On Leftist Disunity

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @MainelyMandy
    @MainelyMandy 2 года назад +847

    "I don't have time to wait for a capital R Revolution like it's the rapture."
    I love this line so much. The reverence some leftists have for this specific event rather than recognizing all the small and meaningful acts they can make on a local level really frustrates me sometimes. Thanks for this great video!

    • @mayayamato7351
      @mayayamato7351 2 года назад +43

      it would serve lots of people well to know that it is not just one future event as he said in the video "the revolution is now". it's lots of little things, it's everything that's happened, and revolution will keep happening when and where its needed.

    • @jiujitsuguy74
      @jiujitsuguy74 2 года назад +3

      Ok, so… mission accomplished, right? We can roll up the banners. We won!

    • @mayayamato7351
      @mayayamato7351 2 года назад +35

      @@jiujitsuguy74 "there's always going to be work for changes" is pretty much the direct opposite of "mission accomplished"

    • @viktorberzinsky4781
      @viktorberzinsky4781 2 года назад +4

      I think people need to realize that the great and holy capital R Revolution will only happen if we make it happen. We may not know the hour or the day, but we can speed it up if we do something no matter how small now.

    • @jiujitsuguy74
      @jiujitsuguy74 2 года назад

      @@mayayamato7351 right, so, do nothing but try to find a reason to feel as if you had. Sounds like a winning strategy to me, boys!

  • @CaptainWyatt
    @CaptainWyatt 2 года назад +728

    10 leftists and only 20 opinions? Clearly they haven’t been reading enough theory! Nice work, dude, this one is really cutting deep!

    • @veganarchistcommunist3051
      @veganarchistcommunist3051 2 года назад +42

      I was going to read this comment, but I had more theory to read.

    • @LaGrandeBayou
      @LaGrandeBayou 2 года назад +7

      As a vegan it may surprise you to learn that your brain needed meat proteins to fully develop. There exist specific nutrients that plants beans or rice simply cannot provide that are critical to normal brain development. An argument could be made that you could read all the theories of Marx or Lenin Stalin but your brain is unable to ascertain it’s content thus leaving you to being told what to think.
      What is “the current thing” your mad about now?

    • @veganarchistcommunist3051
      @veganarchistcommunist3051 2 года назад +40

      @@LaGrandeBayou Sorry, too B12 deficient to care.

    • @CaptainWyatt
      @CaptainWyatt 2 года назад

      @@LaGrandeBayou I really do wonder why folks like yourself watch videos like this, let alone troll the comments. I guess all that big meat brain means you're just desperate to get a debate in wherever you can?

    • @LexyLexer
      @LexyLexer 2 года назад +2

      Hahahaha

  • @juanjuri6127
    @juanjuri6127 2 года назад +231

    pea brain: accusing other leftists of being splitters
    universal brain: accusing other leftists of not wanting to form Voltron

  • @jdsmitty325
    @jdsmitty325 2 года назад +541

    Something I have gripes with is using an ideology as an identity (e.g. "I'm a Marxist; I'm a DemSoc etc.) because using ideologies as labels prevents any kind of flexibility in intellectual growth. We're humans first and foremost, not a specific ideology.

    • @mayayamato7351
      @mayayamato7351 2 года назад +49

      i refuse to completely categorize myself at this point on this for this reason.

    • @susim4503
      @susim4503 2 года назад +12

      I can never work out where I supposedly belong.

    • @liammarshall-butler3384
      @liammarshall-butler3384 2 года назад

      I don't know if there's is much of a difference between a Marxist and someone who thinks Marx was correct

    • @Multi_Plays
      @Multi_Plays 2 года назад +15

      @@liammarshall-butler3384 the only real difference is I think someone who labels themselves is less likely to change thier mind.

    • @caitieeeee
      @caitieeeee 2 года назад +8

      I agree and that's why I usually say I'm just on the left.

  • @lazergurka-smerlin6561
    @lazergurka-smerlin6561 2 года назад +164

    10:10 "The revolution is now" That is such a good anti-doomer quote. You don't need to usher in a world revolution to make things better, while yes things won't be perfect they weren't really ever going to be, you can still help now

    • @MagiciteHeart
      @MagiciteHeart 2 года назад +4

      Yep, the revolution is ALWAYS now. Permanent revolution, baybeeee~

    • @purromemes7395
      @purromemes7395 2 года назад

      You may be a Revolutionary now but one day you will be called a right wing reactionary. Politics is not static, it is fluid.
      The left of today is the right of the future.

    • @lazergurka-smerlin6561
      @lazergurka-smerlin6561 2 года назад +6

      @@purromemes7395 Peoples beliefs aren't static either. I don't know what political belief I'll have by the time I'm 80, maybe I'll be even more radical. But honestly, I don't care what label my beliefs have in the future, what matters is that they do good for society in general. So I don't really see your point

    • @professionaltrainenthusias4945
      @professionaltrainenthusias4945 2 года назад +4

      @@purromemes7395 then fucking good, nothing is fixed, if the people of the future are farther left than i, i'd die happy
      also what the fuck, clearly not, what you think leftists go around calling emma goldman a fascist, tf you on about?

  • @SJKlapecki
    @SJKlapecki 2 года назад +798

    I don't get the obsession with "left unity," when every time I've heard someone express "Left Unity," what they mean is "my politics should dominate but I'll let you in the club if you don't piss me off."
    I'm generally okay with disagreements so long as people have the same actual goals as me - politics based on anti-capitalism, mutual aid, direct action, all with the goal of flattening or eliminating hierarchy, and trying to fundamentally change society outside of the State. That means that I know a lot of politically eclectic folks who are all anarchist or anarchist-adjacent, and a lot less people who think it's justified to roll the tanks into Hungary again. That works for me, disagreeing with people and yet knowing we're fundamentally aligned. That seems just...extremely logical, at least compared to forming coalitions with people who do not even share the same basic values as you.
    also your facial hair rocks, nice new avatar

    • @aroace7913
      @aroace7913 2 года назад +70

      Agreed, the whole ´´ Why can´t we all just get along ? ´´ is not understanding the differences between people and what they believe in.

    • @desotaku5202
      @desotaku5202 2 года назад +26

      My issue with that is, that the right is kinda united. They also have differences, but on some topics the get way more along.
      While the left fights over fundemental stuff, they for example rally behind anti abortion laws or fight against minorities in unison.

    • @bobbiecat8000
      @bobbiecat8000 2 года назад +31

      @@desotaku5202 I think what you mean there is that the left allows a lot ideas for some division to happen, co it allows freedom of ideas, while the right as of the us is leaning on more fanatical viewpoint with a destructive dogma on its side.

    • @VictorPerez-df8zy
      @VictorPerez-df8zy 2 года назад +7

      I've given up on politics because the right is too good at public relations, media, as well as hijacking left wing political ideas and posioning the word untill its unspeakable. You can't even talk about anarchy because everybody associates the word with chaos even in a political sense. Look at communism, the idea is for the people to dismantle the state by owning their work enviroment yet everybody associates it with governement takeover. I live in a small town in south florida. I've never meant anyone as left as "good hearted" liberal and theyre typically transplant Northerners.
      As for hierarchy, I'm beginning to think its our way of seeing who's the apex predator among us, who can acheive the highest social status, accumulate the most wealth by whatever means, and Im not one for a biological worldview.
      Conservatism, the status quo, and hierachy are older than the state. The industrial revolution changed the world we live in yet we have not changed ourselves.

