No matter the time, the place, or the continuity, she always: has a soft spot for Heero, always puts herself in danger, and always seems to be living on another planet lol
Honestly, I'm not really sure she realize half of what was going on during the terrorist attack. Even with a gun to her head she seemed more spaced-out than scared.
Relenas problem was that she needed a lot more attention than she got in a show that was already spread pretty thin in trying to balance time amongst all it's different characters. Especially, like all the women in the show, she is a is a representative character of a group or idea within the show. In the case of Relena it is the Sanq Kingdom and the ideals of Total Pasifism. The show really needed to show her taking control of the Sanq Kingdom and learning it's philosophy while the 5 pilots were all in space dealing with Ozs take over. Unfortunately all we see is her show up at a Romafeller event once, and then don't see her at all for over 10 episodes.
Still waiting on Heero Yui's development history We need to hear Heero's backstory in order to definitely say that Wufei had the worst development history.
I remember the stuff in the manga where "Heero" accompanied his father, who was the assassin that shot Heero Yuy, while our "Heero" is responsible for injuring Treize, whom then met Leia Barton while he recuperated. And this is ignoring the clusterfudge what is Frozen Teardrop's prequel chapters.
Yup. Heero's Prequel story is pretty much being dragged along by Odin Lowe the man who shot the real Heero Yuy, and takes in Heero teaching him everything about his profession and a bit more. However, the prequel manga may have hinted that Odin is actually Heero's father, but it doesn't state it. That was something Frozen Teardrop introduced I believe. SPOILER WARNING!! Also if I remember that story right it shows the first meeting between the boy we later know as Heero Yuy and Doctor J after Odin gets himself killed by Dekim Barton who had hired Odin to kill General Septum who had been at the colony at the time.
Ya know I always remember her in the first opening, where she is brushing off snow on a toy bear that survived a battle. Ever touch snow at night? That's cold.
You know this girl only got so much hate because of the fact that she was interfering with the gay ships and it is seriously disturbing. Also she's not a bad character, she's supposed to be the token idealist that Wing Gundam dearly needed because no one was willing to try the peaceful solution. Also she's not wrong about her ideology, if national leaders weren't such idiotic pieces of s*** then maybe we could have actual piece.
The shippings had nothing to do with it. And there's nothing wrong with her ideals. But the way she tried to push such ideals, by placing herself in danger and complicating things because of her being totally reckless and having no common sense... yeah, that's what makes her annoying.
@@TheTrueBro Maybe for you shipping had nothing to do with the hate directed towards her but the majority of the Gundam Wing fandom it was because of the simple fact that all them kept on trying to ship the pilots with one another.
Relena is my favorite, bar none. Five sexy guys in little shorts and tights and stuff? My little girl former self wasn't having it. Relena? F&_k yeah! Also the outfits! Seeing Hero almost shoot her in the most beautiful dress ever which she didn't want to wear was .. it was something to watch. Did he stop because of what she was saying? Or because she was just that beautiful? Can't tell, like that though. Edit: I know it's because she gave a speech and the people he was hoping he'd kill clapped. 😂😂😂
Ehh, “Absolute Pacifism” might be an interesting thought experiment if you don’t think about too hard, but having it as an actual foreign policy is just plain stupid. Best way to be a truly neutral nation is to be like pre-WW2 US (ie. speak softly and carry a big stick). Do your best to stay out of everyone’s business as much as reasonably possible, but make absolutely certain that the very first guy who messes with you regrets it for the next 100 years.
Idk why but this just seems so absolutely absurd to me. Like there are so many coincidences that all these people met before so many years before the show. Idk maybe releena just made it all up or something
DYK: Relena was inspired by MSG’s Sayla Mass. Relena would later inspire Turn A’s Dianna Soreil, SEED/SEED Destiny’s Lacus Clyne and Cagalli Yula Athha, 00’s Marina Ismail, and IBO’s Kudelia Aina Bernstein.
