"INEOS Are Cost Cutting!" Andy Mitten Discusses Manchester United's Ownership & Recruitment!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @sj1773
    @sj1773 16 часов назад +333

    Man U is the microcosm of England itself: Austerity for the people while the people at the top reap all the rewards.

    • @devanman7920
      @devanman7920 15 часов назад +18

      modern capitalism

    • @Crumpy87
      @Crumpy87 14 часов назад

      @@devanman7920and the burden of illegal immigration and the threat of islamification

    • @TBO2488
      @TBO2488 14 часов назад +13

      Spot on

    • @jonathankennedy1715
      @jonathankennedy1715 14 часов назад +5

      Very true

    • @thomassmith9371
      @thomassmith9371 14 часов назад +7

      Nailed it

  • @vincentbrady318
    @vincentbrady318 16 часов назад +353

    According to the club the 250 staff cuts will save £10m a year while Rashford alone is on £17m a year. That’s 250 families affected by the loss of a job. Players wages are a big part of the problem.

    • @bojan1999
      @bojan1999 15 часов назад +24

      United can afford it. The glazers want to take out most money possible out of united.

    • @saffy4352
      @saffy4352 15 часов назад +11

      Every penny counts! Rashford will be gone soon!

    • @maximumpotential3796
      @maximumpotential3796 15 часов назад +16

      its typical corporate greed, take away the benefits and spend lavish for specific individuals.

    • @TBO2488
      @TBO2488 14 часов назад +1

      Exactly,

    • @turbo9321
      @turbo9321 14 часов назад +19

      ​@@saffy4352wow you still don't get it . Ineos glazers 2.0 want to make money , not win leagues .. hence cutting costs and buying cheaper players . Wake up FFS

  • @BIGcahones
    @BIGcahones 17 часов назад +163

    Its Mike Ashley the second! Love watching the drama unfold.

    • @Tricky181
      @Tricky181 17 часов назад +12

      Excellent comment!!

    • @alenton81
      @alenton81 16 часов назад +2

      Sir Jim won't be skulling a pint... shame 😂

    • @ATierney85
      @ATierney85 15 часов назад +8

      Manchester United fans should just spend their money to buy their club back 😉

    • @petershortland478
      @petershortland478 13 часов назад

      ​@ATierney85 that has been tried before. In 2010 apparently group called Red Knights a group of lawyers and bankers who tried getting the money together but nothing was heard from it since was disappeared chances are they ran out of money themselves

    • @dazzuluwilliams3150
      @dazzuluwilliams3150 7 часов назад

      Cynicism such a cowards way to live

  • @DonFury-pi3dy
    @DonFury-pi3dy 15 часов назад +132

    Another master stroke by Sir Jim. By cutting that £40k per year for veteran players he is saving the club just over £120 per day.........£120 per day are you kidding me. He has paid £18 million to sack a manger, hes paid £3 Million to recruit and sack Dan Ashworth, hes paid £3 Million to bring in the new manager.

    • @Cooki3Munster
      @Cooki3Munster 14 часов назад

      he is an idiot

    • @LudiCrust.
      @LudiCrust. 13 часов назад +12

      Genius businessmen are notorious for being incompetent club/franchise owners. Why it happens I’ll never know bc it doesn’t make sense no matter how you look at it. The NFL has had several and those guys didn’t just luck into their lot in life. They were/are legitimate geniuses. Jerry Jones is a prime example.

    • @zolimbika
      @zolimbika 8 часов назад +6

      Its even greater than £18m to sack the manager because there are technical managers that go with the sacked manager as well.

    • @yoshuaduyols
      @yoshuaduyols 4 часа назад +4

      @@LudiCrust. It's actually pretty easy to understand for most part they really did luck in to their money but because they have money they think it's because they are the smartest guys in every room and they think they know everything better.

    • @MrSpoonage
      @MrSpoonage 2 часа назад +2

      Is this including Ruben's £9.2m buy out clause?

  • @thewelshrocker101
    @thewelshrocker101 17 часов назад +178

    Don't know why anyone thought Jim would be successful since he bought his stake, considering the other clubs that he owns haven't exactly thrived under his watch.

    • @kevinwalton4538
      @kevinwalton4538 17 часов назад +25

      He’s on an ego trip isn’t he?

    • @thewelshrocker101
      @thewelshrocker101 16 часов назад +18

      @kevinwalton4538 you don't keep annoying the hard working low level staff that help keep the place running the best they can, when overpaid average players cannot perform on the pitch.

    • @adrianbennett3761
      @adrianbennett3761 16 часов назад +3

      Actually Nice and Lausanne are 6th and 3rd respectively now, but they’re partly owned by INEOS rather than SJR himself. But I do think SJR is making a pig’s ear of running the club

    • @MRAPEXPREDATOR1
      @MRAPEXPREDATOR1 16 часов назад

      Nobody did, the media wanted him as if Qatar would have bought the club they would have dominated again (eventually) the media won’t have anything to Wright.

    • @Stick1983z
      @Stick1983z 15 часов назад

      regurgitated comment.

  • @familyread7889
    @familyread7889 16 часов назад +117

    I remember gary Neville waxing lyrical about this man.

    • @ashleyburns6752
      @ashleyburns6752 6 часов назад +27

      He also supports Starmer, no friend of the English working class

    • @jeanlundi2141
      @jeanlundi2141 4 часа назад

      Neville is a spokesperson for the "establishment". That is clear to see for many years now.

    • @upon-fe2720
      @upon-fe2720 4 часа назад +6

      ​@@ashleyburns6752yeah but you probably think Farage is for "the man". Id have starmer over a conman

    • @BennyEggs...
      @BennyEggs... 3 часа назад +7

      @@upon-fe2720good point, at least starmer isn't a conman 😂🙄

    • @robertmansell3667
      @robertmansell3667 3 часа назад +6

      Gary Neville the Manchester Property Developer supports Labour so his Pal Andy Burnham looks favourably on his planning permissions.🤮

  • @NoxiousRob
    @NoxiousRob 17 часов назад +139

    Imagine stopping a £40k annual charitable donation, how mean can you get? There are players earning more than that in a day.

    • @mrjones1696
      @mrjones1696 16 часов назад +27

      It's worse than that when you know that charitable donations are tax deductable so it won't even save 40k a year.