    • @samuelforesta
      @samuelforesta 2 года назад +6

      @@aroace7913 Just because people disagree doesn't mean they have to be assholes to eachother. In fact, being an asshole to anyone is counterproductive rhetoric that is bound to hurt your argument more than help it.

  • @WhatsTherapy
    @WhatsTherapy 2 года назад +157

    "Means and ends matter" - really appreciated that line, would love to hear more about your perspective on that. Great video, thanks

    • @jonathanschweiss316
      @jonathanschweiss316 5 месяцев назад +1

      Zoe Baker talks a lot about the unity of means and ends in anarchist praxis. She even wrote a book about the history of anarchist movements called *Means and Ends*. Highly recommended.

  • @Elnendil
    @Elnendil 2 года назад +373

    I've been feeling this message so much lately. Dealing with so many disagreements, I've still enjoyed discussion and debate, and I have my own visions, my own goals. But its okay if we don't agree. Thanks for this.

    • @Scoring57
      @Scoring57 2 года назад

      Albrekka
      Hopefully you understand that means really not agreeing and you're not only saying that half heartedly in hopes you win over people with good will

    • @Sluppie
      @Sluppie 2 года назад +1

      Same, actually. A lot of people want me to care about their problems, and I really sincerely do; but it's hard to really stand with them when I know for a fact that they will never, ever return the favor.

    • @iswitchedsidesforthiscat
      @iswitchedsidesforthiscat 2 года назад

      Who made that profile pic?

  • @RedRosa
    @RedRosa 2 года назад +124

    Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently. - Rosa Luxemburg

    • @TigerT242
      @TigerT242 2 года назад +2

      Polk DSA? 👀

    • @RedRosa
      @RedRosa 2 года назад +3

      @@TigerT242 You know it!🌹

    • @MagiciteHeart
      @MagiciteHeart 2 года назад +1

      Queening

  • @metalgamer21
    @metalgamer21 2 года назад +254

    This is really important and has given me a lot to think about. I certainly never agreed with the types who would claim “leftist unity” to deflect criticism against racist/ableist/homophobic online leftists, but I think it’s important how you pointed out that we should extend this framework to other issues and that’s fine.

    • @itsdonuttime7729
      @itsdonuttime7729 2 года назад +31

      I see leftist talking about 'the left eating the left' or 'leftist get so caught up in ideological purity' when it's just one leftist correcting or adding ideas/nuance to another leftists talking points and the whole discussion imploding because the second leftist wasn't willing to understand the deeper meaning behind the topic in the first place. It goes into things like class reductionism, white feminism, and alienation of niche LGBT identities.

    • @BladeValant546
      @BladeValant546 2 года назад +7

      @@itsdonuttime7729 The issue is punitive justice vs restorative justice. That is the issue we still carry punitive bs.

    • @shnglbot
      @shnglbot 2 года назад +3

      Stop! Thief!
      Locke

    • @metalgamer21
      @metalgamer21 2 года назад +4

      @@shnglbot I'm not a thief, I'm a treasure hunter!

  • @Leena-tr7yq
    @Leena-tr7yq 2 года назад +87

    “My world is a world where many worlds exist” great video!

  • @artofpaya7862
    @artofpaya7862 2 года назад +339

    5:14 “capitalism is not the final boss” 100x yes! One of my biggest frustrations during the 2020 election cycle was how often leftists were saying that our number one priority was ending capitalism, disregarding and minimizing all the other problems that are of equal importance.
    Leftist unity is hard, but it’s natural that it’s hard. It doesn’t mean that we can’t “come together”, it just means that we have to stop telling each other what does and doesn’t matter, when the reality is that all of the problems we’re facing deserve attention and devotion to them. Of course no one person is gonna be able to care about everything, but that’s why there are so many of us!
    Side note: i adore your voice ☺️

    • @hcxpl1
      @hcxpl1 2 года назад +11

      I'm not sure if this is the best place for this discussion but what do you mean by capitalism not being the final boss? I mean, I get it, toppling capitalism won't magically solve all our problems and there are many things that cannot wait for it to fall, and that's why we need to take direct action to guarantee people get the support that they need.
      That said, though, wouldn't it all be much easier if not for capitalism? I know people won't suddenly change just bc we are not under it anymore and there will still be many problems of prejudice, misconceptions and what not. I understand that there won't ever be a Revolution that will solve everything and the only thing we can make is change what we can today, but like, isn't toppling Capitalism the hardest part? when I say capitalism I actually include things like colonialism and whatnot, but still.
      So the question is more on the vein of "Do you mean it's not the final boss bc there won't be any revolution and people should focus on direct action rather than an abstract goal or something that went completely over my head?"

    • @babymilksnatcher
      @babymilksnatcher 2 года назад +20

      the way many white cisgender leftist take capitalism as root of every social inequality (notably racism and queerphobia) and claim it will disappear once we smash capitalism truly is insufferable. Just a way to push the problem under the rug. The most blatant example being transphobia, just look at how the history of transpeople has been erased through the eras, even before capitalism came to exist.

    • @siccodewilt1
      @siccodewilt1 2 года назад +1

      I agree.
      Side note: Anyone know who's painting that is?

    • @brennam954
      @brennam954 2 года назад +2

      @@kwhodostuff5504 Your statement is highly class reductionist and also lacks imagination. We should be doing both. Also, read Transgender Marxism.

    • @sverrebjrbk6965
      @sverrebjrbk6965 2 года назад +10

      Capitalism is BY FAR the biggest and main problem. All other problems are subservent to it. I get that your point is that politics are continous and won't have a singular, stagnant end state, but it's absolutely vital that economic and material structures are the primary focus for all socialist politics.

  • @MannIchFindKeinName
    @MannIchFindKeinName 2 года назад +28

    In germany we say "if 3 lefties meet, 4 sub-groups(factions?) are formed"

  • @manofathousandvoices
    @manofathousandvoices 2 года назад +34

    "...Unity is not some superficial declaration. Revolution is not a single, simple, linear event set into the distant future. Nuance matters. Definitions matter. Means and ends matter..." Spot fucking on. I've enjoyed and been challenged by a couple of your clips, but this one is especially timely. You meaningfully grapple with so many contentious talking points in like 10 minutes *and* you do it all in good faith. Thank you for this.

  • @charliejohanssen7421
    @charliejohanssen7421 2 года назад +277

    A coalition is a grouping of local groups orientated towards the same goal, something like stopping a housing development, abolishing police in the given area, defeating a specific fascist threat, these are things you can form a coalition around, having entirely different trajectories and not even living in the same affected area makes for bad coalitions.

    • @arkology_city
      @arkology_city 2 года назад +5

      "something like stopping a housing development"
      Good job, comrade! One of my proudest moments as a leftist was when the community came together to report an illegal homeless encampment to have it destroyed the following week ---- Not on our watch! Not in our city!

    • @ohno6325
      @ohno6325 Год назад +8

      @@arkology_city 😂😂 you a fool

  • @DrAnarchy69
    @DrAnarchy69 2 года назад +221

    I’m less than a minute in and already a like. Quite good. I completely agree with this video, left unity is impossible and that’s fine. Leninists and Anarchists in particular have some irreconcilable differences, but that doesn’t mean that we can’t work with Leninists on specific issues and campaigns when our interests align.
    Also love the new avatar, the facial hair suits you.

    • @nalahhuru9915
      @nalahhuru9915 2 года назад +2

      @Dr.Anarchy69 Lenin was a ruling class puppet who murdered his own people. If you support a state in any capacity, you are not an anarchist, but you would be a statist, which means you support slavery. Government in any capacity is slavery. Natural law is the only law. True anarchy means without rulers which means freedom. Left/Right are just jaws of the same dirty batty. Free up your mind. Recognize your sovereignty. Respect.

