In these days no matter what your major is , the more important your skills your made projects your practiular things your soft skills and many things etc...
Yup, having the degree matters, and having it be related to your field is helpful (but not always necessary). What is way more important though is just being able to do what they are hiring you to do.
I did Computer Science and I regret it. There was no practical use of most stuff i learnt. Do IT or IS first. Then go into CS to better your understanding. Don't start with CS
I’ve searched extensively for straightforward explanations on differences between IT and Computers Science and thank you for being the best Right to the point, clear, and easy to understand
very interesting information. I was sure that my path was a computer science degree. It turns out it might not be the best choice. Thanks...I'll think about it
From a UK perspective I did business computing ,we had to write a dissertation at the end which is a normal with regards to British degrees, The first couple of years specialised in network security then after that I did business computing which was quite good actually… And the reason why you have to do quite a big piece of research at the end it’s because it’s teaching you to become a researcher which is useful if moving onto a Masters or PhD.
Currently in my 2nd year of BSIT, I plan to focus on networking because advanced maths and programming just seems hard for me, plus I've always been more fascinated into the hardware aspect of computers. Do you think I could still easily find a job just retaining my full knowledge on networking and basic python (for networking) and maybe DBMS stuffs and maybe retaining just the most basic knowledge and syntax on C and C++??
Hey Mark, thank you for this video! I'm majoring in Mechanical Engineering and minoring in CS. I enjoy computers and believe the CS minor on my resume would give me extra favor to any future employers. However, I'm not even halfway through the CS minor and I'm not enjoying the heavy coding that is involved with CS at all.. I am considering changing my minor to IT instead. So my questions is, do you think an IT minor on my resume is just as beneficial as a CS minor would be? BTW, I just saw in a previous video that you went to UCF. That's where I'm going!
Go Knights! With a Mechanical Major I'm tempted to say IT could potentially even be a better minor. I'm trying to picture where you are thinking on going with these major/minor combos. Either way I'm not thinking it will make a whole ton of difference. As an ME I tend to think having either one would just prove you will be adept at using the systems you use as an ME (which is a good thing). If you end up in Szumlanski's class tell him I said Hi.
@@MarkEndsley Go Knights! So my primary motivation for the minor is to simply have extra qualifications for employers; and like you said, it will prove my adaptability. Haha I will! I have one more question if you don't mind answering. So the classes need for an IT minor at UCF are Intro to C (which I already have taken), Database Concepts, Computer Architecture Concepts, Operating System Concepts, and Fundamentals of Information Technology. Do you think these classes have less coding involved when compared to classes such as Intro to C or Object Oriented Programing?
I got two questions, sorry if this is too long 🙏🏾: 1.) In my university, The CIS (Computer Information Systems) degree has four concentrations (Business Analytics, Cybersecurity, Network/Management, and Software Development) Choosing one will require you to take a few more high leveled CIS classes unique to that concentration, which are about 5-6 extra classes. There is also a fifth option to select No Concentration, which means less classes, but you have to choose three high level CIS classes from any of the four concentrations. Do you think it’s worth selecting a concentration or just stick with no concentration? I’m the kind of person who constantly changes his mind, I’m shifting between either Analytics or Cybersecurity, and I can only choose one. Is it still possible to find the same jobs with no concentration required? 2.) Do you know the difference between a BBA (Bachelor Of Business Administration) and a BS (Bachelor Of Science)? The CIS degree here has two versions, BBA CIS and BS CIS. Each one looks the same to me in terms of classes, and has the same concentrations as mentioned above. Does the choice even matter?
1) If there is a concentration that you like, then I'd go with that. If not leave it blank. Try to find something you can focus on your resume though. 2) BS is generally considered better for more technical people, but I don't know how much of a difference it actually makes compared to the skills you have.
@@MarkEndsleyHello Mark, I’m in a similar boat to the poster above. I’m enrolled in IT BS degree at SNHU… they tell us we can have a concentration in cybersecurity, software development, data analytics, or IT management. We can also bypass a concentration… but will have to take other IT elective courses. I’m not really sure where I would like to go, I would like to one day become a system admin or network engineer. On the one hand I think maybe learning about security could help at least understanding from that angle. It’s crazy because all of these things are interesting.
Hey Mark, thank you for this video! I had a question however. I’m going into my first freshman year and am going to major in business administration with a focus in operations/ business analytics and a minor in computer information technology. Could all these areas combined land me a manager position for an IT company or really in any very good paying tech job with a managerial requirement. My university doesn’t offer an MIS degree and I didn’t want to go straight into CS so I figured that’s what’s best, unless you think combining certain other areas would benefit more! Thank you
So the short answer is yes you can do that, but at many organizations you will need more qualifications than just the degree to land a management role out of the gate. That being said, in a start up you can be a manager with almost any experience if you have the desire.
Hey great insight, left a like and subscribed. I have an associates degree mostly comprised of businesses courses such as accounting/economics. My math is pretty poor but I want to finish a BS in CS, IST, or something similar. I have about a semester before I start but have no experience w coding. Any recommendations on a free course to help jumpstart me before I start school? I also have a MacBook Air so I would be bound to iOS
Thanks for subscribing! There is a website called repl.it that I suggest for starting out with coding. I also have some old C programming tutorials out there
What do you think/say about the CS majors who talk down to IT majors? I talked to two redditor's and they both said that IT people are failed CS people and claimed that IT degrees are useless and people are only in IT because they didn't want to tough it out in CS. I said there was so many factors involved and it wasn't all cut and dry and they called me naively unrealistic. They said IT programs are easy and you don't have to study....I responded by saying it depends on the curriculum and the person. What is your response to those types of people?
Anyone that puts that much emphasis on the specific degree doesn't know what they are talking about. The skills you have are what pay the bills, a degree just gets your foot in the door and exposes you to said skills. IT degrees are certainly not useless, as I'm doing very well after getting mine. I had to study plenty hard in my IT degree. My response would basically be to not waste too much time arguing with them. I just did a video on this you may want to check it out.
I have a quick question and want some opinions on it, I currently major in CIT in my university but I absolutely hate programming, I can't stand doing it and I struggled with the "weed out courses" such as OOP and Data Structures and Algorithms. If I change my major to Information Systems, and while doing my degree I get certifications like Network+, Security+ CompTIA etc etc, would I have a good chance in getting into the compliance/governance fields of Cyber security?
I’m stuck on the “Design” part of IS. What type of design. Graduating with an Associates in Visual Design. My goal is not really graphic design. I’m really into product design. Although universities (at least in Virginia) haven’t caught up to the times yet with a specific degree in Product Design. I’m a strong illustrator. With my research I’ve discovered IS is good for product design because most of Product design is ideation and concepts of products. I want to do the physical products. There is industrial design but I don’t know I want to do 4 year as I am pushing 30 years old. It would probably make the most sense but I’ll be almost 35 before I’m done with school. Which idk about.
Trust me, it's fine. I graduated when I was around 29. Nobody cares anymore, as long as you still look relatively young (which you do in your profile picture) you'll be fine.
Wow thank you very much this video really explain on what i should major in,im not at the best at maths but i do know how to solve intermediate level problem,I’ve seen the algorithm,data structures,discrete maths,calculus etc those are high level maths which i can get into it so i think i should choose IT because since it’s in the middle from those 2 and i also do enjoy programming and doing small type of management/business. But im concern what type of maths do IT learn?
In the normal mathematics, I went up to Trig, after that you do Discrete mathematics and most of the computer science subjects (Computer Science, Object Oriented Programming) I think I have a video out there where I go through all of it.
