Orient Mako 3 - RN-AA0001B (Kamasu? lol) - Review, Measurements, Lume
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- Опубликовано: 30 ноя 2024
- We also compare it to the Ray 2, and Mako Usa 2!
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That stupid eyelash, though! I couldn't see it in the camera monitor! Hey guys, i'm back after a super busy trip to Oregon/Washington and then coming back home to even more busy! Things should be slowing down a bit now so I'll be able to do the hoards of videos I have planned! How has your December been going? Oh, and yes, I realize the USA 2 has a 20 minute dive timer :p. I flubbed on that statement. Dangit!
Welcome back man grate to see a new vid. Keep up the grate work🙏. And my bad did not know this was private message but hey would you ever do a review of the Casio OCEANUS? I just got one its amazing poor mans Grand Seiko
@@deaversmith2593 Thanks, man! I would love to do an Oceanus. They are a bit too spendy for me right now, though!
Hello minitwatch do you recommend me buying this watch from Ebay? And can you please tell me the name of the seller on Ebay who you bought it from? Thanks
At least it wasn't a pube.
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That's the sapphire crystal model. You wouldn't even get sapphire from Seiko watches in the same price range. How's that "overpriced"?
Seiko makes the divers with mineral glass, because mineral glass is more durable under pressure.
AfgelikteBoterham I believe their rational for using mineral glass is that it is less likely to smash if your SKX hits a rock underwater. The cynic in me says that it’s just penny-pinching.
@@simonbailey2151 no, they use it because otherwise it will break much more easlier. Saphire doesnt scratch that easy, but breaks more easy than mineral glass. Thats why they use it. Saphire glass is much more vulnerable to breaking compared to mineral glass. Its not a money thing. Seiko is everything but not a penny pincher. Maybe if you will look it up on Google why its better to use mineral glass underwater than saphire glass, you will understand.
AfgelikteBoterham I think we're saying the same thing, in slightly different ways. Neither sapphire nor Hardlex are going to crack 'under pressure', as you wrote, at least not under the kind of pressures that normal divers will encounter. It is recognised however that Sapphlex, Hardlex (and acrylic, for that matter) crystals, although less scratch-resistant than Sapphire, are less likely to shatter upon a hard direct impact - rock or coral underwater, for example, or getting a bang direct to the face of the watch on dry land.
I have diver watches with sapphire, Hardlex and acrylic crystals, and enjoy them all.
Cheers!
@@simonbailey2151 Cheers!
This is my 1st automatic watch. 41mm, winding/hacking movement and a sapphire crystal.. Got a good deal as well..
Enjoy!
I love that "Check the Lume" tune.
I'm glad :)
Me too but I found it a little long
@@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 i found that little bit to short lol
akapen sensei it's the elder scrolls morrowind theme
It's really something the way Orient always manages to lineup their dials and hour markers, it's like they actually care about QC. Unlike you know who
Ahem-citezen ahem ahem
"Check the lume" definitely my favorite part haha!! That's great.
😂
8:27 Oohhhh Uncle Jimmy… 😳😏😂💕
I have the Blue Ray II and I added a double dome sapphire with blue AR coating from Crystal Times. Thanks Curt for your instructional encouragement on your channel.
Ehhhh, no problemo, J Mac! Glad to have helped! I'll bet your Ray II is a sweet one! Cheers!
I'm on vacation in Mexico, but when I get home I'll have a single dome sapphire and new Submariner-style bezel from Harold at Yobokies waiting on me. Oh, and a shiny ceramic insert from DLW. Will they fit my red dialed Mako/Ray/Whatever It's Called?? After watching the video I'm doubting they will. I am surprised, but I honestly don't miss the solid end links from the white dialed Mako USA II that I sold. Do dig the polished clasp vs. the bead blasted. Just wish it tapered a bit on my 6 3/4" wristicle.
Orient USA Mako II for the win!! The smaller clasp, solid end links, drilled lugs, better lume for the win!
TheFlyrodder68 Mako USA II checks all of the boxes👍
I love my USA II :)
The only difference between this watch and my mako USA ii is the minute hand is a bit thinner. But that's my guess.
