I still remember that storm. I was in 3rd grade at Mt. Carmel (Catholic) School in Willimansett, Mass. at the time. The nuns sent us kids home about an hour after classes started because the snow was getting deep. My friend Donald and I frolicked in the snow drifts all the way home. His sister took a picture of us playing in the snow. I still have it.
I'm with you: I Love Dorothy Kilgallen.. even though I've never met her. I love the Jefferson memorial, even though I can't have a 'relationship' with a statue. I love coarse ground pepper on almost every dish.. what I mean by that is.. 'shut up' to the negative twits, and go hang out on a site that values your low brow, depressing nonsense.
That’s so cool! I’ve seen other people make comments that a relative of theirs was a guest on the show. I keep thinking I’ll see someone I know in one of these episodes.
One of Arlene's most memorable / most delightful gaffes -- mentioned in Gil Fates' book on WML "Do you have any other means of exposure?" Gabel: "Expression ?" LOL -- though in the case of Berle he did do a lot of exposure on TV. Arlene's dress tonight is one of her most famous outfits. Color pictures of it available when you google Arlene Francis images.
I also love arelene's dresses and I believe I have a few of them in my wardrobe, but I'm not real big on the sleeveless dresses as I don't like to shave my arms and pits. But they are lovely and some of my favorites.
Thanks for the video. Keenan Wynn did a nice job in the 2nd seat. Sometimes, the 2nd seat is filled by some comedian who tries to take over the whole show. Nice to see the 2nd seat filled by someone other than that.
Very timely watching the weather forecaster on 31 January 2022 with the huge east coast snow storm today and the fact that the east coast had a big snow storm during this taping.
Not many people know but when Milton berle was asked are you big on jukeboxes his actions with the guitar was his reference to Elvis Presley I know this because he told me himself
JSOMERSET994 JSOMERSET994 It wasn't common knowledge back then-- I agree with John Waller that, in context, it's clear that Wynn was only thinking of an overweight comedian like Gleason, not of Milton Berle's "endowment". But it's impossible to watch this moment today without thinking otherwise!
"Would you say that television is your best-known medium?" Me, I think "yes" would have been the clear and proper answer. Milton Berle had the popular nickname "Mr. Television" in fact, since he was the first major American TV star. (Of course, his other nickname was "Uncle Miltie".)
@ToddSF (a little late in replying here) I think you need to place this in the context of the time and the phrase "best known for..." While he was a major TV star from 1949 to the mid 1950s, the proportion of people who owned a TV in the USA was still relatively small (9% in 1950 to around 80% in 1958). At the time this episode of WML aired, his show was on its last legs. To half of the audience at the time, they would know him more for his long radio career, although they would be aware that he was a major star in TV. TLDR; I think John is being fair in saying that his fame is divided between different mediums.
Alexandre Hamada Possi I loved her look after she said "...and you're so watery" and then the audience started to laugh. Then it looks like a lightbulb came on.
wow it's hard to think Arlene wasn't psychic in this one, she just zeroed right in from nowhere... based on his name? that's a million to one shot, and I don't think they were cheating.
Arlene was a real looker. Dorothy was an intelligent and eloquent dame. Bennett was a little stuffy but, was otherwise hilarious! It was always funny to watch who the rotating guest was in later years. This panel was on this episode was great and Milton Berle was in top form.
Rats. The only one you didn't mention was John, whom I loved as moderator, especially when someone's remark cracked him up. He was very erudite and witty. No one like him on tv today.
Did anyone else notice that both male panelists failed to stand to shake the weather forcaster's hand when he left the show. They both stood for every other contestant and SG I noticed.
Yup. Rumor has it in a conversation with a guy that he opened his robe and dropped his salami on the coffee table with thud when the subject came up. Seeing him stand up and start to unbutton his jacket when asked if he was physically large had me rolling!
Mrs. Berry of St. Augustine, Florida is the first contestant to tell John what one of the panelist said. I realize this is no big deal. But, after watching as many WML episodes as I have, it’s fun to catch the little things that’s never happened before.
In general, the etiquette of the time required that men stand when greeting a woman, but another man only as a gesture of special respect, as to someone prominent or venerable.
8:40. A very pertinent question of their time referring to man-made climate change. WOW! My thoughts on this is do we now have enough information to conclude that it DID change the planet's weather patterns? 🤔🤔🤔. The cold war period was certainly some frightening times.