Hi could I ask to you. I'm from Bachelor Degree Electronics Engineering that used to hands on with C++ program. Now, I join free-courses Data Science with Python and I love that bcs I think it is easier than C++ and I like The Data Visualization through Histogram, Plot, Scatter, etc. I want to pursue my Master Degree, but in my country Master Degree of Data Science is not available. There are only Master Degree in Information Technology and Computer Science. What should I choose?
This is a very hard question to answer. Information Technology might be better for getting jobs at this point, since you already have a very technical bachelors. Computer science might be more fun for you, because of what you are interested in. I'd say IT is more practical, CS is more fun. And don't worry too much, with either one you should be set to find a job. Disclaimer: I don't know what country you are in, so I might not be the best person to ask for advice if you are applying locally.
hello if i wanna continue cybersecurity in masters (people told me cybersecurity does not have degree in bachelor) should i do cs or IT or both works if i wnna continue cyber
I want to go into the IS, (cause i kinda suck at math and im into both business and tech) ...What are your thoughts on getting an IT degree specializing in IS ? I dont know anything about programming but i know a lot about the business and management side .. do you think i should just go for a IS degree or do the IT with a specialization in IS degree?(For someone like me)
You will likely have to program with an IT degree, if you are willing to learn it (which I would recommend) then I'd say IT is a great path to go for management. Knowing technical stuff gives you an edge when trying to first get into management. If you don't want to touch programming then go IS. Also if you are ok with doing programming in school, either way would be valid. It really depends on which skills you think you already have, and which you are looking to build (management vs. technical). Then combine that with what you are ok doing in school.
@@MarkEndsley Thank you for the advice. I'll consider it along side my plans. I will build my technical side and add on to the management side. I did start learning programming and its not so hard (yet). So I'll try what i can on either side of Management and Tech
Hey Mark, I am about to graduate from a community college with an IT major. But besides IT, I'm very intrigued about business side of things and eventually I would love to be in a project management position. While doing IT in a programming concentration, I really enjoyed Database Management class. I obviously would love to transfer to a Different University and finish my bachelors. What would you recommend out of these 3 that I should take. (Also, I didn't rly liked the programming courses especially taking it online.)
@@Obito_17-52 well IT is very broad. There are obviously different concentration you can take. I myself Took programming. But, there are concentration such as cybersecurity, networking where not a lot of programming required.
I’m currently in AP Comp Sci A as a senior in highschool. I’m very torn between IS and CS. I’m doing ok in the class and I do enjoy programming to some extent. I do enjoy programming but I’ve had some very difficult topics in my class so I’m a bit worried at how difficult this could get. My only concern with IS is that there isn’t enough programming. I’m starting to think that IT might me a good blend. Do you have any thoughts on this? I’m not sure if I should just go all out on computer science or go with IT.
If you like programming I would recommend IT or CS. To choose between the two I would recommend looking closely at the individual IT program (some are more technical than others), and think about how you feel with higher level math.
The Bachelors in IT with an emphasis on Cyber Security is what I did and that alone was worth it. I'd recommend using your time in school to get yourself an internship, especially if you can find one that is in networking or close to it. Yes, it is worth it.
Hey there, Ill be honest I am on my third major change and I am considering Information Security because most of my credits will transfer over. However, I am concerned in the long run it would look bad if I apply to jobs for Computer programming vs someone with a CS degree. Should I not worry and just do the IS degree because I can complete it faster or do u recommend just doing the CS degree.
If you are looking to be a programmer I wouldn't recommend switching to IS unless you are ok with it being harder to find a job. You can with an IS degree but it will be harder.
What is the better as a salary and job Information technology and computer system information , information technology game developers, I aplied for them qll but don’t know what is better and hardest at the same time I don’t like coding,programming What I mean by programming I mean Like a paython and other But really skepical about them can u giving me advice I have only these days to decide
Hi Mark. I have a DLIS certificate and right now I'm pursuing my Bachelor of Information and knowledge Management ( knowledge Management) 3rd year. I would also like to do my masters... Maybe in data science. I'm not sure.. What would you recommend I do for my masters? Thank you
That really depends a lot on you. I'm doing Information Systems Engineering and it's not bad. One thing thing I found is that Master's programs can vary even more than Bachelors.
Security is it's own beast, and it is a new one. I think any of these degrees could be the best depending on the type of security. Security goes all the way from analyzing NIST documents to code reviews. The more technical you want to be, the more I'd gravitate to CS, the less I'd gravitate to IS. Network stuff IT is a great fit. There is more effort to be put into getting into security itself than choosing one of these degrees though.
You mentioned that you are working as a developer, but your degree is in IT. Is that common? I've seen programs for IT with concentrations in app development, but a lot of people are saying that CS is for developers and IT isn't. What's the real deal? I have a business degree and I want to move into SWD/SWE, but to get a CS degree I basically have to redo all of undergrad, since most MS programs require a BS in CS. Can an IT degree get me where I want to go?
I'm a developer in an IT department, and that is not uncommon with an IT degree. CS degree also works great as well. If all you want to do is be a developer I would say CS could be a better choice, but you can do it with an IT degree as well. Skills are what matter.
Hi. Thanks for this video. Because of this distinction, I have decided to apply to JHU for the Information Systems Engineering course. After having seen the curriculum, I might be a right fit. However, I don’t have a STEM undergrad background. I am a self-taught Junior Dev who went to Bootcamp. Do you think I might have a chance to get into the program?
I'm in that program now. It is hard for me to say how hard it is to get in because I just got in on my first try. You should be well equipped for the curriculum, it isn't as technical as a dev job. best of luck
Hey I’m currently taking a computer information systems class, and majoring in CIS overall. It seems like a lot of data and analytics, and business. The thing is, it doesn’t really interest me as much as something like IT would. Growing up I was always the go to guy for my family to fix technology, it was nothing major but still. I was even able to fix a laptop a couple years ago, it had a black screen and would not boot, and now it works fine. So I was going to ask, should I get certificates in IT, or should I stay and get my associates in CIS? Can I still get a decent entry level IT job with a CIS associates degree? Honestly I don’t mind making 50k a year, I’m not money hungry to the point where I want to make 100k a year so idk if I want to pursue my bachelors if I get the associates. Any advice would be great, thanks!
Hey, I’m going to answer your question 100% based off what I think and what I’ve witnessed/seen in the industry... First off, a degree is worth more to jobs than certifications. Certs are just an added bonus. (Thats if you don’t have any previous work in the industry). That being said, if you’re going for basic IT jobs then there’s 2 good and basic certs to get, IT fundamentals and CompTia A+. Both of those could definitely get you a job without a degree. But it would look REALLY good if you got the Associates plus the 2 certs that I’ve mentioned.
@@skylarmasson6530 thank you, I think I will get my associates and some certs like you said, my associates in CIS could potentially get me a higher role, maybe like an IT manager but idk because it’s an associates and not a bachelors
@@skylarmasson6530 that’s also what I’m doing, I’m at community college since it’s cheaper. And that’s true, do you have your bachelors in CIS? And what career did you end up getting? Sorry for the questions, but I don’t know many people majoring in CIS
I disliked computer science because of the “theory” stuff. It just seemed boring. The programming classes were okay. I would say IT which I switched to was more hands on. The class included labs and seemed more technical which I prefer. It has a more practical use compared to learning about math theories. The math wasn’t terrible but I feel computer science should be more related to programming and learning the practical languages. Having either degree though won’t get you a job in themselves. You need to study, use what you learn and make something. Both degrees also despite being in IT world have different career paths. With CS you should be learning programming and with IT you need to learn support and learn about hard ware, how to help an end user use a program and infrastructure. They are different careers and things within the IT world.