    • @davidwebster5946
      @davidwebster5946 16 часов назад +5

      It's an ex players charity. The players union or the players themselves should pay for it

    • @NoxiousRob
      @NoxiousRob 15 часов назад +3

      @@mrjones1696 They don't pay corporation tax, they make losses year after year.

    • @Massondave
      @Massondave 15 часов назад +2

      Mean? The club is in a total mess, Radcliffe has just invested billions of his own money and another almost £100 million a few weeks ago towards club improvements. I think once they start balancing the books and see improvements on and off the field these donations will come back, until then I’m afraid charity starts at home!

    • @mrjones1696
      @mrjones1696 14 часов назад +5

      @@Massondave buying a stake and investing aren't the same, the fans will pay for the new stadium, new players and all of the apartments and commercial buildings surrounding it. If football "is just a business" then it should be treated like any other business where the owner has to invest from their own pocket rather than forcing it from the fans and I don't want to hear about FFP because value added investments aren't calculated the same as transfers etc, Ineos are finishing the job the Glazers started.

  • @donal5148
    @donal5148 14 часов назад +76

    Jim bailed out the Glazers and kept the debt at the club, that was the worst possible scenario for Manchester United!

    • @stevenlannister184
      @stevenlannister184 10 часов назад +3

      He didn't bail out the Glazers. They didn't have to go anywhere and didn't need a bailout

    • @lalrinpuia_tlau
      @lalrinpuia_tlau 9 часов назад

      ​@@stevenlannister184 Are you serious?? There's no way in hell the Galzers would sell their shares if the business was thriving. They needed the money badly. They exhausted all their options hence they put the club for sale.

    • @georgekapambwe5696
      @georgekapambwe5696 5 часов назад

      The Debt isn't part of SJRs partial buyout. That's the Glazers debt. Unless it is pit in writing that INEOS clearing that debt will be directly converted into controlling shares, it isn't on them.

    • @Rob-b-C.F.C
      @Rob-b-C.F.C 5 часов назад +3

      You fool Jimmy is partners with the glaziers😂😂😂😂 they both sponging the club

    • @jamieh4357
      @jamieh4357 3 часа назад +1

      £30m a year in interest payments in perpetuity from the debt being there

  • @andyc302
    @andyc302 15 часов назад +32

    I'm a fulham fan have been 43 years but I know loads of fans none of us are rich and live near the ground it's to expensive. The prices at the cottage are ridiculous so we don't want to pay these prices no fans of any club do its a working man's game being stole off us by the big wigs

    • @gmatthews7632
      @gmatthews7632 4 часа назад

      I’m a rich guy living nearby, I’ll pay £100 to sit in riverside to watch big games but don’t really support fulham

  • @samlee86421
    @samlee86421 15 часов назад +69

    Cancelling the Christmas party the pettiest thing I've ever heard.

    • @plopplop1984
      @plopplop1984 10 часов назад +3

      fergie done it before … jose done it …. if the team isn’t performing they don’t celebrate… so what

    • @Patrick4Gooner
      @Patrick4Gooner 9 часов назад

      ​@@plopplop1984 Jose and Fergie cancelled the players Christmas party and not for the Manchester United staff. Jim Radcliffe is penny wise pound foolish.

    • @angelotroseboom1186
      @angelotroseboom1186 6 часов назад +9

      ​@@plopplop1984for the players no problem cancelling their joy, but for the working class it is extremely petty behaviour to cancel it this year

    • @ShaquilleOatmeal730
      @ShaquilleOatmeal730 4 часа назад

      Ok fk off. Is it forever is it? We need cash for players. You muppets want it both ways. You can thank the glazers. Entitled knobs

    • @clonliffepanther
      @clonliffepanther 4 часа назад +1

      Apparently he was watching the Office Christmas Party, fancies Jennifer Aniston and likes her style

  • @JonWilde2105
    @JonWilde2105 13 часов назад +21

    I have to say Andy Mitten is the best source for Man United news. Genuine, level headed, no drama but honest too. I was struck by how down he was after the Wolves game.

  • @MRAPEXPREDATOR1
    @MRAPEXPREDATOR1 16 часов назад +65

    So basically in a nutshell, if “Jim Bob” wouldn’t have come along with his greedy vanity project. The Glazers would have had to sell in full, debt gone, new stadium, and people wouldn’t have lost there jobs. Never mind hey, they got £1.3billion and the club will never compete again. But Jim’s happy and he can tell his mates he’s owns a bit of Utd. Funny how Barca and Chelsea wouldn’t entertain him.

    • @WillJoy-cs1km
      @WillJoy-cs1km 12 часов назад +10

      No cos the Glazers were never going to look at a full sale. They wanted like £6/7/8b for the club and no one was paying that. They were always looking for minority investment

    • @MaximusMeridius-d8w
      @MaximusMeridius-d8w 10 часов назад +1

      Lol you know nothing

    • @creepingbrain
      @creepingbrain 3 часа назад +1

      The Glazers wanted to sell, they didn't need to sell. There's a difference. We didn't get a full sale because not one person on the planet was willing to pay $35 for the A shares. If the Glazers were desperate they would have dropped the price and we might have got a full sale.
      And if you're suggesting that if the fake sheik had got the club he wouldn't have sorted out the clubs' finances by doing things like making job cuts, and we would have just carried on hemorrhaging cash all over the place, then that's yet another reason to be thankful he didn't get the club.

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 3 часа назад +4

      @@creepingbrain you're thankful that Ratcliffe got the club? Are you addicted to failure?

  • @harrydestaffano565
    @harrydestaffano565 16 часов назад +53

    The comments from Andy Mitten are spot on!

    • @barrypower6822
      @barrypower6822 16 часов назад +7

      andy as always is very good

    • @richyclubsport5155
      @richyclubsport5155 4 часа назад +1

      From a man who promotes heat pumps in his videos, the most inefficient form of heating ever

    • @SqualidBear
      @SqualidBear Минуту назад

      Sounds like Andy sympathies with Jim as he gets the interviews. Why is he not asking Jim, you did a deal with the devil to keep the debt, if you are a lifelong fan why not step aside and get a full sale and clear the debt and reset this club

  • @jamesquirke3637
    @jamesquirke3637 16 часов назад +27

    it's ridiculous to start the cost cutting at the bottom the relative savings are basically inconsequential and it just makes the club look cheap and mean....start at the top and work down instead.

