Brian and Bob, thanks for a very interesting and informative video. Looking forward to many more. In particular I loved hearing Bob share his insights and experiences from the past, thank you sir.
Bob, I have the utmost respect for you and the legacy that you have created for your sons and their families. It is also inspiring to see you still working every day to keep up that legacy. I am sorry for the loss of your wife. My mom died in 2018 after suffering from similar circumstances.
Farm programs started in the 1930s under FDR and the depression and just like all government it refuses to let go of control once they get it. I farmed for 50 years and hated dealing with the government and jumping through all there hoops but I loved farming and I’m a little older than Bob and I love your videos. How blessed you are Bob to be able to work with your sons.
i am not a farmer, but grew up around it in the 80"s. I love this and hope you continue to publish a RUclips version alongside the podcast when you get that set up. You two are great to listen to and learn from.
Back in the 80’s it was my job to work and plant the pic acres. We would disc it up and drill in oats on those acres. I don’t remember if a cover crop was required or not. Usually the pic acres were wet spots that couldn’t get planted right away or the poorest ground. I did it all with a 720 John Deere diesel. That was a hill start tractor. I remember we would get loans on all the crop. The yellow tags were on everything. Including the corn cribs with the ear corn. Great series Bob and Brian. I would love to hear the experience of the transition from conventional crop to round up ready when that first came out. I remember it being a game changer on soybeans for yield and cost.
Thanks for the video Brian and Bob. Your discussions were most interesting. Govt loans in the farming industry have always created huge discussions. Lots of ups and downs to the programs. Some are understood and some are not. I trust that you folks use what is of value to you and some parts you do not. You both take care. Thanks for the discussion. The Iowa farm boy. Steve.
Congratulations on your short podcast Brian and Bob Interesting to hear of similar antics and corruption across the water . I believe many sectors are corrupt from the top down . And all for greed. Life is cheap and too much poverty . Love following your channel . 🤝🤝
Thanks for coveing this subject. I'm a common man not in the farming industry but have always loved seeing farmers farm, I've wwondered how the insurance and subsidies worked. Very eye opening. Keep on Keeping on and I appreciate your outlook on it all. Good farmers should be rewarded and bad not, just as in any part of civilization.
our local elevator closed three years ago, overnight I needed wheat and corn storage. I went to the FSA to barrowed the fund's through the storage facility loan program. went very well. I used my line of credit to pay for the bins and get them put up. once we completed the process. FSA closed the loan and we were ready to go. I thought it was really good. and very helpful. really good interest rate as well.
This was a great discussion. THere are so many factors involved in the issue of farm subsidies and the farm bill that it gets confusing and hard to explain to non farm people. The farm bill, as mentioned, is primarily made up of non farm entitlement programs. This has been done over the years to get non farm senators and representatives to vote for the part that helps farmers, and to get farm state reps to vote for the entitlement programs. And yes, many, many industries get various types of subsidies, some direct and many more indirect through tweaks to the tax laws. So if I was still farming I would sign up for whatever was legal, as you are doing. I started farming full time in 1973, so lived through the PIK program and all the rest, for better or worse. Good luck.
RUclips is great. You get to see and virtually meet people you never would. I have been watching grain markets and farm stuff. Your right about people not getting the full story on the internet but it highlights how curious people can be. I watch trucker videos too and people in the comments will criticize how a guy ties down the load. My doctor has a coffee cup that says. "Your internet search isnt the same as my medical degree."
Guys great video. I like yourselves have heard so many comments from city folk about how the farmer gets all these handouts. Like you said they don’t understand the majority of farm bill $$$ is food stamps. Yes if the money is out there you have to take it. Part of it is about keeping yourself competitive. If you don’t and your neighbor does, he’s got more buying power when it comes to rent and other items. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on farm machinery prices. I went to upgrade one of my tractors last week. Came to the conclusion that my old one which isn’t that old won’t be replaced. The $$$ to upgrade were just too much. Love to hear your conversation about Ross county. As I mentioned before I grew up in Ross County. My best friend farms just north of you in Pickaway County. Now I farm in western Iowa myself
Greetings from Minnesota. Bob, u remind me alot of my own father. He started farming in 83 talks alot about what he had to go through. Hope 25 is better for all of us. God bless
Good video,, I enjoy enjoy listening to your dad talk about past years,, good job Brian,, been watching your videos really from when you first started, 👍
Evening Thankyou Mr Bob, Brian for another great podcast. I have a topic. Mr Bob has seen a huge change in farm equipment starting with his 4020 now a 1038 Fendt. It would be cool to here his thoughts on the way equipment has evolved since the 60s.
