$649 INJECTION & Casting System for 3D Printers
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- We build an injection system and a different workflow for all makers. Now you can produce wide variety of different parts with your 3D Printer without size restrictions.
kickstarter page: www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
Flovv Desktop Injection System, Starting $649
Flovv-e 2 in 1(FDM printer with Injection System), Starting $2799
How it works: neckog.com/how-it-works/
It's not closed material. You can use your own resins too.
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Flovv Specs:
Flow: 1 kg/mins at highest setting on Rigid Material
Adjustable Flow
15sec Cleaning Sequence
2x 1 Gallon Component Tanks
In Tank Mixer for Color Change and Mixing Before Injection
1 Gallon Cleaning Fluid Tank
Device Size
Width:455mm
Depth: 305mm
Height: 6200mm
Weight:10kgs
Electrical: 110VAC/22VAC 1kW (max)
Materials: Rigid, Flexible(5 shore A,20 shore A, 50 shore A), Rigid Foam, Flexible Foam(Coming Soon)
Accessories
Mold Release
Mold Prying Tools
5x spare Nozzles
Flovv-e Specs:
Build Volume: 12”x12”x16”
oversized print bed to reduce warping on full plate builds
Chassis: Stainless steel and aluminium
Printing Speed: 300mm/s
HGX Extruder
Device Size
Width:770mm
Depth: 550mm
Height: 860mm
Weight:55kg
Electrical Consumption: 110VAC/22VAC 1.5kW(max)
All of our chemicals are US made. Flovv and Flovv-e is engineered and manufactured in US.
0:00 Intro
0:42 What is Reaction Injection Molding?
1:20 How did we do it?
1:35 Injection System
1:56 Color Change/Accessories
2:06 Cleaning System
3:10 Rigid Material
3:26 Overmolding
3:55 Structural RIM
4:18 Flexible Part
4:41 Foam
5:02 DaaS
5:20 Flovv-e
5:44 Outro
#3dprinting #polyurethane #moldingmaking #casting #injectionmolding 
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You are not limited to using only Neckog materials for either device. Simply provide us with the name of the material you wish to use, and we will send you a calibrated flow file for it.
You have the freedom to design the molds and manufacture them from any material(silicone, aluminium) of your choice.
DaaS is designed for those who prefer not to handle the process themselves, and with prices starting at just $4.99 per mold, it's an incredibly affordable option.
would it be able to utilize Smooth-On urethanes and silicones?
@@phillipwilson8429 Smooth-on and polytek polyurethanes yes. We are working on silicones.
The audio killed my ears
I can't understand a word, and the CC's aren't working. I guess the AI couldn't understand him either.
We fixed the subtitles. Audio will be fixed on the next one.
This is really cool. Definitely want to see more, especially start to finish
Definitely we will be sharing a lot on this channel.
@@NeckogIndustries looking forward to it. Subbed
WOW! Great work guys! I will be waiting for real world reviews, but I will definitely buy a couple if they work as well as you say.
Cool device. I hope the production and KS campaign goes smoothly for you.
Hopefully they find the time to answer the many questions.
Would i be able to use this with prints from my sla printer ?
Im intrigued. This mimics a lot of my workflow. I just dont really understand it yet. So its a FDM printer alright. Plus a mixing and injection system for thermoset resins. But how does this workflow actually benefit me? As far as explained, i still have to manually prep the mold surfaces, and manually inject the resin. Other than a static mixer being integrated, i dont see the benefit yet. Could you do a more indepth video of the actual casting workflow?
AWESOME! 🤯🤯😍😍
what is the difference from just buying a 2 part epoxy and casting it in a 3d printed mold?
less mess I figure
Hopefully hassle free bubble free end product…not very clear whats going on.
Wait, I thought this was abs/ASA injector. Resin?
My thoughts exactly. It seems to have a pressurized injection system, but in reality mold design itself is the most important factor. To my understanding this product is really niche for people doing 10-50 Part runs. FDM printed molds dont really last much longer than that, and for lower part count i can just mix the resin by hand and pour it.
