I've wondered why exactly Alessa awoke and released her rage on Silent Hill when she did; hard to believe it was a coincidence that it happened when Harry and Cheryl were arriving in town. But they'd been to Silent Hill before and Alessa hadn't roused then. My thought is that because her caregiver Dr. Kauffman had gone into hiding she hadn't been getting the rounds of drugs that kept her abilities suppressed as of late and she was able sense the impending arrival of her other half.
They should really call you The Symbolic Muse, your so detailed in analysing meaningful games and characters. It's kinda disturbing how i find Alessa, Lisa and Angela parallel eachother, none of them survive but leaves something behind, their names have A and L, their stories revolve around hopelessness and have a history that involves abuse, misery and manipulation, all three have a association with the colors Red and White. Hoping your gonna do Lisa Garland though.
yassine Farah Oh snap! An aleph (A) and a lamed (L)! This is Hebrew of el, or God. Kabbalistic obvious that I just picked up. AL, is the letters that generally end the name of an angel.
Red and white are also two major symbolic colors for the MKUltra brainwashing program. Black and white checkerboard pattern is another major one. S1 of Stranger Things was all about this. Marilyn Monroe and Britney Spears are two of the most well known Kitten (sex slave) program victims, and MM was the first presidential model (kitten for the president).
Alessa has been through hell with her abusive mother and the Cult, as Cheryl she learned about love and joy through her father. As Heather she learned love and maturity and thinking from Harry. Even after Harrys death you could tell Cheryl/Heather became independent and learned that life isnt fair and that one must move foward through hardship and turmoil. Cheryl even though not being related to Harry was not ashamed of her adoptive fathers last name "Mason".
If you want to really dig deep into the lore and backgrounds of the SH games, I suggest checking out The Real Silent Hill Experience -series by TwinPerfect.
In another level alessa is a powerful goddess, she created another being using part of her soul and still she was able of creating the other world and all its entities. To me, alessa already is the goddess they tried to summon, alas, their ignorance to this created all the mess and made them evoke a false God, multiple times. This demon used the order to enter the world. Just a thought....
Actually, when she was born, the city transfered its powers to her, in order to ensure that the time paradox which happens in the first game is maintained so that the city is born. Alessa isn't meant to be God's incarnation, she's meant to be Her mother in order to raise Her so when she comes to adulthood, she brings paradise in the right way, not the Cult's.
Technically the fire wasn’t apart of the ritual. Alessa became so distressed during the ritual and blows up the boiler and was burned horribly. Despite that detail the video does a good job analyzing Alessa.
I disagree, mostly due to some information I found on the SH Wiki. A member of Team Silent confirmed that he believed the burning was done on purpose by the cult, and the boiler was a cover up. I think that makes the best sense, especially given the traditional use of fire as a method of transformation and magic in many traditions.
I thought that Dahlia intended to do the ritual without fire, but Alessa's powers blew up the boiler in the basement setting the house on fire. Dahlia "realized" the potential that the fire could have on the ritual so she decided to leave Alessa to burn, as seen in the beginning of Origins.
Yeah that makes the most sense to me (what Galaxion says), and is also the earliest-established version of events in the games, although fans including those who write the wiki argue about this all the time. I personally reckon that the people making Origins just wanted the ritual to look more visually gruesome (for the extra evil points), so that's why they changed the fire to be deliberate. I think that was a bit of a dumb decision, but yeah clearly some prefer that version. I hadn't heard before the idea that Dahlia in Origins was opportunistic in using the fire when it did happen by accident. That's... interesting. It marries together two things in the games that were arguing with each other, and makes them not argue any more. Neat thought. If anyone wanted more detail on why I don't buy the "deliberate fire plan" version of events, I made my own post to that effect.
Alessa is also the only survivor of the game, just like Danny survived the Hotel Overlook twice, Alessa in both situation managed to defeat the power of SH, something that a normal person can't do. I guess Alessa protected Henry somehow, or Henry survived because he wasn't on SH.
