I can't decide whether Pep is the cool boujee auntie or the cool older sister that keeps the siblings in check. Either way, I'm ALWAYS hyped whenever she's on here!
9:45 fourth year ASL student here, there actually is a sign language known as International Sign. From what I know, it's still pretty new and borrows signs from ASL, BSL (British), LSF (French), and many others. Monet's comment about sign languages having similarities is absolutely right! Most notably, ASL is derived from LSF and has crossover with signs and sentence structure. Gallaudet traveled from America to other countries in search of language to communicate with the deaf, ending up in France where they had their own academy! Revolutionary for the time, he stayed to learn, and eventually took back a star pupil to help him teach back home.
My classroom trauma came from math in high school. There was this one math teacher, whose class I failed, that told me I was not cut out for college math. For whatever reason that has stuck with me for almost two decades. Well guess what? I went part-time to community college and only took math classes for two years, and I got an A in Calculus II, Discrete Math, Linear Algebra, all while working a full-time job. Eat that HS math teacher. edit: context, something Monet said about reading sent me off about struggling to overcome something.
These kind of comments from teachers and other adults can be so damaging to young impressionable minds. Relatable. Good for you for persevering and discovering you are capable, for real
I will say that the allegations against Lizzo’s choreographer policing the virginity of one of the dancers was sooooooooo over the line and the choreographers response did not deny it. I agree that Lizzo was immediately buried in hatred stemming from nothing to do with the allegations, but if your staff members are pressuring your employee to conform to their bs religious beliefs they Lizzo is responsible for that too…….
@@khjgl6574and even in their own plaintiff notes: lizzo would ask about things like that and even offer paid mental health leave but they refused to talk about it and refused to accept the assistance but now lizzos the bad guy??
I grew up in Wisconsin and went to school in the 2000s. In 8th grade we had a Holocaust unit and all of us watched Schindler’s List, and in 6th grade we focused on a slave unit-the book we read was Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry. In high school we only watched a clip or two of Amistad, but we also read To Kill a Mockingbird.
Pwr bttm's story is Wild May 10, 2017 - allegations announced on a private face book The touring members dropped out May 11 per bttm responds sort of May 12 (their 2nd album comes out) Jezebel piblishes an interview from a survivor that says the band is lying May 13, the Record Label, says they are not selling or distributing their music anymore and offers refunds May 14 15 venues drop them May 15 their entire discography is removed from Amazon, Itunes, Apple, Tidal, and Google Play May 18, they formally denied any violence In 3 days EVERY THING WAS GONE!
Oh girl, you know damn well those kids were prolly acting a whole fool and a mess and deserved to get kicked out. Lmao good on Spielberg for immersing himself and truly making it a moment though.❤ learning moment for all
yeah, they would've been kicked out no matter what race they were. if any large group of teens were laughing at a movie like that and were talking in a public theater, they would've been kicked out
And then for one kid to go “well why not do one on black genocide?” Yes, Spielberg later made Amistad, but why would you ask a white Jewish man to tell black history, unless you were trying to stump him 🥴
I doubt Monet will see this, but I have recommendations for fantasy books. For a Muse of Fire by Heidi Heilig is about a girl with magic who performs in the family shadow puppet troupe in a fantasy world loosely based around European colonialism of East Asia. There are drag queen side characters. Other recommendations: The Gilda Stories by Jewelle Gomez, A Song of Wraiths and Ruin by Roseanne A Brown, Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas, Payback’s A Witch by Lana Harper, and The City of Brass by S.A. Chakraborty.
The thing is, the court of public opinion is able to be more swayed by those in power, like Lizzo, than by the accusers. It’d also do us listeners good to reckon with Bob, Monet and Peppermint’s positions in all this. They are much more likely to be on the Lizzo side of things than on the dancer’s side of things, so that will affect their opinions on the subject.