    • @paul-soundaffected
      @paul-soundaffected 3 часа назад

      That's the problem though, those at the very top rarely if ever take a reduction in their wage, the only time I've seen players take a wage reduction is relegation or to literally help save a club from going bankrupt.

    • @user-s1o3nr532
      @user-s1o3nr532 3 часа назад

      British management all over - no wonder nothing works.

    • @T90337
      @T90337 2 часа назад

      Unfortunately to release a player from their contract would cost the club more money. They can’t just reduce their wages as it’s signed as part of their contracts. Players are sellable assets, staff members are not.

    • @Jabraham9
      @Jabraham9 54 минуты назад

      They’re tryna balance the books, if they could sell players right now they would or the last few months awhen they realised united are not gonna be qualifying for even conference league so they’re about to lose a lot of money and they need to maintain with PSSR, so why tread the line when you can rebuild now you’ve seen enough and clean up the entire books and the squad, they’ve still gotta pay ten hag 15 million remaining contract, they over the years have bought so many players and been stuck with their contracts Sanchez, Lakaku, Sancho, Maguire, Donny Van Beek, Pogbas mishandling having him then buying him for 100 mill, Antony, can count Verane, Casemiro has borderline cause age and what’s left in the tank, yes united is a rich club but even paying Mourinho 24 mill to leave, ole 12 mill, ragnick 18 mill, van Gaal 10 mill, haven’t gone far in Europe or been in champions league like that club is used to for how much they spending and looks like they’re a few years away so better to start the rebuild now fanatically and a culture reset, united owe 1 billion in debt, they’re cutting all cost to make the club profitable look at man city even though they’ve cooked the books at the start or maybe more over years but they make money on sales of players but even though they have less debt they’re accruing it at a higher rate than united but it’s still 3 times less than what united has even down to recruitment think they’re taking Ragnick and Cristianos advice they even had a rat problem and leaking roof problem again the last few weeks so even down to the stadium then probably the facilities look at what happened with Barca when they mismanaged their debt

  • @Paul-m2s5i
    @Paul-m2s5i 16 часов назад +31

    Karma is real... Treat your loyal staff with having a Merry Christmas... Disgusting and the players know it too

  • @liamhemmings9039
    @liamhemmings9039 16 часов назад +64

    I saw Jim Ratcliffe in March, in the south of France. He was jogging. He had about 8 women jogging with him, forming a box around him. They were clearly his entourage, whether security or trainers. It was a really odd sight. Clearly that's where the money goes.

    • @JackPaul-vs3bq
      @JackPaul-vs3bq 16 часов назад +5

      😂😂

    • @DX_2_words_4_ya
      @DX_2_words_4_ya 16 часов назад +15

      At least he's got his priorities right lol

    • @theesorkinc44
      @theesorkinc44 15 часов назад

      If it were America he might have been chastised for having so many women around. CNN would call it female abuse.

    • @manchesterreds7853
      @manchesterreds7853 15 часов назад +17

      Must of been wearing lynx

    • @MikeD-r2c
      @MikeD-r2c 15 часов назад +6

      Money can by you love

  • @theesorkinc44
    @theesorkinc44 15 часов назад +14

    Biggest club in the world??? 40k per year cut from past players yet increased tickets bring more than 40k per game.

  • @Wethepeopless
    @Wethepeopless 14 часов назад +22

    Can you imagine if the Middle East came in and cut Christmas bonuses the English media would be going crazy

    • @93lornamae
      @93lornamae 9 часов назад +1

      Lol true but that natural human behavior.

    • @norm3769
      @norm3769 6 часов назад +1

      The English media would'nt report it​

  • @josephfee1033
    @josephfee1033 14 часов назад +22

    Andy Mitten - only United journalist that talks sense about the club

    • @ThePADRAIG9
      @ThePADRAIG9 13 часов назад

      Taking money from talksport for interviews is cringey though for any united fan

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад

      All the problems the club has is simply down to the millions the club loses each year because of its final position in the league come the end of the season. When we fix the problem on the field. That fixes all the problems off the field

    • @T90337
      @T90337 2 часа назад

      @@ianscully6652I have to agree with you here, we never heard such problems during the fergie era under the glazer ownership. But the club is oozing money, sir Jim is trying to plug the gaps.

  • @alenton81
    @alenton81 15 часов назад +17

    Can't see how it's not working... especially when you have Sir Dave Brailsford with a bike pump in one hand & a cocktail of 'stuff' in the other 😂

  • @cathaldowdall7467
    @cathaldowdall7467 14 часов назад +21

    What Rathcliff did to Stewards is disgrace. He's a Muppet.

  • @Retro_Cyber_0
    @Retro_Cyber_0 14 часов назад +18

    Andy was behind the INEOS bid rather than Qatar, even though he knew that would mean the Glazers staying and less money to spend, sorry Andy but most of us could see the way this would go, SJR is very rich by most standards, but he does not have the spare money that we need.

  • @robertboar9514
    @robertboar9514 16 часов назад +15

    Rory quoting Andy's comments from a previous interview with Jim Ratcliffe back at him, as those they were Rory's own original insights

    • @wd2918
      @wd2918 3 часа назад

      Rory once again showing how much of a dosser he is 😂 an actual moron

  • @esclad
    @esclad 13 часов назад +13

    IENOS haven't even bothered to fix the leaking roof(s) in 12 months. Lot's of cuts, sackings, penny-pinching, mistakes but nothing has changed for the better. Literally nothing. If Sir Jim didn't have the money to invest AFTER buying-in, then he should have just let the Qatari's buy the club. He's made things worse and is prolonging the agony.

    • @bangrojai
      @bangrojai 6 часов назад

      What your club need. USA born stock holding master ( Liverpool ). USA born insurance master ( Chelsea ). Heir of a dynasty ( Arsenal ). Arab Syeikh ( City ). Arab king ( Newcastle ). USA pension money management ( Inter Milan ). Or, fans owned club like Bayern, Madrid and Barca.

  • @kylehadfield1762
    @kylehadfield1762 17 часов назад +81

    Andy mitten united through and through but sounds a little bit like a ratcliffe sympathiser because he’s got a relationship with him sad.