To the best of my knowledge, any effect would be a negligible temporary cooling, rather than warming. Large volcanic explosions (Pinatubo, Krakatoa) that put lots of particulates into the atmosphere cause spectacular sunsets around the world and reflect some solar energy until they settle. I've never read of any sunset effects after atomic tests, nor any correlation between blizzards and volcanoes, let alone blizzards and atomic tests.
There were atomic and thermonuclear explosions in the atmosphere from 1945-1963. But the graph of warming temperatures is a jagged line that runs from the end of the nineteenth century to the present day. The main driver of climate change is heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide.
Such an entertaining show. Not about money and ridiculous people in ridiculously stupid game shows. They should bring it back but where would you get the civility.
Thanks so much for all these videos, a lot of fun to watch. Does anyone know why Arlene and Dorothy swapped seats so often? Bennett seems to always sit in the same seat, so why do they move,especially when Martin is there, it seems that they (Arlene & Martin) would sit together.
I've wondered about this myself. My best guess is that it has something to do with the introductions. Whoever sat in the 1st seat was usually introduced generically by the announcer the same way every time, a good reason to mix it up. On the other hand, Bennett always sitting at the end meant he would always be the one who got to introduce John Daly, as he did so well.
Perhaps they split up Arlene and Martin because they were wont to have impromptu conferences during the questioning (John Daly: "no conference has been called for"). I remember how the teachers in grammar school would split up two students who were talking to each other too often during class.
Alternating who gets introduced means neither gets top billing over the other. Bennet Cerf is always last but in return gets to introduce John Daly. This way everyone is equal. It's simlar idea to opening credits of a move or tv show with two big stars. They are listed alphabetically left to right in reading, but the last one is higher than the other so their name is first reading top to down. It makes everyone even.
What was it about February 1958? On the 2nd Patrice Munsell showed up with a preposterous hat and tonight a woman with a hat that might have looked all right from the front but, Good Lord, it was ridiculous from the side. Maybe she made it for a small pony that grew too quickly so she wore it? I can't wait to see the rest of the month.
Do you know what explosion he is referencing? All I could find was about a nuclear bomb without its payload mistakenly dropped and exploding in South Carolina. The conventional explosion injured a family.
+Classique Liberal I believe they were referring to above ground testing of nuclear weapons. John Daly even referred to going out to Nevada a few years earlier to cover such a test that ended up being called off. He ended up bringing back someone from Las Vegas to be one of the WML challengers.
I wouldn't call that a joke. It was a legitimate query about the impact of the A-Bomb on weather! Some things never change - look at the polarization (pun intended?) about the misinformation/facts of Global Warming? We tend to stretch our acceptances of the unknown to make sense of the known. Who knows - maybe North Korea's testing of nukes is contributing to the melting of the polar caps? If only WML was on today, we would have a legitimate public forum to ask that question!
@@sydnarevocram5649 Unlikely. Particulates in the atmosphere generally have a cooling effect, as after big volcanic explosions like Krakatoa. I've even heard suggestions that bomb explosions should be used deliberately to combat global warming!
Neil Midkiff, interesting input, but I would never fathom a suggestion of nuclear winter to combat global warming. Yes, it would cool the Earth, but in its wake, eradicate countless flora and fauna. I would like to know from whom you heard this suggestion please? Was it off the cuff, or based off fact and data, skewed or real?
They're talking about someone who sings on Broadway, or in cabarets/nightclubs rather than a pop singer. Sometimes it's used to differentiate from theater vs. TV or movies. ETA: there are several episodes where they treat rock & roll music/musicians as little more than a passing fad.
When describing vocal style, "legitimate" includes a wide range of kinds of shows and songs, including opera, operetta, classical, traditional musical comedy, and more. It's mostly a question of vocal technique: is the singer projecting the voice using lung power, as every singer had to do before amplification? I'm not saying that mikes can never be associated with legit singing, as for broadcast, recording, or to overcome acoustic problems in a venue. But the kind of singing that relies on a microphone just inches from the lips in order to pick up the voice falls outside the legit category in my book.