    • @superbananas7792
      @superbananas7792 2 года назад +21

      @@nalahhuru9915 I wouldn't necessarily call the "Left/right" paradigm isn't"Just some dirty batty", organisation, its important to have even a basic idea of where someone is and more importantly whether they're full of shit.
      For example people who claim Anarchism is "neither left or right" and then try to claim its compatible with Capitalism because "Capitalism is just free people trading voluntarily" which completely ignores the very basic tenets of Capitalism.
      See get my point doh?
      Claiming "Anarchy is just being without rulers" and telling people to ignore the left/right in itself falls into a trap, one being that Anarchism is alot more then that and its important especially in terms of building a new society in the shell of the old to demonstrate that and two it allows the Authoritarian right to co-operate ye movement.
      Just recognise that we are indeed on the left politically but that for starters we are against the Authoritarian and Liberal left in their strategy and perspective.
      Not to say I don't agree with you on Lenin and the Bolsheviks though, iv typically tried not to organise with people outside the Libertarian left......though that is hard and kinda stupid in many ways, most Anarchists typically come from AuthSoc backgrounds (myself included).
      That's why I kinda like plan C, it's organised in a fairly Libertarian Communist way but it has got people from all across the left, though I don't know whether the whole "left unity" narrative is pushed.

    • @nalahhuru9915
      @nalahhuru9915 2 года назад

      @@superbananas7792 I appreciate your response. I'll be getting back here.

    • @grandfathernurgle2840
      @grandfathernurgle2840 2 года назад +1

      @@superbananas7792 And what would you qualify are the tenets of capitalism?

    • @superbananas7792
      @superbananas7792 2 года назад +18

      @@grandfathernurgle2840 Private ownership of the means of production, wage slavery and the exchange of goods and services in a market economy for profit.

  • @jayb8571
    @jayb8571 2 года назад +40

    You've captured something fundamental in how anarchist language makes itself accessible to a broad audience. It's everywhere in your channel, but especially here. You're doing a great job, and I feel ashamed calling it that for how short it falls.

  • @AvatarBowler
    @AvatarBowler 2 года назад +115

    I’ve been distancing myself from the “left unity” label as well. I personally prefer the idea of “left alliance” or as Black Red Guard put it, “tactical unity”.
    In other words, because unity is difficult/impossible and because it implies differences can be ignored, certain fights should only be waged together where agreement is possible (hence the emphasis on tactics and alliances). Beating up fascists, mutual aid, union organizing, resisting police violence, etc. are all doable as a collective. Other than that, differences will be present.
    Either way, Andrew, you’re hitting the nail on the head. There’s too much to simply ignore, and doing so is blind idealism. I’m still surprised at the number of leftist ideologies that exist. I personally consider that to be a good thing, but I digress. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @barbarapomeroy6497
      @barbarapomeroy6497 2 года назад +1

      Yay for Black Red Guard!

    • @omgthisismeomgthisisme
      @omgthisismeomgthisisme Год назад

      Fascists should be beaten? Carceral logic?

    • @AvatarBowler
      @AvatarBowler Год назад +3

      @@omgthisismeomgthisisme No, not really. I’m not saying to simply jail them. I’m saying beat them up. I meant this literally and I still mean it now. They have no problem doing this to us and will stop at nothing to achieve their goals; why should we restrain ourselves? This is what WW2 taught us and fascists are just as violent today, so there’s no reason to believe this century will be any different.

    • @omgthisismeomgthisisme
      @omgthisismeomgthisisme Год назад +2

      @@AvatarBowler beating fascists in self defence is ok but it's a waste of time to go after individuals who are self proclaimed fascists who really don't have any power.

  • @andythey1473
    @andythey1473 Год назад +14

    My friend used to feel guilty that she couldn't join local protests, but I pointed out to her that she opened her home to people every Friday for folk dancers to come and dance together and that kind of community-building is just as necessary and needed as going to the streets in part because the right has so many avenues of community built-in over generations (like churches, is the example I used)
    Fantastic video! Thank you

  • @forstudentpower
    @forstudentpower 2 года назад +76

    For people who always drone on about how we need "left unity," it's usually shorthand for "left unity on *my* terms."

  • @ProfessorFlowers
    @ProfessorFlowers 2 года назад +31

    "I know I can't control the global. None of us can. But local is in all of our hands."

  • @MoogDoog
    @MoogDoog 2 года назад +35

    Leftist Theory "To-Read" list be like *opens a Way to the Wanderers' Library*

    • @tentativegazer
      @tentativegazer 7 месяцев назад +1

      Library of Babel but for leftist theory

  • @ItHadToBeSaid
    @ItHadToBeSaid 2 года назад +25

    The great thing about anarchism is it encourages you to think and act for yourself, so we can be part of any struggle for liberation, and we don't have to stick with a movement if it turns oppressive.

    • @Nemo_Anom
      @Nemo_Anom 8 месяцев назад

      Good luck herding cats and undermining any genuine leftist progress! You're doing great, sweatie!

  • @helloofthebeach
    @helloofthebeach 2 года назад +88

    "Let's overthrown capitalism and worry about our differences later" not only pretends ideology doesn't figure into strategy (as in, how you'd attempt to do the thing in the first place), but it feels like laying out a welcome mat for red-brown alliance stuff.

    • @dustind4694
      @dustind4694 2 года назад +19

      Learning that the ends and means can't be separated from one another is a difficult, painful, and absolutely necessary point of instruction.

    • @charmander9631
      @charmander9631 2 года назад

      "hero of the beach" has the ghayst profile picture Ive ever seen on RUclips ever. and thats saying a lot. thats very ghey.

    • @charmander9631
      @charmander9631 2 года назад

      damn thts very ghey, OP.

  • @MagiciteHeart
    @MagiciteHeart 2 года назад +15

    You are VERY quickly becoming my favorite theory channel on the platform. This is exactly why I describe myself as "Post-Left". Leftism as a concept carries no objective meaning. It means different things to different people. I prefer to discuss discrete opinions on specific issues, and all the theory in the world isn't worth a damn thing if you don't even put it into practice. Ideological purity can only ever exist inside oneself. As soon as even a single other person becomes involved, there will invariably be differences. If your personal theory isn't dynamic and ever-changing, then you are no better than the right despite claiming to be a leftist. Both sides suffer from extreme ego delusion. Thank you very much for this video. Power to you, brother.

  • @Barry_Tone
    @Barry_Tone 2 года назад +60

    just a nitpick on the history of the French revolution : there were people on the left side of the Convention who sought to abolish hierarchies. They were the Hébertistes and the Babouvistes, also known as the "Enragés" and the "Conspiracy of Equals". Their camp was destroyed by the Girondins and the Jacobins - parties who only sought to replace the aristocratisc hierarchy of the Ancien Régime with a bourgeois hierarchy.
    That said, very good video.