    • @AaronMartin7193
      @AaronMartin7193 17 часов назад +4

      💯%

    • @bingbong4848
      @bingbong4848 16 часов назад +14

      He's actually allowed to have an opinion brother. Just because he seems to understand Ratcliffe's actions doesn't make him a suck up and doesn't make it sad.
      There will be many other fans who will agree that he has to do what needs to be done.
      It's a sad state of a club he's bought into and most fans won't understand the financial situation and what's required to fix it. Sometimes the head has to rule the heart.
      I'm not a fan but I wish man u to be stable and competitive again.

    • @Stick1983z
      @Stick1983z 15 часов назад +6

      I’d say it’s good to see he’s not stirring up the drama for the masses to feed off. 👍🏼

    • @stannats2637
      @stannats2637 14 часов назад +2

      INEOS the dream that turns into a nightmare

    • @nikeelmangaroo2844
      @nikeelmangaroo2844 13 часов назад +2

      💯 percent!... lol and he just keeps going on and on and.... lol if Rory didn't jump in with his point about how far removed Ratcliff is by ticket prices, wich is remarkable by the way because Rory is a Chelsea supporter yet he makes the 100 💯 percent sense and Mitten is a actual united supporter yet he trying 2 cover up Ratcliffs horrible decisions!!!😂

  • @FreeEagle-zh7js
    @FreeEagle-zh7js 14 часов назад +9

    When i used to say i don't trust ineos and that them and the the Glazer's are two wings of the same bird, no one was interested to listen to me.. Have you ever cogitated on the fact that ineos knew that they didn't have the financial strength to fix and maintain a club like United, yet they still bidded for us?? So, how do they really mean the club any good? But most of all, they are comfortable with the Glazer's still being at the club, even when being aware that the club is in ruins because of them?? Yes, they appointed Amorim, who seems to be an outstanding manager, but that was what the Glazer's used to do to befriend most of the fans, pretend to give them what they need, by making a big signing, in other words, to sweet-talk them.. Let me say this, all these issues were always there even with Fergie was around, it's just that Fergie was a genius, but as soon as he departed, the glory left also, which made the cracks visible, that was always there, which gave worsened over the years.. It was like sweeping rubbish under a beautiful carpet, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the rubbish is no longer there, which will eventually rot as the time goes by, and the Glazer's were and have always been that rubbish.. We would have been in a better position if we were under the ownership of Qatar, because most importantly, the Glazer's would no longer be around, the club is just unlucky..

  • @WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck
    @WhatInTheDeepestShadeOfFeck 7 часов назад +7

    Who would ever have thought that the head of a giant multinational conglomerate might not be a great guy and is only concerned with money...? 🤔

  • @noiseinmyblood
    @noiseinmyblood 11 часов назад +8

    It wasn't Ratcliffes money that bought his share. It's a loan he took based on his assets, and the people who issued that loan want to see him cut costs.

  • @johng9973
    @johng9973 7 часов назад +12

    Forcing rashford out???? The bloke came out and said he wanted to leave after being dropped.

  • @Dillon81
    @Dillon81 15 часов назад +8

    85 mill for Antony you absolute jokes🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @karlm641
    @karlm641 15 часов назад +14

    The hiring and sacking of Dan Ashworth in isolation is fundamentally more concerning than any inefficiencies with staff who earn minimum wage and a £40k charity donation. Not sure what Andy Mitten is on about (or been told to say) but the cost cutting Ratcliffe's people have done so far is a joke.

  • @trevorstorey9741
    @trevorstorey9741 6 часов назад +3

    Excellent interview with Andy Mitten. Well done to all

  • @AaronMartin7193
    @AaronMartin7193 16 часов назад +47

    And this guy is supposed to be a United fan? To me he just sounds more like a mouth peace for SJR imo

    • @Stick1983z
      @Stick1983z 15 часов назад +9

      he is pretty balanced tbh. A good representative for a fan base compared to the youtubers ffs

    • @ThePADRAIG9
      @ThePADRAIG9 13 часов назад +2

      Taking talksport money, no respected united fan should be doing this lads

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 13 часов назад +2

      @@ThePADRAIG9 "they said mean things about my daddy Ole" 😢😢😢😢

    • @NathanBradley-w1z
      @NathanBradley-w1z 8 часов назад +2

      Nah, he's just acknowledging what is real.

    • @ThePADRAIG9
      @ThePADRAIG9 3 часа назад

      @@OSEsean sorry what does that mean ?

  • @Kspat2
    @Kspat2 15 часов назад +9

    Don’t forget we gave an Ancient Eriksen 150k/week and Casemiro 300k+

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад

      They are next on the bullet list, with every other player in the club who earns close to 200k

  • @Wrighty62
    @Wrighty62 14 часов назад +5

    Best 14 minutes of rory I've ever seen!!

  • @jamescunningham1973
    @jamescunningham1973 15 часов назад +12

    I find all of this incredibly funny

  • @Michael-xy1wl
    @Michael-xy1wl 15 часов назад +23

    Just waiting for Sir Jim to rename the stadium INEOS Arena and cerment his legacy as the BTEC Mike Ashley 🤣🤣🤣

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад +2

      That’s what is next from him. Guaranteed 👍

    • @upon-fe2720
      @upon-fe2720 4 часа назад

      Cement...

  • @caynehampton1878
    @caynehampton1878 12 часов назад +4

    Never thought that we would have our own Mike Ashley at Man United. He should focus on cutting wages of the players and selling the deadwood.

  • @Rivelino824
    @Rivelino824 13 часов назад +7

    Crazy still to this day how Manchester United can be in debt. Also dont blame people like Rashford, blame the people who signed a bang average player on them wages.

    • @NavaneethMapiniyethVilangeri
      @NavaneethMapiniyethVilangeri 7 часов назад

      hype and PR, the average player in other teams becomes world class fluke at manutd
      everyone is average and still the hype they get

    • @mesicek7
      @mesicek7 6 часов назад

      How can you not blame the player? It's basically your job to give it your all every game especially when you're considered one of the best players in the team.

  • @Mike-gn4un
    @Mike-gn4un 9 часов назад +3

    Andy Mitten always delivers insightful, well articulated commentary.
    He’s levels above these two presenters, especially guy right of screen, embarrassing biting his nails, fidgeting while Andy is making salient points.
    Lack of professional courtesy to his interviewee

  • @erichawthorne-c9v
    @erichawthorne-c9v 16 часов назад +15

    They always say cuts are needed Radcliffe has 22Bill ffs

    • @kengordon134
      @kengordon134 16 часов назад

      Ffp

    • @JWHarris........
      @JWHarris........ 16 часов назад +3

      You don't get rich by giving it away

    • @barrypower6822
      @barrypower6822 16 часов назад

      man utd has to be able live within its means ie income . the ownner has to make cuts the bigs cuts will come in the summer with players being sold.