The term "legitimate theater" has somewhat overlapping meaning but different roots; it derives from British stage censorship, when one had to get royal permission to open a theater, and (from the Theatres Act 1843 until 1968) any scripted show had to be submitted to the Lord Chamberlain's office a week before opening to get a license to perform it. This included plays, operas, and "book" musicals, but not vaudeville, music hall, and revue. So "legitimate" is here a rough synonym for "licensed."
A book, The Reporter who Knew Too Much, was written about her dogged pursuit of the identities of the assassins of John F. Kennedy. Apparently she got too close to unmasking them, and was warned not to continue in her pursuit, but she wouldn't back off. The villains made her death look like a substance overdose, stole her notes and documents, and their identities remain unknown. I am sorry I don't remember the name of the author of the book- authors ought to get credit for their work. An actor on one of the franchises of Law and Order has done some research about this topic. Rats. I can't think of his name either.
I can't help wondering what Arlene and Martin had in common. Arlene was such a witty, charming, warm and not to forget beautiful woman. And then.... Martin Gabel?? I can't find anything attractive about him, and by attractive I mean as much inner beauty.
He wasn't too attractive, no, but much better looking when he was younger and a fine actor who was in Orson Welles Mercury Theatre co. Check out this photo of Arlene and him! images.nypl.org/index.php?id=psnypl_the_4912&t=w
Maybe someone understated was a good fit. He's not my idea of handsome but I like him. He has a little charm. And he sometimes strikes me as a bit romantic.
Fred Allen, who was the rudest man on this show isn't on it anymore, but that still doesn't stop other people from being rude :( Even if some WAS large, they're not gonna ADMIT it!
These shows are so snooty, lol. The way they talked, the way they act,I can imagine every one of these people, panelists, host, walked around with their nose permanently stuck up into the air.
@@accomplice55 I mean, come on, "Ro-de-o"? Who says it like that? I live in rodeo country and never once have heard it pronounced like that. That is the most pretentious way of saying rodeo I have ever heard.
Even watching a second or third time, you've no idea how much pleasure these episodes bring
So very true 😊
Absolutely true. Laughing and crying alternating..
How right you are!
There are more than 750 episodes of WML. I watch at least three or four a day.
I love the friendly atmosphere,the manner's and the excellent John Daly especially!!
I still remember that storm. I was in 3rd grade at Mt. Carmel (Catholic) School in Willimansett, Mass. at the time. The nuns sent us kids home about an hour after classes started because the snow was getting deep. My friend Donald and I frolicked in the snow drifts all the way home. His sister took a picture of us playing in the snow. I still have it.
Impressive memory...
Thank you for sharing that!
Yup. I've still got photos of me at age six, my parents and my uncle all bundled up making snowballs, cars buried in the drifts.
Also…thanks so much for putting these episodes on RUclips. I watch them with a smile on my face from ear to ear.
Exactly how I watch them! Or rather, that's how they affect me.
Have not seen this "What my line" and I thought I've seen them all. Dorothy was just lovely. Yes I love her. God bless her soul.
I'm with you: I Love Dorothy Kilgallen.. even though I've never met her. I love the Jefferson memorial, even though I can't have a 'relationship' with a statue. I love coarse ground pepper on almost every dish.. what I mean by that is.. 'shut up' to the negative twits, and go hang out on a site that values your low brow, depressing nonsense.
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Thanks for the post! My mother, MILDRED BEERY is the person who made "Hats for Horses". I was raised In St. Augustine Florida.
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That’s so cool! I’ve seen other people make comments that a relative of theirs was a guest on the show. I keep thinking I’ll see someone I know in one of these episodes.
Nice ! 😊
How wonderful to see your mother. ❤
How cool! ❤️😃😊
Who said Berle only stole others' material? That entrance was ingenious and hysterical and certainly original.
I was cracking up! And hoping the panel was able to watch a rerun of it. LOL
The Milton Berle segment was priceless.😆
Keenan Wynn was a good guest panelist!
Great episode, that is some dress that Arlene has on and I do love Martin's voice, so calming! Milton was hilarious and Arlene was on good form!
@z How can you know if he was a nice person without knowing him? He has been dead for many years.
I don't like Arlene's over coat.
When people cared enough affect a mid-atlantic accent.
@@preppysocks209 he was my grandpa
yes.. i think martin's cool deep voice made arlene swoon, all the time.. the whole panel (mr. daly, also) were just wonderful together
This episode was great and I find Milton Berle very funny.
