How Habbo Hotel Turned Its Players Into Ruthless Teenage Capitalists
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Habbo describes itself as the "world's largest community for teens". It is essentially a glorified chatroom where players would have little avatars who can chat with other people and visit other rooms. However, the way the game was set up has led to this innocent game targeted at teenagers to turn into a terrifying experiment of unregulated capitalism. This video explains how.
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00:00 Introduction
03:05 Giveaways
06:35 Corporations
10:53 Gambling
14:26 Conclusion
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Hey Trolligarch. If you're still actively making videos contact me. I have some interesting info similar to this on a game called OurWorld which has fallen into anarchy. Could make an interesting short video.
In the video you said you couldn't rig dice,
This isn't correct, with wired you can force the dice to a certain state with a trigger so it can be possible it's just hard to get away with
Ok
I think Discord is definitely a MECCA 4 PEDOPHILES
Trolligarch check out PIMD(Party in my Dorm). A “role playing” game where real money gets you the latest furniture, avatars, items, and it can be sold for real money on what ATA devs call the black market.
people straight up started a pyramid scheme in habbo
Not gonna lie I would like to do that
The problem is, pyramid schemes rely on retards to literally sign themselves up for the scam. Most people at least have a bit of sense unlike the kids that played habbo.
@@andrewhsu7202 nah they dont, we are getting scammed every single day
@@andrewhsu7202 i remember taking part of a pyramid scheme in habbo and it was indeed crowded af
EVE online had a wild Ponzi Scheme a while back.
And to think I wasted my time on club penguin when I could have been building a slave trade on habbo
I never knew habbo had a real history.
It was rude the First times i got Scammed
jup we had the 2nd biggest maffia on the site
3k like!
Zer Daddy i used to own a casino and just open and reclose it with all the inested money and pretty much the same people would come back without knowing and then in a week u just close the casino and reopen it with free profit
Does anyone remember dressing like a baby and getting 'adopted' and then your adoptive parents would give your furniture
Why did i do this lmaoo
I remember being a parent on there and having a son for a year but never played as a baby lol
Noooo
So you had a sugar daddy?
@@enzoqueijao Now that I think about it, that's exactly what this was. Except literal daddy, given how many people acting as babies would just *cry*.
I played Haboo once, and the first room I find is one like this. I quit the game after being adopted by 10 different people.
I once worked for 4 hours straight on habbo without anyone paying me, I accidentally logged off and while I tried to explain what happened to the people in the game I cried in real life. I didn't get paid
still more dignity than working retail
When buying furniture is harder than any game mechanic.
Soooo just like real life?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
thats sad.
"Pools closed, due to aids and stingrays."
Ah shit I remember this, great stuff
Quacky raid, damn I remember that
🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿🕴🏿
*POOL CLOSED DUE TO AIDS*
Stingraids
Classic
My cousin use to go to populated areas in runescape and say “anyone need a gf” and then she would say it would cost 300 coin and as soon as they made the transfer she would block them
300 coin is like nothing, your cousin needs to up her prices
what a fucking legend
Tell her to try asking for 300k...
Lmao theres no point in scamming at runescape, u can just get millions by asking to get help
İbrahim Belen this isn’t garanteed and I hate people who spam beg at GE, but I was my poor self, saying funny things for money, selling ‘funny’ things (‘selling weed’ *gives grass rune*) and some guy traded with me , gave me 10 mil and full iron gilded and after my thank you s, left. I spent at least 5 mil giving back, doing rune scim drop parties and exposing scammers, buying other people’s funny shit, just donating. Such a fun rewarding experience. People can just donate millions to you if you stick around long enough
“Assuming it’s not rigged, you have a 50% chance” nice foreshadowing to the next vid now that I’m revisiting this
and its always rigged... without exception ^)^
I havnt watched this one yet but if the maker of the video didn't mention keylogging and habbo radio scams then he hasn't scratched the surface yet
The one major difference between Habbo and anarcho-capitalism is that Habbo can magically assure that there is no violence or straightforwards property theft.
True but it is a good analysis of how even the most ideal form of capitalism is tyranny via class-ism and business control.
@@desmondbrown5508 My actual line of thought in posting that comment was that in an ordinary situation anarcho-capitalism wouldn't work because the workers could simply seize the means of production because capitalism requires a State to function
@@firetarrasque4667 not necessarily the black market trade says otherwise... money is just a representation of value so if money no longer has value we would just go back to trade/bartering... there need not be any state just have something thats valuable that someone wants more than you...
@@happyjohn354 Markets and capitalism aren't the same, afraid to say. Capitalism is when the means of production are privately owned.
@@firetarrasque4667 well durr but you can still own a means of production without a state...
I got banned for 11 years for trying to sell a sofa for 20 coins, I’ve been waiting for 10 years since
Wut..........guess you will be waiting another 9 more year.......
Can people still get banned nowadays?
MR AD guess you cant read or dont know math
@@fredrickrodriguez2175 ask him wus 9 + 10
@@domkoupil9808 21?
Ah I remember playing Habbo. I never understood how agencies worked and why someone would pay real money to pay fake money to people for just standing around "working security" or if there were even real people behind them, so I was jobless and broke and just goofed around the edges of the Habbo society with my friends, doing nothing of actual value.