Great video. you touched a lot of bases I was thinking about during your discussion. Maybe you can do a future podcast on inputs. I think most people do not understand the upfront costs of just getting the seed into the ground.
Very good topic! I enjoyed hearing your perspective on those subjects. I use to farm a long time ago and can appreciate your comments One thing I want to ask you is, with China now buying all its beans from Brazil, how do you think it will impact your decisions about what you plant later in the spring?
Thanks for the info on crop subsidies and ur so write on the system is abused by a lot of farmers. But it's usually ones that aren't good farmers to begin with
Interesting to hear Bob's perspective given his years of experience. Some of the stories I've heard over the years of people "playing the system/skirting the rules" are disheartening. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes if they get caught.
I enjoy your videos and the new farm talk. I saw Bob and BJ and family Sunday evening at the steakhouse in Chillicothe. I was with my family in the booth next to them. I would have said hi but didn’t want to disturb their family time.
Informative and interesting thank you! Is ethanol from corn a big subsidy for your crop? If so do corn prices fluctuate with gas prices? Subsidies like insurance never make you whole. Look forward to your videos always.
In the late 1950s there was a program for wheat, limit per person, so my dad had his quota, my uncle with his quota, and an uncle in the city who owned 80 acres of hunting land so they played the system combining the 3. Primarily my dad and uncle ran a dairy farm and the NFO in the early 1960s called a milk strike. Great, how to tell cows to stop giving milk. We didn't join but NFO members threatened to burn our barn so we got out the old separator and I spent my days running milk through the separator because there was a small outfit that would buy our cream for their specialized butter. Milk price at the time was $3.50 per hundred, NFO demanded $5.00, began shipping again for less than $4.00. Farmers are hard to organize when you have something like cows that need to be feed and don't stop producing.
Very informative. Agree that the subsidies just keep people in farming that keep making bad decisions. Making it harder for the guys that do things right.
You have shared the farmers point of view that many people never hear or understand. I've can't understand how the government can treat farmers the way they do when the farmer is feeding the citizen of the United States
Great video. Both have the same thoughts that I have. I agree about helping with the crop insurance premium. That also differs at what % level you sign up for. Also your yield will never go below what they call the county “T” Yield is. That protects the people who farm AAA ground Mostly river or creek bottom ground. Doing a great job with your talks. Please keep the sessions coming. I don’t think any positive feedback for our payments they want to hand out. 😡
Found out you can buy a grain truck as well like the grain bin program, was just told this last week, my uncle is retiring so needing a truck will come in handy about 3% interest, was told bank was 7.9 and farm credit told me 7.2 same day
Bob, you are not much older than me, 68 for me , i grew up over at logan/ hardin counties in ohio, i remember back in 70's where we had wet years, winter more snow , etc. we also had cattle / hogs - so filled silo's and ground our own feed , open station combines, open station tractors, etc but then in late 70's went to navy and left ohio, ag has changed so much
clay..i can remember in southwest iowa where we farmed...had a strech in the field...only about 20 ft long...when dad reached that with the 560 turbo, 5 ft 16 in plow....the front end raised off the ground big time...clay is terrible to plow through
I faintly remember fields being split in half or not able to plant whole farms due to as your dad said pik year seemed like the freedom to farm bill got all that knocked out
Thank you for your frank conversation I am an Australian farmer and your view on government influence in farming practices and the manipulation of the market by Data released never helps the growers and subsidies mostly end up in the middle man’s pocket. In Australia we get no help in crop insurance and it is mostly too expensive premiums in the 15% to 20% of the crop value. Our government subsidies are $0.42 per litre on fuel that costs $1.87 to $2.40 per litre. We get a 75% subsidy on export registration fees and quarantine fees, state governments give us an exemption on land tax and we get 50% on R&D projects that are run as national projects and that is about it We don’t have anyone telling us how much we can grow but we are all under QA system’s controlled by 2 supermarkets yes 2 and if we don’t comply we are not allowed to sell. On farm Flora and Fauna register Bo diversity register External audits that cost a fortune. We pay 12% superannuation for our workers and the bass rate of pay is $30 per hour plus compo plus superannuation ends up $40 all up. And we are on nothing left So I don’t know what system is best, at least you have a support net for when markets collapse and we don’t. Lovely to hear you both talk and I think you could have called this segment Farm truth. Great to see.
