Putin thinks he knows what brought down the Soviet Union and how it could have prevented. So where his vision deviates from the USSR, it is his solution that he thinks will create a stronger empire. Basically, he thinks he can do better and make an indestructible Soviet Empire.
Who woulda Thunk? For me, when Putin acted so defensibly (some say, aggressively) on the back and forth with the salvage of the submarine Kursk, I was struck with the non-cooperation that he displayed towards access to the wreck. That was to prove provendational in his distancing of Russia from Western outreach. So where we are today is merely an extension of this initial 'bite the hand that lends a hand' feeling that Putin regime gave its citizens about Russian long-term intentions.
If Ukraine is forced to give up land the war might be stalled but it won’t be over. If you allow Russia to keep any territory you encourage them to do this again and again!
a slightly reduced Ukraine could actually also be an advantage. Ukraine would be a more consolidated country with a clearer national identity and clearer orientation towards Western style democracy and integration into the European Union. It could become an economic powerhouse just like a reduced Germany became after 1945.
Im my personal observation, it is a mix of both, since Russian Empire and Soviet Union was similar in terms of exercising power over the smaller states around them, but different a bit in terms of Soviet Union going a lot harder on forceful methods to keep people in line
putins vision for the russian federation , or for the peoples ? I think it's only about km² of land and the value it represents. The peoples, and in particular the minorities, are just there to serve him to forfill his dream.
Given Putin's apparent lack of interest in economics, I would argue that he's relatively free of ideology and picks whatever system seems to work for him and his style of government.
@@juancsmix Yes, energy independent, food independent. Unemployment of less than four percent. Wages growing five percent above inflation, infrastructure building across the country. More bridges were in Russia during Putin's presidency, than the whole history of Russia.
The gist of the matter is neither here nor there. Basically it boils down to uphold the traditional way to govern Russia by a small elite (Tsarist Nobility, top drawer of the Party or the security and military apparatus). The pool from where the elite personal is recruited is changing over time, so is the official ideology, but the structure, the pyramid of power remains. A small powerful closed elite group with their own fractions and fights, the technocrats and bureaucrats and the great mass of expendables. The rest is ideology, MAGA the Russian way.
Well, no. Russian model is feudal, centralized power. Terror, coercion, manipulation are tools to maintain that power. Ideology is merely a political figleaf used by FSB to disguise/conceal manipulation.
The "Special Military Operation" was expected to draw very little opposition from the western countries, as happened in 2014. A few sanctions, some diplomatic outrage but very little opposition. 2021 paper showed where his thinking originated and why he felt it advantageous to carry out the "everything is going to plan" statements in 2022.
The delusion (for want of better idea) that he's powerful enough to stymie the other powers enough to have an open gate to getting a more influencial status in the world order and with the pervasive use of propaganda, reduce the influence of, for example, NATO, Europe, and the UN Geneva Convention. He sees his presidency as a tool to eroded the world order.
He sees his role as a leader who can dissolve the "old world order" and the other organizations like EU, NATO, UN so the Geneva Convention is gone. His military forces obviously don't know or want to abide by the convention. He has the vision of his country being at or near the top of international power. My previous response disappeared. 🙄
IMHO,Tsar Putin represents a ideology of ruzzian neo-imperialism & wants to expand the current ruzzian empire (it is a "federation" in only but name). Tsar Putin misses the superpower status the USSR had but he does not miss the communism (he needs capitalism to steal and enrich himself & his kleptocrats). The USSR was just a continuation of the ruzzian Empire by revolutionaries tearing it down then recreating it under communism, they are indeed opposites as you state Pyotr, or but the intent was the same , domination + expansion. The mistake at the end of the cold war was everyone thought, "Great, we defeated communism, problem solved!" [WRONG]. Communism was just an temporary iteration of the real problem...ruzzian Imperialism. That was the mistake made in 1989-1991 period of "the peace dividend". Let's keep in mind that ruzzia has an economy the SAME SIZE as Florida (the 4th largest US state by GDP). Even if you put the USSR back together it would only have an economy the same size as Texas (second largest US state by GDP). For those vatniks that want to mention "but price power parity", ruzzia cannot build a gazzillion "cheaper" Su-35's and T-90 tanks, barely 100 jets and 200 tanks a year each. So what is it going to spend the rest of its worthless rubles on ? 🤡
Ultimately the complete removal of Ukranian identity reflected by the 2021 statements and the belief that Ukranian people would welcome the military forces with flowers and hugs, definitely not bullets. That's why he called it the "Special Military Operation". He also expected the "western powers" to do nothing but use expressions of outrage. Those western powers did essentially nothing much in 2014. He expected the same reaction.
