Heavens Gate - Student Exit Statements
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2016
- Testimony given by members of heavens gate prior to their group suicide. Uploaded for automated transcript creation.
00:18 - SRRODY
05:50 - QSTODY
09:31 - YRSODY
10:55 - WKNODY
12:50 - LVVODY
14:20 - JNNODY
18:15 - DSTODY
22:30 - SLVODY
26:20 - STRODY
26:44 - GLNODY
30:45 - ANLODY
33:40 - DMMODY
36:27 - BRNODY
37:53 - SMMODY
41:05 - PRSODY
43:36 - MLLODY
50:04 - JWNODY
53:15 - NRRODY
54:07 - CHKODY
58:40 - SNGODY
01:03:45 - GLDODY
01:06:49 - OLLODY
01:12:45 - JMMODY
01:13:42 - DVVODY
01:15:38 - TDDODY
01:17:32 - DRRODY
01:24:00 - SNNODY
01:28:42 - STMODY
01:33:10 - STLODY
01:39:10 - TRSODY
01:42:38 - WNDODY
01:45:34 - ALXODY
01:47:24 - VRNODY
01:49:12 - TLLODY
01:51:51 - LGGODY
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Video should never be removed. It holds profound educational value to the fields of Sociology, Psychology, Psychiatry and Theology. Absolutely terrifying. The members appear clinically brainwashed and robotic. Condolences to the families and survivors of Cult trauma. Tragic and senseless loss of life.
Religion really Feaks me out even thinking adults believe in a higher being scares me that's why I've never practiced something so ridiculous
Very well said. Tragic history needs to be rembered, studied and prevented from happening in the future.
You are right. It is a very important document.
"clinically brainwashed"?
@@macglencoe9852 "institutionalized" in appearance
When Lvvody, at 13:45, with her voice quavering, shows real human emotion, obviously contemplating her death, she is "pulled back into line" by the collective derisive laughter of the group, which denies both her humanity and dignity. Icy, eerie and terrifying!
Well said. Heartbreaking.
Its like very bad canned laughter on a sitcom. The one next to her even turns to her as if talking. Very sad
I thought the exact same thing.. it was so unsettling
14:45. The woman explains that the leader "pushed out" people who showed dissent, and that's why is okay because all the people who stayed didn't show dissent so obviously its all okay she says.
No recognition that what she is describing is "splitting behavior" and meant to isolated a victim from alternative opinions and voices who may influence them away from the one who is manipulating them.
Yes yes yes. I'm so pleased you made that comment. I felt exactly the same when I watched that moment... it's was so deeply unsettling and hints at the deep disregard that the group had for their own humanity.
What terrifies me about this is how intelligent and articulate all of these people are. It just goes to show that anybody can be manipulated into doing something like this
Back then, people in general were more eloquent, articulate, it seems.
More insightful and articulate than their leader.
@@sunwukong7567 back then when?...25 years ago is not so many time ago...u got articulate people nowadays as well...
Yes, he manipulated and controlled them. He also gave them a feeling of belonging, he made them feel special and chosen for this "mission." It is beyond sad.
they already had hate for this world thats all do do bird needed to slip them the cocktail this is not rocket science
In order to once again humanize these faces... here are all their names;
Judith Rowland, Cheryl Butcher, David Van Sinderen, Alan Bowers, Margaret Bull, Alphonzo Foster, David Moore, Julie LaMontagne, Darwin Lee Johnson, Robert Arancio,
Gary Jordon St. Louis, Ladonna Brugato, Joel Peter McCormick, Gail Maeder, Thomas Nichols, John Craig, Margaret Richter, Susan Elizabeth Nora Paup, Michael Barr Sandoe, Norma Jeanne Nelson, Suzanne Cooke, Jaqueline Leonard, Susan Strom,
Yvonne McCurdy-Hill, Denise J. Thurman, Lindley Ayerhart, Jeffrey Howard Lewis,
Erika Ernst, Lucy Eva Pesho, Joyce Skalla
And of course the their leader Marshall Herff Applewhite (Do)
May they all rest well 💟
Thank you
Bit of class doing that, it makes them human and individual, which is how they should be remembered.
Rest well? They’re riding a freakin spaceship!
Thank you. One of the victims of this cult was a childhood friend of mine. Such a terrible waste of a kind and intelligent person's life!
@@mercherolvaag4717could have done and accomplished so so much more here in her "vehicle" then listening to some pathetic excuse me if you will coocoo bird 🐦 brainwashing cult leader who is so unhappy in his own vehicle, as someone said 1 suicide and 38 murders.