Excellent discussion - especially the fact that the 'Farm Program/Farm Bill' is utilized primarily for funding welfare programs and school lunches. The money in the farm bill needs to be specifically for farmers in support of either prices or emergencies such as a derecho or wild fire. When something is subsidized, the price increases (insurance, etc.). In the late 1950's/early 60's, a program called 'Soil Bank' took land out of production - similar to CRP acres now. However, today's CRP is not managed as originally proposed to take marginal land out of production to provide protection for watershed, etc. I've witnessed retirements being funded by CRP on highly productive land - which was not the intent. The original CRP program was limited to a set number of acres on a national basis. Urban sprawl and 'alternative energy' is taking more productive land out of production than it is generating.
I live in South Central PA. Land Persevere is a big thing which has good results, put used by some with connections to run up the price than put it in Persevere than back on the market$$$$ A neighbor of mine bought a few acres behind me for $75,000. The county gave him $85,000 to put it in Persevere. He owns 3 more joining farms for a total of 350 acres. ALL in Persevere. To fund Persevere 1.5 mills is added to county tax. He can run his equipment off the road and in your yard or up the bank. He left the bin extension up and took out over head wires. His taxes are very very low, but if you shoot a deer on your property and it goes on his, good luck. Get down on your knees before you cross the line.
You guys are right! Working with government programs is taxing, (pun intended). Maybe you guys would benefit by having Kayla research and deal with the programs. Maybe she can make the time that you and Bob don't have that is necessary to work effectively with the programs? In a time when we have to watch and collect every dollar we can receive. Who doesn't have 2-5 acres to dedicate to the Monarch Butterfly Program? They take junk ground and plant weeds and pay you.
Great video most folks would be surprised to know how many in congress have ties to agriculture, so the farm bill made by the politicians for politicians. Just like they buy stock and make laws to make the Compians that the own stock price to go up.
I live just northwest of you guys in Madison County, and my biggest gripe as a nonfarmer is that most of the crops go to nonfood production, and the number of farms selling out to solar is out of control.
@ For starters, I'm in the local government, and many of these deals violate the county farm first initiative, and there were many backdoor deals to get them put in. Still, at the same time, if I want to get a subdivision put in because of the growth from Columbus, it's a big fat no. many of the farms that sold to Solar inherited the farm from families with no plans to farm and sold to Solar before selling to nearby farms. they promise big money and returns for the farms and locals, but that only if the produce many haven't and they an eyesore to look at. Solar of today is like the oil and gas leases of the past promise the world, and they are nowhere to be found when they are done with you and the problems show up.
My parents farm in Oregon. CRP dropped in price. Their neighbor took a field out of CRP as many people around them cause they can make more farming it now. Also not far from my parents, a farmer had solar panels put on land and that upsets me. It took farmland away for a dwindling career.
I worked for machinery companies in my working career and understood that without some government intervention, we would sell less equipment. Some subsidies were necessary to keep US farmers competitive on the world stage / markets. There is a lot that is beyond farmer's control that should be able to get some help on when weather or acts of God cause crop failures. The government should be involved with setting a floor price but the rest should be up to the farmer and what amount of risk they can stand in their operation. Government should not reward / make whole for reckless actions in any industry.