I very much like what I do. I work Hybrid, meaning I'm mostly remote but come in sometimes. I don't travel much except for tech conferences which I really enjoy.
Hi! I really loved this video since I’ve been considering whether to go CS or IT… I’m considering going cybersecurity (but there’s no cybersecurity specific course where I am) and my dream is to become a hacker,, which do you suggest? Or game development, which course would be better? Thank you in advance if you see this 😁
Game Dev is hell, don't do it unless you REALLY want it. Cybersecurity is more paperwork & policy than you think, but it is a good an exciting career today. If you want to be a hacker, you pretty much just have to be a hacker, no college can (or will) teach you that. Honestly either route can get you in. Focus on what you love.
I can't be sure without checking, but honestly the name of the degree could matter more to employers. Downside is it is obscure, upside is that it hits all the buzzwords
I won a 27k scholarship for Uni of Oregon (#1 school in my state) but the only major is CIS (comp. information science) But I want to major in CS which is a different school. What should I do? My goal for life is to be a Backend Software Engineer. What should I do? I don't have a scholarship for the school with the CS major. University Of Oregon vs Oregon State Uni . Can you give me feedback please mark.
That's a tough one, free money is hard to turn down. You need to talk with the right people, be honest about what you want and see what the possibilities are. If you really are locked into CIS, you could make that work for the job you want to do. You'll just need to build some of the skills yourself. Also don't be too sure about you future aspirations, you'll learn a lot more in college than skills. You may learn things about the industry and the world that change what you want to do going forward. Whatever you do, keep moving forward, make the best decisions you can, and stay positive!
That is a really hard one. I tend to think the more technical the degree the more marketable but that isn't always the case. In any case, your skills will more decide your marketability than your degree will.
I'm about to finish my associates in CIS next year, are there any jobs that you could recommend for recent graduates? I appreciate your knowledge and experience.
Unfortunately I'm not really in the job space. Get an internship if you still have time! aside from that search for words like "Junior" when searching jobs.
It really depends on how set you are on being on the technology side of things. a Major in MIS can put you on the management side of technology where finance generally doesn't. A minor wouldn't help as much as a major. This also depends on how much time you are willing to spend.
Thank you for this informational vid sir!. I'm already on my 12th grade now and I'm thinking of getting BSIS for college. The thing is, I don't have any background or knowledge regarding to this field, will I do fine in college if I take is? Am I too late to learn about it?. I'd be glad if you will answer this sir. Thank you very much!!!!!
Hi İ am studying at Bilkent University in Turkey, My department is CTİS, İnformation systems, and technologies, it is üritten like that, what is your opinion about my department, does it have any requirements for working by the way I started new
I'm very far from qualified to give an opinion on your department. I know Turkey is a respected country for education, and otherwise ,but that is about as far as I can go.
My Uni requires me to minor in business while majoring IT. I also have 1 or 2 engineering classes. Idk why they’d make me minor in business because that’s just ISM.
Hello Mark, I'm an information systems engineering student, just finished my first semester, I have done courses in basic math atm and intro to computer science in python and C, next semester I have data analysis course and math and more programming courses in java and C and stuff like operating systems. And just like you mentioned in the more advanced years I have project management and even psychology courses and financial management. Now what I wanted to ask, as an introvert and shy person myself Im not sure if I will be able to really enjoy IS work as you explained it's more of management type of work. Do you think I should switch to cs even if it might take to redo all the courses? Or in any degree I would need to work on my personality anyway and if Im enjoying the courses I should stick to information systems?
Great question, first off, don't think being an introvert would make you a bad fit for an IS roll. I work with many managers who would describe themselves as introverts and they are excellent. In a management role you will meet new people, but eventually you may find you are working with the same people most of the time. Another thing I can say is the idea that you can do CS and be a programmer and not have to talk to people is a complete myth. You will have to be social in pretty much every roll you do. Trust me on this, even as an introvert, you may come to find you really enjoy working with the people you meet in your career.
@@MarkEndsley Hey mark, after four months here i am finishing my first year, I wanted to ask about your opinion, if im really hooked into CS atm and i never see myself in a management role, but more of software development kind of roles, do you think its wise to stop my degree and start cs ? Or do you think i can make it there with my degree?
@@AaAaAaA-mm7cc That is such a hard question, because I had the same struggle with IT, but IS is further towards management... If you really like CS, and you are only in your first year (I was much further) I would consider going CS. Look at IT as well if your university offers it. You may escape some prereqs and it is more technical. Figure out how far it sets you back and weigh that with how you feel about it.
@@MarkEndsley I'm not sure how far IS engineering here is to management, if we learn: python, python libraries and using them for graphs and more stuff, java OOP and a little of parallel programming concepts etc.., computer systems (binary and assembly), C, operating systems, and in the future i will have data structures and algorithms and databases. I have also alot of industrial engineering and management courses as you said, but yeah in the ending years ill have less and less programming courses, but I wanna know if Im more towards the IT side or the IS side that you explained in the video, because I see that I do learn lots of programming (still much less than cs though).
Depends on the kind of Apps. Honestly, I did some Android dev when I was in college as IT, and I know CS majors that also did. If you want to go straight app development I would go CS, but IT can work too.
They all can if you take that route in said degree or get some experience. But they would qualify you in different areas of security, whether that be more technical or policy oriented.
Hi, I am currently deciding between getting bs information systems vs bs information technology. Which would be the most profitable and better salary/opportunity wise in the future?
Honestly it really depends on the career path you take. IS tends to be more managerial (but not always), where IT tends to be more technical (not always). A developer I work alongside has an IS degree, so you really will need to look at the different career path and use that to decide what you want, then pick the degree that better suits it. Managers are said to make more in the long run, but it is super dependent on the specific path you choose.
You most certainly can if you have the skills needed for those developer roles. It may not be the best route, dev roles tend to go to the more technical side, but generally a degree + the skills needed in particular programming languages will be more than enough. If you don't live in the US currently that will be a different hurdle.
@@MarkEndsley mark iam planning to do masters in information systems this fall (2021) in university of maryland baltimore county. After completing masters I want to know about job opportunities in software field.
Hello my program is called “computing information systems” we are gonna be doing programming like java and stuff. Do you think Computing information systems is the same as how you described IS?
I think that would be about the best thing you could do for an it career. Be sure to check with your school to ensure they will allow you to do that. My school had restrictions on that type of thing.
@@MarkEndsley the university I'm going to enroll in allows it, currently I'm admitted for a double major in computer science and mathematical statistics but I've been thinking of changing and double major with informatics instead.
One is enough tbh. Just upskill on your free time/vacation or set an hour for a day for it. No point for double major. CS has Statistics Math but not as much as Statistics major but it is still Math heavy. Statistics has software/development courses but not as heavy as CS. Statistics/Applied Math Graduates can also work in softwares and development, with Python, SQL and Kaggle skills along with your Math Major you can make loads of money. Even a self taught one with no degree can be one. Its all about the skills afterall. CS Graduates can also be a statistician and works on Data Science. They're basically relative. With Information Systems it's basically a combination of IT, Business, little bit of CS and little bit of Statistics. But... The programming and software classes there are nowhere near CS. The Mathematics in Information Systems is nowhere near CS and The Mathermatics in Information Systems is definitely definitely NOWHERE near Statistics/Applied Math/Math Major. To add Information Systems has networking class, business class and troubleshooting/maintenance courses. You better just keep improving on other areas. By going double major you'll be spending lots of time and money. Im an Information Systems Major. My experience are SysAdmin, Web Dev, Security and now an IT Consultant. People in CS and Statistics really specialized on what they do. IT stuff can easily be picked up by a Mathematics Graduate and a CS Graduate. But IT/IS person picking up Statistics/CS is unlikely and very rare. Save yourself time and money. @@takudzwanashewaltermanhema3294
Yes, and you can become a software developer with no degree at all. CS degrees tend to have an easier time finding Software dev jobs, but any of these degree holders can land that job if they've learned the skills. I would add that you still need the skills with a CS degree.
