Experience! Once you get used to the audio, it becomes easier to pinpoint When you show yourself to a Moroi, you can hear a clear increase in speed, whereas the Thaye stays unaffected @@u22tr56
You're the Goat for the game at the end, I was literally just thinking after watching many of these videos how I wished there were some videos out there where we were able to determine for ourselves before the youtuber gave us the answer what we thought the ghost was. Wish you had hundreds of these videos.
Deogens are my favourite for no-evidence runs because they are the best chance for an easy, perfect run. Unless you end up like me and get unlucky when it spawns on top of you. Anyway, here are my test results from the little game at the end of the video (I was typing this while watching). Ghost #1: A Wraith because it didn't step into the salt. Ghost #2: A Hantu because I barely saw the visible breath it left near the end of the hunt. Ghost #3: A Moroi, I always struggle with this one because I always think it's a thaye, but what I should have paid attention to is that they increase their speed the longer they have LOS of you. Ghost #4: An Obake, the cheeky little shapeshifting bugger. Almost didn't notice that because I was watching for potential poltergeist behaviour. Glad I didn't guess Polti then. Ghost #5: Okay, definitely a poltergeist this time. The geezer was lobbing things around like no tomorrow. Well, that was pretty fun.
Same here man! I love the Deogen because this is the only ghost that incentivizes you not to hide. I can’t tell you how boring hiding is in this game because of how redundant it is. Oh a hunt started? Time to go run and hide in the same spot for the 10th time and wait out the timer again… As for the Deogen spawning on top of you, just place salt on all three entrances to the middle back of the two picnic tables. The only ghost that will ever be able to spawn on top of you without you seeing footprints in the salt first will be the Wraith!
Guessing Game 1. Guess: I was very unsure. But in the last moment, before you left to the truck, I saw the crucial evidence. So my guess was correct. ONE POINT 2. Guess: I saw the visible breath of the ghost, but I didn't remember the name. So I had to Google. I count it as NO POINT for me. 3. Guess: Almost no idea. Poltergeist or Twins. But the throws were not that strong for a Poltergeist in my opinion. I count it as NO POINT for me. 4. Guess: Absolutly no idea. NO POINT 5. Guess: Easy! Very obvious evidence. ONE POINT Result: TWO POINTS Nice little game! And thank you for the video. This helps alot to learn the ghosts besser! Awesome!
my guesses at the end and why: 1. wraith ✅ - salt. lol 2. hantu ✅ - i cant tell if i saw breath but i kinda just guessed hantu cus it didnt speed up in LOS 3. moroi ✅ - it was fast already but got faster when it saw you 4. raiju ❌- seemed normal speed to me until it sped up near equipments. COMPLETELY MISSED THE SHAPESHIFT. 5. poltergeist ✅ - guessed raiju first but then payed attention to the throwing nice
I’ve really enjoyed this series and appreciate how much work you’ve put into it. Honestly a must-watch video for anyone wanting to up their Phasmo skills. Straight to the point, excellent editing, and a great set up so you can identify and compare hunt styles in a controlled environment. I loved the pop quiz at the end as well. Keep up the great work!
Beautiful videos man! I really enjoy this kind of content. It's really helpful for everyone. I also like a lot the idea of the little game at the end as I always tried to guess the ghosts before you said them! Keep up the good work!
i need a part 4 :((( demon has been a toughie and would love to see you do more of these with some other varieties and more of the fun after game to try to guess on our own that was fun!
Yeah with demon you’re really having to rely on other giveaways than their hunt behaviour. Assuming you’re on nightmare or doing a hunt only challenge, the only thing I can think of is the reduced cleanse time of 60 seconds compared to the regular 90s of other ghosts or the extended 180s of the spirit.
Great video! ☺️💜 I'm glad they turned Obake back to guaranteed shapeshift once per hunt and not the 6,66% chance 😅 there's a funny soundbug atm revealing the Obake too, some steps are missing. Should soon be fixed though Keep up the great work 💫
Bro, the guessing is actually better because it's a form of practicing without actually getting in the game yourself, so I would love if you make a series where you let us guess first
assuming there was 4, i got 3 correct at the end! even the Moroi I missed to guess in the beginning! Thank you for pointing out it's speed change, since I typically confuse it with Thaye.
Obakes are also easy to identify just by listening to their walking pattern. The way they walk is different from other ghosts. They sound like they walk two steps and then make a pause, and walk other two steps and make another pause. That's also usefull 'cause sometimes they can shape shift when they're blinking and you might not be able to see the shape shifting, but you listen to the way their footsteps sound and tell if it's an obake or not.
I do the same just throw in a crucifix and emf...come in with a smudge salt and lighter.The advantage is crucifix stops instadeath and rules out shade , plus figuring out wraith is easier just put salt down while the ghost is chasing you.
