the variations of the sax across different live performances makes this a different experience each time. this one makes me think "im anxious but eventually everything will be groovy"
@@RobertSlover You're everything I want to be and more. Your deep understanding and critical thinking are genius level. Everyone should take example from what you teach by living through you. Thank you.
The "Messina" is such a magical miracle wonder machine that makes one thing sound like many things at the same time in a beautiful unpredictable way. Please roll it out as a plug-in already!
it's actually not a plug in, the Messina is the live version of the prismizer which was made by Francis and the lights and he explained that the Messina and the prismizer are achieved by using specific settings and options in the Antares harmony engine. You can find the tweet in the bon iver reddit
@@somethinglike229 I think Tom just means that they should try to remake it into a plug-in so it's more widely available. I mean damn, that would be cool!
The Messina does not use Antares Harmony Engine. It was simply inspired by the Prismizer. It’s actually the MIDIHARM setting on Eventide effect processors + Antares auto-tune.
abhijeet baliga agreed and I swear sax is one of the most pwerful instruments ever invented. It's almost shook me to to my core and loosened me up no matter how locked up I get.
I was there. It - the whole Michel Berger Music festival - was the best musical experience I've ever had.. The whole setup of the festival was just amazing..
CS IHDA i wouldn't say that we are lucky the complete European tour was cancelled and I am still heartbroken about it even more so since I considered going to this festival but decided not to because of the announcement of the European tour.
The signature sound of Bon Iver. It is twistedly beautiful and so unperfectly perfect in everyway...much like each one of us. That is why I think it has an appeal to me. Justin seems so willing to open himself up through exploration and vulnerability.
@@icecreammmmman1991 no. it absolutely is not. reverb, delay, etc does not alter the pitch in a way to mimic a melodic line. autotune is cheating period.
Pretty sure Justin Vernon can sing just fine without "autotune" and therefore doesn't need to cheat. He's using it as an effect, not because he can't hit the notes. The purpose of the Messina is to allow the user to harmonize a single input in real time. That's not "cheating," it's engineering ingenuity that expands the possibilities of music. You don't like the way it sounds, that's cool - some people don't like it.
@@icecreammmmman1991 its not auto harmonizing that would be cool it alters the melodic line being "sung" its not about subjective taste its objectively obvious. there's a reason shallow modern pop music uses it. justin vernon first record "for emma forever ago" was as stripped down as possible thats what makes it great and will last the test of time.
I’ve downloaded as many full length Bon Iver concerts as I can find and add them to my playlists. As homed and crafted and perfect as his albums are, it’s amazing to hear them get even better played live.
This guy is the best sax player I have ever heard. There is another live performance by him with Bon Iver which is even better than this...he really lets rip and blows your head apart....looking for it now [edit - found it...Michicant at the Sydney Opera House - arguably one of the best sax performances in human history...I wish I could have been there to witness it live].
I would lie if I said i didn't feel quite lucky and privileged to have seen a very similar version of this piece performed along with Aaron and Bryce Dessner upfront and live at Haven Festival. Pure magic.
i dreamt of small a village, of me sleeping therein in a hut, and of the horseback militia falling downhill towards that village, and the family of wolves howling at their lanterns. My lady, my dearest, lifts the curtain with a knowing smile, to let me know, that we've been here before, that she wants nothing more than a good fight. I asked her who they were, who these forces lighting up the night were, and she sang back, like a hunter whose trap was full: 'Muss-a-been Forces'. and we howled uphill like steam.
i like when justin uses the vocoder but i like his raw voice so much more. i wish he couldve ditched it for this song. not hating! new bon iver is the best bon iver!
the saxophone is miked up and going into a harmonizer which justin is controlling using midi from his keyboard (someone correct me if i'm wrong this is how i achieve a similar effect)
He plays harmonies over the sax track with a self made modification for the autotune plug in called the Messina which was created by his sound engineer Chris Messina together with Vernon. It allows Justin to control the harmonies pretty much free of latency.
Not sure about the drums at the climax of the song kinda fuxs with my mental vision o the song if that makes any sense.. Or it's not the direction in tone I'd like for I to take at that time NO HATE THOUGH JUSTIN VERNON IS PROBABLY THE BES SINGER SONGWRITER DOIN IT NOW
Song of the day 08.09.2017/ this time i merely overstayed my welcome, the burghers could no longer hold their breaths, grew weary of the constant racketing of my 'getting ready'. "A fool, despite all his other faults, has this too: he's always getting ready to live."----perhaps i'm especially such a fool, in that I'm always getting ready to leave----and then never arrive. Well, I'm here. And as the good song goes, THERE'S NO LEAVING NOW.