I'm hearing impaired. I have a graduation degree Bachelor of business in information system ( batch of 2016-2020). Job career in IS Graduation It is good in computer to make strong profile. Can I still get into my job as a data entry operator at Information technology board government of Pakistan? The appointment will be made to the first data entry Job process.
I am pursuing Bsc IT degree.. well I love programming but maths is not good and in cs degree uni syllabus gives lot of stress .. I want to be entrepreneur in cybersecurity do I need master cs degree ...
@@eyesoffloraandfauna8728 I don't know much about entrepreneurship but for cyber security you should focus that as much as you can in your IT degree. Join a club if you can, and build the basic skills up too. You need to know the basics well to do well in cyber security
What’s the difference between (information system)& (accounting information system)?? In my university they call it accounting information system! Im really confused and disappointed! Cz i don’t like accounting!
So, it doesn't look like this is a very commonly offered degree. If you don't like accounting it probably isn't for you, but you should consult the University you are looking at taking it with. Accounting information systems in real life refers to specialized systems that are mainly used for financials. However, a lot of degrees seem to offer this as a subset of accounting and not the other way around.
The one I'm doing in Information Systems Engineering could be a good match. Aside from that anything with an emphasis on Software Engineering would be good. It is important in Devops to be familiar with Software Development practices.
hello, is Information Technology same as Information Science? There are several universities that offered CS & Information Science programs instead of CS & IT. I’m a bit confused tbh
Information Science is a bit more focused on the science around data itself. I'm not super knowledgeable about that degree, but it seems to be a bit more technical and theoretical at the same time. Kind of like Computer Science with a stronger focus on data.
I'm not nearly as familiar with this degree as some of the other tech degrees. It seems to be like Information Technology with more of a focus on the data science side. It not being nearly as common (I've never met anyone with the degree in my career) could hinder it when it comes to finding jobs. Still, it looks like a valid route to get into many of the IT careers I talk about.
IT sucks so much if you can't pass certification exams left and right, you end up stuck doing entry level tech support and get sucked into on call bullshit...
I think that is everyone's worst nightmare. The thing is though, I know a lot of people who came out of the other side of that and are doing well today
It appears to be more of a business degree than a tech degree. It would probably be better than a normal business degree if you want to get into management in the IT space, but I really can't say how good it is in general.
@@MarkEndsley I'm in computer science right now but im not enjoying it one bit, however i still want to get into some type of technology related career. Not sure what to do
@@tazwaaralam5824 I can tell you if you really hate it you won't enjoy doing it for a living, it may be worth trying some classes in the business degree.
@@MarkEndsley Kind of conflicted because when i make my own projects i enjoy it, but on exams/midterms when they ask me to do random questions on the spot i extremely hate it. maybe i can just learn coding on the side and pursuing a degree that i actually enjoy
@@tazwaaralam5824 nobody likes the exams, if you like the subject itself it could be worth sticking with. I'm the end you have to make the decision. I would see if any of the courses from the business degree qualify as electives and try one.
In these days no matter what your major is , the more important your skills your made projects your practiular things your soft skills and many things etc...
Yup, having the degree matters, and having it be related to your field is helpful (but not always necessary). What is way more important though is just being able to do what they are hiring you to do.
I did Computer Science and I regret it. There was no practical use of most stuff i learnt. Do IT or IS first. Then go into CS to better your understanding. Don't start with CS
Terrible advice. Definitely start with cs first. It's the more defficult degree. IT and IS is very easy to learn
Started with CS dude HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I did IT nw am wondering which Masters I should go with IS or CS
I’ve searched extensively for straightforward explanations on differences between IT and Computers Science and thank you for being the best Right to the point, clear, and easy to understand
I second this
yes, and without trying to sell anything.
Very helpful video! I’ve been looking for this info for so long and I finally found it. Thank you
very interesting information. I was sure that my path was a computer science degree. It turns out it might not be the best choice. Thanks...I'll think about it
From a UK perspective I did business computing ,we had to write a dissertation at the end which is a normal with regards to British degrees, The first couple of years specialised in network security then after that I did business computing which was quite good actually… And the reason why you have to do quite a big piece of research at the end it’s because it’s teaching you to become a researcher which is useful if moving onto a Masters or PhD.
Interesting Edward, I have had to do quite a bit of research in my Masters so that makes sense.
Which university in UK did you choose to study Business Computing?
@@rhythm0212 I did mine in the United Kingdom? Hope that helps.
Did the first two years at the open University and the final year at Salford university sorry didn’t read your response correctly
Thank you so much!!! I have been looking for a video like this for a long time but nobody explained it properly..
I'm happy to help! I had so much trouble with this question in the past. If this video helped someone I think I will sleep well tonight.
Ive searched for a straight forward video to help me understand. I start my MIS this fall. Thank you!
Happy to Help. I'm doing a Masters in Information Systems Engineering. So far I can say it is awesome
How did it go😊
Thank you, you definitely earned my like! I appreciate all of the info! :)
Thanks for liking the video!
Currently in my 2nd year of BSIT, I plan to focus on networking because advanced maths and programming just seems hard for me, plus I've always been more fascinated into the hardware aspect of computers. Do you think I could still easily find a job just retaining my full knowledge on networking and basic python (for networking) and maybe DBMS stuffs and maybe retaining just the most basic knowledge and syntax on C and C++??
I think that would set you up well. a Network+ Certification would probably go along well with that.
This was a good video, bro.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Mark, thank you for this video! I'm majoring in Mechanical Engineering and minoring in CS. I enjoy computers and believe the CS minor on my resume would give me extra favor to any future employers. However, I'm not even halfway through the CS minor and I'm not enjoying the heavy coding that is involved with CS at all.. I am considering changing my minor to IT instead. So my questions is, do you think an IT minor on my resume is just as beneficial as a CS minor would be? BTW, I just saw in a previous video that you went to UCF. That's where I'm going!
Go Knights! With a Mechanical Major I'm tempted to say IT could potentially even be a better minor. I'm trying to picture where you are thinking on going with these major/minor combos. Either way I'm not thinking it will make a whole ton of difference. As an ME I tend to think having either one would just prove you will be adept at using the systems you use as an ME (which is a good thing). If you end up in Szumlanski's class tell him I said Hi.
@@MarkEndsley Go Knights! So my primary motivation for the minor is to simply have extra qualifications for employers; and like you said, it will prove my adaptability. Haha I will! I have one more question if you don't mind answering. So the classes need for an IT minor at UCF are Intro to C (which I already have taken), Database Concepts, Computer Architecture Concepts, Operating System Concepts, and Fundamentals of Information Technology. Do you think these classes have less coding involved when compared to classes such as Intro to C or Object Oriented Programing?