I think that the flauros actually augments Alessa's powers and makes her lose control of it. If i am not wrong, on origins a demon is trapped inside the flauros, but in SH1, which is chronologically after SH0, the flauros is used in Alessa. It's as if the flauros is actually forcing the demon into Alessa. And i dare to say that " *that demon* " is actually the seed of The Cult's God, and the ritual would not be completed at the final-fight if not for the Flauros.
Umm... it's the other way around, the keys of eclipse are The Wizard of Oz, and the hospital puzzle are Alice in Wonderland. Edit: I just realized this video is over is one year old...
I always figured she was a combination of alessa and Cheryl, this she did feel love. The love he had for his daughter, and this is why she entrusts him with a new baby. Not because she wants heather to go through what she ends up going through, but to give back to harry. She dies but lives on. Both of them get another chance at happiness.
@@sabrinareese3880 Yes. If you want the optimistic aspects of the story. A pessimistic Interpretation of this is that the Incubator is actually "God"(I saw this in the book of lost memories). So, the idea was that God sort of tricked Harry into giving him a chance to come back again and be reborn. Aside from that, if we wanted to go by this theory, Alessa failed and died alone, trying to give her other self another chance at life, which sort of backfires as it gets the only person valuable in her life killed. Regardless, she won in the end. I know that Alessa is Cheryl, but the image of that part of her dying in her own nightmarish world after years of abuse is somewhat depressing.
I aint gonna lie. I cried when I found out what they did to that little girl during my first playthrough. I did during the movie too. For Alessa and Dhalia. I can identify in some ways with her persecution.
Loved it, especially the connection with Cassandra! After this, I'd love to see your take on Travis Grady, especially considering that Alessa essentially loaned him some power...
I feel bad for Alessa after she was raped, bullied, tortured, and threaten to be killed by people because she has power like what makes it difference? She's a human being and with a gift you people wanna torture a innocent child with power? It's just crazy like really crazy.
Gillespie is the name of special effect supervisor of OZ . Make sens ... Underworld is her nightmare projections after all... I know silent hill since 99. And 20years later those 3 original game still hide a lot of things...
brilliant video, alessa is one of my favourite characters in silent hill. although i still refuse to believe that alessa was purposely burned alive. It just seems contradictory to keep her alive after sacrificing her. boiler explosion causing the fire just seems like true canon to me. But like, regardless of what happened it doesnt change the story or symbolic nature of the character.
TS was influenced by Aztec religion, Left-Handed occultism, and demonology. There’s also some pretty clear influences from Lovecraft (a black magic using cult from a small town bringing an eldritch god into this world). It seems clear that the being the Order calls “God” feeds off pain and suffering, so keeping Alessa alive would’ve been necessary to further feed their god. Claudia even outright states that Heather had to nourish “God” with all the pain, suffering, and hate in her heart. Claudia’s logic is that a god born of suffering would be more compassionate to humans, but Dahlia and earlier Order members likely had other ideas.
I'd love to see your breakdown of the Halo of the Sun! Lots of different symbols there, it would be very interesting to see how they all work together.
Did you use a track from Fable(I want to say two or three) the glockenspielish music playing in the background about a quarter of the way through. You've used it in several videos. I ask out of curiosity of course, no other motive.
