When they talk about ‘shining’ on stage… this is what they mean. Technical ability has nothing to do with it. It’s that smile and passion. I’m glad that everyone trusted Tomori when she said she felt relieved they chose Coco. Her faith was rightly placed. I already supported Coco, but after seeing this, I’m even more excited to see where Coco goes from here as she takes up the baton. She’s clearly stoked to be here and taking it seriously! And also…. As a theater kid who had to quit due to having Tomori’s condition, it’s nice to know that even if it was for a little while, one of us got to shine up there. Thanks Tomoriru.
For having such big shoes to fill, I think Coco is doing amazing. I can't imagine how nervous she was to do this iconic song. I'm certain she'll only grow from here!
There are a few things that I'd like to point out about this specific song. First, The 'whoa, YEAAAAAAAAH!' that is done as a shout, which is heard at around the 3 minute-and-34-second mark in the video (which is roughly 3 minutes and 29 seconds into the song itself), that is actually a jump up to a sustained E note in the fifth octave, which is a critical part of the song that only happens during the final chorus. Second off, it is clear that the E note has to be sustained TWO TIMES with little room to breathe between the two sustains. Adding onto that, there's a slide down to a B note in the fourth octave after the first time that the note is hit. So, I can honestly see why Setsuna's new VA had a bit of trouble with that when she first learned the lyrics for this song.
HONEST TO GOD THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR SETSUNA TO DANCE AGAIN Thanks for giving her a dance we were due for a long time, Coco. We'll always miss you Tomori, I'll always support you for who you are and not which role you play
Thanks for posing this was trying to find Coco's version of Setsuna's Chase to see how she does this song to Tomori. First I want to say that I have nothing against Coco and I do understand why Tomori had to step down. So if this comes off rude for give me trying my best to say how to say this since I do have a learning disablity. Anyway. I did listen to Coco with my eyes close so I can get the clear image of Setsuna from her voice. There is at times she does sound a tiny bit sour but not much. I do love her take of this song and to me the shout part that Coco does and Tomori does is almost there Coco is a little bit quiter then Tomori. I know Coco will get there in time I will give her more time. But as right now I still love Tomori's version better as well with Tomori's version of Like it Love It.
In all fairness, everybody sounded kinda off tune in the beginning! I can't wait to see how Coco develops as Setsuna. Plus I think Setsuna's current songs are a little bit high for Coco's voice 😅 it'll get better!
@@novethegreat This song is actually fine for coco and is a bit too high for Tomori. She's nervous, and probably isnt used to singing as the character Setsuna, since she just sounds like Hayashi Coco singing. She'll get used and will eventually learn to match her character to her singing like Tomori did since the start.
She's got the stamina and really did Setsuna's song justice. With Tomori already stepped down and Coco took the mantle, Tomori can now achieve Setsuna's dream of watching lives at the audience area just like in that certain Nijiyon chapter.
POV: You are listening "CHASE" From Coco Hayashi whilst trying to complete City Escape Stages in Sonic Generations. (Warning: Trucks can go 400mph whilst chasing down Sonic).
I feel like a fool kinda. When Tomori was around she wasnt my favorite, but now that she's gone I miss her. Nothing against Coco, but Tomori will always be THE Setsuna to me.
This isn't Setsuna Yuki, this is Nakagawa Nana and nothing will change my mind. edit: before people get angry, they are the same person, my comment was not an insult. Just 2 sides of the same coin.
@@Moa_Smugnot only that, I can’t imagine the nerves she was feeling, this was her first time in stage as Setsuna. She had to go out and try to live up to everyone’s expectations of her taking over this beloved character. I believe in other songs from this live her voice gets a little more steady, her nerves were probably highest during this song because she new everyone was waiting for that yell
@@amberkay3983 Nope even in later songs her voice was still shaky even when she's standing still...As it turns out she has a genetic disorder, Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome to be exact. She often suffers from excruciating muscle pain, dislocations, and joint pains because of it leading to her getting hospitalized more frequently. Her management gave her a letter of withdrawal, which she could accept or decline. They did this in consideration of her condition, and because the doctor adviced her to step down and stop such strenuous activities entirely...She accepted, so now the new Setsuna is Coco Hayashi. Coco has a history of doing lives so she's perfect for the job. In some way, Tomori stepping down is a blessing in disguise. I view it as such. Tomori would be able to fulfill Setsuna's dream of watching her favorite idols at the Audience area.
