THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CURIOUS TO SEE HER GAMEPLAY WITH HER CLASSIC P1 SUPPORTS BUT I NEVER FOUND ANY VIDEOS (EVEN SHOWCASE!). Again, thank youuuuuuuuu!
Similar to Eepy Teri DPS with P1 Supports. The new stigmata is more for P2 Teams more, as using her old gear will result higher damage when AR is not activated (Eepy Teri DPS with P1 Support uses Zeno). Unlike HoFi, HoHE also doesn't have support capabilities in P1 Comps with the new set. Hence why her old set is still better if you don't care about her Astral Ring, unlike HoFi who massively buffs HoO. Although skipping her DK is actually not a smart idea since she is a support for the 5th AR.
So outside SA (which is 2/3 of field time against abyss bosses) she gets just +5%, and only because of shorter rotations. Effectively all you get in the end is a 50% boost for a single rotation in AR.
WAIT. What about HoHE as leader (Astral Ring ON, Stellar ON) BUT her supports are Sushang and Kira?! EDIT: I don't know if it'll be a waste of time to test considering that Sushang and Kira buffs duration are shorter than P2 valks. Also, upon entering SO, those buffs won't be activated automatically. They need to rotate again and get manually activated first before HoHE enters SO. I'm still curious tho if it'll be better than Astral Ring OFF lmao
It will probably be kind of bad. They won't be able to activate HoH:E's Astral Leader skill and neither of them will be able to recharge Astral Ring energy, so HoH:E will rarely enter SO. And as you said, their buffs have shorter duration and the Rondo in Shadows buff will only last 4 seconds when summoning a shadow.
@@crys3465 My concern is whether the new gear will outperform her old one. In this raw damage test, her old gear still performs better for non-AR with P1 supports. But what if she's the leader with P1 supports, will the results be the same? P1 supports need to rotate to activate their buff before she enters SO, but the same applies when she ULT in her non-AR form too. And Ely can also activate P1 valk as shadows, but the duration is shorter. So yeah, I think it'll be beneficial to have additional test of AR ON, Stellar ON (but with P1 supports).
@@AlmightyDarkLordFollower no, WoD basically forces you to play one Valk for 25 seconds, almost all buffs don't last that long. The damage might be much lower, better to use her old set if you want to still use Sushang or Kira.
Hoyo earlier: Release ftp cores for old characters like Rozaliya to make them playable again Hoyo now: Release expensive new set and weapon to powercreep your still playable characters because you don't have crystals due to S character every patch instead of free characters every two patches
Are we looking at the same results? There's HUGE difference. Also aside from damage - As a DPS, she covers: ICE, PSY, WoD, RANGE DPS As a Support, she can be used in: WoD, LoA, future AR. In before, she's only ICE, PSY, RANGE DPS. As ICE DPS, Thelema stole some coverage from her. Same with PSY to Lantern. And RANGE to Lantern/Songque/Vita. Lastly, she's very helpful to those who started playing by 7.8~7.9. Let's say for example, you only have Vita and Songque right now. By 8.1, having Elysia new gear and getting new Kiana will make you have complete BASIC COVERAGE TEAMS (ice, fire, lightning, physical). With just 4-6 valks, you're able to have the ff.: - Ice/PSY: Elysia, Vita, Songque - Fire/SD: Kiana, Songque, Vita/Elysia - Lightning/MECH: Vita, Coralie, Helia - Physical/SD: Songque, Vita, Elysia With P1, you need at least 11 units to have teams for basic coverage.
@@waksligs4444 yeah, *only* +~50% . Just a reminder: HoFi with DK got her damage *doubled* (yes, +103%) in SO. And *only* while SO lasts which is 2/3 rotations to beat a boss (unless you have SS+ Songque AstralOP you won't have time to farm second SO). If you combine it all together you get 338.1% from 1 SO and 2 non-SO rotations vs 300% from 3 regular rotations with old gear. That's only ~12.7% increase overall, or 18.6% if you count in shorter duration of non-SO rotations. And HoFi also doubled Vita's damage as well while HoHe is just yeat enother support, she's not as irreplaceable as DK HoFi. For a price of 60 pulls (2/3 of a price of a new valk). I see zero reasons to be hyped about that. What a mediocrity honestly...
@@AlmightyDarkLordFollower the only weather she's really important for is a very niche combination of ice + psy + ranged. Remove either of those 3 effects and you can cover them well enough with Thelema and Lanthern (and often in the same team supporting each other).
Don't. Elysia Pristine mainly buffs Ranged damage. Almost all HoR attacks are considered Melee, incluiding motorbike form. The only other battlesuit that could use Elysia Pristine would be HoTr DPS.
@@satyayana1399 Yes, even with the Divine Key. Her main source of damage is still her Charged atk in bike mode and is still considered melee. Just use Willows, even Ana Schariac would be better for HoR than Elysia Pristine
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH I WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CURIOUS TO SEE HER GAMEPLAY WITH HER CLASSIC P1 SUPPORTS BUT I NEVER FOUND ANY VIDEOS (EVEN SHOWCASE!). Again, thank youuuuuuuuu!
so many Elysias on my screen, i can rest now
Similar to Eepy Teri DPS with P1 Supports. The new stigmata is more for P2 Teams more, as using her old gear will result higher damage when AR is not activated (Eepy Teri DPS with P1 Support uses Zeno).