Loved most of this except the silent hill orgins. The 1st game made it clear that the ritual took place in the basement. But alessa interrupted the ritual, causing the boiler to explode with her physic abilities and split her soul in half before they can continue
I was hoping you'd fix your errors but you left them open Alessa didn't create Cheryl, she IS Cheryl. Alessa split her soul to weaken her powers so "god" wouldn't be born the ritual happened in the alter room not the second floor the burning was an accident and caused Alessa to be moved to Alchemilla to save her life you used origins to further explain the situation and ended up taking data from a source that had no input from Team Silent
Alessa created Cheryl from part of herself. Have you’ve heard of Inuyasha? Well the main baddie, Naraku, creates other beings from part of himself. They’re all their own people (or rather demons) but they were all created from Naraku
Nice video. Warning: impending fandom style nitpick! Heh. I can understand trying to be evenhanded with all the games, and go with what they seem to agree on. But they don't. I know a lot of fans go with this version, with the ritual involving Alessa being deliberately burned alive... probably because it sounds more evil (extracting magic power out of a child against her will apparently not being evil enough by itself). But that version cemented by Origins (a game I really like in lots of other ways) still bothers me. Basically, this doesn't add up in my mind: I'm Dahlia. My daughter Alessa has magical powers. I want them. I know a ritual that can get them. I am in league with the boss of the main hospital. He has a sub-basement full of fireproof concrete rooms clearly not in frequent use. This is an area he successfully stops the regular hospital staff from going into. This would be the perfect place to do a ritual that involves burning someone alive. I'll do it there. Obviously. Why anywhere else? Or... I could perform the ritual in my own house, which is made of wood. Lose my own house. Which I live in. Not anyone else's house! Cause a huge piece of news that draws unwanted public attention specifically toward me and my activities. Possibly even risk someone intervening (hallo Travis). Somehow get Alessa out of the building myself... who I'm not physically strong enough to pull without her cooperation, as shown in a scene in SH1. Not have anyone waiting to collect us in an ambulance after we escape the blaze. On my own, on foot, somehow get her all the way across town to that hospital, without drawing further unwanted attention. Nothing to see here, folks! And only THEN begin trying to keep her alive. Which I clearly desperately need to succeed at, in order for this whole thing to work. And... I'll have the police fabricate evidence of a boiler explosion. To cover this up. Or... The ritual doesn't involve burning her alive. Nothing of the sort. Thus, I don't have any reason to imagine my house will burn down. This eliminates any bad consequence of doing the ritual in my own house. Basically I could perform it anywhere. Once I'm done, I'll have my cult friends pop by casually, which I'm not panicked about, since there's no way anyone saw this happen. ... but then... Oh no! I mistakenly underestimate the immediate raw power of her magic! This causes a boiler to explode during the ritual, which starts a fire. None of this went according to plan. Now I have to deal with these unintended consequences, for which I am unprepared. Now seriously, what makes most sense? The first one that agrees with "burning alive ritual", and adds up, but never happened in any of the games? The second one that agrees with "burning alive ritual", and is Origins's version of events, that doesn't add up whatsoever? Or the third one, that disagrees with "burning alive ritual", just has it be a type of ritual not involving fire, is SH1's version of events, and has no logic problems at all? I just plain and simply can't see someone shown to be as plotting, deliberate and manipulative as Dahlia be so inexplicably stupid.
I don't think Dahlia is stupid, I think she is unhinged. She's unpredictable and irrational, and it's clear in SH1 that's the impression they want us to have of her - think of her outfit, barefoot, with a robe and a tie. I agree that the ritual itself, the way it is performed in Origins, doesn't make sense, but I don't think it's implausible if we consider that Dahlia herself wasn't acting rationally. Also, it was a pretty sure way to make Alessa disappear - the town thought she died in the fire. Taking her to the hospital alive, and having her disappear there would be much more suspicious. I think your idea makes sense, but I can see how the Origins version would play out.
Hmm. I guess I just see her as too deliberate and organized to sabotage her own plans in that way. Just from the sheer lengths she goes to try and manipulate Harry (yes, including how she presents herself). One game arguing with another game is always going to lead to that kind of fandom split I suppose. And it's a lot less overtly shown in SH1, more just clued-at. So I guess I do understand people going with the Origins take on it. I don't see someone dieing in a hospital as suspicious though. Just off the top of my head - accidental poisoning. Aglaophotis. Playing by herself in the garden, nobody knew the plant was growing there, mother found her too late to rush her to the hospital in time. Clean, believable, expert opinion, no public spectacle, middle page news story at worst. Or any other of the many reasonable explanations a hospital director / drug emperor could come up with. Seems like a long list. Or y'know... not all rituals have to involve immolation! Whatever happened to just some spooky chanting and the sprinkling of weird ingredients? The odd violent slap here and there, bit of bloodletting, maybe some light gyromancy. :) I suppose I just don't know why that game felt the inclination to fix what wasn't broken, with something that is.
Cool will check it out. I've not heard any explanation beyond just those two before, interesting. The way RUclips does comments, it's not above mine when I'm looking at it, since it puts all your own comments at the top automatically. But I'm sure it's easy to find.
