Ive been flying the Iflight AT32 for 2 months now. Works great! Cant wait for more options. I don't see myself buying any other FC again. Price to performance this is the best FC you can get.
Thanks a lot Ian! I am right now building a quad with Neutron RC Whoop sized AIO. Didnt have the time to plug it in and flash already but would have stumbled upon the driver issue 😂 with your video in mind it will be a lot faster.
Speedybee has been a well known option for budget stacks. I dont know why hardly anyone talks about JHEMCU stacks. They have been my go to for a while. Even lower price than speedybee. Now If these budget companys start using the AT32 chips, whats a stack going to cost in future? Like 30 bucks instead of already low price 60 bucks for a stack. Oh god, I'll be building even more quads 😅
My experience with a Jhemcu 5a whoop board is that wifi that it was supposed to have did not excist due to some mistake in design and later on any mention of it was removed from documentation. The pcb trace that was intended as antenna is clearly visible. The esc part smoked after few flights, replaced the mosfets on 3 of them, then the fourth one blew up aswell. Replaced those aswell and now its been running fine without any changes in tune or motors/props.
JHEMCU has very hit or miss QC some people get lucky , others not so much , I think because it's always such a risky buy people just don't recommend them that much
So far I have tried 2 different F435 based flight controllers from 2 different manufacturers (including this one). Both had CPUs that overheated on the bench with just the flight controller plugged in to USB power.
@@ChrisCroft77 Can you tell me what temperature your flight controller cpu runs at when on the bench (as reported by the betaflight configurator) after it's been left on to warm up for a while? Thanks.
I actually saw that fc on ali a couple of days ago. Thought it was some really old fc based on the color :P Nice to see a move to lower prices. Hope the escs can follow suit. Oh and motors of course.
Is your follow up video on the AT32 ready? Really like to know how they perform in the field. Do you know if there are AT32 based AIO coming in the future?
small nitpick, don't mix up your megaBITS to your megaBYTES, Megabytes are 8 times bigger. It's also not the best idea to compare different CPU families' clock speeds, as the M7 has a different pipeline and can optionally have cache which can potentially make it more efficient at the same clock speed.
When will manufacturers finally drop the OSD chips 🤷🏼♂️ Gives more pads, more room for power filtering whatever and saves some bucks or do I miss smth? Osd could be fitted as some time ago as separate board or not for people still doing analog?
When 50% of the market are not flying analog. The issue with removing the analog OSD chip means retailers would need to stock twice as many lines and the chance of you getting the one you want is reduced, which is OK for digital pilots, but would suck for analog pilots and would probably mean less or more wildlly fluctuating sales for retailers. I imagine there would be slightly more complexity for manufacturers too, but I assume they can use the same board, so the complexity for the manufacturer would be less.
I mostly use HDZero and Walksnail, but still love analog. Agree that vendors need to have two versions of FC, one with OSD and one w/o, but this chips costs 1$ on their scale and +0.5 gram for weight, so likely nobody will invest in separation
@@VolodymyrMoon yes its marginal but a little more real estate for pad sizes would be a good thing. Also having more room for better power filtering could improve gyro signal.
Great video. Eager to see SpeedyBee jump on this and make their stacks even cheaper.
Thanks!
Ive been flying the Iflight AT32 for 2 months now. Works great! Cant wait for more options. I don't see myself buying any other FC again. Price to performance this is the best FC you can get.
almost trashing my neutron fc wont flashed to 4.5, ur tutorial was helping me, thanks
Thanks a lot Ian! I am right now building a quad with Neutron RC Whoop sized AIO. Didnt have the time to plug it in and flash already but would have stumbled upon the driver issue 😂 with your video in mind it will be a lot faster.
I have the NeutronRC AIO and build a 3 inch racing quad and it’s taken a beating and still working fine.
which board you use for AIO?
@@jonathanoeijoeng the 35a one with AM32 firmware.
@@ChrisCroft77hi mate, I wonder if neutronrc esc that use am32, is 32bit esc ?
@ i have 2 NeutronRC ones I have are AM32 ESCs. But they also had version with they own fork with locked boot loader so couldn’t flash back to AM32.
Great overview, thanks, competition is always good...😳😏😀🇬🇧
With F722 pricing, it is difficult to understand why one wouldn't just go to the H7 at that point.
Thanks for keeping us informed!!!
Great video and awesome development in the hobby!
Speedybee has been a well known option for budget stacks.
I dont know why hardly anyone talks about JHEMCU stacks. They have been my go to for a while. Even lower price than speedybee.
Now If these budget companys start using the AT32 chips, whats a stack going to cost in future? Like 30 bucks instead of already low price 60 bucks for a stack.
Oh god, I'll be building even more quads 😅
Tell us more about the JHEMCU please
My experience with a Jhemcu 5a whoop board is that wifi that it was supposed to have did not excist due to some mistake in design and later on any mention of it was removed from documentation. The pcb trace that was intended as antenna is clearly visible. The esc part smoked after few flights, replaced the mosfets on 3 of them, then the fourth one blew up aswell. Replaced those aswell and now its been running fine without any changes in tune or motors/props.