Well since Sumisawa penned the Frozen Teardrops novel.. well its a retcon. The boy who calls himself Black Alpha is actually Beta's (The Heero from the TV series) clone who went to earth to pursue its own mission. The episode Zero manga was honest about saying that "Heero" has no record of travelling to Earth before the start of the TV series since that was Alpha.
I've only watched the show, but she didn't go "that's hot", she's just what you'd call an extreme pacifist 😊 They're all like punch punch, kill kill... She managed to get people to stop doing that by just talking to them.
That'a why a lot of prequel manga fall flat, try to bring more story and intrigue to the series, but just adds plotholes. I do like prequel manga to other manga that has existed, cause the writers of those prequels USUALLY are the same or they dont make more problems
Shrug. I agree with the flashback parts, but the parts of the boys getting ready for Operation Meteor was actually quite interesting and explored a bit more of those scenes from the flashback scenes in the anime.
i feel like the real question from the first episode of Wing is, were there gundams in the AC timeline prior to Wing? because the phrase, 'those whove laid eyes on a gundam .. " meaning the idea of a gundam mobile suit is something that is known within this universe, meaning unlike most gundam timelines, these gundams arent the first.
Super Robot Wars makes everyone more badass than they'd be in their normal universe. It made Shinji from Evangelion straight badass. No wonder it was able to work some magic with Relena.
@@andrewowens4421 Problem with Shinji is that he has shit male role models and most of the women he interacts with have baggage of their own. It's a world in desperate need of therapists and there are none to be had.
@@rock117rx2 Heh. Well we do have Kudelia from IBO, who while not really fighting or anything during the series, was there on the front lines a few times helping the heroes in other ways like helping getting the injured out of the line of fire. She also stayed behind with the heroes when everyone turned against them thanks to their stupid decisions. Then we have the other main female character in IBO Atra who really proved that while a girl she had balls when she managed to convince a couple of guys she was actually Kudelia that lead to them trying to beat her up. Still surprised Mikazuki didn't kill those guys right there when he learned what they did to Atra.
Makes me wish they dubbed X after Wing. Tiffa Adill was so much a better female counterpart to Garrod Ran than Relena was to Heero. Tiffa WAS a major character in the story
I am a Gundam Wing Fan, it was the first Gundam series I ever saw, I love this anime despite it's flaws, And the Heero X Relena relationship was one one of those flaws and I agree with you Shaw Dawg.
@@shawdawg3675 The Gundam being overpowered is something straight from the original MSG's first third where RX-78-2 were impervious to everything that the Zakus threw at it and the last third where Amuro just single-handedly killing Doms & Gelgoogs left & right and the only challenge to him was Elmeth, Char's Gelgoog & Zeong. In comparison, Freedom was a mid-show powerup but already facing equal challenge after only a handful of episodes after its debut by the Druggist Gundams (& Providence later on).
@@androyus dom surpass RX-78 on land, it only thanks to amuro ability it survive till the end OYW. Also prototype gundam got wrecked fighting bunch of zaku. Meanwhile kira could easily kill those 3 druggies early on with justice help, instead he either just kick them or shot them with railgun. If it amuro, he already finish off those 3 during orb invasion n prevent more casualties
What does it take to end a war? Well, if both sides wish for peace and set aside their hatred... No. Warfare is nothing but a means of negotiation between states. Wars break out even when there is no hatred. Territory, resources, or interests that you are determined to own. Ideology, religion, pride. Wars are fought over those objectives all the time. Meaning that when those objectives are met, the war will end. That, or the war will end when the human cost outweighs the gains. Anger and hatred are only tools to tilt a war in your favor. I'm not interested in those emotions. So I wouldn't hate anyone just because they're Martian. - Inaho Kaizuka (Aldnoah.Zero)
I liked episode zero - it was fun to get a little more history on all of them. But your critique is right for the whole thing - each story could have been it’s own book instead of it’s own chapter, they all feel rushed.