    • @peterwatt5688
      @peterwatt5688 15 часов назад +1

      I assuming talking to you is like talking to brick wall ,did you even listen to the clip

    • @erichawthorne-c9v
      @erichawthorne-c9v 4 часа назад

      @@peterwatt5688 Yes I did , Mitten is a sycophant

  • @sallahudinmehuddin8046
    @sallahudinmehuddin8046 16 часов назад +14

    Makes no sense to loan Rashford out and pay a big chunk of his wages in the name of cost cutting. He's not being forced out, it's his attitude.

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад

      If he does well when on loan. His transfer fee might be higher in the summer

  • @seanknapton7449
    @seanknapton7449 15 часов назад +6

    Imagine if Bournemouth, Brentford and Brighton finished above Man City,Man Utd and Rottenham,that would make my day 😂

  • @daviddenham1511
    @daviddenham1511 Час назад +2

    Here’s an idea….if Rashford is such a compassionate, caring human, why doesn’t he donate a weeks wages to all the kids charities he’s so fond of??……….

    • @adeyinkabenjamin9537
      @adeyinkabenjamin9537 39 минут назад

      He does....but that's not the point eh? You guys just want him to be the villain so now you're making all sorts of stories. Just 2 years ago Marcus was our shining light...led is to a trophy and was our highest goal scorer in 8 years and the team finished 3rd. Now because the team is struggling rashford has been chosen as the scapegoat for all of United's problems

  • @scottlouis4076
    @scottlouis4076 16 часов назад +11

    Perspective. A millionin seconds is 12 days. A billion is 32 years. Buddy has 22billion.
    Disgusting ....

  • @sufamidan1006
    @sufamidan1006 Час назад +2

    What Ratcliffe is doing isn’t a surprise to me. I called it to perfection. Absolutely disastrous ownership.

  • @borrowedtune
    @borrowedtune 14 часов назад +6

    Spot on from Andy, as always. Too many people live in fantasy land. It’s a business, not a charity. Cuts are necessary. The Glazers employed a bloated workforce, and there was a lot of people who simply didn’t need to be there. INEOS are one of the biggest and most successful companies in the world - they know what they’re doing. The sensible fans among us are well aware it was always going to get worse before it gets better.

    • @mikedarcy8314
      @mikedarcy8314 11 часов назад

      God help you , the bosses are so good, letting all of the small people like you admire them while they rob you

    • @borrowedtune
      @borrowedtune 10 часов назад

      @ I’m sure that made sense in your head.

    • @kevinbarker7915
      @kevinbarker7915 10 часов назад +1

      When was the last time INEOS really challenged for a cycling major tour? Not as great a sporting force as they like to think.

    • @CHIPorange
      @CHIPorange 5 часов назад

      Take your nose out their backsides mate

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 3 часа назад

      you've been duped, the glazers are maximizing profit while neglecting on-field performance, while using ineos as a scapegoat. how long are you guys going to accept your club being milked and run into the ground?

  • @AmadDread
    @AmadDread 7 часов назад +4

    Casemiro, Rashford and Shaw... That's millions.

  • @thejapanexperience6317
    @thejapanexperience6317 7 часов назад +8

    Andy, man of the people. Official journalist of Manchester United. Twice mocks the fans for wanting good things, not once mocks Ratcliff for pumping up tickets mid way in the season with a shitty excuse or for giving a failing manager a two year extension saying current manager isn't for them before sacking manager and getting the current one. Chasing Ashworth then sacking him. How many millions was all of that? But don't worry fellas, Andy is here to explain the 40k savings are the hard decisions that need to be made. They must all be meditating under the old trafford waterfall to remain so calm.

  • @lesmarsden2058
    @lesmarsden2058 14 часов назад +5

    No point saving pennies whilst squandering many millions!
    Simply appalling management!

  • @SDCLFC1
    @SDCLFC1 11 часов назад +5

    For everyone criticising Liverpool for not having secured Trent, Virgil and Mo, the state of Utd is why. It's not that I think Salah shouldn't be offered a 3-year deal with a saly among the very top in the league, and Virgil and Trent should similarly get competitive, lucrative deals. But it's about a process to make sure the deal is right to avoid situations that Utd is in. The wrong deal can cripple a club. I can't believe Rashford was offered the deals he was. But Fernandes too. He might be your best player but there is no one else who would pay him the money Utd are. Those contracts were offered as knee-jerk reactions to believing they desperately needed these guys. If they had held their nerve and let them leave the club would be in a much better position. Virgil and Salah will stay - and I hope Trent does. But the offer needs to be right for everyone and that means following processes that limit the risks of getting it wron.

    • @bareknuckles2u
      @bareknuckles2u 6 часов назад +1

      Good comment

    • @JC10..
      @JC10.. 4 часа назад

      The contracts were offered to inflate the book price of players in order to leverage more debt against "Valuable" assist of the club. The Glazers have single handedly destroyed Man United.

    • @SeaAyDee
      @SeaAyDee 4 часа назад

      Agreed, we saw it with Rashford and Ozil at Arsenal, they play well when they are negotiating the contract, they sign the contract on huge wages then the form drops off. Liverpool stood firm on Gini and he left for the money and his form dropped off massively. Salah and VVD should get two years max, but I think Trent will leave.

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 2 часа назад

      yeah, over the years ive come to trust fsg. so many others clubs have run into so many problems clearly caused by poor decisions behind the scenes and we just never have that problem at liverpool.

  • @pppscooby
    @pppscooby 48 минут назад +1

    SJR knew the situation before he bought the club, as a life long man utd fan he shouldn’t have bought the club knowing he couldn’t afford to run it properly, as a life long utd fan he should let the better bid succeed.

  • @BSR9797
    @BSR9797 16 часов назад +7

    Robbing the poor to give to the rich… I think Radcliffe got the legend back to front. So taking £40k per annum away from the needy is essential to the club finances but give a new £325k per week contract to a below average employee who is so bad he is now suspended from work makes total economic sense. To think I once had an interview to join one of his companies (which abruptly ended when I was offered half the salary I was on). Disgraceful.