“There were 38 murders and 1 suicide”
That’s deep
I'm pretty sure the creepy leader guy couldn't even do it himself and had the other members off him
@@pribilovian4709 Hes still responsible for all of their deaths. He indoctrinated them with his insane ramblings and convinced them that death was their only choice for their souls to survive. He killed himself, but he also, in a way, killed the other 38 who died with him.
@orange_turtle3412 oh I know he's responsible...a video I seen tho said he didn't drink the kool-aid or whatever and had some of the guys put a bag over his head instead...I dont know if thats true, I will never know but just wanted to point out how hypocritical it was of him if it is true
@@pribilovian4709 The Kool Aid is a completely different cult. These guys killed themselves with phenobarbital and vodka. But yes, there was a guy who suffocated the leader (and the others who needed it) with a bag and “organized” the bodies before he killed himself last.
Kind souls. Nothing but love for all of them.
Agreed. They all thought they were doing the right thing and never wanted to hurt anybody
thank you, i was reading some of the comments and yours made me stop looking, you said what needed to be said..
❤❤❤
How can you love someone you never met?
Even Applewhite, who brainwashed 39 innocent and sick people to their death?
Chkody (Erika Ernst) 52:46 joined with her long term boyfriend Frank Lyford at the age of 21 and didn’t choose to leave with him after 18 years. Frank is now 66 and lives in Kansas as a life coach. He has given multiple interviews and says the trauma has left him with a lasting speech impediment. So sad for all involved. 🥺
He likes to also play a lot of different instruments. Wasn't he the one that the tapes were mailed to?
its really unnerving to watch these goodbye messages knowing that these were the last moments of them ever being seen alive. this is really hard to watch, my heart goes out for the victims and their families. ive learned so much about this cult recently, and it's shocking how fragile the human psyche is, and how vulnerable these people were to being brainwashed by Applewhite, and Nettles when she was alive.
The last time they were seen alive was at a diner. They were all in uniform and had a uniform last meal of sweet tea, cheesecake and a Marie Calender pot pie. The server who attended their tables was reported as being 'highly disturbed by the event'.
What I find highly disturbing is the scripture connection here. "I am the way and the light" at the time of annihilation for a Heaven's Gate member and Jonestowns' end days quote from John 15: 13 "Greater love hath man than this, that a man should lay down his life for his friends."
Kinda fucked that Christianity could be perverted by such monsters as Jim Jones and Marshall Applewhite.
....the point is that they were all very humble people, well educated not evil at all but Marshall Alpelwhite somehow hipnotized them and persuaded to the level that they really believe that after death they will change body an fly to another planet...they even cried when they were talking about this event, so much they were convinced and emotional... incredible indeed....
This whole video seems very eerie to me I get the chills when I watch it...
It’s called natural selection and it’s ok. Imagine people teaching their children this utter bs.
Also kinda fucked that this nonsense can be perceived as being any different from the nonsense in the bible and many other similar works of fiction. Humans are bizarre creatures.
A lot of these poor people were just outcasted from society and were looking for a place to belong. You can tell some of them in this video were starting to have second thoughts but probably wouldn't dare say a thing because they didn't wanna lose the respect of who they thought were their only friends and companions
Watching this we should all make an effort to be nicer to people who are considered "odd" or "outcasts." All humans need to feel acceptance and the lunatics who run these scam cults prey on this. It's sad watching their "happiness" which is actually a lifelong cry they felt for belonging.
They didn't do it cause they where depressed they did it cause they where Koo koo
What a bland response. You’re an idiot
1:06:40 The saddest of them all
You are not sad for them. Your empty words will not be followed by actions.
@Dennis Plum : You like every other slob, only loves their immediate family. And stop babbling about Evolution, you creep.
The kid on the right in the first interview seemed like such a sweet kid. I wonder if he had been bullied. People who have his disposition usually are. He really touched my heart; such a beautiful smile. This world is very cruel.
I would lean towards yes. Applewhite and Nettles recruited a lot of people that were considered outcasts and didn't really have a lot of friends.
@@N00019thats not true, they didnt recruit outcasts.
@jamesgardner6707 are you being serious? They were all total nutcases!!!!
@@jamesgardner6707weak brain, can’t think for themselves, need someone to follow, yeah that’s an outcast.
@@jamesgardner6707evidence?
1:47:25 Poor kid. You get the sense he had no idea of what was going on…
“No matter what happens or what it is, I’m just gonna trust my older members” etc. ugh.
Ouch. Thanks for pointing that out, I wasn't going to sit through the whole 2 hours. That's shocking.
He just wanted the older members' respect.
Look at how he looks at the man with him. The sheer admiration on his face.
I get the feeling some of the people in this group were intellectually disabled. Smiley Srrody with the big glasses at the beginning just has such a childlike innocence about him, as does the kid in purple. He even talked about himself as being the "cause of problems".
