Why Italy’s Far-Right Is Collapsing
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In today’s episode, we run through why Italy's far right might be in trouble. Also, we discuss Moldova’s plans to cut dependence on Russia; Colombia cuts diplomatic relations with Israel; and the new potential SNP leader.
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Further reading:
✍️ Is Italy’s Far Right in Trouble?
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www.agenzianova.com/en/news/e...
www.sv.uio.no/c-rex/english/n...
✍️ Moldova Moves to Cut Russia Dependence
www.politico.eu/article/moldo...
✍️ Colombia Cuts Diplomatic Relations with Israel
www.reuters.com/world/africa/...
www.axios.com/2023/11/16/isra...
www.reuters.com/world/america...
✍️ Who Will be the Next SNP Leader?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Sw...
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c...
✍️ TLDR Good News
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00:00 Intro
00:19 Is Italy’s Far Right in Trouble?
02:37 Moldova Moves to Cut Russia Dependence
03:56 Colombia Cuts Diplomatic Relations with Israel
04:49 Who Will be the Next SNP Leader?
06:01 TLDR Good News
06:40 Sponsor
Italy when the far-right politician turns out to be far-right: 😮
😲😲😲
Salvini isn't Meloni.... They literally don't agree with that Guy, Salvini is not to be taken seriously. He even may loose his position in favor of someone else in his party. 😂
The people who think that book and that guy damaged Salvini reputation don't know a thing of his voters. 😂😂 That book sold a lot actually..... And it wasn't leftist....
That's not far right. Those positions were the mainstream positions everywhere in the West a decade ago.
@@lawrencespicer8671 yeah and in 1938 the position of genociding the Jews was mainstream in Italy too. doesn't mean ten years later it was a fine position to have
Matteo Salvini looks like Italian Ted Cruz.
gdi, I can't unsee this xD
...is he Not?
We have never seen those two together
Slava Mafioso' Italiano 👀
In more ways than one, yes
I love how many comments celebrate the current crisis as the fall of the far right in Italy while to me its just another normal day in Italy.
I mean cmon guys no one can make Italy function without some drama.
Să nu se mai zică că doar România e desfuncțională lol
@@grapesurgeonsaying that children who cannot follow properly the lesson should go to special classes where their needs are addressed and at the same time aren't a problem for everyone else is so far right?
@@ShadowBlitz776 Suntem verii desparțiti doar pentru epoca comunistă
I see Italy is still having political unrest
So business as usual
its called "having different opinion".
The Left for years desperatly trying, but still failing to end the Lega: 💀💀💀
A former Neofascist woman and mother from Rome: »Fine, I'll do it myself!« 👸🏼 🇮🇹
@@rizkyadiyanto7922-Mikhail Gorbachev when asked about Lithuania's declaration of independence
@@felixnimo It is funny how everyone needs right to get shit done.
This video gets the timeline wrong. Vannacci isn't the cause of Lega's decline, it's a response to it. The cause is just competition from Meloni's party, and the decline itself didn't happen recently but last year.
Anyone: Criticizes Israel
Israeli officials: Calls them an anti-semite
Kinda hard for the accusation to feel impactful after you've called a ton of people anti-semites.
That card is being used to justify their own actions, basically, they are trying to say to the rest of the world, shut up and allow us to do whatever we want, whiles calling anyone that criticizes Israel as anti-semite, they basically don't want anyone to criticize them, regardless of their own actions of legitimate reasons to criticizes them, it's been done by many other groups of people throughout history to allow them to get away with far more, but in this case, Israel is slowly losing friends because of it's actions.
Wanted to make the exact same comment. When you inflicted the worst destruction on a territory since the second world War, the antisemitism argument becomes very weak (as it always has been)
@@rubenrathgeber458Grozny, Mosul, A-Raqqah, Sarajevo, Mariupol: hold my beer
Racists always say, "What does racism even mean anymore when you call everyone racist".