    • @HBS444
      @HBS444 15 часов назад

      he inherited the stupid contracts everyone is on whats he meant to do rip them up and get sued? not defending him but all these stupidly massive contracts pre date his arrival.

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 13 часов назад

      @@HBS444 He gave 16 year old Obi Martin a £30k p/w contract....

  • @AlienTenno
    @AlienTenno 16 часов назад +13

    INEOS Out , Qatar In

    • @upon-fe2720
      @upon-fe2720 4 часа назад +1

      Yeah... Id rather not have murderous dictators running any club in football never mind our own.

  • @bingbong4848
    @bingbong4848 16 часов назад +10

    Cundy, they may save 100k a week, but his replacement will cost at least £200k a week

    • @barrypower6822
      @barrypower6822 16 часов назад +3

      exactly , unless they have a ready made replacement in the youth teams

    • @bingbong4848
      @bingbong4848 15 часов назад +1

      @barrypower6822 Yeah. Doubt it though...if they had someone we would probably already be seeing him, given the current desperate situation

    • @davesmith4804
      @davesmith4804 14 часов назад

      @bingbong4848 all true that , haha

    • @barrypower6822
      @barrypower6822 11 часов назад

      @@bingbong4848 theres a few but too young at this stage

  • @Selambehere
    @Selambehere 15 часов назад +2

    Andy Mitten 👏👏👏
    Although the hosts were uncomfortabel with your nuanced views on INEOS, i as a Fan am delighted to hear It.
    Thank you for refusing to perform outrage. Thank you for staying true to your journalistic duty and informing the people on what is going on and why.

  • @beefsuprem0241
    @beefsuprem0241 16 часов назад +20

    Remember when Ratcliffe road into town with all this guff about being a local lad and some pseudo science.
    All these lot at talksport etc lapped it up.
    Within weeks he was shaking a begging a bowl at the taxpayer for a new stadium the Glazers should have built.
    He's there to make money, nothing more.

    • @blah350
      @blah350 15 часов назад +1

      Abd the irony is
      They had someone who was willing to wipe all the debts and start with a clean slate

    • @bangrojai
      @bangrojai 7 часов назад

      Get some Arab. Offer 6 b. 4b should be given to Ineos, Sir rat, glazer for their retirement from football forever. 2 b to buy new player and new stadion.

    • @MattMajcan
      @MattMajcan 2 часа назад

      everyone from the owners to the players, the coaching staff, literally everyone at United is just there for the money, and fame,, and thats why they're so bad. like jurgen klopp famously remarked manchester united is more like disneyworld than a football club

  • @johnhealy6248
    @johnhealy6248 15 часов назад +4

    Andy Mitten always talks sense.

    • @Motlier
      @Motlier 15 часов назад +1

      He is lying, the club isn't loosing money, because that would break with ffp.
      The owners of the club are loosing money because of the huge loan they took to buy the club.
      So it's INEOS and the Glaziers not willing to cover their own company's losses, instead they let Man Utd's profits cover it, and they want higher profits from Man Utd.

  • @rLxJake
    @rLxJake 16 часов назад +5

    I’m an American that flies in and buys tickets and buys the kit every year regardless of the team performance. I love my club but im starting to feel like part of the problem.

    • @RgjDj1878
      @RgjDj1878 14 часов назад +1

      You are not the problem my friend. You’re a symptom. Football is for the working class. This is culturally significant in this country. The premier league are losing fans to lower leagues now. Player wages and agents are the root cause of the problem and the commercialisation required to remain competitive.

    • @Mytoydiecastgarage
      @Mytoydiecastgarage 9 часов назад

      People like u are the problem……who support the club and buy merch even when the club is a shitshow of a circus and the owner is increasing ticket prices and penny pinching. See they know people like you will pay and buy stuff so they dont care. When people like you stop buying and paying for tickets then only they will realise

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад

      Don’t forget the price of transfer fees nowadays for footballers and them fees are still rising each transfer window

  • @sanctuz
    @sanctuz 13 часов назад +2

    Rory talking about "an interview" that Andy did himself is peak Rory "journalism"

  • @donal5148
    @donal5148 14 часов назад +5

    Is Jim Ratcliffe just Mike Ashley in disguise?

  • @t1ma_21
    @t1ma_21 10 часов назад +2

    £40k cut deals £40m reputation damage

  • @UtdGLORYtv
    @UtdGLORYtv 15 часов назад +6

    What nobody has ever explained is why we pay the wages we pay. Why is Rashford on 300k, why is shaw on 200k. Why do we keep dishing out massive wages on players…

    • @ab_5802
      @ab_5802 15 часов назад +3

      Purple patches which the fans eat up

    • @tt99football56
      @tt99football56 15 часов назад

      Sadly because it's the going rate at the likes of Man City, Liverpool & Real Madrid etc. So these players might they should be earning that, yet they don't deserve it.

    • @DK-iy1wf
      @DK-iy1wf 4 часа назад

      Yeah but the likes of Liverpool are not a average team we are so no player at this club should not be more than a £150k

  • @georgevukelic996
    @georgevukelic996 48 минут назад +1

    We all wanted full sale so do one

  • @carlosnunes3701
    @carlosnunes3701 15 часов назад +5

    They sack the plumber to help pay the 350K a week to Rasford, that stay at stay-at-home wasting his time gaming

  • @scottwithe3946
    @scottwithe3946 33 минуты назад +1

    Its quite simple....stop paying players 300 grand a week.
    United back in the day broke their pay ceiling to keep Roy keane, and the floodgates for exorbitant players wages was born that day.

  • @purehyperbole5727
    @purehyperbole5727 17 часов назад +8

    The mistake is thinking that any owner is concerned about the fans. They all want to act like Radcliffe. They are business people. The emotion involved is the fault of the fans.

    • @barrypower6822
      @barrypower6822 16 часов назад +1

      well football is a business now a days .

    • @NathanBradley-w1z
      @NathanBradley-w1z 8 часов назад

      ​@barrypower6822 Exactly. Its not a football club. It's a business owned by investors. What do investors want? A return on their investment.

  • @folanstephen
    @folanstephen 3 часа назад +2

    This is way too nuanced and thoughtful for a Talksport discussion.