I get the appeal of improvising or providing a 'unique' experience of the song for a live show, but Bon Iver really really strays far from the studio version in almost every live show I've seen on youtube... like he is incapable of performing a song live in the way it sounds on the album. Kinda disappointing.
Nobody would see live shows if it weren't for the album... people go to see an artist live because they liked the music they bought from them... I'm not saying he should perform "exact copies" but in all the live shows I've seen of his most recent album, they aren't even close... and they don't even sound as good, they're just mostly weak improvisational versions. Like this one or the Blogotheque version of 8 (circle)... I couldn't even finish that version, it was just garbage.
I disagree.. seeing bon iver live, as I have done, is an experience rather than just a live performance of their studio work. Justin and the band create raw, spontaneous emotion with an incredible atmosphere! The pure silence and engagement from the audience is incredible and moving. Only achieved by performing like this in my opinion. However, i do love the banjo style on the studio version of this track!
I think it's just a case by case thing. I agree with you on that 8 Circle version not being up to album snuff, but i could also link like 10 videos of them performing songs live at a level much higher than the album. For example, ruclips.net/video/OOGnPsSikEQ/видео.html
Apollonian Germ I think music should be the other way around. Live performance is so much more of an intimate and amazing experience than listening to a record. I really hope I get to see these guys live someday!
rob slover sorry rob but he’s not using auto tune to fix his voice or anything. I hate it for that, he’s using it as an instrument-like it’s a synth or talkbox. Not everyone’s favorite but certainly not a disqualification for musicianship
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the variations of the sax across different live performances makes this a different experience each time. this one makes me think "im anxious but eventually everything will be groovy"
Mike Lewis is one of my favorite musicians of all time. His sax playing never ceases to amaze me. Anyone who likes him should check out Happy Apple!
Whatever God is, I feel closer to it when I listen to certain live Justin Vernon performances. This is one of those performances.
Brittany Perkins God loves you so much that He literally died for you my friend. This piece is certainly transcendental
what a narrow and shallow understanding.....
@@RobertSlover You're everything I want to be and more. Your deep understanding and critical thinking are genius level. Everyone should take example from what you teach by living through you. Thank you.
@@Rowan_C ?
@@RobertSlover he's making fun of you because you're behaving like a bigoted douche ;)
The "Messina" is such a magical miracle wonder machine that makes one thing sound like many things at the same time in a beautiful unpredictable way. Please roll it out as a plug-in already!
it's actually not a plug in, the Messina is the live version of the prismizer which was made by Francis and the lights and he explained that the Messina and the prismizer are achieved by using specific settings and options in the Antares harmony engine. You can find the tweet in the bon iver reddit
@@somethinglike229 I think Tom just means that they should try to remake it into a plug-in so it's more widely available. I mean damn, that would be cool!
@@tueblom8181 it is a plugin, Antares Harmony Engine
The Messina does not use Antares Harmony Engine. It was simply inspired by the Prismizer. It’s actually the MIDIHARM setting on Eventide effect processors + Antares auto-tune.
That New Orleans style back beat... my goodness that changed everything about this song.
music is a gracious gift.
The guy with the sax is a genius!
vernon is playing the chords for him. it wouldnt sound like that without the both of them.
abhijeet baliga agreed and I swear sax is one of the most pwerful instruments ever invented. It's almost shook me to to my core and loosened me up no matter how locked up I get.
Its actually the other way around. Vernon is playing the chords based on the sax.
Is it Colin Stetson?
okascent no Colin Stetson isn’t with them anymore. This is the talented Michael Lewis!
I'd pay cash for more Bon Iver videos from you guys.
capitalist swine!
I was there. It - the whole Michel Berger Music festival - was the best musical experience I've ever had.. The whole setup of the festival was just amazing..
Oh you Europeans are so lucky.
CS IHDA i wouldn't say that we are lucky the complete European tour was cancelled and I am still heartbroken about it even more so since I considered going to this festival but decided not to because of the announcement of the European tour.
