches in the EU, that it more than makes up for the loss, at least in the long term.
@@deannilvalli6579and with a large portion of the pie still to come, mainly related to financial services, plus manufacturing (car industry) when product lines have reached their end of life.
Of course the EU is damaged by the UK leaving. It's a major economy. They were politically bothersome but this is what diplomacy and democracy are designed to handle. The UK is harmed more by Brexit but those who wish to make this seem like a positive thing are fooling themselves. It's an obvious failure to resolve disputes within the Union.
Frenchman, babyboomer here: I couldn't agree more with what you say Rob. Thank you. I am a great admirer of Charles de Gaulle and he knew Britain inside out (it does not mean he didn't like it). He knew Britain tried to enter the EEC after having failed to organise a trade organisation (w. Sweden, Denmark, etc) competing with the EEC. Britain wants the Union to function as IT wishes (Not a political integration, not a convergence system, not a defense project) and under its exclusive control. NO, we are EQUAL MEMBERS, helping each other, deciding TOGETHER, and contributing in a FAIR way. There is ABSOLUTELY no acrymony against the UK, but "chat échaudé craint l'eau chaude" we have learned our lesson with a vindicative England and will wait for AMPLE and EVIDENT proofs in case it wants to join again. Last point Rob: what you say we have gained (and it is true) is not taken away from the UK. We (the EU) are the ones that are now free from the "shackles of Westiminster". We have recovered our (EU) Sovereignty. Sadly, it shows that England is not anywhere near to the mindset of joining our Union.
What Ample and evident proofs would you require? and if your view is the Uk has never changed it’s attitude then presumably you’re dangling the prize of being in the EU in front of mostly people who never wanted the Uk to leave the EU in a really manipulative way. It’s like “I don’t want you back personally… BUT If i were to consider approving you again, you’d have to show me evidence that you’re not the same. Like what?? It doesn’t work that way.
That isn’t correct. After WWII, Church proposed a United States of Europe. However, Britain’s strong links with its colonies prevented that at the time. De Gaulle lived in London after France was invaded and recognised that if Britain was in the European Coal and Steel Community (later the EEC and EU) then it would diminish France’s joint role with Germany in moulding the organisation. As it was, it developed to suit France’s needs with huge and wasteful subsidies to agriculture. France did very well out of this. Britain’s attitude to the EU is largely mirrored by the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden (I am part Swedish) and they were happy to hide behind the U.K. whenever points of conflict arose. Britain was never the awkward partner (indeed its record for implementing EU law was better than many countries including Belgium). The difference was that it had the size and economic clout to make a nuisance of itself. The problem for the EU now is that the gravitational pull is moving to the eastern states. That will further lessen France’s influence and its economy will suffer. All economic forecasts show that the U.K. economy will outstrip France massively in the future, both on nominal GDP and nominal per capita GDP as well as on Actual Individual Consumption p, which is a better measure of economic prosperity. Be careful what you wish for is the lesson to be learned.
@@CM73878 That is the british mindset, blaming individual countries for your own mistakes. The EU however is UNITED against bullying behaviour and will never allow England back as it can never ever be trusted.
@@ecaeas4439 The UK Referendum: 16.1 million voted remain and the rest of the total 46 million registered UK voters did not bother to vote or voted to leave. So, we, in the EU are entitled to say that the UK (mostly England) voted to leave. I am not dangling any prize (yes it is one to be in the EU, no perfect but, working) we are simply saying: Not again for many years of discussion UNLESS there is a clear majority to be PART OF the EU (which the UK never was but rather fully convinced it joined a trade Union). From 1951 and then in 1957 (T. of Rome) it was about an "ever closer {political} union.
I’m an American but even with my limited knowledge I always saw Brexit as an emotional reaction. Not really thinking things through logically. I don’t get how becoming more isolated was supposed to help the economy.
Thanks for this analysis. As a German, I was initially afraid that Brexit fever could spread to the continent. Now I'm strengthened in my opinion that Brexit was pretty much the best thing that could have happened to Europe in the long run. Unfortunately, lower class people in the UK will suffer and upper class Brexiteers will create a stab in the back legend like the generals did in Germany after losing the First World War.
@Les Skeels As a Canadian looking from outside in. U managed to shoot yourself not only in the foot but in the balls too. Eu has managed to get rid off most quarreling member. U re like special needs kid.
Thanks ! I hope it's more useful than the expensive farce that is the European Parliament ...! Is that still meeting and discussing " important " matters . Which it has no powers to change ??
Being a rule taker was always known about Brexit and only the Brexiteers ignored that. It should make the Tory party subject to prosecution because it has had multiple consequences and caused a real loss of earnings.
If you were to combine the financial loss we have incurred since we formally left the EU, with the disastrous handling of Covid (inc. the utterly wasteful farce of the failed PPE contracts), AND the damage Lizz Truss did to the economy during her incredibly short time as PM.....then it would probably exceed £100billion. It's no wonder nothing works anymore, and we seem to be going backwards at an alarming rate. The Tories have done untold damage to our economy, our standing in both Europe and the wider world; and they have jeopardised the long term prospects for the UK as a political entity. All in this in just 13 years. A pretty incredible list of successive inept leadership, a cavalier attitude to regulations designed to keep us safe, and a complete inability to understand what being in the EU did for us when we were part of it. The Tories once prided themselves on being the party 'for businesses', but they don't even represent them now..... especially as most medium and big businesses in the UK opposed Brexit. It was the smaller businesses that supported it .....and the irony is that it's these smaller businesses that have been hit hardest by Brexit. Is this karma, or is it just ignorance and naivety? Whatever it is, they're the businesses that are going bust left, right, and centre. Brexit was sold as being the champion of small businesses. Now it's become their killer.
The Tory Party are a political front for the actual crooks operating within the UK. Unfortunately everyone knows all too well, the bigger the crime, the less chance anyone will be charged with anything, much less see the inside of a court room.
Of course the Brexit supporting Tories are to blame, but don't forget Labour in this discourse either.....instead of looking for moderate opposition they made a ultra left-wing Corbyn their figurehead....a figurehead by the way, that was not opposed to Brexit and even wanted to leave the EU in 1975....Labour didn't take a clear stance either.....
I remember how a British friend of mine, who voted Remain, nevertheless said to me "I am not sure the EU wil still exist in 3 years." Yes. He was still under the influence of the 30 years of British propaganda, thinking that the UK was so important that the EU could not exist without it. He thought there was some truth to the claims of Farage, that the UK would be the first of many countries to leave the EU. So far, I know of zero countries which want to join the UK. I know that Albania, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Serbia and Bosnia are desparate to join the EU. Poland has doubled its GDP since joining the EU. By the way, the UK is no longer hte second largest econmy in Europe. France has overtaken it. All in all, I am very pleased it has turned out so well for the EU. We are getting loads of investment that would have gone to the UK (examples are Tesla and Intel, but those are just a fraction, and they are worth over 6 billion). The EU is now stronger than ever, and the UK weaker than ever. James Acaster's brilliant analaogy was only partly true: ruclips.net/video/Xm6Id3Qt8Wk/видео.html The tea is not weaker, it is stronger. Only the teabag is now useless.
In past on holiday in EU the English pointed to EU support to infrastructure and said we paid for that. Not saying that now as EU continue going ahead with projects as England sinks
@@caterthun4853 The UK was one of the biggest recipients of EU funding, whether the social fund or the structural fund. The plaques are all over the UK. The UK has 9 of the 10 poorest regions in northern Europe. Yes, 90% are in the UK. Cornwall, northern Wales, Northeast England, Parts of the MIdlands.... Brits do not realise what a poor country they live in, with the tiniest houses in Europe (true fact!). It is not the poorest of southern Europe, but of northern Europe, easily- compare it to France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland.... they are all miles ahead of the UK and will be even farther ahead as time goes on, now that the UK is getting EVEN poorer. There's no cure for stupidity.
I remember my best friend in the UK saying, "We can get such a great trade deal with Japan once we are out of the EU". I asked, "How? The UK has less people, hence, less bargaining vs Japan compared to 450 Million EU people!". He didn't respond to that;-)
I would ask him what does he thinks he will sell to Japan at a better price +shipping that they can buy from the asian conturies. These people have 0 IQ. I mean it's not like you send a truck from Uk in the morning and at evening it's unloading in Nederland,France,Belgium , Denmark,etc.
Well Merkel seems to not be that great of a leader too. Just look what she did to Germany with her stupid gas relations to Russia. Really, how can a well educated leader of one of the more powerfull nations on earth like Merkel be so stupid. She took million of refugees so the rest of the could look at us and say oh how sweet are the germans, just to let them rot in a run down place without permission to work for YEARS. She run down our Train Infrastructure, she run down our mobil and High tech Infrastructure and in the End Germans and Europeans are poorer after her reign then before it. I would have taken Johnson as German Chancellor everyday over Merkel again.
I have spoken to a few pro brexit people who appeared to be fairly intelligent and I just could not get why they were pro brexit and then it dawned, they thought that the "sovereignty" thing mattered! Now, to me at least, sovereignty is totally meaningless in the present global order. If we want to trade with other countries we HAVE to go along with their standards and "THEIR" standards are essentially EU standards which are accepted worldwide! I often wonder how long it took for the citizens of ancient Rome to stop believing they were exceptional after the fall of the empire.
Fun fact: You can only become an EU member if you ARE a sovereign nation. The UK never relinquished her sovereignty any more than Germany, France, Italy or Denmark did.
but sovereignty is meaningless for a 65 million citizens country in a globalized world of 8+ billions ! Sovereignty is an insane concept form the past in the 21st century@@LarsPallesen
@@JABN97I don't think so: Western Roman Empire fell in 476 d.C. and Italy was conquered and divided in a lot of cities and little states since then. In 1861 it became united again, but had a lot of cultural differencies within, then in 1922 Mussolini took the power and started with the fascist propaganda and the crap of the "new Roman Empire" that none believed. United Kingdom had an Empire that lasted from XVII to the XX century, It's a recent thing that - sadly- still permeates british society. I'm Italian and I can't concieve the utter stupidity to leave the EU in a global economy
From NI, living in Ireland. Brexit has removed the talk of leaving the EU that was happening with Sinn Fein a decade or so ago. Now we are looking at England flailing about and slowly collapsing blaming everyone apart from themselves.
@@Garthdon Well, it DID work like that quite a long time, didn't it? But that was, well, back then. And now Ireland is a member of the EU and the UK is not any longer, and strangely that leads to the EU being more likely to support Irish interests than UK interests.
Like they always do. Mark my words, there will be referendums in North Ireland and Scottland (Wales won't do that, they are too far gone) to leave Great Britain and re-join the EU. Maybe not next year, maybe not in 2 or 3 but it WILL happen
As an American who similarly watched our country walk right into the lion's den in 2016 (cough Donald Trump), I can tell you with all of the confidence in the world...... it's okay to say you've made a mistake. And if you weren't the one to make that mistake - in fact cried the night you watched it go down - never feel guilty about being loud about it. Scream it, yell it, be obnoxious about it, because people *want* you pretend nothing happened. They want you to forget that it happened, and more importantly they want people to forget *who* let it happened. Never ever stop being loud.
Spot-on Rob. Having left for Denmark I can confirm the perspective from over here about Brexit and the solidification behind the EU. Even the right wing have gone very, very silent on the matter, as while there is still much respect for the Uk and it’s people here, Britain’s Brexit is viewed as a cautionary tale.
Despite all the pain and the damage, I think Brexit was the best long-term choice for UK. Brexit is finally enabling the EU to make the necessary reforms that UK was vetoing, and removed all the privileges and exceptions that UK had carved out for itself. Conversely, UK is learning the hard way (since it wouldn’t do so the easy way) the value of cooperation among equals. I expect UK, as a whole or piecemeal, will return into the EU in about 40-50 years. It will be a much different EU in which UK will have the same rights and obligations as any other member. Without Brexit, none of these things would happen. So, after all, Brexit might turn out to be a felix culpa.
The biggest Brexit problem we have now is that too many politicians, and too much of the UK voting public, cannot handle the mistake/failure of Brexit responsibly.
@@audreymcgready4329 I'm hoping the vast majority of these 'proud' Leave voters are being stubborn and blame the Tories for deceiving them. Whilst they won't admit the truth in public, I'm secretly hoping they admit the truth in the private company of the ballot box ...
Remember that De Gaulle was against the inclusion of UK in the European community and that Michel Roccart said that EU should, one day, get rid of it to progress. If UK citizens were for the Brexit, many European ones were for too ... for very different reasons. One cannot always have the cake and eat it too.
Let me correct you there ENGLAND thought London was Capital of EU . We SCOTS KNEW BETTER which is why we voted to REMAIN however as usual the little brits got their own way by sheer dint of numbers. Which is why they are so desperate to cling to their outdated union. They need to be able to throw their weight around , something they couldn't do in BRUSSELS.
Yeah I feel really pity and sad for you guys Scots North Irish and Wales You could didn’t even Got again a chance (after like 8 years and the only reason why Scotland votes against leaving UK/GB was because of EU.... to remain) to get independen and you’re guys even were Forced out of the eu
The UK was always half hearted and obstructive in the EU. The fact we never joined the euro showed the UKs intentions and paved the way for Brexit. De Gaulle was right.
"The fact we never joined the euro" Is that the same Euro that countries such as Latvia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Serbia and Estonia use? All these countries have inflation far in excess of UK, they cannot set their own interest or exchange rates. You think that's good?
Fun fact : the UK was VERY influential in making these ‘EU laws’. British commissioners were instrumental in writing these policies. Insider view : Bobby McDonagh "I sat at the EU’s negotiating table for years - and saw how great Britain’s influence was.." .. For three decades I sat around the European negotiating table, walked the Brussels corridors and networked in EU capitals. The truth is that, throughout the years of its membership, the UK has been particularly effective in the pursuit of its interests.. Like other member states, the UK has been represented around every EU negotiating table at every level as the decisions have been thrashed out. Sadly, many British people are not even aware that there were such tables to sit around. British EU commissioners helped to shape EU legislation. British nationals have held key positions in all the EU institutions.."
