The jerrycan was prized by the British in the desert war. They called their own fuel cans "flimsies" and used captured jerrycans whenever they could get them. The British cans would leak and break due to the day night temperature changes in the desert and rough handling, and every drop of water and fuel was precious. The name and design of the jerrycan (copied by Americans and British) is pretty much unchanged to this day. Sometimes German "over engineering" paid dividends for its soldiers!
But that's the thing, the Jerry Can wasn't "over engineered," it was engineered almost perfectly. Over-engineering means overly complex and delicate systems where simpler and more durable/reliable would be better. The Jerry Can was simple and durable at the same time.
Back in the day, horse carriages carried a bucket of tar in the back to lubricate bushings. In ex-USSR it's still popular to strap a tiny keyring sized burcket to the back of a car as an amulet. Maybe German soldiers carried buckets for the same reason.
As much as I love to hear that she recognized it, there were parts of that show that all but caused me physical pain with the creative liberties taken with the tank model performances lol
Good to see Mr Doyle. And indeed, the "Jerry can" was an important bit of gear. The British moved fuel in a tin container that was poorly built and leaked enormous amounts of vital fuel. Remember that the British either had to push convoys through the hostile Med or send them the long way around Cape. The British first encountered the German version, and quickly realized its superior design. They sent off examples for copying.
@chris younts The swastika has been around since forever, in pretty much all cultures in a form or another, it's really not only a nazi symbol, and it's not backwards
He said "the Russian crew" insisted that the swastika be covered. They passed a law in Russia a few years ago forbidding the display of "Nazi propaganda". Apparently due to the law even things like the graphic novel "Maus" had to be taken off bookshelves because it had a swastika on the cover.
Yes!! The one I’ve waited for! The Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf H late production is my favorite tank, period. I realize this is a G early, (actually it’s a early factory upgraded with mid details post production), but I consider it close to the H, minus the hull side driver and radio operator viewports, schürzen and small details. A clarification from the video. The rubber return rollers were indeed used through the Ausf.H Lates and even some Early J’s. The Mid and Late J’s are when the rubber return rollers really disappeared. This beauty was likely finished as a G early and earmarked by O-K for the East at production. It was likely halted in training, prior to deployment, and sent back to Vomag or an advanced field shop for its auf G mid production upgrades and it’s “new” paint for the Afrika Korps. It’s fascinating the story these tell from the details. I believe this was originally painted in RAL 8020, having been factory applied post March 1942 when the switch from RAL 7028 and RAL 8000 moved to the lighter shade of RAL 8020. I consider the IV Ausf H the late war and the III Ausf F/G upgrade the early war workhorses when I picture the standard German Panzer. Great video.
Here's a short artical. Ofnthe history of teh "jerry can" if anyone's interested The Germans developed in 1937 what was known at the time as a Wehrmacht-Einheitskanister which quite literally meant “Armed Forces Unit Canister.” Clearly, the Germans weren’t trying to brand this canister in any specific manner, nor were there trying to beat around the bush in its intended purpose - i.e. keeping the tanks fueled and ready at a moment’s notice. “Jerrycan” comes from the American US Forces slang term “Jerry” for Germans. From here, leave it to the Americans to find a shortcut to the name (taken from the American US Forces slang term “Jerry” for Germans) as well as adopt the cans for their own use - compliments of American engineer Paul Pleiss who first came across the cans while journeying by road to India in 1939. He and his German engineer colleague were short on emergency water for the trip. They then came across a stockpile of jerrycans at the Berlin Tempelhof Airport and managed to get their hands on three of them. After the trip, making it safely across 11 international borders, Pleiss then flew back home to Philadelphia where he informed the American military about the can. Ironically enough, it raised little interest without a tangible sample. And why would they? The Allied Forces at the time had their own fuel canisters to offer. However, they were no match for German engineering. Instead, the Allied versions were made from thin mild steel that was welded together and easily punctured - leading to fuel leaks. Also, a wrench was required to remove the cap in order to access the fuel inside, also not ideal. They were also poorly designed and required a funnel and a spout as well.
If the Germans had concentrated on building PZIVs and forgot about Tigers & Panthers, 1944, 1944 and 1945 would have been very different. It would not have changed the final result (they still ran out of petrol and suffered Allied Air Supremacy but it would have been a very different battle environment.
Well, how many competitors are there? Even if every other German-built panzer (it's a panzer, not a "tank") was better than it, it would still be in the top ten, because there simply aren't ten more panzers TO be superior to it, even if you count the Maus as a panzer. If it isn't one of the worst, it is one of the best. The only panzers that one is likely to argue are superior to the IV (although 'best' can be defined a lot of ways besides being the best at killing enemy tanks) are the Pz V, VI, and VII. So clearly the IV is fourth best, at the very worst. It simply cannot be anything but one of the best.
