You guys may be overthinking it - Revelation is a book written as ancient apocalyptic literature about John of Patmos' present situation with Roman rule - it's not a prediction of what's going to happen in . Bad things continued (and continue) to happen, yet there is no End Time, so there's a reason why Augustine's allegorical millennialism became official church doctrine. All that said, I would be interested in a lecture on the actual history of church thought (and consequential dissenting thought) on Christian Eschatology.
My husband (denominational leader) is reading The Story of Christian Theology by Roger Olson. He is really loving it for the reasons you mentioned above.
Couldn't agree more about the overthinking. This brand of American Evangelical end times stuff is entirely derived from one reading of one book of the Bible. If you need to pull out charts to explain this stuff, you've missed the point. Loved the first half of the interview though.
The isolation from other leaders in your church team is a big one. I am in it right now. I am interested to know what you would do (as a leader) to not let that happen?
Such a great episode. Thank you for having him and hearing wisdom in all areas esp areas of moral character so needed in this hour!
Glad you enjoyed it!
another great episode, love the wisdom from Max Lucado
The part of Revelation I do understand is that God will wipe away all tears. That is something I can hang my hat on.
Anyone have the time stamp on the part about "green, yellow, and red flags on integrity" from this episode?
You guys may be overthinking it - Revelation is a book written as ancient apocalyptic literature about John of Patmos' present situation with Roman rule - it's not a prediction of what's going to happen in . Bad things continued (and continue) to happen, yet there is no End Time, so there's a reason why Augustine's allegorical millennialism became official church doctrine. All that said, I would be interested in a lecture on the actual history of church thought (and consequential dissenting thought) on Christian Eschatology.
My husband (denominational leader) is reading The Story of Christian Theology by Roger Olson. He is really loving it for the reasons you mentioned above.
@@robinmackie Thanks for the recommendation!
Couldn't agree more about the overthinking. This brand of American Evangelical end times stuff is entirely derived from one reading of one book of the Bible. If you need to pull out charts to explain this stuff, you've missed the point. Loved the first half of the interview though.
I recommend Mystery Explained: A Simple Guide to Revelation by David Campbell. Great, concise, historical teaching on Revelation
@@PattrickM What makes Mr. Campbell an expert on the book of Revelation?
I went a training called the Third Option by Miles McPherson.
The isolation from other leaders in your church team is a big one. I am in it right now. I am interested to know what you would do (as a leader) to not let that happen?
What number end times is this one going to be, we've had so many I've lost count 🤷
I uphold the Billy Graham rule.