Everybody had the giggles in this episode, then Milton Berle came in and stole the show like he always does.
Uncle Milty was so funny! I love seeing their “real” personalities coming out on this show.
St. Augustine Fl....I've been going there for 25 years.. At Christmas Time it's called the City of Lights..
One of Arlene's most memorable / most delightful gaffes -- mentioned in Gil Fates' book on WML "Do you have any other means of exposure?" Gabel: "Expression ?" LOL -- though in the case of Berle he did do a lot of exposure on TV.
Arlene's dress tonight is one of her most famous outfits. Color pictures of it available when you google Arlene Francis images.
Thanks for pointing out another great moment, soulierinvestments. It's at 19:27, for those who want to jump to it quickly.
I also love arelene's dresses and I believe I have a few of them in my wardrobe, but I'm not real big on the sleeveless dresses as I don't like to shave my arms and pits. But they are lovely and some of my favorites.
Did Uncle Milty have the best mystery guest entrance in the show's history?
@7:20 I LOVE how everyone is looking at Arlene in complete admiration of her skills.
Keenan "Winter Warlock" Wynn. Great actor
Thanks for the video. Keenan Wynn did a nice job in the 2nd seat. Sometimes, the 2nd seat is filled by some comedian who tries to take over the whole show. Nice to see the 2nd seat filled by someone other than that.
Like Groucho Marx did once. Tried to make himself the center of attention the whole show.
@@dennisbedard9850 Exactly! I like Groucho, but he did not fit the personality of the WML panel for the precise reason you stated.
Often filled by an unfunny jerk like Borge for example
Very timely watching the weather forecaster on 31 January 2022 with the huge east coast snow storm today and the fact that the east coast had a big snow storm during this taping.
Not many people know but when Milton berle was asked are you big on jukeboxes his actions with the guitar was his reference to Elvis Presley I know this because he told me himself
Perhaps the most famous of the dresses Arlene ever wore.
It’s a real showstopper!!
"Are you large physically?" - what a question to ask Milton Berle! I almost rolled out of bed laughing! :D
I truly cannot believe I never noticed this moment before. Great, great catch, Marcus. It's at 20:00.
Directly after Arlene asked Milton about his "exposure"! ;)
Marcus Larinen He was probably thinking of Jackie Gleason...
JSOMERSET994 JSOMERSET994 It wasn't common knowledge back then-- I agree with John Waller that, in context, it's clear that Wynn was only thinking of an overweight comedian like Gleason, not of Milton Berle's "endowment". But it's impossible to watch this moment today without thinking otherwise!
I thought the same thing, considering how well-endowed he was rumored to be!
I still think WML was the best TV game show of all time.
I agree. Wml beats today's game shows.
Agree!
The most well equipped of al guests
"Would you say that television is your best-known medium?" Me, I think "yes" would have been the clear and proper answer. Milton Berle had the popular nickname "Mr. Television" in fact, since he was the first major American TV star. (Of course, his other nickname was "Uncle Miltie".)
@ToddSF (a little late in replying here) I think you need to place this in the context of the time and the phrase "best known for..."
While he was a major TV star from 1949 to the mid 1950s, the proportion of people who owned a TV in the USA was still relatively small (9% in 1950 to around 80% in 1958). At the time this episode of WML aired, his show was on its last legs.
To half of the audience at the time, they would know him more for his long radio career, although they would be aware that he was a major star in TV.
TLDR; I think John is being fair in saying that his fame is divided between different mediums.
Keenan Wynn in "Number Please" from the Ziegfeld Follies is the best skit ever.
Love that entrance by Milton Berle! Had to dig his way in to the studio!😅😅😅
I think Dorothy is probably at her most attractive in this episode, that dress suits her to a T.
I don't want to sound like a homer or nothing, but I concur.
haha i cant believe the way arlene guessed the weatherman... through an innocent comment on his last name lol
Alexandre Hamada Possi I loved her look after she said "...and you're so watery" and then the audience started to laugh. Then it looks like a lightbulb came on.
She was meandering and noticed the audience reaction to her comments.
@@joncheskin that's more accurate, yes.
Milton was very funny
Dorothy Kilgallen had the prettiest cheekbones of any TV or cinematic celebrity in her day.
wow it's hard to think Arlene wasn't psychic in this one, she just zeroed right in from nowhere... based on his name? that's a million to one shot, and I don't think they were cheating.