Even tho I just started playing this game I really enjoy watching these plays. Ive watched all 3 of your videos on this and I just have to ask how do u guys always 100% know the type of ghost I sometimes fail to get it right even when I play on amater I have around 25 hrs on this game as of now. Im looking forward to see more of theose videos. Ive also tried this on max difficulty on this map without smudge sticks and guess what happened
If you really want, you can combine the stuff from the ghost journal into a little cheat sheet you keep by your keyboard for when you're learning, that way you don't have to keep flipping through the book page by page. I made a sheet of paper with a bunch of columns for different identification qualities of the ghosts. One column for ghosts that move at a non-normal rate of speed, one column for visibility (more visible, less visible, shapeshift during hunts), one column for special roaming abilities, one column for special sanity hunt levels, and one column for other special abilities that might appear outside of a hunt. After playing a bunch you just memorize all the little details and don't need to look at the sheet any more.
Thank you guys very much I took some of your advice and I started doing the same as in the video and I got from 3k to 3k and to level 30 form 17 in about an hour. Still I fail sometimes but most of the times I get it right. Just started figuring out the game. Once again thank you!I play on same settigns as shown in the descritpion@@Xarvinth
As in general? Just by playing The more actual contracts you do, the more knowledge you accumulate I do not recommend doing this strat if you're new to the game, as you'll be missing out on a bunch of core experience
adding on to that; yeah learning the traits and footsteps of ghosts ruins the creepiness of the game, i am a returning player but I still regret learning this strat a bit lol. thx for the vids tho!@@Xarvinth
Also some more ghosts you can figure out: Phantom - very slow blinking, almost invisible Oni - the exact opposite of the Phantom, very visible The Twins - slightly faster or slower than normal speed ghost Yokai - harder to find you when you are speaking or using equipment
I wish more of the ghosts had identifiable traits because some of them (Mare, Yurei, and Onryo specifically but there’s almost ten of them) are simply impossible to identify under certain conditions. Either that or they take way too much time to figure out. On the other hand you have ghosts like the Hantu that are super obvious for multiple reasons (visible breath, doesn’t speed up when it sees you, and only random speed changer other than the Raiju speeding up next to electronic devices). I only say this because in all four of your videos of doing this camp woodwind strategy, we only see you correctly identifying the same 10 ghosts or so. This is because those are the only ones that are worth identifying. We need some more traits like the ones of those 10. Perhaps a ghost that is the opposite of a Deogen and acts kind of like a Revenant in which it moves super slow from far away but gradually gets faster and faster as it gets closer to you. The Yurei should have another ability as well such as the ability to open and close a door fully multiple times in a row. Since as it stands… it’s most iconic ability is literally something any other ghost can do. Or rather have it speed up next to open doors and slower next to closed ones. Honestly this is the one ghost that could use an entire rework because the door thing is kind of redundant to begin with since all ghosts can do it anyways. Maybe it could be given the ability that’s the opposite of the Deogen as I stated above? Onryos should have another ability as well. Perhaps it could blow out multiple candles at once but move slower near candles during a hunt. Mares should move faster in the dark and slower in the light. Goryos should move slower when starting their hunt since they would rather not leave their place of death but then speed up as they get further away from their favorite room. There’s really endless possibilities that could fix half of the ghosts being so hard to determine for even the most professional players. Because as it stands… the Mare, Shade, Yurei, Goryo, and Onryo are absolutely atrocious to figure out. The Spirit and Demon take way too long to figure out because half of the time you incense a Demon it doesn’t even hunt again for another minute and a half anyways. The banshee only works on multiplayer and if at least two people are alive and in the building, and the Jinn simply doesn’t work if you play with a broken fuse box. If a ghost can only be determined if the fuse box is on, then the option to make the fuse box broken simply shouldn’t be in the game or the ghost needs a rework.
The only one I didn't get right was the Hantu. It was throwing a lot of stuff in the beginning so I thought it was a polter but then it stopped throwing things so much and I'm like, "No I don't think so" but I didn't catch the freezing breath and wasn't paying attention to speed so I ended up guessing polter anyways even though I had my doubts. Also that Obake ALMOST caught me off guard.
I often find myself selecting the wrong ghost, because I missed an out of sync blink, or the 1 shapeshift per hunt, or even the tiny little spec of cold breath Getting every ghost right but one, still shows incredible skill!
If you start with the breaker turned on (it barely drops the xp reward at all) jinn will instantly speed up when it gets line of sight from far away, and instantly slow down to normal speed when it gets close. Onryo and mare you can't really tell on 0 evidence 0 sanity single hunt runs. Yokai is almost impossible because the only way to tell would be if it did its special door touch ability on the front gates without any nearby ghost event.
Jinn would be able to use it's ability if you enable the breaker Mare is impossible and Onryo would require impeccable luck with candles Yurei has an ability to fully close a random nearby door using an event, this includes the front door
This is cool, the only thing i resent is watching a bunch of level 12-60's trying this... its obviously not working for them or they'd be prestige 6 by now.