Yeah man, that is a lot
I got two questions, sorry if this is too long 🙏🏾:
1.) In my university, The CIS (Computer Information Systems) degree has four concentrations (Business Analytics, Cybersecurity, Network/Management, and Software Development) Choosing one will require you to take a few more high leveled CIS classes unique to that concentration, which are about 5-6 extra classes. There is also a fifth option to select No Concentration, which means less classes, but you have to choose three high level CIS classes from any of the four concentrations.
Do you think it’s worth selecting a concentration or just stick with no concentration? I’m the kind of person who constantly changes his mind, I’m shifting between either Analytics or Cybersecurity, and I can only choose one. Is it still possible to find the same jobs with no concentration required?
2.) Do you know the difference between a BBA (Bachelor Of Business Administration) and a BS (Bachelor Of Science)? The CIS degree here has two versions, BBA CIS and BS CIS. Each one looks the same to me in terms of classes, and has the same concentrations as mentioned above. Does the choice even matter?
1) If there is a concentration that you like, then I'd go with that. If not leave it blank. Try to find something you can focus on your resume though. 2) BS is generally considered better for more technical people, but I don't know how much of a difference it actually makes compared to the skills you have.
@@MarkEndsleyHello Mark, I’m in a similar boat to the poster above. I’m enrolled in IT BS degree at SNHU… they tell us we can have a concentration in cybersecurity, software development, data analytics, or IT management. We can also bypass a concentration… but will have to take other IT elective courses. I’m not really sure where I would like to go, I would like to one day become a system admin or network engineer. On the one hand I think maybe learning about security could help at least understanding from that angle. It’s crazy because all of these things are interesting.
thank you so much. i've been searching about this so much.
You are welcome!
Hey Mark, thank you for this video! I had a question however. I’m going into my first freshman year and am going to major in business administration with a focus in operations/ business analytics and a minor in computer information technology. Could all these areas combined land me a manager position for an IT company or really in any very good paying tech job with a managerial requirement. My university doesn’t offer an MIS degree and I didn’t want to go straight into CS so I figured that’s what’s best, unless you think combining certain other areas would benefit more! Thank you
So the short answer is yes you can do that, but at many organizations you will need more qualifications than just the degree to land a management role out of the gate. That being said, in a start up you can be a manager with almost any experience if you have the desire.
Hey great insight, left a like and subscribed. I have an associates degree mostly comprised of businesses courses such as accounting/economics. My math is pretty poor but I want to finish a BS in CS, IST, or something similar. I have about a semester before I start but have no experience w coding. Any recommendations on a free course to help jumpstart me before I start school? I also have a MacBook Air so I would be bound to iOS
Thanks for subscribing! There is a website called repl.it that I suggest for starting out with coding. I also have some old C programming tutorials out there
I was looking forward to this video! Thanks Mark
Sure thing, I love doing this stuff
What do you think/say about the CS majors who talk down to IT majors? I talked to two redditor's and they both said that IT people are failed CS people and claimed that IT degrees are useless and people are only in IT because they didn't want to tough it out in CS. I said there was so many factors involved and it wasn't all cut and dry and they called me naively unrealistic. They said IT programs are easy and you don't have to study....I responded by saying it depends on the curriculum and the person. What is your response to those types of people?
Anyone that puts that much emphasis on the specific degree doesn't know what they are talking about. The skills you have are what pay the bills, a degree just gets your foot in the door and exposes you to said skills. IT degrees are certainly not useless, as I'm doing very well after getting mine. I had to study plenty hard in my IT degree. My response would basically be to not waste too much time arguing with them. I just did a video on this you may want to check it out.
I have a quick question and want some opinions on it, I currently major in CIT in my university but I absolutely hate programming, I can't stand doing it and I struggled with the "weed out courses" such as OOP and Data Structures and Algorithms. If I change my major to Information Systems, and while doing my degree I get certifications like Network+, Security+ CompTIA etc etc, would I have a good chance in getting into the compliance/governance fields of Cyber security?
I’m stuck on the “Design” part of IS. What type of design. Graduating with an Associates in Visual Design. My goal is not really graphic design. I’m really into product design. Although universities (at least in Virginia) haven’t caught up to the times yet with a specific degree in Product Design. I’m a strong illustrator. With my research I’ve discovered IS is good for product design because most of Product design is ideation and concepts of products. I want to do the physical products. There is industrial design but I don’t know I want to do 4 year as I am pushing 30 years old. It would probably make the most sense but I’ll be almost 35 before I’m done with school. Which idk about.
Trust me, it's fine. I graduated when I was around 29. Nobody cares anymore, as long as you still look relatively young (which you do in your profile picture) you'll be fine.
You the best
Wow thank you very much this video really explain on what i should major in,im not at the best at maths but i do know how to solve intermediate level problem,I’ve seen the algorithm,data structures,discrete maths,calculus etc those are high level maths which i can get into it so i think i should choose IT because since it’s in the middle from those 2 and i also do enjoy programming and doing small type of management/business.
But im concern what type of maths do IT learn?
In the normal mathematics, I went up to Trig, after that you do Discrete mathematics and most of the computer science subjects (Computer Science, Object Oriented Programming) I think I have a video out there where I go through all of it.
I did IT nw am wondering which Masters I should go with IS or CS
Amazing vid
Thanks, I've been wanting to do this one for a long time
Cobol is huge in banking (as well as 4tran)
wow thanks!
This video helped me a lot !
Glad it helped!
Hi could I ask to you. I'm from Bachelor Degree Electronics Engineering that used to hands on with C++ program. Now, I join free-courses Data Science with Python and I love that bcs I think it is easier than C++ and I like The Data Visualization through Histogram, Plot, Scatter, etc. I want to pursue my Master Degree, but in my country Master Degree of Data Science is not available. There are only Master Degree in Information Technology and Computer Science. What should I choose?
This is a very hard question to answer. Information Technology might be better for getting jobs at this point, since you already have a very technical bachelors. Computer science might be more fun for you, because of what you are interested in. I'd say IT is more practical, CS is more fun. And don't worry too much, with either one you should be set to find a job. Disclaimer: I don't know what country you are in, so I might not be the best person to ask for advice if you are applying locally.
hello if i wanna continue cybersecurity in masters (people told me cybersecurity does not have degree in bachelor) should i do cs or IT or both works if i wnna continue cyber
does a person who takes IT can major in software development?
I want to go into the IS, (cause i kinda suck at math and im into both business and tech) ...What are your thoughts on getting an IT degree specializing in IS ? I dont know anything about programming but i know a lot about the business and management side .. do you think i should just go for a IS degree or do the IT with a specialization in IS degree?(For someone like me)
You will likely have to program with an IT degree, if you are willing to learn it (which I would recommend) then I'd say IT is a great path to go for management. Knowing technical stuff gives you an edge when trying to first get into management. If you don't want to touch programming then go IS. Also if you are ok with doing programming in school, either way would be valid. It really depends on which skills you think you already have, and which you are looking to build (management vs. technical). Then combine that with what you are ok doing in school.
@@MarkEndsley Thank you for the advice. I'll consider it along side my plans. I will build my technical side and add on to the management side. I did start learning programming and its not so hard (yet). So I'll try what i can on either side of Management and Tech
Hey Mark,
I am about to graduate from a community college with an IT major. But besides IT, I'm very intrigued about business side of things and eventually I would love to be in a project management position. While doing IT in a programming concentration, I really enjoyed Database Management class. I obviously would love to transfer to a Different University and finish my bachelors. What would you recommend out of these 3 that I should take. (Also, I didn't rly liked the programming courses especially taking it online.)
IS sounds like the best thing for you. It tends to have the least programming and be the most management focused.