I've been wondering when they were going to update the Mk IV video. Challenger's not bad and all, but Chieftain has really done a terrific job expanding the format and improving the quality of the programs. The Mk IV has always been my favorite German tank from WWII, and I've been anxious to hear Chieftain's take on it. And to have Mr. Doyle participating ... there's only one word that will do: AWESOME!!! Thanks Chieftain!
The 82,000 tons of steel used to make Bismarck and Tirpitz could have gone into over three thousand 25 ton Panzer IVs, or for that matter thousands of trucks to keep the Panzer IVs supplied with fuel, ammunition and spares.
For those wondering what the blacked off area was it is the symbol of the nazi government that is banned by the nation of Germany. You are not allowed to show that symbol at all. For those wondering Paradox faced that issue with their forums and the game Hearts of Iron. They made it a forum rule not to upload any pictures of the game with the actual flag of Germany used during the war. They also did not use that flag in the game either.
'Oh bugger, the tank is on fire!" Hilary Doyle: springs out like a leprechaun jumping on a pub bar. Nick: cooks in tank as leg wrapped around tiller😜 WW2 tanking a short arsed game!
Few countries where the video couldn't be shown if they hadn't like Germany (where hammer and sickle is also banned if its referring to a German organisation) and Russia where its been illegal since 2014 to show Nazi symbols or ideas that suggest Russians aren't superior (for example a women was imprisoned for mentioning the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact while another for publishing a photograph showing SS troops occupying her house).
Mine too. Apart from simply looking good. It is impressive how it played an important role all through the war 39 to 45. There were never enough of them despite being the most numerous German tank. Had it been produced in larger numbers at the expense of some other projects. With even more upgrades in protection, firepower and tactics. Who knows how things may have turned out? With full hindsight, probably a good thing they didn't build more and wasted resources on "other projects."
@@gusgone4527 lmao yeah. not only did it win the allies the war, but it also gave us an advancement in technology. we can thank the germans for the jet engine, better feul system for planes, and most importantly, bad ass tanks. well, and with the war canada was forced to industrialise. canada is prolly the only war birthed by politeness, raised by blood lmao
@@gusgone4527 Depending I would say from late 42 to the start of 43 on wards no, Germany would have needed more men, equipment, supply's with more tanks that's also one of the biggest reasons they like the bigger more survivable tanks. Germany biggest problem would have bean fuel for all the extra tanks you still need to supply them so more supply trucks would mean less tanks and a lot more sitting ducks and abandonments, now that did happen mostly later in the war due to a combination of fuel and the bombing campaign but it would have bean small comparable to the losses Germany would have had had they had more panzer 4s. Also the upgrades that were not added would have kept them about even with allied tanks which they were anyway or just in the lead but for how long. But I believe your idea is great from 1938 to 1942 but Germany needed to do three more very important things in order. 1st. Germany only started to fully mobilised behind the war in what mid 43, this didn't really take effect till 44. Germany three biggest enemy's UK, USSR, USA were all ready there in mid 42 to the start of 43 at the latest. That's also why in 1944 Germany production was increased by about 2x to 3x 1943 levels yet was almost crippled by bombing the same year. 2nd. Synthetic fuel production / factory's set up all ready at 1944 levels in 1938 to 1940 this would have made Germany completely self sufficiently at the start of the war and aloud for it to stay that way assuming it increased it from there. Germany pre ww2 consumption was 44million barrels a year, 1944 synthetic production was about 44.4million barrels a massive increases from its starting 9million barrels at the start of the war. 3rd. Air dominance this is simple it would have aloud supply lines to work, industry to reach there goals in production, there enemy would have had a lot more problems Etc. From 1940 to the end of 1943 the UK, and USA dropped about 300,000 tons of bombs on Germany but in 1944 it was almost 900,000 tons with about 500,000 more in 45.
@@PalleRasmussen Palle, I'm not claiming that alone, more Pziv would have won the war. What I am saying is the more resource conscious approach to EVERYTHING, would have helped them in the long term. That includes assigning more thought to fuel supply issues and perhaps a better synthetic alternative. Germany's primary resource was it's scientific, technical and engineering prowess. Had that been focused with the usual Germanic efficiency ... ... ... do you follow. The entire argument is academic. Thank Santa Claus, God and the Tooth Fairy the NAZIS were incapable of working that efficiently. I don't like goosestepping it hurts my hips.
I absolutely love the collaborations there's so many little tid bits of interesting information you get from the historians! It's amazing! Keep up the great work!😁
Tracklinks, sandbags, logs for extra armor are roughly equal to 5mm rolled steel. logs not so much but these were also meant to detonate inbound hollow charges early.
@@lbhammers4841 if you're going to carry extra track links anyway (to repair broken track) and a log or two (to get out of mud) might as well put them where they could do some good. It's the little things that can make a big difference!
The video has existed for a few years, it just took them that long to edit them. Wargaming itself has little interest in continuing this series, they just want the extra revenue they can squeeze out of what they already made of these. The Chieftain himself is going to try continuing the series himself, over on his Patreon channel.