Putin wants Russia to be treated by the significant other (the US) as equal. Give us Europe an we will keep peace in Europe Yeltsin to Clinton. A multipolar wold where Russia is a one of the poles. To be recognise as a "fully sovereign country" i.e one of few members of the exclusive club - the recognition expressed by recognising Russian sphere of interest i.e giving Russia its share of the countries with the limited sovereignty (limited by the fully sovereign countries) i.e. a new Yalta. The original intention was, I think, to create EUAU a Russian empire under another name, not a unitary state as the old empire, not a federation like the USSR but a filandisation of the post Soviet space. Putin said in Munchen, that post Soviet space is Russia sphere of interests. After to come to Brussel and to say: We have raw material, you have technologies and people, let us put it together, get rid of the UK and their special relation, and kick the US out Europe. Next step dominate it. He who dominate this landmass dominates all wold. Medvydev said that Russians are building a space from Vladivostok to Lisabon. Recognition. Magnicky law made Russian elites furious, They kicked us out from the table. Yes, we killed the man, it is not relevant, they kicked us out. The last Valdai speech of. Putin - "They showed us where is our place. A new order in Europe, which gives Russia it due, based on the UN, ie. veto. The importance of 1815 in Russian discourse Identity question, old generation of Russians identifies with the USSR. The olde you are, tho more you support the war. "We all lived so peacefully"
Very interesting lady! Personally, I just feel Putin in his old age, and probably given some "alone thinking time" during covid, suddenly developed an urge to justify his rule. Some purpose to it all, besides enjoying power and money. And so yes, I think the idea of inventing purpose through ideology, is a good way to look at Putin's reign. That infamus piece Putin wrote on Ukraine was Putin producing ideology.
You can start your episodes by saying ''its Gambit'in time!'' and then you gambit all over the screen (or you can just pick the funniest catchfrase comment youve seen in the previous vid)
Heard that Ruski stole Moscow from the FinneUigor( not correct written:) . My point is that the only culture Ruskis has to show for are they had servitude (slavery)year longer than Europe and the nobility was people but workers/slaves could be sold, families split on a second etc. And this is evident today as only the elite cities has infrastructure. The rich do nothing for the population with the trillions earned by oil and gas. While mortage % is 24 and the economy collapsing the West has THE OPERTUNITY TO END THE EMPIRE BOMBING EUROPE FLAT AND POSSIBLE BECOME POWEFUL AGAIN. IF EUROPE/ THE WESTERN OLIGARCHS GLOBALIST TRILLIONARES DONT STOP PUTIN NOW, THEY WANT TO DESTROY THE WEST.
Dear Pyotr, I hope you're familiar with the works of Ekaterina Schulmann. She's a politologist and has a great expertise in Russian political system from a scientific point of view. Would be an amazing guest to talk to.
Specific way of "reinstating Russia as great power" may be not written in DNA, however, definition of "great power" in Russian politics was pretty clear from the start: international rules are for smaller states, not for "great powers". I.e. "reinstating Russia as great power" was always about getting into a position, when Russian leaders would be subjects of politics and multiple smaller states - objects. Such way of thinking would necessarily lead to growing violence and can only be kept in check with force. It could be imagined him not attacking Ukraine if Ukraine got into NATO before Crimea was annexed. I could be imagined him not to do full scale invasion if he paid higher price for Crimea. He could be less confident in his ability to get away with things if he paid price for the way Wagner acted in Africa and Russian forces acted in Syria. So, this part, of course, is "conditional". It is conditional on response. Mindset was pretty much "we have rights to tell others what to do and those others should obey" from the start. And it was called "Russia as great power".