@@crazycrittergirl7672 that guy was an assembly programmer, so definitely not mentally challenged, maybe more like socially challenged
@@crazycrittergirl7672 both this young man and srrody were castrated. just letting you know
The paradox of this is so wild. I don't even know if that's a strong enough word for what's happening here, but the LITERAL CONTRAST of these alive and well, bubbly and personable, witty and even funny people.. with oodles of potential..
against the beautiful background of the video- nature being naturally awesome, the birds chirping, and the whole Earth just sitting behind them to give them everything it has to offer.
I remember playing pretend, and that feeling that you really do get from being immersed in an entire world of your own imagination and creation is unforgettable. Fantasy can be intoxicating.
Coming out of that "trance" and remembering that the box was just a box and not a spaceship left a feeling of disappointment, maybe even emptiness. The real world can certainly seem boring in comparison. I would imagine this is similar in a way, at least on a very basic level.
It's beyond unfortunate that the larger-than-life figures that scooped them up and carried them away weren't ones who would use their combined influence to show them all the things we can do outside of the box.
Right here, right now, in this life here on Earth.
Well writtem
great post
Absolutely. Absolutely 😓
This just sincerely goes to show how fragile the human mind really is,
Sort of. But at the same time it is unheard of for any other species to self destruct in the quest of an idea. It's inherently contradictory with evolution
@@bendikklungsyr2393 wow , thats true, good point
@@rogerbelger2014 Cheers bud
@@bendikklungsyr2393 Umm gonna explain that ?
@@gowdsake7103 i mean what species kill themselves for the purpose of an abstract idea. evolutionary we are scared of death and programmed to wanna survive. i know there are exceptions, but this is not the same as a suicide from depression or an irratonal act of affection...
“Lvvody” looks and sounds utterly FRIGHTENED at 13:45 and doesn’t even crack a smile or nervously join the laughter of the members watching behind the camera as she talks about her imminent suicide. This completely contradicts the narrative about the peace, happiness, and free will with which these poor souls were coerced to take their own lives. So sad.
Actually she was extremely excited and extremely grateful to be part of this group and to have the opportunity to live her vehicle and to go to the next level...
@@matiasnigrum1348 No snark intended; just curious. Are you a former member of the group?
She was actually one of the last to die
To me it looked more like she had a strong emotional moment rather than fear
@@katakovacs2066 Shes saying she couldnt be happier about what shes about to do, being emotional doesnt mean she was happy, she was frightened
I am most disturbed by the fact that they all seem happier than me lol
Imagine if you were told tomorrow you will inherit 1billion and sail the rest of your life on a extravagant yacht for the rest of your life and believed it. I bet you'd be happy af about tomorrow.
They were in a state of permanent hypnosis. It’s like asking why a suicide bomber is happy before doing his ‘mission.’ It’s mind rape
These people,.. didn't want to die,..they enjoyed each other's company because they were lonely and Lost Souls !!! They were coerced into smiling on the video. They were just as afraid of anyone there to take their own lives.
I disagree. I believe that some of them truly believed that suicide would bring them to the other side Like Mr. Applewhite and SRRODY. Most of them had some mental issues that caused them to be manipulated easily.
they didnt want to be here because of their hate for this earth thats all do needed to slip them the cocktail
No, they wanted this. You clearly didn't watch the video and have little knowledge of the circumstances.
@@aka_rook youre just projectiong your own lack of information
This is really sad, but these people care more about the next level and ti and do than their own children. Not all had kids, but the ones who did it’s just sickening.
They must have been suffering deep down inside whether they realized or not. Many people have committed suicide that seem like they had it all. In the end it is senseless to pass judgement on such things. One's time too will come. Enjoy you moment.
This is heartbreaking 💔 This is a prime example of the dangers of groupthink.
What do you mean they escaped their human shell and their souls made it to the spaceship through hale-bopp comet
Read, "Overcoming the Archon through Alchemy" discusses the quantum science of groupthink and how big governments use it even to this day.
"Groupthink" is what forced them to look for a cult in the first place.
These people felt like outcasts and odd and out of place because their society made them feel that way.
It was our weird obsession with "normal" and "right" that forced them into the arms of a sociopath.
Their cult wasn't the death nail. We were.
We cringe at the unusual and different.
Exactly@@ryancraig9352
@@ryancraig9352 "It was our weird obsession with "normal" and "right" that forced them into the arms of a sociopath.
Their cult wasn't the death nail. We were.
We cringe at the unusual and different."
I'm cringing so hard at your comment, that's for sure. This was manipulative people taking advantage of mentally unsound people, clearly culling from people with severe but nonviolent antisocial disorders.