  • @duckspeaker2702
    @duckspeaker2702 2 года назад +28

    A lot of "leftists" I know who are critical of everything else in the world are rarely critical of their own particular beliefs. If your entire ideology revolves around pointing the finger at other ideologies, that finger will eventually be pointed back at you, and if you're not prepared for it, it can be a real mind blower

  • @Sweet4chokoreeto
    @Sweet4chokoreeto 2 года назад +24

    Still remembering that time Pinochet believed he would win in a public consult to decide to stay with the dictator aka "president" or to choose to begin election process for a new president.
    Chilean left united to vote NO.
    NO option won and we have democracy.
    The NO campaign t shirt was white with *NO* in bold black and a rainbow 🌈 best t-shirt ever, is in fashion now 🥰💖🌈

  • @lukehorton4373
    @lukehorton4373 2 года назад +13

    Watching this video feels like a relief. Accepting that i disagree with people, and cooperating and sharing resources with people i disagree with, feels like such a relief. I don’t believe in Utopia, the best case scenario is we struggle with people in both agreement and disagreement toward a world thats more beautiful and safe and loving than this one. Thank you so much❤

  • @JonathanCorversProfiel
    @JonathanCorversProfiel 2 года назад +16

    Love this video as I've been really struggling to build bridges between different local groups behind a shared cause. I've seen in real life that these movements will never unite but by setting a very specific shared goal it seems possible to achieve something. Thanks for sharing this, it makes me feel I'm not doing too bad as a stumbling, clumsy activist.

  • @dutchspartacus7738
    @dutchspartacus7738 2 года назад +102

    As a leftist, I agree and disagree. Peace dude.

    • @CorvusCoraxification
      @CorvusCoraxification 2 года назад +38

      What nonsense! I disagree and agree.

    • @silver_tongue9644
      @silver_tongue9644 2 года назад +2

      This is dum
      I just agree😄

    • @brennam954
      @brennam954 2 года назад +1

      @@CorvusCoraxification If you choose to think about that statement in context and not be so reactionary, you'll understand that it means that he agrees with some parts but disagrees with others. It's also a joke in itself, making S.A.'s point that the left is diverse and often contradictory.

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p 2 года назад +13

      @@brennam954 i'm pretty sure Lucas was just doubling down on the joke tho : p

  • @Morgan.Farkind
    @Morgan.Farkind 2 года назад +15

    I will absolutely comment on the look and I'm here for it. It's only been a year or so of content from you iirc but the new avi is great. Feels like you're progressing and growing!

  • @surgeland9084
    @surgeland9084 2 года назад +130

    I mean, I'm happy to work with leftists who have different ideas as my own toward a common goal. But if you think I'll be cooperating with the ideas of reactionary leftists―particularly those who oppose decolonization, use abusive language, and excuse the crimes of ostensibly socialist dictators―you've had a few too many. There are certain places I refuse to budge because I think it would harm the liberation of the oppressed; the reason I became an anarchist in the first place, and there are some people who won't want a part of my movement and I'm just fine with that.

    • @ferigoli9408
      @ferigoli9408 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, those “ostensibly socialist dictators” did good things and bad things. I’ve seen mls online an most of them don’t want an exact return to the soviet union. Hakim (a very prominent ml youtuber) even made a video criticizing the soviet union. I think the main thing that divides the left is misunderstanding and name-calling. Buzzwords like “Red fascist!” and “CIA-funded liberal!” don’t really do much but show how stupid hardliners of both ideologies can be.

    • @surgeland9084
      @surgeland9084 2 года назад +16

      @@ferigoli9408 Well, sure. There is nuance. But I'm not talking about Hakim. I actually like him. I'm talking about the Maupin, Infrared, Peter Coffin types who don't know how to takt the good with the bad. Hakim, even though I'm not an ml, is the kind of ml I would work with because his analysis you know…makes sense. And if he and his people decide to make Iraq Marxist-Leninist, I support them as long they let me and my people self-govern without a state. We can support each other because our peaceful coexistance is a possibility.

    • @epimisti
      @epimisti 2 года назад +8

      @@surgeland9084 Sorry not sorry but hierarchy and opposition to hierarchy can‘t coexist. And Hakim has dozens of really bad takes (especially on China).

    • @surgeland9084
      @surgeland9084 2 года назад +9

      @@epimisti Hakim does have bad takes, sure. But generally, they aren't bad enough to warrant a cancelling to my mind. Infrared and Maupin are much worse. Now yes, while I agree that hierarchy and opposition to hierarchy can't coexist in the same society, I do believe that we could make parallel societies based on similar ideals with a promise of peace between them. Because the bad news is that our common enemies are too powerful for us to be divided.

    • @TheSuperRatt
      @TheSuperRatt Год назад +5

      @@surgeland9084 I wish I had your optimism, but at the same time... there is a reason why hierarchical societies have become the norm. Because they are willing to kill and dominate and consume, those who aren't. Because they view a non-hierarchical society, ANY stateless society, as a threat to the very legitimacy of their power. I don't actually believe that a state can co-exist alongside an anarchist-minded collective, even though I fervently wish it were possible.

  • @ShadaOfAllThings
    @ShadaOfAllThings 2 года назад +39

    If the same term can refer to American Liberalism, Anarcho-Communism and Stalinism, you should know its a bad term

    • @orbismworldbuilding8428
      @orbismworldbuilding8428 2 года назад +1

      I keep saying the political compass needs a third dimension. It will make stuff so much clearer and terms can be renovated.

    • @linusdroptips660
      @linusdroptips660 2 года назад +6

      @@orbismworldbuilding8428 there is a third dimension its called the libertarian party that supports laissez-faire capitalism with little to no government contol while republican party supports partial governmental control and the democrat party wants full government control they just dont get to be on stage with the democrats and republicans because of funding issues

    • @VictorPerez-df8zy
      @VictorPerez-df8zy 2 года назад +6

      @@linusdroptips660 Yet the reality is both parties support neoliberalism where all the corporations are given government aid and the Libertarians cry about small business failing but secretly wanted to be too big too fail

    • @VictorPerez-df8zy
      @VictorPerez-df8zy 2 года назад +2

      those words dont mean the same thing. They are considered the same because Americans lack naunce in political discussion. There's a big difference between the name of a guy and a political philosophy as well as American liberalism which for the life of me i dont know how people associate it with Government takeover other than right wing misinformation. communism means community, anarchy means no hierarchy, a dictator is in complete opposition to those ideas because he's a ruler(hierarchy) of the country(community).

    • @linusdroptips660
      @linusdroptips660 2 года назад +1

      @@VictorPerez-df8zy communism does not mean community communism in every example in history has always lead to dictatorships and a massive wealth and inequality disparity and a loss of the middle class, communism in every sense is an anti-freedom movement targeted at weakening the people, the freedom of expression and speech in every example of communism in history reflects this communism gives an unpresidented amount of power to the goverment and thats what you people seem to not understand and im sure you can understand that the goverments decisions for the past years have not been good for any of us and being reliant on the government and the goverment alone with out any saftey net is suicide for a country not to mention communism only works if that ruler is not corrupt and when you give a person that amount of power over an entire country they go on a power trip so no communism would not be the way to go for this country.

  • @L3onking
    @L3onking 2 года назад +20

    I like to think of the world is an amalgamation of different perspectives similar to how a theater seating arrangement means everyone is technically seeing the same show at slightly different angles which can drastically change the viewing pleasure depending on where someone is located.
    The States have never been United, each state has their own specialized values and some people need more than others, the best thing about that is the world is abundant with resources and we could provide for those who need our help.
    Personally, I'm renovating a small hobby farm into a climate controlled farmers market that can unify the local small farmers into a Market not reliant on our government. I don't need to be a billionaire, I just want to eat dinner and protect what little land I can manage.

    • @mikedrop4421
      @mikedrop4421 2 года назад

      Unfortunately some self important leftist will come by and say that if you really cared you would have given your land to the community or the indigenous people that roamed it hundreds of years ago. That's the problem. Instead of supporting the good work you're doing people will line up to tell you it's not enough.