@@RaphMNTR I agree, I have my doubts for viability. The 3D printer they are showing and printed results have layer lines that really shows at a distance on camera. The quality of prints or how reliable the printer is questionable given how performing the last generation of printers are. I’m guessing the printer has both process in the one box (system on the side) Didn’t watch all their videos. There are some good DYI injection kits that can be build and reuse old 3D printer parts instead of sending those old printers to the graveyard. I have my reservation on the release mold getting rid of the printer’s layer lines without going to great effort.
Please show a full demonstration of the process
I need to know more about yours materials , the "rigid resin" for example is like ABS? ASA? Nylon?
Rigid is very close to ABS. There has been a lot of comments about this we will take all into consideration on the following videos.
Think about PC like resin.
very cool! would love something like this for making flexible toys
like, made with silicone amiright 😏
Why? 😄
@@acolyte8564 would save a bunch of time by auto mixing all the materials and dispensing without having to clean or throw away tons of containers etc
Hi nice product, i'd like to use this machine to overmold some rubber parts over CF plates, the mixing ratio is not exactly 1:1, but more likely 60:40, would it be possible to tune in a different mixing ratio?
Depends on the viscosity profile of the resin but its possible. Calibrating to different resins is something we will be doing. It's not going to be just our resins.
As an engineer I would have to say this would be a tough product to deliver. How do you handle cutting excess material?
I second that . I would like for them show us the machine working . Also if it clogs, that'd a big issue.
Woooow ! I want i want i want ! Liked and subbed :)
Things that are missing, that were just glossed over: Just send you the part to design the mold? 1.) How much does this design process cost? 2.)Can we design our own mold and how? 3.) If we have to go through your company to design the mold, is shipping included? 4.) What are the consumer facing material properties for each of the resins; for example is there a UV resistant one similar to ASA, is there a impact resistant one similar to ABS/ASA, is there a food safe one similar to PETG/PLA(when made correctly). Is there a high strength one similar to PLA and PC, is there a high temp one similar to ABS/ASA/PC?
Thank you for the questions. These shape the future videos.
1. Design is going to be per mold based starting from $4.99. 2. You can certainly design your mold. We will be sharing a lot on how to design for different materials and different applications on this channel. It will start with 2 part molds and at the first video 3. We don't offer manufacturing of the molds. Its just a service we provide so that people can streamline their process. 4. There will be UV resistant resins we offer, our rigid material is fairly similar to injection molded ABS. 3D printed parts aren't isotropic although the numbers on papers are high. In real world use thats not the case because of the layered structure of 3D printing. There will be no food safe material on polyurethane line-up. If we can get our system to use platinum cure silicones or special resins but before that there are a lot of materials to offer. Like earlier its generally much durable than 3d printed alternatives we will release data sheets on every material. Yes there will be polyurethanes for higher temperatures currently Glass transition of Base Rigid is 167 F or 75 C.
@@NeckogIndustries let me follow up on the Daas questions. Is there any limitation to the size, for example can a 3d model of a sword be submitted? Will you be able to request only single part molds or could you request gang molds? Does the service have a buy in if we do not kickstart the Flovv and are just interested in the molding service? Do your materials only work with the Flovv or can they be hand mixed and poured. Is degassing of your polyeurathane compound needed?
@@kineticentertainment2638 DaaS has no limitation with size but models has to be step files. Yes a 3D model of a sword can be submitted.At the beginning DaaS will be for our customers only once we think we can handle more it will be available to everyone.(no buy in needed). You can mix materials by hand. Hand mixing introduces air bubbles into the material. Hence if you are mixing by hand degassing is needed. Injecting with machine makes for a much better end product. If you are using the machine degassing is not needed. If the component requires shake before use we have an in tank mixer which does it for you.
Usually when casting resin you use a pressure chamber. How is it bubble free?