@@MarkEndsley Great! thank you!
@@faisalanwar6556 in IT do you have to a lot of programming?
@@Obito_17-52 well IT is very broad. There are obviously different concentration you can take. I myself Took programming. But, there are concentration such as cybersecurity, networking where not a lot of programming required.
@@faisalanwar6556 oh ok so cybersecurity is more networking?
I’m currently in AP Comp Sci A as a senior in highschool. I’m very torn between IS and CS. I’m doing ok in the class and I do enjoy programming to some extent. I do enjoy programming but I’ve had some very difficult topics in my class so I’m a bit worried at how difficult this could get. My only concern with IS is that there isn’t enough programming. I’m starting to think that IT might me a good blend. Do you have any thoughts on this? I’m not sure if I should just go all out on computer science or go with IT.
If you like programming I would recommend IT or CS. To choose between the two I would recommend looking closely at the individual IT program (some are more technical than others), and think about how you feel with higher level math.
What do you think about a Bachelors in Information Technology with an emphasis in networking and a minor in cyber security? Is it worth it?
The Bachelors in IT with an emphasis on Cyber Security is what I did and that alone was worth it. I'd recommend using your time in school to get yourself an internship, especially if you can find one that is in networking or close to it. Yes, it is worth it.
Hey there, Ill be honest I am on my third major change and I am considering Information Security because most of my credits will transfer over. However, I am concerned in the long run it would look bad if I apply to jobs for Computer programming vs someone with a CS degree. Should I not worry and just do the IS degree because I can complete it faster or do u recommend just doing the CS degree.
If you are looking to be a programmer I wouldn't recommend switching to IS unless you are ok with it being harder to find a job. You can with an IS degree but it will be harder.
What is the better as a salary and job
Information technology and computer system information , information technology game developers, I aplied for them qll but don’t know what is better and hardest at the same time
I don’t like coding,programming
What I mean by programming I mean Like a paython and other
But really skepical about them can u giving me advice
I have only these days to decide
Hi Mark. I have a DLIS certificate and right now I'm pursuing my Bachelor of Information and knowledge Management ( knowledge Management) 3rd year.
I would also like to do my masters... Maybe in data science. I'm not sure.. What would you recommend I do for my masters? Thank you
That really depends a lot on you. I'm doing Information Systems Engineering and it's not bad. One thing thing I found is that Master's programs can vary even more than Bachelors.
What about if you want to be on the security side if things?
Security is it's own beast, and it is a new one. I think any of these degrees could be the best depending on the type of security. Security goes all the way from analyzing NIST documents to code reviews. The more technical you want to be, the more I'd gravitate to CS, the less I'd gravitate to IS. Network stuff IT is a great fit. There is more effort to be put into getting into security itself than choosing one of these degrees though.
Hi, i applied for a CS program but was too late. The university made me an offer for IT program.
Do you think it's a good alternative?
It worked out very well for me.
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You mentioned that you are working as a developer, but your degree is in IT. Is that common? I've seen programs for IT with concentrations in app development, but a lot of people are saying that CS is for developers and IT isn't. What's the real deal?
I have a business degree and I want to move into SWD/SWE, but to get a CS degree I basically have to redo all of undergrad, since most MS programs require a BS in CS. Can an IT degree get me where I want to go?
I'm a developer in an IT department, and that is not uncommon with an IT degree. CS degree also works great as well. If all you want to do is be a developer I would say CS could be a better choice, but you can do it with an IT degree as well. Skills are what matter.
Hi. Thanks for this video. Because of this distinction, I have decided to apply to JHU for the Information Systems Engineering course. After having seen the curriculum, I might be a right fit. However, I don’t have a STEM undergrad background. I am a self-taught Junior Dev who went to Bootcamp. Do you think I might have a chance to get into the program?
I'm in that program now. It is hard for me to say how hard it is to get in because I just got in on my first try. You should be well equipped for the curriculum, it isn't as technical as a dev job. best of luck
Thanks for the heads up.
Hey I’m currently taking a computer information systems class, and majoring in CIS overall. It seems like a lot of data and analytics, and business. The thing is, it doesn’t really interest me as much as something like IT would. Growing up I was always the go to guy for my family to fix technology, it was nothing major but still. I was even able to fix a laptop a couple years ago, it had a black screen and would not boot, and now it works fine. So I was going to ask, should I get certificates in IT, or should I stay and get my associates in CIS? Can I still get a decent entry level IT job with a CIS associates degree? Honestly I don’t mind making 50k a year, I’m not money hungry to the point where I want to make 100k a year so idk if I want to pursue my bachelors if I get the associates. Any advice would be great, thanks!
Hey, I’m going to answer your question 100% based off what I think and what I’ve witnessed/seen in the industry...
First off, a degree is worth more to jobs than certifications. Certs are just an added bonus. (Thats if you don’t have any previous work in the industry). That being said, if you’re going for basic IT jobs then there’s 2 good and basic certs to get, IT fundamentals and CompTia A+. Both of those could definitely get you a job without a degree. But it would look REALLY good if you got the Associates plus the 2 certs that I’ve mentioned.
@@skylarmasson6530 thank you, I think I will get my associates and some certs like you said, my associates in CIS could potentially get me a higher role, maybe like an IT manager but idk because it’s an associates and not a bachelors
@@kingdoge69 I started at Community College. Got my CIS associates. Its a way better start than many others with no degree. Thats forsure.
@@skylarmasson6530 that’s also what I’m doing, I’m at community college since it’s cheaper. And that’s true, do you have your bachelors in CIS? And what career did you end up getting? Sorry for the questions, but I don’t know many people majoring in CIS
@@kingdoge69 Im continuing my education for my bachelors currently.
Great explanation. Hands down
Thanks!
Can you tell me the difference between computing systems and information systems undergraduate degrees
I've never heard of a Computing Systems degree. If I had to guess it would be similar to IS, but I can't be sure.
But how much does someone with a bachelors in Information technology make a year?
My current plan is BIT+Minor in Stats
That can be a pretty good combination
IT is a good degree right? or CS stronger and better?
I disliked computer science because of the “theory” stuff. It just seemed boring. The programming classes were okay. I would say IT which I switched to was more hands on. The class included labs and seemed more technical which I prefer. It has a more practical use compared to learning about math theories. The math wasn’t terrible but I feel computer science should be more related to programming and learning the practical languages. Having either degree though won’t get you a job in themselves. You need to study, use what you learn and make something. Both degrees also despite being in IT world have different career paths. With CS you should be learning programming and with IT you need to learn support and learn about hard ware, how to help an end user use a program and infrastructure. They are different careers and things within the IT world.
Man this resolved my problem on which degree I should follow
Awesome! What path did you choose?
@@MarkEndsley my school had IT Web Tech so I chose that one
@@zacort That sounds like it could be a good subset, it is pretty much what I do now. Web based technologies are used a lot in IT.
Do you love what your doing? And do you travel (assuming you work remote)
I very much like what I do. I work Hybrid, meaning I'm mostly remote but come in sometimes. I don't travel much except for tech conferences which I really enjoy.
Hi! I really loved this video since I’ve been considering whether to go CS or IT… I’m considering going cybersecurity (but there’s no cybersecurity specific course where I am) and my dream is to become a hacker,, which do you suggest? Or game development, which course would be better? Thank you in advance if you see this 😁
Game Dev is hell, don't do it unless you REALLY want it. Cybersecurity is more paperwork & policy than you think, but it is a good an exciting career today. If you want to be a hacker, you pretty much just have to be a hacker, no college can (or will) teach you that. Honestly either route can get you in. Focus on what you love.