Unlike HoFi, HoHE also doesn't have support capabilities in P1 Comps with the new set. Hence why her old set is still better if you don't care about her Astral Ring, unlike HoFi who massively buffs HoO. Although skipping her DK is actually not a smart idea since she is a support for the 5th AR.
i don't care about numbers, it's all about collectable
~change my mind 😎
So outside SA (which is 2/3 of field time against abyss bosses) she gets just +5%, and only because of shorter rotations.
Effectively all you get in the end is a 50% boost for a single rotation in AR.
If you're using her as a DPS, yes. But that's probably enough to cut down from 3 rotations to 2 rotations.
please make an updated all p2 teams in v8.1
WAIT. What about HoHE as leader (Astral Ring ON, Stellar ON) BUT her supports are Sushang and Kira?!
EDIT: I don't know if it'll be a waste of time to test considering that Sushang and Kira buffs duration are shorter than P2 valks. Also, upon entering SO, those buffs won't be activated automatically. They need to rotate again and get manually activated first before HoHE enters SO. I'm still curious tho if it'll be better than Astral Ring OFF lmao
It will probably be kind of bad. They won't be able to activate HoH:E's Astral Leader skill and neither of them will be able to recharge Astral Ring energy, so HoH:E will rarely enter SO.
And as you said, their buffs have shorter duration and the Rondo in Shadows buff will only last 4 seconds when summoning a shadow.
@@crys3465 My concern is whether the new gear will outperform her old one. In this raw damage test, her old gear still performs better for non-AR with P1 supports.
But what if she's the leader with P1 supports, will the results be the same? P1 supports need to rotate to activate their buff before she enters SO, but the same applies when she ULT in her non-AR form too. And Ely can also activate P1 valk as shadows, but the duration is shorter.
So yeah, I think it'll be beneficial to have additional test of AR ON, Stellar ON (but with P1 supports).
@@AlmightyDarkLordFollower no, WoD basically forces you to play one Valk for 25 seconds, almost all buffs don't last that long. The damage might be much lower, better to use her old set if you want to still use Sushang or Kira.
So, her best support is Thelema & Sena?
Dunno.
Some bilibili vids use Que+Thelema
Hoyo earlier: Release ftp cores for old characters like Rozaliya to make them playable again
Hoyo now: Release expensive new set and weapon to powercreep your still playable characters because you don't have crystals due to S character every patch instead of free characters every two patches
They need to bring back ftp cores for older characters that lets them to access SO.
Looks like two Valks are retired
Has Sena, and Helia been retired?
Do we have dudu test with new support😢
So the only reason to get new DK is to use HoHe in Astral ring? Other than that not much difference
The difference is the almost 50% damage increase from normal gear to DK
Are we looking at the same results? There's HUGE difference.
Also aside from damage -
As a DPS, she covers: ICE, PSY, WoD, RANGE DPS
As a Support, she can be used in: WoD, LoA, future AR.
In before, she's only ICE, PSY, RANGE DPS. As ICE DPS, Thelema stole some coverage from her. Same with PSY to Lantern. And RANGE to Lantern/Songque/Vita.
Lastly, she's very helpful to those who started playing by 7.8~7.9. Let's say for example, you only have Vita and Songque right now. By 8.1, having Elysia new gear and getting new Kiana will make you have complete BASIC COVERAGE TEAMS (ice, fire, lightning, physical). With just 4-6 valks, you're able to have the ff.:
- Ice/PSY: Elysia, Vita, Songque
- Fire/SD: Kiana, Songque, Vita/Elysia
- Lightning/MECH: Vita, Coralie, Helia
- Physical/SD: Songque, Vita, Elysia
With P1, you need at least 11 units to have teams for basic coverage.
+10 atk
@@waksligs4444 yeah, *only* +~50% . Just a reminder: HoFi with DK got her damage *doubled* (yes, +103%) in SO.
And *only* while SO lasts which is 2/3 rotations to beat a boss (unless you have SS+ Songque AstralOP you won't have time to farm second SO).
If you combine it all together you get 338.1% from 1 SO and 2 non-SO rotations vs 300% from 3 regular rotations with old gear. That's only ~12.7% increase overall, or 18.6% if you count in shorter duration of non-SO rotations.
And HoFi also doubled Vita's damage as well while HoHe is just yeat enother support, she's not as irreplaceable as DK HoFi.
For a price of 60 pulls (2/3 of a price of a new valk).
I see zero reasons to be hyped about that. What a mediocrity honestly...
@@AlmightyDarkLordFollower the only weather she's really important for is a very niche combination of ice + psy + ranged. Remove either of those 3 effects and you can cover them well enough with Thelema and Lanthern (and often in the same team supporting each other).
v3 for sure her new set will become the best also for dps like hofi
imma have HoR inherit HoHe stig
Don't. Elysia Pristine mainly buffs Ranged damage.
Almost all HoR attacks are considered Melee, incluiding motorbike form.
The only other battlesuit that could use Elysia Pristine would be HoTr DPS.
@@crys3465 even with eden cannon?
@@satyayana1399 Yes, even with the Divine Key. Her main source of damage is still her Charged atk in bike mode and is still considered melee.
Just use Willows, even Ana Schariac would be better for HoR than Elysia Pristine