'We' are not the villains here, guy. The group thought 'don't join crazy cults and commit suicide' and they didn't listen to that sound advice. Because either they didn't have a support network of family and friends to prevent them from making a bad decision or they were alienated against those people. BY people who use the exact language you're using. By saying that it's 'society that's rejecting you because it's so cruel'.
Seriously re-fucking think what you wrote there.
If my vehicle is breaking down I go to a mechanic.
1:08:47 this guy breaks my heart more than anyone else. “This vehicle had dreamed of going to Ireland some day”
He had a sizeable trust fund that he gave to the group. It kept them going for a good few years apparently. I think he came from a privileged background but just wanted to do something different with his life. Unfortunately he ended up joining this group and it somehow fulfilled his needs
@@Mark-lj1dj alright, so he was the trust fund guy? Yes, it kept them going from 75 to around 1980
45:14 “The idea you can become something in this world and make a difference is an illusion.” An attempt at an intelligent explanation for this, but really a signal of despair and hopelessness.
Star Trek actress Nichelle Nichols' brother was one of the members who died. His name was Thomas Nichols. I believe he was the guy in the video called Dstody.
Yes
Idk who that is....I know Jodum Fatscrotum.
Correct
These people were dead long before making these “Exit Videos”
Napoleon Hill once said '' IT IS WELL KNOW FACT THAT ONE COMES, FINALLY, TO BELIEVE WHATEVER ONE REPEATS TO ONE'S SELF, WHETHER THE STATEMENT BE TRUE OR FALSE. IF A MAN REPEATS A LIE OVER & OVER, HE EVENTUALLY ACCEPT THE LIE AS A TRUTH.
And I believe this applies even to the afterlife. You can see it in accounts of NDEs.
I feel nothing but pure, unadulterated sympathy for all these people. May they rest in peace, and truly hope they found what they were looking for and that life on the other side is more peaceful and happy than life on earth had been to them. This truly depressed me because I felt so sorry for these people. I have never seen the faces for the cult members, so this is the first time I've seen them. Don't know if this is all of them, but, man, do I feel sorry for these people and I'm sure if I knew any of them, at work or church or whatever, I would certainly try to be nice to them, because that's the way I was brought up, to be nice to people. The Golden Rule. Anyway, these people are breaking my heart. I also didn't realize there were women in the group, in fact, more women than men. I always thought it was a cult of nothing but men.
If you have HBO Max, they just came out with a documentary about the cult. Heaven's Gate: The Cult of Cults. Very good, give it a watch.
@@mmmcoffeetogo are there any scenes of it on RUclips?
i feel sorry for you
@@blu3_enjoy ?
Nice virtue signaling…love it. How many starving and sick people did you feed or care for today again? Hypocrite.
I can't help but notice the beautiful trees and the sounds of the birds in the surrounding trees, surely the questioned that where they are is some what of a blessing in some way? I'd stay put
That chick at 26:00 even refers to being outside the cult as the real world, she knew she was living in a delusion, that the cult wasn't real. It's sad how much some people want to be a part of something.
When I listen to a only heard her say “the world” I don’t think she used the phrase “real world”
Tragic just shows you how powerful your mind is to believe anything in this world .
🎯🎯🎯
One of the wildest things about this is that the majority of what they say does not sound crazy at all, and sounds very much like the religion I was raised in, Mormonism. The only difference is that they were asked to commit suicide literally instead of only figuratively as Mormons do.
I already knew I was raised in a cult, but the fact that these testimonies literally feel THE SAME as Mormon testimonies with a few different words
Except it sounds nothing like Mormonism and you gave no proof lol!
@@swaglike2802 didn't realize it was required to post a bibliography for a RUclips comment lol. Go look it up yourself if you care. In my opinion it sounds very similar. That's the end of my RUclips comment
@@PrincessMicrowave i mean you already posted a novel! Why would a few examples be so hard nerd!! It's because you don't know what you talking about!!
I too grew up Mormon and had the exact same feeling listening to them. They way they buttress their statements with “I know there will be some who think that x.” The way they walk about having an undeniable experience telling them it is true. The way they bear testimony. The way they speak of the world vs their higher understanding, etc. really really scary.
I'm actually preparing an episode for my podcast about mormonism on these guys because their testimonies are so eerily similar
These people obviously felt very very lost in the real world and were desperate to belong !
And they seem so sweet. Can't understand how they feel safe following Applewhite. Had I walked into a church and he was speaking I'd run like hell🏃
As are most members of a church
The woman that starts at 1:03:49 has adopted gestures, characteristics of several others in the group, the followers. It's noticeable after you watch this video a few times. Cadence, mannerisms, and content of what she says. She's impressionable.