Relena meeting Heero on AC 191 does kind of retcon their first meeting, but we could take into consideration that, as years went on, she completely forgot about it, and started focusing on other things that were going on in her life.
Impressive yet unthinkable- this forsees how tragic fate and destiny would be for Relena and Heero We need an OVA or anime series on Glory of Losers and Frozen Teardrop Should the Gundam Origin Series would go out of Universal Century Era and go with the other Gundam Universes such as Cosmic Era, Anno Domini Era, and also the Gundam Build Universe: I'd definitely go with the After Colony Era One way or another- how did the respective universes of G Gundam or Gundam X- affect the fates and furies of Relena and Heero? And how will their actions shape what's next in the Gundam Universe- particularly: What is Heero Yuy and Relena Peacecraft's contribution to the upcoming Cosmic Era? *should all respective universes are united in just one single Gundam Universe Timeline
I grew up with Gundam WIng and i really enjoyed the anime. I really want 2 see the manga sequel Frozen Teardrops seen made into an anime. Gundam Wing was so Fucking good and Relena was a well written character.
I'm amused that "Relena doesn't actually do anything" is one of the items on the "how to write a Gundam Wing prequel story" checklist. If I'm interpreting this correctly, she never actually does get around to speaking a single word to Heero at any point during this manga, does she?
Shrug. I remember a friend mentioning that they were trying to get their interactions short as to make their met up in Episode One a bit more impact or something to that effect.
Ah yes, Relena while memorable is also one of the worst characters in Gundam. At least her english VA get to do Sumeragi of Gundam 00 or at least that is what I was told. Personally, that alone is a redemption arc.
Part of the reason Relena was so bad is that she doesn't really grow during the series. She remains relatively same, which is frustratingly clueless about everything going on while trying to preach peace. She also puts herself into crazy situations because she believe Heero would always save her. Sure, _that's what happened_ but that doesn't make her decisions smart ones.
I think that Relena got more of a redemption arc in Endless Walts when she told the world to stand up to Mariemaia's army and fight to preserve their own peace.
I agree as far as this being a way to explain that sense a young age Relena has hated war given she's seen the horrors of them and a great way to bring Zechs into the story. Heero being in it is too much if the anime we have seen from day one we don't need more of it.
Tbh,what made relena worse imo is that she kinda looks more at home in a shoujo manga than a gundam series...but also she does seem to have a simplified view of the world that just wasn't really realistic.
Would it blow your mind to find out that Gundam Wing was meant to be a shoujo series? Seriously, everything about it was meant to target the previously untapped market of the female audience. Making all the boys pretty boys, making all of the girls elegant, even the design of the suits themselves looking more feminine than previous iterations of Gundam. Which makes it all the funnier when you know that toonami tried to play it as being this badass thing. Americans so often miss the point.
@@TacComControl the point wasn't missed we just reinterpreted the story from a different point of view . At that point a few shoujo anime had already been released so we got the frame of reference.
These wing prequel mangas always seem to over complicate things by contriving characters to meet way earlier than they do in the show or giving them some weird relation that doesn't really make any sense.
This really felt unnecessary. Honestly, if the basic concept of the story being pitched is a "history of Relena" I'd rather it focus on the fall of the Sanc Kingdom, her escape, and adoption into the Darlians. Similar to what Gundam The Origin did with young Sayla. Which, sure, Relena'd be too young to reasonably participate in this as a character, but it is nevertheless the most interesting thing about her which we don't actually get to see. Her inciting incident as a character is in the first episode of Gundam Wing and prior to that she was just, ya'know, a sheltered rich schoolgirl that needs no more examination than what we can easily infer from her early characterization.
This just doesn't work with the anime at all. This would be like saying in Star Wars that Luke and Leia met on some Tatooine-Alderaan exchange student program when they were 12. While not technically impossible, it's so insanely forced... Like they already had a pre-written template story and just edited in some details to fill a cliche.