A big problem is Brits are worfully uneducated about how politics works even within our own country , let alone the EU. When I was at school we were taught absolutely nothing about the EU, our tole in it, its benefits to us, how we are represented within it, how influential we were in jt, etc
@@cretinousswine8234another problem: Brits always need to be "the most influential" " world leading" "instrumental in". God forbid they are told they are just like any other member.
That is also because for many decades the Britisch people were told time and time again that everything wrong withing the UK, was the EU's or Brussels fault. The Britisch politicians could always blame the EU for THEIR OWN mistakes and bad decisions. People grew up hearing these lies, so ended up believing it.
Honest commentary. Asian here from Asia. Too many British opinion makers amongst the Brexiteers were, in my opinion, suffering from their "Empire" hangover when they could force trade under the power of the gun. They simply did not grasp that the UK, in PPP terms, is only the 10th largest economy in the world. Many years ago, as an extension of my business in Asia, I had set up an export unit in the UK for export to the EU creating around 150 technical jobs for Britishers. After 2016 it was clear as daylight to me as to where this was going. I sold off that business while I still could. For an ordinary entrepreneur like me investing my own hard earned money the rocky road ahead was clear as hell. Without the EU and with only poodle status with USA, the UK is at risk of becoming an also ran both economically as well as politically.
Brexit was without a doubt among the dumbest decision the English inflicted on the rest of us. That's why I vote SNP, to get the English out of Scotland once and for all. Then we can re-join the EU without those morons south of the border. Apologies to the non-morons south of the border, but you're outvoted by the idiots.
Sorry to burst you buble, but this is not the truth. Brexit is not a competition between the UK and the EU. There are no winners or loser, it is not a game. Brexit is nothing for the EU. It is a loss, yes. However it is business and nothing personal. For example: it is not a political issue in Europe. No politician is asked about his feelings about Brexit. It is not on the political landscap. Maybe German car manufacturers want to do more business in the UK, but the same can be said about business in the USA or even Russia. Brexit is an internal political conflict isolated in the UK. It has more to do with politicians that want to be PM than with the EU. Poland and Hungary are bigger issues for the EU than the UK.
@@dirkvandaele4466 I do not completely agree. Ironically, EU got the brexit benefits that the brexiteers promised for UK. Although EU took a small economic loss, EU came out politically stronger. Of course there are still issues, and there will be in the future. But, strangely enough, without the current UK govt, EU has a better chance of coping with them.
@@EllieD.Violet except for us in Ireland. Because we share a border with the UK we have to listen to Brexit BS every now and again, or there’s a segment in the news about expanding port services to the continent to get around the UK. But the frequency of those stories has dropped in the past few months..
@@vullings1968 I can not express this more clearly: the Brexit was 100% an internal British issue. Almost every Brexit debate was fought out by native English speakers. The language barrier is important. Voters could only consume English media and not native English speakers are at a disadvantage in a debate. This creates a bias so that even pro-EU Brits do not fully understand the EU. Brexit has indeed had a negative effect on Frexit, however that did not effect the Front National much. They just changed the message to conspirancy and deep state baloney with the same effect. The Front National is still anti-EU and will make it difficult for the EU when they would come to power. Maybe the biggest effect Brexit had is on the business side. A lot of business is coloured by English media which is not always pro-EU. The negative Brexit effects can change that bias. As the EU is the trendsetter in regulations, a pro-EU voice in business can be important.
You didn't mention the most important Brexit benefit and most likely reason it was pushed through so insanely: London and the Channel Islands are now less affected by the new EU rules for banking. The amount of corruption I have seen in the UK is as breathtaking as the British public's ability to overlook it. Due to Brexit the ruling class can now continue to hide the profits and invest them in the most unethical and therefore profitable ways without anyone noticing. This would not have been possible if the EU had stayed in the Common Market.
The one and only reason for BREXIT, was precisely that. But I do admire the skill involved by those who not only sacrificed an entire nation, but also fooled 52% of them into thinking they had won a massive democratic victory !
That was probably the main reason for a brexit,to have control of the money on red busses that they would distribute among them self…Uhh i mean the people and NHS and small businesses . Instead off Europ to have controll of it, and redistribute it to were was needed.
I keep being reminded of the woman in Sunderland who was sitting on someone's shoulders wildly celebrating the Leave victory. I wonder of she is quite so enthusiastic today?
I think the problem was for 40 years we in the UK were fed lies about the EU & Commone Market by our right wing media, BBC, ITV, both political parties and so on. I don't recall a single good word or explanation of how the EU worked. I don't think any of those I mentioned even understood the EU themselves. This always pissed me off. Glad I left the place when I did, before Brexit.
This is spot on. Even after its exit from the EU, the right wing press in Britain continues to bleat on about the EU, and how unfair it all is. For British conservatives and their boosters in the press, the EU has been a wonderful foil, distracting from their poor record at home. Even when out of the club, still blaming the club😅
It's a pretty common thing. Finding someone to blame works great for politicians. A lot of the independentism in Spain has grown the same way. I'm not saying all of it has no real point, there are historical reasons for it, but having the politicians putting the blame of every local problem on the national government during 40 years has helped its growth inmensely.
@@francolinos7338 millions of people are not suffering from brexit. What on earth are you on about? They way you talk it's as if there was riots on the streets and people were starving to death. Nugget.
Poignant and accurate on every point, Rob. With Brexiters in denial (it's the wrong brexit; or we haven't done brexit) we are the butt of the joke that we created. As usual, there is no honesty from our two largest parties, leaving us in deadlock and decline. The campaign of lies and deceit was successful, yet there is no redress (economic or legal) for the chief liars. The root cause: our political system is not fit for purpose. Who will fix it?
When they say it's the wrong brexit or brexit hasn't happened they just mean that they haven't seen any benefits. Well we all knew there were no benefits.
@@deviousdescent9010 we all know that it meant a vicious establishment of a fascist state with brown shirts (Stella string vests) and concentration camps.
I lived in England for 10 years and I was very surprised to here quite often the concept of England vs Europe. I have never heard this kind of talk in Sweden or in any other European country. In general it feels like most of the other countries in EU actually likes each other and being able to working in different countries etc. One old lady in England said that "Noone cares about us, why should we care about anyone else?" and I thought that was such a sad attitude. What about working together to avoid another WW and to get closer to each other. I always liked the spirit of EU: bring us closer together.
Here's my experience. I'm an Anglophile from Croatia. Negative impacts of Brexit: British clothing and shoes (and we are talking about pricey stuff) is more expensive now. Deals are much harder to find and are not as good. Some shops I used to buy from no longer ship to continent and honestly I fear they will go under (German retailers are aggressively fighting for this space). My favourite shirt naker bankrupted (but that was first started with COVID). Positive: job opportunities in my country. since I work in pharmaceutical industry for which UK was always a hub for Europe especially the area I work in (drug safety). After Brexit a lot of this high paying jobs are now available here - remotely. Best example according to EU regulations each pharma company needs to have key responsible person for EU. Before it was almost exclusively in UK even for companies from the continent. Now all roles along with supporting infrastructure and talent moved to continent. In my company the Netherlands. Some of my British colleagues moved to EU because of Brexit.
It totally turned out as expected. Everyone in the EU said it would and the Tories probably also knew. But Brexit was a way to keep the xenophobic plebs happy. It’s a cautionary tale about racism destroying a country.
racism alone is not sole reason behind this...the real danger lies in populist ambiguous messages from demagogues pushing any agenda for their personal/political points...this time directed to the nationalistic elements in the society
It was a double win for the tories. Hold onto power by appeasing the racist plebs (a strategy they've stuck to to this day) and in addition, the deregulation of the UK market and laws post brexit meant big business could get away with bad practise, corruption and activities that were previously illegal. The sewage dumping around UK beaches is a prime example. As is the amount of corruption and tax evasion we see now.
@@cretinousswine8234 "It was a double win for the tories. Hold onto power by appeasing the racist plebs (a strategy they've stuck to to this day)" They have? Then why do the Tories spend £millions daily to house hordes of young men coming across in dinghies to claim asylum? Is that a special Tory way of appeasing racists?
@@ab-ym3bf yup it's called exceptionalism - comes from deep seated national arrogance and delusions. Very sad for us but funny for you guys. It was only thanks to being able to live and work in the EU during the 80's that I could get off the unemployment line in the UK and make a decent life for myself and I thank all the European friends and neighbours that welcomed and helped me. You see, the British can't do that - they always want incomers to feel inferior and know their place. We didn't really ever deserve the honour and responsibility of being in an enlightened group of nations like the EU and now we've deservedly lost it. So now my children cannot have the same benefit as I had thanks to a bunch of lying Brexit b-s. How I hate them, not personally, but as a group who have ruined our country and are actually still proud of themselves. Good luck to all the good people of Europe trying to find ways nations can cooperate in peace - I believe the future of the human race depends on it. Sadly my country screwed up the most optimistic sign that humanity was coming to its senses at last - away from the nationalism that has scarred us all for the past 1000 years. Every generation destroying what the previous one built just because someone waves a different colour flag - nah nah, we're better than you! Poor, sad, pathetic Britain is still doing it.
My Dad grew up in the Slums of Glasgow during the Great Depression. He had to quit school at 14 to got to work for 1 cent an hour to help support the family of 6 children. He was drafted into WW II at the age of 17, despite being blind in one eye, because of his Labour Union activities during Wartime. He became a Socialist. He participated in the brutal Southern Italian Campaign, and was in the British Military Police in Post War Palestine and during the Exodus; the modern re-creation of Isreal. He traveled the world and held Citizenship in Scotland, England, Australia and finally Canada. If my Dad taught me anything; he taught me to cut through the BS and don't let the Truth hold you back from being a shit disturber. This one's for you Dad. RIP: In scrolling through a good portion of the top comments, I couldn't help but notice that no one made reference to the fact that London has been the preferred destination for Dictators, Criminal Drug Cartels, Human Traffickers, Illegal Arms Dealers, Sex Slavery Merchants, Organized Crime Groups, Millionaires, Billionaires, and ruZZian Oligarchs for the last TWENTY Years. Londongrad is the one stop shop for Comprehensive Money Laundering Needs. Before Brexit, the EU was preparing new laws to clamp down on money laundering activity. This activated the The Russian Psychological Warfare Apparatus to bombard the British Public through social media; massive amounts of misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, and propaganda about the EU and to deliberately influence certain individuals to promote the Brexit idea. This was also hopefully going to destabilize Europe, NATO and Democratic values in Western Countries. Brexit was a very successful Misinformation Campaign by ruZZia, its minions of internet Trolls, and a small group of political/financial opportunists, while many of UK citizens are either oblivious, in denial or simply don't care.
No, they didnt change the mind of millions. It could have happened without any foreign influence. And of course, theres was also influence from eruopa for staying. So, the British decided. No one else.
@@childoftheuniverse2644 Hey, thanks so much. I only have a highscool education but during my whole life I've always asked why things happened the way they do. As a consequence I've gravitated towards reading non fiction material and have always been a news junkie, while observing human behavior. Somehow I'm able to see patterns and the unseen elements manipulating those patterns, and the dire consequences of ignorance.
Great to be in the EU and to be rid of the great brake on peaceful integration . No more special rebates , concessions or exceptions for the English in particular. De Gaulle was right, after all.
Brexit also quieted down the French separatists here in Canada. Like Brexit they had promised their voters they could, 'have it all', losing by only a fraction of a percent in the last referendum. When Brexit was announced they heralded it as the model for them to emulate. Of course, in the following months, as Britain was informed that they couldn't cherry pick the best parts and if the left, they were truly on their own, the separatists became very quiet over here since what happened to England was exactly what the federal government had told Quebec what would happen to it if they left.
Happy that uk has no say in the EU anymore,no more obstructing the EU progress ,no more throwing toys out if the pram,no more meddling on other countries behalf in EU business happy days for the EU tough luck Britain.
Rob, don't know if you've seen it, but there is a "Digby Jones index". It contains all articles of business moving or closing down because of Brexit. Makes for quite the read.
@@sabinenadal8470 Neither did Lord Digby Jones. It seems he was more busy enjoying the beverages in the bar of Peers' Dining Room at the House of Lords than actually informing himself, his peers and the people what brexit would mean.
Actually, lots of businesses are opening in the UK. 753 thousand new businesses were started between April 2021 and March 2022. This is the second highest number of businesses started in UK history in one tax year.
I’m an Irishman living in the U.K. for 13years and will do so for the next 2yrs, leaving after that. But I went home around the time brexit happened and talk in pubs were, “ good on Britain taking back control”. My argument was, we’ve not really considered the fall out of it. But people were going, you’ll figure it and Ireland will follow. Couldn’t go back home for close to 3 years due to covid. But when I did get back, the conversation was “ what you idiots up to over there, you seem to be going from bad to worse”. I don’t know if the people who originally supported irexit went to ground or had a change of heart. But that conversation is definitely not up for debate and if does, they just say “ look how U.K. is doing”
Ireland had the highest level of support for the EU even before Brexit, usually in the mid 90% range. Irexit was a handful of morons with funding from the UK that were too incompetent to even set a flag on fire. They were never relevant to anyone other than lazy reporters looking for easy clickbait headlines.
I don't know who you were talking to you in Ireland there definitely was very little appetite pre 2016 for irexit all opinion polls were 93 % pro European membership nobody was talking about sovereignty following Britain
@@johnareidy oh their was support granted small in numbers. This was taken up by far right political groups around Europe. Don’t hear them talk about it now, they know it’s a dead duck in water. If brexit had been a success they would be screaming for it. I’m delighted that Ireland is very pro EU, yes the EU has its critics, but overall it’s been a success story
I can attest that after brexit, every single politician and political party that were eurosceptics in my country, just disappeared. If you ask them now they will swear they never suggested leaving the EU or the single currency.