The problem is we have civilians telling people what is going on, they know nothing because they studied what writers that know nothing wrote. Then they write a book of BS. Well I was a Military Police when the wall fell in Berlin and I was in Germany. I was trained about Russia because I was in training before the wall fell. Kiev was the original Socialist Republic. It joined with Russia and in 1918 declared it is part of Russia. Russia and Ukraine were husband and wife. They founded the USSR. Kyiv is known as the "Mother of Russian Cities". Putin is old (reliving past) and he wants things to go back to the days of old. He needs Ukraine to breathe life into the USSR. He was KGB in the USSR and life was good. so he wants Russia's bride Ukraine to come back. His connections to North Korea and Iran being strong is because he needs to show they are a global presence. Not going to G7.
It has never been about security. Putin knows very well that nobody is planning to attack them He is not afraid of NATO, he is afraid to ATTACK the NATO countries. Putin wants Yalta-2 - just like after WW2. He wants to divide the world into spheres of influence, where he sees all former Soviet republics and Warsaw pact states within it. He basically wants a part of the world where he and his gang can rule and ravage everyone in it, like a mafia territory
I think you're parsing things way too fine when you say that the Soviet Union was nothing like the Russian Empire. I think all that Putin is looking at is raw land mass--that's it. Here's how I see Putin: He is the typical aging man who decides to get the band back together--nevermind that the band has gotten old fat and bald. 🎼 🎼 🎼 🎼
If you voted for Trump and support Ukraine -- I'm so sorry. _“Putin’s give-me-my-shit-back war”_ ¹ - Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth _____________________________________ ¹ Russia's expansion of their land-grab war of aggression re-invasion inof Ukraine in 2022]
@@Devin_Laugherin if someone actually watched the video they’d know how different they are and the ideological motivations of them were completely different
@@theglobalgambit they were sure factually different. And nonetheless in a larger sense they both were "empires". With parasitic minority center sucking all benefits of somewhat forced labor of "surroundings".
Too much talk about totalitarian and terrorist russia … what matters is to defeat economicly and militarly this terrorist state - all the rest is irrelevant
Just FSB talking point. Russia wanted to steal Ukrainian natural resources and prevent a competitor from selling to the EU. A free market western oriented Ukraine might give Russian serfs ideas above their station. Pavlov wanted to train dogs, not teach them.
@@stephenhill545 Flattery is different from being lectured on human right democracy or some bull s..t Instead concentrate on their own domestic issues first and do not lecture others Do you now see the differences.
Puntine restare the economic might of RUSSIA from a catastrophic Eltsine period. Putin,ne did not accept the lie of USA not to expand Nato to the East as Kennedy did not accept the soviet missiles in Cuba. Russia is an authoritarian democracy whose leader has 80% popularity The Russia economy is the 4th world economy, Its industrialization is 36%of GNP The growth this year is 3,7%, It is not a war economy 30% of the growthis links to the military and 6,5 of the GNP belongs to the military USA under Vietnam USA spent 8%
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Putin thinks he knows what brought down the Soviet Union and how it could have prevented. So where his vision deviates from the USSR, it is his solution that he thinks will create a stronger empire. Basically, he thinks he can do better and make an indestructible Soviet Empire.
Russian imperialism remained at the heart of the Soviet Union.
Soviet Union IS Russian empire
Who woulda Thunk?
For me, when Putin acted so defensibly (some say, aggressively) on the back and forth with the salvage of the submarine Kursk, I was struck with the non-cooperation that he displayed towards access to the wreck. That was to prove provendational in his distancing of Russia from Western outreach. So where we are today is merely an extension of this initial 'bite the hand that lends a hand' feeling that Putin regime gave its citizens about Russian long-term intentions.
If Ukraine is forced to give up land the war might be stalled but it won’t be over. If you allow Russia to keep any territory you encourage them to do this again and again!
Also emboldens china and north korea to go for it 🤷♂️
a slightly reduced Ukraine could actually also be an advantage. Ukraine would be a more consolidated country with a clearer national identity and clearer orientation towards Western style democracy and integration into the European Union. It could become an economic powerhouse just like a reduced Germany became after 1945.
Im my personal observation, it is a mix of both, since Russian Empire and Soviet Union was similar in terms of exercising power over the smaller states around them, but different a bit in terms of Soviet Union going a lot harder on forceful methods to keep people in line
putins vision for the russian federation , or for the peoples ?
I think it's only about km² of land and the value it represents.
The peoples, and in particular the minorities, are just there to serve him to forfill his dream.
Given Putin's apparent lack of interest in economics, I would argue that he's relatively free of ideology and picks whatever system seems to work for him and his style of government.
Putin has great knowledge on economics .