I had to stop watching the video the moment Heero showed up because... that's just dumb. I watched the rest after several minutes of rambling to myself over how ridiculous Gundam Wing and its lore is, and I think you summed it up pretty succinctly. Characters meeting each other before ever meeting each other, intertwined pasts and a whole lot of doing the same shit they would end up doing again later is lazy writing.
Actually the manga only implies its Heero, but like Kakarot mentioned they really should have had completely different boy, or even a girl (hello Middie Une!), filling Heero's role perfectly. Since about this time Heero is actually running around with the assassin Odin Lowe being taught by the man and not with any sort of terrorist/rebel group as the manga claims. That is if I got the timeframes correct.
Best n worst gundam girl from anime Worst: relena, nina, lacus, katejina, quess Best: Tiffa, Alenby, Roux, dorothy, Cecily, Haman, Kihel, Christina, Fa Best of the best: Aina
@@andrewowens4421 Only because she was still in grief for her father's death and seeing him die right in front of her would traumatize her. And because no one was able to help her deal with her pain, this would most likely lead her to commit actions that would lead to her down a dark path.
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![The History of Trowa [Gundam Wing Lore]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8Uxhugoa2kY/mqdefault.jpg)
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No matter the time, the place, or the continuity, she always: has a soft spot for Heero, always puts herself in danger, and always seems to be living on another planet lol
Honestly, I'm not really sure she realize half of what was going on during the terrorist attack. Even with a gun to her head she seemed more spaced-out than scared.
@@andrewowens4421 seriously I think she even surprised heero at times which is no easy feat girl is bat shit crazy lowkey
Relena's history: "I'm rich and I want the world to get along." emo guy: "I'mma kill you." Relena: "Oh I am INTO it."
Relena yelling "heero im here so come and kill me" cracks me up so much as if he says it so much it doesn't even phase her anymore lol
Yea it’s kinda hot tbh like in a playful sarcastic way not actual murder
Awesome pfp man
Ah yes , the tv version of novel Sayla . And her trademark line "Heero ! Im right here so come and kill me !"
Now you have me interested in Novel Sayla.
Relenas problem was that she needed a lot more attention than she got in a show that was already spread pretty thin in trying to balance time amongst all it's different characters. Especially, like all the women in the show, she is a is a representative character of a group or idea within the show. In the case of Relena it is the Sanq Kingdom and the ideals of Total Pasifism.
The show really needed to show her taking control of the Sanq Kingdom and learning it's philosophy while the 5 pilots were all in space dealing with Ozs take over. Unfortunately all we see is her show up at a Romafeller event once, and then don't see her at all for over 10 episodes.
One of these days I am really going to try get my fanfiction about that point of time written fully. Sigh. For I agree that story needs to be told.
@@robertdrexel2043 that sounds pretty cool, what kind of things do you plan to have happen?
Changing clothes 3 times faster than common men is part of Heero's protagonist training.
Char travels to another timeline just to teach Heero that
Still waiting on Heero Yui's development history
We need to hear Heero's backstory in order to definitely say that Wufei had the worst development history.
Unless Heero's backstory is that he was raised by braindead monkeys then it's pretty hard to have a worst backstory than Wufei.
I don’t see how Wufei has the worst, Quatre’s seems kinda lackluster in comparison
I remember the stuff in the manga where "Heero" accompanied his father, who was the assassin that shot Heero Yuy, while our "Heero" is responsible for injuring Treize, whom then met Leia Barton while he recuperated. And this is ignoring the clusterfudge what is Frozen Teardrop's prequel chapters.
Yup. Heero's Prequel story is pretty much being dragged along by Odin Lowe the man who shot the real Heero Yuy, and takes in Heero teaching him everything about his profession and a bit more. However, the prequel manga may have hinted that Odin is actually Heero's father, but it doesn't state it. That was something Frozen Teardrop introduced I believe. SPOILER WARNING!! Also if I remember that story right it shows the first meeting between the boy we later know as Heero Yuy and Doctor J after Odin gets himself killed by Dekim Barton who had hired Odin to kill General Septum who had been at the colony at the time.