    • @L3onking
      @L3onking 2 года назад

      @@mikedrop4421 I'd counter that with asking if they have done the same.
      I've spoken to my local tribe and they don't want to have anything to do with the settlers, if I gave back this land, it would be smack dab around a bunch of people who don't care whatsoever about their plight and would also allow the current capitalist government that regularly invades reservation land to come and take this one too.
      The problem was never about natives reclaiming their lands, it's that they are peaceful and don't use aggression to maintain it.

  • @LieseFury
    @LieseFury 2 года назад +14

    even when i was a bright-eyed optimistic Bernie voter i had seen enough of "The Left" to understand that "left unity" was a very silly idea.

  • @neverendingparty2060
    @neverendingparty2060 Год назад +5

    When I was poli sci this was a great thing pushed. That the reason why a lot of left movements can lack organization and agreeing means and some times ends and it can be far broader than the right.
    Good left politics organizes, colaberates, pushes together and tries to guards the victories they already won

  • @JMoore-vo7ii
    @JMoore-vo7ii 2 года назад +7

    A lot to think about from this one mate. I think the more personal touch on this one makes it stand out from your previous work. Thanks for doing what you do

  • @inceldestroyer1069
    @inceldestroyer1069 2 года назад +7

    Some of the discourse these days is so petty and the whole leftist puritanism and the idea of leftist purity is incredibly toxic.
    I dont think Im crazy for thinking elected officials and organizers can cause more change than a bunch of twitter and tumblr users who think they're going to start the next October Revolution. But Ive been lectured on stating that.
    Volunteering, donating, and being involved in our communities is the best thing we can do rather than sitting on our phones all day and partaking in social media discourse.
    Volunteering to help disadvantaged youth has help me overcome depression. I advise anyone who is passionate about overcoming the oppression of capitalism to volunteer or organize. Start a facebook group, get involved in your community as much as you can.
    Perhaps in an ideal society, leftists could all have their sects as political parties. I love this video.

  • @heroflygon
    @heroflygon Месяц назад

    Damn I needed to hear that last bit today. The election has been draining my time and focus like a vampire, and it really helped me put thinks back in perspective. Thanks for that!

  • @FlauFly
    @FlauFly 2 года назад +55

    I feel exactly the same as I'm dipping my toes more and more into "discourse". Left unity slogan from the very beginning felt a little bit disingenous, as a tool for enforcing specific tendencies dominance.
    BTW on side note. Lack of usual music jingle beats made this video less "upbeat" and more "serious" than usual. I don't know if that was your intention, but that felt more pessimistic than I used to expect from you, but that honesty is important.

    • @Andrewism
      @Andrewism  2 года назад +31

      Re side note: It's more so that i got a bit tired of the background music😂 but if folks want it back I'll bring it back.

    • @FlauFly
      @FlauFly 2 года назад +11

      @@Andrewism Hah, no, maybe I just over think details, don't worry. I just on some level associated them with you, like yellow drawings etc.

    • @neodlehoko404
      @neodlehoko404 2 года назад

      Ok Jack Sparrow, Time for the remix. 😎

  • @PeKaNo
    @PeKaNo 2 года назад +2

    this is probably one of the simplest yet most important videos i've seen about the "left" on youtube. you get my subscription

  • @TheLeksilijum
    @TheLeksilijum 2 года назад +40

    This is such a great video, but the fact that the "left" was never united doesn't mean it isn't a useful umbrella term, especially when taking a dialectical approach. I'm sorry for the big "D word" what I mean by that is understanding why these categories you put in juxtaposition actually aren't compatible and finding a way to make them compatible.
    Representation is necessary on a large scale level, and sure you may not have to care about the "macro" world but it has to work out somehow. It doesn't mean that elected representatives have to stay immune to poppular demands like they are today. The state doesn't have to be a top down structure, it can just be a name for a network of institutions who work together as cooperatives and are treated as commons by the people who live in that framework. When we speak of anti-work and workerism they also don't have to be incompatible because we can cherish creativity and production by emphasizing usufruct and enjoyment/fun/exploration within worker cooperatives etc...
    I have to be an optimist, I'm profoundly burned out from all the sects I (don't) belong to and work with. Besides, different types of "leftists" live in the same neighborhoods, they can share resources, learn from each other and unite organically, and talk about their isms in context.

    • @otherperson
      @otherperson 2 года назад +1

      When an ideology is against representation, in every sense besides the use of easily recallable delegates who cannot make any decisions themselves, by capitulating to their terms in the name of unity, you are therefore excluding all other forms of representation, which others may think are not only useful but necessary and inevitable. Some people, in fact, do not believe that representation is necessary on the macro level. Others would say that to think a society could function without some representative, capable of ignoring the vacilations of the people more broadly, would be doomed to begin with. How do you make these two beliefs compatible? By doing so, you must capitulate to one, and therefore disregard or even suppress the other. I agree that "the left" is a broadly useful umbrella term, though its use is so widespread that it can only really compare itself to neoliberalism and fascism. Many people who call themselves leftists, and even socialists, believe that a capitalist welfare state based on Keyensian economics is a practical ideal, believe that average people should not own guns and that "abolishing the police is comparable to the police presence of an American suburb. How exactly do these people find compatability with anarchism? Yet it is not uncommon to hear these very people call for left unity. No synthesis can be developed, no means can make them compatible. They are in total opposition. I agree with the idea that it can be a useful umbrella, but I don't think that umbrella can ever be perfectly functional.

    • @TheLeksilijum
      @TheLeksilijum 2 года назад +1

      @@otherperson thank you for replying. I have a childish urge to write "fanatics are stupid" but that doesn't mean anything. Either extreme POV is bound to bring to cognitive dissonances. I can't imagine someone reading a translation of anything and saying "representation sucks". Without representation we'd all be truly independent. And anyone who thinks that opinions can be disregarded is making an assumption that the "fact and logic" they operate with are universal and not themselves mostly made up of opinions.

    • @otherperson
      @otherperson 2 года назад

      @@TheLeksilijum How are either extreme bound to bring cognitive dissonances? Is that to say that all anarchists in the last 150 years who want to limit representation to, at most, delegates who cannot make independent decisions and who are immediately recallable fanatics who simply havent thought hard enough about the topic? What about all the people in history who lived under kings, and thought it to be the natural and correct order of society? I don't really understand the last bit of your comment because, of course, the "facts and logic" that you are operating with are also just opinions lol. People who disagree are not, by necessity dogmatic, or fanatics, or illogical. These are not necessarily "extreme" positions. It is not that people have simply not realized that we NEED representation at some level. They just fundamentally disagree with this position, believing that representation, in any form in which people can make sweeping decisions for others without their direct consent, breeds bad results. You say a state doesn't necessarily have to be top down, yet this is a fundamental part of how anarchists define states. There is no historical state that does not operate on the logic of top down authority, so why should your definition be the most correct, the compromise, or the rational, dialectical synthesis? Thinking of other opinions which may not be able to square with your own as fanatical extremes to your logical center is exactly why left unity can never be achieved, and should never be achieved. These ideologies cannot functionally exist in tandem on the broadest scale. You cannot have a system of management which pleases both a Marxist Leninist who believes in state centralization and unitary action, police, militaries, and the dictatorship of the proletariat, and an anarchist who wants stateless municipal federations which collectivize under the principle of free association, which seeks to abolish centralized militaries, the authority of police, and even the proletariat as a class. These things simply cannot square. That does not mean that either represents fanaticism, and it certainly does not mean that you know the most logical, most self-evident course.

