Nikon Z F vs. Sony A7C II | Nikon Is Winning
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
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Earlier this year I collaborated with @nikonusa for the release of their new retro inspired full frame mirrorless camera the Nikon Z F to create a short mini doc to test the Nikon Z F in the field to get a hands on review on what I thought about the camera.
This camera is not only aesthetically pleasing but it has a lot of the technical features of the Nikon z8 and z9 but in a smaller and cheaper package. It is very comparative to the Sony A7cii in specs so it comes down to which camera will inspires you to make magic! Is it time to let the Nikon jokes go? Are they fighting for their right in the filmmaking space with this camera?
In this video I give my thoughts on the Nikon Z F, I also compared it to the Sony A7CII as I had the opportunity to test that camera on release last month and I talk about who I think camera is for!
00:00 - Intro
00:11 - Mini Doc Shot On The Nikon ZF
01:10 - Specs
02:05 - Ergonomics
02:50 - Black & White Feature
03:52 - Technical Specs of the Camera
06:09 - Nikon ZF vs. Sony A7cii
06:32 - Comparison Key specs
07:24 - Who this camera is for
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The zf is the camera i didn't know i wanted. Pretty much full frame nikon fuji. I just sold my z6 and a few old lenses and have already preorderd. Now if they can just send the cameras already. Tired of hunting for reviews
My fav review on this camera thus far, thank you for the breakdown of the Nikon ZF! Love your communication style, footage and editing approach.
Thank you so much!!!
Sis this mini doc is something special! You’ve been in your bag lately and I love it!
Thank you so much!!
I always wanted to buy retro looking camera with good spec, I think this is the one that I wanted.
Great video! I was looking for more reviews of the video side and am happy you got the camera to test. Nikon didn’t seem to produce many units to lend out for days or weeks. Only people that were a part of the development process seemed to have them for more than a few hours. Thanks for giving us a documentary and sharing your thoughts.
Nikon is so different where they don’t let anyone have the camera unless a rep is there which is weird because we don’t get to really dive in. But it’s very similar to the Sony a7cii. Crazy is the rep didn’t even know it was 4k crop till I pointed it out trying to shoot slow motion lol.
But yea hope it helped
@@BrittneyJanae Nikon needs to make sure the folks they send out are well versed with the product, this way when they provide it, they can explain the tech and features, that way each creator can test the features and provide a well balanced preview.
Awesome video! Great to see actual footage, even of a short project, very nice! I'm a Nikon DSLR user and I'm very interest in that camera, thanks for the video
Thank you!! It’s a good camera if you’re okay with not having 4k/60 no crop
Fantastic work on the camera. Zf is the camera for me. You have convinced me. Thank you.
I have the zfc and love it. I've been waiting for this camera!
Nice!! It’s a fun cam!
I love this mini doc! Great shots ❤❤
Thank you!!
I've seen so many mixed feelings about the Nikon ZF. Honestly it is way out of my current budget, but the ZF is the camera I've been wanting for years. Currently I am in the Microfourthirds system shooting photos, but the ZF is my wishful thinking camera.
It’s a good camera. I didn’t really have any issues outside of the 4k/60 crop. Everything else is pretty standard. It’s nice to have the same sensor as the z8. But I think if you’re happy with what you have no need to switch.
@@BrittneyJanae I am definitely happy with my MFT, I shoot an Olympus E-M1X that does the trick. My thing is that some clients(the ones that understand photography) like the FF sensor more. They want that extreme subject separation and all that. I started on Nikon, so Nikon is where I will go back to. And I definitely get the 4k/60. If I shot video I would feel the same. I'll keep my em1x for everything else besides portrait clients. Plus it shoots 4k and has computational qualities and extreme weather sealing.
Great video Brittney! Love how you're working with Nikon and also comparing to Sony.
Dope
Thank you!! I work with them all lol. At least that’s the goal! To be unbias lol although I own a Sony haha!
Great review. No BS and to the point by a cool person. Subscribed!
informative video on the Nikon ZF
woww beautiful color grading
Thank you so much for this.
No problem!
The Nikon Zf is the camera I wanted but it didn’t exist when I switched from Fuji to a7c. I have only a 35mm prime for it so the decision to sell my Sony to preorder the Zf is the easiest I ever made.
I was excited for the a7c2 and the a7cr, but they feel like cameras that were handicapped so that customers have an upgrade path to the a7r5. They are not cheap, but feel cheap compared to the “real” pro line.
The Nikon Zf in contrast feels like an end-game camera for non-Leica prices. It feels like a dream camera: premium and gorgeous.