I have 2 questions Thaye and Moroi, I didn't quite understand the difference between the two, does Moroi get faster when incense is used? And Myling, what sets him apart is that his footsteps are more muffled or the sound of the ghost is quieter? Thank you if you respond, in fact I loved playing the game in the video, I hope you bring more videos like these, it's great for training your perception and ears. _I apologize for my English, as it is not my native language, I am Brazilian._
The primary way to identify Thaye vs Moroi is that the Thaye will never GAIN speed when it sees the player. Most ghosts, when they have line of sight of the player, will start to increase their speed over time, making it nearly impossible to "loop" ghosts around objects, so long as they can see you. The Thaye and some other ghosts will never speed up once they have line of sight, their speed is based on some other factor. Thaye is fast at the start of the mission, and through the course of the contract will slow down as the player spends more and more time near it outside of hunts. (So hang out in the ghost room and thayes will "age", slowing them down.) The Moroi on the other hand is faster when average team sanity is lower. At around 35% average team sanity, the moroi will move at "normal" speed. Anything higher and the moroi will be slower, and anything lower causes the moroi to be faster. However, Moroi ALSO has the line of sight speed increase that most other ghosts have. So if the ghost is really fast (Thaye and Moroi are the only two ghosts that are very quick at the start of the contract), and it also gains speed when it sees you, then it's a Moroi. Another little tip, Thaye will age over the course of the contract, so asking the Ouija board the age of the ghost will give different (older) results when asking a Thaye its age on the board.
The Moroi is fast and will speed up when a player is in line of sight The Thaye is fast, but its speed is fixed and cannot increase (even if the player is in line of sight), it'll only decrease as you age it The Thaye is faster than the Moroi, but once the Moroi hits top speed by following a player, it'll be faster than the Thaye Myling is quiet in both voice and footsteps and you won't really hear it at all, until there's ~12 meters between you
@@Murasame13 Thank you very much, I had a lot of doubts between Moroi and Thaye and it was always difficult for me in 12x to know which one it was, thx!
@@Xarvinth I understand, but is this about Myling very obvious or is it a little difficult to understand? because I have serious problems identifying whether he is very quiet or not, especially if the ghost comes with a low growl.
It might be a hard tell at first All I can recommend is that next time you get a Myling, let it hunt multiple times so that you can get a solid understanding of the audio ranges The normal ghost audio range is 20 meters, so you'd be able to hear the ghost way before your flashlight flickers The electronic interference range sits at 10 meters, so with Myling you'll see interference about the same time, as you hear the ghost, due to the mere 2 meter difference@@TalkingCow95810
Thaye moves at 2.75 m/s and can't speed up Moroi at 0% sanity moves at 2.25 m/s and speeds up to 3.70 m/s when a player is in line of sight Jinn moves at normal speed, unless the player is in line of sight, is far away and the breaker is on, then it moves at 2.5 m/s tldr Thaye is faster than the Moroi, until the player is in los, then the Moroi is faster than the Thaye Jinn requires a bunch of prerequisites to even speed up
Mimic will have an orb, if you're lucky spotting it on the main cam Yokai is mostly deaf, so you can be as loud as you want as long as it's >2.5 meters away from you (it won't find you 'til then) Yurei you can't tell on this difficulty, it may fully close the front door using an event, but I've found it unreliable
On this difficulty, those are sadly next to impossible Yurei may occasionally shut the front door, using an event Goryo rarely leaves its room, but this difficulty has a high room change probability Onryo, firelight works like Crucifixes, but it'd be tough to pull off, as you kind of need to be in the same room Jinn requires the breaker to be on, for you to be in line of sight AND to be far away, before you can tell it's a Jinn by its speed With this difficulty, there's a bunch of Ghosts you sadly just have to guess your way to
Jinn instantly speeds up to 2,7m/s in line of sight, if the breaker is on and slows down to the normal 1,7m/s in your range (3m). But with breaker off there's also just guessing with the other ghosts. I "love" that I mostly get them with this kind of runs 😂
I have learned to make the cheese sandwich and I must show great appriciation to your teachings, but I must request another teaching from your infinite knowledge, how does one cook chicken breasts?
Depends on how you want your chicken! It can be made in a variety of ways Like, there's pan fried chicken, baked, poached, roasted and even deep-fried chicken! If you feel real spicy, I suppose you can make casseroled chicken Let that chicken imagination run wild
Game 1: wraith because it didn't disturbed the salt Game 2: hantu because the breath Game 3: Moroi because its fast and when on line of sight, she haves a slightly increase in the speed Game 4:Obake because he shapeshifted Game 5: Poltergeist because he was throwing everything with a big strength
i got the poltergeist correct after guessing polter wrong like 3 times xD, didn't see the shapeshift, not touching salt, breath cloud and thought the one that was and stayed fast was a thaye, not a moroi i believe it was ? ... so ig i'm happy to play with a mate whos better at this lmao
Some people are able to figure out yokais and I still don't know how they do it. I know it's something to do with the detection radius of your voice or something but it always seems like even if it is a yokai it'll hear me like every other ghost.
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what the range sits at, I just know it's more than 2.5, and the range that I recalled at the time was roughly 6+ meters @KyraMoonspell
@Xarvinth oh I see. Current going through the prestige levels and I'm only prestige 7 right now and this shits driving me absolutely crazy I'm about to need my own sanity pills irl
I haven't grinded nearly as much I was level 953 before the update, so I started on prestige one I plan to just hit 90 and keep it at that (I personally see no reason to prestige)@@raze1669
Yeah, it'll eventually come with experience! I'm still not completely set on speeds and all that myself, I used to play super casually until this video series blew up lmao@@MarcSy
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I hope you guys enjoyed and had some fun with the little game at the end!