The UK was not only a roadblock with its tantrums to get special exemptions, but also a willing backdoor for the US to meddle in EU affairs. So, when the UK once again threw a tantrum for its home audience and threatened to leave the EU to leave if it didn't get its way, the mainland finally had enough and took them up on that offer!
Super commentary. One must ask the question: who in the UK benefits most from leaving the EU? People who have lots of money and aim to not only keep it, but increase their lot by not paying tax. The average Brit has no chance, now.
@@annemitchell6144 Yes. They will benefit 0,08% over a time period of ten years from that deal. The loss of GDP is now admitted to be around 4% per year. UK would need some 500 similar deals to cover the annual loss of 4%. Despite being a large, advanced economy with strong trading relationships in the Indo-Pacific, the United Kingdom had to meet the CPTPP’s high standards for market access requirements, sanitary and phytosanitary standards, and binding investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) provisions to join CPTPP. The accession process, chaired by Japan, required the United Kingdom to reach agreements with the 11 CPTPP members: Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, New Zealand, Singapore, and Vietnam. CPTPP members would not concede to the United Kingdom receiving many derogations or exceptions to the agreement’s binding commitments and high standards. As the CPTPP’s first precedent-setting applicant, Japan was insistent that the United Kingdom accept virtually all existing CPTPP rules for entry. Parties to the agreement also looked for a resolution to the long-simmering UK-EU dispute about the Northern Ireland Protocol as a condition for Britain’s CPTPP entry, a concern that was assuaged in early March 2023 with the finalization of the Windsor Framework before a recent CPTPP negotiating round in Phu Quoc, Vietnam. The final roadblock to UK accession was a last-minute impasse between the United Kingdom and Canada over agricultural market access. With the United Kingdom no longer party to the EU-Canada Trade Agreement (CETA) following Brexit, disagreement over Canadian access to the British beef market emerged as a key bilateral trade tension in ongoing negotiations for a bilateral UK-Canada FTA. Canada objected to Britain’s CPTPP accession with this issue in mind. Only in mid-March 2023 did officials from Ottawa partially relent at the request of Tokyo, reaching a settlement with counterparts in London to take up these market access concerns in bilateral, rather than multilateral, negotiation, clearing the way for UK CPTPP accession.
Everyone in EU was happy, that UK was so stupid to leave EU. I don't think, that anyone wants UK back, as long as it is not a republic and the Tories lead the parliament.
Whelp... given that the King has cancer, Princess Of Wales has been kidnapped by aliens, Harry n Megan are as Persona Non Grata as ever... and according to one poll the Toeies might win just 21 seats in the election... so we're looking at 2026 then.
I wonder how bad it will have to be in UK before the populace will support a return to the EU even with the standard requirements of €Euro currency and Schengen membership? Probably a lot worse than I am prepared to wait for.
I don't think it'll be in our lifetime unfortunately. The EU wouldn't want us back even if we wanted to. I lost my 10 year old daughter to brexit, she is half French and her mother took her to France after brexit. My only comfort is that she won't suffer through the mistake the UK made.
To be fair, look at how many unsavoury British MEPs, got democratically voted in to take up seats in the EU. Thus being able to erode confidence about the EU from within . But, ,ironically, they'll be getting a nice EU pension.
To think, Brexit has barely begun. Once the European financial sector has moved to where it belongs in the EU and to a regulatory compliant US, Little Britain will lose all revenue gained from that. In short, the future is grim. 😂
Not only that. Many EU funds (like Erasmus) still run in the UK. Many benefits and support that national parks, museums and farmers get. Those will expire in a year or two and then you will see the state of which the UK will be in. If they will want to rejoin, they will certainly need to drop the British pound and other things that the UK was always excluded from.
Brexit was not a mistake, if anything is the best event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin wall. The challenge ahead now, is to make sure they stay out.
I think us EU citizens can't be thankful enough that brexit happened. UK had a never ending list of special wishes, always wanted extra treatment and used to block so many important decisions. Luckily that's over. Thank you so much brexiters. We owe you. 👍🏽
That's the Brit Leavers for you - got nothing to speak of except arrogance, insults and lies. Scum ...... and we have to live with them. Since Brexit this has been such a horrible place to live but as our freedom was taken away, we now have no choice but to stay confined to our sad small failing island. And our government just tries to show how ugly they can be to the worlds most unfortunate people. It pleases the Brexiters who have nothing else to show for our national madness except joy at others misfortune. Anyway, seemingly we live in the Pacific now so nah nah 😂🤣😂. Bloody idiots.
I've escaped communistic Poland for my son to give him a better future ,my son was 2 years old, now he applies for.polish passport saying I was lucky I was born in Poland mum as Europe have such better quality of life!(he often travels there and works there) so he is moving out by end of the year. He works in medical labs
I agree with everything you said in this video, but one really significant thing you did not mention in the video, is that EU laws that impact trade are compliant with WTO rules, which was portrayed as being desireable as the sole basis of a No Deal Brexit. Like a house, WTO rules are the foundation of international trade, and they are followed by the majority of countries in the world. They are the bare minimum rules, and UK and EU trade laws comply with them, because we and all the member states in the EU are WTO members. And the Trade and Cooperation Agreement we signed with the EU is based on those rules, along with the parts that relate to borders between the UK and the EU. So, the Brexiteer Tory governmeny selling the idea that there would never be customs checks on the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland was a lie. And they signed the TCA knowing that. That's how deceitful the Tories were. their incompetence is costing us millions of pounds everyday. Just in lost custom duties, the HMRC stated we were losing £800 million of customs duties every quarter since leaving the EU.
He may be less stupid, but he's even more despicable. What he's willing to for his own gains while destroying democracy is reprehensible. But sadly, just like in UK, populists fall for the lies and let it go on. It's easier to blame someone else for your poor position in life than taking your own responsibility. But it'll only make things worse. Some day, and it may be sooner than we think, their eyes will finally be opened and we may see a shift to better politics. For a while at least...
As a U.S citizen who has been playing with the idea of moving to Europe. I take it from this video, finically, that it would be better to either go to Ireland or the European Union mainland and not to include the U.K as one of choice.
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 Thank you for telling me that, I will look into that. after all I am interested in trying to learn another language, especially the ones from the areas in which my family came from, but as it stands right now if I where able to go to Europe right now it would be difficult for me to communicate with people using their native language. I mean I know most, if not all, European countries have a good portion, not all, of their people who can speak english. but if I tried to speak their language right now I would probably end up asking for a toilet on top of my head when I was actually just asking for directions. Lol.
Bravo for this video! What a whole lotta truths in 12 minutes! And remember people, only a few big mouthed politicians promoted Brexit, but more than half of the UK voted to leave. One doesn´t get lied to, unless he wants to, or simply just doesn´t care.
Brexit was an unmitigated catastrophe for the UK economy, on so many levels. In 2016, I tried my best to persuade people not to vote leave, but so many sincerely believed the lies told by the Brexiteers, I was just astonished at the level of ignorance, and anti-foreigner prejudice - it was easy to whip up xenophobia and dupe them with blatantly false promises. However, the ultimate act of irresponsibility was the Tory Government going ahead with Brexit, they could have, in the national economic interest, chosen to suspend Brexit, or even hold a second referendum a year, or two later. Self-interest always wins in the Tory Party, and those wealthy Tories that wanted to escape the new EU legislation, scrutinising, and regulating their financial affairs in the interest of public transparency - opted to put their own greedy financial affairs ahead of those of the British people. We all now know, that it was the corrupt Tory Party that sunk Britain’s economic future!
They shouldn't have had the referendum in the first place. Don't ask idiots to make decisions about topics they haven't even the faintest understanding about. It was a pathetic attempt to try to win votes badly from ukip that backfired. They're still not the greatest offenders though. Boris Johnson and Nigel Farrage should go down in history as the two people who destroyed the uk's economy.
As an Irish person i feel very sorry for the sane people of Britain ...but very angry towords the miopic fools who led their country to this sad place and endangered the peace and wellbeing of my country without thought amd despite MANY AND REPEATED warnings. I think Britain will be in a very bad state by the time they get around to asking for E.U. membership....and how can they rejoin abd keep the pound ...thst will hurt.
I'm sorry but a 10 year-old school child could have figured out that cancelling all of the favorable trade agreements with the EU was going to come back to haunt us. This is what happens when people listen to rich Tories who already had a plan to increase their own profit at the expense of hundreds of thousands high of paying jobs leaving for the EU, farms that can't operate without EU workers, goods can't be delivered without EU drivers, UK fisherman struggling because of territorial waters issues, and high customs/duties on UK products that now make them practically unsellable. Nice job Tories..... Why do you still have jobs? If this happened in the companies YOU own or in the private sector in general, you'd be fired and blacklisted in an instant. Complete shite.
There are three things that need to be pointed out here that have been highlighted starkly by Brexit for the Uk and that people really do need to take note of. The constant demands by an ever-growing majority in the Uk to either reignite closer ties with the EU or drop the idea of leaving and just rejoin can no longer be ignored by the government but the problem is not only is that government becoming ever more entrenched in the idea of 'Well if we can leave fully then we had better try and make it work idea' highlights the disparity and disconnect between those in Westminster and the people of the Uk as awhile no matter their political tribal goals. Brexit has shown itself for what it is and the fact that a large number of people not only predicted this would happen in the run-up and since also laid out exactly why it would not work for the Uk which brings us to the first two points. The EU has made it plain that they will require proof of major political and social reform inside the Uk before they will ever consider entertaining an application to rejoin and who could blame them. What they are seeing currently is a monumental disparity between what the people want and what the politicians say they want and yet neither side can establish a dialogue with the other. Brexiteers, who have worked tirelessly for over 50 years to get the Uk out now feel duty-bound to cling to their ideologically driven ideals the people on the other hand have seen their standard of living crash in a spectacular fashion and witnessed all manner of corruption within their own government go unaddressed. Do they trust Westminster, well would you? having seen literally billion wiped off the value of our economy and further billions blatantly stolen in broad daylight by politicians and their familiars yet find themselves powerless to do anything meaningful about this parlous situation locked as they are into this ridiculous FPTP voting system by the very politicians they are trying to bring to heel so reforms are high in the agenda. Not only political but social and that starts with education where successive governments in the Uk uncertain of their place in the EU have worked hard to exclude anything from the curriculum that even mentioned the EU at all leaving the populace ignorant of the EU at worst and ambivalent towards it at best, they don't understand it for the most part and those of us that do find themselves easily silenced by a government hell-bent on proving its point no matter what the cost. The very timeline of Brexit left a lot in the Uk very uneasy as to its ultimate motives, why would a country that had everything its people needed simply throw all that away for what was obviously a very bleak future indeed. They ask themselves what was it their corrupt political classes and their financial backers were gaining because it soon became obvious the people certainly were not and never would. Detractors were quick to point out that the silence from the EU on these matters was proof positive that leaving was the only option but in fact, all it proved was not only did they not understand how the EU worked, and I mean at all, but also that they had no intention of finding out how it worked or allowing the population that privilege clearly proving that the EU was correct to demand both major political reforms in the Uk take place but also that social reforms be seen to take place and a consensus form among those people to rejoin and more importantly engage with the EU itself. The final point is one of historical importance to the argument and goes right back to DeGaul's strident and now proven objections to the Uk joining the European group in the first place, He recognised just how divisive the Uk could be to the block overall and how the machinations of its political classes would and did prove to be a serious problem going forwards. Described by some as British exceptionalism it was in fact something deeply ingrained in the people of the Uk that they were somehow entitled to everything because the world owed them everything and that has not changed even today. Shambling political figures bumbling off to Europe to teach those mud hut dwellers who the boss dog around these parts is how a lot of us see our own politicians and the fact that those same self-entitled politicians see no problem with any of this highlights the disconnect between them and the people they are meant to serve and some of them really are as thick as mince and obviously in the game simply to stuff public money into their own pockets, they are as a group tragically comical and as such the real enemy of this state. Degaul was right all along and the fact that his objections were so easily brushed aside by the Uk Heath government showed only how duplicitous the Uk government could actually be. So Political and social reforms inside this sheep-infested plague island are going to have to take place before progress can be made and it is to be hoped the EU stands its ground and ensures that happens and holds off dealing the Uk back into the game until it can prove it can play nice with its friends across the channel.
This is exactly the sort of thing any over-entitled person or country should not only get but expect from their entitled actions. I just feel sorry for those UK citizens who did not support this idiotic move.
It's worse than that. In the 1950s UK government was ratcheting up the rape of remaining colonies' wealth through manipulation of the sterling area, etc. This was the metropole's thanks for the thousands of dead and millions of tons of materiel provided by these colonies during WWII. There are no colonies now to plunder (TG) and oil revenues have largely been pissed up a car park wall. So, with Brexshite, UK is truly alone and for the first time in centuries. It's going to be a tough transition to being just another medium-sized country.
Not really. The EU and its members now have 40plus years of experience in UK behaviour as a member, and as former member. More items on the list of "reasons to say NON"
I actually think we might see the UK breaking up. If Scotland votes for independence and Northern Ireland joins Ireland that will just leave England and Wales. Not much of a union.
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This is the very best English language video concerning Brexit and the UK-EU relations I have seen on RUclips. I pinpoints exactly all the subjects and details most British citizens never seemed to have understood, like the UK mistake to believe that the EU is nothing but a giant supermarket where the British should pay as little as possible and benefit as much as possible. When they discovered that the EU was much more than that, in fact, the project of a Confederacy of ethnically and linguistically closely related sovereign nations, that are prepared to transfer important parts of their sovereignty to common institutions, all what the different UK governments did was trying to sabotage these efforts, making Britain in the process the hated parasite bully of Europe.