Enjoyed listening to Farmer Talk and watching all your videos. You both look really comfortable in those chairs. Who makes them I'm interested in purchasing a set for myself. Thanks
We used to do a 5 acre alfalfa field hidden by 5 acres of crp ground. Found out later he was getting paid for 10 acres of crp. We cut ties. Especially when the crp was up he decided he wanted $270 an acre. 10 Years ago. Nope from us
Interesting topic When it comes to pricing of comodities, is that dictated entirely by the market (supply-demand) or is there a governtmental subsidise so the farmers achieve a minimum price? in our case (Norway), the government agrees a minimum target price for potatoes, grain, apples and certain vegetables with the market regulators. This is done annually and will also dicated the need for import and how the import toll/customs should be set. In essence, the farmer is guaranteed a minimum price defined from what is considered to be a "balanced" market. The same applies for milk, egg, meat (beef, pig and lamb), but is based on volume as we have quota system for how much a farmer can produce.
It is the same here more of the agricultural budget is going electricity companies for solar and several of the top five recipents is a county council in the south west and a pair of chairities each of whom out strip by millions the amount that one of the largest farms in the country (Dyson) that actually produces food.
A theme I've seen on some of the haters that are always spewing about subsidies is they're often people that grew up farming and the family farm went under for whatever reason and they're bitter about it yet and hate everyone that still has the opportunity to farm.
Like when the AMERICAN AGRICULTURE MOVEMENT was trying to good prices for the crops! I drove a tractor to Washington D.C. to try to get our government to help the farmers for fair prices, etc.
A bunch around us had river or creek bottom ground government bought it planted trees took that miney and then bid up other ground lost 2 farms that way, sucks got 3000 acre and some got way more, some crp around me was over 300 over 7 years ago, prime ground
William T. Smith, Big Flats, NY farmer, bought a Cadillac in 1961 for $6,100 using money from his farm subsidies. Drove it around campaigning for Sate Senate, won and served for 12 years. Not much changes.
Looks like you need a better shutter system, on the vent fan, in the far wall that’s behind you in the video. Here’s to a great 2025 for the entire Brown family and crew!
Brian and Bob, thanks for a very interesting and informative video. Looking forward to many more.
In particular I loved hearing Bob share his insights and experiences from the past, thank you sir.
Bob, I have the utmost respect for you and the legacy that you have created for your sons and their families. It is also inspiring to see you still working every day to keep up that legacy. I am sorry for the loss of your wife. My mom died in 2018 after suffering from similar circumstances.
McBees......the old man got busted for cheating crop insurance
Farm programs started in the 1930s under FDR and the depression and just like all government it refuses to let go of control once they get it. I farmed for 50 years and hated dealing with the government and jumping through all there hoops but I loved farming and I’m a little older than Bob and I love your videos. How blessed you are Bob to be able to work with your sons.
I'm so sorry you had to participate as a member of society. I'm glad you made it through alright.
i am not a farmer, but grew up around it in the 80"s. I love this and hope you continue to publish a RUclips version alongside the podcast when you get that set up. You two are great to listen to and learn from.
Back in the 80’s it was my job to work and plant the pic acres. We would disc it up and drill in oats on those acres. I don’t remember if a cover crop was required or not. Usually the pic acres were wet spots that couldn’t get planted right away or the poorest ground. I did it all with a 720 John Deere diesel. That was a hill start tractor.
I remember we would get loans on all the crop. The yellow tags were on everything. Including the corn cribs with the ear corn.
Great series Bob and Brian. I would love to hear the experience of the transition from conventional crop to round up ready when that first came out. I remember it being a game changer on soybeans for yield and cost.
Thanks for the video Brian and Bob.
Your discussions were most interesting. Govt loans in the farming industry have always created huge discussions. Lots of ups and downs to the programs. Some are understood and some are not. I trust that you folks use what is of value to you and some parts you do not.
You both take care. Thanks for the discussion.
The Iowa farm boy. Steve.
