If anyone ever questions the quality of Nightmare Time, the fact it brought us Holloway and Duke is all the proof needed of how good it was, legitimately some of the Hatchetfield characters I'm the most invested in (And that's the despite the sheer chemistry Jon and Lauren have when acting together, like beating Paulkins is an almost impossible feat)
@@quirrelmorts Absolutely, it's what elevated everything from "Plays I really love" to "World and characters I'm obsessed with" - they just fleshed everything out so much, and getting to have stand-alone stories with Hatchetfield-craziness was such a treat.
@@ellies.4781 i've never been super clear on what went down w the r*bert stuff but the main thing is i believe he harassed another starkid member and then once he got called out for that i think he basically turned on starkid and claimed they mistreated him or smth along those lines?
he sent inappropriate messages to a band member and posted an apology that was asked for by the band member but none of the fans really thought was satisfactory. starkid consulted an hr professional for their statement where they said that he would have to demonstrate growth and rebuild trust before participating in future projects. i don’t remember the details of what he said later but i think it’s on reddit somewhere. he had also mostly lost favor with the fandom already because of how much arguing he did on twitter
yes!!! it’s killing me that there’s a holloway musical written and we don’t know for sure if we’ll get to see it! everyone needs to rewatch nightmare time and make sure the langs know how much we love it
it's kinda wild that the main straight ships in starkid (especially hachetfield) are so good that i obsess over them like i do with lgbt ships in other fandom spaces. (as a queer person) However i do think this is partly bc so many of those ships come paired with the bittersweet tragedy of finding each other in every universe only to be pulled a part and put on trial in some way that is heavily reminiscent of lgbt pairings in media history. but also the hachetverse is just so fleshed out that even non-canonical ships have such great chemistry with each other
Nick has stated that General John McNamara is married, but hasn't said who his husband is. Re-watching their moments together - I can definitely see the chemistry between John and Xander. If they confirm that Xander was his husband the whole time (specifically in a future musical or a Nightmare Time episode - possibly 'ORBWEAVER'), then I'll have no objections about it AT ALL. Hopefully we can see who his husband is sooner rather than later.
I don’t think his husband is Xander but that doesn’t stop me shipping them. I also think there’s a complicated history with McNamara and Wilbur Cross that I hope is expanded on
@@quirrelmortsi am a “wilbur and mcnamara were a thing” truther. I absolutely believe they have a complicated thing going on. As if they had a thing and then wilbur went rogue. Idk, but the implications….
yeah i had to make it specifically hatchetfield because i’ve already done starkid ships in general and if i remade that it would just repeat of a lot of it
My personal favourite ships and ranking reactions: #7 Tom & Becky - ALRIGHT (most underrated couple) #5 Alice & Deb - SWEET (clearly care and support each other) #4 Pete & Stephanie - HALLELUJAH (Loved their chemistry throughout NPMD, still need to see their Nightmare Time episode from start to finish) #3 Lex and Ethan - THEY DESERVE BETTER! (Can't there be ONE TIMELINE where they're happy and raising Hannah together! PLEASE!!) #2 Paul & Emma - I LUV THEM, SOOO MUCCCCHHH (They're the reason the I not only got into the Hatchet Franchise, in Starkidvin general. Also like how in all of their installments together - they're either already together or are clearing going to end up together. For better or the worst circumstances) Note need to catch-up on Nightmare Time, before I give opinion on Holloway and Duke. Although, I can already tell it's a great pairing just due to the fact that they're played by one of the Starkids' power couple Kim & Curt.
my top 3 are lautski, paulkins and holloduke - lautski and paulkins are basically tied for my favourite ship at this point, they're basically interchangable. atm i'm obsessed with lautski tho.
Gaaaaah. Nerdy Joey and cutie pie Pete and badass Steph. Long hair Joey playing absolute sweetheart Ethan. Paulkins. *sobs* Duke and Ms Hollowaaaaaaay... That top 4 is exquisite.
The entire time of NPMD, I was wondering why the heck didn't Richie and Ruth try helping one another's urges in order to get it out of their systems. Yes, I know they likely didn't see each other that way and just weren't attracted that way to one another--yes, I get that. That said, I 1,000% l like how Richie was Ruth's wing man--that spoke volumes of his friendship with her. Though, I was less impressed with the action when he then subsequently used the phrase "hit it and quit it, bro" to Pete regarding Ruth. Still, his thought at trying to help Ruth satisfy her... urges, was something of a plus.