Sapphire?
I was torn between the USA ii and the kamasu. Ended up with the kamasu because they bezel is better. The bezel is also thinner, so it makes the watch face larger. I also like that the minute and second hands stretch all the way to the markers. All are good watches. Don't think you could go wrong with any of them.
I got mine 6 days after this video was released. Still working great and gets heavy usage
Nicely done! Entertaining as always. I happened to contact Orient USA and asked about these (made a short video about it too). The short version is that these are coming to the US market in the next few months, but they will not be the mako or ray iii. Although it may be hard to get rid of that name as so many are using it. So have to wait and see what they try calling them. Cheers!
It will definitely be interesting to see what they call it! Thanks, man!
@@minitwatch Love the strap options you showed in the newer video. If your curious what the red dial version looks like, I just uploaded a review of it.
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I received the red dialed version last week! Bought it on Ebay from Russia.
Love the new Mako 3 but I prefer the look of the new Ray 3 as it's a cleaner look, it's just a shame and also strange that the new Mako 3 does have sapphire crystal whilst the new Ray 3 doesn't.
Great video as always. Keep up the good work. Have a great Christmas and new year everyone!
Now, the "Ray 3" would be the new 42mm Black Bay-esque versions or have I missed something? I appreciate it and back atcha!
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That's a beautiful looking orient, I always like the first gen blue mako, it was an outstanding value of a watch. This is even better with sapphire and all for around $200. I would buy this first instead of the $500 sub homages out there.
Received my Kamasu a couple days ago and I'm really impressed with the quality! I went with the model with the blue face and the rubber strap and it looks great. Pictures and video really don't do that blue justice. I sense that this will be the first of many Orient watches.
SeekerOfTruth that’s good to hear. I just ordered the blue dial/bezel model myself, and in pictures and videos, it looks very dark and gloomy compared to the ray 2 in this video. How would you describe the blue on it? Shiny and robust? Or subtle and classy?
are u still using the kamasu?
Got mine with blue mother of pearl dial limited edition. Beautiful dial.
From where?? I need to see this!
I just got one of these. Had it about a week. It is within 3secs since I got it! Very worth the price I paid, $209 on Amazon.
Omg a new video! Let me go do a few rips then watch! Been missing you man!
Nice! I hoped you enjoyed!
Just watched. Great job as always. Really like looking at orients but have not bought one yet. Think I'm going to save up and order a Japanese domestic market seiko next. Oh---check the lume is gonna win a Grammy this year no doubt! Loved it! Murica lol!
This is a very good watch, does it job properly. All I need is a watch that runs perfectly and this serves me well.
Great review, Curt.
I don't see enough difference with the new watch to justify a significant price increase over the Ray. I have the USA, and replaced the bezel and the aluminum insert with a lumed bezel because the aluminum scratched so badly. It is now one of the best looking watches in my collection. I highly recommend the USA II.
Steve Townsend USA II All The Way!
I agree. I love my USA II. It's just more worth it.
Dude I'm wearing mine now!! I paid $195 from massdrop :) I love it.
Nice! Good price too! Enjoy!
"I thinks I'd rather get..one of them" 🤣
You got some really serious issues. Subscribed
Not a huge fan of Orient but I'm a huge fan of your videos. You have a true skill and mastery when it comes to the visual/audio world. The last segments of your videos are the best! I also like your videos on strap changes. Keep up the great work!
Why not a fan of orient? You don't like fantastic value?
The Ray II is the best of the bunch but only after upgrading the stock bracelet with a Strapcode solid endlink bracelet.
And perhaps a new crystal? :)
Yazzz! Miniwatch special.
@@neilglucente Perhaps so :p
Put liquid nano protector on stock glass. Cheap. Harder and brighter than sapphire. and I don't have to risk losing your water resistance.
I just picked up the red dial version and an looking at getting the black dial kamasu also. It's nice to see it has a sunburst dial also
I bought it for 160 dollars yesterday AND I LOVE IT
What!! Where?