Wait a minute, that's just my life right now. What the fuck.
This hit too hard
Mike Tyson with the feelings
I played the hacked version called "pro hotel" until it got shut down
when i used to play habbo years back, I had a job and was able to be promoted to a high position after months of “working.” It was super fuuunnn thoo. I miss playing habbo
Actually it is not fake money since it is backed by real currency.
Game: *has tradeable currency in it*
Players: ...anarcho-capitalism it is
The superior system rises organically
@@adolfhitlerwithinternetacc6259 you'd think that, adolf
@@adolfhitlerwithinternetacc6259 Funny you should say that because you got rekt by communists, LOL
@@nixtoshi Based
Money systems in these type of sites always end up horribly wrong. Whether they turn the whole site into a simulation of anarcho-capitalism or hyperinflate into oblivion.
Justas I see someone else remembers Gaia online
If there’s a will, there’s a way.
And if there’s money, there’s a will.
OSRS is pretty sane imo
money systems in games go infinitely deep the moment you give players the ability to trade goods/money, and its usually inflation. animal crossing players make you spend millions for things they didnt even work to get, neopets has players spending millions and millions of money to make their pet look cool, prices of some things in final fantasy 11 went up tenfold, etc. EVE Online is pretty much one of the most resilient virtual economies in human history but that is an absolute miracle with so many devastated economies around because people either get lucky and find an item highly in demand with no supply to support the demand or people dupe things or farm items that should be worth more than they become. It especially gets messy with real life money because the moment money trading is added especially without heavy moderation everywhere people will sell virtual money for real money
it doesnt get nearly as interesting but having a system where you can only buy and sell directly with NPCs is something you could do to make an economy basically flatline and never get crazy and do dumb things, like the video mentions Club Penguin which only let you buy from NPCs so the economy never even had a chance to mess up
I think an mmo rpg that has a nice middleground is what Wizard101 did quite honestly with the Bazaar where you can buy and sell equipment and crafting recipes to an NPC but you dont get the freedom to rack up the price and instead the price automatically goes up and down depending on how many are in stock that players sold to him, and all items bought with the Real Life Money Currency cannot be sold or bought there
@@farenhite4329 fax
When I was 12 years old someone told me that if I put my password in the chat box and pressed some keys on the keyboard, a funny emoticon would appear, and when I did it he stole all my stuff. It's been 10 years and it still makes me angry that I fell for that smh.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dude, I am literally wheezing right now. Oldest, and I mean, OLDEST fucking trick in the book!
lol
I'm betting those keys that you put down after your password were alt+f4
Same lol.
SHOUT YOUR PASSWORD AND IT COMES OUT AS *********
Me: pikachu32
Me: it didn't work
Even when I was on it as a 13 year old (and never spending any real money), something felt very dark about this game. The weirdest story I have is when I entered a room and started speaking old English, so people started listening to me and thinking I was like some religious figure or something and then this 18-year-old started messaging me for advice about whether he should convert to Islam in order to marry his long-term girlfriend 😂I freaked out a little and told him I was just a 13-year-old kid so the conversation ended pretty quickly after that.
We can make religion out of this.
@@celestinemachuca8930 Let's start a new society.
I couldn't spend money in any game,my parents moderated any online payment. Grinding in games was painful to me as a child.
As a Muslim I am screaming lmao bless your traumatised soul
@@celestinemachuca8930 pls no
That just sounds like real life with extra steps
best comment
The scam I hated the most as a kid was when someone sold you a teleporter that didn't work. Every elevator, closet, phonebooth, and porta-potty is made as a pair such that you walk into one and come out the other. Each has a unique ID for itself and its twin, and these can't be changed. There's no safeguard preventing people from separating pairs, so people often sell single ones to noobs or two that aren't linked. You can't ask them to show you that they work because they could easily demo a working pair but sell you different ones. 1 in 1 million chance you walk through a teleporter and meet whoever got scammed with the other one, but people don't normally bother putting them out. There are countless broken teleporters floating in cyberspace because of this. As a programmer, I consider this an awful mechanic.
lmao I remember the teleports. Actually pretty cool that you could teleport, if it was a workable pair lol, to other people's room. It was a nice feature. But yea I feel the emotions on this.
Hoje em dia o habbo implementou um sistema de "ligar um par de Teles" é bem interessante, pena que demorou 20 anos para isso acontecer
Mastering Habbo economy is harder than getting an economics degree.
i have learnd alot in this game and never spend a cent. then i got hacked and lost everything. i had to let go my employies :(
The real trick to it is leaving behind what is "ethical". You're an agency, Not a damn charity!
@@ashleybyrd2015 yup,those so called righteous people don't have the heart to do it
I literally wasted all my day in this game with my friend. I remember forcing her to find a rich bf and when he gives coins to her, I would get the half. Best way to get rich in Habbo 11/10
Swegcisu sounds like a pimp hahahaha
I like how, even in a game with no direct connection to real life unregulated capitalistic economics, still happened to create every single example of it. Casinos, pyramid schemes, rigged games with no end goals, monopolies, you name it.