@@Torthrodhel A few years later, I know, but consider this excerpt from a SH3 memo: In another sacrificial rite mentioned in the same book, the victim is burned alive. This was a more dignified ceremony in which prisoners and sinners were not allowed to participate. Only the clergy could be sacrificed. Similar to burning at the stake, no comparable rite can be found in religions practiced nearby. It may have some connection with the main deity being a sun god. So, yeah, I'd say Alessa's was a deliberate immolation. Yes, burnt down house, but why would Dahlia care about that when God's birth would usher in Paradise? Besides, there's always that Chapel by the amusement park!
It doesn't, that's true, and it's my least favorite of the games, but it's possibly to glean things from the game which are interesting or relevant without going too off course. I try to incorporate the entire mythos from all the games as much as I can, while also being aware that some of them aren't as well designed.
I still don't get the so-called potholes between Origins and 1, a lot of those that have been pointed out to me were explained by thinking a little bit outside of the box
@@jorgecaimanque6951 true,and sadly most people dont think outside the box. Only believe what they see . Videogames,especially like silent hill or metal gear,are designed the way you have to use your mind and imagination . Sadly there are a ton of other examples like this around
Thanks for the video muse... in New Orleans we have a street called elysian fields...i grew up on it 😂 our city isn’t related to any greek history from what i know of just french but its pretty cool.
Alessa's story is so tragic that girl doesn't deserve what happened to her
I know....Hearing her story made me cry...😢
Alessa has always been one of my favorites. She is rich in lore and I’m glad you talked about her.
She is spawned like 2 times.
Shes also replying to you! (Just kidding but my real name is Alessa)
No it’s not
Yea it is I'd gladly give u the birth certificate but I don't think so
I've wondered why exactly Alessa awoke and released her rage on Silent Hill when she did; hard to believe it was a coincidence that it happened when Harry and Cheryl were arriving in town. But they'd been to Silent Hill before and Alessa hadn't roused then. My thought is that because her caregiver Dr. Kauffman had gone into hiding she hadn't been getting the rounds of drugs that kept her abilities suppressed as of late and she was able sense the impending arrival of her other half.
They should really call you The Symbolic Muse, your so detailed in analysing meaningful games and characters.
It's kinda disturbing how i find Alessa, Lisa and Angela parallel eachother, none of them survive but leaves something behind, their names have A and L, their stories revolve around hopelessness and have a history that involves abuse, misery and manipulation, all three have a association with the colors Red and White.
Hoping your gonna do Lisa Garland though.
yassine Farah Oh snap! An aleph (A) and a lamed (L)! This is Hebrew of el, or God.
Kabbalistic obvious that I just picked up.
AL, is the letters that generally end the name of an angel.
Red and white are also two major symbolic colors for the MKUltra brainwashing program. Black and white checkerboard pattern is another major one. S1 of Stranger Things was all about this. Marilyn Monroe and Britney Spears are two of the most well known Kitten (sex slave) program victims, and MM was the first presidential model (kitten for the president).
Alessa has been through hell with her abusive mother and the Cult, as Cheryl she learned about love and joy through her father. As Heather she learned love and maturity and thinking from Harry. Even after Harrys death you could tell Cheryl/Heather became independent and learned that life isnt fair and that one must move foward through hardship and turmoil.
Cheryl even though not being related to Harry was not ashamed of her adoptive fathers last name "Mason".
Omg you're so into SH stuff. I love it and I wish Konami would see it.
And do what exactly? Make another SH pachinko machine?
It's 6am but I needed my spooks, thanks Mama Muse.
Love ur black cat icon
Literally just finished playing silent hill 3 again and this gets uploaded, coincidence I think not lol
I'm inlove with this series. I have always wanted to know more of the characters in the games. And you do it GREAT
If you want to really dig deep into the lore and backgrounds of the SH games, I suggest checking out The Real Silent Hill Experience -series by TwinPerfect.