The youngest member listed that passed was 26 and I’m betting that’s her. Sad, I wouldn’t have felt nearly as bad if they were all 40+ but she’s my age now (I was born the year this happened) and I’m just starting to become a real person with my own thoughts. So sad.
e.g., her points and the lilt or tones of them are exactly like Gail's.
Why does she have like panda 🐼 eyes 👀 looking like some signs of abuse
@@jaidenlroman9909Metal issues for sure.
@@acorinne787Nope, she was 40 years old. Youngest member was VRNODY 01:47:24
For the most part they seem so totally relaxed, at peace, and so utterly certain. This kind of faith is jarring, especially in light of what happened next. I hope they're out there, zipping through the cosmos!
4:38 "Somebody on the other side of this camera watching this tape would probably say, _What's going on? You all must not have a life. Or, you're deluded, or you're brainwashed."_ Yeah, well.
That’s exactly what I’m thinking
Wow that guy near the end looked only 19 or so. So sad...
That's true, too young and so sad...
he was 26. Michael barr sandoe
Listening to these people, they never actually say anything substative. What did they actually believe? They don't ever actually say much about it or explain their theology in a systematic way. I've listened to alot of this and still have no idea what they believed.
Luke S. Seems to focus more on the idea that they weren't forced to off themselves
Your only chance is to leave with them .
It's not about them it's about the man that they believe in. This is dangerous and happening right now on RUclips!
Exactly! The first man literally read a script!
Try getting ANY theist to do that
The "next level" is going from existence to non existence!! Very sad!!
Honestly it wouldn’t be sad since you wouldn’t even consciously know. You would go back to a state of existence before you were born. It’s the ultimate form of bliss
Theres A podcast called Heavens Gate, hosted by Glynn Washington, it's 10 episodes, he does an excellent job discussing the entire madness that is Heavens Gate.
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll surely check it out
Definitely going to check it out
Thanks for the info about the podcast. Might look it up.
I'm not going to look it up.
Yeah, it was a great series. Catchy intro music too lol
I did love hearing about their daily tasks and schedules
If Roy Scheider was part of the group, his name would be Chief Br-ody.
Haha... Good stuff, mate 😁
😂😂😂😂
The group castration move actually shocked me worse than the suicides.
Let's be real, it's not like they were ever going to use them. Look at them.
Not after being made to appear more androgenic, no@@Vulhala
The same here.
I need people who are this enthusiastic and dedicated on my sales team
Omg…I’m a salesman. I was a rockstar because everyone else was not nearly as like able and outgoing. I killed it while every other salesman was doing seminars and crap like that because they couldn’t hit their quota. Now I’m trying to start my own company and am very sad because I can’t find people like me. Not even close and I have to find them for this to work. If you are in sales you will know that this is just the way it is and it is not conceited or smug to state these facts
Haha
@@matthewcasagrande231 nobody cares.
lol
Hope you found some decent people to join your capitalist death-cult
Have you noticed that people in cults always say it is of their own free chossing, which seems legit on paper, but really it isnt. The cult can be small like this one or it could have tens of millions of members.
Some cults have hundreds of millions
My word, my heart breaks for them.
I know!!!! My heart breaks for them, too.
No it does not
@@spiritualityanimals3760 what do you mean my friend?
@@prof2yousmithe444 : There is no love in this world. People only love another if they are their immediate family. There are no friends just lies and pretense.
@@spiritualityanimals3760 false. This world was created by God and God is love. If you don't experience love on a day to day basis then that is because you don't have God. It has to begin with us, we show God's love through us to others. Even a child knows it is all about love, it is the reason we are here because God loved us first and gave us life.
If your friends don't show you love then you need to move on! There are plenty more fish in the sea. Spiritual growth is when you can love others unconditionally with no hope of return, you can do this through God (Jesus Christ) as His love is overflowing. When we look to Him and His love for us (which never fails) then we can constantly be loving and show love to others. Amen!
we should teach children critical thinking in their schools,very important skill for life,
so even if their upbringing is wrong,they have a chance to resist these kinds of manipulation.
i have never seen so much nervous crying in adults,as with these people,or as many "catch phrases "used in their brainwashing(,repeating the same words and phrases)
Probably have a common sense lesson in school in combination with critical thinking. Because with common sense, you can figure out how bizarre the claims of DO are. Just looking at the names of the people, it is just bizarre how something like this can start in the first place.
@@codingvio7383 Common sense is seldom common, so critical thinking is way more important.
I don't think religious organisations would appreciate that kind of education
Well now they're teaching kids in school that you can be a man, woman, they, it, why, how, thing, them, donkey, mouse, unicorn, alien, whatever you can think of...as long as you "identify" as so, its ok...