It’s a camera that will make you ignore GAS for years because you already have exactly what you wish for instead of compromising on certain features that make you produce a pro and con list to help you decide.
Precisely why I preorded. Feels like it's going to be my last camera purchase in a long time
I feel like I would like to talk to you on this topic, since I am trying to make up my mind and you seem so certain. I could really use your input. For example, what is the handicap? The EVF resolution?
@@spanishmackerel It's about the overall feeling. If you buy an a7cr, you will keep dreaming about the a7r5 because of certain "handicaps" like the EVF and dual-card slots. The video capabilities are software limited although it has similar hardware just so that there's a reason for you to buy the "pro" camera. And let's face it, although it can certainly do pro work, the a7c line is not marketed as such. It's more like the ultimate, absolute best point and shoot camera. Yes, I think the a7cr is better than the Leica Q3.
If you get the Nikon Zf though, there's nothing quite like it, so if you love it (some don't), then there's nothing else out there for you. It's already the "pro" version in its class. There's also dual-card slots so you can do pro work with it worry free. It's packed with features and for the price, it's kind of crazy. Only downside is that they packed the Zf with the old 25mp sensor instead of the newer 46mp one. My guess is that will come with the Zf ii.
On the A7C, the ergo was super clunky, I was finding myself constantly going to P mode because I didn't want to deal with the Exposure triangle with the A7C poor control scheme.
On the Nikon Zf, it's not perfect and sometimes clunky as well, but it does inspire me to dial in my settings manually.
I do get jealous of the A7CR insane resolution though and Sony's AF is better than Nikon's, but for what it's worth, I took more pictures with one month of the Zf than in one year with the A7C already.
I do miss the A7C's compact and lightweight nature though, the Zf is much heavier and the size is closer to the a7r5 so it's all a matter of tradeoffs.
Hope that helps
@@city.hermit It does help, thanks. I think the points you mentioned may not apply to me, but there's only way to find out. Don't care about dual slots as I'm not a pro. Do care about size and weight. My old film cams and DSLRs all feel ridiculously large to me now, compared to the various Fuji APS-C cams I've been using for 10 years. I don't use AF. I need at least a minimally decent grip. I don't see how hard the triangle could be for me, because I shoot like this: manual focus vintage lens, A priority. The exp comp wheel then becomes the shutter speed, and that's all I have to do: manually focus, set the A on the lens and turn the wheel until the look and the histo look good. Then click. My attraction to the Df would be a 40-year familiarity with their film and digital cams, and their colors. My attraction to the CR would be small form factor and high res. Any further thoughts, based on my usecase and your experience?
I'd like the "5" for the EVF, but that's it. It seems big and heavy compared to the CR.
@@spanishmackerel The EVF although better than the A7C is the only thing that might be an issue for you then with manual lenses. I think the A7CR would be better then for size in your usecase if you can deal with that viewfinder. You should go try it out
Love it, just preordered a Hermes orange version, haha.
Okayyyyyy
have you try put the Nikon Zf on tripod and roll it non stop in 4k24 and 4k60 and how long will it overheat?
I haven’t! I only have the zf for a day!
@@BrittneyJanae do you know of they have dual native iso in Nlog?
Wish it has the Sony A7RV's 4 ways screen which is better for both photo and video, but I hope camera companies can design beyond just classic tactile and modern mode dial layout, there sure has forward looking yet intuitive and fun layout yet achieved and discovered yet! By the way, if I think I want to shoot manual lens for now, is ZF going to be fun for me with that layout or still A7RV better for me as it's has better practical usability and even tho I going to shoot video on Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder, I sometime want to shoot on bigger sensor camera but my favourite color is yellow hence Nikon and Panasonic menu yellow themes are my liking!
Honestly its a great travel cam. Especially, since with the look and feel also you can use it to get into places that don’t allow pro style cams.
Yesss! I do this with my fuji. It’s def a cheat code
I am surprised how good the B&W mode looks in the Zf. As a long time Nikon shooter with a nice collection of old manual focus Glass. I have to get this camera
Yea it still lets you control to an extent which is good!
What grip you are using in the Zf?
No grip
do you use cineprint? the colors look similar
I don’t. I used filmconvert.
if sony had made the a7c ii with the dedicated exposure dials and a better evf I think it could have been something special, especially with Sony already having plenty of beautiful compact lenses with aperture rings
How about the N-log dynamic range? Is it same as Sony or Canon?