I somehow think its not just criticism of isreal your talking about 😂
FdI is polled at 27%, and they're far-right. It's just Lega that's declining, between their far-right voters and disillusioned northern regionalist voters moving to FdI.
I wouldnt say Fdi to be far-right, as under Meloni its more moderate at least compared to its Lega partner
@@cgt3704 Meloni simply knows that to be presentable is a good thing. In terms of policies and ideas they're totally fascistic.
@@davidescristofaros2241 Hahaha, average far-left creep lol. Fascists were far-left like you, Giovanni the philosopher behind fascism was a Socialist😂
@@cgt3704 Frate, ăștia n-au pic de minte. N-ai ce să vorbești cu nebuni ăștia😂
@@InAeternumRomaMater spuneam ca-s mai moderati decat lega nu ca sunt in total moderati.
those cheeky Italians~
Ciao
È una maledizione, una che non si può spezzare
Over in Britian the debate is do we let in 1 million Africans (far right) vs 2 million Africans (moderate)
@@neogeo6431 i dunno 5 million far left should do the trick
@@neogeo6431most of the asylum seekers are from the forever wars in the Middle East that the uk contributed to.
It's such a simple answer to a seemingly complex question: populists have rhetoric, emotional appeals, and charisma, but when they win off of those traits, the one thing they absolutely do not have is the ability to govern and run a country.
Populists who manage to win enough people to vote them into power are basically the dog that caught the car. They're good at running after the car, and that optics make for an exciting view to watch, but after that, they do nothing.
This is what happens in Italy. Meloni grew from 4% to 27% and the biggest reason after the staggering voters churn, was that she went against EVERYTHING EVERY GOVERNMENT would have done. Now that she is in power, al she is doing is maintains status-quo. She cut budget by removing the low cost sort-of-UBI that previous government created (who cares about poor people?) But she did nothing against the infamous superbonus, one of the most stupid laws in the history of European economics, a mass real estate subsidize without an upper bound that is doing little for the economy but it's destroying state budget. Italians already figured out she is a scam, but they are cool with it because they are just disheartened from the politics as a whole....and the last time they felt that way, a guy with a black shirt went to Rome for a walk
Yeah, that's a great point which really seems to sum it up.
I'd argue that the mainstream response to populism should be to listen to the populist concerns, and respond with level-headed solutions. If you just dismiss them as stupid, that usually backfires. Like Hilary Clinton's _"basket of deplorables"_ speech.
@andybrice2711 i feel this is not applicable. I won't say that fighting populism with cold bureaucracy and distaste for the masses it's a great idea (Democratic party look at me), but the "level-headed" solution implicitly admits that you as a voter have your share of faults and you have to be ready to make some sacrifice (ie. drop the superbonus) so you are more inclined to accept that no, you are on the right side, it's EU/immigrants/scientist that are trying to steal from you. You see, Salvini was at 30% few years ago, now it's become irrelevant just because his inconsistency was exposed...at the end populism pays off only in the short term, so things get better after both people and politicians acknowledge this single fact and will be able to match on a leadership class that is willing to talk about policies with a content....but before this happens, we are gonna suffer
@@carmineingaldi47 LOL you realize Meloni has never been in political office before, like all populists and demagogues? She doesn’t even know what governance is. She realized when she was sworn in, that her power is limited by democracy and she can’t do things she promised, because they weren’t doable in the first place. What you think of Meloni being a scam, is her actually realizing she’s not allowed to take steps to end democracy.
None of this makes sense. One party is collapsing.
The Left for years desperatly trying, but still failing to end the Lega: 💀💀💀
A former Neofascist woman and mother from Rome: »Fine, I'll do it myself!« 👸🏼 🇮🇹
LMAO "neofascist."
...and they let that guy be in charge of thousands of soldiers and major weapons?