@@robertdrexel2043 I thought it'd been confirmed that Odin Lowe was his father. Though having Trant as his uncle was as random as the name Middie Une.
Ya know I always remember her in the first opening, where she is brushing off snow on a toy bear that survived a battle. Ever touch snow at night? That's cold.
Yes but it also depends on where the snow came from
Was that actually snow or was that ash? As she was in the middle of a destroyed city or something like that.
Relena has a secret kink of wanting Heero to kill her like a suicide pact.
Pffff hahahahaha no girl nah
You know this girl only got so much hate because of the fact that she was interfering with the gay ships and it is seriously disturbing. Also she's not a bad character, she's supposed to be the token idealist that Wing Gundam dearly needed because no one was willing to try the peaceful solution. Also she's not wrong about her ideology, if national leaders weren't such idiotic pieces of s*** then maybe we could have actual piece.
The shippings had nothing to do with it.
And there's nothing wrong with her ideals.
But the way she tried to push such ideals, by placing herself in danger and complicating things because of her being totally reckless and having no common sense... yeah, that's what makes her annoying.
@@TheTrueBro Maybe for you shipping had nothing to do with the hate directed towards her but the majority of the Gundam Wing fandom it was because of the simple fact that all them kept on trying to ship the pilots with one another.
Relena is my favorite, bar none.
Five sexy guys in little shorts and tights and stuff? My little girl former self wasn't having it.
Relena? F&_k yeah!
Also the outfits! Seeing Hero almost shoot her in the most beautiful dress ever which she didn't want to wear was .. it was something to watch.
Did he stop because of what she was saying? Or because she was just that beautiful? Can't tell, like that though.
Edit: I know it's because she gave a speech and the people he was hoping he'd kill clapped. 😂😂😂
Ehh, “Absolute Pacifism” might be an interesting thought experiment if you don’t think about too hard, but having it as an actual foreign policy is just plain stupid. Best way to be a truly neutral nation is to be like pre-WW2 US (ie. speak softly and carry a big stick). Do your best to stay out of everyone’s business as much as reasonably possible, but make absolutely certain that the very first guy who messes with you regrets it for the next 100 years.
Idk why but this just seems so absolutely absurd to me. Like there are so many coincidences that all these people met before so many years before the show. Idk maybe releena just made it all up or something
DYK: Relena was inspired by MSG’s Sayla Mass.
Relena would later inspire Turn A’s Dianna Soreil, SEED/SEED Destiny’s Lacus Clyne and Cagalli Yula Athha, 00’s Marina Ismail, and IBO’s Kudelia Aina Bernstein.
Well since Sumisawa penned the Frozen Teardrops novel.. well its a retcon.
The boy who calls himself Black Alpha is actually Beta's (The Heero from the TV series) clone who went to earth to pursue its own mission.
The episode Zero manga was honest about saying that "Heero" has no record of travelling to Earth before the start of the TV series since that was Alpha.
Makes sense from this video, since the first episode of the anime is named "The Shooting Star She Saw "
Not enough Heero threatening to kill Relena.
Heero really went full secret agent reporting and planned on using her house as a hideout of shit gets nasty and relena really went “that’s hot”
I've only watched the show, but she didn't go "that's hot", she's just what you'd call an extreme pacifist 😊
They're all like punch punch, kill kill... She managed to get people to stop doing that by just talking to them.
That'a why a lot of prequel manga fall flat, try to bring more story and intrigue to the series, but just adds plotholes. I do like prequel manga to other manga that has existed, cause the writers of those prequels USUALLY are the same or they dont make more problems
Shrug. I agree with the flashback parts, but the parts of the boys getting ready for Operation Meteor was actually quite interesting and explored a bit more of those scenes from the flashback scenes in the anime.