Bruh.. i ran a pyramid scheme but at least I didn't pimp my own friend out haha
@@Lucardini After some time she started to get rich bfs by herself and not by force because of the money lol
Swegcisu I guess I was her biggest client. I guess you owe me some Habbo coins!😂
When I was a kid I reported someone on Habbo for saying I wasn't cool
Bruh
That kid had it coming.
Elizabeth Armitage you arent cool
You weren't very cool then but you're pretty cool now.
To be fair though they weren't lying.
It seems like a massive benefit of virtual games is to have social experiments or economic experiments in a much more ethical way than to attempt it in real life
That is exactly the reason why I watch stuff like this as an econ major lol.
This one is more of a hilarious story than anything actually usable by a scientist though. Habbo didn't have a real way of generating value, so it's entire economy had to be based upon scams and exploitation by design. Totally interesting and fun to listen to, but not really applicable to the real world.
@@Fischdosepremium
Runescape on the other hand...
i hope no kid has a lifelong gambling addiction bc they spent all their allowance on coins
but fr there is so much to learn about our capitalism from this lord of the flies version
@@mylhouse0887 Good point, I wonder how susceptible kids are to gambling addiction compared to adults? As a kid I spent my allowance on similar virtual nothings, and it only taught me what a waste it is
@@TV---kn2rl I know I'm late to the party, but the answer is more vulnerable than adults. I work in addictions and research suggests kids age 12 are about 8 times more likely to develop an addiction than an 18 year old, and 18 year olds are about 8 times more likely than 25 year olds to develop addictions. So 12 year olds are very vulnerable, from the perspective of addiction treatment professionals. The earlier you're exposed to a substance or behavioral process, the more likely you are to develop an addiction, up until about age 25, since that's about when your brain is fully developed
Habbo has one very major difference from a normal deregulated economy. It was an economy without any form of wealth creation. No primary or secondary industries means that the economy becomes a zero sum game, and only way to make money is effectively exploitative.
But the money is controlled by a central authority !
so that's not a true deregulated economy anyway.
Also no real consequences or incentive to make a profit.
That's what I thought. People tend to think that captalism is a zero sum game like Habbo, when in reality wealth can and is created by making ir producing New things. Wealth then is measured by the amount of things and services that can be achived by one's limites resources
Nicotavo Nick is wealth created though? Things are created services are created. Peoples wealth gets distributed differently based on new things and services. But is new wealth actually being generated or just redistributed?
@@Cowboydjrobot Every new resource obtained from primary industry, every object created in a factory, every new idea. These are all new wealth.
I had like 3 habbo girlfriends and when one would teleport to me seeing me with another one they would start arguing and cursing me out lmaoooo good times
Lol
Those HC girls were easy.
I once lied in the same bed as my friend and his girlfriend came and dumped him thinking he was gay lmao
@@iratepirate3896 thats actually true lots of them look the same and are really dumb and trashy but some of them can be nice(sadly i never met a nice one)
two neckbeards fighting over a third, that is poetic
Eve online is still more badass, having people using years on infiltration and spying to get information or close down a rivaled corporation, or steal ships and assets.
its starting to get too realistic for a game, that way I play real life
The difference is that EVE has a sense of community. People didn't want an unregulated environment, so they self-regulated in many places. Habbo lacks that sense of community. That's why agencies aren't an arrangement of work like EVE's corporations, but straight up pyramid schemes.
@@kabobawsome
I look at it in another way. Basically, libertarianism can't work in real life. Like the way the goons went after recruiting noobs and then roflstomped the smaller elite alliances under the sheer weight of numbers. And then everyone else had to follow, and EVE got three gigantic space battles.
@The industrial revolution was a disaster if want to experience that....play "Rival Region"
any good videos about what you described? Im interested...
“I am Andrew Ryan, and I am here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
'No,' says the man in Washington, 'it belongs to the poor.'
'No,' says the man in the Vatican, 'it belongs to God.'
'No,' says the man in Moscow, 'it belongs to everyone.'
I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose…
Rapture.
A city where the artist would not fear the censor,
where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality,
where the great would not be constrained by the small.
And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city, as well.”
if bioshock made you like the rapture i think you misunderstood it
Ruben S I don’t like the idea but I do like the name so I’m supporting it
@@arcticmonke7661 and i definitely wouldnt blame you. Man's charismatic madman
Habbo Hotel..home. At least it was before the Anarcho-Capitalists hecced everything up.
Is a man not entitled to the AIDs in his own pool?
This is nothing compared to the communist uprising against the people with memberships in club penguin
Angelica U. THE WHAT. PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THIS THATS INCREDIBLE
What?
I always bought that membership cause my favorite part of the game was flexing
@@marycolabella4212 he's just talking about that quackity raid...
Quackity brings the workers revolution
Someone should have gotten on there and taught some union organising skills.
Phoebe Artemis 😂😂🤷🏻♀️
Would have been useful for them in real life too...
amazon didnt like this
@@hotshotroom964 Indeed not!
How would that have helped?
>government bans child gambling
>habbo forced to fire employees preventing child gambling
>child gambling continues
Beautiful
imagine getting screwed out of your job over something that just got worse after
Not Stonks
its like when you ban a drug but people still do it they just die of tainted stuff and kill each other over it instead of doing it more safely.