My son is totally into Tanks and Airplanes in the Moment. He collects and Playa with the Cobi Toys Tanks and Co a lot. A good way to Talk about History and war with him. And with your Videos it's also easy to make him listen to english spoken Text...Bonuspoints. Thanks for your Work and effort!
yes these series helps me in WOT, for a interest in tanks they have in the game too try after watching these videos. Best of luck on more videos coming. As i play WOT and yes i have the Panzer 4 in the game.
Hoping that WG would just do away with their planned changes on HE. I do have both the PZ 4 with the derp but also the other PZ 4 with the different drive system using the the standard gun.
Several hours late to watching but what a great collaboration! Thank you Mr. Doyle for the special appearance! For the bean counters, I've been playing WoT: Blitz for four, four and a half, years.
Look up the "Think Tank" YT videos from 2012. They go on for hours with panelists including Hillary Doyle, David Fletcher, and authors who have written dozens of great tank book series. Epic!
Hello there, thank you for your knowledge about the history about tanks. I really enjoy your chats about tanks especially the German tanks. They seen to be very substantial and seen to be slow too. When I watched the RUclips prorammes relating to museum in England and they had been going around the track with other tanks especially the tiger the 131 numbers on it. I do like the tank chats from you and others. I do like when you people chosen 10 tanks you guys chosen. Thank you for and keep up good work mate.
Excellent video - I much prefer this format. I've been a German tank enthusiast for decades and I learnt a few things I didn't know from this video, so well done.
Great to see these two tank gurus work in tandem together! I certainly would love to see them go over the new «scratchbuilt» Panzer IV Ausf H that Panzerfrabrik just released a few weeks ago...
Panzer IV, the German Sherman, still lethal right up to the end of the war and after, serving in other conflicts. Call me a Monday morning quarterback but they should've limited tank production to this and the Panther. Great video as always.
The bucket in the back is for the strategy of makeing the tank look like its been hit and on fire (by burning wood )to trick the allies. It did not always work but it did.
They actually, sadly, have to block it in places like Germany, Poland, and other nations because symbols like the Swastika are federally banned, in Poland for pretty justifiable reasons, and Germany cause they're pretty disgraced about their history. ALso, yes, I know I'm 10 months late but just wanted to say somethin'.
I started playing world of tanks before I discovered these videos. But this series perks my interest up in playing the game some more from time to time. I hope WoT doesn't cut the funding as this is some of the best content on RUclips.
I know this guy who is really into tanks and basically he plays WoT all the time when not at work. It's not for me because of my eyes but it's an awesome game in his opinion!
Mr Doyle and Chieftain thank you very much . So many great little Details . It was nice of you to show us how to tension the track , it is so Important that we know how it was done . Question , does the Tall Guy sound like he has more of an accent in this video ?
The Panzer IV H Is one of my favorit Tanks in the world of tanks! its took me 3 days of gaming or some 9 hours in totalt. to get my beloved Panzer IV H who I had dubbed Loraley. To day I had played this game on and off for 2 years. :-) AND I LOVE IT! (-:
I once heard from some where, I can't remember where now, that some of the buckets actual had the bottoms cut out and that they where turned upside down over a hole they had dug or not as the case may be and where use to sit on when going to the toilet, i served foe 20 years ans at the very start of my service we still had one or two old storemen or general Service Hands (GSH) and Limited Service Volunteers (LSV), that had served in 1939 to 1945, around i have been in the bush a few times and would find, not having to squat over a hole a lot more comfortable but I would never deliberately carry a buck into the bush for that. Anybody heard something similar ?
Also on the note of getting the game: I can 10/10 recommend that if you like these videos then you'll love the game because it's absolutely beautiful. The physics are beautiful and you actually feel the pros and cons of the tanks as you use them in combat! I love it and I love this channel so for those of you on the fence? Just do it!
i play the game on steam and xbox360 and xbox one. found out about this channel through the game, so the advertisement worked the other way round. i must say, i enjoy these videos more than the game xD
Ask the Chieftain himself. He is going to be making new videos on his Patreon platform. The videos you see now are old productions that have just now been newly edited and released for public consumption. WarGaming is cutting the series after all videos are released, and transitioning to new advertising methods for their games.
The bulge at the top of the jerry can is designed to trap air. This serves two functions; 1, it allows some space for the fuel to expand into, and, it is enough air so that a fully filled can will float in water (it helps that petrol is less dense than water)
unfortunately, being an online game company, Wargaming really has to cover their asses to avoid the internet ire of snowflakes/woketards. Those idiots will try to claim you are a "nazi sympathizer" for simply showing a swastika in a correct historical setting, they really will. Also it would go against German laws and possibly put the kibosh on Wargaming operating in Germany.