He has a degree in economics, and runs a successful economy
@@kabzaifysuccessful?
@@juancsmix Yes, energy independent, food independent. Unemployment of less than four percent. Wages growing five percent above inflation, infrastructure building across the country. More bridges were in Russia during Putin's presidency, than the whole history of Russia.
@@kabzaify dude... Russia economy now is not successful. No matter how you spin it.
How's this for a catch phrase: Pyotr the Great is back for another gambit! 😁
Sounds russo-imperialistic.
The gist of the matter is neither here nor there.
Basically it boils down to uphold the traditional way to govern Russia by a small elite (Tsarist Nobility, top drawer of the Party or the security and military apparatus).
The pool from where the elite personal is recruited is changing over time, so is the official ideology, but the structure, the pyramid of power remains.
A small powerful closed elite group with their own fractions and fights, the technocrats and bureaucrats and the great mass of expendables.
The rest is ideology, MAGA the Russian way.
Well, no. Russian model is feudal, centralized power. Terror, coercion, manipulation are tools to maintain that power. Ideology is merely a political figleaf used by FSB to disguise/conceal manipulation.
The "Special Military Operation" was expected to draw very little opposition from the western countries, as happened in 2014. A few sanctions, some diplomatic outrage but very little opposition.
2021 paper showed where his thinking originated and why he felt it advantageous to carry out the "everything is going to plan" statements in 2022.
@@ninemoonplanet so what is your point?
The delusion (for want of better idea) that he's powerful enough to stymie the other powers enough to have an open gate to getting a more influencial status in the world order and with the pervasive use of propaganda, reduce the influence of, for example, NATO, Europe, and the UN Geneva Convention.
He sees his presidency as a tool to eroded the world order.
He sees his role as a leader who can dissolve the "old world order" and the other organizations like EU, NATO, UN so the Geneva Convention is gone. His military forces obviously don't know or want to abide by the convention.
He has the vision of his country being at or near the top of international power.
My previous response disappeared. 🙄
Title suggestion: Unmasking Maskirovka.
What’d you reckon? What does Putin want to achieve ? Drop some views in the comments.
IMHO,Tsar Putin represents a ideology of ruzzian neo-imperialism & wants to expand the current ruzzian empire (it is a "federation" in only but name). Tsar Putin misses the superpower status the USSR had but he does not miss the communism (he needs capitalism to steal and enrich himself & his kleptocrats). The USSR was just a continuation of the ruzzian Empire by revolutionaries tearing it down then recreating it under communism, they are indeed opposites as you state Pyotr, or but the intent was the same , domination + expansion. The mistake at the end of the cold war was everyone thought, "Great, we defeated communism, problem solved!" [WRONG]. Communism was just an temporary iteration of the real problem...ruzzian Imperialism. That was the mistake made in 1989-1991 period of "the peace dividend". Let's keep in mind that ruzzia has an economy the SAME SIZE as Florida (the 4th largest US state by GDP). Even if you put the USSR back together it would only have an economy the same size as Texas (second largest US state by GDP). For those vatniks that want to mention "but price power parity", ruzzia cannot build a gazzillion "cheaper" Su-35's and T-90 tanks, barely 100 jets and 200 tanks a year each. So what is it going to spend the rest of its worthless rubles on ? 🤡
Ultimately the complete removal of Ukranian identity reflected by the 2021 statements and the belief that Ukranian people would welcome the military forces with flowers and hugs, definitely not bullets. That's why he called it the "Special Military Operation".
He also expected the "western powers" to do nothing but use expressions of outrage.
Those western powers did essentially nothing much in 2014. He expected the same reaction.
He wants to destroy the US empire, and slowly Russia is succeeding. Is had to see that when you are westerner.
Putin wants Russia to be treated by the significant other (the US) as equal. Give us Europe an we will keep peace in Europe Yeltsin to Clinton. A multipolar wold where Russia is a one of the poles.
To be recognise as a "fully sovereign country" i.e one of few members of the exclusive club - the recognition expressed by recognising Russian sphere of interest i.e giving Russia its share of the countries with the limited sovereignty (limited by the fully sovereign countries) i.e. a new Yalta.
The original intention was, I think, to create EUAU a Russian empire under another name, not a unitary state as the old empire, not a federation like the USSR but a filandisation of the post Soviet space. Putin said in Munchen, that post Soviet space is Russia sphere of interests.