@@mylhouse0887 "we herd u liek smoking weed, so we banned it **oops** here have these really dodgy synthetic cannabinoids instead lol hope you enjoy psych wards"
This brings back some good memories. It's so true about the power statement. Being a coinless scrub lining up for hours to maybe get a duck here and there was a brutal life. I used to work at a Falling Furnie room, and I felt so powerful being in charge of the game. Eventually the owner of the room quit and gave it all to me, and I felt like an absolute king. My personal room looked so baller, and I had so many teleporters I must've made 20 maze games and a private club. I was raking in so much money and rising the social ladder so quickly. It was magical. Almost makes me want to log in on Habbo again... almost...
Of course this video was supposed to display how bad this stuff was... erm... bad habbo! Bad!
im a 30 year old man and i logged back in the other day, i played when i was a kid, like 12-15, there is something so awesome about habbo, i had a very similar story, someone gave me a duck when i started and i traded and traded and traded up and got rich off just trading and going to giveaways and fallin furni and casinos, it was so fun gertting a throne and a dino and the mazes, i literally still crave to this day
Finnish Habbo (which is the original one) had competing militaries that emulated the real military in terms of ranks and discipline.
sorry i know this comment is four years old but i need to know more
Things that define anarcho-capitalism:
1. Anarchy
2. Capitalism
...sounds legit.
He kinda did explain it, though.
Like, I remember how my teachers used to mark powerpoints with one or two words every page much higher than powerpoints that spew information, because the lion's share of the effort is in the verbal explanation.
Bartosz Wojczyński don’t forget extreme ideological contradictions
And pedophilia.
@@Hyperversum3 tell this to the US educational system, 29+ thousands of pedophilia and pederasty cases
@@pedesromanus657 Pedos in a nationalized system doesn't change that people selling kids as child slaves aren't exactly lawful individuals that wouldn't dare to do it in broad daylight if they had the chance
My thoughts on Habbo before this: Haha pool's closed due to aids
My thoughts on Habbo after this: Well, this was a trainwreck...
no reference to the Genos? eh... you people know nothing.
There is something called the "Crazy chair"
The owner moves chairs around for all of the people but one.
If you're left without a chair you're gone unless you buy lifes (A credit, a life. Furniture accepted)
When you win, you're told you're in for a final, so they sit you in some sort of winner seat.
While noone pays attention, they ban you
So in other words Habbo Hotel simulates the late 19th century economy.
Does that mean that there'll be 2 huge wars and a communist revolution?
I WANT THE REINCARNATION OF THE SOVIET UNION AND I WANT IT NOW!!!
*YES*
We can eat capitalism out from the inside, We start off as an agency and then use the money to start a REVOLUTION.
NUKES
hopefully without the 2 wars
These type of games with econonies that mimic real-life, incentivize scamming, and obeying higher bosses imitating reality, is 100x more entertaining than any other type of game
Case in point: crate depression
As a student of economics I'm always fascinated to see what i study in theory, with rather counterintuitive mathematical models, appear so brightly in many games.
you should try eve online
@@francescoazzoni3445 It's fascinating for me to see just how depraved communities can become, and those types of communities happen to be gold mines of psychological, moral & social decay. Knowledge is fun... when you're the one in control.
To me, economics are fascinating... until it starts to involve heavy social engineering & exploitation of people on a large scale. At that point it just becomes repulsive and frankly sociopathic in nature.
You need to watch/read about 2b2t, it's a Minecraft Anarchy server and researching the main history is genuinely some of the most entertaining things I've ever seen on the internet.
Someone needs to do an Habbo documentary some day, describing its rise and fall and its greatness
This is fucking incredible to me. It's amazing what games so seemingly simple can be turned into when the playerbase is given so much freedom.
you should watch Red Bard's Gaia Online vid and Izzzyzzz's Animal Jam vid if you want more of that sweet sweet "online game turned capitalist nightmare" fuel
I played Habbo Hotel some 18 years ago. I’m 28 now. Everything he says in this video was true even back then. Moderators existed, but pretty much no matter what you did in private rooms they didn’t bother. Only place there was reason to fear them was at the large public rooms like the pool, because if you said simply mean things there you got blocked out pretty quickly for a while.
The non-moderation in private rooms lead to incredible scamming culture. Me and my friend were accumulating a shared stash of items to run our own little casino. I don't think you could pass coins/credits back then or maybe just no one had them. We got furniture as payment by participating in agencies like in the video and trying to play casino games but the latter never worked out because even at the fairest the odds were 50/50. Working in agencies was rough. Back then they were mostly “militaries” and generally hazed newcomers. You’d have to do some sort of squats where you sit in a chair and stand up for 1000 reps. Once you got through hazing and they got to know you they’d easy up though, and you’d be given certain control in their rooms. I think we simply loaned some items from the military to run our scam casino, because the military had begun trusting us enough. If you messed with them they’d do all in their power to hit back because they generally had little to do and they were the military after all. I think I remember some times when we attacked some "enemy" rooms, entering them and spamming text that offended them. There was no room-wide mute. If there was no one with rights to the room present you could cover the entire room with text bubbles.