I think wine n chill (blavk woman and ex lawyer extaordinare) had a great breakdown! Personally: i think It's an industry issue and an issue if Lizzo realizing that 1. her coworkers are not her friends 2. who she puts in charge is a reflection of her 3.she is both a cog in the machine and a machine operator, and that's one hell of a grey area 4. The issue was not the dancers' perception or feelings, but a workplace that makes her feel that her job is at stake depending on her weight or if she attended events (outside of well-being time) that she dis not want to attend and didn't consent to be in that space 5. Internalized fat phobia is a bitch (as a plus size pole dancer - I can attest) Also speaking of evil reality TV shows : yall would love this show unreal - I wish they woulda got more than 2 seasons! Also also the bees thing was a great metaphor because it allowed people from behind their screens to wish for someone's death and having it actually happen in a way that's almost 3rd party gives an insane amount of power to the social media users (aka black mirror version of Twitter)
1:14:32 Bob, you have to see a show called 'First Dates'. All types of people (majorities and minorities), from all ages, fill a questionnaire (before the tapping) so the producers can find the most adequate person for them to date. The participants only have to go one time to this restaurant (with hidden cameras) and have a date. The most 'healthier' (and entertaining, imo) dating reality show out there!
"A Jewish, German war movie"??? Seriously?! that's how you chose to say it Monet?! It was a movie about the HOLOCAUST! You can say it. Not saying it is downplaying it.
So actually it is Law-yer not Loyer, however depending on where you grow up, and how other people say it, that's how you pronounce it, cause we learn words from others. A lot of the British say it Loy-uh (which is also strange because they have solicitors and barristers...but they also had law And order television (the American Version) for decades before law and order uk, which had about 8 or 9 seasons, I think it was 8 because Freeman was in Sense8 season 1, so...it had to have been 8 seasons)
46:29 I totally get what Peppermint is saying here!!! We watch reality tv, listen to music, and see celebs promoting that behavior a lot imo. What comes to mind is the saying "it's all fun and games til someone gets hurt". And yes there should be something in place to protect everyone in those situations!!! ❣️💯🤘🫶
NOOOOO I had no idea the cast is being switched out for We’re Here season 4! I love those queens too but damn, the trio of Bob, Shangie and Eureka was just SO good. Damn. 😩 Also I’d be willing to bet money that these dancers were all out for a night on the town with Lizzo in the red light district, wildin’ out, kiki’ing and having a crazy time, fully engaging with the sex club and the “banana incident,” and now they’re disgruntled and trying to milk her for everything she’s worth because they were let go. And I absolutely do not believe that she ever body shamed a single person. I would literally need to see video or audio proof in order to believe that. I think maybe certain people can take things in a certain way that they absolutely were not meant, or things get misconstrued or miscommunicated. It’s hectic and stressful on the road so a lot can get lost in translation, with everything going on. My thing is like… look, the phrase shouldn’t be “believe all victims.” It should be, “take all accusations seriously and commit to a thorough, independent investigation and determine if there actually is a victim first.” Never believe anything outright just based on something someone claims. Especially in the world of celebrity where there actually is a lot to be gained from this kind of thing (money, fame or infamy, clout, notoriety, etc). And people always say “well it’s too difficult to prove these kinds of allegations so the bad people will just get away from it.” But it’s like, well… it’s better than literally destroying the life, career and reputation of a completely innocent person. The bad people will get theirs in due time. If something can’t actually be proved then we should remain neutral.
And I’ve read the actual plaintiff interviews and lizzo only mentioned one girls weight bc she knew the girl had a binge eating disorder and was worried about her, the girl WAS struggling with that but pretended she wasn’t. Lizzo still offered her paid mental health leave but the girl refused. So many other points show that if anyone’s to be reprimanded it’s the dance captain and that parts not even lawsuit worthy to me tbh
We need Ms. Negry and Julietta on the podcast at this point. Sidenote: someone with the name Negry pissed someone off, and it's a term on urban dictionary
No, I hear what she’s saying. My take-away is that the entertainment industry is built on so much exploitation and audacious behavior that the line between entertainment out on the stage and professional workplace conduct becomes blurred. The entertaimment biz is such a hellscape where everything is made topsy-turvy. Not to mention that in the biz, talent is given such privilege and status that their behaviors are often gone unquestioned and unchallenged. The nature of such power corrupts 99% of people. The system exacerbates flaws and creates new ones. Yes, Lizzo is an individual who has her own autonomy, but it should be made normal for a person with that much power and influence to be checked by some third party, (because fame and money and power have been proven with studies to be quite damaging to peoples’ personal ethics, empathy, and ego), and surprise surprise, she wasn’t. Lizzo was given the green light and praised for being unapologetically sexual in her acts, so it stands to reason that at best she thought it was perfectly fine and cool to behave that way with her coworkers, since “that’s her whole schtick”. Again, this is at best, and only for the sexual harassment allegations. The threats of physical harm are a whole ‘nother issue that doesn’t have an excuse.