I see you never been into the military… the world outside of your bubble is much more different than you think
I live in Italy, i'm Italian, but this event is not so outrageous that the Lega party is "collapsing" this is completely false, is only one of their millions unfortunate exits
Salvini looks like René Benko for some reason.
Love how the Forza Italia party image is still Berlusconi, despite him being... you know.... dead
Being in the Italian army is like playing for MK Dons lol
GOOD
You love to see it
Bravo, Columbia.
Finally some good news outside of the good news segment!
Ritorneremo!
W
My thoghts precisely.
Good news? 😂😂 Salvini is just trying to get attention as always, literally nothing new.
*brought
Bella Ciao, we ballin'
O partigiano
The far right is in power in Italy and not getting any weaker. The video title is bogus.
The far right never learn
No one does nowadays
Ritorneremo!
@@thepatriarchy819no , you won't
Nooo, this time the totally not facist will fix everything!!!!
@@nathanl4083 😂
Please don't call it X, call it Twitter.
Why do you care so much
@@c.m.81 because it offends me
@@c.m.81it offends me as well
I get you, but Twitter is technically not its name.
broski's gettin offended because someone called a social media platform by its correct name
It's wierd to see how Maloni became the postergirl for the EU.
In the movie version the part of Georgia Maloni will be played by Sydney Sweeney.
crisis asmr hitting again
Columbia will no longer allow cocaine to be exported to Israel, oh no.
One little error. Vannacci suspension was due to the fact that he have stolen money. Inflating his expenses when we was working in Russia. And yes... he was waking ask link officer in Russia before Ukraine war.
The trains aren't arriving on time, that's why.
😂😂
All that general needed was to call about hidden messages in 4chan post and we got an Italian Michael Flynn.
I CAN CONFIRM: ITALY COLLAPSED THIS MORNING AT 4.05 AM
"Zionists not calling anyone who criticizes or calls out Israel for their BS anti-semitic" challenge (impossible)
If you support hamas aand their actions are in fact antisemetic.
@AL-lh2ht That's entirely fair, but it often seems like people forget that Palestinian does not equal Hamas. Palestinians have just as much of a right to live where they've been for centuries as Israelis have to live in their homeland from millennia ago.
Dude the colombian government is absolutely malicious
@@TheHistorySoldierthey are welcome to live under Israel with Israeli laws... 2.3 million already are!
@@Hemalkukurkurezionists hate them and are scared that they will be replaced because Palestinian birth rates are higher than Israeli, even though Zionist birth rates are also extremely high, much more than the Israeli average.
Looks like the comment section has deemed this video well researched. How strange.
I love this channel but this script sounds a loooot like the Financial Times article on the same topic
whenver you are far right far left it iwill colapse political extremism always leads to ruin
Based Vannachi
Doesn't the far right RULE in Italy? Lol
SPD is ruling germany too, doesn't mean they aren't collapsing lol. people's opinion of a government change overtime, they might be really popular when they got elected, but if people think they're doing a bad job while in power they could quickly change their opinion.
Average day in Italy
Hey TLDR, is there any far right or is there only far right?
too many cuts in the video and the reading does not have the usual TLDR flow,
The far right in italy now is just... right
Good but seems like you tring to read cue card s the whole time but cant see the words.
I certainly prefer Meloni to Salvini, but it can be argued that Brothers of Italy is also a far-right party.
Anyone think Nadja looks like one of the ABBA? No? Only me?
anyone know her @
A certain bald man who wanted to reestablish the Roman Empire would not be happy about this.
The Vannacci story is months old and nothing particular regarding it happened in the last days and Salvini is NOT in particular danger, it's exactly as always, he's not appreciated by Bossi, the original leader and there's serious talking about substituting him but it's not something new, it's something that is going on by years, plus you implied that he got into power in the league after 2014 and with his skills or something like that he got it to 36% but it's wrong, he's leader by 2013, he was already in power by 2014 when they got such low votes. In general your segments regarding Italy are always really not perfect, at the point that it's nigh disinformation, and it's not a matter of words, with less words you could have said it better easily, i hope that you will pay more attention about it because it really happens often and a lot of people trust your videos
Is TLDR news left ?