Congratulations on your short podcast Brian and Bob Interesting to hear of similar antics and corruption across the water . I believe many sectors are corrupt from the top down . And all for greed. Life is cheap and too much poverty . Love following your channel . 🤝🤝
Thanks for coveing this subject. I'm a common man not in the farming industry but have always loved seeing farmers farm, I've wwondered how the insurance and subsidies worked. Very eye opening. Keep on Keeping on and I appreciate your outlook on it all. Good farmers should be rewarded and bad not, just as in any part of civilization.
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Brian this is a great video Bob knows so much about farming and he's seen a lot of changes during the years.
I wish more people were more informed on this information. I agree 100 percent with Brian.
our local elevator closed three years ago, overnight I needed wheat and corn storage. I went to the FSA to barrowed the fund's through the storage facility loan program. went very well. I used my line of credit to pay for the bins and get them put up. once we completed the process. FSA closed the loan and we were ready to go. I thought it was really good. and very helpful. really good interest rate as well.
Very interesting guys. I think I'm gonna like this long-term.
I enjoy watching your videos. Better than anything on TV.
This was a great discussion. THere are so many factors involved in the issue of farm subsidies and the farm bill that it gets confusing and hard to explain to non farm people. The farm bill, as mentioned, is primarily made up of non farm entitlement programs. This has been done over the years to get non farm senators and representatives to vote for the part that helps farmers, and to get farm state reps to vote for the entitlement programs. And yes, many, many industries get various types of subsidies, some direct and many more indirect through tweaks to the tax laws. So if I was still farming I would sign up for whatever was legal, as you are doing. I started farming full time in 1973, so lived through the PIK program and all the rest, for better or worse. Good luck.
RUclips is great. You get to see and virtually meet people you never would. I have been watching grain markets and farm stuff. Your right about people not getting the full story on the internet but it highlights how curious people can be. I watch trucker videos too and people in the comments will criticize how a guy ties down the load. My doctor has a coffee cup that says. "Your internet search isnt the same as my medical degree."
Guys great video. I like yourselves have heard so many comments from city folk about how the farmer gets all these handouts. Like you said they don’t understand the majority of farm bill $$$ is food stamps. Yes if the money is out there you have to take it. Part of it is about keeping yourself competitive. If you don’t and your neighbor does, he’s got more buying power when it comes to rent and other items. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on farm machinery prices. I went to upgrade one of my tractors last week. Came to the conclusion that my old one which isn’t that old won’t be replaced. The $$$ to upgrade were just too much. Love to hear your conversation about Ross county. As I mentioned before I grew up in Ross County. My best friend farms just north of you in Pickaway County. Now I farm in western Iowa myself
I can’t wait to hear your expert opinion on solar panels and wind turbines.
Very enjoyable. A great listen guys. Look forward to next Sunday!
Greetings from Minnesota. Bob, u remind me alot of my own father. He started farming in 83 talks alot about what he had to go through. Hope 25 is better for all of us. God bless
please keep this on U-Tube I find your channel very good, I like the way you Farm plus you explain why and how Thanks
Good video,, I enjoy enjoy listening to your dad talk about past years,, good job Brian,, been watching your videos really from when you first started, 👍
Outstanding conversation. Please keep up the good talk
Evening Thankyou Mr Bob, Brian for another great podcast. I have a topic. Mr Bob has seen a huge change in farm equipment starting with his 4020 now a 1038 Fendt. It would be cool to here his thoughts on the way equipment has evolved since the 60s.
Great video!!
I always appreciate you and your dad's opinions and knowledge. I hope to meet you guys sometime, maybe the national farm machinery show?
Very interesting video 📹, more of this please...
Your exactly right Brian when you say there's so much corruption in this world 😢
I like your talking video you put out a lot of information I always like watching your videos
Remember to thank dad for what you have. Hope all good and healthy.
Great video. you touched a lot of bases I was thinking about during your discussion. Maybe you can do a future podcast on inputs. I think most people do not understand the upfront costs of just getting the seed into the ground.
I quess the only thing i can say, fully agree whit the Browns on this, thanks and greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
Great discussion. Tough topic with pros and cons but a lot of misconception from the general public. Thanks Brian.