  • @petersmith2522
    @petersmith2522 16 часов назад +7

    Why is ffp not onto them then if its losing money

    • @alenton81
      @alenton81 16 часов назад +2

      Because it's Man Utd

    • @EoinFe
      @EoinFe 15 часов назад +1

      Don't think they are losing money, they are just taking to much out of the club and won't stop 😂

    • @robangullia
      @robangullia 14 часов назад +2

      PSR is very much on the radar hence why these penny pinching measures are being made everywhere possible.

  • @gwheregwhizz
    @gwheregwhizz 7 часов назад +2

    The new sustainability rules based on percentage of turnover mean the days of concessions are over, huge increases in the cost of tickets and merchandise coming soon everywhere to maximise turnover. If you think it's a rip off now, you ain't seen nothing yet.

  • @mann953
    @mann953 17 часов назад +4

    Do you mean a businessman is running the football club like a business? What else did you think? Did you really believe his promises about creating jobs?

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification 13 часов назад +2

    "The Glazers don't milk the club for enough cash" said Sir Jim after his purchase.

  • @windupmerchant1679
    @windupmerchant1679 15 часов назад +4

    Regardless of the topic, Rory Jennings is a waste of space.

  • @them8k396
    @them8k396 Час назад +1

    Remember, Glazers still pocketing

  • @marshallm7339
    @marshallm7339 15 часов назад +5

    This guy sounds like an ineos spokesman....😂

    • @willie549
      @willie549 5 часов назад

      You need to learn to understand what you are listening to...

    • @marshallm7339
      @marshallm7339 25 минут назад

      @willie549 he wilfully brushes over aspects of their current financial situation to frame Ineos as the victims that have no other choice... When actually they have been directly complicit to many wasteful decisions since taking over.

  • @thesoultwins72
    @thesoultwins72 14 часов назад +1

    The best leaders, always ''Lead by Example''. What really upsets the actual 'workers', is when they have to make sacrifices for poor management - yet the 'management' are not affected.

  • @mrdynamitehee
    @mrdynamitehee 16 часов назад +7

    Mitten trying to make excuses for Radcliffe is sad. If cuts had to be made why is it only the ordinary people and those relying on charitable contributions bearing the brunt? Why didn’t Radcliffe pay Ten Hag’s contract, Dan Ashworth’s contract, and Sporting’s compensation out of his own money since he was the idiot who messed those whole situations up himself.
    Those wasted millions alone would have kept people in their jobs. Why do charities receiving a measly £40k a year have to suffer for his mismanagement? Really nasty little man. No wonder he wanted us all to vote Brexit.

  • @markreynolds8151
    @markreynolds8151 10 часов назад +1

    I love Andy's perspective, he's thorough in his analysis and gives versions from both sides of the coin which the typical biased media don't do these days

  • @robertstraw9881
    @robertstraw9881 15 часов назад +4

    Jim Twatcliffe.

  • @DB_________
    @DB_________ 5 часов назад +2

    I truly believe the PL bubble is close to bursting. Man Utd are patient zero.
    Player salaries are the root cause of these clubs struggling financially now that PSR is kicking in

  • @robertbslee4209
    @robertbslee4209 15 часов назад +3

    Radcliffe bought shares from Glazers and paid Glazers = 0% went to the club
    Radcliffe investment is a loan to the club, ManU have to pay commercial interest to Radcliffe = the same as Glazers

  • @100caylim
    @100caylim Час назад +2

    Sir Jim the rat was always going be Glazers 2.0. Glazers were too greedy to sell to the Saudi which Utd would of been better off by now.

  • @mufccharliemufcglazersout
    @mufccharliemufcglazersout 14 часов назад +4

    Ineos are killing United Slowly like the French 🇫🇷 club they own

  • @MicDubTV
    @MicDubTV 12 часов назад +1

    Andy is pure class. THE person to go to for true United insight if you’re talking about journalists. Next would be Laurie Whitwell & Carl Anka. Really trust Ornstein as well.

  • @alexbelotti1603
    @alexbelotti1603 17 часов назад +16

    Still the glazers fault?

    • @jordanwhittaker6720
      @jordanwhittaker6720 17 часов назад +6

      Yes 😂 cleaning up their mess

    • @sam.horgan35horgan33
      @sam.horgan35horgan33 16 часов назад +1

      They sold a chunk of their business to another business that operates in the same way
      .now it's Chelsea Jim's responsibility.
      Cutting costs is understandable in a failing business. The leaks haven't been fixed because the 13k a year tea lady is still there.
      Radcliffe has done nothing,the 1.8 billion investment means nothing to the fans. Fixing the stadium so they have a decent place to go and watch there team should be the priority. That team will still be playing at old Trafford in 5 years...

    • @barbarohelm9697
      @barbarohelm9697 15 часов назад +1

      Of course it is , you moron

    • @craiggeessports1677
      @craiggeessports1677 15 часов назад +1

      Too right they have only given you 2 billion to spend 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 have a word with yourself .

    • @robangullia
      @robangullia 14 часов назад

      The Glazers have given 2bn to spend? They've never invested a single penny into the club be that recruitment or infrastructure. ​@craiggeessports1677

  • @engespress
    @engespress 6 часов назад +2

    Andy Mitten is absolutely right. A club facing huge debt cannot give money to charity. Charity begins at home. The players' wages are a fixed expense - nothing can be done about it. Blame the people who decided to give them those wages; not the fixers who came in later. Everything should be blamed on the previous regime; not the new part-time owners. They have to clean up the mess and it's going to be painful for everyone.

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 3 часа назад +1

      @@engespress correct, that £40k can cover 17 year old academy player Obi-Martin's wages for 10 days. Man Utd saved YAAAY!!!