Crazy that when stuff like this is said in Italy, it results in your political career being decimated. But if you say this in America, you’ll end up in office or in a high government position. Man, the US sucks
What do you mean bro in the US you just gotta say that you hate straight white men and they immediately hire you everywhere
You have no idea what politics are like in Italy.
I was thinking the same
So Italian politics is basically just being Italian politics, is this only news because the current party in charge is right of center?
Idk whats all this about but i know right is rising not falling
facts don't care about your feelings. The statement is about Italy's far right not some nebulous "the right is rising/falling" message
@@mnm1273 Ok, well, i shall see you speak again about YOUR comment, soon enough about what is rising and declining. Leftists are always worthless. Or are you too "far dumb" to comprehend. :D
PS. This vid is non sense from start to end by a leftist. I basically just hear blablabla, it does not even grab my attention writing this.
Lega Nord is a better choice btw, rather than the "Fratteli brothers", or whatever its called.
Different elements in Italian coalition government. Italy Guy Italian conservative. We got ministry for finance, Defence, Interior ministry. Better politicians 400 Italian MP's In Italian parliament. Awesome. Brilliant content. Britain England London region EU again like Italy.🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺.
6:15 so the current Egyptian government were annoyed that someone stole it from them after they stole it from the romans and the romans from the Ptolemaic etc
Are the US, Brits and Germans still pulling the anti-semetic card for anyone criticizing Israel or is it just Israel themselves now?
It’s VANACCI not VANICCI
Can't even be considered news tbh.
If this was delivered slower but less out of breath and with less mispronunciations it would be easier to listen to.
It's Italy mate. Collapsing in 2024, back within the next 4-5 years.
This video seems really weirdly edited?
Yes... way too many cuts.
Simple, because Mousilini is still dead.
I noticed a lot of cuts. Is this normal, or am I seeing them now because I was paying attention to the host?
yes
It's normal. Since they aren't live, they still have free rein for things like that.
4:30 she moves her hair between takes
Good observation
If you watch, it slowly goes back to the way it was at the start of the video, perhaps they started midway
username checks out
Unforgivable. I demand they hire a continuity expert and budget for a large supply of extra-strong hairspray.
that's insane
Wait i though the far lefr was already in power
People are tired of the far-right's hypocisy.
I would say it is more akin to inaction. Lega has always been a "we'll do this thing, we'll do this other thing" while never delivering
Most far-right parties have easy solutions to complicated problems... that sounds really appealing to the people who vote for them.
Problem is... when they end up being in charge with the obligation to actually DO something... they get a reality check.
Not really, the people who vote salvini simply now vote Meloni, the left is still at 19%.....they haven't moved one bit.
Bro we’re just tired of being ethnically replaced, that shouldn’t make someone “far right”
Slava MAFIOSO Italiano 👀
Sad to read that many uninformed comments on the current stable and moderate government
is this sarcasm?
@@byunbaekhyun2283 I wasn’t being sarcastic
Mio padre quando c'era Craxi: si rompe le mani aggiustando compressori
Mio padre quando c'era Berlusconi: si rompe le mani aggiustando compressori
Mio padre quando c'era il PD: si rompe le mani aggiustando compressori
Mio padre ora che c'è la Meloni: si rompe le mani aggiustando compressori
Nel frattempo, il cittadino medio della colonia Italy: "AIUTOOOO I FAFFITTI" o dieci anni fa "AIUTOOOO I COMUNISHTI!!!!!!"
Mi sono decisamente rotto di sopportare queste accuse inutili, infondate e codarde nei confronti degli elettori di chicchessia solo perché non si ha il coraggio di pensare in grande
because it's Italy
This is the most beautiful woman I’ve ever seen! Thanks for making RUclips great again xoxo.
Isnt the party less right than Meloni?