How is the time keeping accuracy? I hope its between 5-10 seconds per day
GADAMIT, I was waiting for you to review the Kamasu for a very long time and just recently found out you named it Mako 3.
The tag on mine (on the box) says Mako III.
Hope I might hold one some day to compare. My Ray II has a scratchy burr crown that is a pain to and dig out and wind. I don't like that hard-to-turn bezel, either. But what makes up for it is that feel and sound like a can of nuts and bolts inside the case whenever I shuffle it. I enjoy the swish of that noisy rotor along with the jingle of the hollow end links.
Beautifully synchronised lime shot.
Somehow I have only just stumbled upon this Channel and omg did I laugh at “check the line” love it!
Still prefer the Mako USA II. The size is ideal. Ray II is still the diver deal of the century too. Mine runs about +1.5 spd after regulation and never varies. One thing I’ve grown to love about the F6922 is that it has very little positional variance. It’s a rock solid movement. Will be interesting to see WTF Orient USA calls this thing. I think it’s the Ray III whether they like it or not. The horse has already left the barn so to speak. Good to see the boys again!
Steven Wymor +1 for Mako USA II 👌
I just sold my blue Ray II to a friend. I am definitely thinking of getting a USA II in blue now. It's such a good watch! Interesting indeed. I can't wait to see what they do! Cheers, Steven!
minitwatch my only issues are the crown, too small and slippery, and the bezel, also too short and slippery. Coin edge for both would be better. But, I’m keeping it. Maybe add the coin edge bezel at some point. Wish somebody made a better crown.
@@stevenwymor1398 Steven, you're up WAY late. Or up WAY early! haha I could keep this watch to totally mod it. Maybe I can convince someone to make a killer coin-edge AND lumed insert for this watch. :)
minitwatch Yobokies has both a coin edge and a submariner style for the Mako/Ray II/USA and all the SKX inserts fit so a ton of options. But the first one Harold sent me didn’t fit right (I think he accidentally sent the wrong bezel) and I sent it back but it’s been stuck in customs in Hong Kong for months so haven’t ordered a replacement yet. So, your mission, should you choose to accept it, should be the crown. And up way late, but I work from home, so I make my own hours. And insomnia since the age of about 12. Ugh.
Very nice watch. Many have been crying for Seiko/Orient to start doing sapphire.... I like it. It hacks & hand winds, and it has sapphire. That was bound to cost more than the SKX. I feel like it is a move in the right direction.... Very nice review.
Ooh! I hope that if they do a "Raven" version that they black the metal parts of the hands out; the floating lume arrows look awesome when the light isn't catching the metal!
Cant believe they haven't fixed the bezel alignment after like 5 revisions!
I have Ray v1. Great peice. Crystal and movement are nice but I like the dial, extra pusher for the day set and the bezel better on the original (similar to Ray 2).
I see strapcode has come out with some bracelets. Might have to look up some vids. Currenty have my SKX stock braclet on my Ray and it is tops.
Those hollow links are a bummer. They're the reason I'm not using my Ray's bracelet. It's a fine bracelet otherwise but that rattle when you shake your wrist... Otherwise this looks great!
Hey Curt, great to have back again! Mele Kalikimaka brah! Now about this Orient, I think the dial face is pretty. The sunburst polishing adds some depth to the look. This is what I wish Seiko would do for their flat matte faces for most of their releases. If you get a blue faced model, I'd love to see how it would match up vs. the Mako II or USA model. I like the idea of not having a chapter ring insert and just letting you see the wall of the watch case surrounding the movement. Big con is the no drilled lugs. Seems to diminish the premium feel that the Mako II offered and even the Mako original had. The oyster bracelet is not my fav so I would put a Strapcode metal Mesh on it. Nice to have a sapphire crystal but I love the glare of the double domes, so a domed would be dropped in too. Then I think it would be a keeper if I were to get one, we'll see :)
Excellent review!! Personally the new version seems to be a step backwards from the US version, the finish to the bracelet is more precise on the US, the SELs are far superior and the case shape with the thinner bezel just works perfectly.
one more difference that I noticed was that the new watch has a flat chapter ring vs a raised insert
Ah, good eye!