If you have any questions, feel free to ask :)
how do you know its moroi?
At 0% sanity, the Moroi starts fast and speeds up further when it knows the players location@@TomaszTimas
how do u find the difference between a morio and thaye using its footsteps and speed
@@Xarvinth
Experience! Once you get used to the audio, it becomes easier to pinpoint
When you show yourself to a Moroi, you can hear a clear increase in speed, whereas the Thaye stays unaffected @@u22tr56
Ty
not gonna lie this video is best ever helpful learns different ghost types
That hantu at 10:05 was chucking stuff like a polter
This has to be the best and simplest tutorial to see the difference between the ghosts. Thank you.
You're the Goat for the game at the end, I was literally just thinking after watching many of these videos how I wished there were some videos out there where we were able to determine for ourselves before the youtuber gave us the answer what we thought the ghost was. Wish you had hundreds of these videos.
Deogens are my favourite for no-evidence runs because they are the best chance for an easy, perfect run. Unless you end up like me and get unlucky when it spawns on top of you.
Anyway, here are my test results from the little game at the end of the video (I was typing this while watching).
Ghost #1: A Wraith because it didn't step into the salt.
Ghost #2: A Hantu because I barely saw the visible breath it left near the end of the hunt.
Ghost #3: A Moroi, I always struggle with this one because I always think it's a thaye, but what I should have paid attention to is that they increase their speed the longer they have LOS of you.
Ghost #4: An Obake, the cheeky little shapeshifting bugger. Almost didn't notice that because I was watching for potential poltergeist behaviour. Glad I didn't guess Polti then.
Ghost #5: Okay, definitely a poltergeist this time. The geezer was lobbing things around like no tomorrow.
Well, that was pretty fun.
Another great thing about Moroi vs thaye.. Moroi smudge staggers them for much longer than any ghost.
@@MindoftheAbyss Oh yeah, so they do, I had forgotten about that, cheers for pointing that out.
Obake has some random silent footsteps too btw
i got hantu because it was slightly slower and it didnt speed up with LOS
Same here man! I love the Deogen because this is the only ghost that incentivizes you not to hide. I can’t tell you how boring hiding is in this game because of how redundant it is. Oh a hunt started? Time to go run and hide in the same spot for the 10th time and wait out the timer again…
As for the Deogen spawning on top of you, just place salt on all three entrances to the middle back of the two picnic tables. The only ghost that will ever be able to spawn on top of you without you seeing footprints in the salt first will be the Wraith!
Great content but also really like the idea of the "let's play a game" at the end. I think it could be a great series!
Guessing Game
1. Guess: I was very unsure. But in the last moment, before you left to the truck, I saw the crucial evidence. So my guess was correct. ONE POINT
2. Guess: I saw the visible breath of the ghost, but I didn't remember the name. So I had to Google. I count it as NO POINT for me.
3. Guess: Almost no idea. Poltergeist or Twins. But the throws were not that strong for a Poltergeist in my opinion. I count it as NO POINT for me.
4. Guess: Absolutly no idea. NO POINT
5. Guess: Easy! Very obvious evidence. ONE POINT
Result: TWO POINTS
Nice little game! And thank you for the video. This helps alot to learn the ghosts besser! Awesome!
my guesses at the end and why:
1. wraith ✅ - salt. lol
2. hantu ✅ - i cant tell if i saw breath but i kinda just guessed hantu cus it didnt speed up in LOS
3. moroi ✅ - it was fast already but got faster when it saw you
4. raiju ❌- seemed normal speed to me until it sped up near equipments. COMPLETELY MISSED THE SHAPESHIFT.
5. poltergeist ✅ - guessed raiju first but then payed attention to the throwing
nice
This Tutorial is the best one ive ever had. straight to the Point. good explained and you even gave us a chance to test our knowledge 10/10
I’ve really enjoyed this series and appreciate how much work you’ve put into it. Honestly a must-watch video for anyone wanting to up their Phasmo skills. Straight to the point, excellent editing, and a great set up so you can identify and compare hunt styles in a controlled environment. I loved the pop quiz at the end as well. Keep up the great work!
Beautiful videos man! I really enjoy this kind of content. It's really helpful for everyone. I also like a lot the idea of the little game at the end as I always tried to guess the ghosts before you said them! Keep up the good work!
These videos that you make are soo helpful, and the game at the end is just a bonus. Really good work!
Thanks for these videos, both you and Insym!
After grinding the past weekend, I've reached level 90, with full tier 3 items!
Very helpfull for new and returning players, thanks for making these kind of videos.
i need a part 4 :((( demon has been a toughie and would love to see you do more of these with some other varieties and more of the fun after game to try to guess on our own that was fun!
Yeah with demon you’re really having to rely on other giveaways than their hunt behaviour. Assuming you’re on nightmare or doing a hunt only challenge, the only thing I can think of is the reduced cleanse time of 60 seconds compared to the regular 90s of other ghosts or the extended 180s of the spirit.
nice video bro, i really like that content, it helps so much in phasmophobia
Now this would be the content I desire, thank you kindly, good sir.