We were in the top 3 most influential countries in the EU. We had a very exclusive and priveliged deal in our membership in the EU. We threw it all away, the stupidity of it is truly baffling.
Because it was a scam. The ultra rich elites wanted to pilfer the govt / economy to get richer, but needed to get those pesky EU laws that prevented them, out of the way.
Thank the Ra Ra Ra Crowd.
I'd say the top of those 3.
British politicians created the EU as it is now - common market.
@@jerryorange6983
I wouldn't say that
Truly treacherous , more like !
How the Brexiteers persuaded the UK that we could have the best bits of the EU without membership never did make sense. The EU would never allow a member to leave yet still have EU benefits to do so undermines the whole purpose of the EU.
I guess it’s the English exceptionalism
UK got sold a unicorn, only to find out later it was a donkey with a carrot glued to its head.
im pretty sure uk had the best deal of any eu country, and they wanted the same deal without any responsibility.
They could do that because most of the stupid inhabitants of England never understood that many of the things that made border crossing trade and travel in Europe so easy were positive consequences of EU membership. They regarded all those advantages for granted even outside the EU.
@@EllieD.Violet
Hi Ellie 👍
Can confirm. In Italy and Germany, two countries I know well, a lot of people who were very vocal about exiting the EU, have become very silent.
In France, as well !
Marine Le Pen has completely evacuated the proposal in her program and François Asselineau, our "very soft" Nigel Farage, looks more isolated than ever.
And add the Spanish to it as well.....
You can add the Austrians as well
my Italian relatives have and are moving to the UK
@@fbean2489 It was very small in Spain, tho. Keep in mind that Spain started the join proccess right after the dictature was over, so in our minds the EU is associated to democracy and modernity, while nationalism is associated to shame. However, it is true that the extreme right parties were starting to play with the idea of being anti-Europeists, and that is not happening anymore.
German living in the Netherlands here:
the Brexit was indeed good for the EU and the reasons layed out nicely in this video. It killed support for leaving the EU in all the other states and the biggest Handbrake is now out.
Also , living in the Low Lands, we saw a lot of business with the UK whither away BUT happily been replaced with new business inside the EU , especially with countries like Poland, Croatia, Czech rep. and so on...
I do think in the Netherlands many still complain about the EU rather than transfer those grievences into actual calls for reform.
@@MrMarinus18 Don't worry about that, complaining is just a way to pass the time here, we'll complain about anything, you'll get used to it.
There used to be a strong anti eu sentiment her, but ever since Brexit it all but died out.
@@MinorZero But I also think the EU needs reforming and right now is the best time to do so. With the cost of the war and the sanctions against Russia as well as the changing world of geo-politics, Covid still fresh in people's mind and neo-liberalism increasingly been seen as discredit there is no better time to reform the EU.
I am happy to see the strikes going on but we need to make more ambitious and specific demands to the EU.
One of the ones I would like is a minimum corporate tax for countries in the single market and increased trade tariffs on countries that have a lower tax to bring it up to the same level.
Mandatory worker representation on corporate boards and a veto right for them to give it teeth.
transparency
@@MrMarinus18 Sadly so far Germany saw it as core responsibility to block any and all positive change for or comming out of the EU. Well at least with the UK out it's one country less doing so now.
I am surprised that Brexit is still being talked about. In European Union hardly anyone talks about it anymore.
The UK is in Europe, I think you mean the EU.
@@ruairievans Only because they can't paddle their smelly island away from the continent. Everybody knows what he meant.
It's only talked about by sado remoaner rejoiners here in the UK .
@@lloydnaylor6113 more and more every month from what it sounds like over here
@@headhunter1945 yes , it's getting a bit boring that they are still whining about it after 7 years.
Brexitists: “they’ll need us more than we need them!”
EU: “no, I don’t think we will.”
See, this is what I never got! At it's most basic,selling is a numbers game and the easier you make it for your customers the more chances you have of making a sale. Making it difficult and more expensive to buy from you is lunacy and that's what's happened here. In the end you can argue about why people voted for this but it's simply numbers...better in than out. Hi from the continent!
@MyFaceBeHi EU to the UK:
At first I was afraid, I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live without you by my side
But then I spent so many nights thinking how you did me wrong
And I grew strong
And I learned how to get along
All lies and stupid ones too. Of course the EU will survive better than Britain - they're a market of nearly 500m people and we're insignificant in world trade terms. I wish the EU renewed success in creating the greatest peaceful project for human cooperation and peace and I live in shame at what my ridiculous country has done and the unforgivable insults we threw at decent polite peaceful friends. That's what happens when you let Vlad Putin write your script! Nothing could be less true than the nazi jibe but since when did lying get in the way of Brexiters mouthing off and giving us all a bad name.
@archon101That's not right, only 17.4 million actually voted to leave the EU out of 48 million electorate. And in the Dec 2019 election the tories only got 14 million votes out of 48 million or more electorate, they only got 44% of the actual votes and yet they have a massive majority now to basically do whatever they want. We don't live in a democracy, our first past the post voting system isn't fit for purpose or democratic. We need a proportional voting system, one that means every vote actually counts
@archon101 people just need to stop voting for the con party
I can say that from the perspective of North America, the brexit experience has made the UK a less relevant nation. The EU is a super power in economic terms and a strong advocate for health and environmental protection.
Is that why they struggled with the C19 plandemic, and behind with vaccines
Indeed. Unfortunately the little englanders believed the conmen when they told them they were special...
@@alex_n8863 People just hear what they want to hear 🤷♂
@@alex_n8863
They indeed are special.
Like in special needs.
@@spugelo359 what a fool believes, dooby brothers.
no wise man has the power to reason away. what seems to be.
I'm Irish and I used to purchase stuff from the UK all the time but after Brexit It just became way too burdensome and expensive to buy anything from them, so after a little shopping around I found a good supplier based in Germany and I've been buying from them ever since. I found the pricing slightly cheaper because I don't have to convert to sterling or pay customs charges. I find the shipping is a lot faster and a lot cheaper from Germany so the UK's decision to leave the EU has actually saved me money because otherwise I wouldn't have switched. The UK, in an act of incredable stupidity, and arrogrance, cut its own throat with Brexit and is now paying a huge price for it - And to be honest I don't care. They made their decision and now they can bloody well live with it - That's exactly what the British would say if it was someone else other than them who left the EU - So yeah, screw them.
Absolutely true.
Same here. I don't buy from the uk anymore.
@@Maria-tl1lm I used to buy Kerrygold butter, but now I buy English butter or Anchor from NZ which is cheaper.
“That's exactly what the British would say” they have zero understanding of comeuppance now that it’s their turn.
They are dead set, heels dug in and upper lip all ironed, to turn this all into a good hard stint of British class warfare to teach the poors a lesson about what happens when your overlords go insane, they are set for a good few generations of punitive desolate misery and then some, and then to blame the Irish.
Yeah, they got what they deserve. This is what happens when your country is more xenophobic than smart.
The UK was never really pro-EU and you could feel it. It’s much smoother sailing since they’re out. They always wanted special treatment as well. They had quite an arrogance about them. I’m actually quite pleased they’ve gone.
I second what you wrote. They can have a very good riddance.
The British exceptionalism was very hurtful for the European project, especially while at the same time retaining special rules for THEiR Commonwealth…
Some people need to learn the hard way, Germany certainly had to wake from our own superiority complex…
It’ll take Britain a good long while yet to realize on what scale they have blundered
If Yes Minister holds any truth in its satire, the whole point of the UK being in the EU was to ensure it wouldn't work, to stop Europe from uniting.
So am I and I am from UK. But live in Greece
They wanted to enjoy autonomy but instead find out they had none 😂
Yes the European Union is so ever grateful that Brexit has happened and now all other countries now know the benefits of staying and not make the same mistake.
Well said, I could mention a few, Greece Italy Spain Netherlands France.
All have top level politicians who have recently had a change of heart, including the French right wing woman Le Pen
@Never repeats Oh we already have problems with existing members... such as Hungary.
@@spugelo359
…and Poland.
Never did I think of M.LePen as a"top level politician",a noisy one ,may be,like most extreme right fellows,but only such people ever mentioned the possibility of France leaving the EU,and this idea was never taken very seriously.
@Never repeats And then we have Guy Verhofstad who admires UK so much he wants them in immediately. Completely forgettying the insults Farage threw at him in the parliament. He does not speak for all of EU!
So basically: a Karen rants about leaving a prestigious business club, burns their membership card and storms out, and the other members are... just relieved they have one fewer Karen to deal with.
That's a good analogy.
😂😂😂
Everyone’s happy then. Or why are you still so butt hurt?
And aforementioned business club is popular with a lot of other people.
Mary from Northern Ireland and Jane from Scotland are welcome in the EU, but certainly Karen has to stop being mean to them.
(German grandpa’s view)
Another "intangible" was the way the EU stood up for and protected the interests of a small member state (Ireland) against an egregious attempt at bullying from the UK. Remember *most* EU members are smaller countries. Many of whom had their own historical issues with powerful imperial neighbours... For seven years the British ran determined diplomatic campaigns to persuade specific EU countries to throw Ireland under the bus. At one point they were running a diplomatic offensive in EU capitals asking the EU to *expel Ireland from the Single Market* as their "solution" to the Northern Ireland border issue. This obviously totally backfired - it could never have worked anyway as to do so would immediately unravel the entire point of the EU - and just increased EU solidarity and the members distrust of Britain and distaste at such despicable tactics. And that is one of the main reasons is why Britain will never be allowed to "rejoin".
😠 Are you a citizen of the European Union 🇪🇺? Or not? Which ‘Britain’ are you describing? Do you understand that change happens? The EU has changed? Six became ten. Ten became twenty eight. That Britain can change? Or is it that the one state that remains in political stasis is Britain? Your condemnation of millions because of a few is prejudice on stilts.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat Yes, "Britain can change". It’s a very-long term potential. The Irish in particular have very good historical and present reasons not to trust Britain. "Britain MAY change" but distrust lasts a long time - centuries, even. As for the EU in general, it will take perhaps a generation before trust may be restored.
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat I'm Irish, as in born and raised in Ireland Irish (and thus EU) citizen. I know people in Britain on the Remain side don't want to hear this and it is upsetting - but you have to understand from the EU's PoV the absolutely appalling, dishonest, untrustworthy behaviour of the British government over the last 7 years... and indeed all their disruptive behaviour within the EU before that going back to the 1980s.
Simply put your government (and your media with their endless unhinged barrage of insults) has comprehensively burned your bridges and the rest of the club simply don't want you back. And it'll take *decades* of consistently positive and constructive engagement from future British governments to overcome that extremely toxic and negative legacy that Brexit has left behind.
You might not like this - but it is what it is.
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@@ciaranirvine
I‘m German, as in born and raised in Germany German (and thus EU) citizen.
And you are 100% correct.
On behalf of the citizens of Ireland, I’d would like to thank you for all the new jobs you voted for.
About time England did something to benefit Ireland 😀 - it's only taken 400+ years. Enjoy your prosperity Ireland, you deserve it! You will soon not need Britain at all and get your entire country back and earn the respect inside Europe that the Brits have always denied to you - great!
Here, Brexit is a tragedy and a total failure while we slide into semi-fascism....... but I'm happy it is showing some benefit for the better, more deserving people of Europe.
Which has benefited the EU migrants working in lreland 👍✌️👋👌
@@caballoloco100 : And unlike the British we're glad to have them. We should be giving those hard working immigrants Irish passports instead of somebody in the UK whose granny was Irish and who has never set foot on Irish soil.
Though Ireland has problems of it's own mainly the lack of a domestic economy. While Ireland's GDP is very high this is almost exclusively due to foreign capital.
That makes the Irish economy very precarious as that foreign capital can just choose to leave one day and leave Irish impoverished once more. The Irish government needs to make a lot more public investments and investments into domestic industry and service and not let foreign companies handle everything.
This is very possible as it's also what Norway did with it's oil. Oil can often ruin an economy if you let it because it can make all the other sectors of the economy disappear and once the money flow stops the economy is no more which is what is happening in Venezuela right now and was a big part of the collapse of the USSR. The Irish government needs to raise taxes on the rich and foreign capital and set higher standards to share resources and information. So that the money goes to the Irish people and that even if foreign capital leaves there is a lot left.
@@MrMarinus18 I hardly think FDI will depart Ireland ...and to where, might I ask? It will def. grow, not decrease and as to non FDI economy, Im in my mid 60's and never have I seen it as strong. We need more workers & of course houses too but all that will and is happening.
People in the EU countries saw the UK as a trouble maker in the EU decisions.
Leaving was a relief.
Yup! As a portuguese, I remember seeing Nigel Farage as a Member of the Euoropean Parliement, insulting my european beliefs, and just laughing at the EU values. Nigel Farage offended me as a portuguese citizen. Good Riddance!
@@zedaadega7420 Nigel Fatarse is still earning a lot of money as a journalist for GB News, an extremely right wing UK channel (and not a very good one).
Brexit was/is the BEST thing that ever happened to the EU: out with the Trojan Horse (uk), we lost the burden that was slowing us down towards more integration, lots of financial and other benefits, and above all record-high support for the EU among EU citizens. People became more aware of the benefits of the EU. I see more EU flags than ever before. Thank you, Brexit! Thank you, Nigel! 🇪🇺🇪🇺
New Italian / Finnish and Swedish
governments ALL want EU reformed just as UK asked for !!
Oh dear......didn't you know ?
You should try to keep up with news from Europe . I'm always
surprised how ignorant Remainers are about events in Europe ?!?!
Don't forget to thank us in Labours former red wall as well as Nigel.
Just remember it was never really a UK decision,the referendum was a sham.
17 million people voted for Brexit.
Out of a 66 million population.
And the ones that did vote leave were simpletons easily mislead by a pack of lies from a noisy passionate minority.