If anyone believes what Petro says, please remeber he was part of the M-19 guerrilla movement, and is still proud of that, give them a Google
That just tradition of Italy
Government never made to second year
I dunno if you just didn't watch the video but this is good for Meloni. The voters Salvini is losing right now will definitely go to Meloni and the Brothers of Italy instead. So why would it cause a government collapse?
Meloni is already in her second year as PM, she became PM in October 2022
@@ad_astra468 good to know
If you look it's clear voters are just shifting to Meloni... The left is still at 19%.....someone who vote Salvini won't change to vote leftist. 😂🤦♂️
Glad to see Moldova moving away from Russia, good choice.
Colombia: *breaks ties with Israel
Colombia University: NEVERRRRR
Wolf Maia starring Mateo Salvini in La Lega The Series 😂
When listing the statements of the "far right" army guy me be thinking how my lesbian mother and progressive best friend would agree with most if not all xdd.
I'm no italian, but the pronounciation of their names felt very italian. Good job :)
Actually no ahah. The effort is always appreciated tho
In the EU its okay to be far right as long as u support EU and NATO😂😂
I think the term Far-Right has been overused to a point where it is becoming meaningless. Can a party be Far-Right if it captured 34% of the populace? Maybe you are more Left than you realize? Better yet, can we get some semblance of definitions that we can broadly agree on? Are 34% of all Italians extremists?
In my region the governor is from that party and he wins elections with almost 80% 😂😂😂
It's based on world average sometimes and sometimes it based on where the country policy was before the new leadership yes it can be a lot to take in especially when trying to explain how the social and economic scales work, socially left means more freedom while economically right means more freedom an example, but isn't aways the case
Yeah, well TLDR are to far left behind to get that maybe. :D
Interesting that what salvini did to Movimento 5 stelle is now happening to it's oarty by Meloni XD
It's fall asleep girl!!!!😂😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
Someone went to a antiquities market in Europe and said: "It's place is in a museum!!!"
Do you think that Moldova would be scared enough of Russia that rather than waiting to be accepted into NATO, they ask Romania to annex/reunify them to prevent an invasion?
By that I mean that the threat of invasion is great enough that they don't have the time to wait for all the NATO members to accept them joining? Considering what just happened with Sweden taking so long to enter because of Hungary and Turkey, I can see it as a possible way for safety, but I'm not sure how possible it would be.
Not likely. The question of Transnistria would have to be sorted first which if handled poorly could expand the Ukraine conflict into Moldavia.
Ngl I doubt Moldova will unite with Romania. I think they’ve grown apart in the century since they were ripped from Romania
Moldova already has a territorial conflict. So no Nato and no unification.
I think ive heard/read about this before, apperantly some moldovans are for it but transnitria makes it practicly impossible
@@fireironthesecond2909Century? It has been 80 years at most, and if they could join before (Bessarabia, which was basically Moldova, was a part of the Russian Empire for almost a century) they can join once again
You guys were also calling melloni far right yet she isnt falling apart. So is the far right falling apart or are right wingers switching parties?
Salvini is, by most metrics, further right than Meloni.
The extremists on the fringes of the right are by all means on the decline. Salvini's downfall is very much real, as they said he's bleeding voters to meloni. He's been scrambling for votes for a while, knowing full well these eu elections are gonna be hard on him. As for meloni, she's definitely hard-right but nowhere near the dystopia fascistic dictator many feared she'd have become by now which is fortunate
The Overton window moved. Meloni has been in office for long enough that the centre of Italian politics has moved rightwards and the new "far right" are people right of Meloni.