Well done thks for taking your time.
I love these videos. Lots to be learned
Very good topic! I enjoyed hearing your perspective on those subjects. I use to farm a long time ago and can appreciate your comments One thing I want to ask you is, with China now buying all its beans from Brazil, how do you think it will impact your decisions about what you plant later in the spring?
Greeting from Tallahassee! Heavy rain this morning and in the low 40's. Excellent content and discussion. Take care and be safe...
Interesting video ! Learned some things , that is always a good thing !
Enjoying your Farm Talk!
Very interesting and informative. Thank you 😊
Thanks for the info on crop subsidies and ur so write on the system is abused by a lot of farmers. But it's usually ones that aren't good farmers to begin with
Interesting to hear Bob's perspective given his years of experience. Some of the stories I've heard over the years of people "playing the system/skirting the rules" are disheartening. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes if they get caught.
Great educational video. Thank you!
I enjoy your videos and the new farm talk. I saw Bob and BJ and family Sunday evening at the steakhouse in Chillicothe. I was with my family in the booth next to them. I would have said hi but didn’t want to disturb their family time.
thats ok, you could of said hi. thanks for watching
Great video, thank you,keep doing this
Informative and interesting thank you! Is ethanol from corn a big subsidy for your crop? If so do corn prices fluctuate with gas prices? Subsidies like insurance never make you whole. Look forward to your videos always.
More educational conversation. You two are awesome fellows.
Love love this. I was in late high school at this time wondering if I should stay on the family and dairy farm in WISCONSIN
In the late 1950s there was a program for wheat, limit per person, so my dad had his quota, my uncle with his quota, and an uncle in the city who owned 80 acres of hunting land so they played the system combining the 3. Primarily my dad and uncle ran a dairy farm and the NFO in the early 1960s called a milk strike. Great, how to tell cows to stop giving milk. We didn't join but NFO members threatened to burn our barn so we got out the old separator and I spent my days running milk through the separator because there was a small outfit that would buy our cream for their specialized butter. Milk price at the time was $3.50 per hundred, NFO demanded $5.00, began shipping again for less than $4.00. Farmers are hard to organize when you have something like cows that need to be feed and don't stop producing.
Very informative. Agree that the subsidies just keep people in farming that keep making bad decisions. Making it harder for the guys that do things right.
Pasture, and hay ground is where it's coming from. You can thank ethanol for the increase in acres. Guys started planting corn in their front yard.
Kentucky used to have base on tobacco acres. In weight per farm size. But they stepped out starting in the 90's.
You have shared the farmers point of view that many people never hear or understand. I've can't understand how the government can treat farmers the way they do when the farmer is feeding the citizen of the United States
Appreciate u guys sitting down with the commentary. U should have a cocktail in these tslks
Enjoying Farm Talk, thanks guys
Great video. Both have the same thoughts that I have.
I agree about helping with the crop insurance premium. That also differs at what % level you sign up for. Also your yield will never go below what they call the county “T” Yield is.
That protects the people who farm AAA ground Mostly river or creek bottom ground.
Doing a great job with your talks. Please keep the sessions coming.
I don’t think any positive feedback for our payments they want to hand out. 😡
Found out you can buy a grain truck as well like the grain bin program, was just told this last week, my uncle is retiring so needing a truck will come in handy about 3% interest, was told bank was 7.9 and farm credit told me 7.2 same day
I'm the same age as your dad I agree with what your dad is saying you guys still a good job keep it up
Bob, you are not much older than me, 68 for me , i grew up over at logan/ hardin counties in ohio, i remember back in 70's where we had wet years, winter more snow , etc. we also had cattle / hogs - so filled silo's and ground our own feed , open station combines, open station tractors, etc but then in late 70's went to navy and left ohio, ag has changed so much
clay..i can remember in southwest iowa where we farmed...had a strech in the field...only about 20 ft long...when dad reached that with the 560 turbo, 5 ft 16 in plow....the front end raised off the ground big time...clay is terrible to plow through
I faintly remember fields being split in half or not able to plant whole farms due to as your dad said pik year seemed like the freedom to farm bill got all that knocked out
Thank you for your frank conversation I am an Australian farmer and your view on government influence in farming practices and the manipulation of the market by Data released never helps the growers and subsidies mostly end up in the middle man’s pocket.