Perfect perfect perfect pls continue like this the last part was absolutely epic
Great video! ☺️💜 I'm glad they turned Obake back to guaranteed shapeshift once per hunt and not the 6,66% chance 😅 there's a funny soundbug atm revealing the Obake too, some steps are missing. Should soon be fixed though
Keep up the great work 💫
It is still 6.66%, but it's forced to happen at least once
already patched :')
Your videos are really helpful for new player i really like your content keep it up!
I really like this video and series. I want more of them
Helps me better than verbal explanations, love practicing this way👏
Bro, the guessing is actually better because it's a form of practicing without actually getting in the game yourself, so I would love if you make a series where you let us guess first
facts
yo i found out about you in today’s morning and been waiting for your part 3, it was fast tho
also i scored 2 points teehee
assuming there was 4, i got 3 correct at the end!
even the Moroi I missed to guess in the beginning! Thank you for pointing out it's speed change, since I typically confuse it with Thaye.
Anyone saw "YEET" when the poltergeist was throwing things 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 2:38
Nice video for the tips! Helps out very much! Appreciate it as I’m deciding to come back to Phasmophobia
Dude I got all ghost correctly and becuz of you... I level up from 18 to 56 in one day.... ❤
Me and my buddy are trying to learn to do this and these videos have been the most helpful things ever
Also, 3/5 we take those
Obakes are also easy to identify just by listening to their walking pattern. The way they walk is different from other ghosts. They sound like they walk two steps and then make a pause, and walk other two steps and make another pause. That's also usefull 'cause sometimes they can shape shift when they're blinking and you might not be able to see the shape shifting, but you listen to the way their footsteps sound and tell if it's an obake or not.
I was told it's been fixed or at least is going to be (it wasn't fixed at upload date, which is why I noted footsteps in the video)
I absolutely love these videos, ty so much dude
last part of the vid was great training
Plates:"I believe i can fly"
I do the same just throw in a crucifix and emf...come in with a smudge salt and lighter.The advantage is crucifix stops instadeath and rules out shade , plus figuring out wraith is easier just put salt down while the ghost is chasing you.
thanks for make the part 3
really good videos keep going
Even tho I just started playing this game I really enjoy watching these plays. Ive watched all 3 of your videos on this and I just have to ask how do u guys always 100% know the type of ghost I sometimes fail to get it right even when I play on amater I have around 25 hrs on this game as of now. Im looking forward to see more of theose videos.
Ive also tried this on max difficulty on this map without smudge sticks and guess what happened
It all comes with experience, I have about 230 hours in this game and have played on and off since it came out
If you really want, you can combine the stuff from the ghost journal into a little cheat sheet you keep by your keyboard for when you're learning, that way you don't have to keep flipping through the book page by page.
I made a sheet of paper with a bunch of columns for different identification qualities of the ghosts. One column for ghosts that move at a non-normal rate of speed, one column for visibility (more visible, less visible, shapeshift during hunts), one column for special roaming abilities, one column for special sanity hunt levels, and one column for other special abilities that might appear outside of a hunt.
After playing a bunch you just memorize all the little details and don't need to look at the sheet any more.
Thank you guys very much I took some of your advice and I started doing the same as in the video and I got from 3k to 3k and to level 30 form 17 in about an hour. Still I fail sometimes but most of the times I get it right. Just started figuring out the game. Once again thank you!I play on same settigns as shown in the descritpion@@Xarvinth
Make more of these vids, I do actually learn from this
Got em all) glad that all 5 of them was not something like goryo
Good stuff!
It'd be incredibly unfair of me to use a ghost that has no hunt defining traits, yeah
Ayyy part 3, nice stuff
Any tips for learning the ghosts traits?
As in general? Just by playing
The more actual contracts you do, the more knowledge you accumulate
I do not recommend doing this strat if you're new to the game, as you'll be missing out on a bunch of core experience
@@Xarvinth gotcha! Thanks!
adding on to that; yeah learning the traits and footsteps of ghosts ruins the creepiness of the game, i am a returning player but I still regret learning this strat a bit lol. thx for the vids tho!@@Xarvinth
More of this pls
I got them all except moroi cuz it just didn't really sound THAT fast. It was fast sure but feel like morois are typically faster
Hey Xarv! I just recently played with you last night, we did this, was really fun! will try this on my own!
Are you sure it was me in your lobby last night? Last time I played a co-op game was last week haha
morois always throw me off
You’re the best and you deserve a lot of subs ❤️
Not going to lie guessed all of them except Hantu, can't see breath in that fog on a vid :c. But you helped me a lot to learn them ghosts.