Yessss!! It is. I didn’t have an issue with it with grading. Nikons colors has always been my fav. Sony shifts towards green, canon magenta and Nikon is perfectly in the middle. 14.5 stops of dynamic range. Iso up to 51,200
@@BrittneyJanae really 14.5 stop? Wow amazing. How about the base iso for N-log?
What filter did you use indoor on the camera?
I used the @polarpro ND filter 2-5 stops
@@BrittneyJanae Why do you use it in a studio? Is there a specific reason?
Hey can you tell me ibis 8 stop available for video part ? And it's work with few lens like who have vr lens or it's for both photo or video **
It’s 5 axis ibis so it allows you to stop down 8 stops slower to get non shaky footage which helps more for low light long exposure type of content.
@@BrittneyJanae thanks but how to open 8 stop ibis ? Becz it’s default 5 stop right
We need any vr lens for that ?
I am confused to active the 8 ibis do we need separate lenses or it will activate just like 5ibis
8 stops is for photo, it’s 5 for video however, it works quite well in video. It’s similar to Active stabilization in Sony but, not as good as Dynamic Active stabilization introduced in the Z -E1. I had the A7R V which had an improvement over FX30’s Active stabilization, paired with the 24-105 OSS lens it provided stable footage. Running the footage from that combo through Catalyst Browse, ended up with some gimbal like results, with even more crop to the footage. I ended up trading the A7R V for the Z8 as I loved all the extra video codecs in that camera and they seemed quite similar in stabilization.
@@waynerm002 so answer is 8 stop for just a photos for low light or long exposure type shoot right
A7cii rolling shutter discounts it for professional video use.
great video, hi from Ireland
I have the A7iii but I am really curious about the A7C line up. My biggest hesitation is the lack of the joystick for focus and maybe the viewfinder. I need to travel all the way to Austin when it releases to possibly try it hands on and see how I feel.
I shoot only video so the viewfinder isn’t that important to me. But if you do mostly video I def understand that
I might have bought this and been also disappointed by that sneaky 4k60 crop.
Good looking out for that. Thanks as always, Britt.
You're the dopest!
Yea you have to read the fine print for the 4k/60 crop
Great video, however, keep in mind that the Zf📸 has a higher of 64000 and not 51000💯
64,000 is for photo 51,000 is for video
Nice review!
As I'm doing stills mostly, the EVF does make a difference, and the Zf's is way better than the a7Cii one's! Peak focus with the fantastic manual Voigtlander lenses is another point pro Nikon. And #3, the Nikon's sensor makes it the perfect camera for available light photography, street photography at night. Actually, this might be the camera I had been waiting for in years. And it's pretty nice to look at as well. ;)
Brittney your work is unbelievable. What plug-in font text do you use .And can you recommend any text fonts ?
Thank you! Honestly I’m not a heavy text user but I love Gibson!! I love bold fun fonts! So Gibson paired with Helvetica or Didot which I love as well. Bebas Neue is good too
Firre videoo, appreciate the info
Whats different about Nikon is they have to put certain features in their cameras. They don't have a cinema line. So if you shoot Nikon, you have features Sony users want but wont get because of that fact.
And I LOVE THAT!! Even something as small as waveform really grabbed my attention! Lol
Just found you video!
Great review love the vibe, subbed.
Currently in the market for either of them , I am already in the Nikon system, but I also have a panasonic S5 II which I want to sell , I don't like it for some reason , great camera too for this price range , awesome video specs , but I just don't like using it , for whatever reason so I am looking at those two cameras.
I want a compact but powerful camera which those two are, and I wonder about AF perfomance of the ZF vs A7 CII , I know that Sony has the best AF , but I wonder by how much i better is it than the ZF or it's not better , and it's all just hype?
If you or anyone can give an answer that would help :)
The zf autococus was really good. I didn’t have my Sony with me to compare but they have very similar autofocus systems.
@@BrittneyJanae Thank you! , A Zf just popped at a store near by as a 2nd hand with 61 clicks !! 15% less than retail going to check it out tomorrow , and decide .
And autofocus perfomance compared with sony?.
Saludos.
Cool vid thanks! Subbed.
4k 60 crop 😔 it look great tho
Yea I hate cameras that have 4k/60 crop lol
Hi Nikon released a new firmware update for the Nikon ZF!!! They heard you about Slow Motion
Haha nice!!