@@robertdrexel2043 I liked the preparation scenes myself. I kinda wish it just focused on that a bit more
Well it was retconned in the frozen teardrops Novel
i feel like the real question from the first episode of Wing is, were there gundams in the AC timeline prior to Wing? because the phrase, 'those whove laid eyes on a gundam .. " meaning the idea of a gundam mobile suit is something that is known within this universe, meaning unlike most gundam timelines, these gundams arent the first.
Pretty bizarre to remember that Relena... In a Super Robot Wars manga... Shoots a goddamn Mechasaurus (from Getter Robo) with a bazooka!
Super Robot Wars makes everyone more badass than they'd be in their normal universe. It made Shinji from Evangelion straight badass. No wonder it was able to work some magic with Relena.
@@andrewowens4421 Problem with Shinji is that he has shit male role models and most of the women he interacts with have baggage of their own. It's a world in desperate need of therapists and there are none to be had.
@@andrewowens4421 A shame this moment is locked to a manga.
Because I love the idea of the more peaceful Gundam heroines being able to fight.
@@rock117rx2 Heh. Well we do have Kudelia from IBO, who while not really fighting or anything during the series, was there on the front lines a few times helping the heroes in other ways like helping getting the injured out of the line of fire. She also stayed behind with the heroes when everyone turned against them thanks to their stupid decisions. Then we have the other main female character in IBO Atra who really proved that while a girl she had balls when she managed to convince a couple of guys she was actually Kudelia that lead to them trying to beat her up. Still surprised Mikazuki didn't kill those guys right there when he learned what they did to Atra.
@@robertdrexel2043 I can only hope that the entirety of IBO is used in a proper SRW game. Rather than a just a mobile game, or DLC for 30.
Makes me wish they dubbed X after Wing. Tiffa Adill was so much a better female counterpart to Garrod Ran than Relena was to Heero. Tiffa WAS a major character in the story
So true and After War Gundam X is completely underrated.
I am a Gundam Wing Fan, it was the first Gundam series I ever saw, I love this anime despite it's flaws, And the Heero X Relena relationship was one one of those flaws and I agree with you Shaw Dawg.
@@andrewcdno6532 it is good, my biggest flaw besides that is the Gundams are basically proto Freedoms, way too overpowered
@@shawdawg3675 The Gundam being overpowered is something straight from the original MSG's first third where RX-78-2 were impervious to everything that the Zakus threw at it and the last third where Amuro just single-handedly killing Doms & Gelgoogs left & right and the only challenge to him was Elmeth, Char's Gelgoog & Zeong. In comparison, Freedom was a mid-show powerup but already facing equal challenge after only a handful of episodes after its debut by the Druggist Gundams (& Providence later on).
@@androyus dom surpass RX-78 on land, it only thanks to amuro ability it survive till the end OYW. Also prototype gundam got wrecked fighting bunch of zaku.
Meanwhile kira could easily kill those 3 druggies early on with justice help, instead he either just kick them or shot them with railgun. If it amuro, he already finish off those 3 during orb invasion n prevent more casualties
> This is *BLACK ALPHA*
Even his callsign is stupid edgy.
He was emo before it was cool
I haven't kept up with it in years, but I wonder if they ever got Frozen Teardrop fully fan translated
What does it take to end a war? Well, if both sides wish for peace and set aside their hatred... No. Warfare is nothing but a means of negotiation between states. Wars break out even when there is no hatred. Territory, resources, or interests that you are determined to own. Ideology, religion, pride. Wars are fought over those objectives all the time. Meaning that when those objectives are met, the war will end. That, or the war will end when the human cost outweighs the gains. Anger and hatred are only tools to tilt a war in your favor. I'm not interested in those emotions. So I wouldn't hate anyone just because they're Martian.
- Inaho Kaizuka
(Aldnoah.Zero)
That's just a paraphrase of Clausewitz.