Arlene was a real looker. Dorothy was an intelligent and eloquent dame. Bennett was a little stuffy but, was otherwise hilarious! It was always funny to watch who the rotating guest was in later years. This panel was on this episode was great and Milton Berle was in top form.
Arlene was also intelligent, fun and tended to help everyone else to perform their best
Agreed man. I love the OG line up
I think your comments were right on the money. It's gratifying when the commenter's remarks agree with my own opinions.
Rats. The only one you didn't mention was John, whom I loved as moderator, especially when someone's remark cracked him up. He was very erudite and witty. No one like him on tv today.
Did anyone else notice that both male panelists failed to stand to shake the weather forcaster's hand when he left the show. They both stood for every other contestant and SG I noticed.
without Bennett's presence, that can happen. Happened a few times with the original panelists in 1950
by the look in Mr. Daly’s face after that I am sure they were given a friendly reminder in courtesy after the first contestant.
One of the greats.
*_U.S. Weather Forecaster_*
*_Makes Horses Hats_*
Ah, the grace, the wit, the mid-Atlantic accents and, no doubt, the nicotine that fueled this show.
And the odd scotch and soda on occasion, no doubt.
Milton Berle was funny as all hell
He was hilarious without even having to speak, which I love. That's a mark of a good comedian in my book. I love visual humour!
Arlene - charm wit smarts beauty talent
Man - that smokers cough of John’s is CHRONIC
The second contestant looks like Olivia Colman!
Milton Berle claimed to have had an affair with Miss Killgallen. One wonders as to the nature of the timeline relative to this particular episode.
Oh, the "large" Milton Berle jokes...priceless.
I don't think most people got it.
@@bryanspindle4455 I think John Daly got it, he laughed so hard that he choked 😂
“Are you a very large man?” and Milton stands up as if he’s going to drop trousers! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There was a running joke about the size of his penis. Most said it was massive.
Uncle miltie with the massive member. HAHAHA HAHAHA
John W ~ Made it even more funny when they kept asking, are you a man. Then, are you a large man? SO FUNNY!!!
Yup. Rumor has it in a conversation with a guy that he opened his robe and dropped his salami on the coffee table with thud when the subject came up. Seeing him stand up and start to unbutton his jacket when asked if he was physically large had me rolling!
From the US National Weather Service:
Mrs. Berry of St. Augustine, Florida is the first contestant to tell John what one of the panelist said. I realize this is no big deal. But, after watching as many WML episodes as I have, it’s fun to catch the little things that’s never happened before.
Thanks for the post! My mother, MILDRED BEERY is the person who made "Hats for Horses". I was raised In St. Augustine Florida.
The men didnt stand to shake Mr Mirabellos hand!
In general, the etiquette of the time required that men stand when greeting a woman, but another man only as a gesture of special respect, as to someone prominent or venerable.
I Agree 1000% WML was the best...
Okay old stuff that the Best don't listen to everyone
8:40. A very pertinent question of their time referring to man-made climate change. WOW! My thoughts on this is do we now have enough information to conclude that it DID change the planet's weather patterns? 🤔🤔🤔. The cold war period was certainly some frightening times.
To the best of my knowledge, any effect would be a negligible temporary cooling, rather than warming. Large volcanic explosions (Pinatubo, Krakatoa) that put lots of particulates into the atmosphere cause spectacular sunsets around the world and reflect some solar energy until they settle. I've never read of any sunset effects after atomic tests, nor any correlation between blizzards and volcanoes, let alone blizzards and atomic tests.
There were atomic and thermonuclear explosions in the atmosphere from 1945-1963. But the graph of warming temperatures is a jagged line that runs from the end of the nineteenth century to the present day. The main driver of climate change is heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide.
Arlene Francis was always a pip.
may.
my Dad's day of Birth..
Such an entertaining show. Not about money and ridiculous people in ridiculously stupid game shows. They should bring it back but where would you get the civility.
WML is now the only way I can wind down at night.
Thanks so much for all these videos, a lot of fun to watch. Does anyone know why Arlene and Dorothy swapped seats so often? Bennett seems to always sit in the same seat, so why do they move,especially when Martin is there, it seems that they (Arlene & Martin) would sit together.