👑👏🏻
Nikon has the better EV and the better shutter, Sony is more modern (AF) and has many more lenses (and cheaper ones) to choose from. But it is more a cultural thing about how to use the camera (interface modern or traditional, plastic or clicking wheels, rangefinder or SLR style look). Even when I am more convenient with the Nikon (I have to think less to get good photos) I have to appreciate 33MPixel raws and the magical save AF of the Sony (when correctly configured). Choose the lenses first then try both cameras at the dealer. the 24-120 from Nikon is better than the 24-105 from Sony. The 24-70 GMII is better than the Nikon handling wise as all GM mkII lenses are and they are optically superb. But if you want cheaper lenses like the Sigma 16-28 or the Tamron 70-180 G2 you have to look where they are available. Nikon has marvelous 1.8 lenses. Sony has a good 35mm 1.4 but the 1.8 is old fashioned the Sigma 2.0 one is much better. Cheap 1.4 lenses from Sigma are only available for Sony not for Nikon. Using flashes, I have much better experience with the Nikon flashes than with the Sonys. Each system is good but there are differences.
This is great! Thank you!
Nobody anywhere mentions how nikon lets you disable noise reduction in video. This is HUGE. Black and white in super high iso looks really cool on nikon cameras. Sony does not let you do this, instead their NR makes high iso video look all smeary.
So for me that day was the only time I got to use the camera so I couldn’t go all in like I would have loved to do. It was moreso me using it in a real life situation. But that’s really cool to know!
Dang,I was feeling so excited about the A7Cii but now I’m all confused…
Lol do you have an ecosystem you’re already in? Does that really matter to you?
@@BrittneyJanae no, this would be my first full frame mirrorless. I used to shoot Nikon DSLR’s back in the day, but because of lenses selection and just general performance I was going to go with Sony.
Honestly though, I’m really proud of Nikon for basically coming back from irrelevance and the brink of bankruptcy the last few years and becoming relevant again. I almost want to support them just for that reason. Sony has enough business these days. Still haven’t decided though.
I’m exactly on the same boat 😂
@@-AtomsPhere- You know Nikon forms part of the biggest keretsu in Japan, the mitsubishi group of companies. After all this talk online by non expert, Nikon had one year in the black, you know many multi international company gets into bankruptcy after only one year without being in profit!!! Which was also because they were reorganizing themselves completely.
Great video
If you Don't like 4K60 crop wait for the incoming Z6III it won't have that crop :)
I own the z 8!
Nikon colors look great. I only wish Nikon made a compact body and lenses. Having a grippless heavy body is an ergonomic disaster.
I feel that!
It seems you never use the viewfinder because you mainly goes for video. And for video you may have better choices than these two cameras. The retro style of the Nikon is made to suit the photographers but the flip screen isn't, this shows the problem of mixing to different crafts which need different tools. Same for the Sony, it want to play the range finder style of photography but the viewfinder is just not up to the task, and again the flipping screen is for video not photography. Both are wrong for photo and not dedicated for video. The video doesn't seems to satisfy you, the photo side do not please me, we are both expecting something else.
I am afraid this is the trend of camera we'll have until the manufacturers realize they produce a mix between a carp and a rabbit.....if they realize it a day and I am afraid not !
Lol I don’t agree at all with this
When you will have a bad back after decades of photography, you might be happy to not have to crawl. My z9 screen doesn't rotate more than 30-40% for top down shots, so I really like the versatility of full articulating screen even in photos. And I am with Brittney, the zcameras and i think a lot of other hybrids can fulfill a lot of those jobs. The average hybrid camera we have nowadays is much superior than 99% of video cameras we had 5-10 years ago and with my Nikon I can do both with a switch of a button.
I have to say that B&W mode is BS and a marketing gimmick if Nikon had created RAW B&W mode to extract more details of the sensor that would have been something but to add B&W jpg switch is such a low point regardless of what RUclips reviewers say, wait to see real-world user reviews. I understand reviewers have to find some new exciting features. Looking forward to testing the camera sometime in the near future.
From my knowledge it's not a black and white jpg switch at least for video You can shoot black and white in HLG and SDR. I don't know much about the photo side because I'm a filmmaker and that's what I was testing it for.
In photo which is the primary use of this camera, you still retain the raw and Fuji got all the praise in the world for its film emulation jpeg. So I don't feel anything bad about this. You just have to choose what you want.
4k 60crop is big disappointment for me.
Same! I said the same thing when I shot on the Sony a7cii! I hate it doesn’t matter the camera just not ideal!
@@BrittneyJanae one advantage with Sony a7cii is 33MP.
Canon r6ii only have 4k 60 FPS full frame** in a same budget
Does nikon have anything like catalyst ? To use gyro data and stabilize further?
@@rafiqbhanjifilm if it's not crop thats good
Please compare zf vs z6ii
I don’t have the z6ii but if @nikon sends it to me I can lol
Stabalisation is better on the Nikon!