Sooooo...yeahhhhh...we're screwed🤦♂️
@@pribilovian4709Actually, gender identity isn't taught in school, but it should. Gender is created by society, so there should be no specific parameters. If someone feels comfortable being referred to with they/them pronouns, you should keep referring to them as they/them. If someone has a different preferred name from the one they were given at birth, you should refer to them as that. It's just common human decency.
Note that all of Do's flock are wearing wedding rings. They "married" their cult leader. This would bind the cult members all the way to their death.
They are married to Ti. Who passed away in 85.
Never noticed the rings
Man, some horrifically insensitive comments. These people were taken advantage of after being persecuted by people like you their whole lives. I feel so much sympathy for these people.
Agreed
@Josh Traffanstedt Yup, and they seem to narrow-minded to try to understand anyone at a deeper level before judging and dismissing them..
Its what religion does to millions every single day
way to pin it on everyone else. "people like you" ??
people like us.
Does you feeling sympathy make these retards any less dead?
As a lifelong atheist, the power cults and religion hold over peoples minds scares the shit out of me. To just throw your life away for one crazy man is insane. This video is fascinating yet scary, thanks for uploading it.
1:55:06 - "the proof is in the pudding." THAT was funny.
Dropping hints
Yes. I couldn't believe that.
These poor souls
Sighs SOULS really ? You and your myths is what did this to them
I heard the first guy, Srrody, was a hella computer programmer back in the day. HBO dumentary, I think. One of the two surviving members of Heaven's Gate mentioned it.
They all look hypnotised, R.I.P, Can't think of what they families went through
That was a fresh jacket the first dude was wearing.
Not as fresh as his Nikes
that 80s swag
@@darkjak224 Yeah the resell prices on those are crazy
@@nightsheran Facts.
which one ?. the 1 who talks first was the one who had to DIY ( with the help of the nurse in the group ) LLVODY. Genital removal! .
People are blaming Applewhite but when you look into it, the castration was a group idea, he gave them time to back out and people did leave before the suicides. He had expressed doubts in his beliefs previously that the group helped him overcome.
I find it more disturbing that it wasn’t a Manson type with one evil guy influencing the rest. The two started it but the members kept it going and fed back into each other, they weren’t forced by anything, they all convinced each other.
One can talk themselves in and out of almost anything if you WANT. IT's why scripture says the heart is deceptive and to trust in His Word, not your own understanding.
Exactly! I don't know why people tend to make applewhite the evil guy in this story. I think there was only one bad person and that was Ti. She was the one suggested these ideas to Do and she was the one who made member left their families while she was still talking with her daughter behind their back. After her death members went home but they chose to comeback together and continue their cult. At one point Do, applewhite, says he doesn't know how to continue their mission but the members pursue him to do that. They all pushed each other to this and they chose this themselves. I only have sympathy for families.
"Older member" "vehicle"
"Next level" im sick these words...
This is worse than staring at the results of a fatal car crash as you drive by.
Trsody seems so sweet and innocent. I feel something for all of them, but him especially.
🥺
you can tell they're brain washed because of how hard they're trying to convince themselves this is the right thing to do. look how hard they're trying to make sense of it.
No
I think they’re just really trying to make sure people don’t think they’re crazy and that everyone understands that they are content and chose this path
@@Sarah-qx4vz exactly
To dismiss is as something else is were the real ignorance and danger lies
Idk I wouldn’t consider that brainwashing. Yeah like Emma said, they were just trying to be concise and held conviction and passion
The one and only one positive thing you can say about this unsettling cult is that, unlike in a jonestown for example nobody kept you there by force. If you wanted it out you could've quit at any moment. These people really chose their fate and if they went out happy with it, then good for them.
They had beautiful souls and highly intelegant !! Sad they believed so much in this man .. listening yo each of them i personally like them all except the evil man himself .. r. I. P
The more I learn about Heaven's Gate the more I respect these people and their choice.
My heart breaks for these people. I hope they rest in peace. I feel like at the end of the day they all needed psychiatric help but were headed in the worst direction.
YOU may be thats your problem
@@gowdsake7103 English please?
@@Zeromusicvideos They were religiously indoctrinated. By saying your heart breaks I suspect you are too
@@gowdsake7103 I still don’t know what you’re talking about….
@@Zeromusicvideos I know but thats your problem not mine.
If only they noticed how nature was trying to warn them of the danger ahead of them
The crows. Unsettling.
Qstody, the first one noticed. @1:30
Crazy !!
I noticed that too. The birds were singing so hard, it’s like they were trying to remind them of how beautiful life is and to not throw it away.
I really like their lawn chairs. 39 By Design sizzles it.
Such beautiful people. Sad they’re all gone and didn’t find something worth living for here on earth.