When we finally reached enough furniture to prop up a cheap-looking, bare-bones casino, we immediately ran a scamming operation from the get-go without even any experience at running a casino. The usual tactic most casinos seemed to do was have a friend win. We sucked at the chair game so bad that even with us co-operating someone else would always end up winning, but at that point we'd just have to pretty conspicuously kick them out and pretend like nothing happened. They might keep returning to the room, because you couldn't block people from entering. If it got too bad we might have to start up another room or even transfer our items to new characters by one of us acting as the middleman. But even like this, somehow, you'd find people willing to play. The stuff they wagered was always the cheapest brown trash that no one wanted even as currency, so we didn't exactly make bank. We had a room full of brown trash and a few loaned colorful items, that's about it.
The best thing you could do in Habbo, and which was heavily influenced by how rich you appeared, was to have cyber sex. There were pair beds two people could get in, and then you’d write in text how you’d have sex. It was run by the imagination of little kids, so it was pretty much what you’d expect. You’d also constantly be out of sync. In fact the usual reason for us two to enter the public rooms and especially the dance club was to find cyber sex partners. It was pretty fun in itself to hit on girls, Night at the Roxbury style.
I don’t think we ever got banned really. We just drifted to other games like Runescape, where we were scamming people into entering the Wilderness by one of us teaming up with someone random to gank others, but that person just ending up getting ganked themselves.
Wow
congrats you are a trash person, and its sad that im getting a vibe from you that seems like you are proud of the things you have done. weirdo.
And I thought exploting Minecraft glitches where bad when I was a kid.
wow what a trip, thanks for sharing your detailed story. Yeah, it's funny how we get sucked into the very system we hate. For me I also joined an agency, but more social one later on, I enjoyed making friends aspect and wasn't in it for the money.
Maybe if you had the chance to have that experience, you or perhaps others could enjoy the social and community part of habbo . Anyways just my short experience role playing was fun for me in this game and what I remember fondly.
@@DwnGoz RestrictMania
"We live in a society" Habbo version.
We live in a mecca for pedophiles.
I wasted my time slaying dragons and killing goblins in runescape when I could have been a power-hungry captailist. Goddamn I wasted my childhood.
Yeah,but the people that did it is at least have to be above average smart
Yeah man, how could i have missed this when i played habbo even tho it was very little
It's weird seeing my childhood broken down like this. It's so accurate too.
Ikr I played for like 6 years
11/10 would steal kids' money again
Frfr hahahaha
😂😂😂
Hmm
@@ballbag good old days
@@ballbag youre a pure scumbag and i wish everything bad unto you
I remember my brother's friend created a website that allowed him to know the account and password of anyone who enters it while having Habbo open. He got alot of coins like that. I was 8 at the time so it didn't occured to me that it was theft until I thought about it recently.
Habbo really was a cesspoll, wasn't it?
How did he manage that?
@@aliasofgray2854 I dunno, 8 year old me was not exactly a master of technology.
I remember when I was 9 I fell for one of those scam websites and all my coins got stolen. I cried the whole day, but learned a valuable lesson.
And fuck your friend
those fucking fake habbo free coins websites : I fell for like 10 of them but they wouldnt steal shit cos i didnt have shit
@@BraceInc I used to.make.many they cant steal your info the way this comment suggest though
A guy at my school once made a Habbo hotel and almost everyone at our school was on it. He gave me money to buy furniture and I build the nicest room in the whole hotel. It was a park with a river and a bench. Every time I think about that period in my life, it makes me happy. The guy who made the hotel even set it as the "home room" of the hotel.
The most shocking part for me is the implication that people are still playing habbo hotel
I have one thing to say:
Bobba.
Bobber
chansey you bobba
I'm gonna say the n-word
Bobba
Le Petitioner you bobba bobba
Bow-bah?!
why was i on moshi monsters when i could of been making bank on habbo
ikr. there i was, paying for a club penguin membership like a loser. shouldve started scamming at 8. imagine where id be now if that was my gig, lol.
Oh god, forgot that game existed
@@theblackkoopa2329 The same place with looser morals and slightly fewer friends. You can't make any money on sites like Habbo. There's nothing to spend the coins on so there's not much demand.
“How Habbo hotel turned its players into ruthless teenage capitalists”
Me reading the title for the first time: Oh cool....
*wait what?*
lol "teenagers" me and my cousin played this at like 10 yr old and my god were we ruthless child capitalists. i was a right scammer.
"people get paid to recruit others"
Dang, MLMs have infiltrated even games 😂
When your boss violates the NAP when he underpays you for your job. So you retaliate by launching your army of 600 recreational nukes on the McArmyBaseTM which your boss owns.
peak libright
So what you're saying is Habbo needs a union?
a Union in Habbo would just explore the workers just like the agen... wait a fucking second, thats how real unions work lol
no, they need to make a V1 (2001-2002) server and go back to the simple times. No tradeable coins, no dice, no rares, no exclusive clubs
Union of worker!
a soviet union?
No, we need a anarco-primitivism server
“Club penguin for teenagers”
You do realise most of the club penguin playerbase was teenagers
my favorite thing was to take the jackhammer and push the button to pull it out repeatedly so that it looked like my penguin was rummaging around behind his back and then type in all caps I HAVE A GUN!!!!!!