Good question. There are three main reasons for bubbles in urethane resins:
Moisture: Urethane resins are very sensitive to moisture. Our system engages the tanks only when the system is in use to minimize exposure to moisture.
Hand Mixing: When mixing by hand, it’s difficult to avoid introducing air into the resin unless you mix under vacuum conditions. Using mixer nozzles ensures that the two components are mixed without aeration.
Injection/Casting Process: Pouring the resin steadily and slowly is crucial. With an adjustable flow setting, you can control the amount of material being dispensed, reducing the risk of bubbles.
What material would you ned to 3d print the mold? PLA, PetG, ASA?
If the part is thin any material works. If its thicker due to exothermic reaction of the resin setting we suggest ABS or PetG.
Im interested in injection molding silicone parts. Food grade and nonfood grade. This is possible on the flovv? Do we have to use the exact materials your company provides? And just to confirm again, are the molds required to be aluminum or stainless steel?
This one has been asked over the emails too. Right now not possible but we are working on it. You can use readily available resins. Before doing so we just ask to give us the name so that we can update our material profile. Different resins have different viscosity profiles. Mold can be anything you readily use. We did develop a mold release to use directly 3d printed molds from ABS,PLA or Resin printed molds. Also for aluminium or silicone you can use off the shelf mold releases too.
@@NeckogIndustries Gotcha. Thank you for the reply
how many times can you use the 3D printed part to cast a part before it starts wear out?
We tested it over 30 times(showed no wear). The weak point tends to be the assembly points of mold parts.
That’s not injection molding dude. That’s just regular casting 😂
Im not clear on what each box does. Is one an FDM printer? The smaller one is an injection machine, sort of a press that holds the mold shut withbpressure and then i jects the part? We need a demo of a regid part and a flexible part. Show us the lapsed time, the prep and process and post processing.
Next video will be from start to finish whole process. Big one is 2in1 FDM printer with a injection system. Smaller one is only Injection System. Molds are either clamped or screwed together. Seamlines are taped.
@@NeckogIndustries great looking forward to that video.
Same
Please ensure much, much better sound than on this video
This is awesome. With the wire edm, the desktop sla printer and now this I am loving how fast the advancements in 3d printing has been this year! So many really cool things showing up cant wait to see more of this I am especially excited about the foam aspects for rc planes.
Are the molds able to be made with a hollow center?
This isn't 3D printing, this is just your regular polyurethane resin casting, you can 3D print or CNC the molds yourself and buy the poly resins in bulk at cheaper prices already. So far I haven't seen anything here that is new or an improvement over existing workflows.
Would like a better idea of cost to run - like cost of consumables, and the range of costs for the injection materials (I can't imagine $12/kg is across the board) as well as cost for the mold release. Also if there are going to be geographic related issues on where the resins can be shipped, shipping costs... all adds up really quick.
Mentioning all prices would make for a boring video. Mold release is $20 per 5 ounces(approximately:150gr). It equates to about 8 cans of mold release spray. You can use both systems with the resins that are available in the market . Only thing is provide us with the name so that we can update the device.
We are working to streamline the process of reaction injection molding and casting to make it hassle-free.
@@NeckogIndustries To be fair, one can cover such things with a chart. The question I have is if your business model is equitable, or it's a standard "printer" model where the device is free, and the gotcha is in the consumables. That I have a market that tolerates a given cost, and if I can't mold my parts within that cost, then buying the device is moot. Your product looks good on the surface, just want to do my due diligence.
I know fdm. I don't yet understand this system.
Please do a process from start to end of some functional usefull part.
Give us an idea....We will be sharing videos on start to finish including the mold design process on this channel.
@@NeckogIndustries 3 Ideas. High detailed and small ( D&D miniatures) 2. Under a hood, or in a car parts, something that can sit on a dash would say a lot. 3. Switch colors FAST on the same mold... These 3 things will Sell many of these systems if you can WOW us. 4. Would be how many can you do of a thing.