Just bought the same watch (whatever it's called!) and being used to wearing 44mm and larger this new diver feels very small. Can't believe it's the same diameter as a Rolex submariner...
Nice watch though with a solid movement just a shame about the hollow end links but a Strapcode bracelet upgrade will probably be on the cards at some point...
Good call on the bracelet. I wonder how this watch would feel with a rubber strap? That's coming soon ish to a youtuber near you! :p
Looks like a weird mashup of the Orient Triton and the old ray/mako II. It has the same hour and minutes hand as the Triton but the seconds hand is from the old mako. Bezel action seems similar to the Triton, and the buckle looks exactly the same. But then for some reason they kept the crappy end links and crown from the old mako...
Nice!!! Hackable, windable, sapphire...everything my mako doesn't have. Have to have one, besides what's one more dive watch 😲
Can't have too many dive watches :D
Tru dat! Although my wife is looking at my dresser and wondering why there are 6 dive watches...which to me are completely different...but to her are exactly the same. ☹️
Nice vid. Waiting for mine to arrive. Got the blue face and just ordered a bartons leather strap.
I prefer the Ray II, looks best IMO. And the blue dial is gorgeus.
I slightly prefer the Ray II, had a blueone with shark mesh strap. Sapphire Crystal at this price level though here.....
3:18 *the world breathes a sigh of relief*
Haha yep!
Enjoyed your review very much! great comparisons you did there. was lying in bed watching this and after the lume comparison when you put the light on again I nearly got blinded. hehehe, totally worth it ;)
Awesome, finally a review of this thing. I really want to get the green one. My one gripe is the crown seems a bit small for the guards as you can see a gap inbetween when looking straight down at the watch.
Crown is polished too, really hard to grip!
It if were just one mm thicker!
@@willardhooton920 I don't seem to have an issue gripping mine. But then again, I have tiny yet strong af fingers ;/
minitwatch I think I’ve been spoiled by the easier crown gripping of the likes of Samurai, Amphibia and Ocean One Steiny!
Really enjoyed your video! After the Check the Lume bit had to subscribe!
I just picked up the dark green version. Looks really good, way better than the black one imo.
Green looks good. I got the black one because it's going to be my every day watch for now. Can wear it with anything.
Awesome review !
The new model has the nicest dial and bezel insert styling by far. Those things plus sapphire make a peanut happy
See the problem with this is..... I can't decide which one looks better. Blue or Black? D:
Check the lume, check the lume, get a light, make it glow!
The Elder Lumes are back 👍
For sure :)
ok this is the best watch channel now
I really love the dial on the new Orient. It reminds me a bit of the sword hand seamasters. The only problem I have with the watch is the size. I know you measured it at 41mm, but it did look a bit bigger to me than the other Orients. Maybe I'm imagining it. If it's the same case and size I'll definitely pick one of these up in the future.
There isn't a chapter ring like the previous version so the dial looks bigger. It may feel bigger on wrist because of that but the case is the same essentially.
Also, perhaps in a few months they'll go down in price!
@@minitwatch I definitely hope so!
@@BiffTannenBTTF That's a good point. I didn't notice the lack of a chapter ring. I wonder if the bracelet is also making look a little bigger as well.
Please never change the Morrowind lume check diddy 🙏
It wont change. It's not going to be in every video....but it will always be around even though It took an arrow to the knee.
9:42... you’re welcome. Great review of the whatever-it-is, as always Curt. But that price though... meh.
Hopefully the price goes down. We'll see! Thanks, Dami!
excellent review
excuse a question what exact model is the blue finish? 13:00
I have an orange Ray 2, and don't see anything in this new one that would entice me to get it. Surprised you mention QC issues as mine seems fine. Good review mate, and I love the check the lume feature 👍
Really like the bezel and bezel insert much better on the new one. It’s a great looking watch but they cut too many corners. A stamped clasp and hollow end links on anything over $150 is a bit of a joke. I wish Orient would make these things quality all the way through and just charge a bit more for them. People would gladly pay for a quality product
I mean, I got the USA II for about the same price when it was new. I don't understand it myself but I think the prices are currently being gouged by sellers due to its "new-ness". That has to be at least part of it, anyway. I am hopeful that the price goes down in a few months. We'll see!
minitwatch same here man, I bought the Mako USA 2 when it just came out for $287 after discounts. I thought that was a fair price since it comes with a hacking, hand windable movement, sapphire, and solid end links.