@@rehepeks thanks for sharing. From my experience all 5A aio suck. I got a whole bunch of dead 5A aio. Doesn't matter what manufacturor.
They're hit and miss. I've bought enough to say this
JHEMCU has very hit or miss QC some people get lucky , others not so much , I think because it's always such a risky buy people just don't recommend them that much
The iFlight Blitz Mini FC's "no connect" pin is same as on the STM32 chip. STM32 also has that pin floating.
So far I have tried 2 different F435 based flight controllers from 2 different manufacturers (including this one). Both had CPUs that overheated on the bench with just the flight controller plugged in to USB power.
@@christophertelford I have 2 with no issues and even racing on hot summer days here in Australia.
@@ChrisCroft77 Can you tell me what temperature your flight controller cpu runs at when on the bench (as reported by the betaflight configurator) after it's been left on to warm up for a while? Thanks.
Thank´s for that great video and information!
Thanks mate! 👍😉
I actually saw that fc on ali a couple of days ago. Thought it was some really old fc based on the color :P
Nice to see a move to lower prices. Hope the escs can follow suit. Oh and motors of course.
Love the price.. wish it was kiss ultra tho😂.. running behind the shields now waiting for the incoming shots😂 😮
Load weapons 😀😂
ARM also licenses the Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) to companies that design their own cores.
Yes largely what Apple does.
My FC board is a neutonRC here (Can),
not nutronRC
Thanks for the video!
Interesting to that the chip price difference is 10$, but the fc price goes from 100$ down to 30$....
Is it there anyway to flash inav on this flight controller?
Thanks for all the info, Ian! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Is your follow up video on the AT32 ready? Really like to know how they perform in the field. Do you know if there are AT32 based AIO coming in the future?
In April or May。
We needs stack for 30$!
thanks mads tech
You're welcome!
Where are the links to these new FC's?
Just Google AT32 flight controller
Hello, i use this fc for 3inch drone alfarc herbie 125... With esc mamba f35, motor 1404 4800kv... Can u help me to setting this fc pls...
Always a winner bro does AT32 have a ca.n bus bro
Hey m not finding neutronrc f435mini firmware..beta flight detects it but doesn't detect firmware
Oh here we go back to Zadig again. I don't suppose it works on a Mac? Oh well probably worth it to get back to reasonable prices again.
I did not see Mac drivers but let me check more.
I didn’t need any special drivers on my Mac. Just worked. :) ( I had to set the configurator to show all devices as per instructions. )
I'll be using the SpeedyBee/Betaflight app on a phone. I always have good luck with it.
small nitpick, don't mix up your megaBITS to your megaBYTES, Megabytes are 8 times bigger. It's also not the best idea to compare different CPU families' clock speeds, as the M7 has a different pipeline and can optionally have cache which can potentially make it more efficient at the same clock speed.
Thumbs up
When will manufacturers finally drop the OSD chips 🤷🏼♂️
Gives more pads, more room for power filtering whatever and saves some bucks or do I miss smth? Osd could be fitted as some time ago as separate board or not for people still doing analog?
When 50% of the market are not flying analog. The issue with removing the analog OSD chip means retailers would need to stock twice as many lines and the chance of you getting the one you want is reduced, which is OK for digital pilots, but would suck for analog pilots and would probably mean less or more wildlly fluctuating sales for retailers.
I imagine there would be slightly more complexity for manufacturers too, but I assume they can use the same board, so the complexity for the manufacturer would be less.
I mostly use HDZero and Walksnail, but still love analog. Agree that vendors need to have two versions of FC, one with OSD and one w/o, but this chips costs 1$ on their scale and +0.5 gram for weight, so likely nobody will invest in separation
@@1337flite OSDs can be added via UART, so not a biggie and vendors don't have to stock two versions
@@VolodymyrMoon yes its marginal but a little more real estate for pad sizes would be a good thing. Also having more room for better power filtering could improve gyro signal.
@@jas-FPV Fully agree. Had so many issues with electrical noise on fcs lately.
Lets get a review of the AIO also NeutronRC AT32F435 mini AIO
Works pretty good. I have on 3 inch racing quad and I had no issues crashing all day and using turtle mode on grass. I am running on 4s
Why would you use their £20 fc when you can get a full aio for just £15 more?
because aios are shit? at least for most builds you would want a seperate esc...
What aio are you getting for 20$ more that actually has an esc that can handle a 5”
@@seanmetzger4780 neutronrc at32f435
The NeutronRC AT32F435 Mini Aio 35a
Coz AIOs suck?
The aio fcs are cheap and well built
Ah not just me thinking that then lol
why on earth did they choose "AT" ?? That's been ATMEL for 2 decades now. AY ATY TY .. all fine but AT .. that's wickedly annoying
This video was CRITICAL when NeutronRC's own instructions had broken links and terrible explanations
A shill for your FPV WIKI. when will it end?
Never
Just leaving comments for the algorithm. Seeing as though I'm a shill for numbers
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