In another level alessa is a powerful goddess, she created another being using part of her soul and still she was able of creating the other world and all its entities. To me, alessa already is the goddess they tried to summon, alas, their ignorance to this created all the mess and made them evoke a false God, multiple times. This demon used the order to enter the world. Just a thought....
Actually, when she was born, the city transfered its powers to her, in order to ensure that the time paradox which happens in the first game is maintained so that the city is born. Alessa isn't meant to be God's incarnation, she's meant to be Her mother in order to raise Her so when she comes to adulthood, she brings paradise in the right way, not the Cult's.
You're always doing a good job, thank you.
Was obssessed with these games when they came out back then, still is.
Technically the fire wasn’t apart of the ritual. Alessa became so distressed during the ritual and blows up the boiler and was burned horribly. Despite that detail the video does a good job analyzing Alessa.
I disagree, mostly due to some information I found on the SH Wiki. A member of Team Silent confirmed that he believed the burning was done on purpose by the cult, and the boiler was a cover up. I think that makes the best sense, especially given the traditional use of fire as a method of transformation and magic in many traditions.
I thought that Dahlia intended to do the ritual without fire, but Alessa's powers blew up the boiler in the basement setting the house on fire. Dahlia "realized" the potential that the fire could have on the ritual so she decided to leave Alessa to burn, as seen in the beginning of Origins.
Yeah that makes the most sense to me (what Galaxion says), and is also the earliest-established version of events in the games, although fans including those who write the wiki argue about this all the time. I personally reckon that the people making Origins just wanted the ritual to look more visually gruesome (for the extra evil points), so that's why they changed the fire to be deliberate. I think that was a bit of a dumb decision, but yeah clearly some prefer that version.
I hadn't heard before the idea that Dahlia in Origins was opportunistic in using the fire when it did happen by accident. That's... interesting. It marries together two things in the games that were arguing with each other, and makes them not argue any more. Neat thought.
If anyone wanted more detail on why I don't buy the "deliberate fire plan" version of events, I made my own post to that effect.
Alessa is also the only survivor of the game, just like Danny survived the Hotel Overlook twice, Alessa in both situation managed to defeat the power of SH, something that a normal person can't do. I guess Alessa protected Henry somehow, or Henry survived because he wasn't on SH.
“but there was another famous Alexandra throughout history... and her name was Cassandra.”
oh alright lol
I may have framed it in a confusing way, but what I meant to convey was that she was known by both names.
no you’re totally fine i’m just poking fun at ya 😇 i know what you meant
I think that the flauros actually augments Alessa's powers and makes her lose control of it.
If i am not wrong, on origins a demon is trapped inside the flauros, but in SH1, which is chronologically after SH0, the flauros is used in Alessa.
It's as if the flauros is actually forcing the demon into Alessa.
And i dare to say that " *that demon* " is actually the seed of The Cult's God, and the ritual would not be completed at the final-fight if not for the Flauros.
I'm glad you're still making SH vids :)
Umm... it's the other way around, the keys of eclipse are The Wizard of Oz, and the hospital puzzle are Alice in Wonderland.
Edit: I just realized this video is over is one year old...
I’m sooooo grateful for this! Thank you!
It always saddens me that she died alone.
After giving Harry a new baby.
That version of her..... Never received, nor gave love. 😞
I always figured she was a combination of alessa and Cheryl, this she did feel love. The love he had for his daughter, and this is why she entrusts him with a new baby. Not because she wants heather to go through what she ends up going through, but to give back to harry. She dies but lives on.
Both of them get another chance at happiness.
@@sabrinareese3880 Yes. If you want the optimistic aspects of the story. A pessimistic Interpretation of this is that the Incubator is actually "God"(I saw this in the book of lost memories). So, the idea was that God sort of tricked Harry into giving him a chance to come back again and be reborn.
Aside from that, if we wanted to go by this theory, Alessa failed and died alone, trying to give her other self another chance at life, which sort of backfires as it gets the only person valuable in her life killed. Regardless, she won in the end.
I know that Alessa is Cheryl, but the image of that part of her dying in her own nightmarish world after years of abuse is somewhat depressing.