For most people in Britain we're living through the painful hell of what was obviously a stupid decision from the beginning to anyone with more than half a brain.
Niggle Fatarse damaged the UK and enriched himself.
Dont forget about David Cameron, the lord knows he wants you all to forget it.
I am Dutch with young relatives living in the UK. I was devastated for their future when Brexit was "won" in 2016 but also amazed to hear that in Brussels in some quarters champagne was drunk to celebrate not having to deal with the UK within the EU any longer. The Eu has seen a period of more alignement and solidarity due to Brexit and the fall out did lead to benefits for likes of Amsterdam Brussels and Paris. Disappointing that Labour has completely giving up on debating Brexit, and the Tories try and gaslight the people of England about the so called benefits.
Al the more reason to keep the UK out as long as possible. As long as the UK is 'governed' by FPTP, the country will remain unreliable.
I've said as far back as 2015, Brexit should be celebrated as the best thing that will and has happened to the EU. It is the only useful contribution the UK ever made in all its 47 year membership.
No more whinging, no more whining, no more Widdecombe and no more Farage.
In the end, everyone got what they voted for and wanted.
EDIT - spelling mistake
@@har3036 FPTP is problematic. PR is way more representative of the electorate.
🏴I'll be back
Brexit was predicted to be a disaster for Ireland but the whole affair has actually immensely benefited the whole island.
The irony was that for some reason France twice denied UK access to the Eu, now looks like that after all they were completely right
No, they were wrong, UK made France and everyone else inside the EU money, it worked well. Not as good as it could have, but it was not wrong to allow them in, and France despite what everyone says France would rather the UK stayed. However, the reason they were hesitant was because at the time the UK was known as the sick man of europe or something, it lost that and became good, but its quickly becoming the sick man of europe again.. The reason for this seems obvious, the UK has forgotten that Ireland/Scotland/Wales helped build the empire and think England did it all on its own. They forget without the Scottish, the industrial age in the UK might have never happened. The riches of the empire went to the English peoples heads and made them think it was all them. They cant even stand up and say sorry to Scotland for dragging them out of the EU, instead they tell them to shut up and tell them they wont let them have another referendum.. this to the people who spear headed the industrial overhaul of the UK and bled all over the world for the UK, sit down and shut up, dismissive. Some day the English will realize that Ireland, Scotland, and Wales were shinging diamonds, that they took and dumped in cow manure while drinking champagne .
@@geroutathat 🥱cry
@@geroutathatmy man saying one thing and its complete opposite in the same sentence. "UK made France richer" true. But not that much really.
"UK was known as the sick man of Europe" not sure how a sick man can be of any help. By the time you guys joined the EU you were in the same situation third world countries were. Europe saved your arse, brought wealth to YOU. But you still bit the hand that fed you.
No issues, suffer well !
Yeah . Macron is very popular we've noticed ..!
@@2msvalkyrie529 Charles De Gaulle to be more precise
Brexit is a subset of a much wider lesson that really needs to be learnt. Inventing an alternative version of reality to suit your world view does not change reality, but it can result in stupid or even destructive decision making.
Tell this message to those in the United States of America!
Brexit is what happens when people don't listen to Permanent Secretary Humphrey:
"Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last five hundred years: to create a disunited Europe. . . . We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing. . . . the more members it has, the more arguments it can stir up, the more futile and impotent it becomes."
Some people call it cynicism, Secretary Humphrey calls it diplomacy.
@@careydepass130 Yeah, but unless you wrap it in cheese, Jesus, guns and American flags and present it with a movie trailer voiceover, they won't listen.
@@zefft.f4010 We are a couple hundred years behind you in US exceptionalism.
@@michaeladkins6 Well, I'm not British or American. My country doesn't exactly have a history of exceptionalism in the same way. In fact, seeing yourself as exceptional to everyone else has historically been seen as kinda cringe around here, both on an individual and national level.
But it's pretty clear the basis of US exceptionalism is actually something they inherited from the British.
As a european i was really sad Britain left, but the english always had a foot on the break in the EU and its kinda nice that now there are less countries not pulling their part.
Now only Hungary left))))
Yeah right. You can have Ukraine next or maybe Moldova . Two most corrupt nations in Europe .
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@@aaademed and Poland
"Foot on the 'brake' '"
@@angelcabeza6464Hungary is problematic in the EU, but I don’t think Poland is.
Poland is an emerging power in the EU, especially militarily. And they want to gain more power, which is understandable. So they are quite vocal about France and Germany, but that does not mean that they say no to everything. They actually usually vote in favor of EU strengthening most of the time.
That’s for once because they know the EU benefit them, and, speculation on my part, for two, that counterpart to the UL which was the 2nd largest economy of the EU, Poland received a lot of money from Western Europe. So much so that their strong military is basically financed with just what France and Germany gave them in 2021 and 2022.
It is important to understand that the UK was never "punished" for leaving EU. They just got exactly what they asked for:
"Non membership status."
They are treated no worse than US or Canada.
The infamous "visa waiver program" is more of a "tit-for-that" against the US policy of a paid not-quite-visa. It just affect the UK as well because they are not members.
Yeah nobody intelligent in the uk believes that.
Just the Brexiters were given ridiculous promises by the likes of Farrage and Johnson that "We hold all the cards" and "we'll negotiate x/y/z".
When that unsurprisingly didn't happen, rather than admit they were wrong they just stirred up more lies and blaming brexit's failure on any pathetic excuse they could think of.
I hope Donald Tusk's words come true: "There's a special place in Hell for all those who promoted Brexit, without the slightest idea how to carry it through".
Yes, Farage, Johnson, and the ERG should lead the way into that special place..
This was in context of the Northern-Ireland protocol, potentialy igniting the IRA again.
Leaving the EU is no reason to go to hell, just freedom of uninformed choice, allowing violence like that to return is.
Yes that island west of France seems to work well for that purpose.
@Trident65 Why not load them all into small boats and push them out into the channel and let them drift into the Atlantic...
El Reino Unido se ha convertido en una isla a la deriva a punto de desintegrarse en medio del océano
To tell the truth...the UK is a heavy weight that the EEU don't need to pull and drag anymore.
That is probably correct. Certainly the EU does not seem to have harmed the EU in any way I am aware of. Some trade must surely have been lost, but all in all, it seems that so much investment is now coming to the EU from 3rd countries (e.g. USA) that would have gone to the UK, and companies have moved directly from the UK to the EU, or opened branches in the EU, that it more than makes up for the loss, at least in the long term.
@@deannilvalli6579and with a large portion of the pie still to come, mainly related to financial services, plus manufacturing (car industry) when product lines have reached their end of life.
@@deannilvalli6579 UK carries all the losses alone by itself. In the EU there are 27 members sharing the losses.
Of course the EU is damaged by the UK leaving. It's a major economy. They were politically bothersome but this is what diplomacy and democracy are designed to handle.
The UK is harmed more by Brexit but those who wish to make this seem like a positive thing are fooling themselves. It's an obvious failure to resolve disputes within the Union.
Frenchman, babyboomer here: I couldn't agree more with what you say Rob. Thank you. I am a great admirer of Charles de Gaulle and he knew Britain inside out (it does not mean he didn't like it). He knew Britain tried to enter the EEC after having failed to organise a trade organisation (w. Sweden, Denmark, etc) competing with the EEC. Britain wants the Union to function as IT wishes (Not a political integration, not a convergence system, not a defense project) and under its exclusive control. NO, we are EQUAL MEMBERS, helping each other, deciding TOGETHER, and contributing in a FAIR way. There is ABSOLUTELY no acrymony against the UK, but "chat échaudé craint l'eau chaude" we have learned our lesson with a vindicative England and will wait for AMPLE and EVIDENT proofs in case it wants to join again.
Last point Rob: what you say we have gained (and it is true) is not taken away from the UK. We (the EU) are the ones that are now free from the "shackles of Westiminster". We have recovered our (EU) Sovereignty. Sadly, it shows that England is not anywhere near to the mindset of joining our Union.
Let us in Wales and Scotland free ourselves from the UK. We are Europeans. We don't want Westminster running our affairs.
What Ample and evident proofs would you require? and if your view is the Uk has never changed it’s attitude then presumably you’re dangling the prize of being in the EU in front of mostly people who never wanted the Uk to leave the EU in a really manipulative way. It’s like “I don’t want you back personally… BUT If i were to consider approving you again, you’d have to show me evidence that you’re not the same. Like what?? It doesn’t work that way.
That isn’t correct. After WWII, Church proposed a United States of Europe. However, Britain’s strong links with its colonies prevented that at the time. De Gaulle lived in London after France was invaded and recognised that if Britain was in the European Coal and Steel Community (later the EEC and EU) then it would diminish France’s joint role with Germany in moulding the organisation. As it was, it developed to suit France’s needs with huge and wasteful subsidies to agriculture. France did very well out of this. Britain’s attitude to the EU is largely mirrored by the Netherlands, Denmark and Sweden (I am part Swedish) and they were happy to hide behind the U.K. whenever points of conflict arose. Britain was never the awkward partner (indeed its record for implementing EU law was better than many countries including Belgium). The difference was that it had the size and economic clout to make a nuisance of itself. The problem for the EU now is that the gravitational pull is moving to the eastern states. That will further lessen France’s influence and its economy will suffer. All economic forecasts show that the U.K. economy will outstrip France massively in the future, both on nominal GDP and nominal per capita GDP as well as on Actual Individual Consumption p, which is a better measure of economic prosperity. Be careful what you wish for is the lesson to be learned.
@@CM73878 That is the british mindset, blaming individual countries for your own mistakes. The EU however is UNITED against bullying behaviour and will never allow England back as it can never ever be trusted.
@@ecaeas4439 The UK Referendum: 16.1 million voted remain and the rest of the total 46 million registered UK voters did not bother to vote or voted to leave. So, we, in the EU are entitled to say that the UK (mostly England) voted to leave. I am not dangling any prize (yes it is one to be in the EU, no perfect but, working) we are simply saying: Not again for many years of discussion UNLESS there is a clear majority to be PART OF the EU (which the UK never was but rather fully convinced it joined a trade Union). From 1951 and then in 1957 (T. of Rome) it was about an "ever closer {political} union.
I’m an American but even with my limited knowledge I always saw Brexit as an emotional reaction. Not really thinking things through logically. I don’t get how becoming more isolated was supposed to help the economy.
Thanks for this analysis. As a German, I was initially afraid that Brexit fever could spread to the continent. Now I'm strengthened in my opinion that Brexit was pretty much the best thing that could have happened to Europe in the long run.
Unfortunately, lower class people in the UK will suffer and upper class Brexiteers will create a stab in the back legend like the generals did in Germany after losing the First World War.
Brexit is the greatest gift the UK ever has given to the EU.
And it is a gift that will keep on giving for a long time to come.
@Les Skeels As a Canadian looking from outside in. U managed to shoot yourself not only in the foot but in the balls too. Eu has managed to get rid off most quarreling member. U re like special needs kid.
Thanks ! I hope it's more useful than the expensive farce that is the European Parliament ...!
Is that still meeting and discussing
" important " matters . Which it has no powers to change ??
@@lesskeels3417 Yeah, but gift in the German meaning, which is poison.
Apart from our billions they'll have to find from somewhere else 🤣
Being a rule taker was always known about Brexit and only the Brexiteers ignored that. It should make the Tory party subject to prosecution because it has had multiple consequences and caused a real loss of earnings.
If you were to combine the financial loss we have incurred since we formally left the EU, with the disastrous handling of Covid (inc. the utterly wasteful farce of the failed PPE contracts), AND the damage Lizz Truss did to the economy during her incredibly short time as PM.....then it would probably exceed £100billion.
It's no wonder nothing works anymore, and we seem to be going backwards at an alarming rate.
The Tories have done untold damage to our economy, our standing in both Europe and the wider world; and they have jeopardised the long term prospects for the UK as a political entity.
All in this in just 13 years. A pretty incredible list of successive inept leadership, a cavalier attitude to regulations designed to keep us safe, and a complete inability to understand what being in the EU did for us when we were part of it.
The Tories once prided themselves on being the party 'for businesses', but they don't even represent them now..... especially as most medium and big businesses in the UK opposed Brexit.
It was the smaller businesses that supported it .....and the irony is that it's these smaller businesses that have been hit hardest by Brexit. Is this karma, or is it just ignorance and naivety? Whatever it is, they're the businesses that are going bust left, right, and centre.
Brexit was sold as being the champion of small businesses. Now it's become their killer.
They should definitely be held to account.
To the polls!!
The Tory Party are a political front for the actual crooks operating within the UK. Unfortunately everyone knows all too well, the bigger the crime, the less chance anyone will be charged with anything, much less see the inside of a court room.
Of course the Brexit supporting Tories are to blame, but don't forget Labour in this discourse either.....instead of looking for moderate opposition they made a ultra left-wing Corbyn their figurehead....a figurehead by the way, that was not opposed to Brexit and even wanted to leave the EU in 1975....Labour didn't take a clear stance either.....
I remember how a British friend of mine, who voted Remain, nevertheless said to me "I am not sure the EU wil still exist in 3 years." Yes. He was still under the influence of the 30 years of British propaganda, thinking that the UK was so important that the EU could not exist without it. He thought there was some truth to the claims of Farage, that the UK would be the first of many countries to leave the EU.
So far, I know of zero countries which want to join the UK. I know that Albania, Ukraine, Moldova, Georgia, Serbia and Bosnia are desparate to join the EU. Poland has doubled its GDP since joining the EU.
By the way, the UK is no longer hte second largest econmy in Europe. France has overtaken it.
All in all, I am very pleased it has turned out so well for the EU. We are getting loads of investment that would have gone to the UK (examples are Tesla and Intel, but those are just a fraction, and they are worth over 6 billion). The EU is now stronger than ever, and the UK weaker than ever.