I’m finna have prestige 22 Level 57,381 with this one 🗿
Also some more ghosts you can figure out:
Phantom - very slow blinking, almost invisible
Oni - the exact opposite of the Phantom, very visible
The Twins - slightly faster or slower than normal speed ghost
Yokai - harder to find you when you are speaking or using equipment
I wish more of the ghosts had identifiable traits because some of them (Mare, Yurei, and Onryo specifically but there’s almost ten of them) are simply impossible to identify under certain conditions. Either that or they take way too much time to figure out. On the other hand you have ghosts like the Hantu that are super obvious for multiple reasons (visible breath, doesn’t speed up when it sees you, and only random speed changer other than the Raiju speeding up next to electronic devices). I only say this because in all four of your videos of doing this camp woodwind strategy, we only see you correctly identifying the same 10 ghosts or so. This is because those are the only ones that are worth identifying. We need some more traits like the ones of those 10.
Perhaps a ghost that is the opposite of a Deogen and acts kind of like a Revenant in which it moves super slow from far away but gradually gets faster and faster as it gets closer to you.
The Yurei should have another ability as well such as the ability to open and close a door fully multiple times in a row. Since as it stands… it’s most iconic ability is literally something any other ghost can do. Or rather have it speed up next to open doors and slower next to closed ones. Honestly this is the one ghost that could use an entire rework because the door thing is kind of redundant to begin with since all ghosts can do it anyways. Maybe it could be given the ability that’s the opposite of the Deogen as I stated above?
Onryos should have another ability as well. Perhaps it could blow out multiple candles at once but move slower near candles during a hunt.
Mares should move faster in the dark and slower in the light.
Goryos should move slower when starting their hunt since they would rather not leave their place of death but then speed up as they get further away from their favorite room.
There’s really endless possibilities that could fix half of the ghosts being so hard to determine for even the most professional players. Because as it stands… the Mare, Shade, Yurei, Goryo, and Onryo are absolutely atrocious to figure out. The Spirit and Demon take way too long to figure out because half of the time you incense a Demon it doesn’t even hunt again for another minute and a half anyways. The banshee only works on multiplayer and if at least two people are alive and in the building, and the Jinn simply doesn’t work if you play with a broken fuse box. If a ghost can only be determined if the fuse box is on, then the option to make the fuse box broken simply shouldn’t be in the game or the ghost needs a rework.
It's embarrassing but I died from a Deogen because I was too focused on taking a picture for extra money that I ended up stuck somewhere.
Don't you worry, I lost my (at the time 24x) to a Deogen, cus I was busy screaming for help
I had the bugger spawn on top of me while I was playing no evidence run last night, I should've not been so cocky lol.
love your vids man
i love your channel
MY GOAT IS BACK
The only one I didn't get right was the Hantu. It was throwing a lot of stuff in the beginning so I thought it was a polter but then it stopped throwing things so much and I'm like, "No I don't think so" but I didn't catch the freezing breath and wasn't paying attention to speed so I ended up guessing polter anyways even though I had my doubts. Also that Obake ALMOST caught me off guard.
I often find myself selecting the wrong ghost, because I missed an out of sync blink, or the 1 shapeshift per hunt, or even the tiny little spec of cold breath
Getting every ghost right but one, still shows incredible skill!
yo nice vids, is there any behaviours to identify "normal" ghosts like jinn, yurei, onryo or mare?
If you start with the breaker turned on (it barely drops the xp reward at all) jinn will instantly speed up when it gets line of sight from far away, and instantly slow down to normal speed when it gets close. Onryo and mare you can't really tell on 0 evidence 0 sanity single hunt runs. Yokai is almost impossible because the only way to tell would be if it did its special door touch ability on the front gates without any nearby ghost event.
Jinn would be able to use it's ability if you enable the breaker
Mare is impossible and Onryo would require impeccable luck with candles
Yurei has an ability to fully close a random nearby door using an event, this includes the front door
@@Xarvinth right, so guessing is what I do in those cases. thank you!
Yeah, just under half of the ghosts requires you to guess on this difficulty@@rToby
@Toby-fj3rn or you do the same on tanglewood and can find them all without evidence. Yurei and mare remain a pain...
Legend part 3
ty so much, i love ur videos and chanell
This is cool, the only thing i resent is watching a bunch of level 12-60's trying this... its obviously not working for them or they'd be prestige 6 by now.
You should include some phantom and Oni games, I really struggle to notice the Oni flashing compared to a normal ghost flashing
Yeah I plan to, I just simply haven't had any during these challenges
3 points. I got the wraith obake and poltergeist. I couldn't see the hantus breath on my small screen and i just suck at figuring out the moroi.
Why did you put motion sensor in some of your runs?
Also I love the part when viewer can guess the ghost
To see if the ghost would roam to me, doubles down for Raiju testing
I got the wraith hantu
missed the moroi thought it was a raiju
but got the obake and the poltergist
4/5 could'v been 5/5 sadge
Because of this vid. I'd rather to grind on this mode
can't figure the moroi but others was correct, but most, normal speed ghots are hard to find
I got the Hantu and the Poltergeist at the end
I have 2 questions
Thaye and Moroi, I didn't quite understand the difference between the two, does Moroi get faster when incense is used?
And Myling, what sets him apart is that his footsteps are more muffled or the sound of the ghost is quieter?
Thank you if you respond, in fact I loved playing the game in the video, I hope you bring more videos like these, it's great for training your perception and ears.