Bob scaring Monet when she was saying she wasn't in a "horror mood" = dead lmao
I was in my car CRYING😭😭😭😭😹
Peppermint is probably my favorite person to be with Bob and Mo.
It’s always a treat with pep (there’s a pun in there somewhere 😅😂)
💯💜
I can't decide whether Pep is the cool boujee auntie or the cool older sister that keeps the siblings in check. Either way, I'm ALWAYS hyped whenever she's on here!
Probably?!
Fullllly agree!!!!
Pep is the big sister that comes back for college that younger siblings in the house want all of her attention.
Pep is genuinely one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life. Just stunning.
Love my trans sisters
9:45 fourth year ASL student here, there actually is a sign language known as International Sign. From what I know, it's still pretty new and borrows signs from ASL, BSL (British), LSF (French), and many others. Monet's comment about sign languages having similarities is absolutely right! Most notably, ASL is derived from LSF and has crossover with signs and sentence structure. Gallaudet traveled from America to other countries in search of language to communicate with the deaf, ending up in France where they had their own academy! Revolutionary for the time, he stayed to learn, and eventually took back a star pupil to help him teach back home.
Bob scaring Monet SENDING ME 😂😂😂
BOO
Bob got her lick back from when Monét scared her in that one video.
No bc she scared me too😂
8.00 minutes in!
broooo the “BOO!” took me tf out 😂😂😂😂😂😂
God I love Peppermint!! The three of y’all together are everything!
BOB BRINGING UP TILA TEQUILA!!! I am screaming wow. That opened up every chakra in my body
Which means you can now access the 9 tail fox
@@ensabahnur3104
🦊😅😂🤣
Bob's "Italian sign language" while Monét ignores them and keeps talking is taking me clean out. 🤣😂
Bob was on one in this intro!! I love when he’s in a good mood 😂😂😂
THE MOOOOST ICONIC TRIO EVER
love the amount of nuance in peppermints takes! can't finish the episode because I need to catch up on black mirror damn
My classroom trauma came from math in high school. There was this one math teacher, whose class I failed, that told me I was not cut out for college math. For whatever reason that has stuck with me for almost two decades. Well guess what? I went part-time to community college and only took math classes for two years, and I got an A in Calculus II, Discrete Math, Linear Algebra, all while working a full-time job. Eat that HS math teacher. edit: context, something Monet said about reading sent me off about struggling to overcome something.
Fuck that teacher high key and I'd send a letter with my report cards just to prove them wrong
These kind of comments from teachers and other adults can be so damaging to young impressionable minds. Relatable. Good for you for persevering and discovering you are capable, for real
58:21 Pep holy shit. Same. I literally could not with blk mirror after season 1 ep 1.
Lol I went to marine park and had Ms. Negri, our ENTIRE curriculum was West Side Story 🤣🤣.
I love that the order their on screen is the order their independent seasons aired. 8th: Bob 9th: Peppermint 10th: Monet
The jump scare 😂
peppermint is absolutely mother of sibling rivalry llc
Bob explaining that the bees would kill Lizzo is so hilarious
I keep rewinding when BOB scared Monet ughhhhhhh I can’t stop 😂😂😂😂😂
I will say that the allegations against Lizzo’s choreographer policing the virginity of one of the dancers was sooooooooo over the line and the choreographers response did not deny it. I agree that Lizzo was immediately buried in hatred stemming from nothing to do with the allegations, but if your staff members are pressuring your employee to conform to their bs religious beliefs they Lizzo is responsible for that too…….