@@MarkEndsley Ooooh, I see. Thank you so much for your insights!! :D
@@MarkEndsley do I have to get a masters for cyber security?
@uypat Look into WGU(Western Governance University) if you want to get a good degree in Cyber with some decent career certs.
In my university they call it Information Systems and Technology with a emphasis on cyber security. Would that be the same as information systems?
I can't be sure without checking, but honestly the name of the degree could matter more to employers. Downside is it is obscure, upside is that it hits all the buzzwords
I won a 27k scholarship for Uni of Oregon (#1 school in my state) but the only major is CIS (comp. information science) But I want to major in CS which is a different school. What should I do? My goal for life is to be a Backend Software Engineer. What should I do? I don't have a scholarship for the school with the CS major. University Of Oregon vs Oregon State Uni . Can you give me feedback please mark.
That's a tough one, free money is hard to turn down. You need to talk with the right people, be honest about what you want and see what the possibilities are. If you really are locked into CIS, you could make that work for the job you want to do. You'll just need to build some of the skills yourself. Also don't be too sure about you future aspirations, you'll learn a lot more in college than skills. You may learn things about the industry and the world that change what you want to do going forward. Whatever you do, keep moving forward, make the best decisions you can, and stay positive!
I major in IS and minor in business and data science like machine learning. What would be a good paying job?
Business Analyst, but honestly you can do a lot with that skillset.
Thank you
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Which degree do you think is more marketable to employers?
That is a really hard one. I tend to think the more technical the degree the more marketable but that isn't always the case. In any case, your skills will more decide your marketability than your degree will.
10:38 Information System focuses in management
I'm about to finish my associates in CIS next year, are there any jobs that you could recommend for recent graduates? I appreciate your knowledge and experience.
Unfortunately I'm not really in the job space. Get an internship if you still have time! aside from that search for words like "Junior" when searching jobs.
@@MarkEndsley thanks so much for your words of wisdom, I will definitely be in the lookout for any opportunities.
I'm going to do a bcom with a majors in CIS
Thank you. I plan on majoring in finance with a minor in MIS. Do you recommend double majoring instead of minoring in MIS? Curious of your opinion.
It really depends on how set you are on being on the technology side of things. a Major in MIS can put you on the management side of technology where finance generally doesn't. A minor wouldn't help as much as a major. This also depends on how much time you are willing to spend.
Thank you for this informational vid sir!. I'm already on my 12th grade now and I'm thinking of getting BSIS for college. The thing is, I don't have any background or knowledge regarding to this field, will I do fine in college if I take is? Am I too late to learn about it?. I'd be glad if you will answer this sir. Thank you very much!!!!!
Bachelors degrees are made for people that don't really know anything going in. Having a head start helps but should not be necessary.
@@MarkEndsley thank you!!!
Hi İ am studying at Bilkent University in Turkey, My department is CTİS, İnformation systems, and technologies, it is üritten like that, what is your opinion about my department, does it have any requirements for working by the way I started new
I'm very far from qualified to give an opinion on your department. I know Turkey is a respected country for education, and otherwise ,but that is about as far as I can go.
Thank you very much! I'll be resuming to a university to study masters in information systems engineering by January
Excellent to hear, I wish you luck!
Which uni
@@MarkEndsley thank you
My Uni requires me to minor in business while majoring IT. I also have 1 or 2 engineering classes. Idk why they’d make me minor in business because that’s just ISM.
I don't really know either, seems like your minor should be your choice. Business skills can be helpful in some IT positions though.
hello is it okay to pursue CS even thought my strand is ICT and is it okay even if im not that good in math
Just as long as you understand you will need to get through the math, and are ok with that.
Hello Mark, I'm an information systems engineering student, just finished my first semester, I have done courses in basic math atm and intro to computer science in python and C, next semester I have data analysis course and math and more programming courses in java and C and stuff like operating systems. And just like you mentioned in the more advanced years I have project management and even psychology courses and financial management. Now what I wanted to ask, as an introvert and shy person myself Im not sure if I will be able to really enjoy IS work as you explained it's more of management type of work. Do you think I should switch to cs even if it might take to redo all the courses? Or in any degree I would need to work on my personality anyway and if Im enjoying the courses I should stick to information systems?
Great question, first off, don't think being an introvert would make you a bad fit for an IS roll. I work with many managers who would describe themselves as introverts and they are excellent. In a management role you will meet new people, but eventually you may find you are working with the same people most of the time. Another thing I can say is the idea that you can do CS and be a programmer and not have to talk to people is a complete myth. You will have to be social in pretty much every roll you do. Trust me on this, even as an introvert, you may come to find you really enjoy working with the people you meet in your career.
@@MarkEndsley I really appreciate the answer, This clears my fear of struggling in work in future, thanks alot!
@@MarkEndsley Hey mark, after four months here i am finishing my first year, I wanted to ask about your opinion, if im really hooked into CS atm and i never see myself in a management role, but more of software development kind of roles, do you think its wise to stop my degree and start cs ? Or do you think i can make it there with my degree?
@@AaAaAaA-mm7cc That is such a hard question, because I had the same struggle with IT, but IS is further towards management... If you really like CS, and you are only in your first year (I was much further) I would consider going CS. Look at IT as well if your university offers it. You may escape some prereqs and it is more technical. Figure out how far it sets you back and weigh that with how you feel about it.
@@MarkEndsley I'm not sure how far IS engineering here is to management, if we learn: python, python libraries and using them for graphs and more stuff, java OOP and a little of parallel programming concepts etc.., computer systems (binary and assembly), C, operating systems, and in the future i will have data structures and algorithms and databases.
I have also alot of industrial engineering and management courses as you said, but yeah in the ending years ill have less and less programming courses, but I wanna know if Im more towards the IT side or the IS side that you explained in the video, because I see that I do learn lots of programming (still much less than cs though).
Bro , i have passed +2 from management with computer as my major , which degree will be better cybersecurity or information system management?
That really depends on what you want to do.
Currently an IT major and I have to say I wish I did CS
I actually felt the same way as an IT major sometimes, but then I got a great job!
Hello I am interested more on the side of creating apps and websites would that land more on computer science or IT?
Depends on the kind of Apps. Honestly, I did some Android dev when I was in college as IT, and I know CS majors that also did. If you want to go straight app development I would go CS, but IT can work too.
@@MarkEndsley Thank You
@@MarkEndsley What is applied computing compared to computer science and information technology
Can we go for masters in computer science/artificial intelligence/data science/cyber security if we do a Bachelors in Information systems?
Yes, but there may be prerequisites to be filled, of course this can also happen even if you have a CS bachelor's
Sounds like IS is the way for me
which one of them works with cyber security
They all can if you take that route in said degree or get some experience. But they would qualify you in different areas of security, whether that be more technical or policy oriented.
12:08 if you want more in Software Development or codes, maths and inner working of the computer please go to Computer Science
What is information systems technology ?
Hi,
I am currently deciding between getting bs information systems vs bs information technology. Which would be the most profitable and better salary/opportunity wise in the future?
Honestly it really depends on the career path you take. IS tends to be more managerial (but not always), where IT tends to be more technical (not always). A developer I work alongside has an IS degree, so you really will need to look at the different career path and use that to decide what you want, then pick the degree that better suits it. Managers are said to make more in the long run, but it is super dependent on the specific path you choose.
Hey mark can i can get a software job by doing masters in information systems.
Like developer roles in usa.