I do not think that the performance is good only because this song has its original singer, which is Tomori, who when she sang she used to make the words touch the heart of the listener, and this is what she did not see when Coco sang. I wish her success and my best🎉😢🎉
@@cdn4767 MyGo! is great, but 5 to 7 years is awfully harsh. Morfonica started off really rough, but Amanesu really improved in a short time. Morfonica went from my second least favorite to second favorite.
@@KatsuKasuu 5-7 years is good, because Seiyuu reach their peak around that time. I can see something here. Unless she turns out to be an all time great.
@@KatsuKasuu I just finished 2 songs from Morfonica, from a 2 horse race, it turns to 3, because their songs is so good that they’re amongst my top 3 favorite. But still I will have to wait until It’s my GO to judge Hayamaru singing.
Not as good as Kusunoki Tomori, her voice doesn't have required depth and range for this type of song, also, it's too high-pitched for Setsuna. She's also off-key most of the time. This is basically not Setsuna but different character, would be better if they let Setsuna graduate and let Coco sing for her own new character.
ともりから引き継いで初めてのライブともりが演じたせつ菜を鼓々ちゃんらしくまたともりのように演じることが出来るか不安の中で披露してくれたCHASE、全く違和感なかったよむしろここまで再現してくれて鼓々ちゃんに感謝しかないよ。
演劇畑で育った子なんだなぁと感じるミュージカルっぽい発声の仕方。
もともと歌手志望でボーカリストらしい発声のともりるに寄せて作られたせつ菜の曲はなかなか難しいだろうな。
ここちゃんがこれからどんな風にせつ菜と融合して育っていくか楽しみ。
詳しいですね。演劇やってましたか?
When they talk about ‘shining’ on stage… this is what they mean. Technical ability has nothing to do with it. It’s that smile and passion. I’m glad that everyone trusted Tomori when she said she felt relieved they chose Coco. Her faith was rightly placed. I already supported Coco, but after seeing this, I’m even more excited to see where Coco goes from here as she takes up the baton. She’s clearly stoked to be here and taking it seriously!
And also…. As a theater kid who had to quit due to having Tomori’s condition, it’s nice to know that even if it was for a little while, one of us got to shine up there. Thanks Tomoriru.
ここから成長し続けてる。
本当に頑張ってくれてるよ。
怖かっただろうな。 ありがとう
せつ菜推しでやっと見にきてみたけど全然違和感なくね。厳しい意見多いだろうけど頑張ってほしい。間違いなく自分は好き
これDay1だったはずだけど
移動中の開始前に緊張と思える息遣いが聞こえて、観客である自分が緊張しちゃったなぁ……
最後のシャウトを聴いてそんな緊張は吹っ切れたけど。
ま、配信勢なんですけどね。
あとを引き継いでくれたのにコメ欄辛口...確かに違和感あるかもだけど歌うまいし少しでも近づけようと頑張ってくれてるからこれはこれで全然いいよ
だって正直に言うと活動1年目の蓮の方がちゃんとラブライブのliveやってるからね。現地参戦して「虹は絶対勝てねぇわ」って思ったし。
@@Gin-mo7qgおう、そうか。他現地楽しんでな。虹のファンはこっちで楽しくやってるわ。
For having such big shoes to fill, I think Coco is doing amazing. I can't imagine how nervous she was to do this iconic song. I'm certain she'll only grow from here!
Yeah I agree!
There are a few things that I'd like to point out about this specific song. First, The 'whoa, YEAAAAAAAAH!' that is done as a shout, which is heard at around the 3 minute-and-34-second mark in the video (which is roughly 3 minutes and 29 seconds into the song itself), that is actually a jump up to a sustained E note in the fifth octave, which is a critical part of the song that only happens during the final chorus. Second off, it is clear that the E note has to be sustained TWO TIMES with little room to breathe between the two sustains. Adding onto that, there's a slide down to a B note in the fourth octave after the first time that the note is hit. So, I can honestly see why Setsuna's new VA had a bit of trouble with that when she first learned the lyrics for this song.
theres really no match for tomoriru, but i think she's doing great
@@IdolMako I honestly think that Tomori set the example, and Coco Hayashi is the one that's following it, but in her own way.
i belive both Tomoriru and Coco chan have equally amazing voices,@@princeofcats331
3:44 この笑顔!惚れました!
ともりるの後任が彼女で本当によかった😢
目が可愛い🩷笑顔が素敵
HONEST TO GOD
THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR
SETSUNA TO DANCE AGAIN
Thanks for giving her a dance we were due for a long time, Coco.
