Drawabox Lesson 1, Exercise 4: Things to Remember (Tables of Ellipses)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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While we explored the Tables of Ellipses exercise in the previous video, here we go back over some of the key points you should be keeping in mind when going through this exercise.
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Something I found helps is ghosting the entire 'follow through'. Since the goal is to draw the ellipse twice, I ghost going around twice, then pause for a moment, then repeat, sort of like a heartbeat rhythm. That makes it feel more natural to draw it exactly twice once the pen actually hits the page.
Yep, that's something I learned with the Ghosted Lines exercise.
More broadly, it's not about basically doing sketches in the air but ghosting, I find at least, is about going through every last, little motion of making a mark just very slightly off of the page so you only make the mark when the motion has become effectively thoughtless.
It’s absolutely incredible that you have so much high quality content available for free. These lessons are excellent
17/06/22 everyday doing one exercise of everything I need to do, thank you for making this possible and free!
Thank You very much Uncomfortable. Are there any other websites like yours where others like you are offering this much knowledge for free ?
Unfortunately I don't really keep track of other websites that do things in a similar way. I'm sure they're out there, but you'll probably have more luck by asking others.
ctrl paint is one good website, but it is focused more on digital art.
I tried this lesson before the new videos, but gave up and I've only just started again. That may have been the best plan haha
I Fr tried draw a box and stopped😂
Might give it another go this summer
How's it going?
Bummer dude. Less for you more for us 😊
My problem is, I can't decide whether to draw the ellipses clockwise or anti-clockwise..
these lessons are awesome. just are.
thank you! This is really helping me upgrade my lacking foundation.
I find smaller ellipses harder. Maybe it's hard to get that finer control with my shoulder?
It is entirely normal to find smaller marks harder to execute. It's for that reason that we simply need more practice to get used to engaging our whole arm from the shoulder when drawing those smaller lines and ellipses. It will get easier with mileage and experience.
Also, be sure to use the ghosting method for those marks as well. When they're smaller, we have a tendency to spend less time preparing for them than we should.
You're the bestoooooo
i love you kiersten, nice ellipses dude
Perfectionism
I tried this exercise for a bit and found an observation. Are we allowed to put marks on the page? A dot on the points where the eclipse touch helps me visualize during the ghosting method.
Putting the odd little point down is entirely fine. Not strictly necessary, but it definitely leans into the ghosting method's "planning" phase where we determine the specific properties of the mark we wish to make.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification.
i think that the people that disliked this video fail the course
I keep overshooting the edges, and while i do it fast, it looks like the "no" oval...
Does the direction you use to draw the ellipses matter? I see you´re doing it counterclockwise while I try to do it clockwise (sorry for the stupid question)
No, you're fine drawing your ellipses in whatever direction you find most comfortable.
So umm Uncomfortable I finished this exercise but I am not satisfied with how it looks
The eclipses are having those sharp edges. Should I do this exercise one more time?
Maybe, maybe not. But the decision shouldn't be left up to you, because you (and everyone else) will always lean more towards doing another page. Instead, in this course we complete the assigned pages for each exercise to the best of our current ability, and when it's all done, we get others to look at our work for us (either through free community feedback or paid official critique), so they can tell us what we do understand, what we don't understand (and explaining those things again), and whether we are good to continue moving forwards (while incorporating the exercise into your regular warmup routine), or if we need to do additional pages of certain exercises to show that we understood the explanations correctly.
This gives us access to someone who is likely to be more objective, so we don't accidentally get trapped in a loop of grinding an exercise aimlessly.
@@Uncomfortable thank you I will ask in discord if the homework was good to continue
My arm hurts lol
yo
I am seeing some movement around your wrists (pivot)
Why must it be tight and the edges must be touching the ellipse?
Because that is the point of the exercise. To improve both accuracy and confidence.
Thank you Uncomfortable for this huge amount of knowledge! I am on lesson 3 already and what you teach really help me a lot to draw a better :D
Thank you so much for the free education . So structured. , so detailed. I am at lesson 1 , Ellipses , doing everything that was said in 'lesson 0' , reading as well as watching videos , following all instructions . Hope to see improvements by the time I come to the end of these lessons😁. Ty once again for all your effort .