No it wasnt, it was children lmao
This man made a documentary on habbo we’re living in the best timeline
and its a very good documentary about a sadistic experiment actually
man, you made me smile
My first ever experience striking was on Habbo. I was one of those “models” that would judge other people’s looks. Anyway, long story short the owner of the modelling room wanted to start charging us for using the room to judge other people (it was all in good fun). All of the “judges” private messages each other and stopped visiting the room so her room wasn’t popular anymore.
Good times 😂
Trade Unions, BITCH!
Really, tho, y'all did great.
Solidarity forever!
So in short... Habbo shows how close we are to the mindset of a cultural cyberpunk society
all the oligopolies in our capitalist nations
In 2006-2008 it was madness. Totally unregulated, scamming people was so easy and you'd get away with it so easily
fam, 2003-2012 was legit the years i sat and rinsed 9 years of my life into this game, gambling gold bars and shit in the casino fml. now it feels like a prison sentence looking back lmao. ngl though i did have some funny times on this game.
I was a dealer in a decent casino and I was making bank off it. I haven't played in years and didn't know gambling was banned now. I wish I could go back to those days
rip habbo, we didn't know how good we had it.
I was thinking the same thing and I only played from 08 till 2014. Still had a good time though w my real life friends scamming people and being like 12 years old. I wouldn’t change it
Same it’s actually crazy I was fucking 10 and gambling online 😭😭
I was hanging out with my boys it was awesome
I worked for one of the Habbo agencies when I was a kid. I never got paid a dime.
did you get "promotion as payment" instead? i still haven't gotten my "payment badge."
volcanic red wait that was a thing? I used to get “promotions” like every day at that place
@@DrCanary i didn't get a single credit in three days of being there. they literally just try and fool you into thinking that you're getting closer to being paid the whole time. they promoted me every 10 minutes, told me that payment was closed for the day but that i could get "promotion _as payment"_ to avoid paying me, then the next day i had someone promote me to advertiser for no reason instead of telling me how to get my fucking pay badge... then eventually, when i hounded them for details enough, they brought up "online time points" which, surprise surprise, had not been mentioned at any point before. they just keep stringing you along like you're their lapdog, which would actually be amusing if it wasn't so depressing.
I worked at an agency like 3 years ago, i saved like 30 credits, and then started trading, i raised my networth to 300 credits lmao
I played on the alternative servers where you started with thousands of coins. We were like 10 people in there and we ended up being super close friends. All without spending a single cent.
this video is literally one of my favorites. i keep coming back to it! its rly well made and im excited to see what you post next :)
The two things I loved doing on habbo as a kid were:
Scamming children with the dice
Getting into corporations by using the ghost effect and back clothing wich made you almost invisible
The hot pink purplish color would make you completely invisible
Interesting
Anarcho-kikoism
Why the fuck are you here?
Lmao
Anarcho-Adolescence
Hello junior egg
this game was so addictive as a kid. I would roleplay on there a lot (I remember being really fond of airplane roleplay rooms but then it'd get sad quick when people pretended to be terrorists, huge yikes all around). One time my older brother and I were messing around and dressed up as "hobo santa claus", found a scraggly looking kid, convinced him he was "shovels the elf", the orphan that wraps bodies instead of presents, the guy totally went along with it, we confused the shit out of a bunch of people, and I still think about it from time to time. I enjoyed the day I spent with shovels the elf so much, I wonder if he's still out there and remembers this wild fucking stuff that we did like I do. Weird, weird memories.
damn dude. you okay?
I have to agree, simulating America except ten times worse truly is the pinnacle of human achievement.
In terms of the "giveaways" section, you forgot to mention that you have the ability to 'stack' furniture into eachother, so people end up stacking about 100 of the teleporters into eachother on each of the "losing" spots. and only one on the "winning" spot. this ensures that you have an even greater monetary value after fast pass, super fast pass and ultra super fast pass purchases (yes, there usually is that many).
sources: me, making bank off kids on habbo
"Its not stacked trust me lol"
@@pergioserez You could actually see if there were stacked items, because they'd usually become brighter as more items were stacked, so it wasn't that it was a secret, it was more that you didn't know the odds, as you would do with a dice.
Lol this game was mental
This is why I played on retros, they were literally my shit.
t r u e
Retros were way better. I could actually build shit there
retros were anarcho communism counterparts
@@chalk6168 retros are still the shit even old school runescape has a functioning economy with gold worth more then money
did anyone play shade hotel (retro)?
I think that kids should be taught this, otherwise we will have a generation of kids who dont see scams coming or dont understand how casinos make money
you can make money at a casino but you need to know how to play the system... they will often let you win a few hands to draw you in after all whats fun about a game where you always lose? win what few hands you can and know when you should walk away or go to the net game...
@@happyjohn354 how many would be a few hands, for example?
@@bangtanfoxy depends on the place and how buisy they are you eventually get a feel for it but if you have good situational awareness you tend to catch the local trend faster
"work in an agency that pays you little and demands your obedience" that was me in a Waitrose warehouse a couple of Christmases ago
when i played habo i was trying to have fun and make friends lol
Alot of people did, you all just got exploited like fuck
tys k and you ended up being scammed into somebodies pyramid sceme 😂
@@ValentinoSpoor no i got some simple game rules from momy
dont spend real cash on fake items
wich back than stil made sence
@@tysk5729 In theory, people paid to be employed in a pyramid scheme. Which is even more retarded for a glorified chat-lobby.