I definitely see some of my high school friends in them. Desperate for connection but not attracted to each other and don’t have any other options. They’re awkward teens so they’re not gonna say the most respectful stuff. They ultimately do care about each other just struggle to show that
Let’s be honest, Joey Ethan improved Lex and Ethan’s relationship, their overall vibes together (also good writing) Because I was not interested in Ethan AT ALL in Black Friday, only Lex But Joey really made me care for him
@@quirrelmorts about two months ago I rewatched both of these episodes for the first time since they came out and it was absolutely heartbraking, even more than on my first watch, so I absolutely get this.
The only ones I disagree with are Ruth/Richie (I think they'd be besties personally) and Alice/Deb since imo they seem SO toxic in nightmare time, but I love them in TGWDLM 😭
There's a part of me that wanted to see grace and max Like they definitely shouldn't be on a list of like good relationships cause they're not. There are relationships so toxic. They killed like 5 people and one guy died twice. And probably a lot more gonna die. Considering grace now has the and is grace But I don't know. I just kind to like them together. It also hated at the same time.
not fully related to the video but i wonder how joey and lauren feel knowing that they never get cast as each other's love interest, especially with lauren often being cast with jon 💀
i think they were okay with it when they were keeping their relationship secret. now they get to be the cratchits every year and have a lot of fun with that!
i respect this ranking so hard also so happy i've found another ruth/richie (and like polycule ruth/richie/pete/steph) enjoyer omf (also miss holloway and duke at number 1 is so real of you)
And out of those 10% gay ships, we either only know they exist because it was later confirmed (macnamara & lee) or they only get like what. 2 minutes of screen time
it’s unfortunate yet understandable that two cishet men aren’t writing great gay stories. i know they want to have representation and have improved in some aspects but they’re still definitely lacking
The duality of gay headcanon ships. On one hand you have paul and bill where the ship kinda takes away from their entire established canon and plays into stereotype for the sake of being gay and on the other you have General John MacNamara Of The United States Military and xander lee. A ship thats all but canon just based on the dialogue and acting choices of the cast. I love it and the garbarr ship.
If anyone ever questions the quality of Nightmare Time, the fact it brought us Holloway and Duke is all the proof needed of how good it was, legitimately some of the Hatchetfield characters I'm the most invested in
(And that's the despite the sheer chemistry Jon and Lauren have when acting together, like beating Paulkins is an almost impossible feat)
yeah nightmare time did so much to expand the worldbuilding and get me attached to characters i will love it forever
@@quirrelmorts Absolutely, it's what elevated everything from "Plays I really love" to "World and characters I'm obsessed with" - they just fleshed everything out so much, and getting to have stand-alone stories with Hatchetfield-craziness was such a treat.
@@quirrelmortsreal. I’m so excited for the possibility of NMT3!!
Love how for Ethan and Lex you didn't use a single scene from Black Friday, respect
cause of R*b
@@itzcassssie872wait, did he do something? I didn’t know anything about that
@@ellies.4781 i've never been super clear on what went down w the r*bert stuff but the main thing is i believe he harassed another starkid member and then once he got called out for that i think he basically turned on starkid and claimed they mistreated him or smth along those lines?
@@leilanyxwoah what are the details? Like what was he doing?
he sent inappropriate messages to a band member and posted an apology that was asked for by the band member but none of the fans really thought was satisfactory. starkid consulted an hr professional for their statement where they said that he would have to demonstrate growth and rebuild trust before participating in future projects. i don’t remember the details of what he said later but i think it’s on reddit somewhere. he had also mostly lost favor with the fandom already because of how much arguing he did on twitter
I was hoping Holloway and Duke would be number one. Their chemistry is AMAZING. I need a whole damn musical with these two front and centre.
yes!!! it’s killing me that there’s a holloway musical written and we don’t know for sure if we’ll get to see it! everyone needs to rewatch nightmare time and make sure the langs know how much we love it
@@quirrelmorts Oh my god I forgot about that!!! Brb, convincing all my friends to watch nightmare time
@@quirrelmortsThere's a WHAT! I need this in my life!