Dstody is actually Nichelle Nichols brother if y’all didn’t know that
It is almost convincing hearing the people, but when Applebottom starts speaking I get creeper out. He is the embodiment of Lucifer. I also heard he was a great musician a decorated one at that.
The first dude was literally reading a script. Very unsettling.
Why unsettling? Some people just like to use notes as an aid to public speaking.
They think ti and do are from the next level😥
Put this on for the family at Christmas time
2nd to last guy was condescending as hell lol, but I still feel bad for him just as much as the other 37 victims.
The saddest part of all this is the fulfillment of the holy scriptures. (Jonestown, Heavens Gate, etc)
“Many will come in my name, calling themselves Christ, and will deceive many” Matthew 24:5
Haircuts to fit spacehelmets. Nice.
The next level is the next minute.
“When they took them up into the spaceship, the aliens abused them…SEXUALLY.”
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@@terrortorycadaver5366🤔
Independence Day lmfao
Saw what you did there
at least they found what so much of us die without… peace, happiness, and belonging (unfortunate where they found it)
Well said.
@@kingdomlevelabovehuman8290 it's all an illusion anyway. i wonder if crazy homeless people are happy in whatever world they're living in... probably better than the real one anyway.
They died as lost as they had ever been. If not, more. And on top of that, that traded their lives to hurl themselves into the abyss denying the God they claimed to serve. This cult blasphemed the holy name of the Lord. Furthermore, they laid down their life for an idol. This is the clearest definition of dying in your sin. Being happy about your death is not a win if what find on the other side is an eternity on Hell!
@@michaellockett4044 prove it.
@@michaellockett4044 Ohh get you ! your delusion is superior to theirs and yet you will NEVER justify yours will you ?
its so sad to see how excited many of them are
I remember this case. It was all over tv. What it comes down to, is that it's the same as the jim jones case. Only that case he killed 900 adults and kids
Nah Jim Jones forced suicide these people did it at their own choice
Not the same at all.
This is sad . The key to life is living.
I loved what you wrote, Big Up Life!
tell that to all them yogis and meditators who sit in the same spot for hours upon hours per day doing nothing
51:50 is creepy as hell.
It's really strange to read these comments. People calling them selfish for feeling alone, people condemning them to hell, people calling them stupid, devoid of sympathy or understanding. All the same kinds of remarks and attitudes that likely influenced these people to seek refuge away from society and end up falling for a mad man's promises. How sad.
From what I've seen these people look like they are from another world.
I'll wonder what they're doing now oooooo aahhhhhh summer nights
My word. Talk about an "exit interview" to end all exit interviews.
In due time we will meet 🙏
Imagine if he was really an alien, and he did transfer them to his ship, but instead of being this peaceful god-alien he pretended to be, he turned out to be an inter-galactic slaver? Imagine the look on their faces if they were really transferred to his ship to realize they've been duped!
This is heart breaking
These people are true patriots and heroes, I was in this group but I left a year before they all passed. I will see them again
Ok pal
Imagine dying of natural causes, murder, or suicide on the same day this happened and you're all cramped on the same spaceship.
Free haircuts and death...free haircuts and death....who’s next?????
😆😆😆😆
The motivation & intent of these people was / is as pure as I have ever seen. They are as emotional as they are for a good reason - they truly believed in what they had chosen for themselves, and they were mere days from saying goodbye to the corrupt politics, religions, business & banking systems of this global society. I absolutely understand why they are as emotional as they are in this video. This is not a Jim Jones scenario. Far from it. It takes a great deal of courage to make a decision like this. More courage than most people anywhere have.
While I don't agree with everything they voiced, which doesn't really matter whatsoever because this was not my decision, I absolutely appreciate how strongly they stood with their personal convictions, principals & ethics, without feeling they had to excuse or justify their personal decision to anyone. They don't owe anyone an explanation regarding their choice to end their physical lives. Their bodies, their souls, their lives.
What really boggles my mind is that so many people will excuse, justify & even laud wars, executing human beings under 'the law' (no matter what the reason), imprisoning people for life because we don't agree with what they have done, torturing others under the guise of 'national security', mass government surveillance around the globe, the abuse of their neighbours' freedoms due to their skin color / religion / social status, citizens in their own countries remaining homeless / hungry / desperate for the simplest of rights everyone is entitled to (shelter, food & being treated humanely, with love & compassion), corrupt politicians continuing to rule, churches abusing their 'non-profit' status for their own monetary gain, Religious leaders abusing children, banks stealing people's homes from their friends & families, and the list goes on....all these things seem to be excusable in today's society, around the world.....but someone making the decision to end their own life because of their personal convictions, simply because you don't agree with the person's convictions?
Take a look at yourselves, pitying these people who took hold of their personal power. You all should in reality be pitying yourselves.