Great to see two Irish lads going round the Munster Ireland Tank Museum ! Or do I have it wrong ? Bjezzus! Fellow Irishman, allowed to make the craic, the rest of you no. Seriously enjoyed this and resubscribed and thanks to you and Hilary (Sites)? Are there no German experten these days ? Great video and quality content !
@@AdamMann3D just a standard one then? because that back rack looks like 1 of the 3 that a maultier would have. It doesn't look at all like a standard schutzenpanzerwagen.
They changed the music and it is quieter, thank you.
I actually like the old music.
I appreciate the quieter version as well. Still get to hear it but not as distracting.
Why do we need it at all, people are speaking.
Stewart Ross right? Who needs music?
It took them how many years to do this? We've been complaining since the start, and they listen now.
"i never thought I'd review a tank side by side with the chieftain..." "How about side by side with a friend?" "Aye, laddie...aye."
Lotr
Nice
i SEEN a SWASTIKA AND NOW i AM TRIGGERED to hate the tribe
Nobody tosses a Doyle!
...I can do that... Can't disrespect Doyle
19:44 "They made it as kampfy as they could.."
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I'm sorry, but the timestamp was too good to pass up on.
Fate
Jawohl, junge.
The jerrycan was prized by the British in the desert war. They called their own fuel cans "flimsies" and used captured jerrycans whenever they could get them. The British cans would leak and break due to the day night temperature changes in the desert and rough handling, and every drop of water and fuel was precious. The name and design of the jerrycan (copied by Americans and British) is pretty much unchanged to this day. Sometimes German "over engineering" paid dividends for its soldiers!
But that's the thing, the Jerry Can wasn't "over engineered," it was engineered almost perfectly. Over-engineering means overly complex and delicate systems where simpler and more durable/reliable would be better. The Jerry Can was simple and durable at the same time.
@@horsemumbler1It's simple in concept, but still a rather complex piece of engineering.
Old legend, new legend. The day that the tankcommunity exploded. (Only missing a surprise visit by Mr. Fletcher)
That will probably happen in part 2 on this tank.😂
@@jefferyindorf699 One can but hope
Talk about spoilt for choice if that happened.
The arrival of the EPIC MOUSTACHE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will probably in the driver's compartment when both of em will enter for Part 2.
The Pz. III's and IV's are such clearly underappreciated tanks. Everybody just talks about "muh armour, muh slopes, muh guns".
Back in the day, horse carriages carried a bucket of tar in the back to lubricate bushings. In ex-USSR it's still popular to strap a tiny keyring sized burcket to the back of a car as an amulet. Maybe German soldiers carried buckets for the same reason.
My 13 yo daughter just walked in and asked, "Is that a Panzer IV?" 😊😊 I'm so proud.
Thank you Girls Und Panzers
I still have the GuP panzer iv from the event years ago
I'll take shit that never happened for $100
Trully, a girl of culture.
You raised her right. 👍
As much as I love to hear that she recognized it, there were parts of that show that all but caused me physical pain with the creative liberties taken with the tank model performances lol
For his age Hilary is really fit! I bet he will write many more books.
really pleased that someone listened to our gripes on turned down the music....thanks.
Good to see Mr Doyle. And indeed, the "Jerry can" was an important bit of gear. The British moved fuel in a tin container that was poorly built and leaked enormous amounts of vital fuel. Remember that the British either had to push convoys through the hostile Med or send them the long way around Cape. The British first encountered the German version, and quickly realized its superior design. They sent off examples for copying.
This container was, very reassuringly, referred to as a "Flimsy". And it was.
Don't you just love a great piece of design?
A great tank expert (Moran) treating an even greater tank expert (Doyle) with utmost deference. What a great example of humility!
Yes! Moran acted perfectly, asking questions when needed and beyond that he just let Doyle talk.
Edit: grammar
I have waited long for this day.
L43-long, actually.
Ahhh i like what you did there
L48
It's awkward how the further we get away in time from ww2 the more sensitive we appear to be to the swastika shown in historical context...
@chris younts The swastika has been around since forever, in pretty much all cultures in a form or another, it's really not only a nazi symbol, and it's not backwards
@chris younts Talk to the Navajo Indians they were using them WAY before Germany.
He said "the Russian crew" insisted that the swastika be covered. They passed a law in Russia a few years ago forbidding the display of "Nazi propaganda". Apparently due to the law even things like the graphic novel "Maus" had to be taken off bookshelves because it had a swastika on the cover.
@@jeffreyswaney5435 swastika, one way or another, was around since almost start of decorating wares. Its just a simple concept, like wheel.
They want us to forget about the past because they're dying to repeat it.
Yes!! The one I’ve waited for!
The Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf H late production is my favorite tank, period. I realize this is a G early, (actually it’s a early factory upgraded with mid details post production), but I consider it close to the H, minus the hull side driver and radio operator viewports, schürzen and small details. A clarification from the video. The rubber return rollers were indeed used through the Ausf.H Lates and even some Early J’s. The Mid and Late J’s are when the rubber return rollers really disappeared.