I can see that...if they told Lizzo.
How is lizzo supposed to do anything of no one reports the issues to her
@@khjgl6574and even in their own plaintiff notes: lizzo would ask about things like that and even offer paid mental health leave but they refused to talk about it and refused to accept the assistance but now lizzos the bad guy??
I grew up in Wisconsin and went to school in the 2000s. In 8th grade we had a Holocaust unit and all of us watched Schindler’s List, and in 6th grade we focused on a slave unit-the book we read was Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry. In high school we only watched a clip or two of Amistad, but we also read To Kill a Mockingbird.
I rewound and rewatched Bob scaring Monet like 5 times lmao
8:19 LMFAO
BTDQ vids needs to make a monet middle school teacher compilation
"they should invent a universal language, don't you think?" ESPERANTO leaves the chat
ho ne... ni elkuris
8:18 nobody amuses bob like Bob 🤣
When BOB screamed BOO @8:20 and Monet jumped I hollered 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I did props on POSE it was a pleasure working with Peppermint...
I will always adore miss pepp! Love when these three get together😂 its so good 😂hahahaa
I use a fan every single night when i sleep, same with my mom and we own like 6 of them. I'm pretty sure everyone has fans for one reason or another.
Monet, PLEEEAAASSSEEEE make a music podcast with Peppermint!!!!!
can’t wait to watch!
7:38 she had said "where my beyhive, Swarm on these hands n*ggaaa" lmaoo
Boo killed me 😭
Peppermint is gorg 😍
Everyone in the U.K. has fans because we don’t have air conditioning in our homes 😂
A Bob the drag queen reality tv show titled "Alls Well for Caldwell"
Yas so excited for a pep episode
im so happy bob appreciates the giver as much as i do
Love you, Pep!!
31:18 not my gay dollars is iconic and every penny to my name is a gay currency now
Monet fully flexing her nails I love it
Just too say
Thanks Bob and Monet
This kept me from doing something stupid ❤️
Take care x
♥️♥️♥️
I love this pod so much can you please match the intro audio level to the talking it kills me every time
The Lead in the She’s Gotta Have It series is doing well. She had a lead role in Jurassic Park
Peppermint is me being the middle sister with two very extra sisters 💀♥️
Pwr bttm's story is Wild
May 10, 2017 - allegations announced on a private face book
The touring members dropped out
May 11 per bttm responds sort of
May 12 (their 2nd album comes out) Jezebel piblishes an interview from a survivor that says the band is lying
May 13, the Record Label, says they are not selling or distributing their music anymore and offers refunds
May 14 15 venues drop them
May 15 their entire discography is removed from Amazon, Itunes, Apple, Tidal, and Google Play
May 18, they formally denied any violence
In 3 days EVERY THING WAS GONE!
Oh girl, you know damn well those kids were prolly acting a whole fool and a mess and deserved to get kicked out. Lmao good on Spielberg for immersing himself and truly making it a moment though.❤ learning moment for all
yeah, they would've been kicked out no matter what race they were. if any large group of teens were laughing at a movie like that and were talking in a public theater, they would've been kicked out
And then for one kid to go “well why not do one on black genocide?” Yes, Spielberg later made Amistad, but why would you ask a white Jewish man to tell black history, unless you were trying to stump him 🥴
Fans are literally keeping me alive this summer! How very DARE you, Monét! Boo! 👻🤪
that Pep intro took 30 mins.. the girl was WAITINGG lmfaoo
Can’t wait to watch peppermint kick butt on the Traitors. So many of my favs alongside her. They better not F with mah girl!!!!
so in spirit of the episode; was the cast of ‘we’re here’ changed cause of allegations on Shangela?
🤐
I doubt Monet will see this, but I have recommendations for fantasy books. For a Muse of Fire by Heidi Heilig is about a girl with magic who performs in the family shadow puppet troupe in a fantasy world loosely based around European colonialism of East Asia. There are drag queen side characters.