Meloni's brothers is slightly less right wing than league. Brothers are in the conservatives faction of the european parlement, while league is with the far right identity and democracy group
Depends what you define as falling apart haha - its probably better to specify that elements of the far right are "falling apart", if we include defections in that definition, which I think is fair to do so, as that corresponds with losing power over the legislature. Idk much about Italian politics tho, so the importance of it in this particular case is probably something that you can look into on your own
Hello, thanks for the video. I’m from Italy and my opinion about our politics is that left became a group of intellectuals from the big cities who are incapable to understand the real problems of most of Italians, who are not super educated and not leaving in the majors cities. So at the end people votes for those politicians who they feel more close to their life problems not for a vision of the future (mind we have a very old population). The right in general is much more able to understand people’s problems and that is why they are leading now. Extreme right was up and down because was the time where Lega turned from a local pro north party to a national one and there was a lot of enthusiasm. But they went to leading a mixed government with M5S party that is center left. Instead fratelli d’Italia (Meloni) stayed out and gained a lot of consensus for being serious and not accepting compromise with the left area of the party. That is why her party now is the Italian right and Lega lost a lot of consensus.
I'm not a fan of M5S but they could have been the trade off between that kind of narrative that is able to speak to people and progressive policies that our country desperately needs. The problem is that they never thought they could govern the country so they just attacked everyone, becoming political pariahs
Blah … blah … antisemitic …. Blah …. blah … Hamas.
A bit more context about Colombia: Gustavo Petro declare the end of diplomatic relations in the middle of a worker´s day gathering that was called by him a week after an anti-government manifestation called by the oposition. This is probably a way to rally his diminishing supporters around a popular cause to keep his popularity after a series of failures in the legislative to pass legislation to re-nationalize healthcare and strengthen the weak welfare state. Also, Israeli soldiers trained far right death squads back in the 90s, fot that reason many leftist Colombians have a deep hatred towards Israel
Modern witches.... lol
I heard the word
Jordan Chad
For the first time 😂
Hahahahaha 😂😂 Colombia 😂😂 what a Joke
Italy guy Australian he best person hit Tom Nicholson he piss off Thomas would go Italy no. He five degrees mason Australian Italian guy catholic super rich actually explained it he supports closer to England London Britain. He Austrialian he Italian catholic Thomas. He conservative Italian yes 14% Italy population. He like in England London Britain. He a friend Thomas. Awesome.
Editing is atrocious.
I’m Italian and I’m ashamed of our right wing politicians… but don’t think for a second that Meloni and her party are not far right. She’s got fascists in her party.
I thought Italy's far right leader was doing fine... as Prime Minister.
Antisemitic lol who could’ve thought of that reply?
He's gay himself.
And feminism - free love - etc. is the only hope for humanity. (Feminists are extremely rare and marginalized, so I don't get it.)
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I assume that either the team mistranslated Petro's remarks or Petro made that outrageous accusation at the wrong individual. I imagine the error lies with the fact that the spanish term for Prime Minister is Presidente del Gobierno - President of the Government. The president of Israel is a figurehead with mostly ceremonial powers, and the current holder, Yizhak Hertzog, was considered a leftist before he got the job, which contrasts with the current hard right-wing government, and anyways has essentially no sway over the decisionmaking.
Not that there is a right individual besides Yahya Sinwar and his genocidal underlings, but putting the blame on a moderate figure like Hertzog instead of people with histories of incitement to racism like Netanyahu or a past record of being unable to run for office due to their party's extremist platform (people or parties that are openly racist can't run for the Knesset) like Ben-Gvir seems implausible, even for enemies of Israel, since Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir are much easier and more recognizable icons to rally against, which is also a point that is true for Israel's opposition parties.
It could be. Almost all countries in the american continent have a presidential system, which makes dealing with non-presidential ones a bit weird when done at a moment's notice
What’s the journalist name?
Wait, there's a different far right leader in Italy besides Meloni?
Meloni isn’t far-right. She’s just medium right wing.
There's always a further right. Someone, somewhere, probably thinks Hitler was a centrist.
There are parties even more far right than Salvini in Italy 😂😂😂
@@sawyersprott Medium rare right chicken wing
@@Talisguy Erich Ludendorff be like: