American reacts to German Police teach these GROWN MEN a lesson
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I don't think the lesson is "don't take pictures of traffic accidents." The lesson is "respect the suffering and pain of other people."
Exactly. It´s called Piety.
even dead people have the right of dignity in germany :) sadly they dont let us die with dignity when we're too ill to live.
@@Foatizenknechtlonce you are dead there is supposed to be a ceremony, which resembles a fast food restaurant.
Most serious accidents cause secondary accidents due to traffic flow problems. Rubber necking only adds to these dangers. Not only is this disrespectful but is also dangerous, as such it should definitely be a fine and points on ones licence.
"Love thy neighbor as thyself" i.e don't do to your neighbor anything that you wouldn't like done to yourself or your loved ones.
And also, actively DO what you would like others to do...that includes actively respecting people (not just "not disrespecting" them)
I work at a german hospital, and we try to save peoples life after accidents. I totally understand this policeman.
Danke,daß Du für uns diesen schweren Job machst.Ein Krankenhaus in Hamburg hat mir gerade das Leben gerettet (4Wo)
Thank you for your service!
Yeah, and filming them takes life away....this is dictatorship stuff.....
🤗❤️🤗 wow i Hope you are good now!
Since beginning of 2021, taking pictures of a fatality of an accident is punishable with up to 2 years in prison.
Damn I didn't know that. Yes doing that is reprehensible but prison for a picture is crazy
Edit: yea alright, ya all had some decent arguments, please stop responding
its good teaches people some respect too many nowadays just take pictures of everything to post it on social medias for attention ...@@irgendeinname9256
@@irgendeinname9256 the Main Point of the law is To stop peopel driving real slow when there is a accident and be a problem for the other Cars.
@@irgendeinname9256 That is maximum. Depands what happens when you take the picture. Think aubout what could happen when you slow down to make a picture on an autobahn, this can cause adiitional accidents with dead people. So 2 years maximum ist not too much.
It's not about the privacy of the accident victims or their relatives; it's about spectators blocking the road and thereby obstructing rescue operations.
I am working for a tow company in germany. I have seen a lot of unpleasant situations. Dead bodies of adults and kids. Cars full of blood and even sprinkled brains inside a car.
This people do not understand what they are doing. It is unsensitive and dangerous for everybody working on that crash site. They do not pay attention on traffic anymore.
I was called to a crash on the highway. The moment i arrived there was a crash on the opposite site because of people like this. Car parts flew in my direction.
It is not enough what they pay. They should pay 1200€ and get the license suspended for 6 month. They risk lifes. There is no excuse for that.
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Absolut richtig!
That is something I only recently actually REALLY thought about after seeing a towing truck carrying a completely demolished car right in front of us. I was with my mother and both of us fell completely silent at first when we saw that wreck.
When we think about towing trucks, one might only ever think about you picking up wrongly parked cars or maybe cars that had broken down for some reason. Never, until now, have I really, REALLY REALIZED that you might also see... scenes.. that, in our minds, only medical first-responders, firefighters or police force would see.
It's just crazy and I have so much respect for you.
You are right, now people get two years in prison for this.
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human dignity does not end with death. Losing a loved one like that is hard enough; no one needs pictures of it on the internet
Thats the best comment i have ever read on YT.
Parabéns pelo comentário. Admiro pessoas inteligentes, tão necessitado estamos delas.
and yet, german media has no problems showing dead bodies all day.
Exactly.
It's unimaginable to find out on the Internet that a loved one has just died in an accident. Thousands share the horrible pictures and you read disrespectful, insensitive and stupid comments.
The german police literally does what every parent should have teached their child.
Well said!
That is exactly the point. I still remember when I was 5 or 6 and there was a big car crash near our house and I asked if we could go and see. I still remember (I'm 56) that they said "That would be ghoulish, you don't do that"
@@EL_Duderino68 You can still go and look from a distance how they remove the cars. That's fascinating for a boy. Not a T boy of course. lol
Taught*
Bemerkenswert:
es war sogar ein Polizeirat = Major, der wohl wegen der Groesse des Unfalls die Leitung hatte.
Mit Sowas muss sich ein hochrangiger Beamter abgeben, der weissgott Wichtigeres zu tun hat - nur wegen so eines kindischen und unsensiblen Idioten!
Anmerkung:
goldener Muetzenriemen -
mindestens Polizeirat.
Taking photos at accident scenes, gawking and obstructing rescue workers are restricted in Germany. This has nothing to do with documenting police work. This serves to protect the victims or those affected.
I understand, I was saying the two can overlap (the police are working on the scene of the accident)
Ryan's take on this at 3:27 with _freedom of expression_ and _freedom of the press_ collides directly with the victim and their relative's rights *not* to have their pictures taken, let alone as fatal casualty of an accident. basic rights and civil liberties don't exist in a vacuum, they often collide and this conflict limits their application.
@@embreis2257 In such cases, the basic rule follows: Your freedom ends where it encroaches on another person's. Also, most of the time you can document police conduct and/or the work on an incident site without taking pictures of mutilated bodies.
As our emergency response services are rather quick with putting up privacy screens, you'd be either in for not assisting in first aid measures because no emergency personnel is there (which is a violation) or going out of your way to circumvent those privacy measures (per the new law a criminal offence).
@@embreis2257private persons are no press, tehrefor have no rights as teh press has. and even official pressphotographers have decancy and shame and take/ print pictures who are ok to be seen
@@Flamebeard0815 "Your freedom ends where it encroaches on another person's." ... then no pictures from ANY person, without his consent, regardless of him being in a public space or not. How about that?
The reaction of this officer is going viral in Germany. He is amazing!
If you act like a childish person, you get handled like one.
exactly!
Your ignorance of basic moral laws (let alone legal aspects) and your lack of any sense of decency is impressive... or so as to adopt your diction: that is different!
There were also incidents where firemen sprayed water into the cars that are gazing and taking pictures of the accident.
Oh yes, and the policemen are also filming the cars (and drivers) to check who is taking photos of victims.
Gut so
Let the morons take pictures of the dead, is not freedom……it is sick, good job
Poorly these fireman where punished for doing this! -.-
Unfortunately the firemen got fined for that.
It’s the freedom of the victims and their relatives NOT to have the pictures posted at the internet.
And for the policemen it’s hard to deal with the idiots taking pictures while securing the accident site with some corpses on the ground.😢
Additionally, those people cause a whole lot of other dangers, like stopping or slowing down unnecessarily causing the traffic to jam even more and/or rear-ending the car in front of them because they were more focused on the accident than the road and/or causing the same further back. The footage was taken on the lane in the direction of travel where the accident happened, now imagine the same in the opposite direction and the problem gets more than twice as worse - traffic could flow normally, but doesn't because of those idiots.
@@RustyITNerd Tbf, traffic in the direction the accident was in would not flow normally. Near the site of an accident you always have to drive slow and be ready to brake because people (including emergency personnel) are walking around and there might still be debris on the road. Basically the same as near a construction site where the speed limit is usually reduced to 30 km/h. So you should drive past the accident at a safe speed and with heightened vigilance.
The lane in the other direction though should be able to flow normally unless the accident included someone slamming into the middle barrier.
@@BunjiKugashira42 exactly, it should, but it doesn't because those gawkers slow down for photos/videos (and in the fast lane which is the one closest to the divider), causing massive traffic jams and in some cases, additional accidents. And that is exactly why it is punishable.
Your own freedom ends where another's freedom begins.
To me this just makes sense.
Naturally@@PaulMenden5659
The first article of our „Grundgesetz“ states that the dignity of men is untouchable! And that reaches into death. That has nothing to do with freedom of expression or the press which is also valid in Germany. But human dignity is paramount above all! And using your mobile phone while driving is illegal anyway! Also, they are holding up traffic and thus endangering others.
A friend of mine is a firefighter in a big city in Germany. He told me from an accident on the Autobahn where people gathered at a nearby bridge to film and take pictures of the accident.
At one point the firefighters got their hose going and literally washed the scumbags off of that bridge.
Wonderful! Very good!
Right on!
😂🎉❤
Gab es dafür keine negativen Konzequenzen? Würde mir wünschen wenn es mehr von deinen Kollegen gibt, jedoch stoppen viele vor der deutschen Justiz. Im Endeffekt geht es um Leben.
@@MrCatSyndrom Die mit dem Wasser zu verteiben ist ja nicht das gleiche wie die von der Brücke zu blasten. Möglicherweise ist eher ersteres passiert?
About 30 years ago I thought I had to confront myself with an accident that happened when I was passing by with my car. I stopped, like so many others and geaked. And I arrived at the very moment when the mother of the dead victim saw her dead son. I will never in my life forget that awful scream of hers. No horror film scene could match that moment. Ever since I'm healed from geaking.
Stopping and staring during an accident is a criminal offense in Germany. especially when seriously injured or dead people are photographed
In think photographing (in the shown scenario) became a criminal offense in 2021, so wasn't at time of filming.
yes its illegal since 2021, if you get caught you get a fine and youre forced to delete the recorded material@@IMIDelorios
Starring ? so using your eyes to see what is happened is criminal offence ? Germany is fucked as it always was. So why you have eyes ? For what reason if not to see what happened ?
@@avitalsheva Dignity. Ever heard of? No? This is why you think germany is fucked up. We tend to care about such things.
Smh
@@avitalsheva if you are nit involved then its not your fucking business. And its a huge difference between just taking a look to stop, gawk and taking some damn pictures.
The _most_ important thing you'll have to understand to get Germany or Europe for that matter, is that our first amendment is "Human dignity is untouchable". Just that brings a lot of different behaviors and social constructs. It doesn't mean Europe is not free, but Europe doesn't (like Asia doesn't) label everything with freedom. Also freedom (should) have ethical borders. Just because we're free to do something doesn't make it right. I cringe every time Americans just film people for social media etc. (Most of) Europe has freedom of press, but your every day citizen is not press. Hope that helps a little bit to understand :)
It is not only an amendment (which would mean it's merely a "Zusatzartikel"), it is the first and most important article of our constitution.
@@SunshineRiot Exactly
Unfortunately the dignity of many people e. g. Leiharbeiter is violated systematically.
@Ryan Wass: In Europe you are Press, if you work for the press. You are not part of the press just by taking pictures and posting them on social media
Exactly.
Man when he started talking about freedom of expression(Wtf?) and freedom of press, I literally laughed out loud
Also, there is "Pietät" (piety, reverence) in Germany. Not taking photos of deceased people is called "piety" (Pietät) in Germany. It means "reverence", for the deceased and the bereaved. A lot of funeral parlors are named after this. Many Americans struggle with other moments they are not supposed to take pictures, film or live stream in Germany, like in the public swimming pool, because of the stark differences in the sense of reverence between Germany and the USA.
Exactly! Same as in The Netherlands! I could not comprehend what he said freedom of the press.
We are a very tolerant people. But you do NOT mess with animals, you do NOT mess with dead bodies and you do NOT mess with cops. We're all good on a bunch of other stuff. I know it's the same in Germany.
Even the press would not take pictures of the dead bodies. The wrecked car at most.
This cop is great! People have the right not to be exposed on the internet - even if they are dead.
My grandmother always said to me, dont do to others what you dont want to be done to yourself. This is imprinted in my mind so I cannot understand people who want to take pictures or videos of the misfortune (or worse) of other persons, because that is something I definetly dont want to be done to myself.
Answer: B/c not everyone had your great grandmother (or parents of this kind of respect of life) :)
The fine at the moment of this recording was not for the pictures as such, it was for holding the phone while operating a motorvehicle. Since then, legislation has changed and now it is indeed illegal to take pictures of victims of an accident / crime.
I was part of a team that had to tell parents/relatives that a person they loved and cared for would not come home anymore and experienced one or two times that information about an accident had reached family before we could inform and take care of them.
Hard job. I would not be able to do that. 👍👍👍
@@seifenraspel___1953 Me too! It's an extremely hard "job".
Oh yea, that is maybe an often not noticed detail. People should get informed about a passed relative in a suitable way, not while driving, operating heavy machines or working on a scaffolding etc. In Germany, a dead relative message is always delivered in person, one can't know for sure if the receiving person is already mentally unstable.
They can come home for a short while ... in a box!
@@majorlaff8682 Really funny -_-
This is how the german police reacts when they are fed up and f*ing angry. They teach you a lesson respectfully and without violence.
Ryan, as an Australian having spent some months driving around Deutschland in the past, (I'm a touring musician) I always found the Deutsch Polizei firmly pleasant, helpful and polite. I also saw people screw with them, which they quickly regretted. And rightly so !
Hi,
I'm pleased that the German police made such a good impression.
I can confirm this with one exception. And that even though I used to be a “revolutionary” in the past. The one exception was a veil search. This police officer was very unpleasant and really wanted to accuse me of taking drugs because I'm a long-haired guy... I think.
He should have picked up the AMG in front of me. He probably didn't dare.
best
@@boblife3647 so weird. I never heard about any guy being searched or targeted by police just because he had long hair. Actually today long haired men are really common. I know plenty, we never had problems with the police. Was that in the 21st century? Because really rarely a guy is a "revolutionary" just because he has long hair. Most often he just likes metal music, but this is not a crime, but a matter of taste.
Oh I'm sorry. I didn't express myself well:
"revolutionary" was supposed to be a reference to the revolutionary May 1st demonstration (in Berlin). During the 90s things were already getting hot. I didn't even have any problems with the police there.
The only not so nice encounter happened 20 years later. On Saturday morning in Kreuzberg, random drug checks were carried out on drivers. My wife and child were sitting in the back seat and the police probably didn't see them.
Apparently I look like a stoner...
I did all the stupid tests and then had to go to the nearest fire station - no joke - and pee on a strip. Then I was able to continue on to great-grandmother's 90th birthday.@@sandralison7584
Oh, I guess I didn't make myself clear.
"revolutionary" referred to the revolutionary May 1st demonstration (in Berlin). Things got hot in the 90s. However, I didn't have any particular problems with police officers.
The only not so nice encounter happened 20 years later. On Saturday morning in Kreuzberg, random drug checks were carried out on drivers. My wife and child were sitting in the back seat and the police probably didn't see them.
Apparently I look like a stoner...
I did all the stupid tests and then had to go to the nearest fire station - no joke - and pee on a strip. Then I was able to continue on to great-grandmother's 90th birthday.
best@@sandralison7584
btw. Great-grandmother and I share the same birthday. So it was my birthday too.
This impertinent police officer was very eager to frame me.
That's not just any policeman. As you can see from the gold band on his hat, he's in the higher service, meaning he's probably the chief of his police station
His high visibility vest has 'Polizei Einsatzleiter' text, so he must be the leader of the police unit.
@@lnemeth4334 That's not how it works in Germany. Einsatzleiter just means he's the commanding officer on scene, most of the time that isn't the unit commander. In this case he probably is though, given his rank
Your freedom ends where another person is harmed by your actions.
That is FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN RIGHT.
Jawoll
🙏🏻Your comment should be tagged 👍🏻!
True, but the dead person cannot be harmed. It's for the living.
@@ivanjelenic5627 there’s also laws to protect the dignity of the dead. Although maybe not everywhere
That is such bs. Everyone can claim to be harmed in an emotional way. That is the end of all freedom of speech. Therefore, that human right does not exist. Education, people!
The biggest problem on the Autobahn in Germany is that the emergency services cannot come to the scene of the accident because of onlookers. The fine of 128 euros is 10 times too little. Because every second earlier can save the victim's life
I think there are two major differences in this topic between the US and Germany (Europe).
In Germany, your freedom to express yourself, take photos, etc. ends where someone else's freedom begins.
Or to put it another way: The dead lorry driver can no longer give his permission for photos to be taken of him and presumably published. Ergo: It is forbidden.
In the USA, the dead lorry driver can no longer actively object to not having his photo published, so it can be done.
I'm only familiar with something like the true crime documentaries, where the uncensored photos of the vctim and perpetrators can be seen, from US TV. In Germany, both perpetrators and victims are usually highly anonymised.
Not 100% correct. It does not apply to alive people, if they/you are in public, at least in Germany. You do not have a right for your own photo if you are in a public place and alive.
@@martinlischke4520 Correct
@@SuperHawk0413half truth as allways but i dont blame you. you cant take fotos of a person when you right in their faces or the focus is another person even in public spaces. even if you let say take a foto of a statue and people are in front of it and you want to publish those fotos you have to blurr at least their faces.
@@SuperHawk0413it does apply to living people too, it’s a grey area currently and the law is more in favor of the people around you than you live streaming and blasting their likeness in the internet for monetary gain. The only clear part is demonstration and journalists have more leeway.
@@SuperHawk0413thats not correct, that you have no right of your picture is only valid if you are part of a large group or the surrounding. for example, if you are part aof a demonstration you're right, if you stand alone and it is visible you are the target to picture, its illegal. i someone wants to make a picture of the brandenburger tor and you walk through the area, its allowed
In 2005, my sisters husband died in a motorcycle accident. A picture was on the front page of our local newspaper of my brother in laws wrecked bike, torn clothes and blood on the road. My sister was horrified and I was disgusted. My nieces were young but what if they were a bit older and seen it? They would've been traumatized.
Only when I started to travel around the world I realized how great (most of) the German police officers are. As long as you are no criminal you probably will never see a policeman shouting at you or touching a weapon in Germany. I also made lovely experiences with cops teaching lessons, e.g. when parking my car on a wrong spot ("Well, I am sure you would never never do this again, right?"). The main characteristic of German police officers is de-escalation and staying extremely relaxed as long as possible.
Yep. Also, time and circumstance permitting, they are up for jokes. Back in my student days when I still was an avid CCG player, I was on my way to the local store, passing through a known drug hotspot in a train station. Being unkempt with long hair, I was stopped and asked 'Do you have any substances on you that may count as drugs and/or addictive substances?' They were baffeled when I, in a self-aware state (of the hundreds of euros I sunk in that every year) answered 'Why, yes...' and then proceeded to pull out the whole card collection... They then grinned and gave me an exaggerated 'Oh, bugger off, you know what we meant!'.
if you be polite and friendly to them, they are the same to you.
Imagine you see a photo on Facebook and it is your father, your wife, your child...
Policing in Germany is something totally different than in the States, beginning with: We train our cops longer than 16-Weeks. After 2,5 Years they start in the lowest ranks.
Same in the UK. It takes 3 years to qualify.
Police trinaing in the US usually begins with a 6 to 18 month academy training, depending whether a recruit choses the "Full stress" academy (6-7 days a week, starting at 6 in the mornin and hardly ever ending before 7 at night + tons of homework) a rigorous physical, mental and academic training. Other options are the "Extended Format" and the "Modular Format" which respectively take roughly one year to 18 months. These formats limit the training to 3-5 days a week + homework + infrequent additional training (like shooting range, nights, etc.).
After the academy the recruit will have to undergo the so called "Fiel Training" at their department. This training usually takes 9 to 12 months (depending on the department policies). he Fiel training is divided into three even phases.
In the first phase the recruit is basically just learning from his FTO (Field Training Officer). The recruit will mostly just watch the FTO, learn department püolicies and procedures, eventually file reports, etc.
In the second phase the recruit will begin to work as the partner of the FTO. The recruit will still be second in command, but they will get to work all aspects of police duties.
Finally in the third phase the recruit is the one in charge and the FTO takes a step back. The recruit will chose which calls to answer, where to patrol, when to conduct traffic stops, etc., etc...
Throughout all three phases of the Fiel Training, the FTO will file a detailed evaluation of the recruits' performance.
Only after the academy and the Field Training, the recruit will finally become a probationary Police Officer. The probational perid is usually one year in which the performance of the officer will not just be watched closely by their superiors but also evaluated on a daily bases.
And then - after 6-18 months of Academy Training + 9-12 months of Field Training and another probationary 12 months the recruit becomes a regulary employed Police Officer.
Therefore it takes at least a net 27 months to achieve this goal, if someone does the "Full Stress" academy, immediately gets into Field Training, etc... A more realistic time-frame is 30-36 months all together.
BTW: Only one percent (1%) of recruits initially admitted into the academy actually make into Police service.
Literally meaning that out of 100 recruits who passed all written exams, psychological and physical tests in order to get into an academy,, only 1 will eventually become a Police officer.
Now compare that ratio to the percentage of German Police "pupils" who attend the comfy "Polizeischule" (not an academy!).
@@berndk.9741 Now compare how much people that 1% kill, just because they got scared from a falling acorn, to the shots fired by the proper educated and prepared, and not broken in a "academy", german police pupils
@@berndk.9741 What state and what position are you describing? The Hawaii police academy takes 6 months from approx 06:30 to 15:15 each day for regular police officers. No federally mandated minimum training means it may vary quite a bit from state to state.
Sounds similar to what you posted, though, that after 6 months they are on the job as second in command. 26 weeks of training doesn't sound like a lot, especially when most of this time is spent doing firearm drills and not learning the law, de-escalation techniques, etc.
Our police should definitely focus a lot more on firearm training, especially after the initial 3 years of basic training.
I lived in the US. I am sure there are great people working there, the stress is unbelievable and there are many high risk situations. So, I think they should be paid more. Also have better training and therefore more self-esteem. From my experience with American police these are main issues.
The so called ‘quota’ is another problem. Cops are getting paid in a provision-based system where they have to give tickets in order to get paid better. It is officially illegal but practically still happening from what I heard.
The lack of self-esteem leads to ego driven decision-making. You cannot ask a cop a counter question trying to defend your case or explaining your situation without him thinking lesser of himself and trying to show his dominance to make up for it. Once you start asking questions…basically do anything but submissively obey, it goes downhill for you in no time.
I heard from an American soldier that the first years of many cops would be working in jail. If that is true (I don’t know…) the cops get conditioned to treating every person every person is a criminal (like it is in jail).
Another problem is all weapons that are out there in civilian’s hands. So every interaction is potentially life or death for a cop. Everybody knows that flight or fight mode is not a mode where your brain can think in a civilized manner. But the whole wheapons situation you cannot even start to talk about to Americans.
So, nobody is trying to bash American cops as people. Rather I would describe it as an ungrateful job, that is important, but underpaid, in an awful environment and the people who get paid to do it find themselves in very complex and life threatening situations (guns everywhere) everyday. Bad strategies, bad internal policies (e.g. ‚quota’, short training, bad strategies, private prisons that need enough inmates).
So, if you give me a secure job, while I am trying to feed my family, and the job requires me to solve situations I cannot solve, where it is unclear to me whether I am supposed to help a child, a dis-abled person or if I am about to get shut. But you give me a gun, a taser, and a badge in these situations……what is going to happen eventually?
I wouldn’t want to walk in the shoes of an American cop. But -if I could- I really would like to change their work environment, training and pay.
God bless!
By the way, the policeman is police director Stefan Pfeiffer (the rank corresponds to a lieutenant colonel), head of the Feucht traffic police station in Middle Franconia (Bavaria).
As head of department, he will usually only be on site for particularly serious operations.
@Krautrock007 He deserves all my respect. Great dignity!
Hut ab und Respekt vor Ihm. 👏👏👏👏
6:10 that excuse "just holding up my phone" couldn't work for the driver. Using or even holding your phone while driving is illegal, and possibly even the official reason why these people had to pay that fine. It would add up. The fine for using an electronic device while driving is €100 plus administrative charges (which may well be €28.50).
It’s also illegal in every US state
Ryan should know this
Another commenter wrote that this might have been from a time when gawking wasn't illegal. And it was the only reason they even got a fine at the time
@@keit99gawking has always been illegal. Taking pictures of people, alive, dead, healthy, or severely injured, would also always have violated privacy laws.
An especially stupid excuse on the autobahn btw.
If theres any place where you shouldn't have your phone in hand its on the autobahn.
To me this is very moving. Im happy there are cops like this guy. Its a great asset to our community having people like him around.
Personally, I never had any problems with the German police, they were always friendly and helpful and helped you. Such people deserve a lesson like this, otherwise they won`t understand their crime.
I am german citizen, Brittas boyfriend, using her Computer too. In my whole life only one time i saw an unfriendly policeman, when i drove with my car accidently into a closed road,
Really depends on where you go and what you look like. I get surrounded by a troup of wannabe space marines every other year or so bc of my looks (they expect me to be carrying drugs). Some of them were friendly (if still profiling me against my constitutional rights), a lot of them were not. I guess the good ones (the vast majority, surely) wouldn't approach me in the first place.
But that's a rather specific thing, admittedly. That being said, I'm glad I don't look Turkish, Arabic or similar. They must be affected by this a lot more.
@@brittakriep2938You know the german say "how you scream in the woods, it screams back". Means when you speak normal, with respect and decent with police officers, they speak the same way to you. Thats how most german police encounters go, in my contacts with police.
Once one officer signs me to stop at the roadside and didn't come to me for a few minutes. When i stepped out my car and approached him in friendly manor, he explained me, he had me wronged and was supposed to stop a similar coloured vehicle than minw and said a genuenly sorry. Mistakes happen and we part ways without any problems and he also opened me a spot to get back in traffic.
@@SebastianDPunkt : Absolutely correct. I am not Britta herself, but her boyfriend, using the Computer too. Outside of traffic context, Policeofficers policemen only two times wanted something from me. And when an officer comes to me , my first , words are ,Grüß Gott'.
Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it must be the duty of all state authority !
It is actually a huge issue and I am happy that we have these laws in Germany. Whenever an accident happens, there's a traffic jam also on the other side of the Autobahn because of people staring, filming and taking pictures. There were cases when paramedics couldn't get through to the injured (or dead) person because there was a tight ring of photographers around. I watched one interview with a woman whose daughter got killed in an accident and the picture of her dead daughter was sent to her on social media before she was even officially informed that her daughter had an accident. This mother filed a report against the two young women who took these pictures and immediately spread them on social media platforms. In court, the women said they just did what they always did and they didn't think about the consequences. Standing and staring and blocking those who are skilled to help is one thing, but now we all have cell phones and a camera in our hands almost all the time. And we have social media. So I really really appreciate this video. Thank you for sharing Ryan.
at 2:50 you see the cop's role written on the front of his vest .. "Einsatzleiter" smth like Head of Operation .. wearing a golden ribbon on his cap .. he's da end boss there 🤣
The bigger problem than posting shameful pictures is that these idiots starts to put on the breaks and often cause another accident or traffic jams with that
Hab ich dich nicht schon mal unter nem Pietsmiet Video gesehen?
@@soulreaper16000 :D
This
It's not only about taking pictures, it's mostly about picture taking people preventing the ambulances and firemen of getting through to the injured.
Kudos to the policeman. You can hear the barely contained emotions in his voice. May the unknown trucker rest in peace.
I really like the Way ppl come here to point out the logic behind the Limitation of personal Freedom ( ... that it ends where Freedom and/or Dignity of others would start...)
The first and unchangeable article of the German constitution (as well as Article 1 of the EU Charter of Fundamental rights) says "Human dignity is inviolable." To respect and protect it is the obligation of all state authority, and this does not end with the death of a person. Taking pictures of accident victims (except for some documentation purposes by the authorities), especially with the intent to publish them in any manner, violates their dignity and therefore the constitution according to German court judgments.
The Menschenwürde isn't even juristicaly defined. Therefore it's a rubber article in the Grundgesetz.
@@LorenzJahn I hereby kindly advise you to not talk about a topic you don't know anything about. The term "Würde" is sufficiently defined to be applied to a law. Not including a formal definition in the law itself allows for interpretations of the article. As mentioned before, Art 1 GG is unchangeable, so including a definition could create unsolvable issues in the future. With how it is now, the Bundesverfassungsgericht has to interpret the term, which has been done thoroughly. These interpretations are treated as de-facto laws, but can be changed by the same court in the future.
Bullshit. Just see how they ( government ) behaved if so called covid restriction started. Suddenly no human right for anybody . People were like a cattle a treated as such.
Laws are for control of people and not for their freedom
@@_shinga Well we don't honor what is written, e.g. 4.2 is demonstrably ignored (just ask a rasta) and that one doesn't even have the vagueness that other articles have (like 2.1 for example). So if we can just ignore it or interpret it tenfold (apparently) it doesn't appear to matter much if you can change it or not
@@LorenzJahn rubber only in the sense that it is expandable, not malleable. It is juristically defined (and sometimes redefined) by the judgments of the Constitutional Court on base of general ethic principles; it is also defined as generic concept comprising individual freedom, the right for a decent existence in self-determination and physical integrity, the right to be respected as person and so on.
Article 2 (Freedom rights), Article 3 (Equality), Article 4 (Freedom of religion) and so on are all based on Article 1 (Human Dignity).
What police officers had to see in accident victims. Can be traumatic. A former police officer once told me that he once touched and spoke to an unconscious woman. Suddenly the braincase came off. And in the past, protective walls had been set up for accident victims in the event of accidents. But people continued to take photos. There were also fines. So the police now increased the measures.
Stopping to gawk at an accident is causing delay to the rescuers.
Taking pictures of an accident is causing a bigger delay to the resuers.
Taking pictures of an accident can result in fatalities than otherwise could have survived.
Preventing rescuers from doing their job of course is not protected by any personal liberty to share information.
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Help -or move out the way 🙏🏼
In my 27 years on this planet and in this beautiful country, I never had a bad encounter with the police. Even if you are in a traffic stop or anything. They will always be professional and helpful. Ofc there are a few idiots out there, but far less than i encountered in the US. They just train so much longer and better, and our soceity has way less violence. (ofc only in comparsion... we have 80 mio people and ofc we have violence and crimes)
Your freedom stops exactly where mine begins - something that is not understood overseas
If your kid or mother is laying there, helpless ... you want some idiotes filming and uploading it on RUclips?
To be shown to every everyone ?
The accident where your loved one died in ... be available on Internet for the rest of your life?
@@birgitsandbichler8596the opposite. the freedom of the victim to privacy and the freedom of privacy for the family trump the gawkers in germany
and by overseas, you mean the USA?
@@trocarcat is usually implied.
Keeps the flow of traffic moving, keeps emergency workers safe and preserves the dignity of the victims. TOTALLY support this law.
The police officer confronting the people is awesome!
„BR“ means „Bayerischer Rundfunk“ = multiple public Bavarian Radio and TV stations. Public stations are non profit and regulated by public boards, not any government, are regarded as very reliable and for the most part non partisan.
Artikel 1 of Our constitution "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority."
Internationally that's not what they are doing though. They let themselves be ordered around by the US government. Look what's happening in Gaza.
My brothers first job as a probationary police officer in the UK was with the traffic police. His duties included travelling in ambulances with the seriously injured & in some cases listening to their dying breath. Subsequently he was obliged to knock on the doors of unsuspecting relatives to deliver the devastating news in person. Since that stage of his career he has worked with vice & homicide & as a desk sergeant. He is long retired from the police & at 70 is still working in the public service sector but to this day he will report any & all traffic violations without fear or favour. Power to him I say.
In Germany the most important law isn't "freedom", it is every single person's dignity which cannot be harmed. Which means that we are free to do whatever we want as long as it doesn't harm someone elses dignity. That's why it is punishable to take pictures of accidents and stuff like that because first and foremost we have to be treated with dignity and respect, even after death.
Our first law. Before everything else. The first paragraph of the first article.
Equality, religious freedom, press freedom, right of assembly, right of free movement, privacy of correspondence all come in the articles after that.
Inviolability of human dignity and the task of the state to protect it is our first law.
Right. The freedom of one person ends where the freedom (and dignity) of another begins.
Glad Germany has come so far with that in less than a hundred years🙏
And that is why Germany is crumbling. You recently had a woman violently raped by muslim immigrants. The woman who got violated sexually was given more jail time than the evil man who raped her because she called him a sick animal. Laura, please explain how this is morally right to us non Germans?
@@HappyBeezerStudios and your system is stupid and very flawed. Illegal Muslim immigrants got less prison time for raping a woman (taking every ounce of her human dignity) than the man who raped her. Why? Because she called him a sick animal. So a foreign criminal, and sexual deviant has more rights to dignity than the woman who's life he ruined is what you are telling us. All because she insulted the man who forced himself on her? I guess the rapist and his friends "right to assemble" also means "right to assemble to sexually assault."
I am from Germany and of course the policeman is right! It's not a movie or adventure there was an crucial accident were real people died. And it is not allowed to make pictures from that, that's a crucial misbehaviour. And what's more by being that curious, that Sensation seeking they are often causing trafficking jams, hindering rescue workers or causing a following accident. The policeman is very correct, well doing.
There is also freedom of the press in Germany and photos of the accident can also be taken as part of the press freedom, but there are a few rules!
The photographer has to register with the police beforehand!
He has to prove that he works for a news argument (proof: press card)
None of the victims of an accident must be seen and the number plates must also be made unrecognizable.
This serves everything to protect privacy and the piety of accident victims and their relatives.
Thanks, was just about to comment that. Pretty accurate!
I don't know US laws but I don't think that the freedom of press covers a civil bystander either.
as can be seen (or not) by the press filming that scene and blurring the people that got fines and the text on the cars
He got fined for "§ 323c (StgB) Failure to render assistance; Disability of persons providing assistance"
Yes, our Autobahns are labeled with numbers.
The odd ones goes from North to South, the even ones from West to East.
I didn't know this! Thanks a lot 🤗
and the odd numbers are (approximately) sorted from east to west: A3 is west of A5 (at least in the northern part, north of Frankfurt), A7 is East of A5, and A9 is east of A7.
The even numbered Autobahnen (going predominantly east-to-west) are numbered in ascending order from north to south: A4 is mostly south of A2, A6 is much further in the south, and A8 is even further south
also the main autobahns going all across Germany have a single digit number. Shorter autobahns that are of regional importance (connecting two major cities or regions) have a double digit number. and very short autobahns built only for local traffic are numbered with three digits. the number also depends on the region, for an example A 10 to A 19 are in eastern Germany, A 20 to A 29 are in northern and northeastern Germany, A 30 to A 39 are in Lower Saxony (northwestern Germany) and Thuringia, A 40 to A 49 are in the Rhine-Ruhr to Frankfurt Rhine-Main and so on,
almost similar how the zip code in germany works.
And the big Autobahn are labeled with 1 and 2 digit numbers and the smaller more regional ones are labeled with 3-digit numbers.
I read a long time ago that US interstate highway system was inspired by the Autobahn. We also have even numbers for east/west and odd for north/south.
There was another case a few years ago, where also at least 1 or 2 people died in a crash. People drove their trucks and cars slowly along the crash side and made Pictures, and the police officers had enough and gave the firefighter the order to pull out a Hose and opened it up on anyones side window if they saw them having a Phone in their Hands (they also got mails later to pay 128,50 Euro for taking Pictures). The biggest punishment got those driver who had their side window done and reacted to slow ^^
Taking photos of accidents is prohibited for two reasons
- Privacy
- These rubberneckers block the roads causing traffic jams or blocking the way for paramedics
or are the cause of more accidents due to and in the traffic jam
In Germany it can happen if you have an accident and you are lying in the ditch but you can clearly be seen from the road, 10 cars drive by and do nothing, another 10 cars drive by slowly and look, another 10 cars drive by and take photos out of the car, and the 31st car stops and helps you. He wasn't fined for taking the photo itself, but because he took photos with his smartphone while driving. In Germany it is forbidden to hold your smartphone while driving.
This is not even a normal Police Officer ... it is an high rank officer with a golden band on his hat .....
white stripe ordinary policeman
yellow stripe, inspector / officer
In Croatia, a police officer investigating traffic accidents (serious accidents with injuries or fatalities) is always an inspector
by US standards it would be a rank lieutenant or a captain
it is probably very similar in the German police
You right ... I have tight contacts to croatia ... thanks for the info !
If somebody dies in a accident in Germany ,- there have to be allways a prosecutor...
US ... OK !
In Canada .... I don't know @@tihomirrasperic
But this guys got shit for there sensationel behavior ... to try to film a death body ..
Now ,- it can even end up in jail !
Is your name from croatia ?
Drive careful my friend
In Germany is the band on the hat:
green (old) or blue = middle grade
silver = upper grade
golden = higher grade - in these case: Polizeidirektor (fourth highest rank in bavarian police)
Thanks for the info ! @@jenschristiansen4978
What is different in Germany is that they know what surveillance and the constant feeling of being exposed does to people. Because of their history with the Gestapo of the Nazis and the Stasi in former Eastern Germany.
You can compare it with what happens in small villages: People conform with the norms and people talk about who is not fitting in. That's on a very small scale, of course. But it's the same mechanism.
People who move around the world with the constant fear of being exposed do not speak up, do not feel free, judge what doesn't seem "normal"...
In Germany, they start at the roots. Privacy is so highly valued because people should be free in expressing themselves and minorities should be protected from stigmatisation.
It just illegal to operate your phone while driving. Dont spread that bs.
@5calambres No. Listen to what the police man says and search for "Schutz der Privatsphäre"
He wasn't a gawker because he was taking photographs. The word "gawker" means "to look". NOT to take photographs to put up on the internet, disturbing the dead person's family! And why does Ryan immediately talk about the "freedom of the press" this was a lorry driver!
To be fair, I don’t think Ryan was suggesting that these people’s behaviour was OK. Rather, that the taking and publishing of such photos may be allowed under “freedom of the press“ in America where as it is obviously not in Germany. To me he was just highlighting, and thinking through, another difference between the two countries.
"Gawking" is also illegal in Germany, if such an accident happens...
Always the Doppelmoral, the press is filming every angle with huge cameras and the people are commenting about the people being filmed filming.
@@chaotus which are anonymised! usually that doesn't happen if somebody puts such pictures/videos on IG, tiktok or X...
Das Benutzen des Aufnahmegerätes scheint in diesem Falle das Problem zu sein, weil es ein Telephon und kein Diktiergerät ist.
The US law has freedom at its core, while the German law has dignity at its core. Considering the history of both of these countries, either one makes sense. Just different ways of seeing the world.
Never thought the German police was so sensitive! Thumbs up.
They are actually very sensitive and compassionate, one of them even won a price for that. Google "Oury Jalloh".
don't underestimate fed up german police officers. ;) this officer in the clip was really fed up with the gawkers
Not sensative...racist..picks out foreigners only...They hate foreigners I know I have beenlivin g here for 17 years
sensitive = sensibel, empfindlich, einfühlsam
sensible = vernünftig, sinnvoll, gescheit
sympathetic = mitfühlend, verständnisvoll, wohlwollend
@@berlindude75OK, sensible and sensitive at the same time.
People simply don't realise how safe this country is, even though millions of motor vehicles drive through it every day. Precisely because tens of thousands of people like this police officer make sure every day that rules are observed that might be regarded as completely absurd or excessive elsewhere.
The problem is that staring and taking photos distracts people so much that they cause the next accidents. It happens very often here that there are also traffic jams and accidents on the opposite lane, which has nothing to do with the accident, because people are staring.
This. I always get so nervous driving past any accident site because I know half the people are not paying attention to their driving and gawk or even take pictures instead. I really hate these kinds of people, it's so dangerous. I don't even understand the appeal. Idk, maybe I have an easier time not trying to look because I know I'd puke or faint if I saw something horrible.
We have similar laws in Canada though no jail time. Also, we have strict privacy laws, so this cop is great.
That Police Officer is a high ranking officer
you dont see regular on the street
he is the chief of a big Autobahnpolicestation.
He is now Policedirector of a whole Area.
yup. Can be clearly identified from the golden banderole on his cap
And I've never seen or heard a German policeman who speaks English so well
@@magicmike6666 Come to Stuttgart ... there are al lot of them.
I am a retired police officer with 40 years of service from Berlin-Germany. That's exactly how I addressed gawkers after homicides. One has to ask oneself whether many people have not already crossed the threshold between humans and Neanderthals (but backwards). If someone thinks that he has the right to film or take photos of dead people as part of "entertainment" or "information", then for me he is just one thing, a case for the public prosecutor and the court. I haven't discussed things with people like that anymore. There is no excuse that isn't even stupider than the one previously heard.
To everyone who thinks it is their right to take these pictures, ask yourself how you would react if your own dead parents, friends or children were in the vehicle. Well, anyone can film that, right? To me you're just Neanderthals with a camera
Big applause for the officer Stefan and the other enforcers to apply this. Cellphones are not done! For safety while driving and privacy of relatives.
in the UK the police could charge anyone using a cell phone while driving. They get a £200 fine and Six points on their license.
This is directly related to Article one of the German Constitution.
Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.
Privacy and respect of others is a big thing in Germany!
Well, it's not allowed to stop on the Autobahn, it's not allowed to hinder Traffic or use the Phone while driving on any public Street in Germany. Beside this will give a Finte too those who try to take Pictures are risking Life! Their own, those of the People in the Cars around, those of the Persons helping/working where the Accident happend and those of the Persons involved that might have survived.
I understand the Human Being in general is curious, that's genetic. But to think before take Actions like this (and there is happening worse like don't let Firefighters to a Fire, beat up Paramedics, and so on) can't be asked to much!!! The Fine is ridiculous too low in my Sight!
You don‘t know what to think? It‘s a great thing to see this cop telling the truth! Dead peoples tragedies are nobodies business! Dignity does not end with death!
The problem we experience as truck drivers is that drivers usually hit the brakes to see what is going on. That causes traffic jams, but they don't care what happens behind them, and the people behind them have to hit the brakes again, which can cause another collision... and so on. I think those kinds of fines should be 10x higher.....and register for the next time so that they get a driving ban of one month to start with. and a phone in your hand while driving costs 420 euros... so 459.16 dollars
You are right about noting down the names and banning when it keeps happening.
I mean think about it, if you lose somebody in an accident, would you really want to get informed about this by seeing somebody posting pictures on social media? I'd rather be informed by cops and not by sombody posting a pic and saying lol that person is d*ad.. thats where freedom ends and insanity begins...
I'm from Luxembourg and we have very similar laws as in Germany. I knew that it's wrong (immoral) to take pictures of a fatal accident but I had no idea that it's illegal! To be completely honest, maybe I would be one of those guys who should feel ashamed for having taken a picture but at the same time, if this was my mother who was there, dead, I wouldn't want people to take pictures of her dead body...
For me it is the other way round.
I never stop because of an accident, if there is already help, never gawked and never took pictures.
But I would not mind if s.o. takes pics of my or anybodies dead bodies.
I think it would be more important that people are again more nice to each other while living. I miss that smiling and greating and caring.
Nowadays the imo wrong credo is "not your business!" the opposite if community feeling.
@@MiaMerkurdon't forget that there's another problem with taking pictures and gawking: it's actually really dangerous because it's distracting people from their driving. That's why we've always had campaigns against gawking even long before cameraphones. I'm old, I remember being a kid on car trips in the 80s and the traffic warning would come on on the radio and they'd warn people that there's an accident on A3 or wherever causing a traffic jam on both (!) directions of the Autobahn because of gawking and for people to please stop that and to be careful. And quite a number of times you'd hear of an accident caused by someone gawking a while later.
I drive a lot on the Autobahn and passing any accident site always makes me nervous because I just know half the people are gawking or fiddling with their phone and not paying attention to their driving.
All German Autobahns are the labeled with numbers. The big ones that go across the country go from 1 to 9. More regional Autobahns are numbered in tens (10s, 20s, etc.). And short Autobahns that just connect other bigger ones or that function as feeder roads are numbered in hundreds.
Usually even numbers go from west to east and odd numbers from north to south.
The longest German Autobahn is the A7 from Denmark in the north all the way down to Austria in the south.
There is such a thing as a line of shame, also known in Germany as Pietät (perhaps it has a different meaning in the USA). The drivers crossed that line when they took photos of the dead, and the police officer made that very clear to them
I think it´s only natural to want to know what happened, how it unfolded, it´s also interesting to see Police Firefighters and Ambulance at work, especially together, it´s relatively rare, thankfully to see it, so people feel like they want to/need to know more.
But that´s what Journalism is for.
It´s no good taking out your phone on the Autobahn slowing down, creating more Gridlock and potentially having more accidents happen just so people can satisfy that curiosity, i think only very few actually want to get a glimpse of a corpse...
This man handled this super professional and impactful.
1st law of German Basic Law (Grundgesetz): Human dignity is inviolable. That also goes for people who are victims in an accident. Also your lust for the sensational can block traffic or even first responders. That's why the punishment for gawkers has become harder as people looking for photos have become more insolent.
If human dignity is unavailable, why do you have so many abortions?
This policeman became famous exactly because he reacted like this! He has a high rank in the Bavarian police and his reaction was to visualise the driver, what he was misdoing.
It's absolutely possible for the press to take any pictures of disasters, fires, and accidents. The casualties won't be shown, not even injured people, because that would violate their privacy. We have many camera journalists driving up to accident or fire scenes filming the work of fire brigades, ambulances, and the police, showing officers, firemen and paramedics in full, but pretty sure will require their consent. When they pull injured or dead people from wrecks some firemen hold up big blankets to keep gawkers and even the press from watching or recording.
There is a very popular TV series called "Feuer und Flamme" (fire and flames) showing real firemen dealing with real fires and accidents. All that is possibility to record and even show on TV, but when it gets to victims there is a limit.
One thing should be noted: when you witness a crime/an incident/accident and you are NOT able to provide first aid (because of distance, danger or something) you ARE allowed to document it as video or picture BUT it can only be used for helping with investigation and has to be deleted afterwards.
Example: If you see a car losing control, you can film how they lost controll and what happens after, then you call police and ambulance, and then you try providing first aid (if possible), when police arrives you provide them with the video material and delete it from your phone/dashcam
Freedom of press is guanranteed, as a journalist you can get a press ID and then you are allowed to take pictures on accident sites for documentation etc, but getting the press ID includes following the official german press codex, which implies not to take pictures of victims, alive, wounded or dead, or to blurr them out before publishing anything if they happen to be visible somwhere in the background.
If you follow theese guidelines, police won´t bother you as a news reporter.
People taking pictures of accidents are idiots causing a lot of trouble and possibly an accident. People who take pictures of the victims are just disgusting. This cop is a goat.
Its simple in germany the 1st article in the german law is: "Die würde des Menschen ist unantastbar" translated it would be "the dignity of man shall not be touched" So filming someone invades their privacy, so does insulting someone. We have freedom of press and we do have freedom of speech, but that law is above that, so if you exercise it and insult someone or film someone, you get punished. And tbh it would be something americans could really use it would help with alot things in america (for example police brutality etc) people insulting police will trigger agression from them (if they are like low mentally)
dignity of man? not women? Do you mean HUMANS?
That is the problem with the missing of gendering.
@@MiaMerkur well in english the word "man" means human too, its not only the word for a male
@@MiaMerkur Wenn man, wie ich als alter, weißer CIS-Mann aka Boomer, sich in der Schule mit dem Feminismus-Rassismus-Gendeer-Wahnsinn nicht beschäftigen musste, konnte man die eingesparte Zeit dafür nutzen, andere Sprachen ... zum Beispiel English ... so zu lernen, dass man auch heute noch weiß, dass "man" in den anglophilen Ländern nicht nur den maskulin gelesenen Menschen, sondern gerade auch den Menschen an sich - gerade in Gesetzestexten - meint. Manchmal, nur manchmal sollte man sein Hirn auch außerhalb der Blase der FLINTA- oder QUEER- oder LGBTQIA ... Plusminusmalgeteilthochwurzel-Blase benutzen und nicht gleich dem Pawlowschen Reflex nachgeben und rumkeifen.
Ihr Post, MiaMerkur, bestätigt den Spurch Mario Barths : Ich gendere nicht. Ich habe einen Schulabschluss.
Sie und Ihre Mitstreiter:Innen im Geiste sind der Grund, weshalb die Ablehnung und auch das Genderverbot in Bayern existieren.
German here! I think one of the reasons why the cop acts like that is that in some parts of our beautiful country its more and more complicated to get help. I dont know why but sometimes people are reacting really weird and irresponsible. They want to take pictures of the accident and the victims and for this they are blocking the road, so that the ambulance could not arrive in time. Sometimes they attac the paramedics and the cops to get them out of the way. In big cities like Berlin, Cologne, Munich and Hamburg it happens often. I remember a TV-Spot about it. A group of men arrives at a car crash. The paramedics can´t work because the men are in their way. One of the guys takes pictures and sais "This is so crazy, I have to call my mum and tell her about it". He started a call and in the crashed car a phone starts ringing...
In Germany you are allowed to take pictures in general and the freedom of press is one of the most important rights in Germany. However, gawking is considered illegal because of several reasons. The most important one is the first article in the German constitution which states that the human dignity is inviolable. Taking pictures of a persons corps and using it for entertainment is a violation of this dignity. Additionally, it’s a huge risk if the drivers pay more attention to an accident than the traffic which endangers themselves, other drivers and the emergency responders. It also hinders traffic and the emergency services risking lives. Still the freedom of press is preserved through certified journalists being allowed to document the accident.
Besser kann man es nicht sagen 👍 Das spart mir meinen Kommentar.
Wenn Sie dabei sind, in Germany hatten Feuerwehr Leute auf der A3 bei Würzburg Gaffer ins Fahrzeug gespritzt mit einen Wasserschlauch ( wir hatten über 30 Grad,deswegen hatten vielen Autofahrer ihr Fenster offen).
Davon hatte ich noch nicht gehört. Problematisch, wegen Sachbeschädigung bei der Elektronik und auch einigermaßen gefährlich im Straßenverkehr UND manchmal braucht es diesen Grad an Effektivität, wenn es Menschen an Lernfähigkeit mangelt und sie es nicht über Empathie kapieren oder durch verbalen Input und somit wirklich außer "Selbsterfahrung" keine anderen Mittel mehr zur Verfügung stehen (bevor dann offizielle strafrechtliche Mittel greifen)
@@KxNOxUTA hallo, es war auch rein rechtlich strafbar, die Staatsanwaltschaft musste auch ermitteln, der Richter hat aber wegen geringfügigkeit es wieder eingestellt.
You can't take picture from the dead or the injured. Think about it. If you lay injured on the road, people staring at you or even taking pictures of you fightint for your life is the LAST thing you want.
Also, people slowing down so they can see better what is going on can be a serious accident risk.
Of course, this guy was apparently the driver and simply using a cellphone (or any electronic device) while driving is an offense of its own anyway.
Why is that the last thing you want? I, for one, would be very happy to have my final moments captured somewhere, and would be angry with the police for taking those people away
That is sensible road safety education. He could also have given him a heavy fine. But this way he makes him realize that people have died here. This is not a photo opportunity in Disney Land. These people don't think before they act. They may even endanger themselves and others if they allow themselves to be distracted. They need to learn respect. Thanks to the poliziste. By the way, I'm not sure that the policeman wasn't breaking some official rules himself for which he could be prosecuted. I assume he was just angry about this driver and his behavior. I would have done the same. 💖☯☮
Something that other countries, including the US, should learn from. This is about human dignity and not about whether the policemen are doing something wrong!
But it should be allowed in germany to film the police!
@@MiaMerkur I spoke explicitly about this situation. Otherwise it is allowed to take photos of the police.
Deutschland Grundgesetz Paragraph 1. " Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar" Human dignity is inviolable
This law is based on the 1st article of our german constitution: the human dignity is untouchable.
And if pictures of victims ard being taken (and in wost case posted online), the dignity of those victims is threatened.
My boyfriend works for the volunteer fire department in Germany. The rescue workers often have to struggle when they can‘t help people in the event of an accident. Getting someone dead out of a car isn't easy to deal with.
Unfortunately, privacy screens have to be put up to keep the gawkers away. They often hinder the rescue workers in their work. In my boyfriends squad, two firefighters are usually responsible for sending gawkers away. The police officer in the video is therefore celebrated as a kind of hero.
In Belgium you will pay 189 euro, not for taking the pictures, but for handling a phone while driving.
Netherlands: 420 euro !
3:20 I do not think he is fined for taking pictures but for hindering police and rescue operation. There is a law that forebids making photos of deads at accicents and alike since 2021 but would be subject to a court trial and not to a fine by a police officer. But maybe that comes on top?
Props to the cop for teaching dignity and sensitivity❣
I live almost 20 years now in Germany and i can tell that they are very polite and respectful always, he just gave him a life lesson.