We'll always miss you Tomori, I'll always support you for who you are and not which role you play
Grazie Ragazzi, Coco Hayashi!
OMG She was so good!! Gave me chills, this is not an easy part! 😍😍😍😍😍😍
これからおっきいステージで鼓子ちゃんの歌声を聞けるのが楽しみだ
違和感ないのが嬉しい
あまり詳しくないのですが
元々の声優とは違う方ですか?
@@すーくん-r3cもう知ってるかもですが、前まではともりさんという声優の方が優木せつ菜をやっていたのですが、関節の病気の関係上この動画で歌ってる林さんと変わりました
エーラスダンロス症候群っていう指定難病を患ってた
ランガちゃんからニジにもアイドルとしてきたここちゃん…
ちょっと、緊張してる?
力強い歌いかた… もう完全にここちゃんver.の歌いかた…
ともりるはともりるで好きですが
0:21 0:25 1:29 1:33 1:51 4:00 ダンスかっこよ
3:44 4:04 4:10 笑顔かわいい
awwwe omg i love her!! her voice is amazing
She did a good job, it was a different kind of power with the shouting parts but it's still really good
i love how she does a little smile after the shout part, it's so cute
マジか…?
MyGO‼‼! 立希ちゃんじゃないか!
せつ菜ちゃんが、大人っぽくなってる。
Thanks for posing this was trying to find Coco's version of Setsuna's Chase to see how she does this song to Tomori. First I want to say that I have nothing against Coco and I do understand why Tomori had to step down. So if this comes off rude for give me trying my best to say how to say this since I do have a learning disablity. Anyway. I did listen to Coco with my eyes close so I can get the clear image of Setsuna from her voice. There is at times she does sound a tiny bit sour but not much. I do love her take of this song and to me the shout part that Coco does and Tomori does is almost there Coco is a little bit quiter then Tomori. I know Coco will get there in time I will give her more time. But as right now I still love Tomori's version better as well with Tomori's version of Like it Love It.
In all fairness, everybody sounded kinda off tune in the beginning! I can't wait to see how Coco develops as Setsuna.
Plus I think Setsuna's current songs are a little bit high for Coco's voice 😅 it'll get better!
@@novethegreat This song is actually fine for coco and is a bit too high for Tomori. She's nervous, and probably isnt used to singing as the character Setsuna, since she just sounds like Hayashi Coco singing. She'll get used and will eventually learn to match her character to her singing like Tomori did since the start.
OWO Looks Like Coco Hayashi aka Hayamaru Did That. Love It!!!!!❤
YEAAAAH! Grazie Ragazzi Coco Hayashi! Grazie Ragazzi! Your song in this one is simply legendary! ❤️
She's got the stamina and really did Setsuna's song justice. With Tomori already stepped down and Coco took the mantle, Tomori can now achieve Setsuna's dream of watching lives at the audience area just like in that certain Nijiyon chapter.
楽しそうに歌うね♪
This song is hard as shit to sing but she slayed it ✨✨
ここちゃんかわいい~
緊張?できっと本調子じゃないのかな?
プレッシャーやばいと思うけど頑張って欲しい〜!!ここちゃんにしかできないせつ菜ちゃんがいるはず...!!!!!!!
そして、ともりるの歌唱ってやっぱりヤバかったんだなと再認識...👏
違和感ないのスゴ
せつなに追いつけるのはともりるぐらいと思った
これで違和感無いってどんだけ過大評価してんのよ
@@Gin-mo7qgこれで違和感あるとかどんだけ過小評価してんのよ
@@miri9716俺は妥当評価で他の人は妥協評価やろ?
@@miri9716うまいとは思うけど、ともりるとはかなり違うと思う
@@ねびあ-p7uどんだけ似てる人を探したってともりるじゃなきゃともりるのせつ菜は演じられない。それにしてもたしかに違うかもしれないけど、変に声似てるとかで選ぶよりも総合的に判断して選ぶべきだからそりゃ違いはあるよ。だからともりるとは違っても下手じゃなきゃいいじゃん
SHE DID IT SHE DID THE SHOUT SHE PULLED IT OFF
Rikki😭😭 You did "Setsuna" so well🎉
前の方の歌声を知っちゃってるからこそ言うけど
やっぱり楠木さんの凄さを改めて思ってしまう……
高音はともりると比べてもそんなに遜色ないと思うけど、低音部分があんまりきれいではないかな……
凄く歌上手いんだけど、優木せつ菜ちゃんの歌というよりは、ここさんの歌という感じに今はまだなってる気がする……でも、これだけ大勢の観客の前で頑張って笑顔で歌って踊ってるだけで凄いと思う!これからは、ここさんとして、じゃなくて少しづつ優木せつ菜ちゃんに近づいていって欲しいな!