yep! it was revealed in the hatchetfield halloween party livestream
@@quirrelmorts Man, I need to keep better track of these things! That's so cool!
it's kinda wild that the main straight ships in starkid (especially hachetfield) are so good that i obsess over them like i do with lgbt ships in other fandom spaces. (as a queer person)
However i do think this is partly bc so many of those ships come paired with the bittersweet tragedy of finding each other in every universe only to be pulled a part and put on trial in some way that is heavily reminiscent of lgbt pairings in media history.
but also the hachetverse is just so fleshed out that even non-canonical ships have such great chemistry with each other
Pete and Steph are my personal favorite (it's that teenage love, falling hard and fast, plus they bring out the best in each other
I never thought about Gary and Barry, but like... After the "Just die" part it gives enemies to lovers and I adore it.
Nick has stated that General John McNamara is married, but hasn't said who his husband is. Re-watching their moments together - I can definitely see the chemistry between John and Xander. If they confirm that Xander was his husband the whole time (specifically in a future musical or a Nightmare Time episode - possibly 'ORBWEAVER'), then I'll have no objections about it AT ALL. Hopefully we can see who his husband is sooner rather than later.
I don’t think his husband is Xander but that doesn’t stop me shipping them. I also think there’s a complicated history with McNamara and Wilbur Cross that I hope is expanded on
@@quirrelmortsFair enough, but anything's possible. Love the video - really captured the best moments from each of the ships.
@@quirrelmortsi am a “wilbur and mcnamara were a thing” truther. I absolutely believe they have a complicated thing going on. As if they had a thing and then wilbur went rogue. Idk, but the implications….
CURT'S "but they're both on the sales rack" ALWAYS MAKES ME HAVE A CHILL DOWN MY SPINE DUDE ITS SO ADDICTING
I was about to comment about Quirrelmort before remembering I had the ability to reread things and realized this said HATCHETFIELD ships lmao😭
yeah i had to make it specifically hatchetfield because i’ve already done starkid ships in general and if i remade that it would just repeat of a lot of it
@@quirrelmortsyeah totally, it was just going to be about how your username is literally… quirrelmorts haha😭
I NEED ANGELA AND JOEY TO PLAY LOVE INTERESTS ON STAGE OMFG
My personal favourite ships and ranking reactions:
#7 Tom & Becky - ALRIGHT (most underrated couple)
#5 Alice & Deb - SWEET (clearly care and support each other)
#4 Pete & Stephanie - HALLELUJAH (Loved their chemistry throughout NPMD, still need to see their Nightmare Time episode from start to finish)
#3 Lex and Ethan - THEY DESERVE BETTER! (Can't there be ONE TIMELINE where they're happy and raising Hannah together! PLEASE!!)
#2 Paul & Emma - I LUV THEM, SOOO MUCCCCHHH (They're the reason the I not only got into the Hatchet Franchise, in Starkidvin general. Also like how in all of their installments together - they're either already together or are clearing going to end up together. For better or the worst circumstances)
Note need to catch-up on Nightmare Time, before I give opinion on Holloway and Duke. Although, I can already tell it's a great pairing just due to the fact that they're played by one of the Starkids' power couple Kim & Curt.
The only story that didn't happen in is Hey Melissa. But I don't know if it's a cannon universe because it was scrapped for any Nightmare time
my top 3 are lautski, paulkins and holloduke - lautski and paulkins are basically tied for my favourite ship at this point, they're basically interchangable. atm i'm obsessed with lautski tho.
omigoodness WHY did barry/gary never occur to me before, you have changed my life for the better thank you for your service!
their ship name is attorney in a hurry 😁
Gaaaaah. Nerdy Joey and cutie pie Pete and badass Steph. Long hair Joey playing absolute sweetheart Ethan. Paulkins. *sobs* Duke and Ms Hollowaaaaaaay... That top 4 is exquisite.
The entire time of NPMD, I was wondering why the heck didn't Richie and Ruth try helping one another's urges in order to get it out of their systems. Yes, I know they likely didn't see each other that way and just weren't attracted that way to one another--yes, I get that.