This beauty was likely finished as a G early and earmarked by O-K for the East at production. It was likely halted in training, prior to deployment, and sent back to Vomag or an advanced field shop for its auf G mid production upgrades and it’s “new” paint for the Afrika Korps. It’s fascinating the story these tell from the details. I believe this was originally painted in RAL 8020, having been factory applied post March 1942 when the switch from RAL 7028 and RAL 8000 moved to the lighter shade of RAL 8020.
I consider the IV Ausf H the late war and the III Ausf F/G upgrade the early war workhorses when I picture the standard German Panzer. Great video.
Hillary Doyle, I feel like a little kid learning at the feet of a tank God!
The Jerry Can reminds me of how German ammo cans of the era were better than American because of the offset handles
GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK AGAIN CHIEFTAIN
It's finally here
The Panzermuseum in Munster, Germany is always worth a visit. With explanatory videos like this one even more.
Here's a short artical. Ofnthe history of teh "jerry can" if anyone's interested
The Germans developed in 1937 what was known at the time as a Wehrmacht-Einheitskanister which quite literally meant “Armed Forces Unit Canister.” Clearly, the Germans weren’t trying to brand this canister in any specific manner, nor were there trying to beat around the bush in its intended purpose - i.e. keeping the tanks fueled and ready at a moment’s notice. “Jerrycan” comes from the American US Forces slang term “Jerry” for Germans.
From here, leave it to the Americans to find a shortcut to the name (taken from the American US Forces slang term “Jerry” for Germans) as well as adopt the cans for their own use - compliments of American engineer Paul Pleiss who first came across the cans while journeying by road to India in 1939. He and his German engineer colleague were short on emergency water for the trip. They then came across a stockpile of jerrycans at the Berlin Tempelhof Airport and managed to get their hands on three of them. After the trip, making it safely across 11 international borders, Pleiss then flew back home to Philadelphia where he informed the American military about the can.
Ironically enough, it raised little interest without a tangible sample. And why would they? The Allied Forces at the time had their own fuel canisters to offer. However, they were no match for German engineering. Instead, the Allied versions were made from thin mild steel that was welded together and easily punctured - leading to fuel leaks. Also, a wrench was required to remove the cap in order to access the fuel inside, also not ideal. They were also poorly designed and required a funnel and a spout as well.
The mk 4 has always been my favourite tank that and KV 1 there's something beautiful and very organic about them
Finally! I’ve been wanting to see the Panzer IV. In my opinion, it’s one of the best German tanks of the war
If the Germans had concentrated on building PZIVs and forgot about Tigers & Panthers, 1944, 1944 and 1945 would have been very different. It would not have changed the final result (they still ran out of petrol and suffered Allied Air Supremacy but it would have been a very different battle environment.
The forgotten workhorse, much like the hurricane in the battle of Britain.
Well, how many competitors are there? Even if every other German-built panzer (it's a panzer, not a "tank") was better than it, it would still be in the top ten, because there simply aren't ten more panzers TO be superior to it, even if you count the Maus as a panzer. If it isn't one of the worst, it is one of the best. The only panzers that one is likely to argue are superior to the IV (although 'best' can be defined a lot of ways besides being the best at killing enemy tanks) are the Pz V, VI, and VII. So clearly the IV is fourth best, at the very worst. It simply cannot be anything but one of the best.
I've been wondering when they were going to update the Mk IV video. Challenger's not bad and all, but Chieftain has really done a terrific job expanding the format and improving the quality of the programs.
The Mk IV has always been my favorite German tank from WWII, and I've been anxious to hear Chieftain's take on it. And to have Mr. Doyle participating ... there's only one word that will do: AWESOME!!!
Thanks Chieftain!
The 82,000 tons of steel used to make Bismarck and Tirpitz could have gone into over three thousand 25 ton Panzer IVs, or for that matter thousands of trucks to keep the Panzer IVs supplied with fuel, ammunition and spares.
I just built that Bordor model's panzer 4 woth the slopped armour that was ment to be for the final version it's really something! Great kit!
At last. An L43 Long. The Tiger and Panther may get all the attention but the Panzer IV was the workhorse throughout the war.
Always nice to have the man who literally wrote the book to help with your reviews!
I've been waiting quite a while for the panzer IV. This is great. This vehicle was probably the most important tank in the German arsenal.
For those wondering what the blacked off area was it is the symbol of the nazi government that is banned by the nation of Germany. You are not allowed to show that symbol at all. For those wondering Paradox faced that issue with their forums and the game Hearts of Iron. They made it a forum rule not to upload any pictures of the game with the actual flag of Germany used during the war. They also did not use that flag in the game either.
'Oh bugger, the tank is on fire!"
Hilary Doyle: springs out like a leprechaun jumping on a pub bar.
Nick: cooks in tank as leg wrapped around tiller😜
WW2 tanking a short arsed game!