Other recommendations: The Gilda Stories by Jewelle Gomez, A Song of Wraiths and Ruin by Roseanne A Brown, Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas, Payback’s A Witch by Lana Harper, and The City of Brass by S.A. Chakraborty.
Peppermint is always gorgeous but she looks particularly stunning here
not peppermint saying a lot but not saying NOTHING at the same time lmaooo
What is Bob's opinion on Shangela's alleged rape case?
Well he just made lizzo’s sexual assault allegations seem like nothing so… 🤷
Thank you 🫰🏻
Im sooo exited
The thing is, the court of public opinion is able to be more swayed by those in power, like Lizzo, than by the accusers. It’d also do us listeners good to reckon with Bob, Monet and Peppermint’s positions in all this. They are much more likely to be on the Lizzo side of things than on the dancer’s side of things, so that will affect their opinions on the subject.
Bob brings up accents in almost every video 😂
I think wine n chill (blavk woman and ex lawyer extaordinare) had a great breakdown!
Personally: i think It's an industry issue and an issue if Lizzo realizing that
1. her coworkers are not her friends
2. who she puts in charge is a reflection of her
3.she is both a cog in the machine and a machine operator, and that's one hell of a grey area
4. The issue was not the dancers' perception or feelings, but a workplace that makes her feel that her job is at stake depending on her weight or if she attended events (outside of well-being time) that she dis not want to attend and didn't consent to be in that space
5. Internalized fat phobia is a bitch (as a plus size pole dancer - I can attest)
Also speaking of evil reality TV shows : yall would love this show unreal - I wish they woulda got more than 2 seasons!
Also also the bees thing was a great metaphor because it allowed people from behind their screens to wish for someone's death and having it actually happen in a way that's almost 3rd party gives an insane amount of power to the social media users (aka black mirror version of Twitter)
love pep so much!
Omg the mumbling!
I personally think that the best episode of POSE is…
Spoilers
Candy’s funeral ❤
23:29 was it good Peppermint? How did that taste?
Hello bob and Monét ❤
i’ve been a huge lizzo fan for over seven years but i had to take a step back when i realized she hired the lawyer bill cosby and chris brown used…
I looovvve Peppermint
Pep is soooo gorgeous ❤
1:14:32 Bob, you have to see a show called 'First Dates'. All types of people (majorities and minorities), from all ages, fill a questionnaire (before the tapping) so the producers can find the most adequate person for them to date. The participants only have to go one time to this restaurant (with hidden cameras) and have a date. The most 'healthier' (and entertaining, imo) dating reality show out there!
Bob you need to talk about the original Last One Laughing called Documental (japanese) its way more unhinged than all of them
Monet’s nails are so pretty!
Peppermint is just always a joy, I cannot stop looking at her beauty and her reactions. Pep and Monet podcast when?
You are all beautiful humans
My mother showed me Schindlers List because the school wasn’t allowed to show us the movie.
Okay Bob why is it not wrong for them to laugh… No excuse calling that racist is wild af 😒
"A Jewish, German war movie"??? Seriously?! that's how you chose to say it Monet?! It was a movie about the HOLOCAUST! You can say it. Not saying it is downplaying it.
So actually it is Law-yer not Loyer, however depending on where you grow up, and how other people say it, that's how you pronounce it, cause we learn words from others. A lot of the British say it Loy-uh (which is also strange because they have solicitors and barristers...but they also had law And order television (the American Version) for decades before law and order uk, which had about 8 or 9 seasons, I think it was 8 because Freeman was in Sense8 season 1, so...it had to have been 8 seasons)
chile how many times monet gon bring up miss negri and her titanic obsession 🤣
The BOO! sent meeee
the end 😭
So funny 😂😂
Y’all, in the beginning when peppermint goes “what is this intro?” 😂😂😂 💀☠️
I want a show with Bob, Monet, Pepp, Thorgy, Bianca & Trixie
Oh, sweet Jesus. that would be intense.
🪭🪭🪭
Period bob!!