That said, I 1,000% l like how Richie was Ruth's wing man--that spoke volumes of his friendship with her. Though, I was less impressed with the action when he then subsequently used the phrase "hit it and quit it, bro" to Pete regarding Ruth. Still, his thought at trying to help Ruth satisfy her... urges, was something of a plus.
I definitely see some of my high school friends in them. Desperate for connection but not attracted to each other and don’t have any other options. They’re awkward teens so they’re not gonna say the most respectful stuff. They ultimately do care about each other just struggle to show that
Let’s be honest, Joey Ethan improved Lex and Ethan’s relationship, their overall vibes together (also good writing)
Because I was not interested in Ethan AT ALL in Black Friday, only Lex
But Joey really made me care for him
How dare you making me cry with that last clip.
i kept putting off rewatching killer track and yellow jacket while making this because i didn’t want my heart broken again
@@quirrelmorts about two months ago I rewatched both of these episodes for the first time since they came out and it was absolutely heartbraking, even more than on my first watch, so I absolutely get this.
HOLLOWEANE OMG IM SOBBING WTH
Paulkins at 2 is a crime 😂
they’re so important i just have a soft spot for the tragedy of holloduke
Also Alice/Deb at 5 purely because *gay* is so funny and I 100% agree with it
Real that’s my #1
There is no tom and his one and only soulmate *therapy* 🙄
dude this video is reminding me on how much I need NMT season 3 I love this characters and ships so much oml
Loved all the Nightmare Time rep!
That abrupt ending caught me off guard lol
YES duke and holloway appreciation!!
Does anyone ship Wilbur Cross and John McNamara? The angst potential there is 💯
Also Holloduke at #1 is the most valid opinion ever
wilbur and mcnamara is definitely a popular angsty ship!
The only ones I disagree with are Ruth/Richie (I think they'd be besties personally) and Alice/Deb since imo they seem SO toxic in nightmare time, but I love them in TGWDLM 😭
There's a part of me that wanted to see grace and max Like they definitely shouldn't be on a list of like good relationships cause they're not. There are relationships so toxic. They killed like 5 people and one guy died twice. And probably a lot more gonna die. Considering grace now has the and is grace
But I don't know. I just kind to like them together. It also hated at the same time.
ikr like max was definetly kicking his feet and giggling when grace sang dirty dudes must die
ruth and richie aw 🥺
not fully related to the video but i wonder how joey and lauren feel knowing that they never get cast as each other's love interest, especially with lauren often being cast with jon 💀
i think they were okay with it when they were keeping their relationship secret. now they get to be the cratchits every year and have a lot of fun with that!
@@quirrelmorts wait they were keeping their relationship a secret? also WHO ARE THE CRATCHITS
yeah they kept their relationship private for 8 years until they got engaged! the cratchits are their characters in vhs christmas carol
i respect this ranking so hard also so happy i've found another ruth/richie (and like polycule ruth/richie/pete/steph) enjoyer omf (also miss holloway and duke at number 1 is so real of you)
my ships, in no particular order
I was so tempted to include Ted and Jenny!
god the lesbian rep sure does suck in hatchetfield huh
like i. love starkid dont get me wrong but out of 100% of all canon ships, 90% are straight, 5% are gay and 5% are lesbian
And out of those 10% gay ships, we either only know they exist because it was later confirmed (macnamara & lee) or they only get like what. 2 minutes of screen time
it’s unfortunate yet understandable that two cishet men aren’t writing great gay stories. i know they want to have representation and have improved in some aspects but they’re still definitely lacking
So real 😔
They have a lot of LGBTQ+ members on the team. Didn't Mariah come out as pan? They can help.
PERFECT LIST
All these ships are inferior to Peanuts and the Duck. (Just kidding obviously but wouldn't be insane if what I just wrote became legit?)
my top three are lautski, paulkins, and lexthan.
The duality of gay headcanon ships. On one hand you have paul and bill where the ship kinda takes away from their entire established canon and plays into stereotype for the sake of being gay and on the other you have General John MacNamara Of The United States Military and xander lee. A ship thats all but canon just based on the dialogue and acting choices of the cast. I love it and the garbarr ship.
0:35 not to be mean but HUH???? why is this ship top 12?? It’s a one-off joke..?
i’m obsessed with jeff and i’ve created a meaningful love between those characters in my mind
@@quirrelmortsy’know what? So real for that tbh