Wow that's hilarious, they covered up the friendship windmill
MrBlindcat1 What's under the black thing?
@@thestig2583 A wonder windmill who's image can drive some people hysterical, it's quite an interesting power.
So what?
Few countries where the video couldn't be shown if they hadn't like Germany (where hammer and sickle is also banned if its referring to a German organisation) and Russia where its been illegal since 2014 to show Nazi symbols or ideas that suggest Russians aren't superior (for example a women was imprisoned for mentioning the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact while another for publishing a photograph showing SS troops occupying her house).
@@thestig2583 - Look for the Buddhist Japanese symbol for Ban or Manji. Wan in Chinese.
Fantastic, Cant wait to learn about the Panzer IV, one of my all time favorite tanks. ^^
Mine too. Apart from simply looking good. It is impressive how it played an important role all through the war 39 to 45. There were never enough of them despite being the most numerous German tank. Had it been produced in larger numbers at the expense of some other projects. With even more upgrades in protection, firepower and tactics. Who knows how things may have turned out?
With full hindsight, probably a good thing they didn't build more and wasted resources on "other projects."
@@gusgone4527 lmao yeah. not only did it win the allies the war, but it also gave us an advancement in technology. we can thank the germans for the jet engine, better feul system for planes, and most importantly, bad ass tanks. well, and with the war canada was forced to industrialise. canada is prolly the only war birthed by politeness, raised by blood lmao
@@gusgone4527 Depending I would say from late 42 to the start of 43 on wards no, Germany would have needed more men, equipment, supply's with more tanks that's also one of the biggest reasons they like the bigger more survivable tanks.
Germany biggest problem would have bean fuel for all the extra tanks you still need to supply them so more supply trucks would mean less tanks and a lot more sitting ducks and abandonments, now that did happen mostly later in the war due to a combination of fuel and the bombing campaign but it would have bean small comparable to the losses Germany would have had had they had more panzer 4s.
Also the upgrades that were not added would have kept them about even with allied tanks which they were anyway or just in the lead but for how long.
But I believe your idea is great from 1938 to 1942 but Germany needed to do three more very important things in order.
1st. Germany only started to fully mobilised behind the war in what mid 43, this didn't really take effect till 44.
Germany three biggest enemy's UK, USSR, USA were all ready there in mid 42 to the start of 43 at the latest.
That's also why in 1944 Germany production was increased by about 2x to 3x 1943 levels yet was almost crippled by bombing the same year.
2nd. Synthetic fuel production / factory's set up all ready at 1944 levels in 1938 to 1940 this would have made Germany completely self sufficiently at the start of the war and aloud for it to stay that way assuming it increased it from there.
Germany pre ww2 consumption was 44million barrels a year, 1944 synthetic production was about 44.4million barrels a massive increases from its starting 9million barrels at the start of the war.
3rd. Air dominance this is simple it would have aloud supply lines to work, industry to reach there goals in production, there enemy would have had a lot more problems Etc.
From 1940 to the end of 1943 the UK, and USA dropped about 300,000 tons of bombs on Germany but in 1944 it was almost 900,000 tons with about 500,000 more in 45.
@@gusgone4527 they would not have fuel for more tanks anyway. Lack of oil cost Germany the war.
@@PalleRasmussen Palle, I'm not claiming that alone, more Pziv would have won the war. What I am saying is the more resource conscious approach to EVERYTHING, would have helped them in the long term. That includes assigning more thought to fuel supply issues and perhaps a better synthetic alternative.
Germany's primary resource was it's scientific, technical and engineering prowess. Had that been focused with the usual Germanic efficiency ... ... ... do you follow.
The entire argument is academic. Thank Santa Claus, God and the Tooth Fairy the NAZIS were incapable of working that efficiently. I don't like goosestepping it hurts my hips.
I absolutely love the collaborations there's so many little tid bits of interesting information you get from the historians! It's amazing! Keep up the great work!😁
Hilary Doyle, the Chieftain and a Panzer IV. Three in one package, what a great start of the day.
I love that the vehicle still looks brand new. Great work 👌
Tracklinks, sandbags, logs for extra armor are roughly equal to 5mm rolled steel. logs not so much but these were also meant to detonate inbound hollow charges early.
Yeah, if that’s what they’re used for, I think it’s mostly for helping with APHE and HE (though at high caliber it doesn’t matter)
@@lbhammers4841 if you're going to carry extra track links anyway (to repair broken track) and a log or two (to get out of mud) might as well put them where they could do some good. It's the little things that can make a big difference!
Ann Onymous no I fully agree! If they’re gonna be anywhere, might as well put em where you need em
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah, The amount of times I've searched for this video just to be disappointed it didn't exist yet.
Keep up the good work Chief!
The video has existed for a few years, it just took them that long to edit them. Wargaming itself has little interest in continuing this series, they just want the extra revenue they can squeeze out of what they already made of these.
The Chieftain himself is going to try continuing the series himself, over on his Patreon channel.