2:09 that gundam wing music is so good.
dorothy is the best girl of gundam wing, no one beats the eyebrow :3
I liked episode zero - it was fun to get a little more history on all of them. But your critique is right for the whole thing - each story could have been it’s own book instead of it’s own chapter, they all feel rushed.
Love the series love the content love the channel I'm a a gundam wing lover
It would be epic to see an EW anime adaptation of Wing, from glory of the losers up until Frozen teardrop. In other words, a Gundam Wing remake.
Ever since I watched an abridged version, that's how I invision her now.
Relena meeting Heero on AC 191 does kind of retcon their first meeting, but we could take into consideration that, as years went on, she completely forgot about it, and started focusing on other things that were going on in her life.
Impressive yet unthinkable- this forsees how tragic fate and destiny would be for Relena and Heero
We need an OVA or anime series on Glory of Losers and Frozen Teardrop
Should the Gundam Origin Series would go out of Universal Century Era and go with the other Gundam Universes such as Cosmic Era, Anno Domini Era, and also the Gundam Build Universe: I'd definitely go with the After Colony Era
One way or another- how did the respective universes of G Gundam or Gundam X- affect the fates and furies of Relena and Heero?
And how will their actions shape what's next in the Gundam Universe- particularly:
What is Heero Yuy and Relena Peacecraft's contribution to the upcoming Cosmic Era?
*should all respective universes are united in just one single Gundam Universe Timeline
Can you make a lore of the two Heeros? There's Alpha and Beta Heeros right? The original and the clone... That would be an interesting topic.
I grew up with Gundam WIng and i really enjoyed the anime. I really want 2 see the manga sequel Frozen Teardrops seen made into an anime. Gundam Wing was so Fucking good and Relena was a well written character.
Great video, very informative!!!
Amazing job bro
As you did the best ace ms you should make the best grunt suits
Wish sunrise could adapt the Frozen teardrop light novel series into anime series..
I like these lore videos.
I'm amused that "Relena doesn't actually do anything" is one of the items on the "how to write a Gundam Wing prequel story" checklist.
If I'm interpreting this correctly, she never actually does get around to speaking a single word to Heero at any point during this manga, does she?
The most physical interaction they have is their eyes meet briefly. Other than that Heero hardly realized she existed.
Shrug. I remember a friend mentioning that they were trying to get their interactions short as to make their met up in Episode One a bit more impact or something to that effect.
Ah yes, Relena while memorable is also one of the worst characters in Gundam. At least her english VA get to do Sumeragi of Gundam 00 or at least that is what I was told. Personally, that alone is a redemption arc.
Part of the reason Relena was so bad is that she doesn't really grow during the series. She remains relatively same, which is frustratingly clueless about everything going on while trying to preach peace. She also puts herself into crazy situations because she believe Heero would always save her. Sure, _that's what happened_ but that doesn't make her decisions smart ones.
@@andrewowens4421 Yep she is your classic damsel in distress even when she doesn't act like it at times.
The english VA of Relana and Sumeragi also voiced Murrue Ramius from Gundam SEED/DESTINY.
I think that Relena got more of a redemption arc in Endless Walts when she told the world to stand up to Mariemaia's army and fight to preserve their own peace.
@@andrewcdno6532 Eh, not really. She didn't really contributed much.
I agree as far as this being a way to explain that sense a young age Relena has hated war given she's seen the horrors of them and a great way to bring Zechs into the story. Heero being in it is too much if the anime we have seen from day one we don't need more of it.
Trowa lore❎
Heero lore❎
Relena lore ✅
Peace without power is nothing but a tragedy waiting to happen
2:43 Zechs out here looking like Quatro
Awesome
Tbh,what made relena worse imo is that she kinda looks more at home in a shoujo manga than a gundam series...but also she does seem to have a simplified view of the world that just wasn't really realistic.
Would it blow your mind to find out that Gundam Wing was meant to be a shoujo series? Seriously, everything about it was meant to target the previously untapped market of the female audience. Making all the boys pretty boys, making all of the girls elegant, even the design of the suits themselves looking more feminine than previous iterations of Gundam.