    • @otherperson
      @otherperson 2 года назад +1

      You are, in other words, disregarding the opinions of others when you say that you don't understand how any one can come to the conclusion that "representation sucks" (obviously a highly simplistic way of understanding that opinion), based on a logic which you perceive as universal and not just another opinion. Some people do indeed believe that "representation sucks" and not only that it sucks but that it is functionally impossible within a truly democratic system. That does not make them irrational. It is just their opinion, and whether or not you believe them to be wrong, does not really change the fact that your beliefs are equally just opinions, and there is no reason to believe that your opinion is right.

    • @TheLeksilijum
      @TheLeksilijum 2 года назад

      @@otherperson I'm sorry I gave the impression that I find my opinions to be facts and logic. Facts and logic are not normative things, science doesn't have opinions. So anything I suggest could very well be wrong predicting the future is impossible... I also apologize for not taking time to properly respond. I (reluctantly) identify as an anarchist, Murray Bookchin is my ideological father, and I'm actively working on horizontal organizing especially to abolish invisible informal hierarchies that anarchists are (from my experience) especially vulnerable to. That's where the so called "tirrany of structurelesness" comes to destroy anarchy. Most of the self-proclaimed anarchists groups I had the misfortune to come in contact with insist on consensus (de jure) by (de facto) gaslighting and emotionally draining their members who have any level of opposition to the dominant discourse of the group.
      Maybe I'm a bad anarchist, but sometimes I can't make decisions, I don't feel competent. If facts and logic explain to me the correlation between say hurricane intensity and air moisture, I am incapable of doing anything with that information. If a doctor tells me I got leucemia I can only decide to commit suicide to not suffer, but if I wanted to get better and survive, I'd have to believe the doctor, effectively resigning on my autonomy. If people make food for me while I was at work and I come home to a warm meal I won't get all angry for not being asked what I want to eat, the people I live with know my taste in food. I'd feel grateful for not having to think about everything myself.
      Feeling personally responsible for everything is exactly what's killing me in the capitalist economy. And without institutions I don't see how to solve these issues.
      Does this make more sense?
      PS: if you're not sure what I meant by something I'd appreciate you ask me instead of putting words between my lines, and if anything I said triggers you I'd also appreciate the heads-up so I don't keep on triggering and causing emotional harm.

  • @h4rrish4wk97
    @h4rrish4wk97 2 года назад +4

    This is a fantastic video and really gave me a lot to think about especially considering something I've been both working on and dealt with recently. But aside from all of that - I just want to say: I'm digging the facial hair - looks great.

  • @sincrodestin
    @sincrodestin 2 года назад +3

    "My world is a world where many worlds exists". Such a great video!

  • @SpirallingUpwards
    @SpirallingUpwards 2 года назад +2

    I've thought this for ages, but I didn't go as far as to look at the term "left" in the way you're talking about in this video. It's a fucking nice analysis 👌 Think I'm gonna adopt this way of looking at it. Rather than being generally left, being explicitly anarchist, post-colonial, intersectional etc. is a big one.

  • @samuelbroad11
    @samuelbroad11 Год назад +2

    a quote i heard: "the right looks for converts, the left looks for traitors"

  • @GayestWinston
    @GayestWinston 2 года назад +9

    "We'd be able to Voltron ourself the hell out of capitalism." xD I liked that one

  • @mm-rj3vo
    @mm-rj3vo 2 года назад +6

    Dissolve dogma. A compassionate, scientific approach to theory and analysis of praxis can bring us what the past revolutionaries didn't have. The internet has bread so many general leftists in such a short time, we MUST teach these new and open minds how to stay open to change. Whatever radical ideals we hold to, we must be willing to compare their successes and failures, to give up on certain methods and take up new ones when there is a need. The strength we need is founded on material reality, and that includes the mind.
    I'm a 26yo, "caucasian" US citizen who is NB transfemme and pansexual, for context.
    "Anarcho-communist" most closely suits my ideals, but it's just so empty with regard to other material circumstances.
    Anti-trans people are not my ally. Class reductionists are not my ally, nor are those espousing exceptionally essentializing identity politics. Fluidity, innovation, and collaboration are what will build optimal practices. Dogmatic intellectual elitism must be ended, so must the concept of "left" and "right".

    • @Jay-ho9io
      @Jay-ho9io 2 года назад

      Your second sentence is goddamn gold. I'm not going to say that I'm stealing it so much as, it's a brilliant insight and I'm going to share it elsewhere. Nicely said.

  • @benjewmin2
    @benjewmin2 Год назад +1

    You are about to get even bigger. Congrats on being chosen by the algorithm, and excellent job being ready when it did. Your content is much appreciated.

  • @jemolk8945
    @jemolk8945 2 года назад +11

    "Leftist unity" as the term is so often used may be beyond our reach, but I still have some hope for... call it leftist solidarity, or leftist collaboration. At a bare minimum, recognition from the various flavors of communists that other communists with different visions do not necessarily have to be enemies. Demanding that we all agree to a specific program -- the sort of "leftist unity" I think you're arguing against here -- seems to me to be the biggest barrier to this, ironically.

    • @samuelforesta
      @samuelforesta 2 года назад

      Why not human unity? Why only extend unity to leftists?

    • @jemolk8945
      @jemolk8945 2 года назад +1

      @@samuelforesta That's... so long as the systems of oppression that various forms of leftism seek to address still exist, such a thing is a pipe dream, nothing more. There is not the faintest shred of hope for collaboration with fascists, and a wealthy liberal capitalist has far too great a risk of sabotage to not be held at arm's length. Unity of any kind with them? No, I don't think so. That's just begging for our projects to fail. I'm not saying we should direct hatred toward non-leftists, mind, but the only way they will be reliably useful to the necessary revolution is if they change their views and become leftists of some type at a bare minimum.

    • @iloveowls8748
      @iloveowls8748 2 года назад

      @@samuelforesta How would that happen? If we don't fight the "right" in any way possible, which is not a minority but the majority. "Leftists" are all those people trying to make possible human flourishing, sharing, cooperation social & individual freedom - while "the right" are those forces in human societies who seek to dominate, oppress and accumulate for their own type of "freedom through power" . That is essentially what it could be cut down to.

  • @FourtyParsecs
    @FourtyParsecs 2 года назад +14

    The "left/right political spectrum" is only useful if you're right-wing.

    • @Nero_Karel
      @Nero_Karel 2 года назад

      It's not useful if you're right-wing either

    • @JanStarzak
      @JanStarzak 2 года назад +1

      @@Nero_Karel It's pretty useful when they want to win elections. And then they do. And then they don't get everything they want exactly the way they want it, but they get the largest things off from their wish lists. What do I get?

    • @Nero_Karel
      @Nero_Karel 2 года назад

      @@JanStarzak As a national socialist, I have to respectfully disagree lol - establishment politicians have no beliefs of their own, so it makes no sense to consider them "THE right" or "The left"; would go into what I think they are mechanically speaking, but this ain't the place for it

  • @FEMINudIST
    @FEMINudIST 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for being such a great influence in this space.

  • @interstein
    @interstein Год назад +7

    It's not ever been about uniting the left. It's been about uniting the working class. If different tendencies can form effective coalitions, then great. We should all be open to that where possible. But if these break, we should not despair.

  • @Mcmatthew99
    @Mcmatthew99 2 года назад +7

    Leftism for me is all about creating spaces of open discussion, where any idea can be voiced and discussed in terms of fundamental values.