I aint gonna lie. I cried when I found out what they did to that little girl during my first playthrough. I did during the movie too. For Alessa and Dhalia. I can identify in some ways with her persecution.
I love the intro, really sets the tone
😢i resonate with alessas story so much. Its so bittersweet. Great explaination .
Thank you for uploading this excellent video! ☺
Loved it, especially the connection with Cassandra! After this, I'd love to see your take on Travis Grady, especially considering that Alessa essentially loaned him some power...
Well Travy saved her although she was burned.
@@fuziontonygaming But why couldn't she do the same for Harry, the man who raised (part of) her for years?
@@metal_fusion I'm talking about the first Silent Hill, when Harry had to brave Silent Hill's horrors all by himself.
Been waiting for this!
You should make more videos on games. I enjoy driving around for work and throwing on a couple of your videos every shift
video about Halo of the Sun would be so goooooood! We need that Mama!
I feel bad for Alessa after she was raped, bullied, tortured, and threaten to be killed by people because she has power like what makes it difference? She's a human being and with a gift you people wanna torture a innocent child with power? It's just crazy like really crazy.
Gillespie is the name of special effect supervisor of OZ .
Make sens ... Underworld is her nightmare projections after all...
I know silent hill since 99.
And 20years later those 3 original game still hide a lot of things...
brilliant video, alessa is one of my favourite characters in silent hill.
although i still refuse to believe that alessa was purposely burned alive. It just seems contradictory to keep her alive after sacrificing her. boiler explosion causing the fire just seems like true canon to me. But like, regardless of what happened it doesnt change the story or symbolic nature of the character.
Her mom didn’t seem to care her daughter was burning. Dahlia was so nonchalant about Alessa burning when she was talking to Travis
TS was influenced by Aztec religion, Left-Handed occultism, and demonology. There’s also some pretty clear influences from Lovecraft (a black magic using cult from a small town bringing an eldritch god into this world).
It seems clear that the being the Order calls “God” feeds off pain and suffering, so keeping Alessa alive would’ve been necessary to further feed their god. Claudia even outright states that Heather had to nourish “God” with all the pain, suffering, and hate in her heart. Claudia’s logic is that a god born of suffering would be more compassionate to humans, but Dahlia and earlier Order members likely had other ideas.
great video ! love your SH series, been a fan of the game since the first in 1999, LOVE THESE! :)
I'd love to see your breakdown of the Halo of the Sun! Lots of different symbols there, it would be very interesting to see how they all work together.
I love your videos! Keep it up girl~
omg great series, massive fan of silent hill I have no doubt that this channel will get 1M+ subs soon :)
I’m sorry but I always lmao at 7:02 😭
Fucking great vid my mind always gets blowned away by the knowledge
Love this series and the videos. Keep them coming.
Can we theorize that pryamid head could be the demon in the flaruos? He has a triangular prisim over his head after all..
Its 2am but I'm ready!
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Alessa my favorite character in silent hill 😇
Great video!
Thank you I like these lore videos
Did you use a track from Fable(I want to say two or three) the glockenspielish music playing in the background about a quarter of the way through. You've used it in several videos. I ask out of curiosity of course, no other motive.
I love this series!
I don't mind if you go off topic regarding the symbols, that would be cool actually. There's always a pause button of time is an issue
Awesome! Maybe a video about the halo of the sun? if is possible to explore more about this fascinating piece of work from the cult.
4:39 There's no such thing as "flying dinosaurs". They called "pterosaurs". Great video though.
Loved most of this except the silent hill orgins. The 1st game made it clear that the ritual took place in the basement. But alessa interrupted the ritual, causing the boiler to explode with her physic abilities and split her soul in half before they can continue
I was hoping you'd fix your errors but you left them open
Alessa didn't create Cheryl, she IS Cheryl. Alessa split her soul to weaken her powers so "god" wouldn't be born
the ritual happened in the alter room not the second floor
the burning was an accident and caused Alessa to be moved to Alchemilla to save her life
you used origins to further explain the situation and ended up taking data from a source that had no input from Team Silent
Alessa created Cheryl from part of herself. Have you’ve heard of Inuyasha? Well the main baddie, Naraku, creates other beings from part of himself. They’re all their own people (or rather demons) but they were all created from Naraku
good morning! go moooornin! that's new muses video! good morning, good morning to you!