I got my fan in my smoke room🤪
46:29 I totally get what Peppermint is saying here!!! We watch reality tv, listen to music, and see celebs promoting that behavior a lot imo. What comes to mind is the saying "it's all fun and games til someone gets hurt". And yes there should be something in place to protect everyone in those situations!!! ❣️💯🤘🫶
Omg I stopped listening to come here to comment... I kept listening and heart Peppermint say those exact words!!! 🤦♀️🫶💯❣️
Omg I love the giver to this day. The whole quartet is amazing, the movie was horrible! Nobody I know knows wtf the giver is 😭😭😭😭 I feel seen
I think titanic was required curriculum. I learned about it in 5th grade lol. But I get what Monet is saying.
NOOOOO I had no idea the cast is being switched out for We’re Here season 4! I love those queens too but damn, the trio of Bob, Shangie and Eureka was just SO good. Damn. 😩
Also I’d be willing to bet money that these dancers were all out for a night on the town with Lizzo in the red light district, wildin’ out, kiki’ing and having a crazy time, fully engaging with the sex club and the “banana incident,” and now they’re disgruntled and trying to milk her for everything she’s worth because they were let go. And I absolutely do not believe that she ever body shamed a single person. I would literally need to see video or audio proof in order to believe that. I think maybe certain people can take things in a certain way that they absolutely were not meant, or things get misconstrued or miscommunicated. It’s hectic and stressful on the road so a lot can get lost in translation, with everything going on.
My thing is like… look, the phrase shouldn’t be “believe all victims.” It should be, “take all accusations seriously and commit to a thorough, independent investigation and determine if there actually is a victim first.” Never believe anything outright just based on something someone claims. Especially in the world of celebrity where there actually is a lot to be gained from this kind of thing (money, fame or infamy, clout, notoriety, etc). And people always say “well it’s too difficult to prove these kinds of allegations so the bad people will just get away from it.” But it’s like, well… it’s better than literally destroying the life, career and reputation of a completely innocent person. The bad people will get theirs in due time. If something can’t actually be proved then we should remain neutral.
And I’ve read the actual plaintiff interviews and lizzo only mentioned one girls weight bc she knew the girl had a binge eating disorder and was worried about her, the girl WAS struggling with that but pretended she wasn’t. Lizzo still offered her paid mental health leave but the girl refused. So many other points show that if anyone’s to be reprimanded it’s the dance captain and that parts not even lawsuit worthy to me tbh
So, Monet is working on an album 😏 confirmed
Black sign language ✌🏿🤞🏿👍🏿👌🏿🖖🏿🤙🏿😂😂😂😂
Bob you can’t say those words you can sign them lol
We need Ms. Negry and Julietta on the podcast at this point.
Sidenote: someone with the name Negry pissed someone off, and it's a term on urban dictionary
Yass love me some BPM ❤
I feel lile Peppermint is makes excuses for Lizzo's alleged behavior by taking away her autonomy and blaming it on the system. Stop!
Same, I love Pep but oof.....idk if I agree. Also it's crazy how so little people are talking about it in the comments...
No, I hear what she’s saying. My take-away is that the entertainment industry is built on so much exploitation and audacious behavior that the line between entertainment out on the stage and professional workplace conduct becomes blurred. The entertaimment biz is such a hellscape where everything is made topsy-turvy. Not to mention that in the biz, talent is given such privilege and status that their behaviors are often gone unquestioned and unchallenged. The nature of such power corrupts 99% of people. The system exacerbates flaws and creates new ones. Yes, Lizzo is an individual who has her own autonomy, but it should be made normal for a person with that much power and influence to be checked by some third party, (because fame and money and power have been proven with studies to be quite damaging to peoples’ personal ethics, empathy, and ego), and surprise surprise, she wasn’t.
Lizzo was given the green light and praised for being unapologetically sexual in her acts, so it stands to reason that at best she thought it was perfectly fine and cool to behave that way with her coworkers, since “that’s her whole schtick”. Again, this is at best, and only for the sexual harassment allegations. The threats of physical harm are a whole ‘nother issue that doesn’t have an excuse.
I mean have you read the actual plaintiff interview notes? Lizzo is definitely not a villain in this situation at all.
Fan🌬🌬🌬🌬
Why has Pep 100% sold me on that show
Not after the vmas lol