In Australia we get no help in crop insurance and it is mostly too expensive premiums in the 15% to 20% of the crop value.
Our government subsidies are $0.42 per litre on fuel that costs $1.87 to $2.40 per litre.
We get a 75% subsidy on export registration fees and quarantine fees, state governments give us an exemption on land tax and we get 50% on R&D projects that are run as national projects and that is about it
We don’t have anyone telling us how much we can grow but we are all under QA system’s controlled by 2 supermarkets yes 2 and if we don’t comply we are not allowed to sell.
On farm Flora and Fauna register Bo diversity register
External audits that cost a fortune.
We pay 12% superannuation for our workers and the bass rate of pay is $30 per hour plus compo plus superannuation ends up $40 all up.
And we are on nothing left
So I don’t know what system is best, at least you have a support net for when markets collapse and we don’t.
Lovely to hear you both talk and I think you could have called this segment Farm truth. Great to see.
Enjoy your videos.. i enjoy hearing the stories from your dad..
Excellent discussion - especially the fact that the 'Farm Program/Farm Bill' is utilized primarily for funding welfare programs and school lunches. The money in the farm bill needs to be specifically for farmers in support of either prices or emergencies such as a derecho or wild fire. When something is subsidized, the price increases (insurance, etc.).
In the late 1950's/early 60's, a program called 'Soil Bank' took land out of production - similar to CRP acres now. However, today's CRP is not managed as originally proposed to take marginal land out of production to provide protection for watershed, etc. I've witnessed retirements being funded by CRP on highly productive land - which was not the intent. The original CRP program was limited to a set number of acres on a national basis.
Urban sprawl and 'alternative energy' is taking more productive land out of production than it is generating.
I live in South Central PA. Land Persevere is a big thing which has good results, put used by some with connections to run up the price than put it in Persevere than back on the market$$$$ A neighbor of mine bought a few acres behind me for $75,000. The county gave him $85,000 to put it in Persevere. He owns 3 more joining farms for a total of 350 acres. ALL in Persevere. To fund Persevere 1.5 mills is added to county tax. He can run his equipment off the road and in your yard or up the bank. He left the bin extension up and took out over head wires. His taxes are very very low, but if you shoot a deer on your property and it goes on his, good luck. Get down on your knees before you cross the line.
You guys are right! Working with government programs is taxing, (pun intended). Maybe you guys would benefit by having Kayla research and deal with the programs. Maybe she can make the time that you and Bob don't have that is necessary to work effectively with the programs? In a time when we have to watch and collect every dollar we can receive. Who doesn't have 2-5 acres to dedicate to the Monarch Butterfly Program? They take junk ground and plant weeds and pay you.
Great video most folks would be surprised to know how many in congress have ties to agriculture, so the farm bill made by the politicians for politicians. Just like they buy stock and make laws to make the Compians that the own stock price to go up.
I live just northwest of you guys in Madison County, and my biggest gripe as a nonfarmer is that most of the crops go to nonfood production, and the number of farms selling out to solar is out of control.
Why be mad at a indavidual making the land value 3X what farming it will pay...Why be upset about your decision on land you do not own ?
@ For starters, I'm in the local government, and many of these deals violate the county farm first initiative, and there were many backdoor deals to get them put in. Still, at the same time, if I want to get a subdivision put in because of the growth from Columbus, it's a big fat no. many of the farms that sold to Solar inherited the farm from families with no plans to farm and sold to Solar before selling to nearby farms. they promise big money and returns for the farms and locals, but that only if the produce many haven't and they an eyesore to look at. Solar of today is like the oil and gas leases of the past promise the world, and they are nowhere to be found when they are done with you and the problems show up.
Thanks for doing this Brian
I like your Farmers talk.