You most certainly can if you have the skills needed for those developer roles. It may not be the best route, dev roles tend to go to the more technical side, but generally a degree + the skills needed in particular programming languages will be more than enough. If you don't live in the US currently that will be a different hurdle.
@@MarkEndsley mark iam planning to do masters in information systems this fall (2021) in university of maryland baltimore county. After completing masters
I want to know about job opportunities in software field.
Hello my program is called “computing information systems” we are gonna be doing programming like java and stuff. Do you think Computing information systems is the same as how you described IS?
If I had to guess, I would say it is basically IS, but review the classes yourself to know for sure.
Hello
Can u giving me advice ,I will enrol witj same program but not sure about it?
Is a double major in computer science and informatics(information systems) good? And what career opportunities can you get with that degree?
I think that would be about the best thing you could do for an it career. Be sure to check with your school to ensure they will allow you to do that. My school had restrictions on that type of thing.
@@MarkEndsley the university I'm going to enroll in allows it, currently I'm admitted for a double major in computer science and mathematical statistics but I've been thinking of changing and double major with informatics instead.
@@takudzwanashewaltermanhema3294 awesome stuff, I wish you luck
One is enough tbh. Just upskill on your free time/vacation or set an hour for a day for it. No point for double major. CS has Statistics Math but not as much as Statistics major but it is still Math heavy. Statistics has software/development courses but not as heavy as CS. Statistics/Applied Math Graduates can also work in softwares and development, with Python, SQL and Kaggle skills along with your Math Major you can make loads of money. Even a self taught one with no degree can be one. Its all about the skills afterall. CS Graduates can also be a statistician and works on Data Science. They're basically relative.
With Information Systems it's basically a combination of IT, Business, little bit of CS and little bit of Statistics. But... The programming and software classes there are nowhere near CS. The Mathematics in Information Systems is nowhere near CS and The Mathermatics in Information Systems is definitely definitely NOWHERE near Statistics/Applied Math/Math Major. To add Information Systems has networking class, business class and troubleshooting/maintenance courses. You better just keep improving on other areas.
By going double major you'll be spending lots of time and money.
Im an Information Systems Major. My experience are SysAdmin, Web Dev, Security and now an IT Consultant. People in CS and Statistics really specialized on what they do.
IT stuff can easily be picked up by a Mathematics Graduate and a CS Graduate. But IT/IS person picking up Statistics/CS is unlikely and very rare. Save yourself time and money. @@takudzwanashewaltermanhema3294
can you become a software developer with either one of these degrees?
Yes, and you can become a software developer with no degree at all.
CS degrees tend to have an easier time finding Software dev jobs, but any of these degree holders can land that job if they've learned the skills.
I would add that you still need the skills with a CS degree.
Best video on this topic❤👍
Glad to hear that. It is a difficult subject considering how different the degrees can be between Universities.
im an information systems student, can i work as a software developer ?
Yes, I know I do. The degree may suit you to be in more IT/automation areas
I'm hearing impaired. I have a graduation degree Bachelor of business in information system ( batch of 2016-2020). Job career in IS Graduation It is good in computer to make strong profile. Can I still get into my job as a data entry operator at Information technology board government of Pakistan? The appointment will be made to the first data entry Job process.
I certainly can't tell you whether you will get a particular job or not, but I wish you luck
@@MarkEndsley ok thank you. I get job oppurtunity.
I am pursuing Bsc IT degree.. well I love programming but maths is not good and in cs degree uni syllabus gives lot of stress ..
I want to be entrepreneur in cybersecurity do I need master cs degree ...
You don't need a CS degree, and honestly CS teaches you nothing about entrepreneurship.
@@MarkEndsley thanks any suggestions?
@@eyesoffloraandfauna8728 I don't know much about entrepreneurship but for cyber security you should focus that as much as you can in your IT degree. Join a club if you can, and build the basic skills up too. You need to know the basics well to do well in cyber security
What’s the difference between (information system)& (accounting information system)?? In my university they call it accounting information system! Im really confused and disappointed! Cz i don’t like accounting!
So, it doesn't look like this is a very commonly offered degree. If you don't like accounting it probably isn't for you, but you should consult the University you are looking at taking it with. Accounting information systems in real life refers to specialized systems that are mainly used for financials. However, a lot of degrees seem to offer this as a subset of accounting and not the other way around.
Is CIS the same as IS, but it just focuses on a topic, such as Cybersecurity, a lot more in depth?
From my understanding CIS is the same as IS, but every university is different with every degree, so look into the individual program
@@MarkEndsley ok thanks
Hey i want be a devOps engineer
Which course is best for me in master's???
The one I'm doing in Information Systems Engineering could be a good match. Aside from that anything with an emphasis on Software Engineering would be good. It is important in Devops to be familiar with Software Development practices.
11:20 managemen System for IS
Very nice video man and try to get some sleep you look very tired
In information Security your learning python to write scripts and programs to hack lol .. mostly in python ..
Python is great if you can get past the indentation thing.
hello, is Information Technology same as Information Science? There are several universities that offered CS & Information Science programs instead of CS & IT. I’m a bit confused tbh
Information Science is a bit more focused on the science around data itself. I'm not super knowledgeable about that degree, but it seems to be a bit more technical and theoretical at the same time. Kind of like Computer Science with a stronger focus on data.
Hi, what about "Information Sciences" ?
I'm not nearly as familiar with this degree as some of the other tech degrees. It seems to be like Information Technology with more of a focus on the data science side. It not being nearly as common (I've never met anyone with the degree in my career) could hinder it when it comes to finding jobs. Still, it looks like a valid route to get into many of the IT careers I talk about.
@@MarkEndsley Thank you very much 👍
@@OmarAlDoori Happy to help
I failed once and twice on my math subjects 😂
11:28 IT is more Technical as middle ground in Practical Skill chose Information Technology
Is Information Technology the same as Computer Technology?
I had never heard of that degree until now, but looking it up, it looks very similar to an IT degree.
@@MarkEndsley , thank you for replying! :)
IT sucks so much if you can't pass certification exams left and right, you end up stuck doing entry level tech support and get sucked into on call bullshit...
I think that is everyone's worst nightmare. The thing is though, I know a lot of people who came out of the other side of that and are doing well today
Hello, can you make a video on your master's degree?
I certainly will, I'm not yet ready to do an overview, but I may talk about how it's going.
9:50 Infornation Technology in the middle
Can I be and work as cyber security, data technician, and software development with bachelor information technology degree?
Yes, but just like with any degree you should pick up the technical skills associated with those fields.
@@MarkEndsley what about associate science degree IT?
@@olympic-ass-eater maybe, there are people that do these things with no degree so it is certainly possible, just harder
is business technology management good
It appears to be more of a business degree than a tech degree. It would probably be better than a normal business degree if you want to get into management in the IT space, but I really can't say how good it is in general.
@@MarkEndsley I'm in computer science right now but im not enjoying it one bit, however i still want to get into some type of technology related career. Not sure what to do
@@tazwaaralam5824 I can tell you if you really hate it you won't enjoy doing it for a living, it may be worth trying some classes in the business degree.
@@MarkEndsley Kind of conflicted because when i make my own projects i enjoy it, but on exams/midterms when they ask me to do random questions on the spot i extremely hate it. maybe i can just learn coding on the side and pursuing a degree that i actually enjoy
@@tazwaaralam5824 nobody likes the exams, if you like the subject itself it could be worth sticking with. I'm the end you have to make the decision. I would see if any of the courses from the business degree qualify as electives and try one.