Always an outstanding video and presentation.
Mr Doyle is an absolute fascinating man with all the knowledge that he possesses. Great to see you doing a PzIV Inside the chieftains hatch again. :)
I've been so looking forward to the Chieftain doing the Pz IV but having Hillary Doyle along for it is just amazing! : ) Can't wait for part 2
My son is totally into Tanks and Airplanes in the Moment. He collects and Playa with the Cobi Toys Tanks and Co a lot.
A good way to Talk about History and war with him.
And with your Videos it's also easy to make him listen to english spoken Text...Bonuspoints.
Thanks for your Work and effort!
These two should do more videos together. It's like the tank version of Little and Large.
I know you probably filmed this ages ago but I was literally just there!!! I loved Der Panzer Museum!
*Das
yes these series helps me in WOT, for a interest in tanks they have in the game too try after watching these videos. Best of luck on more videos coming. As i play WOT and yes i have the Panzer 4 in the game.
Ah man uts more interesting when you play wt because you can se the basics of the inside and here i can see detail
Only with 10.5 cm derp
This series helps me in war thunder
Hoping that WG would just do away with their planned changes on HE. I do have both the PZ 4 with the derp but also the other PZ 4 with the different drive system using the the standard gun.
Pz IV H is a fantastic tank, I 2 marked it.
Several hours late to watching but what a great collaboration! Thank you Mr. Doyle for the special appearance!
For the bean counters, I've been playing WoT: Blitz for four, four and a half, years.
Finally !!! Thank you very much, Chieftain!!!
Wargaming uploads a video about the panzer IV, Me: Instant Like
OMG YES, finally. I'm gonna have to watch it again when it's released on the_chieftain's channel as well.
A definite upgrade in the presentations - ! The blend of the vast knowledge of these two is excellent. And less of that dreadful music - !
I always liked the style and proportions of this tank. As Soflein would say, "It's a cute little tank".
It’s wild that tank was so lightly armored, the Russian 14.5mm anti tank rifle was capable of piercing 30mm of armor.
They would crack the armor, opening gaps. It wasn't a one shot kill. Usually disabling rather than killing anyone.
Excellent, one of the great tanks, almost (?) as upgradable as the Sherman.
Rickenbacker hell yes
Look up the "Think Tank" YT videos from 2012. They go on for hours with panelists including Hillary Doyle, David Fletcher, and authors who have written dozens of great tank book series. Epic!
Hello there, thank you for your knowledge about the history about tanks. I really enjoy your chats about tanks especially the German tanks. They seen to be very substantial and seen to be slow too. When I watched the RUclips prorammes relating to museum in England and they had been going around the track with other tanks especially the tiger the 131 numbers on it. I do like the tank chats from you and others. I do like when you people chosen 10 tanks you guys chosen. Thank you for and keep up good work mate.
Excellent video - I much prefer this format. I've been a German tank enthusiast for decades and I learnt a few things I didn't know from this video, so well done.
Great to see these two tank gurus work in tandem together! I certainly would love to see them go over the new «scratchbuilt» Panzer IV Ausf H that Panzerfrabrik just released a few weeks ago...
Panzer IV, the German Sherman, still lethal right up to the end of the war and after, serving in other conflicts.
Call me a Monday morning quarterback but they should've limited tank production to this and the Panther.
Great video as always.
I started watching this assuming I had somehow missed an older episode and was rather excited to hunker down for both parts...
The bucket in the back is for the strategy of makeing the tank look like its been hit and on fire (by burning wood )to trick the allies. It did not always work but it did.
The true workhorse of the German Army, the most humble tank of the entire war, finally a video about the Panzer IV! Awesome!
Great episode, I love the way this tank looks.
Hiding the swastika really makes no difference . Good to have an expert to review the tank :-)
WE DID IT REDDIT. We defeated nazi germany, 80 years after the fall of germany.
When we live in a society that considers symbols and words as deadly as bullets and bombs what else can you do to be fair.
What happens when black squares need to start being blocked because it offends people?
They actually, sadly, have to block it in places like Germany, Poland, and other nations because symbols like the Swastika are federally banned, in Poland for pretty justifiable reasons, and Germany cause they're pretty disgraced about their history.
ALso, yes, I know I'm 10 months late but just wanted to say somethin'.
I started playing world of tanks before I discovered these videos. But this series perks my interest up in playing the game some more from time to time. I hope WoT doesn't cut the funding as this is some of the best content on RUclips.
Dear God, 5 min. onto this episode and I'm having such a great time.
I love Hilary L. Doyle's book 'Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two'
I've been waiting for the video on the panzer IV.
For the bean counters, been enjoying the content for a long time... also helped increased the bean count plenty enough.
I know this guy who is really into tanks and basically he plays WoT all the time when not at work. It's not for me because of my eyes but it's an awesome game in his opinion!
Awesome game...salty players.