I've wondered about this myself. My best guess is that it has something to do with the introductions. Whoever sat in the 1st seat was usually introduced generically by the announcer the same way every time, a good reason to mix it up. On the other hand, Bennett always sitting at the end meant he would always be the one who got to introduce John Daly, as he did so well.
Perhaps they split up Arlene and Martin because they were wont to have impromptu conferences during the questioning (John Daly: "no conference has been called for"). I remember how the teachers in grammar school would split up two students who were talking to each other too often during class.
Alternating who gets introduced means neither gets top billing over the other. Bennet Cerf is always last but in return gets to introduce John Daly. This way everyone is equal. It's simlar idea to opening credits of a move or tv show with two big stars. They are listed alphabetically left to right in reading, but the last one is higher than the other so their name is first reading top to down. It makes everyone even.
Sharp looking Arlene 😘👌
I may be in the minority, but I love Uncle Miltie.
Milton's dramatic debut: www.imdb.com/title/tt0622369/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_57
"Are you a man or a woman?" "Yes."
Oh yes, she's the lady wearing one of her own milinary creations for equines.
I was shocked when I wikipedia'd her cause of death. Such a charming and brilliant woman.
702artie
Are you speaking of Arlene or Dorothy?
Dorothy's was suspicious. Both were sad.
Arlene lived a long life, though her last fifteen years she had Alzheimer’s.
Dorothy either was murdered or overdosed, at the age of 52.
Mrs. Berry's hat!
Arlene wearing her mask askew, as usual, for the celebrity guest segment. Compare how she situates her mask, compared to Gabel or Wynn
Weatherforecasting Just before the advent of satellites.... good luck with that one.
Mrs. Berry not only makes horse's hat's but is wearing one this very minute...
Jack Robinson -- I was just about to post the same remark about Mrs. Berry's hat.
That would have been rude, lol. I used to live in the Richmond District 94108, Had a friend named Todd too, Cheers.
Maybe it was an advertising ploy.
A very enjoyable episode due to the absence of stuffy Bennett Cerf.
Bennet Cerf was very funny, and knowledgeable.
Martin and Keenan didn't stand for the weather forecaster. They must not like snow any more than I do.
What was it about February 1958? On the 2nd Patrice Munsell showed up with a preposterous hat and tonight a woman with a hat that might have looked all right from the front but, Good Lord, it was ridiculous from the side. Maybe she made it for a small pony that grew too quickly so she wore it? I can't wait to see the rest of the month.
“Are you very large physically?”
Apparently so.
I wonder if her horse's hats were like her own.
Pad Thai, Pad Thai, your Pad Thai today!
The days when people made jokes about atomic explosions...
Do you know what explosion he is referencing? All I could find was about a nuclear bomb without its payload mistakenly dropped and exploding in South Carolina. The conventional explosion injured a family.
+Classique Liberal
I believe they were referring to above ground testing of nuclear weapons. John Daly even referred to going out to Nevada a few years earlier to cover such a test that ended up being called off. He ended up bringing back someone from Las Vegas to be one of the WML challengers.
I wouldn't call that a joke. It was a legitimate query about the impact of the A-Bomb on weather! Some things never change - look at the polarization (pun intended?) about the misinformation/facts of Global Warming? We tend to stretch our acceptances of the unknown to make sense of the known. Who knows - maybe North Korea's testing of nukes is contributing to the melting of the polar caps? If only WML was on today, we would have a legitimate public forum to ask that question!
@@sydnarevocram5649 Unlikely. Particulates in the atmosphere generally have a cooling effect, as after big volcanic explosions like Krakatoa. I've even heard suggestions that bomb explosions should be used deliberately to combat global warming!
Neil Midkiff, interesting input, but I would never fathom a suggestion of nuclear winter to combat global warming. Yes, it would cool the Earth, but in its wake, eradicate countless flora and fauna. I would like to know from whom you heard this suggestion please? Was it off the cuff, or based off fact and data, skewed or real?
I was born the next day.
What exactly do they mean by a "legitimate singer?"
They're talking about someone who sings on Broadway, or in cabarets/nightclubs rather than a pop singer. Sometimes it's used to differentiate from theater vs. TV or movies. ETA: there are several episodes where they treat rock & roll music/musicians as little more than a passing fad.