_I apologize for my English, as it is not my native language, I am Brazilian._
The primary way to identify Thaye vs Moroi is that the Thaye will never GAIN speed when it sees the player.
Most ghosts, when they have line of sight of the player, will start to increase their speed over time, making it nearly impossible to "loop" ghosts around objects, so long as they can see you. The Thaye and some other ghosts will never speed up once they have line of sight, their speed is based on some other factor.
Thaye is fast at the start of the mission, and through the course of the contract will slow down as the player spends more and more time near it outside of hunts. (So hang out in the ghost room and thayes will "age", slowing them down.)
The Moroi on the other hand is faster when average team sanity is lower. At around 35% average team sanity, the moroi will move at "normal" speed. Anything higher and the moroi will be slower, and anything lower causes the moroi to be faster. However, Moroi ALSO has the line of sight speed increase that most other ghosts have.
So if the ghost is really fast (Thaye and Moroi are the only two ghosts that are very quick at the start of the contract), and it also gains speed when it sees you, then it's a Moroi.
Another little tip, Thaye will age over the course of the contract, so asking the Ouija board the age of the ghost will give different (older) results when asking a Thaye its age on the board.
The Moroi is fast and will speed up when a player is in line of sight
The Thaye is fast, but its speed is fixed and cannot increase (even if the player is in line of sight), it'll only decrease as you age it
The Thaye is faster than the Moroi, but once the Moroi hits top speed by following a player, it'll be faster than the Thaye
Myling is quiet in both voice and footsteps and you won't really hear it at all, until there's ~12 meters between you
@@Murasame13 Thank you very much, I had a lot of doubts between Moroi and Thaye and it was always difficult for me in 12x to know which one it was, thx!
@@Xarvinth I understand, but is this about Myling very obvious or is it a little difficult to understand? because I have serious problems identifying whether he is very quiet or not, especially if the ghost comes with a low growl.
It might be a hard tell at first
All I can recommend is that next time you get a Myling, let it hunt multiple times so that you can get a solid understanding of the audio ranges
The normal ghost audio range is 20 meters, so you'd be able to hear the ghost way before your flashlight flickers
The electronic interference range sits at 10 meters, so with Myling you'll see interference about the same time, as you hear the ghost, due to the mere 2 meter difference@@TalkingCow95810
4/5 i did thaye at moroi
But ur videos helped me so much ty
Hell yeah!
Those Morois can be a pain, yeah, sometimes I struggle with em too
Whats the difference with moroi thaye and jinn cause im having some troubles with it
Thaye moves at 2.75 m/s and can't speed up
Moroi at 0% sanity moves at 2.25 m/s and speeds up to 3.70 m/s when a player is in line of sight
Jinn moves at normal speed, unless the player is in line of sight, is far away and the breaker is on, then it moves at 2.5 m/s
tldr
Thaye is faster than the Moroi, until the player is in los, then the Moroi is faster than the Thaye
Jinn requires a bunch of prerequisites to even speed up
Thanks
This stuff is useful but what should i look for when facing other ghosts like Yurei, Yokai, Mimic,...
Mimic will have an orb, if you're lucky spotting it on the main cam
Yokai is mostly deaf, so you can be as loud as you want as long as it's >2.5 meters away from you (it won't find you 'til then)
Yurei you can't tell on this difficulty, it may fully close the front door using an event, but I've found it unreliable
How do you know its normal sleed because i cant tell if its normal speed becuase ot sounds faster.
You get used to the sound of the footsteps after playing for a while
I know because I've played for a good amount of hours
How do you get Ghosts like Jinn, Yurei, Goryo and Onryo correct ?
On this difficulty, those are sadly next to impossible
Yurei may occasionally shut the front door, using an event
Goryo rarely leaves its room, but this difficulty has a high room change probability
Onryo, firelight works like Crucifixes, but it'd be tough to pull off, as you kind of need to be in the same room
Jinn requires the breaker to be on, for you to be in line of sight AND to be far away, before you can tell it's a Jinn by its speed
With this difficulty, there's a bunch of Ghosts you sadly just have to guess your way to
@@Xarvinth well that's just painful since 70% of the time I encounter just these Ghosts but thanks for the info really appreciate it
@@AhmedHShoeir i have the same problem, it seriously seems as though the chance for me to get these ghosts is increased when doing these runs..
@@fiber9922 it's really frustrating xD
Jinn instantly speeds up to 2,7m/s in line of sight, if the breaker is on and slows down to the normal 1,7m/s in your range (3m). But with breaker off there's also just guessing with the other ghosts. I "love" that I mostly get them with this kind of runs 😂
yo i had a question, how much fps do you 5hink i will get with a Intel UHd graphics card and intel i5 10210 something cpu
That's sadly outside of my expertise, but my guess would be 60+
@@XarvinthOh, I see.
I got all the ghost’s except the hantu didn’t see the breath right before it blinked the hunt away
how often do you get a ghost you cant guess based off the hunt?
About 50% of the time
Clarification: They have now fixed the Obake missing footstep audio!