Then you were a noob
The hell? Here I thought I was playing a cute, innocent game.
Tom Guadalupe lmao he’s talking about a kids game chill
@Tom Guadalupe Lol this was a cute innocent game for most players but this shit was mental. I made around 100 euros on this game when I was 12 years old. We made casinos with big groups of people, but as you know: the house always wins.
@Tom Guadalupe Under 18 child gambling is fine? Okay boomer.
@Tom Guadalupe I really don't think it was ever a cute innocent game; I played back in 2010; people were just gambling, cybering and shit-talking. It was a pretty eye open introduction to the internet.
@Tom Guadalupe , imagine defending Habbo Hotel, ok boomer.
this why i love the non-toxic retros tho bc everyones equally depressed and funny dude and we all have the same credits on there they’re sick
damn man... habbo wasn't this dark when i played it 11+ years ago... it feels like somebody has taken a poo on my childhood
Yeah..I was a cheapskate, and I remember there being, like, 6 public rooms and that's it.
It was,you just didn't know about it and the stuffs happening behind the shadows
@@jekesan4221 Funny thing is, it wasnt in the shadows it was blatant as fuck
This game taught me an important lesson about scamming and trust. When i was just 11 years old, bought my first coins and some furni (green sofas, some regular dice) hoping to start my own casino. Someone that was helping me build the room befriended me and managed to phish just enough info out of me to take over my account and steal all my furni. Learned to never trust people online and have never been scammed again!
Shouts out to whoever stole the furni from Clasik back in 2007. RIP Habbo.
Me too bro, me too...
Why did you tell your account e mail and pass? That is just stupid
@@fernystein9516 kids are stupid
@@fernystein9516 i didn't.
@@jmla4803 social engineering is still working in some degree on habbo hotel.
I love how everyone in the comments is a economics major and a fiscal expert lol
Hrmmmm maybe they are? Lol...
Just like politics, and anything else.
I'm just a programmer who enjoys philosophy, No economics background needed.
Ah yes communists, the world's finest economists and fiscal experts.
@@BoogieBrando which communists?
Basically all my habbo friends quit when they banned casinos, they were such a core part of the gameplay loop.
- Play games in peoples rooms
- Sometimes win prizes
- Take those prizes and gamble them in casinos
- Usually lose it all and start over
The prizes started feeling worthless when you could only use them to decorate your room instead of using them to gamble
1st day of Habbo: casual player looking to mingle
100th day of habbo: *capitalist swine*
That just tells me you're a very poor capitalist.
Man I played habbo for so long and I feel like I just never did it right. I didn't ever get involved heavily in casinos or mafias/agencies/armies. I was a VIP in a lot of mafias/armies but I never paid for it, I just befriended people and eventually I'd be given VIP. I played a lot of games like falling furni and costume change but never for the prizes, I just enjoyed the games. My favourite thing ever was habbo mazes, god I loved the mazes.
Same here
Same, playing puzzles were my hope to win coins
me too, i still go there to play maze
its the only thing that still works good
such a relatable post
y'all lets all go do a maze together
Just wondering though, is it still mostly teenagers in 2019? I recently logged in (not the English hotel) and it was mostly 18/20+ people hanging out for nostalgia
I was born in 2002 and I played habbo since 2010 and at least in Latin American holos there are still teenagers
There’s nothing nostalgia anymore about habbo, as a long time player since 2005... I think it’s pure shit since about 2010-2011
Recently logged in again because I was curious, saw almost nothing else than FBI and CIA agencies in the navigator, 10+ fansites was reduced to 1 and stuff like 1 credit coin costing 2 credits (dafuq?)
Still find it so weird that I saw many well known habbo’s from back in the days still online now....they must be almost 30 now ....still...playing...habbo...fucking...hotel
Not sure what OLGMC is talking about, must be a retro. But Habbo itself still has quite a few Agencies running, CIA hasn't been running for quite a long time. Surprisingly the population is very decent still.
@@MrMOd3RnW4rF4R3 no its the actual habbo hotel (but the Dutch one) :)
They removed so many official rooms, it has no nostalgia anymore bc they removed them all.. :(
An-Cap works in games only because avatars don't need food, clothes or roof above head to survive, and are immortal. In real life it would end in mass starvation and homelessness.
Never heard of thos game but it sounds brutal, it's a real life simulator
All it took was me and a friend acting as a "customer" and we ran a scam falling furni game. Raked in a rediculous amount of furni in the 2 hours we ran this scam over our saturday afternoon. God I miss elementary school
Who would have thought that Habbo Hotel of all things would turn into Ayn Rand's wet dream.
Time to seize the means of production, comrades.
Workplace democracy now!
nothing simulates actual anarchy quite like habbo does
Not really, there is a state. Private property is there and violence is not possible. If it was possible to steal and kill, an actual state would emerge.
Francesco Azzoni imagine habbo wars. Lmao.