I like your silent hill symbolism, please make more silent hill lore,muse
They say light leads insects to them thru darkness... This once bright now dark beacon even harkens this one
Lisa Garland was named after Judy Garland.
i look forward to watching your vids over some dabs and food
Actually, I think you got that mixed up. The keys for the eclipse are from Wizard of Oz and the tablets are Alice in Wonderland.
THANK YOU!!!
You mean that the keys are from the Wizard of Oz and the tablets in the hospital are from Alice in Wonderland.
Yep - I got it switched around. Whoops xp
Nice video. Warning: impending fandom style nitpick! Heh. I can understand trying to be evenhanded with all the games, and go with what they seem to agree on. But they don't. I know a lot of fans go with this version, with the ritual involving Alessa being deliberately burned alive... probably because it sounds more evil (extracting magic power out of a child against her will apparently not being evil enough by itself). But that version cemented by Origins (a game I really like in lots of other ways) still bothers me. Basically, this doesn't add up in my mind:
I'm Dahlia.
My daughter Alessa has magical powers.
I want them.
I know a ritual that can get them.
I am in league with the boss of the main hospital.
He has a sub-basement full of fireproof concrete rooms clearly not in frequent use.
This is an area he successfully stops the regular hospital staff from going into.
This would be the perfect place to do a ritual that involves burning someone alive.
I'll do it there. Obviously. Why anywhere else?
Or...
I could perform the ritual in my own house, which is made of wood.
Lose my own house. Which I live in. Not anyone else's house!
Cause a huge piece of news that draws unwanted public attention specifically toward me and my activities.
Possibly even risk someone intervening (hallo Travis).
Somehow get Alessa out of the building myself... who I'm not physically strong enough to pull without her cooperation, as shown in a scene in SH1.
Not have anyone waiting to collect us in an ambulance after we escape the blaze.
On my own, on foot, somehow get her all the way across town to that hospital, without drawing further unwanted attention. Nothing to see here, folks!
And only THEN begin trying to keep her alive. Which I clearly desperately need to succeed at, in order for this whole thing to work.
And... I'll have the police fabricate evidence of a boiler explosion. To cover this up.
Or...
The ritual doesn't involve burning her alive. Nothing of the sort.
Thus, I don't have any reason to imagine my house will burn down.
This eliminates any bad consequence of doing the ritual in my own house. Basically I could perform it anywhere.
Once I'm done, I'll have my cult friends pop by casually, which I'm not panicked about, since there's no way anyone saw this happen.
... but then...
Oh no! I mistakenly underestimate the immediate raw power of her magic!
This causes a boiler to explode during the ritual, which starts a fire.
None of this went according to plan.
Now I have to deal with these unintended consequences, for which I am unprepared.
Now seriously, what makes most sense? The first one that agrees with "burning alive ritual", and adds up, but never happened in any of the games? The second one that agrees with "burning alive ritual", and is Origins's version of events, that doesn't add up whatsoever? Or the third one, that disagrees with "burning alive ritual", just has it be a type of ritual not involving fire, is SH1's version of events, and has no logic problems at all? I just plain and simply can't see someone shown to be as plotting, deliberate and manipulative as Dahlia be so inexplicably stupid.
I don't think Dahlia is stupid, I think she is unhinged. She's unpredictable and irrational, and it's clear in SH1 that's the impression they want us to have of her - think of her outfit, barefoot, with a robe and a tie. I agree that the ritual itself, the way it is performed in Origins, doesn't make sense, but I don't think it's implausible if we consider that Dahlia herself wasn't acting rationally. Also, it was a pretty sure way to make Alessa disappear - the town thought she died in the fire. Taking her to the hospital alive, and having her disappear there would be much more suspicious. I think your idea makes sense, but I can see how the Origins version would play out.