    • @engespress
      @engespress 3 часа назад

      ​@@OSEsean What do you suggest then? Taking out more loans to cover the interest payment on the outstanding amount? If a business is in red - what, billion dollars of debt, yes you do go after charity payments and any other non-core business, non-contractual payments first. Business 101. A business that is in billions dollars worth of debt cannot afford to pay money to charities. It's not even their OWN money they are giving to the charities; it's BORROWED money. It doesn't matter what happened before; the buck stops with Ratcliffe, who has been called in to manage the club, and he is doing the job. If he fails to control the finances of the club, the club ain't going to exist anymore, right? No charities getting money, no matches for fans to watch, no nothing - just bankruptcy. Closed doors. Yes, it would be nice to stop paying the indecent wages of players, but as I said, those players are on contract, and you can't renege on them legally. Going forward, they have to do something about signing those sorts of bloated contracts, but Ratcliffe came in when those contracts were already signed, and besides, the PL is a money business. The more money you have the more likely you will perform better. So he can't be offering low contracts to good players in the future. This is what I said - these are fixed unavoidable costs of doing business. Anything outside of that core business needs to be axed.
      Players can start their own charities with the tens of millions they've earned. Rashford can start the charity for ex-players and give a stipend to the former players who have become indigent if he wants. He's not doing much at the moment. He might as well.
      It's because he and similar players were given enormous contracts they didn't deserve - not their fault by the way; it's the Glazers' fault - the club is in deep serious financial trouble. When you invest in a business - one in enormous debt - and are tasked to manage the finances, the first thing you try and do is eliminate debt. You do that by trimming in many areas - it may be 40,000 pounds only in one area - which is a lot of money actually to someone like me - would pay someone's wages for a year - you do so but you do it here and there, and all the trimmings accumulated will account for a sizable chunk of money in the end. It also creates a culture where people don't take the company for granted - no freebies, no perks, and if they want something eg a party, they have to pay for it themselves.
      The people who are complaining must have a lot of money themselves and can throw about 40,000 pounds. The media are out of touch. These are paid prostitutes who are rewarded for virtue-signalling. You. can expect them to attack Ratcliffe about this. He's showing he's not into empty feel-good virtue-signalling, and to be fair, no one owes anyone a living. Not to the ex-Man Utd players or anyone else.
      Unless these players were injured severely while playing at MU and can't work and aren't covered by workers' insurance, there is no compelling moral reason to run this charity.
      Besides, the country is a welfare state - you lose your job for whatever reason and can't live properly - go seek government aid. That's what the taxpayers pay money for.
      By the way, can you tell me what charities these media giants run?

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 3 часа назад

      @engespress nope, INEOS gave that academy player £30k per week 👍🏻
      Don't be stupid, United will never go under, when Ratcliffe fucks it up someone will be there to buy it
      You Ratcliffe lovers got what you wanted, now enjoy another 20 years without a league title

    • @engespress
      @engespress 2 часа назад

      ​@@OSEsean You can always start your own ex-MUFC players charity if you're so upset about this. You can start passing the hat around to the media people in this video first since you and they are so outraged and appalled by this.

    • @OSEsean
      @OSEsean 2 часа назад

      @@engespress enjoy our continued failure then buddy, but at least we're not owned by Arabs right?

  • @keithramsay3340
    @keithramsay3340 16 часов назад +3

    hes a glued on glazer

  • @ricardobobadilla4885
    @ricardobobadilla4885 14 часов назад +2

    This looks like a PR for Ineos more than anything else.

  • @The_Rizz_Lord_
    @The_Rizz_Lord_ 14 часов назад +4

    Is anyone else sick and tired of the annoying loudmouth jason cundy ??? I feel sick, gives me a earache, headache, and i have to switch off.
    His arrogance and right to be annoying, without a care in the world for anyone else or the audience, should be a sackable offense.
    He just does not care. And doesnt seem too happy with his job either
    Behave.

    • @squarewindow
      @squarewindow 5 часов назад

      Yeah, he's always been an annoying gobbo but he's gone into hyperdrive lately. Gives me brain cancer.

  • @pauldark3044
    @pauldark3044 13 часов назад +2

    Please have Andy Mitten on every time you talk about Utd! He really knows what he is talking about

  • @BrandynGarland-y8h
    @BrandynGarland-y8h 16 часов назад +6

    These are the same fans we’re mourning about Qataris taking over oh no we don’t want Qataris we want British owner no foreigners blah blah hope your happy now you got your self a British owner

  • @neilmoore5387
    @neilmoore5387 13 часов назад +1

    Thank goodness it’s Andy on here representing United and not Goldbridge.

  • @eamonnbarrett7995
    @eamonnbarrett7995 12 часов назад +3

    SirJimGlazer is a business man doesn't care about the club, big money

  • @pppscooby
    @pppscooby 42 минуты назад +1

    If andy mitten knew rashford was a problem because past managers have told him, why has he waited til now to say anything, he’s just jumping on the bandwagon, lazy journalism

  • @Saved4Eternity1234
    @Saved4Eternity1234 13 часов назад +3

    There was an offer on the table for a full sale of the club, which you blocked Sir Jim, to get into bed with the glazers.
    If you didn’t have the money, you shouldn’t have come near the club 🔰

  • @scottyh1238
    @scottyh1238 9 часов назад +1

    "Rashford at his prime was touted as a 100m pound player"....
    1. Has Rashford ever had a prime?
    2. No club in his entire career has ever looked to drop 100m on Rashford.

  • @tombattisti8682
    @tombattisti8682 16 часов назад +3

    Billionaire ownership is nothing but trouble. Period!

  • @carlranger8060
    @carlranger8060 17 часов назад +7

    Tbh, he should never have bought his stake. If he was a true United fan as he says, he would've gotten out of the way to allow the Qatar is to buy the club. In short he isn't rich enough for a club as big as Manchester United.

    • @robw4057
      @robw4057 16 часов назад

      Lpool fan here... I completely agree. Qatar would have put you back on the map.

    • @LukeJohnson-tw5bo
      @LukeJohnson-tw5bo 16 часов назад +2

      Ban state owned clubs!!!!!!

    • @FoggyPigeon
      @FoggyPigeon 16 часов назад

      Don't United fans and other club fans always take the piss out of City for being an 'oil money club'? It's often claimed that none of their achievements really count due to them being owned by super rich owners. Wouldn't United then just be hypocrites if they were owned by the Qatar consortium?

  • @joekavanagh7171
    @joekavanagh7171 56 минут назад +1

    United are the Titanic of football. Sunk without trace. It's the fans' fault for tolerating it.

  • @jonathankennedy1715
    @jonathankennedy1715 14 часов назад +6

    How much they paid for Amorim, to release Ten Hagg, van Nistlerooy and Dan Ashworth. Unbelievable waste of money 🤮.

    • @ianscully6652
      @ianscully6652 7 часов назад

      The way things are going. They will be paying off Amorim after they release him because he is doing no better than ten Hag