This Microphone is EXCEPTIONAL!!! - Soyuz 017 FET
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- This video is focused on the Soyuz 017, and how it compares to my Neumann U87.
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As a audio engineer and mixing engineer and listening to this on headphones and monitors I’d take the Soyuz hands down! The extra money left over from not getting the u87 I’d buy a bae 1073 preamp now you have a world class vocal chain that can compete with anybody in the world! Free game! Dope video by the way!
Agreed! Thanks for watching!
@@EdwardSmithMusicI thought that the rode nt1 was the game changer? If ur gonna make sponsored videos I’ll still chime in for noobs and say that even with a Neumann tlm103 I preferred using a dynamic mic (se v7) and using free plugins (analog obsession). Every mic is unique. Everyone needs to remember your voice has its own frequency response and you can tailor mics to fit your voice. Additionally this mic is being run through hardware prolly equal to the price of the mic or more and that also contributes to the sound.
Neumann has more of good body and more pleasant highs. And neumann has omni and figure eight that makes is more versatile mic.
Nice & Clean sound. Pleasant. I've always loved how Soyuz microphones look and sound honestly.
Love the comparison part . What a great mic I've never heard anything like it , the video has done justice to this mic . Great video Ed thanks
Thanks for watching!!
That 017 sounds great on your voice. Kind of an Adele low end thing going on. Nice and full. In my experience, my 017 FET can be sibilant which is the only drawback. I often will remark on the wonderful creamy texture the mix has when I record the first tracks of any session.
This was at Guitar Center used for $1,700 USD and I immediately would have gotten it if I had the money out-of-pocket, a 600-dollar deal is very good for something like this.
Agreed!
This mic sounds so nature and smooth, the u87 is sounds after process. Is difference but in a good way.
everything about this mic is just🔥🔥
Great Mic, amazing voice! Wow
I always watch your videos for microphone knowledge, and get re-blown away by the singing everytime 😂🎉 hope your music career goes where it deserves brother ❤
Thank you so much!!! I appreciate you 🙏🏻
@@EdwardSmithMusic thank you for sharing your opinion as well as amazing range and talented voice with so many different microphones! So much helpful information from your videos ❤️
Still reviewers make the basic mistake of having the shootout be done via different takes. If youre comparing mics like this, details like ppl singing identically for both mics, matter. A lot. How hard is it to do a multitrack recording where both mics capsules are as colose to each other, as they can.
Issue is, no matter how good the singer, the details of the tone of the voice will change from one take to another.
Tho, in some ways, the difference in preamp and converter, might colour it a bit too, its way less than the performance colouring the sound.
I used to think that way too, but from doing shootouts myself over the years I've changed my mind on that.
A lot of times mics don't perform their best at the same distance or angle, or with the same preamp and processing. And also, the sound of a microphone often affects how the vocalist is performing. I think these are important factors. So honestly I think that you should try to get the best out of each microphone and then compare the results.
Yes, it's less of a scientific comparison that way, but after all these are creative tools, not measurement instruments.
Also, Edward is very consistent in his vocals. So when you do a switch during the song like in this video it's not really of much relevance if it's different takes. The tone could be more different between two phrases than between two takes.
@@henrikpetersson3463 Hm. Interesting point. I guess I generally have a more objective kind of approach to things. Yes, tone varies between phrases too, hence why I prefer if the reviewer provides the raw tracks for comparison.
@@rist98 these are both great viewpoints. You guys should grab a beer. I can agree with both! Ha
You'll find the U87ai to be more versatile. Both are very nice. The Soyuz has a sweeter sound, if that makes sense. Wait to you get into high end tube mics. That's when the U87ai really starts to feel like the workhorse it is, and not the premium mic many people are lead to believe it is. Both the Soyuz and U87ai shine through really good preamps too. Looks like you're on the Apollo. Check out some of the Unison preamps if you haven't already.
The thing with a U87 is that it never sounds best but it always sounds ok, you can just throw it up and you'll know it'll work. But these Soyus mics are no joke! have only tried the tube mic but it slays the U87 for breakfast.
😂😂😂
@@DIPProjectIOFFICIALCHANNEL it wasn’t ment as a joke! 😂
Ну микрофоны "Союз" действительно неплохие.
Мне кажется это единственное что могут делать хорошо русские производители
Yeah, gonna need to hear your audio recordings of said "slaying".
@@fabricator.cap.hill.seattle I own two U87's, one from 1980 and one from 1974, so in no shape or form I mean it's a bad mic. Look if I'd say that a U47 or Ela M 251 sounds better than a U87 noone would say anything or question me. And imo the Soyus tube mic is up there with the big boys.
The U87 is a classic but it's quite known in the industry for being a workhorse mic, it doesn't sound the best but it always works and it takes eq like a champ. Not even my words, it's literally what it's known for.
In fact, in Russia there are even craftsmen who make personalized microphones for the artist. The quality is also good, but it certainly costs a lot)
Please make a video on the Manley reference microphone. I love the sound
Soyuz ❤
Oh wow that is quite the claim you are making lol, the test was kind of short wish you could compare different type of songs with this mic vs U87, but I love the fact that there is finally some actual good competition to neumann
This not concerned mic, 87 sounding the best, and in this video too!