But even then, the bracelet has a mediocre stamped clasp. How much more does it really cost to put a proper milled clasp on there, a couple bucks? Just charge me $300 and give me a quality clasp.
It’s the fact that a lot of these brands (especially Seiko and Orient), try to cut corners on little things like a clasp or end links that’s more annoying than anything.
The may release another "USA" version at a higher price.
Unfortunally you also see misaligned bezels at Rolex, so its not only Orient and Seiko who have this issue
But you don't see bad bezel action from rolex , I got one of these and the bezel is pure garbage
Man, great review, but the lume tune is amazing! :D
I'm debating between two because of Mineral vs Sapphire crystal glasses.
Which one is better?
Why is Orient using tiny crowns on the Rayll/Makoll and now the 3rd gen of the lll.
Crowns are irritatingly small and polished with poor grip with stiff winding movement- still sweet though!...
@Evocati Haha! that's what she said!
Probably so they can use the same old case :p
You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friends nose.......but you dude picked the best one!!! Dangit man, I bought another Seeeeiiiiikkkkkoooo which may have alignment issues, hopefully not. Merry Christmas man, wishing you all the best 😎👍🌲
I guarantee that I can pick my friends noses :p Well, a few of them anyway. Some of my homies are that crazy haha! I hope it's not mis-aligned my dude! Merry Christmas to you as well!
I can’t find the 41mm with the oyster bracelet anywhere !!! Only rubber strap. I only see 44mm with the oyster bracelet.
These are some pretty cool new Orients.
The boys are back in town, great review...Merry Christmas! 🎄
hey great vid , do you think a mako usa II bezel will fit on to the kamasu , i have the usa II in white , id like to buy the blue Kamasu and put the blue bezel onto the usa in white & take the black use bezel and put it on the blue kamasu ... you think they would swap ..? cheers
good info...is there a posibolities comparing Mako III to Mini Turtle SEIKO Prospex SRPC35J1 or what can you say about this turtle. thanks!
Super, new video :) Thanks man
Thank YOU for watching :)
Check the loom 🎶
Either way, check it! :D
@Nathaniel's Phone My bad 🙈
Kurt! How goes it my friend! So yeah the Mako II just checks all the boxes, such a good value. The only thing that I like about this new watch is the indices, they just look so much more clean. I loved the return of the lume song. Glad to see the boys back in action. Keep the vids coming! Merry Christmas brah!
What is the size of the crown? And nice video!!!!
I’m surprised about the QC issues you’re talking about. I have a Mako II USA and just sold a Mako II Pepsi. Both were perfect. In fact they made me hate my SKX at the time because they lined up so well.
I still think the USA is the better watch. Solid end links and drilled lug holes ftw!
I just sold my Ray II to a friend and am thinking of getting the blue USA II as a replacement. I just love those USA IIs!
Hey minit! Glad you uploaded this as was super curious about this new diver... Have you considered picking up and reviewing a seagull 1963 chronograph for about 200 bucks?
You can call me Curt :) I have considered it and it's on my HUGE list. The problem is money, time, remembering, money, remembering, and other things haha!
I have a Mako XL in orange, which looks beautiful, but is technically rubbish. I also have the Orient Kamazu, which is technically far better and looks amazing with the red dial. For the money my best 200m diver is a Parnis. 43mm, sapphire crystal, solid end links, ceramic insert, Miyota movement.
This thing with numbers in the dial would be off the chain.
I prefer not having the polished center links. The polished look cheesy. All brushed looks classy.
Orient ray 2 is the best orient diver!
It's definitely a great value!
Yeah right we all know how that thicker wrist came about 😂 recent subscriber just ploughing through some of your older vids, I dig your style 👍🏻
Wow! I want to steal these watches!