After to come to Brussel and to say: We have raw material, you have technologies and people, let us put it together, get rid of the UK and their special relation, and kick the US out Europe.
Next step dominate it. He who dominate this landmass dominates all wold.
Medvydev said that Russians are building a space from Vladivostok to Lisabon.
Recognition. Magnicky law made Russian elites furious, They kicked us out from the table. Yes, we killed the man, it is not relevant, they kicked us out.
The last Valdai speech of. Putin - "They showed us where is our place.
A new order in Europe, which gives Russia it due, based on the UN, ie. veto. The importance of 1815 in Russian discourse
Identity question, old generation of Russians identifies with the USSR. The olde you are, tho more you support the war. "We all lived so peacefully"
To destroy Ukranian identity. Since Ukraine's existence means that Kyivan Rus wasn't Russian.
Very interesting lady! Personally, I just feel Putin in his old age, and probably given some "alone thinking time" during covid, suddenly developed an urge to justify his rule. Some purpose to it all, besides enjoying power and money. And so yes, I think the idea of inventing purpose through ideology, is a good way to look at Putin's reign. That infamus piece Putin wrote on Ukraine was Putin producing ideology.
"Hammer the Gambit!"..
Great conversation
You can name it what you want, cloak it in thesaurus alternatives, the bottom is, It is about control ( manipulation ) and influence.
You can start your episodes by saying ''its Gambit'in time!'' and then you gambit all over the screen
(or you can just pick the funniest catchfrase comment youve seen in the previous vid)
Heard that Ruski stole Moscow from the FinneUigor( not correct written:) . My point is that the only culture Ruskis has to show for are they had servitude (slavery)year longer than Europe and the nobility was people but workers/slaves could be sold, families split on a second etc. And this is evident today as only the elite cities has infrastructure. The rich do nothing for the population with the trillions earned by oil and gas. While mortage % is 24 and the economy collapsing the West has THE OPERTUNITY TO END THE EMPIRE BOMBING EUROPE FLAT AND POSSIBLE BECOME POWEFUL AGAIN. IF EUROPE/ THE WESTERN OLIGARCHS GLOBALIST TRILLIONARES DONT STOP PUTIN NOW, THEY WANT TO DESTROY THE WEST.
Dear Pyotr, I hope you're familiar with the works of Ekaterina Schulmann. She's a politologist and has a great expertise in Russian political system from a scientific point of view. Would be an amazing guest to talk to.
Specific way of "reinstating Russia as great power" may be not written in DNA, however, definition of "great power" in Russian politics was pretty clear from the start: international rules are for smaller states, not for "great powers". I.e. "reinstating Russia as great power" was always about getting into a position, when Russian leaders would be subjects of politics and multiple smaller states - objects. Such way of thinking would necessarily lead to growing violence and can only be kept in check with force. It could be imagined him not attacking Ukraine if Ukraine got into NATO before Crimea was annexed. I could be imagined him not to do full scale invasion if he paid higher price for Crimea. He could be less confident in his ability to get away with things if he paid price for the way Wagner acted in Africa and Russian forces acted in Syria. So, this part, of course, is "conditional". It is conditional on response. Mindset was pretty much "we have rights to tell others what to do and those others should obey" from the start. And it was called "Russia as great power".
The problem is we have civilians telling people what is going on, they know nothing because they studied what writers that know nothing wrote. Then they write a book of BS. Well I was a Military Police when the wall fell in Berlin and I was in Germany. I was trained about Russia because I was in training before the wall fell.
Kiev was the original Socialist Republic. It joined with Russia and in 1918 declared it is part of Russia. Russia and Ukraine were husband and wife. They founded the USSR. Kyiv is known as the "Mother of Russian Cities".
Putin is old (reliving past) and he wants things to go back to the days of old. He needs Ukraine to breathe life into the USSR. He was KGB in the USSR and life was good. so he wants Russia's bride Ukraine to come back. His connections to North Korea and Iran being strong is because he needs to show they are a global presence. Not going to G7.
Putin has always wished to rebuild the 'glacis' - the first line of defence for the USSR - meaning the area to the west of Russia.
It has never been about security. Putin knows very well that nobody is planning to attack them He is not afraid of NATO, he is afraid to ATTACK the NATO countries.