  • @1RoundInTheChamber
    @1RoundInTheChamber 2 года назад +3

    Spot on my man. I've never bought into the idea that the left should unite under one banner. What is more worthwhile is figuring out which specific fights different groups have common stakes in. We don't need to all agree on everything, but knowing when different leftists are the enemy of our enemy should help get things done.

  • @benjipearce6028
    @benjipearce6028 2 месяца назад

    YES! Thank you for all the content you make. It's really helped me in my understanding of anarchy and organising. I hard relate to everything you say in this one.

  • @francegamer
    @francegamer Год назад +2

    Unity needs to be less "we each change our thoughts so that we can work together as one faction" and more "we'd both support this project, let's work together to get it done".
    I also think true revolution on a wider scale is pretty much impossible, both because of an inability for everyone to agree on a concrete future state of the world and because of the ability for most people to agree that they'd rather not get shot.

  • @silversam
    @silversam 2 года назад +1

    Really appreciate this. The last few years for me have been (among other things) the slow realization that the "revolution" is not an event (so far anyway) but something that informs and comes out of our daily actions.

  • @arielkroon
    @arielkroon 2 года назад +1

    Woof, the first thirty seconds of this video encapsulated my studies in feminism as an undergrad (and following into graduate school). Every person is different, and has different life experiences, worldviews, personal histories, relationships, etc which makes their own personal feminism very different than mine - which was not something I was prepared for at first, but I'm fortunate that those who knew more than me were patient with me. Same thing with leftism, or any political movement honestly. Anyway, loved this video; the historical context was really interesting.

  • @Encysted
    @Encysted 2 года назад +6

    The variety of the left compared to the right plainly shows the greater tolerance and support for individual expression, as compared to the right.

  • @citronquartz2779
    @citronquartz2779 2 года назад +1

    this video was so good. i think this video has the potential to advance the discourse online

  • @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures
    @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures 10 месяцев назад +2

    I can't speak for anyone else, but when I personally get in leftist communities and call for us to "unite," I'm literally just saying that we should sometimes organize ourselves around certain common ideals, no different than what this channel does. I'm not saying we should form our own state-I don't like states, I don't want authoritarianism. But I do think we could do a not-insignificant amount of immediate good by uniting behind certain political candidates from time to time (even in very corrupt systems). Not saying it should consume all our energy; just saying that for the duration that we're stuck living in states, it would be something good to attempt (rather than uniting behind the ideology that we should never have to unite).
    My two cents. Keep up the awesome videos, though, I think you're doing a great deal of good with this channel.

  • @michealruth8925
    @michealruth8925 2 года назад +4

    There is an extreme need for especifist/platformist methods of organization within local spaces. Much too often the presently existing orgs are broad leftist groups that use left unity to clamp down upon any critique of state structures and rulers.

  • @ralimba1778
    @ralimba1778 2 месяца назад +1

    There is also the split within the vegetarian society in 1944, which resulted in vegans forming a separate group form a direct consequence of their desire for a distinct section dedicated to non-dairy vegetarianism.

  • @artosbear
    @artosbear 2 года назад +1

    The Heart Sutra of the Prajna Paramita ends in the Mantra: "Gate Gate Paragate Parasamgate Bodhi! Svaha!" Basically: proceed, proceed, proceed beyond. Proceed beyond englightened wisdom.
    It's been in my head for a decade and driven me. you said something about keeping moving. It resonates within me.

  • @domsusefulstuff
    @domsusefulstuff 2 года назад

    I really appreciate the way you take on broad topics and manage to discuss them with enough detail to make many of the finer points clear while keeping things general enough to address a lot of different perspectives. I've been arguing with a friend who loves to compare right vs left tactics and your contrast of the two is enormously helpful in understanding why that's not a fair comparison.

  • @ShawolsStartedIt
    @ShawolsStartedIt 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for continuing to educate me on these topics. Love the new facial hair! Peace from Japan ✌️😎

  • @RHR199X
    @RHR199X 2 года назад +12

    I swear you post videos about stuff right as I’m thinking about them

    • @Copper.Trees.
      @Copper.Trees. 2 года назад +5

      I have actually had the exact same thought.

  • @ernststravoblofeld
    @ernststravoblofeld 2 года назад +2

    Lately I've come to embrace and appreciate the lack of unity. It's good to see I'm not alone. Thanks.

  • @Polylovelingo124
    @Polylovelingo124 2 года назад +5

    I call myself a communist, but frankly, I am I tired of seeing people fight about these vague labels. I am exhausted by all the intellectual posturing. I am far more
    concerned with all the things you stated near the end of your video. I'm here to build and support community, establish coalitions, live by my principles and help others unlock their imaginations.

  • @boognewsnetwork7620
    @boognewsnetwork7620 2 года назад +2

    Anyone who is not Authoritarian, should be able to work together. Anyone who is against having a state should be able to form a coalition.

    • @bdarecords_
      @bdarecords_ Год назад +2

      That sounds weird. You don't have to oppose the concept of a state to be anti-authoritarian. Surely, there are essential differences between european communists and asian maoists. I may be arrogant/a bit ignorant but when I look at european discourse and how anarchists and socialists work together and see what people write online, well... I just find it infantile, no offense meant.

    • @davielobo4514
      @davielobo4514 9 месяцев назад

      good luck on your revolution, im sure many anarchist revolutions have already been successful😹

    • @cement_eater
      @cement_eater 3 месяца назад

      ​@@novinceinhosic3531 *most taxation is theft. Income tax & property tax must be abolished, both within the framework of capitalism and after

    • @cement_eater
      @cement_eater 3 месяца назад

      @@davielobo4514 you some subspecies of leninist? shades of eric andre shooting hannibal

  • @TheLunarnaut
    @TheLunarnaut 2 года назад +2

    Very important video, especially for people new to "the left." Well done!

  • @bengoodchild883
    @bengoodchild883 2 года назад +1

    Loving it. I've often run into this unity idea trap myself, and know many people who have as well. Time to share widely!
    Its been nice to find more specific terms to describe my own views through content such as yours and my beginnings in reading theory.
    Have a great day :)

  • @maryanne1830
    @maryanne1830 2 года назад

    I saw the title and thought it would be a vid about trying to knit together the mess of The Left. I'm so glad you posted that update with a little description BC I almost skipped this one! Nice work as always 🙂

  • @numonefranbegbiefan
    @numonefranbegbiefan 2 года назад +5

    Great video, you've really out done yourself!

  • @ormapa1206
    @ormapa1206 Год назад +2

    I'm really glad you mentioned the Spanish civil war. I'm from there and it was truly sad what happened and we lost the war due to many problems and led to a dictatorship that lasted to long and it still has prominence in the country even year after the dictator died.

  • @3rdWorldMiss
    @3rdWorldMiss Год назад +1

    Rare to get political thought crystallised like this, and it's just free on the internet, concise too. Thank you for this video 🖤

  • @londubh2007
    @londubh2007 2 года назад +3

    "I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." -Will Rogers

  • @burtonsankeralli5445
    @burtonsankeralli5445 7 месяцев назад +2

    The Party the United Front and the People's Army...

  • @enr4g3dhippie
    @enr4g3dhippie Год назад +2

    I like to view left disunity as a sort of neverending, internal critical discussion of how to best represent leftist ideals.