Hmm. I guess I just see her as too deliberate and organized to sabotage her own plans in that way. Just from the sheer lengths she goes to try and manipulate Harry (yes, including how she presents herself). One game arguing with another game is always going to lead to that kind of fandom split I suppose. And it's a lot less overtly shown in SH1, more just clued-at. So I guess I do understand people going with the Origins take on it.
I don't see someone dieing in a hospital as suspicious though. Just off the top of my head - accidental poisoning. Aglaophotis. Playing by herself in the garden, nobody knew the plant was growing there, mother found her too late to rush her to the hospital in time. Clean, believable, expert opinion, no public spectacle, middle page news story at worst. Or any other of the many reasonable explanations a hospital director / drug emperor could come up with. Seems like a long list.
Or y'know... not all rituals have to involve immolation! Whatever happened to just some spooky chanting and the sprinkling of weird ingredients? The odd violent slap here and there, bit of bloodletting, maybe some light gyromancy. :)
I suppose I just don't know why that game felt the inclination to fix what wasn't broken, with something that is.
Read my comment above, I have a theory of what really happened in the Gillespie house. Just another point of view.
Cool will check it out. I've not heard any explanation beyond just those two before, interesting. The way RUclips does comments, it's not above mine when I'm looking at it, since it puts all your own comments at the top automatically. But I'm sure it's easy to find.
@@Torthrodhel A few years later, I know, but consider this excerpt from a SH3 memo:
In another sacrificial rite mentioned
in the same book, the victim is
burned alive.
This was a more dignified ceremony
in which prisoners and sinners were
not allowed to participate. Only the
clergy could be sacrificed.
Similar to burning at the stake, no
comparable rite can be found in
religions practiced nearby. It may
have some connection with the
main deity being a sun god.
So, yeah, I'd say Alessa's was a deliberate immolation. Yes, burnt down house, but why would Dahlia care about that when God's birth would usher in Paradise? Besides, there's always that Chapel by the amusement park!
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good stuff I thought Alessa only existed after the merry go round in SH3
Never knew she was mentioned in SH1
@@scottlage8131 she isnt mentioned she is what silent hill 1 is about lol
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Hi currently dibbin' on Silent Hill. Just wondering among the Silent Hill sequels where did it show a (burned) teenage Alessa wrapped in bandage?
Silent hill 2 used the red pyramid to save.
just found out about your videos today. very cool. look forward to more of them
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Do one for the sacriments
ooh very nice. are you planing anything for the halloween season?
Absolutely, though I'll keep it to myself for a while longer.
thegamingmuse Yayyyy
@@thegamingmuse ok cool. I won't spoil the surprise.
sounds like velma dinkley did this voice over
Poor alessa gillespie
Travis.. Travis do him next
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We agree it is a evil error of humanity that created this end of alessa
What is the song that is played towards the end?
So are u going to make a video about the save symbol?
I actually have - ruclips.net/video/q88dTrlJOBA/видео.html.
So. In 2 Alessa created the Maria/Mary figure? If she created that did she meet Mary?
The Town Made María not alessa
dbd main skin
Intro music ?
She is like me
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It really, really is. xD
Silent Hill Origins poorly re-tells the Alessa's origin and it does not connect well with Silent Hill 1.
It doesn't, that's true, and it's my least favorite of the games, but it's possibly to glean things from the game which are interesting or relevant without going too off course. I try to incorporate the entire mythos from all the games as much as I can, while also being aware that some of them aren't as well designed.
The post Team-Silent games aren't well developed and the stories are just bland. I really enjoy your videos and keep up the good work :)
I still don't get the so-called potholes between Origins and 1, a lot of those that have been pointed out to me were explained by thinking a little bit outside of the box
@@jorgecaimanque6951 true,and sadly most people dont think outside the box. Only believe what they see . Videogames,especially like silent hill or metal gear,are designed the way you have to use your mind and imagination . Sadly there are a ton of other examples like this around
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I love your videos but I dislike the use of non-Team Silent lore and information. Konami didn't - and still doesn't - understand Silent Hill.
Silent hill wiki isn't very credible
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I like your vids but your voice just doesn't draw me in like similar yt I watch
"Origins" considered as part of lore? I'm sorry, can't watch past that....
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