@@DIPProjectIOFFICIALCHANNEL lol, what? the Soyuz easily destroyed the u87.
Almost identical, except for one thing. the U87 had a more annoying mid range that didn't sound like it was part of the rest of the mic's sound. the Soyuz had smoothness and glued everything together. the lows, the mids, highs, every frequency range sounded perfectly balanced and together. U87 is great but certain frequencies stick out unnaturally.
I think Soyuz sounds great, but I still like how you sound on the Eden the best.
Next best Mic will be the c800g then I guess, or the Telefunken.
Well I guess I’m off to empty my bank account again 😂 great mic and review too👑
I love the sound of this mic and the attention to detail makes me want the mic so much more but the U87 has been my dream mic and now I’m so conflicted on which one I’d want to get xddd
Resale value would be almost same and also I’m sure you can find places to rent it too
You know it’s a good mic when you can hear the difference without headphones on 😮
Bru, you’re from SA🇿🇦!
Let me gift you a track or two for your RUclips videos.
Epic vid, extremely insightful.
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Это точно! Может скоро авто достигнут такого уровня? 😅😌
@@cosmonaut1961 С авто всё намного сложнее))
Hi, I really like your content. Can you please do a video on blue Yeti or blue snowball? I think, that many beginner singers are thinking about buying one of them.
gets to a point where focus and detail depend how good you can balance and mix, the u87 has a clearer upper mid but a little sting on top and the soyuz more fur on the lows, or so it seems but thats one strand of info, and until its on your own music it means nothing unless you are rich
I personally dont think it sounded better than the u87 bit I do think both very close to one another. Minor differences where:
U87: Has a clearer and brighter top end (A little more present)
017: Definitely smoother with a kinda sweetness (a little stronger in the mids)
But mind this difference are very small in my opinion but I still prefer the U87 🙂
i order it and i didnt think it was better
Still. Got it😭😁sell me a deal of a lifetime
Edward, If you are doing vocals and acoustic guitar and you had the Soyuz 017 FET and the Lauten Atlantis which one would you chose?
maybe in the USA this microphone is cheaper than the microphones of competitors in the "expensive" segment, but in Russia it is almost impossible to buy this microphone, because it is sold at the same price as in the USA
Yoo, idk if it would be possible for you but I saw the TLM 67 in your video, could you please make a video about it and maybe even if you have a tlm 49 could you make a comparison, in my opinion they’re probably the best sounding Neumann microphones out of the box and the tlm 67 is my dream mic
I have a TLM series comparison coming up in the next few weeks 👌🏻
I’m also interested in the TLM 67 for hip hop and rnb and pop
The 87 sounds better for male vocal. I would personally try them both at once for the qualities of both mics.
It’s absolutely nice
Nice comparison! Definitely can tell the difference and with a few tweaks can sound similar to the u87. I eventually want to get a neauman u87 or a Neumann TLM 103 they’re just so expensive lol
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Please review the Rode K2 microphone
This is the best mic ever
Very nice mic, thx for sharing.
Coming to budget microphones, between RODE NT1, NT1A, many similar ones. If you can afford one of those to Neumann TLM103.
Many sounds close, however, would you buy TLM103?
I would buy a TLM 103. It's one microphone that gives you everything you need to get that pro vocal quality and suites the recording process in home studios very well.
@EdwardSmithMusic thx for replying. Also what do you think of WARM AUDIO WA67
Listening to the raw unprocessed vocals I could hear no difference between the Soyuz and the U87 on your voice.
to my ears, the 87 microphone has a lot of sand after processing the sound, everything is fine with the Soyuz
I still don't think any microphone comes near 1040.
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Neat king bee ii on low end
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I need help from professionals to choose the best untreated arafa for voiceover 1\ mic ltm102 + focusrait solo = 760 duller 2/warm 87 r2 + focus solo = 760 duller 3/ re320+DBX286 +focusrait=550 duller What do you choose for a $700 budget?
The Soyuz sounds "big". Like there's space around your voice. It's subtle but it's there. Also nice and smooth with clarity that isn't harsh.
I'll probably take the Neumann.
You probably listening to this video with bass heavy headphones then. The soyuz doesn't have any of the grain that the Neumann has, it is just so much cleaner.
Definitely a little more AIR in the 017
the thing that i hate the shape of it i can't afford it :)
Soyus can't compete naumann. These mics just sound harsh.
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I noticed you tested out the Tlm 49 how would that mic compare to the Soyuz does the sound compare at all
The Soyuz is on another level for me. It’s a FET mic that has the warmth of a tube circuit and yet does not lack the detail many tube mics do. It’s definitely a step up from the TLM 49 🫡
Wow thank you for the honest reply that said the Tlm being known for vocals and it’s mids for this to be a step up from that I can’t imagine wow well this really makes me want to sell the 49 for this most definitely what does the Soyuz have more of then the 49 is it warmer or is it over all just better in every way thanks again really just trying to make a superb decision lol 🙏 great channel
hi I'm leowolf of leowolf TV on youtube, and i've been watching your videos for a few months now, and have enjoyed the info. however i need your advise and wisdom of mics. I have a Blue yeti mic it's very good, Save when i have to raise my voice in certain songs. it reverbs and the higher the voice or rather the louder the voice it buzzes/reverbs. can you help me? can i show you my set up? my mic has a faom filter on it with a furry muff filter ontop of it and a pop filter in front.