POV: You are listening "CHASE" From Coco Hayashi whilst trying to complete City Escape Stages in Sonic Generations.
(Warning: Trucks can go 400mph whilst chasing down Sonic).
SHES so cute
3:35
Yeahhhh I love her ❤🎉
Me too, Aya-chan. Coco Hayashi could be the future GOAT.
Simplemente HERMOSO!!!
Omg got goosebumps there!
歌も上手で安定してるし素晴らしいせつ菜ちゃんだけど、CHASE!はクールなイメージ?というかせつ菜の強い思い的なイメージの曲だから序盤笑顔で歌ってんのがなんか解釈違う気もしないでもない…
ともりるのパフォーマンスに慣れすぎただけかもしれないけど…
でも林鼓子さんのせつ菜ちゃんも好きです!
good job coco chan
Go Coco!
私の過去を想像する様に感じた。😢憎い自分、悪と云う自分も、どいてけーーーー🤯❤️🔥🤣
I feel like a fool kinda. When Tomori was around she wasnt my favorite, but now that she's gone I miss her. Nothing against Coco, but Tomori will always be THE Setsuna to me.
歌上手い
灯りじゃなく安野じゃないか代打と言われたら安野さんの代打ならありな気がするこの子
She is cute😊
As cute as Sebastian Vettel?
This isn't Setsuna Yuki, this is Nakagawa Nana and nothing will change my mind.
edit: before people get angry, they are the same person, my comment was not an insult. Just 2 sides of the same coin.
Panda de ridículos,es una perosna distinta,obio va a sonar distinto,eso no quita que sea una pedazo de cantante y tenga un vozarrón
she's good, but her voice still shakes so much
she’s probably needs time to get used to the role
Well singing and dancing at the same time is very taxing on the body despite already having years of experience performing live.
@@Moa_Smugnot only that, I can’t imagine the nerves she was feeling, this was her first time in stage as Setsuna. She had to go out and try to live up to everyone’s expectations of her taking over this beloved character. I believe in other songs from this live her voice gets a little more steady, her nerves were probably highest during this song because she new everyone was waiting for that yell
@@amberkay3983 Nope even in later songs her voice was still shaky even when she's standing still...As it turns out she has a genetic disorder, Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome to be exact.
She often suffers from excruciating muscle pain, dislocations, and joint pains because of it leading to her getting hospitalized more frequently.
Her management gave her a letter of withdrawal, which she could accept or decline. They did this in consideration of her condition, and because the doctor adviced her to step down and stop such strenuous activities entirely...She accepted, so now the new Setsuna is Coco Hayashi. Coco has a history of doing lives so she's perfect for the job.
In some way, Tomori stepping down is a blessing in disguise. I view it as such. Tomori would be able to fulfill Setsuna's dream of watching her favorite idols at the Audience area.
I do not think that the performance is good only because this song has its original singer, which is Tomori, who when she sang she used to make the words touch the heart of the listener, and this is what she did not see when Coco sang. I wish her success and my best🎉😢🎉
No bad and I think Coco will further improve in the future. The audio balance tho is really bad... defiantly need a better sound engineer
how is it not getting blocked ??
I don't know 🗿
@@quikuzi918 Coco chan's CHASE is simply 10/10!
If it’s not Tomori singing they don’t care apparently lolol
New taste but something off and need to polished
ともりさんより動きに躍動感があって物凄く力強い感じがするね!
低音が似てるね
ともりるやっぱり凄すぎた…
あの力強い声が恋しい😭
スクフェス2やって違和感凄すぎたな…声変わるの遅すぎた感
あ"〜!!!
アイドルしてんだ〜!!!って笑顔が好きすぎて配信何回も見返した。
一応これは無断転載なので通報と注意書きをさせていただきます、これからの林鼓子さんのご活躍を是非とも皆さん
会場もしくは配信にて追っていきましょう!