James Acaster's brilliant analaogy was only partly true:
ruclips.net/video/Xm6Id3Qt8Wk/видео.html
The tea is not weaker, it is stronger. Only the teabag is now useless.
No, the UK has a bigger economy than France.
@@zorrodm No, it doesn't. When is the last time you checked? 1997?
In past on holiday in EU the English pointed to EU support to infrastructure and said we paid for that. Not saying that now as EU continue going ahead with projects as England sinks
@caterthun the UK is not sinking. The opposite is happening, as the UK had the fastest growing economy in the first two years post-Brexit.
@@caterthun4853 The UK was one of the biggest recipients of EU funding, whether the social fund or the structural fund. The plaques are all over the UK. The UK has 9 of the 10 poorest regions in northern Europe. Yes, 90% are in the UK. Cornwall, northern Wales, Northeast England, Parts of the MIdlands.... Brits do not realise what a poor country they live in, with the tiniest houses in Europe (true fact!). It is not the poorest of southern Europe, but of northern Europe, easily- compare it to France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, Finland.... they are all miles ahead of the UK and will be even farther ahead as time goes on, now that the UK is getting EVEN poorer.
There's no cure for stupidity.
I remember my best friend in the UK saying, "We can get such a great trade deal with Japan once we are out of the EU". I asked, "How? The UK has less people, hence, less bargaining vs Japan compared to 450 Million EU people!". He didn't respond to that;-)
I would ask him what does he thinks he will sell to Japan at a better price +shipping that they can buy from the asian conturies. These people have 0 IQ. I mean it's not like you send a truck from Uk in the morning and at evening it's unloading in Nederland,France,Belgium , Denmark,etc.
Not to forget: what has the UK to offer what the EU doesnt have better? 🤔 ... wait ... wait ... Nothing! 🤦🏻♂️
@@strasbourgerelsass1467 Plum pudding and Stilton cheese!
@@johanmetreus1268 🤯😳 Never seen it in a Eurpean country. Must have reasons... 🤣
@johanmetreus1268 not to be rude but those are not on the top list 😅
I still remember the picture of the first negotiation meeting when Michel Barnier came with a pile of documents and the UK negotiator had nothing.
Obama & Merkel: stay.. Trump & Johnson:get out.. British people: let’s go with the crazy people & liars...
Well Merkel seems to not be that great of a leader too. Just look what she did to Germany with her stupid gas relations to Russia. Really, how can a well educated leader of one of the more powerfull nations on earth like Merkel be so stupid. She took million of refugees so the rest of the could look at us and say oh how sweet are the germans, just to let them rot in a run down place without permission to work for YEARS. She run down our Train Infrastructure, she run down our mobil and High tech Infrastructure and in the End Germans and Europeans are poorer after her reign then before it. I would have taken Johnson as German Chancellor everyday over Merkel again.
johnson is trump light XD
@@Habakuk_ one-pound Trump (and that's still generous)
The liars had Rupert Murdock's media empire on their side.
@@Habakuk_ We elected a lying con man. It was a disaster. UK thought, we should try that.
I have spoken to a few pro brexit people who appeared to be fairly intelligent and I just could not get why they were pro brexit and then it dawned, they thought that the "sovereignty" thing mattered! Now, to me at least, sovereignty is totally meaningless in the present global order. If we want to trade with other countries we HAVE to go along with their standards and "THEIR" standards are essentially EU standards which are accepted worldwide!
I often wonder how long it took for the citizens of ancient Rome to stop believing they were exceptional after the fall of the empire.
Fun fact: You can only become an EU member if you ARE a sovereign nation. The UK never relinquished her sovereignty any more than Germany, France, Italy or Denmark did.
roughly 1500 years, from 500 AD till 1945.
It was only after Mussolini fell that the last Italian pride of Roman Empire truly died, I think.
but sovereignty is meaningless for a 65 million citizens country in a globalized world of 8+ billions ! Sovereignty is an insane concept form the past in the 21st century@@LarsPallesen
@@JABN97I don't think so: Western Roman Empire fell in 476 d.C. and Italy was conquered and divided in a lot of cities and little states since then. In 1861 it became united again, but had a lot of cultural differencies within, then in 1922 Mussolini took the power and started with the fascist propaganda and the crap of the "new Roman Empire" that none believed. United Kingdom had an Empire that lasted from XVII to the XX century, It's a recent thing that - sadly- still permeates british society. I'm Italian and I can't concieve the utter stupidity to leave the EU in a global economy
From NI, living in Ireland. Brexit has removed the talk of leaving the EU that was happening with Sinn Fein a decade or so ago. Now we are looking at England flailing about and slowly collapsing blaming everyone apart from themselves.
Remember when Brexiters proposed Ireland leaving the EU as a solution to the NI border? 😅
@@pansepot1490 Basically "Ah sure those Paddys will let us tell them what to do."
@@Garthdon Well, it DID work like that quite a long time, didn't it?
But that was, well, back then. And now Ireland is a member of the EU and the UK is not any longer, and strangely that leads to the EU being more likely to support Irish interests than UK interests.
No religion pls
Like they always do. Mark my words, there will be referendums in North Ireland and Scottland (Wales won't do that, they are too far gone) to leave Great Britain and re-join the EU. Maybe not next year, maybe not in 2 or 3 but it WILL happen
Charles de Gaulle was against UK joining the EU for good reasons. They have been a rock in the EU shoe ever since they joined.
As an American who similarly watched our country walk right into the lion's den in 2016 (cough Donald Trump), I can tell you with all of the confidence in the world...... it's okay to say you've made a mistake. And if you weren't the one to make that mistake - in fact cried the night you watched it go down - never feel guilty about being loud about it. Scream it, yell it, be obnoxious about it, because people *want* you pretend nothing happened. They want you to forget that it happened, and more importantly they want people to forget *who* let it happened. Never ever stop being loud.
Please don’t repeat the mistake of 2016!
I've always said it's like cancelling your gym membership but expect to keep using the pool.
And all we ever did was piss in it, so double win for them ... 😀
the brexit-names for all the other countries were pure gold!
Spot-on Rob. Having left for Denmark I can confirm the perspective from over here about Brexit and the solidification behind the EU. Even the right wing have gone very, very silent on the matter, as while there is still much respect for the Uk and it’s people here, Britain’s Brexit is viewed as a cautionary tale.
Despite all the pain and the damage, I think Brexit was the best long-term choice for UK.
Brexit is finally enabling the EU to make the necessary reforms that UK was vetoing, and removed all the privileges and exceptions that UK had carved out for itself. Conversely, UK is learning the hard way (since it wouldn’t do so the easy way) the value of cooperation among equals.
I expect UK, as a whole or piecemeal, will return into the EU in about 40-50 years. It will be a much different EU in which UK will have the same rights and obligations as any other member.
Without Brexit, none of these things would happen. So, after all, Brexit might turn out to be a felix culpa.
OR the UK will stay out of the authoritarian state the EU is.
The biggest Brexit problem we have now is that too many politicians, and too much of the UK voting public, cannot handle the mistake/failure of Brexit responsibly.
And they are still proud of their decision. God help us.
It is something deeply rooted in our mindset: admitting a mistake is seen as a weakness instead of a strength.
@@The-Wide-Angle Indeed - we all have that mindset within us, but we need to allow rational thought to lead the way.
@@audreymcgready4329 I'm hoping the vast majority of these 'proud' Leave voters are being stubborn and blame the Tories for deceiving them.
Whilst they won't admit the truth in public, I'm secretly hoping they admit the truth in the private company of the ballot box ...
Gone!
Thank you, the UK. Your sacrifice will be forever remembered.
Turns out the U.K. was the Albatross 😂
The dead weight, the leg iron, the gangrenous limb, the tumor .....
Dangleberry more like.
@@pauls3204 LOL
What did the Romans ever do for us?
@@channelfiftyfive055 The millstone?
Remember that De Gaulle was against the inclusion of UK in the European community and that Michel Roccart said that EU should, one day, get rid of it to progress. If UK citizens were for the Brexit, many European ones were for too ... for very different reasons. One cannot always have the cake and eat it too.
The UK thought London was the capital of Europe. It’s not. It’s just the capital of England.
Let me correct you there ENGLAND thought London was Capital of EU . We SCOTS KNEW BETTER which is why we voted to REMAIN however as usual the little brits got their own way by sheer dint of numbers. Which is why they are so desperate to cling to their outdated union. They need to be able to throw their weight around , something they couldn't do in BRUSSELS.
@@georgerobert4709 let’s play a game. Bot, troll, or dyslexia.
Yeah I feel really pity and sad for you guys
Scots
North Irish and
Wales
You could didn’t even Got again a chance (after like 8 years and the only reason why Scotland votes against leaving UK/GB was because of EU.... to remain) to get independen and you’re guys even were Forced out of the eu
Now is Frankfurt
The UK was always half hearted and obstructive in the EU. The fact we never joined the euro showed the UKs intentions and paved the way for Brexit. De Gaulle was right.
"The fact we never joined the euro" Is that the same Euro that countries such as Latvia, Slovakia, Lithuania, Serbia and Estonia use? All these countries have inflation far in excess of UK, they cannot set their own interest or exchange rates. You think that's good?
Well mate, I guess I'm glad that 🇬🇧 is doing better than Serbia, Estonia, etc...but I thought it was supposed to be compared to France, Germany...
@@roystonrichards1556 Since well does Serbia use the Euro?
@@externalESN The fact that you think that Serbia uses the Euro, shows how little you know about the union that you belonged.
@@dimiathan Apologies, I was replying from memory, replace Serbia with Slovenia, thanks for correcting me.
Fun fact : the UK was VERY influential in making these ‘EU laws’. British commissioners were instrumental in writing these policies. Insider view : Bobby McDonagh "I sat at the EU’s negotiating table for years - and saw how great Britain’s influence was.." .. For three decades I sat around the European negotiating table, walked the Brussels corridors and networked in EU capitals. The truth is that, throughout the years of its membership, the UK has been particularly effective in the pursuit of its interests.. Like other member states, the UK has been represented around every EU negotiating table at every level as the decisions have been thrashed out. Sadly, many British people are not even aware that there were such tables to sit around. British EU commissioners helped to shape EU legislation. British nationals have held key positions in all the EU institutions.."
A big problem is Brits are worfully uneducated about how politics works even within our own country , let alone the EU. When I was at school we were taught absolutely nothing about the EU, our tole in it, its benefits to us, how we are represented within it, how influential we were in jt, etc
@@cretinousswine8234another problem: Brits always need to be "the most influential" " world leading" "instrumental in".
God forbid they are told they are just like any other member.
@@ab-ym3bf Well, now they are like any other non-member.
That is also because for many decades the Britisch people were told time and time again that everything wrong withing the UK, was the EU's or Brussels fault. The Britisch politicians could always blame the EU for THEIR OWN mistakes and bad decisions. People grew up hearing these lies, so ended up believing it.
@@Keyboardje that was only Tory politicians, with those lies being amplified by Australian Rupert Murdock's media empire.
Thank you Rob. An excellent report on the Brexit fiasco.
Brexico!
Honest commentary. Asian here from Asia. Too many British opinion makers amongst the Brexiteers were, in my opinion, suffering from their "Empire" hangover when they could force trade under the power of the gun. They simply did not grasp that the UK, in PPP terms, is only the 10th largest economy in the world. Many years ago, as an extension of my business in Asia, I had set up an export unit in the UK for export to the EU creating around 150 technical jobs for Britishers. After 2016 it was clear as daylight to me as to where this was going. I sold off that business while I still could. For an ordinary entrepreneur like me investing my own hard earned money the rocky road ahead was clear as hell. Without the EU and with only poodle status with USA, the UK is at risk of becoming an also ran both economically as well as politically.
Honestly, every single one of the UK's friends tried to warn them. This was one of the most stupid things a nation has ever done to itself.
Another clear eyed litany of Brexit foolishness. Thanks for continuing to speak truth to power! 🎉
Brexit was without a doubt among the dumbest decision the English inflicted on the rest of us. That's why I vote SNP, to get the English out of Scotland once and for all. Then we can re-join the EU without those morons south of the border. Apologies to the non-morons south of the border, but you're outvoted by the idiots.
Sorry to burst you buble, but this is not the truth. Brexit is not a competition between the UK and the EU. There are no winners or loser, it is not a game.
Brexit is nothing for the EU. It is a loss, yes. However it is business and nothing personal. For example: it is not a political issue in Europe. No politician is asked about his feelings about Brexit. It is not on the political landscap. Maybe German car manufacturers want to do more business in the UK, but the same can be said about business in the USA or even Russia.
Brexit is an internal political conflict isolated in the UK. It has more to do with politicians that want to be PM than with the EU.
Poland and Hungary are bigger issues for the EU than the UK.
@@dirkvandaele4466 I do not completely agree. Ironically, EU got the brexit benefits that the brexiteers promised for UK. Although EU took a small economic loss, EU came out politically stronger.
Of course there are still issues, and there will be in the future. But, strangely enough, without the current UK govt, EU has a better chance of coping with them.
@@EllieD.Violet except for us in Ireland. Because we share a border with the UK we have to listen to Brexit BS every now and again, or there’s a segment in the news about expanding port services to the continent to get around the UK. But the frequency of those stories has dropped in the past few months..
@@vullings1968 I can not express this more clearly: the Brexit was 100% an internal British issue. Almost every Brexit debate was fought out by native English speakers. The language barrier is important. Voters could only consume English media and not native English speakers are at a disadvantage in a debate. This creates a bias so that even pro-EU Brits do not fully understand the EU.
Brexit has indeed had a negative effect on Frexit, however that did not effect the Front National much. They just changed the message to conspirancy and deep state baloney with the same effect. The Front National is still anti-EU and will make it difficult for the EU when they would come to power.
Maybe the biggest effect Brexit had is on the business side. A lot of business is coloured by English media which is not always pro-EU. The negative Brexit effects can change that bias. As the EU is the trendsetter in regulations, a pro-EU voice in business can be important.