The Obake clip was recorded today, so either the patch didn't go live, or it's somehow bugged
average phasmo update @@Xarvinth
i just checked, they indeed fixed it in the patch notes. might be bugged lol@@Xarvinth
It's a weird thing to fix tho, imo
I thought it fit the ghost perfectly@@xdYama
@@Xarvinthit was apperantly a bug haha
I have learned to make the cheese sandwich and I must show great appriciation to your teachings, but I must request another teaching from your infinite knowledge, how does one cook chicken breasts?
Depends on how you want your chicken!
It can be made in a variety of ways
Like, there's pan fried chicken, baked, poached, roasted and even deep-fried chicken! If you feel real spicy, I suppose you can make casseroled chicken
Let that chicken imagination run wild
first 3 ghost you got: mori,obake,wraith
first 3 ghost i got :mare,shade,banshee
we need part 4 asap
What’s the weather you gotta put this on? I’ve tried and it’s never this clear
Also thanks for this series! Glad I stumbled onto this right at the start of the new patch/my intro to the game!
Weather I use is fog!
If you die with fog on, you have to run a contract with any other weather to reset it, as it bugs out
Ahhhh thank you for the quick response - going to try now! @@Xarvinth
I did last 2 😂
Game 1: wraith because it didn't disturbed the salt
Game 2: hantu because the breath
Game 3: Moroi because its fast and when on line of sight, she haves a slightly increase in the speed
Game 4:Obake because he shapeshifted
Game 5: Poltergeist because he was throwing everything with a big strength
I guessed 3/5 bc i didnt look at hantu breath and forgot abt moroi speed when u have low sanity
i got the poltergeist correct after guessing polter wrong like 3 times xD, didn't see the shapeshift, not touching salt, breath cloud and thought the one that was and stayed fast was a thaye, not a moroi i believe it was ? ... so ig i'm happy to play with a mate whos better at this lmao
Tips on a Mare Ghost?
Mare is a traitless ghosts and therefore can't be guessed on hunts alone
@@Xarvinth What about oni?
Banshee, Demon, Goryo, Jinn, Mare, Oni, Onryo, Spirit and Yurei will be near, if not impossible to tell with these settings@@Oaitain
3.
Moroi is easy one
Obake i nearly mistaken it with hantu but i noticed the early shapeshift
And polter with that strong yeet
Some people are able to figure out yokais and I still don't know how they do it. I know it's something to do with the detection radius of your voice or something but it always seems like even if it is a yokai it'll hear me like every other ghost.
Every ghosts hearing radius is ~6 meters
Yokai is ~2.5 meters
@@Xarvinth that ~6 might just be a typo, normal hearing radius is 9 meters xD
Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what the range sits at, I just know it's more than 2.5, and the range that I recalled at the time was roughly 6+ meters @KyraMoonspell
@Xarvinth oh I see. Current going through the prestige levels and I'm only prestige 7 right now and this shits driving me absolutely crazy I'm about to need my own sanity pills irl
I haven't grinded nearly as much
I was level 953 before the update, so I started on prestige one
I plan to just hit 90 and keep it at that (I personally see no reason to prestige)@@raze1669
why don’t you use lv2 smudge stick?
I prefer to keep the ghost moving at its regular pace at all times
I have a queation. How do you know if its a demon or mare ?
You sadly cannot tell those on this difficulty
4 points only , really having a hard time on the moroi
how come you never get Yurei, Mare, Onryo, Banshee, The Mimic and The Twins ?
I do, I get traitless ghosts about 50% of the time
Still haven't seen Twins, Phantom and Oni somehow
whats your world settings
Everything is in the description!
Bro how would u figure out Goryo and Yurei??
On this difficulty, you simply do not
Yurei might shut the front door using an event, but that's all
does the ghost ever hunt while you are trying to leave?
No, there's a 20-25 second cooldown in between hunts, if I'm not mistaken
Still having a hard time with the Moroi >.>
All it takes is a bit of practice
What is it about the Moroi that's giving you a tough time?
@@Xarvinth Agree! Its like a diet version of the Revenant but my ears are having a hard time picking it up.
Yeah, it'll eventually come with experience!
I'm still not completely set on speeds and all that myself, I used to play super casually until this video series blew up lmao@@MarcSy
@@Xarvinth I don't know man, you make it look too easy XD Thank you so much for this!
yo bro can i play few games with you to learn bcs you know so much about this game >D
I've had a handful of people ask, so I plan to host a lobby sometime, when I'm not as busy
@@Xarvinth what about creating a discord :D
What is the shapeshift?
An ability tied to the Obake
It will randomly switch to a different model during hunts and can perform unique UV evidence
I cant see the breath from hantu
How do you know?
You can see breath as it runs towards me, and once again when it reaches the benches
The clearest one would be at 10:10 when I face the tent
What about the other ghost types????
Which ones? I've covered all but two ghosts that have hunting traits in this video series
@@Xarvinth oh I see. Ghosts like the mare or goryo don’t have hunting traits?
Oh my bad I just saw you uploaded part 4
All good man
If you do have any questions, feel free to ask!@@ferencs.harmat7049
I only got 1 wrong which was Moroai