Panzer IV, the chieftain AND Doyle! !! It just can't get any more awesome than this!
Wargaming may only be interested in getting new players, but this series is of of the reasons I haven't quit WOT yet. So please keep them coming!
Mr Doyle and Chieftain thank you very much . So many great little Details . It was nice of you to show us how to tension the track , it is so Important that we know how it was done . Question , does the Tall Guy sound like he has more of an accent in this video ?
Aye, lad
The Panzer IV H Is one of my favorit Tanks in the world of tanks! its took me 3 days of gaming or some 9 hours in totalt. to get my beloved Panzer IV H who I had dubbed Loraley.
To day I had played this game on and off for 2 years. :-) AND I LOVE IT! (-:
I once heard from some where, I can't remember where now, that some of the buckets actual had the bottoms cut out and that they where turned upside down over a hole they had dug or not as the case may be and where use to sit on when going to the toilet, i served foe 20 years ans at the very start of my service we still had one or two old storemen or general Service Hands (GSH) and Limited Service Volunteers (LSV), that had served in 1939 to 1945, around i have been in the bush a few times and would find, not having to squat over a hole a lot more comfortable but I would never deliberately carry a buck into the bush for that. Anybody heard something similar ?
Bringing in Mr. Doyle to talk about the panzer iv. I can't wait for part 2. Bravo gentlemen
Also on the note of getting the game: I can 10/10 recommend that if you like these videos then you'll love the game because it's absolutely beautiful. The physics are beautiful and you actually feel the pros and cons of the tanks as you use them in combat! I love it and I love this channel so for those of you on the fence? Just do it!
I've been playing for 5 years now and I've love it every second
The best tank with the best heads in the field talking about it. I kinda want this to be more than 2 episodes long.
Agree, Kind of like watching a trailer for LOTR.
So many clever things in there and around the tank, astounding!
LOVE mr. Doyle! A true gift and legend!
YAAAAS! THE OLD BACKGROUND MUSIIIC!
Nooo, the new one sucks.
God, do I hate the new background music.
Yes! I’ve been wanting a Panzer IV video for ages
The audio is nice, good job WOT!
i play the game on steam and xbox360 and xbox one. found out about this channel through the game, so the advertisement worked the other way round. i must say, i enjoy these videos more than the game xD
Thanks again for an excellent video. Reminds me that I have to visit Munster again.
I like this dynamic. Hope you can do more like this with him specifically.
Nice tank, looks formidable.
I thought this would be a good video to watch since am building a airfix panzer IV model. love your videos very informational
Ok, this is it, my fav tank video of all time. My fav tank, my fav tank author and my fav tanker. That’s it. Done. It doesn’t get better.
The bucket was to gather water so the crew could wash etc!
Your videos got me to play World of Tanks already, but watching these videos makes me want to drive tanks some more. Keep it up!
Can you make a video on a Panzer 38 T?
museum in Lešany has fully restored Lt 35 and Lt 38, i´m sure wargaming could arrange something. would be nice.
You can see a 38t in the background of some of the shots in this video. I would love to see it up close
Ask the Chieftain himself. He is going to be making new videos on his Patreon platform. The videos you see now are old productions that have just now been newly edited and released for public consumption.
WarGaming is cutting the series after all videos are released, and transitioning to new advertising methods for their games.
the bucket is the board-toillet
I've been waiting so long for this! Please get out pt2 soon!😄
This was FABULOUS.
Thank you.
The bulge at the top of the jerry can is designed to trap air. This serves two functions; 1, it allows some space for the fuel to expand into, and, it is enough air so that a fully filled can will float in water (it helps that petrol is less dense than water)
Imagine thinking that it's okay to show off an entire tank, a huge weapon of war, but not one tiny insignia.
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Heil RUclips!
@@evilassaultweaponeer heiil Google XD
Yep. Can't show that nasty windmill of friendship, somebody might get ideas, and we don't want that. Ideas are bad things.
unfortunately, being an online game company, Wargaming really has to cover their asses to avoid the internet ire of snowflakes/woketards. Those idiots will try to claim you are a "nazi sympathizer" for simply showing a swastika in a correct historical setting, they really will. Also it would go against German laws and possibly put the kibosh on Wargaming operating in Germany.
This duo is a blessing.
Brilliant show! Two living legends together, providing us with their vast collective knowledge! Top Show t'be sure, t'be sure. Thank you.
Great to see two Irish lads going round the Munster Ireland Tank Museum ! Or do I have it wrong ? Bjezzus! Fellow Irishman, allowed to make the craic, the rest of you no. Seriously enjoyed this and resubscribed and thanks to you and Hilary (Sites)? Are there no German experten these days ? Great video and quality content !
I believe that classy halftrack is none other than our vicious savage friend the MAULTIER!
It is not.
@@AdamMann3D just a standard one then? because that back rack looks like 1 of the 3 that a maultier would have. It doesn't look at all like a standard schutzenpanzerwagen.