Which makes it all the funnier when you know that toonami tried to play it as being this badass thing. Americans so often miss the point.
@@TacComControl the point wasn't missed we just reinterpreted the story from a different point of view . At that point a few shoujo anime had already been released so we got the frame of reference.
These wing prequel mangas always seem to over complicate things by contriving characters to meet way earlier than they do in the show or giving them some weird relation that doesn't really make any sense.
This really felt unnecessary. Honestly, if the basic concept of the story being pitched is a "history of Relena" I'd rather it focus on the fall of the Sanc Kingdom, her escape, and adoption into the Darlians. Similar to what Gundam The Origin did with young Sayla. Which, sure, Relena'd be too young to reasonably participate in this as a character, but it is nevertheless the most interesting thing about her which we don't actually get to see. Her inciting incident as a character is in the first episode of Gundam Wing and prior to that she was just, ya'know, a sheltered rich schoolgirl that needs no more examination than what we can easily infer from her early characterization.
Relena gets a lot of hate peace of how naive she sounds. Like dude you’re a kid you don’t know as much as you think you do.
I think it fits. Maybe it’s kind of her thing .
Let's do Heero next
Sentinel Gundam Alice AI video when
Can we get a providence gundam developmeny video??? Since we already have the freedom and justice.
i thought the binoculars were KitKat bars
if her history of relena and there must be Zach's Merquise the brother history past what he did get lore to now
Please cover the Frozen Teardrop light novel. Please please please. 🙇🙇🙇
relena being quiet? what madness is this?
This just doesn't work with the anime at all. This would be like saying in Star Wars that Luke and Leia met on some Tatooine-Alderaan exchange student program when they were 12. While not technically impossible, it's so insanely forced... Like they already had a pre-written template story and just edited in some details to fill a cliche.
Yup its a tallgeese
I had to stop watching the video the moment Heero showed up because... that's just dumb. I watched the rest after several minutes of rambling to myself over how ridiculous Gundam Wing and its lore is, and I think you summed it up pretty succinctly. Characters meeting each other before ever meeting each other, intertwined pasts and a whole lot of doing the same shit they would end up doing again later is lazy writing.
Actually the manga only implies its Heero, but like Kakarot mentioned they really should have had completely different boy, or even a girl (hello Middie Une!), filling Heero's role perfectly. Since about this time Heero is actually running around with the assassin Odin Lowe being taught by the man and not with any sort of terrorist/rebel group as the manga claims. That is if I got the timeframes correct.
I found Gundam Wing Episode Zero pretty Meh, and reaching in order to get some canon in... for all of the stories.
My favourite waifu ❤️
Stop it. Get some help.
Best n worst gundam girl from anime
Worst: relena, nina, lacus, katejina, quess
Best: Tiffa, Alenby, Roux, dorothy, Cecily, Haman, Kihel, Christina, Fa
Best of the best: Aina
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My least favorite character in NMRGW, but I shall watch and comment to offer what support I can to a quality channel. :)
Relena may not be super super likable but she’s no Sakura that’s for sure ..
After watching Gundam SEED
Flay Allster is FAR WORSE than Releena Peacecraft
Relena was frustratingly clueless. Flay was downright manipulative.
@@andrewowens4421 Flay was also clueless, and she changed her mind about coordinators at least 7 times in the show
Relena was super naive with all the pacifism talk, which got annoying. But she's nowhere as bad as the B*tch.
At least Flay Allster felt and acted like a real character unlike Releena Peacecraft.
@@andrewowens4421 Only because she was still in grief for her father's death and seeing him die right in front of her would traumatize her. And because no one was able to help her deal with her pain, this would most likely lead her to commit actions that would lead to her down a dark path.
Shes on the spectrum
Ah, best girl in all of Gundam
Hmm.. she is one of the best, but I think someone like Atra from IBO is far better in my opinion.
I suspect that Relena is Mumei, she always forgor