Update 14.08.2021 - still going strong lesson 2 organic intersections 🔥🤗
Hows your improvement?
@@bushidoh8316 well getting better every day , have started noticing little little things.
Haven't drawn in a week , busy schedule but now whenever I start ,not afraid to sketch , ik I will get there hehe
@@aqualolaquintecent9553 Awesome. I'm still at lesson 1 and hoping to get better
@@bushidoh8316 you will , jus keep going as instructed 👍🏻
@@aqualolaquintecent9553 thanks man
I was struggling with confidence in my ellipses at first and managed to fix it by picking up speed and thinking in my head the words "Beeaaauuutiful ellipse" whenever I was drawing them out. For some reason drawing ellipses used to make me anxious and that little mantra fixed it. Perhaps it was because making a perfect ellipse freehand is nigh impossible?
I did the same to make more perfect circles. I started thinking to myself “round”, “round”, “circle” and dang it sure worked.
I discovered drawabox at 2020 but couldn't focus to it. This time I am gonna make real progress. (03.02.23)
where are you now ?
@@toham2137 Sadly not much progress. I am at the last exercise of lesson 1. I want to do this course but I have other stuff that I need to fix
I cant wait till you get to the perspective segment!
Feels like I had a breakthrough doing these exercises. I stopped hesitating after doing the ghosting with the ellipses and kept doing the same movement but lowered the pen slightly onto the paper. I know that's the way the course teaches doing it, but when I first took the course and dropped it I would do the ghosting too fast and then pause for a second instead of continuing the momentum from the ghosting. I hope this is a permanent breakthrough, looking forward to continuing to improve my abilities as the course continues
Should the ghosting be slower?
@@sulynncho9299 For me the biggest difference was not hesitating so much between the act of ghosting and drawing the actual line on the paper. I think slower ghosting can help too. I'm currently 100 boxes in on the 250 box challenge and I think the best thing you can do is try a bunch of different slight changes and see what differences they make and adopt what works for you. I've also changed the angle of my grip and the grip itself a few times, which can work for different situations and has helped improve my accuracy.
thank you so much sensei for the knowledge!!
I think it’s kinda funny how he has just a hint of more seriousness in this vid than the previous one like he’s seen too many people messing this one up.
Let's give it a try! Thank you for all the knowledge you're sharing :)
thank you for the demonstration, much appreciated.
Uncomfortable, are you sure about this drawing every single eclipse exactly twice? You don't really cite why this is a good idea or any source for it
It simply helps students to better focus on the primary priority of confidence and engaging the whole arm, so as to achieve a more even shape, rather than getting caught up in the accuracy of the ellipse.
Throughout this course you're going to run into a lot of places where I give instruction without elaborating on why. This is generally in the case of minor things (of which there are many, and elaborating on each one individually would swell this already dense course well beyond what is reasonable). There's also something to be said about what I mention in Lesson 0, in regards to discouraging min-maxing and the tendency for students to *need* to understand first before they're willing to attempt the exercises.
While I don't expect everyone to agree with this approach, I've found avoiding over-explaining in areas that do not warrant it to be in most students' best interest.
The legend
I'm having problems with the "resistance" of the paper with my hand
have you ever met anyone who is physically incapable of drawing an ellipse????
WELL NOW YOU HAVE
well it definitely sounds like you don't have much confidence in your strokes. that's a very important thing to have. are you using your shoulder?
handicap people who don't have any appendages what so evern are physically incapable of drawing ellipses. or if you have any medical conditions like shaky hands or something. sure thatd be unfortunate and it won't be your fault. but if that's not the case, stop using this excuse and start practicing.
are we supposed to do the line exercises daily? As in, the first lessons? Or do we just move on and continue through the lessons?
You can review these notes on warmups from Lesson 0: drawabox.com/lesson/0/3/warmups
Just keep in mind that the exercises you're doing here won't go into your "warmup pool" until you've finished the lesson and received your critique. So as you work through Lesson 1, you won't be doing warmups, but you will start doing the Lesson 1 exercises as part of a regular warmup routine once you move onto the 250 box challenge, having had Lesson 1 marked as complete.
Anyone here in 2024
No we all died