When describing vocal style, "legitimate" includes a wide range of kinds of shows and songs, including opera, operetta, classical, traditional musical comedy, and more. It's mostly a question of vocal technique: is the singer projecting the voice using lung power, as every singer had to do before amplification? I'm not saying that mikes can never be associated with legit singing, as for broadcast, recording, or to overcome acoustic problems in a venue. But the kind of singing that relies on a microphone just inches from the lips in order to pick up the voice falls outside the legit category in my book.
The term "legitimate theater" has somewhat overlapping meaning but different roots; it derives from British stage censorship, when one had to get royal permission to open a theater, and (from the Theatres Act 1843 until 1968) any scripted show had to be submitted to the Lord Chamberlain's office a week before opening to get a license to perform it. This included plays, operas, and "book" musicals, but not vaudeville, music hall, and revue. So "legitimate" is here a rough synonym for "licensed."
Elmer Fudd isn't on this one -- good!
he gets on my nerves
Sad they think Dorothy was murdered!
She knew too much
I think she was.
A book, The Reporter who Knew Too Much, was written about her dogged pursuit of the identities of the assassins of John F. Kennedy. Apparently she got too close to unmasking them, and was warned not to continue in her pursuit, but she wouldn't back off. The villains made her death look like a substance overdose, stole her notes and documents, and their identities remain unknown. I am sorry I don't remember the name of the author of the book- authors ought to get credit for their work. An actor on one of the franchises of Law and Order has done some research about this topic. Rats. I can't think of his name either.
Arlene was flirting with the weatherman in front of her husband.
He flirts with pretty women on the show in front of her too. I guess you missed that part?
I heard Uncle Milty's junk was as big as the cigars he smoked.
My god…. She looks like a magic mushroom 😂😂
Makes horses hats? Looks like she's wearing one.
Thanks for the post! My mother, MILDRED BEERY is the person who made "Hats for Horses". I was raised In St. Augustine Florida.
The highest prize is $50?!
Times have certainly changed!
Andromeda they get more after the game is over. i think it’s around $250-$300.
In 1958, $50 is worth $452 now.
I can't help wondering what Arlene and Martin had in common. Arlene was such a witty, charming, warm and not to forget beautiful woman. And then.... Martin Gabel?? I can't find anything attractive about him, and by attractive I mean as much inner beauty.
+Celisar1 My thought exactly.
AmeRic
He wasn't too attractive, no, but much better looking when he was younger and a fine actor who was in Orson Welles Mercury Theatre co. Check out this photo of Arlene and him! images.nypl.org/index.php?id=psnypl_the_4912&t=w
Maybe someone understated was a good fit. He's not my idea of handsome but I like him. He has a little charm. And he sometimes strikes me as a bit romantic.
I thought Martin to be very smart and kind man.
ah I miss the days when climate change was caused by all the atomic explosions
Mildred Berry, what in the HELL have you got on your head!!??
Was the horse hat lady wearing a hat made for horses?
I think so.
Good question. It’s a hideous hat
Thanks for the post! My mother, MILDRED BEERY is the person who made "Hats for Horses". I was raised In St. Augustine Florida.
Arlene sadly surprisingly wearing one of the worst outfits of the series, whereas Dorothy’s was beautiful.
on the contrary, I thought Arlene's dress quite ravishing!
Fred Allen, who was the rudest man on this show isn't on it anymore, but that still doesn't stop other people from being rude :(
Even if some WAS large, they're not gonna ADMIT it!
I thought that too!
Mrs. Berry, who makes decorative horse's hats, has quite a strange and unattractive hat of her own! Not very becoming.
Thanks for the post! My mother, MILDRED BEERY is the person who made "Hats for Horses". I was raised In St. Augustine Florida.
Rtilbi,
Never cared for Berl's comedy.
Because ure a boring nerd
These shows are so snooty, lol. The way they talked, the way they act,I can imagine every one of these people, panelists, host, walked around with their nose permanently stuck up into the air.
It's called "class."
@@accomplice55 It's called being a snob. you don't have to be a snob to have class. In fact I would argue the opposite
@@accomplice55 I mean, come on, "Ro-de-o"? Who says it like that? I live in rodeo country and never once have heard it pronounced like that. That is the most pretentious way of saying rodeo I have ever heard.
@@travis303 It is the Spanish pronunciation. It is Ro day o Drive in LA/BH.
@@travis303very low-class observation.