The whole Bon Iver European tour got canceled. So we're not *that* lucky
The signature sound of Bon Iver. It is twistedly beautiful and so unperfectly perfect in everyway...much like each one of us. That is why I think it has an appeal to me. Justin seems so willing to open himself up through exploration and vulnerability.
Michael Lewis on saxophone
I wish I could find the whole of this performance in this quality. Wow.
Blake Davison check out the npr front row video of the performance at Pioneer works in NYC
It's a weird song.
It's a great song.
using auto tune should be a instant disqualifier as a "musician" for emma forever ago is amazing, but this is disappointing....
@@RobertSlover obviously Justin can sing. It's a sound effect, like reverb or anything else
@@icecreammmmman1991 no. it absolutely is not. reverb, delay, etc does not alter the pitch in a way to mimic a melodic line. autotune is cheating period.
Pretty sure Justin Vernon can sing just fine without "autotune" and therefore doesn't need to cheat. He's using it as an effect, not because he can't hit the notes. The purpose of the Messina is to allow the user to harmonize a single input in real time. That's not "cheating," it's engineering ingenuity that expands the possibilities of music. You don't like the way it sounds, that's cool - some people don't like it.
@@icecreammmmman1991 its not auto harmonizing that would be cool it alters the melodic line being "sung" its not about subjective taste its objectively obvious. there's a reason shallow modern pop music uses it. justin vernon first record "for emma forever ago" was as stripped down as possible thats what makes it great and will last the test of time.
That Performance healed my soul.
Kartik Kukrety it healed my asssoul
This is "Sunday afternoon" beautiful.
My favorite version of this so far.
Beautiful song. Gives me strength tun this difficult time. Slava urkaine
this is the best song ever created
this has to be one of the most amazing things I've seen from any artist
The sax intro to this song is just damn thicc, then the switch to the soft backing instrument when Justin comes in is so damn lovely.
I love this version of this song, the drums are great.
Amazing!
Can we get a live album already?
finally got a live Blood Band EP!!
I’ve downloaded as many full length Bon Iver concerts as I can find and add them to my playlists. As homed and crafted and perfect as his albums are, it’s amazing to hear them get even better played live.
This was the best evening of my life so far. Absolutely amazing.
this is honestly my favorite piece of music. beautiful and haunting and all the things yall.
God bless America for Justin Vernon and Bon Iver :))
Damn good beat starts at 3:35
They could play that for an hour straight and I would listen to the whole thing
I still have yet to see these guys live, can’t wait
Those Sax Layers tho. My lord
He is playing it it the Messina
This guy is the best sax player I have ever heard. There is another live performance by him with Bon Iver which is even better than this...he really lets rip and blows your head apart....looking for it now [edit - found it...Michicant at the Sydney Opera House - arguably one of the best sax performances in human history...I wish I could have been there to witness it live].
Bon iver is freaking amazing. Music needs them. Soooo much crap out there.
holy fuck
yeah, this
holy funk
First time listening will be deeper than any other time u listen
In love with this...
I would lie if I said i didn't feel quite lucky and privileged to have seen a very similar version of this piece performed along with Aaron and Bryce Dessner upfront and live at Haven Festival. Pure magic.
jealous!!
Who is the drummer? He's just PERFECT.
Sean Carey!
I wish I could noodle with these guys
This live was unreal
Fire, fire.
I was there! It was insane 😍
this is incredible
this sounds fucking phenomenal.
i know the full performance is out there somewhere with this production quality and it's so painful it's not available anymore
RUclips needs to add a ‘love’ button for videos.
I am not here to be pretentious but that was fucking great !!!!!!
William Coupland I *am indeed* here to be pretentious, and I fully second your most excellent assertion.
Magical Flames 🔥
This is sick
I stayed down the other night
존좋
That saxophone is so sexy! Love ü J!
*SEXophone ;)
Ahahahahahahaha
i dreamt of small a village, of me sleeping therein in a hut, and of the horseback militia falling downhill towards that village, and the family of wolves howling at their lanterns. My lady, my dearest, lifts the curtain with a knowing smile, to let me know, that we've been here before, that she wants nothing more than a good fight. I asked her who they were, who these forces lighting up the night were, and she sang back, like a hunter whose trap was full: 'Muss-a-been Forces'. and we howled uphill like steam.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOY WTF ARE YOU ON
It would appear the man has written an anecdote about colonial American racism. I could be wrong. Either way, I found it quite fascinating to read.