@@NeckogIndustriessome other good examples would be a wearable helmet from a firm foam, a small flyable glider from lightweight foam, or something small and intricate like a tabletop dice set from resin.
@@NeckogIndustries How about a two piece electronics enclosure?
like to se miniature and comlex stateu molds injected
Do you have material safety data sheets for the chemicals?
These will be available on our website.
But the problem is you need make mold every time if you make diferente thick
That printer is absolutely colossal. And I thought my X-Max 3 was big
How much will the mold release cost?
The one in the video is 5oz $20. It equates to 6-8 cans of spray mold release.
@@NeckogIndustries Great - thank you!
Where will these be made?
We are based in Texas. We are manufacturing all chemicals and devices in US. Screen and some of the components are bought from China.
@NeckogIndustries great. Sounds like the printer will be made in the USA with less than 50% Chinese components. Great you are making it in the US.
How expensive would it be to buy the consumables from The US? Are you going to have a reseller in the EU?
What is the price per KG for your materials? Your website shows 0.00 for all materials.
In the video $12 kilogram
Smooth On and many others sell 2 part resins by the bucket load.
I like to see a working machine
Next video will be a complete workflow
I’m a maker, I make terrain for tabletop gaming. I don’t really understand everything you are selling. What is the $499 for unless I missed something in the video. I see 2 machines on the desk. How many times can the same mold be used before it deteriorates. How hot is the chemical process. The release mold “helps” with layer line…then how accurate can it be for small details. I can easily see this working for parts and jigs for trades, that is actually brilliant for that market. But how doesn’t affect really thin or small details. If I could produce basic terrain with this setup it’s a win for me. My printer can deal with the small details while larger structures be casted.
Flovv which is the standalone unit will be $499. If its an ABS mold you can use it 40-50 times without any problems. Temperature depends on the thickness of the part(it doesn't go above 180-190F for a very thick part). For really small parts SLA printing or using silicone molds is way to go. When removing a very small detail from a rigid mold its likely to break unless its from a flexible material(in this case using a off the shelf spray mold release is much better). We never meant it to build very small details as there are a lot of machines for that. But if you are regularly casting this helps a lot with the process also for casting large structures from multiple part molds, its cheaper while also being very easy to use. If user is already casting things manually, Flovv makes it much easier. Thank you for the comments we are trying our best.
Just look up smooth on products. Buy some oil based clay. Foam core board. And hot glue. Save yourself hundreds of dollars and hours of time. "block mold" "2 part mold" "cavity/matrix mold" are all the tutorials you'll need.
I like the potential but the deposit prior to the kickstarter is BS. If you have backers on that platform, why should you have to back the project AND your position to back the project?
To see the manufacturing numbers roughly before the kickstarter.
Looks cool but I can’t understand what the person is saying
Just change the playback speed to 0.75x... 👍
So now you can make 3d injection miniature
If its a silicone mold yes. Small details from a rigid mold would break easily unless its injected from a flexible material.
Watched the whole video but still have no idea how the mold is made. You would think for a cheap injection system, you would also want to emphasize how easy it is to make a mold. I am going to assume the mold is a printed part
Yes mold is a 3D printed part. Mold making starts from designing a mold then printing it. Printing it is easy design on the other hand is not easy for everyone as we say in the video too.
Isn’t this just a 3d printer? You can make a mold with certain plastics that you can use as mold
Flovv-e is a 3D printer with Injection System. Flovv is Standalone Injection System. You can print molds from ABS. Also You can use molds made out of silicone, aluminium materials.
Actual ASTM physical parameter testing results of your 'special' resins would be helpful - unless there is a reason you don;t want people to see actual data.
Also - how is this different than just printing a 3D mold in any old printer and using whatever 2-part epoxy you wish? Why use your 'special' system?
RIM machines has always been industrial size. This is for the one thats for makers.