We are surrounded by cults of all types, and you all participate in them daily, but people are far too indoctrinated to even fathom that they contribute to & perpetuate cults of all types in their everyday lives. Political cults of every flavour which people 'vote' for, social media cults which people are addicted to, military cults which slaughter others around the world in the name of 'democracy' (yet another cult), 'educational' cults which you allow to indoctrinate your children, religious cults we are surrounded with namely Catholicism, Christianity, etc etc which you allow to further indoctrinate & abuse your children - 'acceptable' only because the majority agree with them?? How does this make them any less cults? Your religious leaders control your lives for god's sake. Your politicians, governments, police, 'legal' systems control your lives. Your monetary system controls your lives. Your 'justice' system which is anything but 'just' controls your lives. Even your credit card issuers control your lives!
Yet you believe you're making your own decisions, that you're 'free', that you all are NOT cult members???
Who are the real cult members? The minority who dare to step outside of a sick global society & explore their lives freely? And end their lives as they see fit? Or those who are firmly entrenched in this sick global society, killing themselves working for car payments, 'taxes', mortgages, religious leaders, credit card debt, parking tickets, 'student loans'....
Who are the real cult victims? Take a good look at yourselves & your lives.
It rarely takes courage to suicide. It takes courage not to.
Courageous I think NOT these people were followers thru & thru. You could even see them taking cues from the people behind the camera. I AGREE with you about society, government & things of that nature but to think these people were courageous when you learn the rules they had to follow while in Heavens Gate. These people were just searching for connections, info, somebody to take them in and tell them what to do and that everything is gonna be alright is more of what I got. I dont think anybody should idolize these people or put their actions on a pedestal in any way. What I find courageous is a person who is smart enough to understand what is truly going on and deciding they are not gonna participate and FOLLOW but do then their own thing .
I agree with your view that this world is utterly corrupt and full of hypocrisy,human beings are grasping and venal,but this is not the way to enlighten or make anything better.How do you fix anything by giving up?Do we really believe they found what they were going to?They look like fragile sincere people who couldn't live in the disgusting humanity of today,but killing yourself is giving in,whatever religion,group it may be
Well thanks for this piece of faux profundity. Why don’t you take a look at YOURSELF and YOUR life? If you really think that participating in society, the type of society (I assume that you, like these people, are living in and referring to the US or another open, democratic society), it’s worth mentioning, that has made people freer and pulled more people out of poverty than any other system in human history, necessarily involves a surrender of one’s mental faculties and integrity greater than that which these pitiful people engaged in, then you are intellectually lazy and not very bright. That is ridiculous. Yes, plenty of aspects of modern life and society do encourage participating individuals to decline to think critically and to immerse themselves in addictive, numbing, and brainwashing activities. But to make that observation in a condemnatory way while giving credit to these lost people for some intellectual and ethical strength and fortitude, as if they freed themselves, when what they did was follow some basic whack job into the abyss, is simply ridiculous. I’ll choose to dismiss this as an attempt to be edgy, because I don’t think that you’ve really thought this through.
And half of the things that you named as things that people mindlessly participate in in their lives in society are not necessarily things that result from the corrupt wielding power over blind masses. For instance, executing people under the law, “no matter the reason,” or imprisoning some people for life is not self-evidently wicked, and some wars are justified. And not all of the problems that you listed are entirely or even primarily the result of corruption. Many of these things are problems that human beings haven’t figured out adequate solutions for. The world is extremely complicated, and the problems that you seem to think must have simple solutions that would be easy to implement if only corrupt leaders would get out of the way and dulled masses would just wake up are actually not so simple. Yes, corruption is a serious problem that prevents us from creating a better world. Corruption is a universal tendency that exists in every human system. It’s also not the sole explanation for every aspect of every unsolved problem that humans face. You oversimplify.
This was their destiny. Live long and prosper
None of them could answer the question "How did you come to the conclusion that your beliefs are TRUE?"
No religion can answer that question.
Legend has it they are drinking margaritas on said comet, also 5:20 It's Garth
"Did you tell em about my pubes?"
Shwing!!
F. cking sick! I am watching suicidal notes?
You are mistaken, this is an episode of Spongebob
This is a casting couch
Poor souls feel bad for these people
I have this actual VHS tape I bought it from the guy who missed the “exit” when he was speaking in San Francisco.
Really?
@@davidswing3385 yes! He was a bit unhinged if I remember. Pretty torn up about missing the comet.
2:31 Kenneth Copeland is being called out for telling people to tithe more - prosperity gospel.
Wait if the rest of us get recycled who are the videos for?
Interesting 🤔
i only wish there was a higher level of life among the stars, and maybe there is but its not in our reach and may never be so back to this rock i guess
This is sad😢