Hope youre writing books. Just my opinion ;p
Dying at the fucking replies to this comment shisdjkadnfk
i like when justin uses the vocoder but i like his raw voice so much more. i wish he couldve ditched it for this song. not hating! new bon iver is the best bon iver!
Vernon will always use vocal effects in his music. It's time to accept it and enjoy it.
he doesn't need it "ALL" THE TIME!!!(vocorder)
my only criticism it was amazing @ Sydney!!! with no effects added period!!
fuxin drum!!! good
What sort of pedal action / effects is the saxophonist using?
Messina (sp?)
yup it's the Messina
How does Justin modify the saxophone? What equipment is he using?
the saxophone is miked up and going into a harmonizer which justin is controlling using midi from his keyboard (someone correct me if i'm wrong this is how i achieve a similar effect)
Matt Suddarth Prismizer
He plays harmonies over the sax track with a self made modification for the autotune plug in called the Messina which was created by his sound engineer Chris Messina together with Vernon. It allows Justin to control the harmonies pretty much free of latency.
Thank you Will.
Not as good as Bill Clinton but pretty damn good.
Josh Greenlee genius comment
Josh you made me throw up in my mouth.
JAZZ
Having fun, not taking anything too serious and semi-improvising. Getting there.
Don't know why but I like to imagine he's pissing him off altering the sax with the keyboard
Bone Either
Not sure about the drums at the climax of the song kinda fuxs with my mental vision o the song if that makes any sense..
Or it's not the direction in tone I'd like for I to take at that time
NO HATE THOUGH JUSTIN VERNON IS PROBABLY THE BES SINGER SONGWRITER DOIN IT NOW
I was here!!! What is this band called??
bon iver!
😯
Song of the day 08.09.2017/ this time i merely overstayed my welcome, the burghers could no longer hold their breaths, grew weary of the constant racketing of my 'getting ready'. "A fool, despite all his other faults, has this too: he's always getting ready to live."----perhaps i'm especially such a fool, in that I'm always getting ready to leave----and then never arrive.
Well, I'm here.
And as the good song goes, THERE'S NO LEAVING NOW.
19/07/2021: I dreamt last night of Elie, I wish him well
Does anybody know the Sax players name?
Bleeding gums Murphy
I’m a little late but his name is Michael Lewis!
Love Justin's music. He should stick to that rather than politics.
I get the appeal of improvising or providing a 'unique' experience of the song for a live show, but Bon Iver really really strays far from the studio version in almost every live show I've seen on youtube... like he is incapable of performing a song live in the way it sounds on the album. Kinda disappointing.
If you want to listen to the album then listen to the album. Live should be live not an exact copy.
Nobody would see live shows if it weren't for the album... people go to see an artist live because they liked the music they bought from them... I'm not saying he should perform "exact copies" but in all the live shows I've seen of his most recent album, they aren't even close... and they don't even sound as good, they're just mostly weak improvisational versions. Like this one or the Blogotheque version of 8 (circle)... I couldn't even finish that version, it was just garbage.
I disagree.. seeing bon iver live, as I have done, is an experience rather than just a live performance of their studio work. Justin and the band create raw, spontaneous emotion with an incredible atmosphere! The pure silence and engagement from the audience is incredible and moving. Only achieved by performing like this in my opinion. However, i do love the banjo style on the studio version of this track!
I think it's just a case by case thing. I agree with you on that 8 Circle version not being up to album snuff, but i could also link like 10 videos of them performing songs live at a level much higher than the album. For example, ruclips.net/video/OOGnPsSikEQ/видео.html
Apollonian Germ I think music should be the other way around. Live performance is so much more of an intimate and amazing experience than listening to a record. I really hope I get to see these guys live someday!
using auto tune should be a instant disqualifier as a "musician" for emma forever ago is amazing, but this is disappointing....
ridiculous take, bob.
@@SanityMachinethis from "sanitymachine" im good thanks....
rob slover sorry rob but he’s not using auto tune to fix his voice or anything. I hate it for that, he’s using it as an instrument-like it’s a synth or talkbox. Not everyone’s favorite but certainly not a disqualification for musicianship
@@brycebaliko7050 yes it is. you no content bot.
rob slover respectfully sir, I believe there are two public videos on my channel