“Land Bank” was way before CRP. Dad had some farm ground in land bank back in the 1960’s.
Same thing different name
Very interesting pod cast Brian and Bob
My parents farm in Oregon. CRP dropped in price. Their neighbor took a field out of CRP as many people around them cause they can make more farming it now. Also not far from my parents, a farmer had solar panels put on land and that upsets me. It took farmland away for a dwindling career.
I worked for machinery companies in my working career and understood that without some government intervention, we would sell less equipment. Some subsidies were necessary to keep US farmers competitive on the world stage / markets. There is a lot that is beyond farmer's control that should be able to get some help on when weather or acts of God cause crop failures. The government should be involved with setting a floor price but the rest should be up to the farmer and what amount of risk they can stand in their operation. Government should not reward / make whole for reckless actions in any industry.
Nice job.
more weekday real world...... please
( retired builder CT )
Enjoyed listening to Farmer Talk and watching all your videos. You both look really comfortable in those chairs. Who makes them I'm interested in purchasing a set for myself. Thanks
Local guys sells them but I can’t remember the brand
Really Enjoying this!
Awesome. Very educational
Very interesting segment.
Good discussion . Property tax is theft communism. No farms no food most important industry. What ever helps farmers good.
Great podcast
On a side note my wife loves those chairs your sitting on. Where did you buy them from. And can you send them to Australia 😂
Yes Sir we did get a small amount of money to purchase hay but it helped
Nice discussion. When i was in America ,in the seventies , they were talking about "parity". What you think about that.
We used to do a 5 acre alfalfa field hidden by 5 acres of crp ground. Found out later he was getting paid for 10 acres of crp. We cut ties. Especially when the crp was up he decided he wanted $270 an acre. 10 Years ago. Nope from us
another great video
Thanks for watching.
Interesting topic
When it comes to pricing of comodities, is that dictated entirely by the market (supply-demand) or is there a governtmental subsidise so the farmers achieve a minimum price?
in our case (Norway), the government agrees a minimum target price for potatoes, grain, apples and certain vegetables with the market regulators. This is done annually and will also dicated the need for import and how the import toll/customs should be set.
In essence, the farmer is guaranteed a minimum price defined from what is considered to be a "balanced" market.
The same applies for milk, egg, meat (beef, pig and lamb), but is based on volume as we have quota system for how much a farmer can produce.
I believe that there should be a buffer strip along all streams of water that’s just my opinion
It is the same here more of the agricultural budget is going electricity companies for solar and several of the top five recipents is a county council in the south west and a pair of chairities each of whom out strip by millions the amount that one of the largest farms in the country (Dyson) that actually produces food.
A theme I've seen on some of the haters that are always spewing about subsidies is they're often people that grew up farming and the family farm went under for whatever reason and they're bitter about it yet and hate everyone that still has the opportunity to farm.
I guess what I I’ve seen on other RUclips channels my thoughts were that the crop insurance only paid for the inputs into that field for the year?
Like when the AMERICAN AGRICULTURE MOVEMENT was trying to good prices for the crops! I drove a tractor to Washington D.C. to try to get our government to help the farmers for fair prices, etc.
great video
A bunch around us had river or creek bottom ground government bought it planted trees took that miney and then bid up other ground lost 2 farms that way, sucks got 3000 acre and some got way more, some crp around me was over 300 over 7 years ago, prime ground
Thanks for all the interesting comments. It's was very informative.
William T. Smith, Big Flats, NY farmer, bought a Cadillac in 1961 for $6,100 using money from his farm subsidies. Drove it around campaigning for Sate Senate, won and served for 12 years. Not much changes.
Dad hated fsrm prive supports and farm subsidies way back in the early 60's. Said it was all about control.
Just read that potash prices could double this year year since most is import from Canada. Better buy and store now.
Thanks for the video.
Looks like you need a better shutter system, on the vent fan, in the far wall that’s behind you in the video.
Here’s to a great 2025 for the entire Brown family and crew!
I could be mistaken, but Dad also had to close the dairy we had, 50 cows, because of a surplus of dairy.
Good video.