Hey edward I wanna buy a studio headphones under a budget of 180 dollar, i was looking forward to buy beyerdynamics one but I am confused between dt 990 pro 250 ohm and dt 770 pro 250ohm please tell which is good for home studio which don't have any room treatment also suggest other headphones with same budget with better quality then beyerdynamics one
I would go with the DT 770 Pro (80 ohm)… only get the 250 ohm if you have a headphone amp.
If i have a amp its is good to go with dt 990 pro 250 ohm?
You can test Vonyx SM50 studio monitors?
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The yodel man
Is this for the FET or the tube. The tube is $4600
This is for the FET
It definitely doesn't sound better than the u87ai but Soyuz will get the job done. Best to use the tlm103 or Audio Technica AT4050. Use the rest of the money for high quality interface and Outboard preamp.
what audio interface to go with Soyuz 017, thanks
What app do you use to edit your music
Love you brother...I need u87 Neuman
Can you pls review Soyuz 1973.
Is this a sponsored video?
Nope 🫡
yo, this may sound like a strange question but does this mic run off standard xlr mogami mic cables? I have some of them I just noticed it came without a cable
it does run of a standard XLR connection because it’s a FET
Hi! Could you please help me choose between audio technica ath m20,30,40x, sony mdr-7506 and senheiser hd 280 pro.Which is the best all-in-one for mixing and tracking and mastering. I watched your video about these headphones and u said overall you would go for the sonys, but I think for the sound m40x are better. So id like to know your opinion, maybe other headphones at the price of 80$ is better. Well see. Cya!
If you like the m40x the best then go for them. It's you that are going to use them, not Edward.
@@henrikpetersson3463 Ok thanks! Have you ever experienced them? I also asked other music prodicers and they told me - go for the sonys, they are better.
This or the U87?
Союз - Топ!
Could I please have some money to buy a microphone I'm only 13 I don't have a lot of money. Please!
With my cheap earbuds I can't tell the difference in sound quality lol
its good, not $2600 good though....
compara el Neumann u87 vs neumann 107 pliss
107 its your company?
What about a Neumann u87i ? Better then the golden mic? 😜
Did you not watch the video 😂
Im assuming the Neumann hes using is the U87i which is not as good as the U87 i had both and sold the i long time ago .
@@OkayyyBee Hes got a Neumann u87ai ...u87i is completly different 👌
@@javascript6948 No Bro Hes got the u87ai ...u87i is different..much better then the modern u87ai version
@@m4schine-gun-kellyiii343 i own a u87i myself, never touched an u87Ai before tbh. Read in lots of blogs that the U87 Vintage is way better, smooth, "sexy sound" & warm than the modern u87.
Why support Ruzzia?
крутой микрофон
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Can we still import russian products to the USA?
Even more so... I think Soyuz is owned by Americans. Lol.
I think not, otherwise Ukraine will add to the list of organizations supporting the war the one who will do this. After the sanctions, there was also a shortage of a product that isolates electronic boards from water, they couldn’t do anything about it, they had to switch to analogues, although they are not quite suitable
А я за то могу кока колу оригинальную пить
@@ДанисСкорыга Who doesn't give a damn about this clown's list?
Why do you always spoil the sound of good mics? In your video, both cheap and expensive mics sound awful.
You have become too busy with microphones..!!!!
bro don't be classic youtuber and making preview faces pics on every of your video...just advice...it's ret......
I might need to tone it down a bit 🤣
Is this video sponsored?
Nope 🫡
The Soyuz 017 is not the best microphone, and it's definitely not better than the U87. Soyuz is better only for you personally, because it is better suited to your voice timbre, judging by this video.
Wow, i thought that amerima hate Russia
U87 is better
a lot has happened in the world of not microphones also. this is a russian product. i don’t care what it sounds like.
Nobody cares I am saving up to buy a Soyuz 😂
Sooo... you just wanted to publicly state that you're... how to put it... not very bright? Ok, thanks for informing us.
Jesus, I can probably bet money that you watch CNN and MSNBC and most probably have pronouns in your social media accounts XD
Please don't support Russia. Martin from 🇨🇿
Viva Russia 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺
Мне искренне жаль что вы считаете простых русских людей виноватыми в чем то, этим миром управляет куча идиотов, и народ тут не причем, в любой стране все хотят мирно жить, кроме системы управления людьми !
@@DIPProjectIOFFICIALCHANNEL Ну в России большое количество поддерживает это всё.Я бы сказал так процентов 70 за ,и поддерживают все что происходит.А это реально много.И они виноваты жб.
@@Ramazan_62 бред не пишите, вы лично опрос делали ? Я музыкант и общаюсь с людьми - никто из окружающих не поддержал !!!!!
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Not a pretty mic
Soyuz sounds nicer