You didn't mention the most important Brexit benefit and most likely reason it was pushed through so insanely: London and the Channel Islands are now less affected by the new EU rules for banking. The amount of corruption I have seen in the UK is as breathtaking as the British public's ability to overlook it. Due to Brexit the ruling class can now continue to hide the profits and invest them in the most unethical and therefore profitable ways without anyone noticing. This would not have been possible if the EU had stayed in the Common Market.
The one and only reason for BREXIT, was precisely that. But I do admire the skill involved by those who not only sacrificed an entire nation, but also fooled 52% of them into thinking they had won a massive democratic victory !
That was probably the main reason for a brexit,to have control of the money on red busses that they would distribute among them self…Uhh i mean the people and NHS and small businesses .
Instead off Europ to have controll of it, and redistribute it to were was needed.
All about protecting their money.
@@willieckaslike 72% turn out - only 38% of people were fooled into wanting to leave
@artnull13, 72% is a very high turn out
I keep being reminded of the woman in Sunderland who was sitting on someone's shoulders wildly celebrating the Leave victory. I wonder of she is quite so enthusiastic today?
Like the people who spent years insulting every person that voted remain. They seem to have went quiet now.
When I see Bojo I just can believe he is walking free and rich..
I think the problem was for 40 years we in the UK were fed lies about the EU & Commone Market by our right wing media, BBC, ITV, both political parties and so on. I don't recall a single good word or explanation of how the EU worked. I don't think any of those I mentioned even understood the EU themselves. This always pissed me off. Glad I left the place when I did, before Brexit.
This is spot on. Even after its exit from the EU, the right wing press in Britain continues to bleat on about the EU, and how unfair it all is. For British conservatives and their boosters in the press, the EU has been a wonderful foil, distracting from their poor record at home. Even when out of the club, still blaming the club😅
It's a pretty common thing. Finding someone to blame works great for politicians. A lot of the independentism in Spain has grown the same way. I'm not saying all of it has no real point, there are historical reasons for it, but having the politicians putting the blame of every local problem on the national government during 40 years has helped its growth inmensely.
Britian has gone from one of the most influential countries in the EU to complete irrelevance.
Except on the world stage where the UK has a permanent seat on the security council of the United Nations
@@lloydnaylor6113 What means absolutely nothing for the million's of UK people who suffer from Brexit.
@@francolinos7338 millions of people are not suffering from brexit. What on earth are you on about? They way you talk it's as if there was riots on the streets and people were starving to death. Nugget.
Poignant and accurate on every point, Rob. With Brexiters in denial (it's the wrong brexit; or we haven't done brexit) we are the butt of the joke that we created. As usual, there is no honesty from our two largest parties, leaving us in deadlock and decline. The campaign of lies and deceit was successful, yet there is no redress (economic or legal) for the chief liars. The root cause: our political system is not fit for purpose. Who will fix it?
When they say it's the wrong brexit or brexit hasn't happened they just mean that they haven't seen any benefits. Well we all knew there were no benefits.
@@deviousdescent9010 very true. Their ideology is never wrong - even after it's proved wrong. The price of bigotry.
@@deviousdescent9010 we all know that it meant a vicious establishment of a fascist state with brown shirts (Stella string vests) and concentration camps.
Jim or Bpb will fix it.
We told you so
Much appreciate your ongoing brexit analysis Rob. A sane voice in the Uk wilderness of self inflicted idiocy.
I lived in England for 10 years and I was very surprised to here quite often the concept of England vs Europe. I have never heard this kind of talk in Sweden or in any other European country. In general it feels like most of the other countries in EU actually likes each other and being able to working in different countries etc. One old lady in England said that "Noone cares about us, why should we care about anyone else?" and I thought that was such a sad attitude. What about working together to avoid another WW and to get closer to each other. I always liked the spirit of EU: bring us closer together.
I couldn’t agree more.
This sums it up at perfection. They've never been in the EU in spirit, they only saw the EU as a market to profit from.
Here's my experience. I'm an Anglophile from Croatia. Negative impacts of Brexit: British clothing and shoes (and we are talking about pricey stuff) is more expensive now. Deals are much harder to find and are not as good. Some shops I used to buy from no longer ship to continent and honestly I fear they will go under (German retailers are aggressively fighting for this space). My favourite shirt naker bankrupted (but that was first started with COVID). Positive: job opportunities in my country. since I work in pharmaceutical industry for which UK was always a hub for Europe especially the area I work in (drug safety). After Brexit a lot of this high paying jobs are now available here - remotely. Best example according to EU regulations each pharma company needs to have key responsible person for EU. Before it was almost exclusively in UK even for companies from the continent. Now all roles along with supporting infrastructure and talent moved to continent. In my company the Netherlands. Some of my British colleagues moved to EU because of Brexit.
It totally turned out as expected. Everyone in the EU said it would and the Tories probably also knew. But Brexit was a way to keep the xenophobic plebs happy. It’s a cautionary tale about racism destroying a country.
racism alone is not sole reason behind this...the real danger lies in populist ambiguous messages from demagogues pushing any agenda for their personal/political points...this time directed to the nationalistic elements in the society
It was a double win for the tories. Hold onto power by appeasing the racist plebs (a strategy they've stuck to to this day) and in addition, the deregulation of the UK market and laws post brexit meant big business could get away with bad practise, corruption and activities that were previously illegal. The sewage dumping around UK beaches is a prime example. As is the amount of corruption and tax evasion we see now.
@@cretinousswine8234 it also allows their donors to turn the UK into a cleptocracy.
@@cretinousswine8234 "It was a double win for the tories. Hold onto power by appeasing the racist plebs (a strategy they've stuck to to this day)" They have? Then why do the Tories spend £millions daily to house hordes of young men coming across in dinghies to claim asylum? Is that a special Tory way of appeasing racists?
@@plokijplokij97 it was the Tory perspective - not mine.
The Europeans are like, "Hey, this is awesome. UK should have left sooner."
Your use of "the Europeans" lays bare the problem the UK (still) has: it doesn't consider itself to be European, but British.
@@ab-ym3bf yup it's called exceptionalism - comes from deep seated national arrogance and delusions. Very sad for us but funny for you guys.
It was only thanks to being able to live and work in the EU during the 80's that I could get off the unemployment line in the UK and make a decent life for myself and I thank all the European friends and neighbours that welcomed and helped me. You see, the British can't do that - they always want incomers to feel inferior and know their place. We didn't really ever deserve the honour and responsibility of being in an enlightened group of nations like the EU and now we've deservedly lost it.
So now my children cannot have the same benefit as I had thanks to a bunch of lying Brexit b-s. How I hate them, not personally, but as a group who have ruined our country and are actually still proud of themselves.
Good luck to all the good people of Europe trying to find ways nations can cooperate in peace - I believe the future of the human race depends on it. Sadly my country screwed up the most optimistic sign that humanity was coming to its senses at last - away from the nationalism that has scarred us all for the past 1000 years. Every generation destroying what the previous one built just because someone waves a different colour flag - nah nah, we're better than you! Poor, sad, pathetic Britain is still doing it.
@@ab-ym3bf or rather an island in the pacific
@@ab-ym3bf Too true.
"Hey, this is awesome. Hungary should do the same."
My Dad grew up in the Slums of Glasgow during the Great Depression. He had to quit school at 14 to got to work for 1 cent an hour to help support the family of 6 children. He was drafted into WW II at the age of 17, despite being blind in one eye, because of his Labour Union activities during Wartime. He became a Socialist. He participated in the brutal Southern Italian Campaign, and was in the British Military Police in Post War Palestine and during the Exodus; the modern re-creation of Isreal. He traveled the world and held Citizenship in Scotland, England, Australia and finally Canada.
If my Dad taught me anything; he taught me to cut through the BS and don't let the Truth hold you back from being a shit disturber.
This one's for you Dad. RIP:
In scrolling through a good portion of the top comments, I couldn't help but notice that no one made reference to the fact that London has been the preferred destination for Dictators, Criminal Drug Cartels, Human Traffickers, Illegal Arms Dealers, Sex Slavery Merchants, Organized Crime Groups, Millionaires, Billionaires, and ruZZian Oligarchs for the last TWENTY Years.
Londongrad is the one stop shop for Comprehensive Money Laundering Needs.
Before Brexit, the EU was preparing new laws to clamp down on money laundering activity. This activated the The Russian Psychological Warfare Apparatus to bombard the British Public through social media; massive amounts of misinformation, disinformation, malinformation, and propaganda about the EU and to deliberately influence certain individuals to promote the Brexit idea. This was also hopefully going to destabilize Europe, NATO and Democratic values in Western Countries.
Brexit was a very successful Misinformation Campaign by ruZZia, its minions of internet Trolls, and a small group of political/financial opportunists, while many of UK citizens are either oblivious, in denial or simply don't care.
Russia had fertile ground to work with.
You're correct about everything.
No, they didnt change the mind of millions. It could have happened without any foreign influence. And of course, theres was also influence from eruopa for staying.
So, the British decided. No one else.
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Good decisions are informed decisions. It's obvious that the British Public did not adequately inform themselves.
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Hey, thanks so much. I only have a highscool education but during my whole life I've always asked why things happened the way they do. As a consequence I've gravitated towards reading non fiction material and have always been a news junkie, while observing human behavior. Somehow I'm able to see patterns and the unseen elements manipulating those patterns, and the dire consequences of ignorance.
Great to be in the EU and to be rid of the great brake on peaceful integration . No more special rebates , concessions or exceptions for the English in particular. De Gaulle was right, after all.
Brexit also quieted down the French separatists here in Canada. Like Brexit they had promised their voters they could, 'have it all', losing by only a fraction of a percent in the last referendum. When Brexit was announced they heralded it as the model for them to emulate. Of course, in the following months, as Britain was informed that they couldn't cherry pick the best parts and if the left, they were truly on their own, the separatists became very quiet over here since what happened to England was exactly what the federal government had told Quebec what would happen to it if they left.
Happy that uk has no say in the EU anymore,no more obstructing the EU progress ,no more throwing toys out if the pram,no more meddling on other countries behalf in EU business happy days for the EU tough luck Britain.
Rob, don't know if you've seen it, but there is a "Digby Jones index". It contains all articles of business moving or closing down because of Brexit.
Makes for quite the read.
Thanks for the hint!
Ta for the heads up!
Waouah .... I had a look on it. Terrible ... I didn't know so many jobs were lost
@@sabinenadal8470 Neither did Lord Digby Jones. It seems he was more busy enjoying the beverages in the bar of Peers' Dining Room at the House of Lords than actually informing himself, his peers and the people what brexit would mean.
Actually, lots of businesses are opening in the UK. 753 thousand new businesses were started between April 2021 and March 2022. This is the second highest number of businesses started in UK history in one tax year.
I’m an Irishman living in the U.K. for 13years and will do so for the next 2yrs, leaving after that. But I went home around the time brexit happened and talk in pubs were, “ good on Britain taking back control”. My argument was, we’ve not really considered the fall out of it. But people were going, you’ll figure it and Ireland will follow. Couldn’t go back home for close to 3 years due to covid. But when I did get back, the conversation was “ what you idiots up to over there, you seem to be going from bad to worse”. I don’t know if the people who originally supported irexit went to ground or had a change of heart. But that conversation is definitely not up for debate and if does, they just say “ look how U.K. is doing”
Ireland had the highest level of support for the EU even before Brexit, usually in the mid 90% range. Irexit was a handful of morons with funding from the UK that were too incompetent to even set a flag on fire. They were never relevant to anyone other than lazy reporters looking for easy clickbait headlines.
I don't know who you were talking to you in Ireland there definitely was very little appetite pre 2016 for irexit all opinion polls were 93 % pro European membership nobody was talking about sovereignty following Britain
@@johnareidy oh their was support granted small in numbers. This was taken up by far right political groups around Europe. Don’t hear them talk about it now, they know it’s a dead duck in water. If brexit had been a success they would be screaming for it. I’m delighted that Ireland is very pro EU, yes the EU has its critics, but overall it’s been a success story
Are you sure they weren't being ironic? 😅
I can attest that after brexit, every single politician and political party that were eurosceptics in my country, just disappeared. If you ask them now they will swear they never suggested leaving the EU or the single currency.
The UK was not only a roadblock with its tantrums to get special exemptions, but also a willing backdoor for the US to meddle in EU affairs.
So, when the UK once again threw a tantrum for its home audience and threatened to leave the EU to leave if it didn't get its way, the mainland finally had enough and took them up on that offer!
Super commentary. One must ask the question: who in the UK benefits most from leaving the EU? People who have lots of money and aim to not only keep it, but increase their lot by not paying tax. The average Brit has no chance, now.
The bully kicked itself out and now it will stay alone to fend for itself
Didn't they join a trading block on the other side of the world C P T P P
@@annemitchell6144 Yes. They will benefit 0,08% over a time period of ten years from that deal. The loss of GDP is now admitted to be around 4% per year. UK would need some 500 similar deals to cover the annual loss of 4%.
Despite being a large, advanced economy with strong trading relationships in the Indo-Pacific, the United Kingdom had to meet the CPTPP’s high standards for market access requirements, sanitary and phytosanitary standards, and binding investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) provisions to join CPTPP. The accession process, chaired by Japan, required the United Kingdom to reach agreements with the 11 CPTPP members: Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, Peru, New Zealand, Singapore, and Vietnam.
CPTPP members would not concede to the United Kingdom receiving many derogations or exceptions to the agreement’s binding commitments and high standards. As the CPTPP’s first precedent-setting applicant, Japan was insistent that the United Kingdom accept virtually all existing CPTPP rules for entry. Parties to the agreement also looked for a resolution to the long-simmering UK-EU dispute about the Northern Ireland Protocol as a condition for Britain’s CPTPP entry, a concern that was assuaged in early March 2023 with the finalization of the Windsor Framework before a recent CPTPP negotiating round in Phu Quoc, Vietnam.