Wow you are back, I heard you went to Aspen to become a ski instructor, had a romantic liaison with a rich business women and then fell in love with a hot disk jockey :)
Okay. I need to watch Aspen Extreme now :p. Funny thing, I did go a a Ski Lodge on Mt Hood last week :p
Watch K2 also, it's a great double feature :)
Is this the Kamasu? I thought it had a matte dial, I love the sunburst on this.
solid end links cost pennies more, they just don't do it to differentiate the more premium models
I wish there will be orient star ray with 40mm.
I wish they'd even go to 39mm!
It wears small, don't let that stop you. Black helps.
Great review, entertaining as always. Love the watch, the only thing I don't like is the indices are slightly off white and it's noticeable. And the price is still a little steep.
Great video as per usual mate. Are you keeping all 3?
Thanks, Nick! Sadly no, I just sold my blue Ray II to a close friend that needed a watch. It was sad for me to see it go but seeing my buddy happy was worth the sale. I might use the money to go towards a USA II in blue since I no longer have a blue Orient Diver. OR, buy food. Haha! Life decisions!
Glad to see ya again m8te !
And the mako usa II, worth a eye shot (even if have the blue ray II, the bracelet is really poor less than one year and it is rattling like the louder rattlesnakes :D )
Top video as usual !
Hi Curt, great review & very entertaining with the "boys" as always! I'm having trouble justifying double the cost of this new model over the Orient Mako/Ray II. Arguably, the only real benefit is the sapphire crystal, which you could pick up an AR Blue Sapphire for either the Mako/Ray II, for around $32 bucks at crystaltimes.net. I paid $135 for my Mako II, so it's literally double for this new model. I can't see it; am I wrong?
I do agree with you and I'm sure the prices will go down. I was struggling justifying this purchase but I did it anyway because I felt like i had to. You're definitely not wrong. Thank you, kindly!
Where can I get the Mako 3 with the japanese symbols ? I can find only with sun (for sunday)...
Dude you're crazy 🤣 I was singing 🎶check the lume🎶 for awhile today after watching your video today🤣
Anyway, whats the difference on the Kamasu with the last letter being an "A" on LIW, and a "B" on Jomashop? Are they the same, or is there any differences?
Just about to wonder why you haven’t released new videos then this one shows up. Been waiting for this so called mako 3 (but then Relative Time clarified that it wasn’t designated as “mako 3”) review. I’ve wanted this watch but i think i should reconsider it. To be honest i’m a bit dissapointed because the lume and bracelet are not better than Ray’s and this newer model is not even on par with Mako USA.
Anyway great and entertaining review as always!
Dimas Pardede Mako USA II is the indisputable pick of the 3👍
I am probably going to let it go and get another USA II in blue. I just love them!
@@willardhooton920 Absolutely!
I see someone is a big Elder Scrolls Fan :P Check that lume!
I think I still prefer the Mako USA 2
I am actually thinking of selling my foot and getting the blue version of the USA II.
minitwatch hey, we got two feet for a reason, right?
@@minitwatch Hmmmm..... what's a foot go for these days??
Welcome back Curt. I missed you man!!
Why the movement holder of mako 3 or whatever it is, is plastic?? Not like the mako 2 which is metal?
lmfao the check the lume song. was not expecting that haha
I have 5 Orient watches(Mako2, Ray2, Kamasu red, Kamasu green, Kamasu 4) now. They are all great watches, but if you shake them left and right softly for more than 10 seconds, they all speed up for 4 ~ 5 seconds immediately. If you do it again, they speed up more. Also, they all speed up approximately 10 ~15 seconds after walking for 3 ~ 5km or exercise in gym)
Since all of my 5 Orient watches and SKX007 are same, I think it's normal for them. Anybody has comment for this here?
would rather cop a skx007 or maybe a seiko samurai for the same price point
Samurai would be a great buy. Once could get a 007 AND a Seiko 5 for the price of this new watch!
Do you know if the Mako/Ray 2 bracelet fits on this guy?