We use polyurethane resins. ASTM makes sense we will include this in the future videos. It creates better parts with a much smoother workflow.
Sound quality..
It’s impossible to understand what this guy is saying. How do you make the molds?
Can the printer injection mould you a better quality microphone? 🙄
I have no idea what you are saying here. You are displaying two machines, then telling us it is $499. Am I buying machines, or a service? Very confusing...
I was thinking that as well, but go to the link in the information and it explains it as it should have been done in the video. TLDR $499 is for the standalone injection machine to the right. The complete system to the left is almost $4000 msrp.
So this takes traditional silicone molding to the next level?
Too many typos to be taken seriously ...
My ears are bleeding
its only a concept. the flow-e behind the printbed that 2 cable is a LOL . im not convince thats a working printer. the whole thing looks like a 3d printed can see the layered
Outer shells are made out of thermoformed ABS with flat panels being aluminium. Internal structure is L stainless steel riveted to aluminium bent panels. Yes there are 3D printed parts.
@@NeckogIndustries are The Machine a working or just a prototype?
@@SuperLittlehorn All the cut scenes are actually injected with the machines.
instagram.com/p/C4g47kptGtt/ On the link this is at the highest flow setting with the rigid resin.(Since operator is behind the mold he can't see the mold fill.
So, when injecting, the operator presses the button multiple times instead of holding it down continuously.).Also on the next video we will do the process from start to finish without cut scenes. After the injection we will do a timelapse without the cut. Also there will be a printing timelapse on the scene. So they are working.
I see so many hidden costs in this system its not even funny! When anyone says something is or uses "proprietary" parts or materials be skeptical because the costs they claim are just hiding the real cost!
You can use your resins and your mold releases. Our mold release is $20 which is cheaper than almost all.
Can we stop making more plastic
NATO- No Action, Talking Only.
I think the example parts say it all… You have to think, they are showing us the best they can do. The services side is a huge no go for me… I own an engineering firm, we design injection molds, machine them, and then use them in our shop, and these people are telling me that the skills required to design a resin mold are too much for my team? LOL. Who are these people? Also, I’ve 3D printed plenty of resin molds in the past and used off the shelf resins with no issue, so what do I gain here? I don’t get it… Seems like this is a, not very well thought out scam…
He did not say that one must use their daas mold-design service. Users can design and print their own mold.
Seeing your background it is doubtful you are their customer target.
But for people new to injection molding, this supposedly affordable and simple to use / clean solution might be an interesting start.
Your team? This is for average consumers. Not you
I think target market are hobbyists, not people who own teams. That should be pretty self evident from the cost.
AFAICT, the design service is just an option; you’re free to do your own designs. (In fact, you can just use your own printer with their standalone injection machine, I didn’t hear any limitation about design in his presentation.
@@bob84409 i dont think hobbyists are the target. Hobbyists can just cast pour the materials normally or use a syringe. My guess it is for etsy shops or small shops like for prototyping, small batch productions or prop making for theaters and movies.
Looks / Feels/ Sounds like Scam. NT
1-why talk about material when you dont even have a working machine!!?
2-the flow-e looks like just a normal printer where is the enjection part!!?
3-flow is just a giant syringe to me! didnt even open up the front cover to see what is inside XD.
Full process with machines working: ruclips.net/video/Z-VuUWYal9k/видео.html
Geez Reup this with decent video, then I'll listen.
This is what happens when an idea is given too much money and too little thought. Keep refining and maybe you’ll get there, but i was immediately put off by the “political speak” of the video, and clear lies.
“No post processing”, then shows a part with the excess material still attached.
I am a bit confused. Isn't this just epoxy resin castings using 3d printed molds?
How long does it take to run each part? I’d like to see the process of assembling the mold, using the machine to inject, removing the part from the mold, and then on to the next part. I understand this isn’t for large production runs, but say I’ve got 20 parts to make like those on your table-what’s the time and effort involved?
Sure. On the next video we show from mold design to finished product.