  • @oddjam
    @oddjam 2 года назад +2

    Excellent. Thanks for making this comrade

  • @starfai
    @starfai 2 года назад +1

    i love all of your vids but this is probably one of my favorites so far! great stuff as always

  • @Dr.Gehrig
    @Dr.Gehrig 2 года назад +5

    A well timed video. Something I was just thinking and talking about today. Unfortunately we do, or at least should, have the same goal of stopping the climate crisis from going full on apocalypse. I fear not even that will bring us together though... too many pet causes that are not solving the climate crisis getting in the way. Thank you for your perspective though, this issue needs much thought.

  • @CplusO2
    @CplusO2 2 года назад +1

    Super important topic , thank you. To understand why the right is united and the left never will be may I suggest "the divided brain" by Iain McGilchrist. Broadly the right is about focus and cancelling out that which is not relevant to it, the left on the other hand is about seeking the unknown and forming meaning. There is a lot to unpack here, understanding the way our own brains- emphasis on the (s) function is a massive relief from the circular arguments around ideology. The idea of solarpunk for instance seems to be about joining around and aesthetic more than an ideology Love your work.

  • @s.e.m.7767
    @s.e.m.7767 2 года назад +1

    This was great, I've been thinking a lot about this lately. Thank you!

  • @insaneoking
    @insaneoking 2 года назад +2

    Your perspectives are really helpful

  • @Pontusistaken
    @Pontusistaken 2 года назад +3

    I think the term left and right wing just makes sense for capitalist ideologies. For ideologies that want to abolish capitalism it doesn't make sense. For reasons you so well described.

  • @furaitaro3422
    @furaitaro3422 2 года назад

    i just found your channel but it makes me feel so at home. This video really sums up why I have felt so uncomfortable in leftist spaces... it's because there are so many contradicting leftist idealogies here to begin with, while each one assumes theirs is the "true" leftist way. I've never found someone else express my own viewpoints like you do and it has been very eye-opening and validating haha. I just want to help my community improve, not wait for a Revolution

  • @vortex_master
    @vortex_master 2 года назад +5

    I like the facial hair, bro

  • @MagusMirificus
    @MagusMirificus 2 года назад +22

    I dunno; I feel like this doesn't need to be so hard. I'm committed to anticapitalism, democracy, and intersectionality. I wouldn't consider someone my ally if they didn't believe in all three, but anyone who believes in at least one has common ground enough with me that I'll take the time to talk to them. I feel like "Oppose hierarchy, recognize that hierarchy is complex and that economic exploitation is neither the only evil nor a tolerable one, don't undervalue human rights to make abolishing hierarchy easier because that doesn't seem to work out, don't be too queasy or too eager about revolution, and be willing to do the boring gruntwork of both grassroots organization and electoral infiltration" really isn't THAT esoteric of a political philosophy, and I think any self-described leftist community too stubborn to unite with the rest under a banner more or less equivalent to that probably doesn't have much to contribute to the overall project anyway. I maintain some hope for at least the nascent left of our bourgeoisie western democracies to rally behind some version of that program eventually.

    • @MagusMirificus
      @MagusMirificus 2 года назад +7

      @USERZ123 Uh, I didn't say any of that? I don't support imperialism in Afghanistan, I don't support basing black liberation around white comfort, and while I do detest the ostensibly socialist 20th century Eurasian states I don't think of them as terrifically *more* authoritarian than most western democracies; maybe slightly, but in terms of the true freedom of the proletariat I think no developed state has made very far past square 1.
      Not to tell you how to lefty or anything, or, you know, engage in factionalism, but the fact that you detected a lack of fervent support for Marxism-Leninism in my ideology and that it actively bothered you enough that you assumed I was basically a liberal and accused me of all the standard White Moderate social positions doesn't bode terribly well for any of your future attempts at coalition-building. Just sayin'.

    • @MagusMirificus
      @MagusMirificus 2 года назад

      @USERZ123 @USERZ123 You may have noticed that I stated my hope for leftists *in Western bourgeois democracies* to unite behind those principles eventually. Things get messier in the developing world and the former eastern block, and we'll need to have conversations about supporting international workers' movements with troubling views on democracy and women and lots of other stuff, but WE can afford to rule out that stuff on principle and make it clear that we will be unhappy with it whenever it arises, even if it isn't always a deal-breaker. I'm totally fine with adapting my tactics to the situation; it's adapting my principles I take issue with, which is what leads to the hyper-moral-relativist "Every society is doing what they think is best, so we should only criticize America" attitude that infests Twitter. I dunno; still not really seeing the issue here, except that people tend not to act like grownups. If the internet found out it was possible to support something without condoning everything about it--whether that's a struggling socialist project or Bernie Sanders--none of this would be an issue.

  • @felooosailing957
    @felooosailing957 Год назад +2

    "I shit on all the revolutionary vanguards of this planet", said the man who shat on the organizations that were already there, sold out comrades, sold out armed struggle itself, and was the leading force in shaping the Zapatista "liberated" regions as tourist venues for "Leftist"-curious people and engaged academics, all the while becoming basically a TV personality and successful published author and opinion haver. Marcos betrayed the people he was supposed to represent. Do not vouch for opportunism just because it paints its drapes in Black.

  • @matheusbawden8678
    @matheusbawden8678 7 месяцев назад

    You really gave me an insight as for how in the world one "wing" of the politics is united and the other is almost as split as a fractal. One of the wings desires to nothing to change. The other wishes to change the way things are. To stay the same is a simple unique goal, to change something you must first agree to what you want it to change and because of this many people will diverge. Thank you

  • @byronlopezellington8839
    @byronlopezellington8839 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely fantastic video, thank you so much for this

  • @eraserheadpssy
    @eraserheadpssy 2 года назад

    thank god, ive been feeling this sentiment for a very long time. thank you for putting it into words! great video, as always

  • @DeadEndFrog
    @DeadEndFrog 2 года назад +3

    pluralism should be obvious if we are a plurality of peoples, which seems to be irrefutable, given by the very fact that people who refute it simply affirm a plurality between them and the ones they disagree with.
    unification is only valid as long as it isn't forced upon you, and then we have to ask how one achives unification without forceing it? By letting it happen, or not. And so far, people don't want it to happen. Then we should attempt to live that way.

  • @jits8767
    @jits8767 2 года назад +5

    In the Netherlands, there is a housing crisis. I bet everyone on the left agrees about that. There are local demonstrations being organised. However, there was one organised by local political parties, instead of independent organisation. As a result, some other political groups did not show up, because they did not agree with this arrangement. But that is just strange to me, because the thing that we are trying to do is raise awareness of the housing crisis. There were also anarchists present, bless them, but everytime someone from a political party spoke, they would sound a clown's horn. I guess I don't agree with them, because I don't think it is productive to work against honest meaning leftists who also cannot afford housing, but I do agree with them about squatting rights, and I think being present means that you should voice your own opinions. For them that means fighting any form of government. Showing up means defending you principles, not abandoning them. What I mean, is that okay, maybe 10 socialists in a room all voice 20 different opinions, but at least it's better than if all the socialists decided to stay at home. While the discussion might be exhausting, it needs to take place. You need to understand the balance of working together productively, and being critical enough that change is possible. You can't do cancel culture in real life, you actually need to face injustice.

  • @47riley47
    @47riley47 2 года назад +1

    Much love 🕉️♥️ thanks for the well made video

  • @tylerlynch2849
    @tylerlynch2849 2 года назад +1

    My god man, your work is a breath of fresh air in this wasteland!

  • @GynxShinx
    @GynxShinx Год назад +1

    0:38 The left will never be a monolith, but it should be united.
    9:44 That's how you make something new.