Putin wants Yalta-2 - just like after WW2. He wants to divide the world into spheres of influence, where he sees all former Soviet republics and Warsaw pact states within it. He basically wants a part of the world where he and his gang can rule and ravage everyone in it, like a mafia territory
I think you're parsing things way too fine when you say that the Soviet Union was nothing like the Russian Empire. I think all that Putin is looking at is raw land mass--that's it.
Here's how I see Putin: He is the typical aging man who decides to get the band back together--nevermind that the band has gotten old fat and bald.
🎼 🎼 🎼 🎼
Putin .is really an amateur,. the fool is a bitter.old man
Yes
Why not both?
0:51 why is afghanistan included in the USSR here?
They annexed it. God whispered in Russians' ears...only they heard.
Seems like the least plausible reason. I'm surprise so many talk about this war with that context in mind.
Hey man you really look like George Michael maybe you should try with something like " wake me up before you go go 🎵"
She didn't say anything about Russia that doesn't apply moreso to EU (apart from using individuals names rather than faceless bureaucracy)
Yes, and during covid lockdown Madonna was stuck at home and suffering just like the rest of us.
Trump is included as a 'strong man'.
Probably not, but sure why not, it might be a good idea
If you voted for Trump and support Ukraine -- I'm so sorry.
_“Putin’s give-me-my-shit-back war”_ ¹
- Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth
_____________________________________
¹ Russia's expansion of their land-grab war of aggression re-invasion inof Ukraine in 2022]
All of 3 confused people are real sad.
Since soviet "union" was another russian empire it doesn't really makes a difference.
@@Devin_Laugherin if someone actually watched the video they’d know how different they are and the ideological motivations of them were completely different
@@theglobalgambit they were sure factually different. And nonetheless in a larger sense they both were "empires". With parasitic minority center sucking all benefits of somewhat forced labor of "surroundings".
@@theglobalgambitah yes, Stalin wanted a world war in his lifetime while putin wants just Europe.
Neither.
I think it is sad so many here have a chance to go to fight against Russia. But choose to moan safe at home on their phones.
Too much talk about totalitarian and terrorist russia … what matters is to defeat economicly and militarly this terrorist state - all the rest is irrelevant
Short Answer is NO What Russia wants is mutual respect which is what BRICS Offer Not Zero Sum western mentality
Just FSB talking point. Russia wanted to steal Ukrainian natural resources and prevent a competitor from selling to the EU. A free market western oriented Ukraine might give Russian serfs ideas above their station. Pavlov wanted to train dogs, not teach them.
Grown ups don't need flattery.
@@stephenhill545 Flattery is different from being lectured on human right democracy or some bull s..t Instead concentrate on their own domestic issues first and do not lecture others Do you now see the differences.
Puntine restare the economic might of RUSSIA from a catastrophic Eltsine period. Putin,ne did not accept the lie of USA not to expand Nato to the East as Kennedy did not accept the soviet missiles in Cuba. Russia is an authoritarian democracy whose leader has 80% popularity
The Russia economy is the 4th world economy, Its industrialization is 36%of GNP The growth this year is 3,7%, It is not a war economy 30% of the growthis links to the military and 6,5 of the GNP belongs to the military USA under Vietnam USA spent 8%
this discussion shows how little the west understands Putin and the Kremlin
@@Robocop-qe7le aww is it sharing some uncomfortable truths you don’t like
@ not really; the fact that this war is already 3 years demonstrates what I said
Havent heard yet Peter.?
Actually Putin is planning to conquer the UK😂😂
Peter, what are you ?
Good old Afghan stuff😂😂😂
did he say like that? any source?
Oh look, someone trying to be funny but failing.
@@tharunb4124 of course not.
I ridicule the British warmongers that spin fairytales that are leading to WW3
Make Russia Great Again 🎉
She sounds French. Maybe she should study France and let people know what it has become under Macron
Are studying dumb people?
❤❤❤💪🏻🇷🇺💪🏻🇷🇺
Is it not cold for you when you have to go and relieve yourself outside your house in the shed with a whole in the ground?
she should learn English pronunciation
She speaks perfectly. What’s the problem?
Obviously both 🤫🤫🤫
Шейтель присосался к Украине как клоп.
Шейтель присосался к Украине как клоп.
Шейтель присосался к Украине как клоп.
Шейтель присосался к Украине как клоп.