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高いきいが、やっぱりともりるの方が上手い。新しいキャラソンが出たらどんな感じに歌ってくれるのか楽しみではある。せつ菜役で、お客様の前で歌を歌う訳だから、緊張する。けど、緊張しっぱなしでは居られ無いよ。頑張れ、林囃子。
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ともりが神格化されすぎてて笑うわ
生で聴いたことあんのかなあの外れまくりバテまくりの歌
誰もこの人が下手とか言ってないし楠木が滅茶苦茶上手いとも言ってないがね。
単純に歌唱力はともりるより全然あるしみんな何に文句を言ってるのかあんまりわかんない笑笑
優木せつ菜を演じれてないからやろ
@@Gin-mo7qg誰もが初めは完璧に演じれる訳では無い。あなたの大好きな楠木さんだってそうでした。物語の中で成長していくキャラクターと共に、声優さんのライブでのパフォーマンスも成長していく。そんな所にラブライブ!の魅力を感じて応援している人だって沢山居ます。自分自身がそのうちの一人です。
そして、虹ヶ咲人気ナンバー1キャラの後任ということで、かなりの重圧とプレッシャーを感じながらも一生懸命務めてくださってる林さん。そんな素敵な人様に対して、届かないとは言えそのような失礼な発言は決してしてはならないと思います😰
@@かぼちぁ失礼か?寧ろ金を払って遠方から来る人達に対して不完全なパフォーマンスする事の方が失礼だと思うけどね。チケ代だって安くないしね4thの時の纏まりもないliveを観たときこの人達プロ意識無いんだなって正直思ったけど6thも歌詞を間違えた人がいたらしいしこの人達対して練習してないんだろうな感じるよね虹のダンスとかって星と比べても明らかに内容とレベル低いし。
地声結構低い声なのに低音は苦手なのかな?これもそうだけど特にLike it Love it の方低い音の声が出てなさすぎてすごく聞き取りにくかった…ロングの伸びも全然だし初披露からどこまで成長するのか期待する反面如何にともりるがレベチすぎたかわかるなぁ
She’s only 20, we should give at least 5-7 years to improve. Although I genuinely dislike Setsuna solo anyway.
its okay having no taste.
@@KatsuKasuu I actually predicting her song comes good when conditions is hot. About Coco, the focus should be on BanG dream not Love Live.
@@cdn4767 MyGo! is great, but 5 to 7 years is awfully harsh. Morfonica started off really rough, but Amanesu really improved in a short time. Morfonica went from my second least favorite to second favorite.
@@KatsuKasuu 5-7 years is good, because Seiyuu reach their peak around that time. I can see something here. Unless she turns out to be an all time great.
@@KatsuKasuu I just finished 2 songs from Morfonica, from a 2 horse race, it turns to 3, because their songs is so good that they’re amongst my top 3 favorite. But still I will have to wait until It’s my GO to judge Hayamaru singing.
meeehhhh
Not as good as Kusunoki Tomori, her voice doesn't have required depth and range for this type of song, also, it's too high-pitched for Setsuna. She's also off-key most of the time. This is basically not Setsuna but different character, would be better if they let Setsuna graduate and let Coco sing for her own new character.
なんだろうね何も響かないし感動もしない…荷が重かったと言えばそれまでだけど…
そんなお前の声も声優陣からすれば雑音の一つに過ぎないからなぁ
@@茶房-p5bお前もな。べた褒めしてれば心地良いとでも思ってる?
쿠스노기 토모리의 뒤를이어서
제2대 유키 세츠나의 자리를 거머쥔
하야시 코코
그녀가 가고자 하는 길에 언제나
행운만이 함께하기를!
こんなのせつ菜じゃねーよ😢
せつ菜(CV楠木ともり)の物真似したった感動もせんぞ
初めてアニメで流れたCHASEはマジで飛びそうだったけどこいつのCHASEは嘗めてるようにしか聞こえんよ。
ファン辞めちまえよ
@@茶房-p5b悪いけど1stで聴いたCHASEはこんな安っぽい歌じゃなかったぞ妥協でも無理だわ。ていうかファンですら林子鼓のCHASEより楠木ともりのCHASEの方が聴きたい好きって人の方が多いだろ。
@@Gin-mo7qg 無断転載動画にライン超え誹謗中傷コメントか・・・お前何様なんだよ
@@亜成-g5i聴いた歌を実直に感想を述べて何が悪い?
公式サイトには書かねえから良いやろ。本人が無断転載観てたらこちとら知らんし。
@@Gin-mo7qgその言葉がここちゃんだけじゃなくてどれだけともりるを傷つけるか分かってる??😢