@@somethingwithbungalows I think that if they introduce stealing, violence and some kind of punishment for dying (long respawn time) some form of state would emerge
Francesco Azzoni possibly. Join or die. Probably some public executions to scare people into obeying.
@@francescoazzoni3445 I happen to be a programmer with nothing much to do (I mean that's not really a title, Anyone can program nowadays), Think I should try to make a similar game dedicated to anarchy and unfair rule?
This sounds like America with extra steps
Hotsam Noirchards heavily?
@Hotsam Noirchards Someone got butthurt
@Hotsam Noirchards He clearly made a Rick And Morty reference, inciting that he is joking. But you took it too serious expounding your point which just made you look butthurt, chill man.
Ohhh la la, somebody's gonna get laid in college
This is like America.... But with extra steps...*
Fantastic video, hope you make some more in the future!
I wonder of this guy will ever make another video. This is so nice to listen to and well made as well
They FUCKED UP when they removed the diving thing and the pizza dude who gave you pizza when u asked for it. Retros were the best.
He rarely talked about them. But he did say that’s a story for another time lol
Habboon was truly my bitch
i wish they readded the minigames,and the way they used to be,no changes
RIP babbo
This game was too frustrating to enjoy when I was a teenager. I had actually had furni because I got a rich habbo bf for the furni. I had cyber sex for furni. Then my friends got Habbo and instantly everyone demanded “GIVE ME YOUR FURNI”.
Hotel Hideaway is better because no one has to trade things for anything in return.
@@turkishsmurf bro shut up she was a teenager lol
Doll Parts x was it that fake cyber sex I used to see people having all the time, where they’d talk dirty and put the avatars next to each other? If it was real cyber sex, I’m sorry to hear that.
I stopped playing the game because social capital and not socializing was the focus of the game. I preferred to log on to other chatrooms where people actually wanted to talk instead of bragging about cyber shit they bought with their mom’s credit card.
omg i love hotel hideaway
I used to have a friend who would give me furni but my dumbass fell for those free coins scams and they took all my furni so i swapped to playing Zap Hotel LMAO
literal prostitution omg
Sounds like this wouldn't have been an issue if they kept the pools closed.
eh that shit came years later, why not make a 2001-2002 reference, back when Habbo was actually fun, before Habbo Club and Rares were added, back when it was simplistic, maybe 20 pieces of clothing only and only furniture that resembled items you'd actually find in a hotel. Ah the good ol days.
This was so informative! Thank you for making this!
Impressive documentary. You have a knack for this and I would love if you made more on other Habbo subjects.
It can be enticing to fall into the trap of scams and con games. Most users are kids who lack a solid sense of self and moral compass, and so they watch their peers find success by conducting themselves in duplicitous ways, and so they start doing the same.
With the lack of moderation scamming quickly becomes the best way to get ahead, other than, you know, actually buying credits the legit way. As a child on Habbo Hotel I was not immune to this type of behaviour myself. I would host falling furniture games and collect people's payments to stay without any intention of handing out a prize. I built up a foundation of wealth at the expense of other users. I'm not proud of it.
As the years passed, though, I realized there was a better way to make credits without compromising on my values in the process. I learned how to play the market. I made smart investments in rare furniture that rose in value over the years. I became even more wealthy that way than I did by scamming others.
Scamming is so alluring because it is the quickest way to gain wealth, but as scamming becomes more commonplace people become smarter to the ways of scammers. People are continually inventing new ways to make a buck, usually at the expense of someone else. It's a corrupt system and one that I now refuse to participate in.
Would I take any of it back? No. I think Habbo is actually a GREAT learning experience for teenagers. It's like a replication of the real world, but online. You toughen up quickly, and if you're smart you learn not to replicate the mistakes you made on Habbo in real life. So, while on the surface someone might think it is awful for teenagers to be exposed to a world like this, I quite think it's the opposite. This game is like a test run of real life - the problem is that some people never make their way back into the real world.
that's deep, really good read!
Well said!!
Well said!!
wow, you should make a video about this topic
Absolutely no one:
RUclips recommended: Hey I found this video about Habbo capitalists from 4 months ago
I'll be happy when this meme dies out
Absolutely no one:
@@powpowouchy5: I'll be happy when this meme dies out
@@helloofthebeach if no one is saying nothing isn't everybody saying something? That just makes no sense
@@powpowouchy5 it means anybody is saying everything
wow. Just wow. The thought of teens and children having been that opportunistic and exploitative is so disturbing.
A highly interesting video. Thank you.
this makes me grateful for finding out about retro hotels at a young age.
retro hotels give you credits by the hourly, are morally questionable, but for my 2 years of playing habbo, the REAL FUN for me started when i switched to retros. where i could actually build cool rooms, decorate my avatar and gain some friends without the constant suspicion of them scamming me. i have been playing on retros for about 6 years now, and this video fascinates me.
retro hotels? what game is that?
"That's a story for another time" is what youtubers always say but the "another time" never comes
_You'll learn it in High School_
High School :
That story has come! :^)
It’s here !!! :)
I started playing Habbo age 9 and was completely unaware of this. I just wanted to do the maze maps and chat up boys lmaoo
I played this in the darkest time of my teenage years thinking it was some sort of escape, now when I think about it it makes those times even darker
Such a great video and mini history of Habbo!