The final roadblock to UK accession was a last-minute impasse between the United Kingdom and Canada over agricultural market access. With the United Kingdom no longer party to the EU-Canada Trade Agreement (CETA) following Brexit, disagreement over Canadian access to the British beef market emerged as a key bilateral trade tension in ongoing negotiations for a bilateral UK-Canada FTA. Canada objected to Britain’s CPTPP accession with this issue in mind. Only in mid-March 2023 did officials from Ottawa partially relent at the request of Tokyo, reaching a settlement with counterparts in London to take up these market access concerns in bilateral, rather than multilateral, negotiation, clearing the way for UK CPTPP accession.
The bully ? Napoleon, the Kiaser and Hitler?
Everyone in EU was happy, that UK was so stupid to leave EU. I don't think, that anyone wants UK back, as long as it is not a republic and the Tories lead the parliament.
Whelp... given that the King has cancer, Princess Of Wales has been kidnapped by aliens, Harry n Megan are as Persona Non Grata as ever... and according to one poll the Toeies might win just 21 seats in the election... so we're looking at 2026 then.
This is what xenophobia gets you.
I wonder how bad it will have to be in UK before the populace will support a return to the EU even with the standard requirements of €Euro currency and Schengen membership?
Probably a lot worse than I am prepared to wait for.
Doesn't matter. It is extremely unlikely that *any* of the EU27 would entertain a British application to "rejoin" any decade soon.
I don't think it'll be in our lifetime unfortunately. The EU wouldn't want us back even if we wanted to. I lost my 10 year old daughter to brexit, she is half French and her mother took her to France after brexit. My only comfort is that she won't suffer through the mistake the UK made.
@@deviousdescent9010 Sorry to hear that.I know of many English, Scots, Welsh and Irish whose families have been torn apart.
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@@ciaranirvine guess what spain is going to ask for the UK to rejoin, lol. Forget it, It's not going to happen
To be fair, look at how many unsavoury British MEPs, got democratically voted in to take up seats in the EU. Thus being able to erode confidence about the EU from within . But, ,ironically, they'll be getting a nice EU pension.
Paid for by the British taxpayer...
To think, Brexit has barely begun. Once the European financial sector has moved to where it belongs in the EU and to a regulatory compliant US, Little Britain will lose all revenue gained from that.
In short, the future is grim. 😂
it turns over hundreds of billions daily!
@@trident6547 735 trillion per annum. But England wanted out, so no more revenue off it.
@It`s okay. Correct, that's where the trillions of Euros reside.
grim for whom? It looks sooo bright and the member states finally can go ahead in creating a really unified Europe, the real aim of the EU
Not only that. Many EU funds (like Erasmus) still run in the UK. Many benefits and support that national parks, museums and farmers get. Those will expire in a year or two and then you will see the state of which the UK will be in. If they will want to rejoin, they will certainly need to drop the British pound and other things that the UK was always excluded from.
Brexit was not a mistake, if anything is the best event in Europe since the fall of the Berlin wall. The challenge ahead now, is to make sure they stay out.
I think us EU citizens can't be thankful enough that brexit happened. UK had a never ending list of special wishes, always wanted extra treatment and used to block so many important decisions. Luckily that's over. Thank you so much brexiters. We owe you. 👍🏽
You misspelled France, Germany, and Italy as UK for some reason.
Well researched, well written, well produced and very well delivered.
@@thetruth9210 It is presented in the video Truth.
And still the british politicians are SO condescending in their behavior 😮
That's the Brit Leavers for you - got nothing to speak of except arrogance, insults and lies. Scum ...... and we have to live with them. Since Brexit this has been such a horrible place to live but as our freedom was taken away, we now have no choice but to stay confined to our sad small failing island. And our government just tries to show how ugly they can be to the worlds most unfortunate people. It pleases the Brexiters who have nothing else to show for our national madness except joy at others misfortune. Anyway, seemingly we live in the Pacific now so nah nah 😂🤣😂. Bloody idiots.
The eu should have a free from uk day
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As a European I am very happy with brexit, UK had been a pain from day one of membership.
Wow 😮
It's true... I live in Wisconsin and I have a car badge that says "GB" and it has the Europe Stars.... Here, that signifies "Not a Nazi"
I've escaped communistic Poland for my son to give him a better future ,my son was 2 years old, now he applies for.polish passport saying I was lucky I was born in Poland mum as Europe have such better quality of life!(he often travels there and works there) so he is moving out by end of the year. He works in medical labs
I agree with everything you said in this video, but one really significant thing you did not mention in the video, is that EU laws that impact trade are compliant with WTO rules, which was portrayed as being desireable as the sole basis of a No Deal Brexit. Like a house, WTO rules are the foundation of international trade, and they are followed by the majority of countries in the world. They are the bare minimum rules, and UK and EU trade laws comply with them, because we and all the member states in the EU are WTO members. And the Trade and Cooperation Agreement we signed with the EU is based on those rules, along with the parts that relate to borders between the UK and the EU. So, the Brexiteer Tory governmeny selling the idea that there would never be customs checks on the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland was a lie. And they signed the TCA knowing that. That's how deceitful the Tories were. their incompetence is costing us millions of pounds everyday. Just in lost custom duties, the HMRC stated we were losing £800 million of customs duties every quarter since leaving the EU.
Orban also thinks as an exceptionalist. But he is not stupid as Johnson.
But he still is an immoral fascist and Hungary should be kicked out of the EU and out of NATO.
He may be less stupid, but he's even more despicable. What he's willing to for his own gains while destroying democracy is reprehensible. But sadly, just like in UK, populists fall for the lies and let it go on. It's easier to blame someone else for your poor position in life than taking your own responsibility. But it'll only make things worse. Some day, and it may be sooner than we think, their eyes will finally be opened and we may see a shift to better politics. For a while at least...
As a U.S citizen who has been playing with the idea of moving to Europe. I take it from this video, finically, that it would be better to either go to Ireland or the European Union mainland and not to include the U.K as one of choice.
The netherlands is great for americans becouse of a high level of english proficiency and with a similar culture
@@definitlynotbenlente7671 Thank you for telling me that, I will look into that. after all I am interested in trying to learn another language, especially the ones from the areas in which my family came from, but as it stands right now if I where able to go to Europe right now it would be difficult for me to communicate with people using their native language.
I mean I know most, if not all, European countries have a good portion, not all, of their people who can speak english. but if I tried to speak their language right now I would probably end up asking for a toilet on top of my head when I was actually just asking for directions. Lol.
“We can just enjoy the benefits of EU membership with none of the obligations. I’m sure the other EU countries will be okay with that.”
Brexit isn't an issue in Europe enymore!
I feel sorry for the Scots, no wonder they want to leave the UK, I'd want to divorce that too
Break the union - I mean the British . Long live the union - I mean the European .
Bravo for this video! What a whole lotta truths in 12 minutes!
And remember people, only a few big mouthed politicians promoted Brexit, but more than half of the UK voted to leave. One doesn´t get lied to, unless he wants to, or simply just doesn´t care.
First sensible, speech I have heard since, Brexit. Thank god.
Brexit was an unmitigated catastrophe for the UK economy, on so many levels. In 2016, I tried my best to persuade people not to vote leave, but so many sincerely believed the lies told by the Brexiteers, I was just astonished at the level of ignorance, and anti-foreigner prejudice - it was easy to whip up xenophobia and dupe them with blatantly false promises. However, the ultimate act of irresponsibility was the Tory Government going ahead with Brexit, they could have, in the national economic interest, chosen to suspend Brexit, or even hold a second referendum a year, or two later. Self-interest always wins in the Tory Party, and those wealthy Tories that wanted to escape the new EU legislation, scrutinising, and regulating their financial affairs in the interest of public transparency - opted to put their own greedy financial affairs ahead of those of the British people. We all now know, that it was the corrupt Tory Party that sunk Britain’s economic future!
They shouldn't have had the referendum in the first place. Don't ask idiots to make decisions about topics they haven't even the faintest understanding about.
It was a pathetic attempt to try to win votes badly from ukip that backfired.
They're still not the greatest offenders though. Boris Johnson and Nigel Farrage should go down in history as the two people who destroyed the uk's economy.
As an Irish person i feel very sorry for the sane people of Britain ...but very angry towords the miopic fools who led their country to this sad place and endangered the peace and wellbeing of my country without thought amd despite MANY AND REPEATED warnings.
I think Britain will be in a very bad state by the time they get around to asking for E.U. membership....and how can they rejoin abd keep the pound ...thst will hurt.
I'm sorry but a 10 year-old school child could have figured out that cancelling all of the favorable trade agreements with the EU was going to come back to haunt us. This is what happens when people listen to rich Tories who already had a plan to increase their own profit at the expense of hundreds of thousands high of paying jobs leaving for the EU, farms that can't operate without EU workers, goods can't be delivered without EU drivers, UK fisherman struggling because of territorial waters issues, and high customs/duties on UK products that now make them practically unsellable. Nice job Tories..... Why do you still have jobs? If this happened in the companies YOU own or in the private sector in general, you'd be fired and blacklisted in an instant. Complete shite.
There are three things that need to be pointed out here that have been highlighted starkly by Brexit for the Uk and that people really do need to take note of. The constant demands by an ever-growing majority in the Uk to either reignite closer ties with the EU or drop the idea of leaving and just rejoin can no longer be ignored by the government but the problem is not only is that government becoming ever more entrenched in the idea of 'Well if we can leave fully then we had better try and make it work idea' highlights the disparity and disconnect between those in Westminster and the people of the Uk as awhile no matter their political tribal goals. Brexit has shown itself for what it is and the fact that a large number of people not only predicted this would happen in the run-up and since also laid out exactly why it would not work for the Uk which brings us to the first two points.
The EU has made it plain that they will require proof of major political and social reform inside the Uk before they will ever consider entertaining an application to rejoin and who could blame them. What they are seeing currently is a monumental disparity between what the people want and what the politicians say they want and yet neither side can establish a dialogue with the other. Brexiteers, who have worked tirelessly for over 50 years to get the Uk out now feel duty-bound to cling to their ideologically driven ideals the people on the other hand have seen their standard of living crash in a spectacular fashion and witnessed all manner of corruption within their own government go unaddressed. Do they trust Westminster, well would you? having seen literally billion wiped off the value of our economy and further billions blatantly stolen in broad daylight by politicians and their familiars yet find themselves powerless to do anything meaningful about this parlous situation locked as they are into this ridiculous FPTP voting system by the very politicians they are trying to bring to heel so reforms are high in the agenda. Not only political but social and that starts with education where successive governments in the Uk uncertain of their place in the EU have worked hard to exclude anything from the curriculum that even mentioned the EU at all leaving the populace ignorant of the EU at worst and ambivalent towards it at best, they don't understand it for the most part and those of us that do find themselves easily silenced by a government hell-bent on proving its point no matter what the cost.
The very timeline of Brexit left a lot in the Uk very uneasy as to its ultimate motives, why would a country that had everything its people needed simply throw all that away for what was obviously a very bleak future indeed. They ask themselves what was it their corrupt political classes and their financial backers were gaining because it soon became obvious the people certainly were not and never would. Detractors were quick to point out that the silence from the EU on these matters was proof positive that leaving was the only option but in fact, all it proved was not only did they not understand how the EU worked, and I mean at all, but also that they had no intention of finding out how it worked or allowing the population that privilege clearly proving that the EU was correct to demand both major political reforms in the Uk take place but also that social reforms be seen to take place and a consensus form among those people to rejoin and more importantly engage with the EU itself.
The final point is one of historical importance to the argument and goes right back to DeGaul's strident and now proven objections to the Uk joining the European group in the first place, He recognised just how divisive the Uk could be to the block overall and how the machinations of its political classes would and did prove to be a serious problem going forwards. Described by some as British exceptionalism it was in fact something deeply ingrained in the people of the Uk that they were somehow entitled to everything because the world owed them everything and that has not changed even today. Shambling political figures bumbling off to Europe to teach those mud hut dwellers who the boss dog around these parts is how a lot of us see our own politicians and the fact that those same self-entitled politicians see no problem with any of this highlights the disconnect between them and the people they are meant to serve and some of them really are as thick as mince and obviously in the game simply to stuff public money into their own pockets, they are as a group tragically comical and as such the real enemy of this state. Degaul was right all along and the fact that his objections were so easily brushed aside by the Uk Heath government showed only how duplicitous the Uk government could actually be. So Political and social reforms inside this sheep-infested plague island are going to have to take place before progress can be made and it is to be hoped the EU stands its ground and ensures that happens and holds off dealing the Uk back into the game until it can prove it can play nice with its friends across the channel.
This is exactly the sort of thing any over-entitled person or country should not only get but expect from their entitled actions. I just feel sorry for those UK citizens who did not support this idiotic move.
So we're back to the fifties and sixties and DeGaulle's off repeated, "NON!"
It's worse than that. In the 1950s UK government was ratcheting up the rape of remaining colonies' wealth through manipulation of the sterling area, etc. This was the metropole's thanks for the thousands of dead and millions of tons of materiel provided by these colonies during WWII. There are no colonies now to plunder (TG) and oil revenues have largely been pissed up a car park wall. So, with Brexshite, UK is truly alone and for the first time in centuries. It's going to be a tough transition to being just another medium-sized country.
Not really. The EU and its members now have 40plus years of experience in UK behaviour as a member, and as former member.
More items on the list of "reasons to say NON"
@@ab-ym3bf Now it's: Non, Nein, Nee, Njet, Nay....
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@@kevinnolan1339 UK still counts Scotland as a colony.
Next stop on the Brexit train: the UK breaks apart into it's constituent nations and fades into obscurity
I actually think we might see the UK breaking up. If Scotland votes for independence and Northern Ireland joins Ireland that will just leave England and Wales. Not much of a union.